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Joshua joshes us 'bout JASON X
Hey folks, Harry here... and ya know... I'm actually pretty jazzed to see a JASON flick.... ol Moriarty liked it and he hates everything he ain't paid to love by Harry Lime... and Lime has no dealings with Jason whatsoever... So hmmmm... could be this is actually decent... or even.... coool? we'll see...
Hey Harry!
Just want to let you know, I saw the Jason X movie on Wednesday too. I felt
compelled to write after I read the comments on the two reviews. Just to
let them and everyone who seemed cynical that, yes, the movie did kick ass.
"How can that be?" people must be asking. A good Jason film is an
oxy-moron. I was not expecting much going in at all. In fact the opening,
where we see Jason chained up and the title card reads "Crystal Lake
Research Facility", I felt we were in big trouble. It looked cheesy and
stupid, had a direct to video feel and I was ready to split.
Now, I was not, as I said earlier, expecting much. Another piece of shit
Jason film with the same old tired formula. But when they opened up the
cryo-unit 400 years later, I felt a little glimmer of hope, but I was
worried this was just going to be Jason in Space ala Hell raiser: Bloodline.
But it is a blast. They where smart enough to inject some new elements
while leaving some of the old, reinventing this tired old war horse. At
times it's Jason meets Aliens, Jason meets the Matrix and Jason meets Star
Trek. On the down side, some of the sets look hokey and some of the
dialogue is god-awful. Par for the course for a Jason film. But it was not
as bad as some of the crap we have seen. Not by a long shot. Overall I came
out feeling like I was not cheated. The two reviews, I believe, were not
plants because they were pretty right on. Most of the people leaving
thought the movie was pretty cool too. Just for the record, a close friend
of mine, who is a Jason fanatic, hated the film. He said the mix of comedy
and horror didn't work at all for him. He said it was not a real Jason
film. "Yeah." I said "It wasn't a real Jason film. A real Jason film would
have sucked ass!" He just wanted more of that rotten Crystal Lake stuff.
Yuchhh!!!
All of you who don't believe it, just you wait and see. When this sucker
comes out next year you write and apologize to us. You will eat your words
when you see all the Jason costumes next Halloween.
One last point. The effects were stunning and the color was stunning.
This was because it was one of the first screenings ever to be done
completely digitally. There was no print of the film. They projected it
from a state of the art quarter-million dollar digital projector. Not a
scratch or a blemish the entire movie. Film may be dead after all.
Joshing Joshua
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I'm hopeful that this is good, although I still love the original Friday flicks, bad as they are. Yep, even the first one with his mom. And that's a certifiable turd.
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FIRST! FIRST! I'M FIRST! I... wait a second, no one gives a shit about this first nonsense. Anyway, I have to admit that I've never liked the Friday the 13th franchise(the original is on my short list for worst film ever) yet somhow I'm intriegued by this new one. If it actually has half the imagination Moriarty says it has, I might actually enjoy this one.
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If I'd had any idea I would end up to be first, I would have yelled FIRST FIRST FIRST too. It's nothing to be ashamed of. Wear your "First" badge with pride! I am!
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All you "FIRST" morons need to get a life. And no I'm not just saying this because I turned out to be second. Hey, shut up veers. Ok, now you're getting me upseat. i won't cry, i won't.......
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The movie will make a little money only because it is a curiosity. The studio does not have the money or the balls to make it a true success wether it deserves it or not. And by the way Harry; for someone who is as anti-gun as you are what about all of the kids who may see your animation ther and want to pick up a gun and start shooting things like it shows there. People should have to have a license to show animated guns like that. It could indirectly get someone killed and that's just irresponsible.
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I am so psyched for this movie! The Friday franchise needs a good movie like this after that awful Jason Goes To Hell. Most of the other ones were awesome. I got a chance to talk to Kane "JASON" Hodder when he was here in Minnesota siging autographs. He said that Jason X is going to be the best one in the series by far. He also told me how he would sit someplace in his Jason costume and pretend to be a prop, and when people would start poking him and saying how real it looked, he would jump up and scare the piss out of them! Gotta love your job. Kane is an awesome guy. He has KILL tatooed inside his lower lip. Kinda scary. Guess they found the right guy for the part!
