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Confirmation on LOBO vs SUPERMAN Movie Development!!!

Hey folks, Harry here... See, I told you I was telling the truth... Naysaying wenches! And I'm telling you if Giffen can hammer this all the way through, and Warner Brothers COMMITS 100% in getting talented folks at every stage of development... this baby will rule the universe... BUT THE KEY IS TO SEW JON PETERS' MOUTH SHUT WITH MOTHBALLS INSIDE!!! He's poisoned enough of these projects and should not be trusted with any more of Warner Brothers' crown jewels! I anxiously await further developments on this property! Also, Lorenzo has been putting more interests in revamping the CATWOMAN film... though NANOBOT 1 has yet to report in on that!

Just found this little tidbit over at Comics2Film.Com:

Giffen Confirms Superman Vs. Lobo

Late last week, Ain't It Cool News broke a story about an exciting new direction the Superman movie effort may be taking. The report told of a new treatment that was in the hands of top people at Warner Bros. The new treatment abandoned the Death of Superman storyline entirely and, instead, featured the man of steel in a knock-down, drag-out with that main bastich Lobo! The treatment was turned in by none other than Lobo's daddy: comic veteran Kieth Giffen.

Comics2Film spoke with Giffen about the report last week. Giffen confirmed that he did write such a treatment. Contrary to the AICN report, the writer is not currently working on a screenplay. So far it's just a treatment. Beyond that Giffen did not want to comment further on what was supposed to have been a secretive development effort.

For the talkbackers below... BadShemp: Yes there are more than a couple evil robots. Superninja: Superman is very much the lead... Lobo is very much the bass though thumping the beat that this movie grooves to... if it happens...

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  • Oct. 25, 2000, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Superman Vs. Lobo

    by SeanR.net

    Say. It. Ain't. So!!!

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Gadzooks mister!

    by FakeShemp

    The fatman's right; this movie has the power to be most awesome. Especially if there is a robot or two thrown in there for good measure.

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Well

    by jimimack

    Thats great. Death of Superman is soooooo 1988. Out

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 7:07 p.m. CST

    first!

    by JPR

    first!

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 7:09 p.m. CST

    I don't recall too many people saying it was a FAKE -- just that

    by superninja

    I still hold to that. Would love to read the script, but I would rather see a film where Superman doesn't play 2nd fiddle to Lobo. Prove me wrong!

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 7:09 p.m. CST

    fourth actually

    by JPR

    sorry

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Did I miss a hot topic today, or are some of you just hanging ar

    by superninja

    I go to all these TalkBacks...see if anyone's added to them...Nothing. But then a new topic starts up, and a *frenzy* of activity!

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Ahem... JPR?

    by SeanR.net

    If you're using IEx try CTRL-F5 to "refresh" the page before claiming to be first... As to my posting it was a reference to Lobo's reaction on hearing of Supermans Death (pg65 of the Titan Books (UK) edition of "World without a Superman" - "Funeral day"

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Live actions Lobo....

    by Project: 2501

    Thats quacktastic!!!!

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 7:44 p.m. CST

    Hopefully they'll drop the numbering system altogether, Max.

    by Dave_F

    Hey, it worked for Bond and Indiana Jones. Besides, the Christopher Reeve-era continuity got bogged down by the third and fourth movies, so they might as well start anew, wiping the slate clean. One of the things I like about the Lobo concept is that it takes place well into Superman's career (or so Harry's earlier overview would suggest), clearly bypassing a retelling of his origin. I think this is fine, even considering this will be a new incarnation of the Man of Steel. Like I said in the previous Supes/Lobo Talkback, even Joe Average types have a pretty good understanding of Superman's origin already. They've either seen the Reeves movies or the comics or the cartoon or even "Lois & Clark", so I say the filmmakers would be wise to just cut to some heavy-duty adventure. And I do like the wacked-out Lobo premise. I generally hated the character in the comics, but caught his great potential when he appeared on the cartoon. Really, a perfect foil for Superman. Dini should script him (no offense, Kieth).

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Supes vs. Lobo

    by Jables

    This had better not suck. I hope they don't just try to make a movie that is marketable and able to sell tons of merchandise. Just think about how many great movies there would be if their primary focus was the actual movie. Let's just hope there is not a bunch of childish shit. If it is done right, it will be a kick ass movie.

