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Basil Poledouris and KING CONAN!!!
Hey folks, Harry here in Los Angeles... I'm currently looking out at downtown LA and dancing a gig... as this news... well it's the type to get the heart pumping palpatations and making like McConaughey on Bongos... Ok, sure... it isn't anything definite... but it is still just the damn mention... and hearing Basil being excited about it... and ya know, the vision in my mind's eye of going to my local CD shop and buying a NEW BASIL POLEDOURIS CONAN score... well it is the sort of thing of HIGH ADVENTURE... I love road trips with his original CONAN score... early dawn... crossing Arizona... sigh... yes. This is good.
Long time reader, first time writer. I got the
opportunity to hear Basil Poledouris speak today.
Fascinating guy, Anyone who is interested in film
music should hear this guy speak. He's extremely
likable and immensely knowledgable.I was impressed. He
talked a lot about his relationship with Milius and in
it he mentioned three times how Milius really wanted
to do superhero "spiderman type" movies. I remember
when you thought that Milius should get Spiderman-
after the stories Basil told us about him, I want him
more than Raimi and I LOVE SAM RAIMI.
Anyways, I asked
him what his future projects were including maybe King
Conan. He said he was about to do the next Crocodile
Dundee film and told us the plot. He said that the
Wachowski Brothers are currently the guys to helm the
next Conan flick and are HUGE fans of the Milius
original.
When I asked him if he was going to do them
he said with a smile "I sure as hell hope so." This
probably isn't even news but it's as good as I got
right now. If you can use it-great. I have to go eat
some pez and toast anyways.
be seeing you
MR.GoNe
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And Arnold's getting to be the right age to do a King Conan now, especially with him recently talking about slowing down and wanting to do different kinds of movies rather than ones where they're just trying to up the body count. This could be pretty sweet; it's about time for us to get the third Conan movie.
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I have no life.
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Man, a quality sequel to the first Conan would be delightful. The first actually uses Arnie's stoic incomprehension of English to its advantage.
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Did anyone else notice that on the Collectors/Directors Edition they recently released, they changed the ending text crawl? It talks about how Conan eventually went on to become king by his own hand. In the original, there was no narration and it ended "but that is another tale". In the new version, there's a voice over by the wizard, and it ends "and this tale, too, shall be told...". Looks good for the future, friends and neighbors...
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Poledouris or not, it's Milius that makes Conan Conan.
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I'm not sure about that one folks. The Arnold of today is about half the size of the Conan Arnold. You can't expect the guy to maintain the kind of regimen he was into 20 years ago at his age, especially after heart surgery. And a "Son of Conan" with Arnold on the sidelines as some other character doesn't appeal to me either. If the "King Conan" character is a much older version, well-maybe. But at the same time, if Arnold can't hack the physical stuff anymore, it's gonna be obvious if you're cutting back and forth to stuntmen and body doubles. And while John Milius did an awesome job on the first flick, the second one left a lot to be desired and I think any filmmaker who can stay true to the spirit of the Howard pulps will be okay.
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Milius and the Walchowski's will do a wonderful job with KING CONAN. Arnold will be a god again after films like TERMINATOR 3 (which has a solid script from what I read at AICN) and the next Conan flick. After working with Schwarzenegger on CONAN back in the early 80's, I remember when Milius was going to direct the SGT.ROCK film for Warner with Arnold has Rock. I know Milius wrote a draft and maybe he is the guy who should still direct Arnold as Sgt.Rock (him or John McTiernan). Maybe even the Walchowski's would do justice to the SGT.ROCK comic book war tale. They do afterall work with mega producer Joel Silver who owns the project and the two brothers do afterall want to work with Schwarzenegger. I never heard Milius mention Spider-Man but he was a genre kind of director.
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...so why o why didnt I also predict that I'd be banging Britney Spears. The stars must have been at a rare conjuction that won't happen again for another thousand years. I guess I can only predict many lonely nights on Talkback now. As for Arnold being much smaller than he was 20 years ago I think King Conan should wear armor. A huge suit of plate mail. Maybe they could have one or two scenes sans armor where we see how scared and burned up he became in the past decades as he struggled to rise to power.YEAAAAHHH!
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Sorry folks, but there is no way for these two to make an epic style film as King Conan. Their film style is overly flashy. Even Bound had its moments of worthless flash that didn't advance the story.
Conan should be shot in the style of the old Hollywood sword and sandal type of epics. I want a sense of grandeur and sweeping vistas. I want the widescreen's mis-en-scene to be exploited to the max. This movie should have a slow and serious feel to it. It cannot be a living comic book. Also Arnold adds to the possible cheese factor. If they direct this film they must prevent him from getting hammed up and lame. The Walchowskis will over emphasize the action and it will become no more than a cheese ball Arnold flick with swords. It's a shame that they are directing this. We need Ridley Scott to direct this and make it even more badass than Gladiator.