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Someone dissed F13 #1, while I was in the room and thinks he can get away with it ?
That movie is one of the classics of the stalker genre of the early 80s. It closely follows the trend of the time, has one of the greatest jolt endings of all time AND features Kevin Bacon getting slaughtered onscreen....alone worth the price of admission. If you want to throw shit at one of the franchise, make it part 3. Not a single one of those kids deserved to survive, especially the obnoxious curly haired lardass !High point ? Part 7, the sleeping bag murder...all time high, and Kane's own favorite. Humor in an F13 worries you ? Why ? It worked in part 6.
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I'm jazzed for Jason X and all, but what I'm *really* jazzed for is Friday the 69th Jason XXX, why kill when you can orgy? You're out of your element, yappie.
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Well, maybe this is just nitpicking, but is the title going to be Friday The 13th Part X, as it should be chronologically, or are we losing the whole Friday The 13th moniker, instead naming it Jason 1? Because if they called it Jason 10, people would wonder where Jason 1-9 are (Where was Leonard parts 1 thru 5 anyway??).
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The title will be Jason 'X', as in the letter 'x', not the number ten.
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Okay, let's assume that there is actually something worthwhile in there. That the film is well made and, dare I dream, Entertaining. After the tremendous torrent of bad slasher films, 9 of which are in this franchise, I think I'll withhold my $7.50 out of spite!
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I think it's called Jason X cuz there are no days in space(becuz it is out of any kind of orbit) so technically there can be no Friday the 13th in space!!!!!!
Do i win some kind of prize or sumthin?!?!?!?!!
Even a flaming turd on a stick would be nice.... -
Where do we go next? Further into the future? Or maybe it was all a dream? Yeah, riiiiight. But this franchise can't be quit now - it's 9 plays 1, shite to good-enough by the look of things. Luckily, I've calculated just how Jason can be made to work again. And even better than this time round. Now: who has the sequel rights again....?
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First off, I get P*ssed off when people dog on Friday The 13th movies...They're good clean harmless fun...I admit, I'm skeptical about JASON X(I still have Hellraiser:Bloodline nightmares), but I still look forward to it...
The thing that REALLY pisses me off is that they are STILL in development HELL on FREDDY vs JASON...This should be the MOVIE event of the DECADE(If you don't count Matrix 2&3)...WHY???
Because they can't get a decent script(Last count was 37(?) rejected Scripts)
I WOULD SELL MY ENTIRE Family(The dog too) to be the Writer of FvJ...My strategy? Go back to The ROOTS of both Characters...Matter of fact, here's a small sample of my story(Gotta save the rest in case, God Willing, New Line ever gives me the shot. Believe me, i've been lobbying for years...Maybe with Mike Deluca Gone, they'll let the guard down...Who knows? Anyway, enjoy!!!(Feedback to samwash1@hotmail.com)
WHEN EVILS MEET:Freddy vs Jason
Opening Credits appear over EXTREME close-ups of The Freddy Glove alternating with Jason's Mask. Flames Fade in and Out as Newspaper Clippings MONTAGE over one another tracing Freddy and Jason's Respective Histories.
WE Open On a College Lecture Hall. Students are waiting impatiently on their Philosophy Professor. Among them are CRAIG, his girlfriend ELIZABETH, and her African-American friend BINGHAM. They are soon joined by Craig's Richboy/Slightly Geeky roommate VERDY. They sit for a while, then start to leave, but Elizabeth starts to get one of her "feelings". The Prof is about to come in the door.
JUST THEN, The Door Opens and in walks DR. NEIL GORDON(Craig Wasson from ELM ST. 3: Dream Warriors). He apologizes for
being late and starts class.
He lectures on The COLLECTIVE EVIL theory, which states that
Mankind's Own Evils and sins, from smallest to Largest, gather together and are returned (or "recycled" as one of the students jokes) to Earth in various forms. He issues a group assignment to the class to deliver a report on The
Nature of Evil. During Class, Elizabeth looks out a class window and see a little boy staring at her intently. She looks away for a second and the
boy is gone.
CRAIG, ELIZABETH (or Beth), BINGHAM and VERDY stay after
class to talk to him. Dr Gordon looks Haggard and tired, but Pleasant.
