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Movement on TIME MACHINE
Hey folks, Harry here... You recently read or... endured shall I say, Moriarty's rather long rambling senile attempt at a review for Dreamworks' adaptation of H.G.Wells' THE TIME MACHINE. Now as of yet there is not actors attached that we know of... but I have heard that artists and storyboard guys and gals have been employed and working. Now we have a tidbit about where part of this film will be shot.... and when. Looks like this is another of the 'pre-strike' projects. Something that benefits from the threat of future horror... Although... unlike projects like THE LAZY DETECTIVE and SNAKES ON A PLANE.... this one, allegedly, has a great script.... and months of design and pre-production behind it. I can't wait to follow this film through production! Here ya go....
Harry-
I work at the Albany NY NBC affiliate- Word just came to our
newsroom that Dreamworks will be filming sequences in Troy, a city
across the Hudson from Albany, sometime in February for the forth coming
TIME MACHINE re-make.
Troy was also used by Scorese for Age of Innocence.
I'll keep you informed.
Helldive
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I have nothing important or relevant to say...I just wanted to say "Time Schmime".
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i once heard a my physics professor say that time travel was impossible because of the law of entropy, but i was busy hitting on the girl next to me, so I never figured out why.
Also, there was a Phillip K. Dick story where a guy goes back in time, but he's, like, 3 times bigger than everyone else because the universe is constantly expanding, so as you go back in time, everything shrinks. (Whatever Dick was smoking, I want some) -
Moriarty's review is senile and then go on, in the next sentence, to say, "There IS no ACTORS" attached yet. Whatever. Anyway, I thought the script that Moriarty so admirably described sounded great. Oh yeah, and I thought I read yesterday that they had resolved the actors' strike. What's going on now?
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No comment either. I was just surprised to see my hometown factor in on some rumors.
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The only responsible take on the idea of time travel that I can think of that's come out recently is '12 Monkeys'. Of course, it's also the most maddening if you try and think through the logic of it.
'T1,' 'T2,' 'Back To The Future,' 'TimeCop,' and esp. 'Frequency' are all pure fantasies... Not because of the time travel aspect itself, but because of the 'rules' they set up in their respective universes, only to break, abandon, or twist in service of the plot. So, as frustrating as a '12 Monkeys' is from a story standpoint, it does remain true to the "closed time-like loop" theory of time travel.
The most laughable example that's just come out is Crichton's 'Timeline' novel..
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We live in a remanufactured world. Recycled ideas instead of creating something new and different. The original "Time Machine" stands on its own. Why be a retread?
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Recipie for Rehashed Turd:
1 Cup of Executive Brain Matter (light sauce)
1 Cup of Played out Story Material
1 Pinch of Self-Preservation
2 Tablespoons Music Video Director
1 Tablespoon Over-ripened Actor (Cruise, Stallone, or any fruit will do)
Bake at 150 degrees, so as to avoid killing bacteria.
Serve to MTV between Brittney and N'Suck.
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It is...I REPEAT, it is TOO EARLY to tell if this movie will suck or not. As far as being a retread? Well, I for one am all-over seeing a classic movie made with todays cinematic tools & effects.
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I'd like to say to those pocket-protector-wearing Star Trek-analyzing nerds: WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT THE SCIENCE OF TIME TRAVEL?! It's a movie based on a novel written in the 19th century for God's sakes!!! I'm surprised you morons didn't go all balls-out an explanation on why "Hollow Man" was scientifically incurate!!!
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I have just finished reading H. G. Wells's The Time Machine. I found the story slow, unintresting and stupid. It is Not a patch on that other H. G. Wells Masterpiece War of the Worlds. I have seen the 60's version of The Time Machine, I found it slow and rather boring but it does keep quite close to the book. (SPOILER WARNING).
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BUT in the Book the Hero is so dumb he Discovers the Morlocks and obtains a weapon of a Steel bar, Later when in a Museum He keeps the bar despite having access to real arms, (real smart.) Later He and His companion Weena are captured by morlocks but escapes after starting a forest fire, The morlocks drop a unconsious Weena and she burns to death. The Hero (he isn't named in the book) Does not save her later, As in most modern Time travel tales. He after all has A TIME MACHINE.
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Not realy a tale that would make a proper Hollywood epic but it was written in a different age and so I say that only a DRASTIC rewrite would make this tale acceptable to todays General public. But I have to admit even if it was put on screen exactly as written (if only that happened for War of the Worlds) I would go to see it. -
Why can't those damn Morlocks just go on the paper? This idea continues to sound as dreadful as the Psycho remake.
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The Time Machine by H.G. Wells was meant to have more social commentary than actual science fact. Anyone looking for anything other than that needs to read a different book.
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Aside from acknowledging the fact that the idea of my taking shit from a guy named "Uncle Fucka" whose email is based on a ridiculously hyped character with perhaps three lines in a trilogy of movies is ridiculous, I just wanted to say that if someone asks a simple question, why can't we give a simple answer? It wasn't even an asinine question, merely something that I knew could be answered quickly in this forum of film geeks. I guess one has to be ready for the lack of any kind of social skills stereotypically related to a medium such as this.