I can imagine it now. King Conan jumps in the air doing some corny ass Woo Ping wire-fu and slashes a lizard man in half. I can see it now, prepare for it early because it might just happen. Ugh. Wire-fu out!!
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I think the W.Bros. are excellent directors...and It hink their style could only do King Conan justice. Afterall, Conan is a comic-bookish caracter anyway. Besides, if anything, the Wachowskies are VERY creative and have artistic vision...something that is far too rare amongst filmmakers today. No more pop crap, I say! I think that if they apply their hand to making an epic film, that they will make an excellent one. I wouldn't expect King Conan to have a visual style similar the Matrix... it's just that the Matrix REQUIRED that kind of flare for complex visuals. The W.Bros. will probably some up with a few new tricks to make Conan it's own style of visual splendor. But I must agree with the fact that Arnold might be a problem. He's very headstrong, I hear.... And if he lets that beefy head interfere with the Wachowski Bros.' vision for the film,. disaster could insue...
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Oct 26, 2000 11:56:37 PM CDT
Crush mine enimies...see dem drivin' before me...and hear da lam
by john bigbooty
NO!! It's not a tumor. It's an old Ah-nuld with a triple by pass, wheezing his way back to Crom. BRING IT ON !! Hey, I liked the retarded
Conan Destroyer. It was Grace Jones's finest hour. What? Red Sonja was better?
Try again. That sucked far worse. King Conan could blow hard like anything else but I like the fact
that somebody is trying to make the fans happy. Even if it is BS.
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Oct 27, 2000 12:24:42 AM CDT
Notice the lack of elaboration on the next Crocodile Dundee film
by andy travis
Hee hee. Oh, Paul Hogan. How about a sequel to his angel movie while they're at it?
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He must direct this!
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Oct 27, 2000 12:34:33 AM CDT
Let's all pray to Crom that this happens. And if he doesn't list
by dave_f
Three things you need for a great "King Conan" movie: Schwarzenegger, Milius, and Poledouris. There's not a kernel of doubt in my mind that Poledouris is absolutely essential to the mix. I'd love to see Subotai back too, Conan's kick-ass brother-in-arms. He pulled Conan off that Tree of Woe, cried for Valeria when Conan couldn't, and did you see how he arrowed the hell out of that giant snake?! What a guy! I'm hyped that geek fandom seems to be collectively enthused for a final Conan movie. With the mighty Internet promoting our hope for some down 'n' dirty barbarism, the studio fatcats just might fund this baby...
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This past Spring, I had the opportunity to play "Hunt For Red October" WITH BASIL CONDUCTING while playing in the USC (no football jokes, we are all VERY disappointed here)Concert band. The man is AWESOME. His music is AWESOME. He is also a TROJAN!!!
Anyone want to have a discussion about film scoring, let's do it!!! I may not know everything, but I know a bit...
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Red Dawn is a classic? Wow, and I was tricked into thinking it was just a cheap propagandist piece of shit flick made by an NRA fanatic during the Reagan era. Seriosly though, Red Dawn sucked (and its kind of creepy that its still popular with some people) but I love the original Conan. Bring on King Conan now, we haven't seen a cool Arnie Film in too many a moon...
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I never could muster up much interest in any of the Conan stories, either as pulp fiction or through the lumbering and humourless Milius film, but I seems to me that people who vaunt it as
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I thought you ALMOST had a point. "The Euro-American new world order?" "mindless Reaganite militarism"? Do you even really know what you're saying, or did you just want to spin a couple multi-syllabic words into hip, catchy counter-culter-pop phrases? (and no, that's not an oxymoron) :) Anyway, all pretentious smugness aside, Arnold is a 1 dimensional actor. However, He DID create an iconic image of what Conan is supposed to be... Replacing him with ANYONE would be very hard to do without committing cinematic sacrelige...which is too bad.
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What about Triple H from WWF? Yah, start the flames, but come on, who is the ONLY person in the spotlight lately who looks at ALL like him? He could totally be Conan, but it'd have to be a younger Conan.
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looks like you have issues far beyond a good conan movie...
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looks like you have issues far beyond a good conan movie...
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His only decent picture was The Wind and the Lion and that was twenty-five years ago. He's all talk. The Wachowskis could direct circles around his ass any day of the week (I would have said that before the Matrix, if I only had Bound to judge from). Look at Milius' track record, go to IMDb and look at the films he's directed. He'll never get another big budget picture in his life, nor should he.
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Especially with Poledouris scoring. If this turns out to be a lie, Harry, I will hunt you down.