As he explains more about the assignment, a picture falls out of his folder.
The pic lands face up on the floor. It's a Picture of NANCY
THOMPSON (Heather Langenkamp from Elm St's 1, 3, and New Nightmare). Beth bends to pick it up, touches it and another "feeling" washes over her; she feels cold. She asks Dr. Gordon about the woman in
the picture. He just says regretfully, "Someone that I cared a lot about who, uh... died." He excuses himself and walks out leaving The four
students bewildered, except for Beth who gets a very unnerving feeling.
LATER, at Dr. Gordon's house, He drinks and listens to some classical music while staring at Nancy's Picture. He stares for a long while then goes to his study. His desk is cluttered with papers, books, etc., on Dreams, Serial Killers, Ancient Folklore and FREDDY KRUEGER.
He looks at the Clipping, which has a picture of Freddy as he leaves The Springwood County Courthouse. The caption underneath explains that Krueger was freed on a technicality. Freddy's cold stare is looking right at the camera. He has an eerie smirk on his face.
Dr. Gordon holds up Nancy's pic and looks back and forth from it to the Clipping of Freddy. He then lights a candle and sets the Freddy clipping on fire. He watches it burn and says, "Soon, and very soon, you son of a
bitch". WE SEE an EXTREME close-up of the clipping as it's burning.
The last thing we see is Freddy's eyes staring right at US.
CRAIG, BETH, VERDY and BINGHAM are discussing their assignment. BETH talks about her "feeling" when touching the photo of
Nancy Thompson. Bingham and the guys roll their eyes and make friendly fun of her for her emphatic and extrasensory gifts. Beth warns them that something VERY strange is going on with Dr. Gordon. They all agree to start their research the next day.
CUT TO: The Crystal-Lake County Registrer's Office.
HERBERT, the old county clerk, receives a phone call. We don't hear or see who he's talking to, but by his answers we know he's heard something rather disturbing. He calls SHERIFF MEEKER's Office. Sheriff Meeker
nods a few times and hangs up. He also has a concerned look on his face. We follow his car as it makes its way out to the area that was CAMP CRYSTAL LAKE. He pulls up to the shore of the Lake. Out in the middle of the lake is a MAN in a canoe, fishing. Meeker waves for him to
come in. He comes in. It is TOMMY JARVIS (from F13 4, 5, & 6).
Meeker tells Tommy that some development company has just bought Crystal Lake and that he will have to vacate the land. Tommy tells him that he has no other place to go, that this is his "home".
MEEKER: Look Tommy, I've never had a problem with you staying on
the camp grounds the last few years (after the events in JASON Goes to Hell) because you're quiet and I never had any trouble from you. Besides, I knew your Mother and I know you had some problems growing up, but the fact is you don't own the land. Some big-shot Development Co. Up north does now. They'll be up in a week so you have to be gone.
TOMMY protests, but SHERIFF MEEKER tells him he's better be gone in a week. Tommy reluctantly nods. Meeker drives away, but as he's driving away, he looks in his rear view to see Tommy glaring at the car as it pulls away. Tommy goes to the cabin he's been staying in and looks
around. It looks like a Jason Museum: clippings, sketches, Old Hockey mask. He also sees pictures of his Mother and sister. He shakes his head
violently and cries and starts to trash the place. He finally calms down. He holds up the Hockey mask and stares at it. WE SEE TOMMY's
FACE in One of the Circles in the Hockey Mask.
THAT NIGHT at BETH & BINGHAM's CAMPUS APPARTMENT: Beth is tossing and turning in her sleep. WE ENTER HER DREAM as She finds herself staring at The Old Elm Street House. The wind starts to
blow; lightly at first and then gusting. The Door to the House Opens. The wind picks her up and sucks her toward the open door.
BUT... Just as she's about to go through the Door, the Air around her CHANGES and starts to RIPPLE like WATER - SPLASH!