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Oct 29, 2000 1:25:15 AM CDT
Time Travel and people who think they know anything about it.
by tender branson
It really kills me whenever someone thinks they can expound on the nature of what is and isn't ridiculous as far astime travel theorys go. What the fuck does ANYONE know about time travel? Has anyone ever done it? Didn't think so. And the moron who made fun of "Timeline"?? Are you high?
I think it's hilarious whenever ANYONE insults anything have to do with quantum physics. I certainly am not qualified or knowledgeable enough to make any kind of statements where that matter is concerned, but what was set forth in that book, I believe were explained in the afterword as "FAR FETCHED IDEAS BASED ON ACTUAL QUANTUM--hold on to something--THEORIES." I don't take the book seriously and found it to be the first book he's written since "Jurassic Park" that was readable. As far as time travel goes, who the fuck really knows? It's a facinating idea, but the very nature of the idea is a moronic suggestion in itself. If we were to go by the traditional laws of physics, time travel is impossible. Why? Because we tend to think of time as a place, whereas popular science (And I say "POPULAR SCIENCE" because that's all science is. Something will come along eventually that will disprove everything, it's a neverending cycle of discovery and advancement. Nothing is static in science, not even gravity.) suggests it is not anything even remotely like that. In order to go somewhere, the place has to be there for us to go to. If time is a stream then the future and past aren't exactly destinations. Get where I'm going with this? "Timeline" recognized that and came up with another idea. Besides the fact that I find the very notion of time travel horrifying, who cares? You're talking about fiction. When the FUCK did this goddamn idea that EVERYTHING has to be 100% plausible take hold, when pertaining to FICTION????? I thought that was that FICTION was supposed to be. All these stupid motherfuckers with their dipshit "STAR TREK" manuals, trying to prove it's based in reality while building a real lightsaber ARE MISSING THE FUCKING POINT!!!!! It's SCIENCE-FICTION, not SCIENCE-FACT. Big difference, people.
Oh, and I think a REWORKING of "The Time Machine" could be facinating in the right hands. The sociological ramifications of the Elois and the Morlocks is ripe for an intelligent writer to take hold of and turn what Wells splashed on to the page without a single care about substance, into a real thinking piece of Science-Fiction.
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This reminds me of the Isle of Dr. Moreau movie with Brando. When made into a movie, it didn't quite retain its social commentary elements in full, profound form. Same thing with that Animal Farm movie they made. People watch these movies for the storyline, not for the subtext. I really dug The Time Machine, but I won't see a movie based on it because it can never compare to the way it was in my imagination and how it made me think as I read it. As if anybody cares what I do.
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When I read the Time Machine by H.G. Wells I expected a book as good as Wells's War of The Worlds but I was disapointed for the reasons I have already gave. I could also add that it seemed Dated in it's assumption that the future for the lower classes was to dwell underground and turn into Morlocks. As a Morden Day British Subject I cannot accept this as The Class system of the time "The Time Machine" was written has long been destroyed, some of it due to Wells himself. In this way of thinking The lackluster film of the 60's had it more believable in that Morlocks are decendants of people who fled underground. I accept that The Time Machine was written in a different time, A different Society and to a different readership. But my critasisms are aimed at The Story from a Modern View with a idea to put the story on film NOT a Social Historian studying the later half of the 19th Century.
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You can travel through time! It's simple...USE YOUR MEMORY!!! There I said it!!! The cat's let out of the bag!! Memory is our only viable vessel for time traveling...however, you can make yourself into a time machine with a few simple household goods. First get naked. Then put a plastic baggy from any popular supermarket (eg. Ralphs/Safeway) over your head wearing it like a hat. Then take a piece of celery, stick it up your ass so it juts out like a pole. Then lay on your stomach and spin clockwise on the floor as fast as possible; note: wood floors might cause splinters in delicate regions. The faster you spin the further ahead you advance. Reverse direction to go back in time. Anyway, this method of travel has been a secret between scientists and physics alike for many centuries. In fact, Albert Einstein came up with his E=mc2 after spinning naked on the floor for hours in Vienna circa 1940. In fact, he was able to go so far back in time that he encountered the first caveman. This is a government secret, and I really shouldn't have divulged any of this...
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Well, for someone who hates "morons who expound on time travel" you seem to do a pretty good job of it. I mean, now that we've been treated to your theory of "wherever you go, there you are" and all. Interesing idea, by the way, too bad about your Fred Durst style delivery.
There have been over 400 stories written on the subject, and I've always found it an interesting topic. And also, just because I'm not a particle physcist (and neither, apparently, are you), that doesn't preclude me, you, or anyone else from contributing their two cents worth, especially on the philosophical issues. Why should scientists have all the fun? The paradoxes and everything else have confounded philosophers for years.
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"Now as of yet there is not actors..."
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Regarding the "scientific validity" for time travel... After re-reading SPELUNKER GREGG and TENDER BRANSON's post...
I think my reaction was a bit misplaced. Both of these posters seem to be making more or less the same point. But while Tender Branson manages to articulate some interesting ideas, Spelunker Gregg just comes off as more of a garden-variety jack-ass.
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I think people are taking the whole concept of a remake too seriously. The original was good,but there is a whole audience out there that has no understanding of a sci-fi classic that does not just rely on special effects and stunts, but a different look at the future from an imaginitive genius such as HG Wells. So give it a chance eh?
It could be good for all of us.
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