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Get Ralph Moeller (Gladiators, Conan t.v. show). He's ten times the actor Arnie is, anyway.
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Which didn't have wire-fu you playa-hatas. Give the guys a chance -- you have to admit they have visual style. Millus is a fine director, but Conan has always relied more on visuals than anything else. I actually think they would probably abandon wire-fu for a Conan film and really do some bone-crunching, gut-spilling battle scenes.
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Jeesus.
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......Because not only does that sound better, but it goes along with the series' name ("Conan the Barbarian", "Conan the Destroyer", Conan the King") See what I mean?
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That last comment made me laugh, if Arnold were here he would laugh too. Side burns do not make someone hard. Do people forget that Arnold is the most successfull body builder of all time? I think all you skinny movie geek wimps should get off his back.
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Who said anything about credible masculinity? The thing about Conan that makes him so damn cool is that he's "in"credible. He fucks witch women and then chucks them in the fire. he has arms the size of pumpkins. He ko's camels with one blow. YEAH!!!
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Hollywood doesn't have the backbone for a movie like Red Dawn? You say that like it's a bad thing. Hollywood also doesn't have the backbone to show images of white women being raped by people in blackface makeup, as in Birth of a Nation (which unlike Red Dawn really IS a classic).
I'm not saying the movie isn't well shot. I'm just slightly ticked off by its blatant paranoid ultra-patriotic anti-communist propaganda. And the fact that the whole thing plays like an overlong NRA commercial doesn't really make it more appealing. I think it's interesting as a piece of propaganda from the Cold War era (and of course the bleak Reagen years) the same way that some of the "educational" anti-commie flicks from the sixties are. But a good film? Pleeeeeeaaaaase... -
Red Dawn was not a propaganda film by any stretch of the imagination. Those who claim that it is only caught 5 minutes of the film when it's being shown on TBS from time to time or heard other people talk about it. What was the story line? The middle eastern oil wells run dry. NATO dissolves. Central American and Cuban military forces with Russian advisors invade the southwestern US. Does this film promote democracy or make communism look "evil"? Not in the slightest. In fact, its a very realistic scenario. The storyline of the all american football squad fighting back is a bit simplistic at times, but the film as a whole is told with a masterly touch that is alltogether lacking in the current cinema era. For me, the most compelling character was the cuban colonel Bella who is commanding the invasion force and realizes that he himself has become what he fought all his life against and despises, an oppressor of the common people.
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A European should play Conan - someone who would lend some credability to the aged warrior - It does say King Conan not young Conan - I think Gary Oldman should hit the gym - if not then get thee to Dorian Yates.
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A few years ago, I had this girl in my room and we were starting to get all hot and heavy, when suddenly I hear this music blaring from the next room. Well, it seems that my housemate figured that he'd help me out by cranking up the Conan soundtrack! Thankfully the girl in question had a sense of humour. I explained to her that it was a guy thing - kind of like "Jaws" or "Where Eagles Dare". She then asked me what is good in life and I told her: "To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women." She then bowed, kissed my feet and brought me a chicken pot pie. Well, maybe I'm exaggerating...
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Conan got some muff in The Barbarian didn't he,but they were all fucking mingers.Eurghh,I wouldn't touch them with any of yours.Valeria,sounds like a form of clap!Fucking heck.Did he do that Grace Jones bird as well,Christ she looked like a fuckin' fella!King Conan:Pumping Iron Asses 2 costarring as many rancid old fishmongers wifes as Arnie can stand to lob his rotting knob into without groaning loudly for his self respect.Ha Ha I got the last word on this subject.Unfussy porking machine that Conan!By the way what was his last name.Wilkes?Bonan?HOLMES?The moral of this story-all a boy needs is his Atlantean stoker to puncture a few bedraggled corpes.Nuff said.
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This topic is long since dead. But Let ne reiterate the assertion that Arnold is a wheezing grunting stiff, inagile lump of a man. I got over my muscle worshipping teenage phase years ago, Sideys may not of themselves make a man 'hard', but shrunken testicles, bitch nipples and brown paint combined with the gait of an elephantasis sufferer fail to impress me. I was and am into weight training, but I've lomg since grown out of the delusion that big men are real men. Inside every drug abusing 350lb freak-boy is a skinny shrieking victim, who invariably imagines that 'beach-ball-biceps' will guarantee respect and chicks. Disgard the caricatures of manhood sold to you by a cynical commercial media, MUSCLE in the Arnold sense, is a false distraction from real physical strength and endurance, just as cosmetics are are substitute for the beauty that comes from health. And I;ll thank you to stop flaunting your insecure vanity at me.
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A King Conan mean a new soundtrack by Poledouris! ouch
Probably Varese will release a complete Conan I & II...
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