Suddenly she finds herself Underwater. She flails around completely panicked and disorientated. She struggles to come to the surface. A SMALL ARM reaches out and grabs hers and pulls up toward the surface. She makes her way out of the water to the shore. She sees an old wooden sign half buried. She makes out the words: CAMP CRYSTAL LAKE. While looking at the sign, she notices out of the corner of her eye THE SAME LITTLE BOY who was staring at her through the Lecture Hall window. Now The little boy is wearing only swimming trunks and is soaking wet. She tries to talk to the little boy, but he runs into the forest. She chases him but loses him in a clearing. She stops. RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER IS A STORE: The Sign above says THE SHOPPE: Antiques & Rarities.
She yells for anyone. Nobody. She walks up to the door of the SHOPPE
and is about to open it when A HAND grabs her shoulder from behind!
She screams... AND WAKES UP. CRAIG's hand is On her shoulder as
he tries to Calm her down.
CRAIG tries to CALM ELIZABETH down, but she still can't get her
dream (?) out of her head. She also can't explain why her nightgown is soaking wet.
The next morning, CRAIG, ELIZABETH (Beth), VERDY, and
BINGHAM are walking to a coffee house when Beth spots the same
storefront she saw in her dream: THE SHOPPE: Rarities & Antiques.
Despite the others' protests, she drags them into the store. Everything is
Old, Dusty, and Spooky. We see all kinds of things.
All four of the college kids look around the store. FROM BEHIND A
CURTAIN (POV shot) SOMEONE/THING IS WATCHING them.
Beth gets another "feeling". She turns toward the curtain.
BETH: HELLO?
The Curtain opens and out steps AN OLD MAN.
He is Disturbingly Gentle-Looking.
OLD MAN: Why Hello There. Welcome to The Shoppe. What can I do for you?
BETH: We were - uh - just looking around, Mr--
OLD MAN: Folks just call me THE SHOPPEKEEPER.
CRAIG: I never noticed this store before. Are you new here?
THE SHOPPEKEEPER smiles at him.
THE SHOPPEKEEPER: I've Always Been Here.
They look around the store some more. VERDY asks what's behind the
curtain/door. The Keeper tells them that The SHOPPE is also a "Gallery" of sorts. He escorts them to them back to the room.
INSIDE the room are Dozens of Display Cases. Many different weird things: A CHAINSAW, A PUZZLEBOX, A DOLL, A WHITE MASK(that looks amazingly like WILLIAM SHATNER),
BOOK WHICH LOOKS TO BE MADE OF HUMAN FLESH, ETC. VERDY comes to TWO COVERED UP display cases on the end and asks about them. The 'keeper says they are New Arrivals which he "hasn't properly prepped for display yet". The Four kids plead with the
Keeper to see them. He pulls off the cover to reveal A familiar
RAZORED GLOVE in a Glass Dome and an equally familiar
HOCKEY-MASK and MACHETE in another.
EVERYONE is silent. Then SUDDENLY VERDY starts to laugh. Then CRAIG starts to laugh, followed by BINGHAM. Everyone is laughing
except BETH and THE SHOPPEKEEPER. VERDY makes a joke about
the two items, apparently not knowing their significance.
The KEEPER starts to explain some of the history behind the objects. We start to flashback to clips of both series, highlighting significant
developments, such as both characters' "Deaths" in NOES 6 and JASON GOES TO HELL)
A BELL IS HEARD OFF SCREEN. Somebody has entered the store up
front. The KEEPER excuses himself and goes up front to help the
customer. BINGHAM comments that she heard something about JASON
a long time ago. VERDY suggests that they do their project on Freddy and Jason. All Agree, Except BETH who is still silent. CRAIG asks what's wrong. Without speaking, BETH takes the Glass Cylinder off the Pedastal and PICKS UP THE GLOVE. She gets a WILD FLASH in her mind and FAINTS. The others help her up and bring her to. Her eyes are wide and crying. She tries to describe what she saw. BINGHAM and
CRAIG say they should leave, Beth disagrees. They put the glove back.
BETH reaches for the HOCKEY MASK. She feels another terrible
shock, but inside her mind, SHE HEARS A YOUNG BOY SCREAM.
She puts the mask back just as the Shoppekeeper returns. VERDY (a
rich kid) offers to buy both objects. The Shoppekeeper refuses. Bingham
asks how he acquired them. The Keeper says they were sent
ANONYMOUSLY with a card that just said: A GIFT. VERDY makes
several offers, one higher than the next. The Keeper still refuses.The kids shrug & leave.
As the four (CRAIG, BETH, BINGHAM, and VERDY) walk
back to campus, they talk about what they saw.
BETH: When I touched the glove, I got this.. this... feeling of pure evil. All I saw next were flames and somebody standing behind them. He - It was laughing. And then for some strange reason, I saw the picture of that girl (Nancy Thompson) that Dr. Gordon had.. the friend of his that he said died...
VERDY: What did the man look like?
CRAIG: What man?
VERDY: He... She said HE was standing behind the flames. What did he look like?
BETH: I'm not sure. He was sort of silhouetted behind the fire. All I could make out was the Razored Glove and a hat. He had on a hat.
BINGHAM: Maybe it was that Krueger Dude the old Shoppe Guy was talking about?
VERDY: Are you serious Bing?! C'mon, You're the LAST person I thought would believe in spooky kids' stories and old town legends.
BINGHAM: Have you ever heard the saying, "Behind every Legend, there's some truth?"
VERDY: Yeah, but please - Dreamstalkers killing people in their sleep, Serial killing Hockey Players? I don't think so.
BINGHAM: How do you explain BETH'S gift?
VERDY: I don't know. All I know is--
Verdy's Beeper Goes Off. He checks it.
VERDY: It's my Father. Oh Lord, What now? They pass The Local Library. Craig suggests that they go look up some info on Freddy and Jason. Verdy goes to use the phone to call his father.
A LITTLE LATER...
Craig, Bingham, and Beth are pouring over stacks of Bound Newspaper Clippings and Books. Bingham reads aloud some of Freddy's known exploits while Craig reads aloud the adventures of Crystal Lake's favorite son.
CRAIG: These guys have done some heinous sh*t. This stuff can't be true.
BETH: What if it is?
CRAIG: Baby, I'm with Verdy on this one - some of this stuff--
BINGHAM: Some of this stuff is actually Documented! We're sitting
here reading it! Eye witness accounts--
CRAIG: Look, How many nuts have you seen on those tabloid shows
babbling about seeing space ships or ghosts?
As Craig and Bingham's Verbal Debate Fades into the background,
BETH is staring at an article about young Jason Voorhees drowning when she looks up and sees the SAME LITTLE BOY she saw in her dream and outside the Lecture Hall window. He is standing there LOOKING DIRECTLY AT HER...
BETH is frozen. She stares right back at the boy who hasn't moved at all.
She gets up from her chair and walks toward the boy. Just before she reaches him, a LIBRARY AIDE pushing a big carted stack of books crosses between she & Jason. When he passes, the Boy is GONE.
BETH looks all around. On the floor in front of her is a BOOK. She picks it up and look at the title: THE CRYSTAL LAKE MURDERS by Jenny Fields (the only survivor played by Amy Steel from Friday The 13th Part 2). She flips through some of the pages, some of which have pictures of Crystal Lake & some Early Family Photos of Pamela Voorhees, Jason, but on the page that had the pic of Elias Voorhees (Jason's Father). The top half with his face on it has been torn out. BETH closes the book and
looks around Uneasily.
MEANWHILE: IN SPRINGWOOD, A DEAL has just been made to buy and renovate the Springwood BoilerWorks.
BETH looks at the inside of the Crystal Lake book and gets the
publisher's phone number. BETH tries to get a hold of Jenny Fields about her Crystal Lake book, only to find out that Jenny was found DEAD a few days ago. She goes back to CRAIG & BINGHAM who are still at the library table arguing. She tells them about seeing Young Jason and finding the Book on the floor. Just then VERDY comes back and tells them his father is ill and his family wants him to hop on the first plane home. They
check out the Jenny Fields book and all the other Freddy/Jason documents from the library.
THAT NIGHT: CRAIG, BETH, and BINGHAM are pouring over all the
information while making notes. BINGHAM thinks a while and offers a suggestion: WHAT IF THE THEORY OF THE COLLECTIVE EVIL IS TRUE? Just then there is a KNOCK at the door...BETH goes to answer it. It is DR. GORDON. His clothes are disheveled and he's partially Drunk.
BETH: Dr. GORDON?
Dr. GORDON looks at her, a faraway look in his eyes.
DR.GORDON: Oh Nancy...
(He starts Crying)
Nancy...Nancy, I'm sorry I couldn't save you...
He caresses BETH's Cheek. She is scared. CRAIG comes and shakes him.
CRAIG: Dr. GORDON... DR. GORDON!
Dr. GORDON snaps back to himself...A FEW HOURS LATER, after a few pots of coffee, GORDON tells about Nancy, his encounter with Freddy, and the news that the Springfield Boilerworks have been bought.
He turns to BETH.
DR.GORDON: I know about your psychic abilities. I wanted a chance to work with you and help you develop them. I had some students... patients at one time... Freddy killed them...
CRAIG: Are you trying to tell us this whole Dream Killer thing is TRUE? Bullsh*t!
BINGHAM: What does that have to do with Beth?
Dr. GORDON looks at BETH.
DR.GORDON: You're the only way I can enter the Dream Realm...I need to find out if he's coming back.
CRAIG: You want Beth to go look for this guy?!? No F*ckin' way, Doc!
DR.GORDON: There's absolutely no danger, If she even starts to twitch, I can bring her out of it...
CRAIG: No way!
BETH: I'll do it...
CRAIG: What?!? Beth, NO!!!
BETH: I have to...I have to save him.
DR.GORDON: Who?
BETH: The Boy.
BINGHAM: What boy? Jason? Beth, Jason's not a little boy...He's a
monster...Besides...He's dead now. So is Krueger. Some of the
documents we found said that Krueger's real daughter was said to have actually killed him.
DR. GORDON: She's dead.
BETH: What?
DR GORDON: Her name was Katherine Krueger(from FREDDY's DEAD). I met her a while back & stayed in contact with her over the last few years. I only found out recently that she'd been murdered. So was Alice-
BINGHAM- Wait, we found some info on an Alice...Who was she?
Dr. GORDON: She was the last link to my original students. She absorbed the memories of Kristin Parker, one of my students...Kristin had psychic abilities...much like I suspect Beth has.
BETH: Let's do it.
AN HOUR LATER in the campus psychology research lab...Beth is lying on a bed with wires taped to her head and fingers. The wires are attached to a series of machine. DR. GORDON, with BINGHAM & CRAIG behind him, sits on the edge of the bed and starts to put Beth in a hypnotic sleep.
She starts to go under.
In BETH's mind, we see vague images at first...She sees The Springwood Boilerworks...she sees men bringing equipment...directing them she sees a figure that seems familiar but can't make it out...
She takes a step toward the figure, but she VANISHES.
The next thing she sees are TREES...She adjusts her site & looks around. She recognizes the place from her dream. She's at CRYSTAL LAKE again. She looks through the trees at a CEMETARY.
She sees men bringing in equipment just like at the boilerworks. Out of the corner of her eye, she sees someone also watching from behind the trees.
It's TOMMY JARVIS.
Tommy also notices her. They start toward one another, but then BETH VANISHES AGAIN...
BETH IS STANDING AT A DOOR. She stares up at the sign. She's in front of THE SHOPPE. She enters & calls for The Shoppekeeper. No answer.
She walks in back to The Gallery.
It's been wrecked.
She sees The Shoppekeeper on the ground, coming to consciousness. She helps him to his feet. He tells her that he went to complete the display for the Freddy Glove & Jason Mask when someone hit him over the head. They go to the display.
BACK IN THE LAB, DR. GORDON & THE OTHERS wait...
BETH bolts up violently. The others restrain her & try & calm her, but Beth is frantic.
DR. GORDON: BETH! It's alright...it's alright..Now focus...What happened?
BETH(almost babbling): Someone's bringing him back...He's coming back... Resurrection...Hell on Earth...
DR GORDON: Who? Which one? Freddy?
CRAIG: Jason?
FLASHBACK TO THE SHOPPE A MINUTE AGO IN BETH'S MIND. She and The Shoppekeeper approach the display. Beth gasps.
THE SHOPPEKEEPER: Oh no...
BOTH THE MASK & GLOVE are GONE...
BACK IN THE LAB
BETH(wide eyed): OH MY GOD...BOTH OF THEM...
****TO BE CONTINUED!****
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