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 7:51 p.m. CST

    LOBO!!!!! COOL!!!!!

    by Venger

    YEAH!!!! Sounds good to me! I am quite a fan of LOBO!! So this should holds particular interest for me. I just hope it dont suck or turn out to be bollocks! Check out my site.... www.venger.btinternet.co.uk (I drew a rather cool LOBO pic here)

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 7:54 p.m. CST

    This could be good... honestly!

    by SWDrawings.com

    This could be good because Lobo is the perfect foil to Superman. Superman is your basic Eagle Scout. Lobo is your basic degenerate high-school drop-out. If they pull it off without a lot of camp (the one thing that drags the Main Man down in much of his later work), this could be top quality cinema. Especially if they hold with the original Lobo profile that he can detect the weakness of his enemies and is basically the only guy who could beat Superman 1-on-1. The nicest thing about this report is that it proves Lobo isn't Giffen's red-headed stepchild as was reported in the last talkback.

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Yeah, that episode did work well

    by Venger

    I agree...the Superman cartoon with LOBO was excellent. The two of them are virtually indestructable and are complete opposites of one another -so imagine the carnage once they square up!!!! *rubs hands together* I cant wait already!!

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Ladies and Gentlemen, get ready for the most expensive film ever

    by Blue Devil

    Warner Bros. is going to go into the hole big time for this one. I hope they do support Supes, but I'm fearful of the fate awaiting this film. Personally, I hope this film focuses much more on the psychology of Superman. In today's day and age, we don't want a Man of Steel that's a cardboard cut out- LET'S HAVE SOME DRAMA. I would much rather see Superman deal with a serious dilemma (how about having to choose between the destruction of earth or the destruction of Krypton)????

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 8:35 p.m. CST

    <<sigh>>

    by Dirty_Bird

    We have Freddy Vs. Jason and Superman Vs. Lobo.......But NO Aliens Vs. Predator?!?!?! WHYYYYY!!!!!

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Keith Giffen's appearance. Ambush Bug's return. Coincidence?

    by Ambush Bug

    Bug here. The idea behind this film sounds pretty cool. I would love to see the Main Man and the Man of Steel square off, but I think that Superman's return to the big screen needs to be bigger than just a slugfest. I've enjoyed the Superman films, even the shitty Richard Pryor one. Supes has been gone for a while and I think a Big Battle of the Titans movie isn't monumentous enough. Since it's a movie, you know they will try to incorporate Lobo's origin in with Superman's. They will probably have that Bastich cause the whole Krypton destruction thingy. Actually, that wouldn't be half bad. Anyway, if Giffen is behind this one, I will be the first (and probably the only) one to demand an appearance by the greatest comic pair of all time: Ambush Bug and Cheeks. Just a cameo or a walk-by in the crowd would be nice. Include the Omega Men or G'Nort or LRon. Hell, throw in the League of Substitute Heroes for S's and G's. Bouncing Boy was the shit. And Stone Boy. And don't forget Antler Lad. Viva El Chico Antlero! The guy had antlers for crying out loud. That was his power. I smell a spinoff franchise. Antler Lad: the Motion Picture. The Further Adventures of Antler Lad. Giffen also has to include his trademark "Bwhahahahaha!" It can come from Jimmy Olsen or Blue Beetle or some guy on a toilet. I don't care. But I have to hear one of those in this film. Now let's cast this puppy. Let's see. Go the Jackman/Singer route and get an unknown for Supes. There aren't really any good known actors out there that can match the size and acting ability needed to pull off Superman. No Affleck. Maybe Brendan Fraser. Now for Lex Luthor. Everyone wants Spacey, but I think Billy Zane would be perfect. He plays arrogant and evil so well. This might be a Lobo vs Supey moobie, but Luthor has to be in there somewhere to fight Superman's brain while Lobo battles his brawn. Lobo- Now I am usually against casting wrestlers in films, but we're talking about the Main Man. He's a big guy who is nasty and talks a lot of trash. He is basically an alien big time wrassler. Go with Sid Viscious or Randy Savage. The Macho Man's voice would be pretty cool screaming, "That Fraggin' Bastich!!!" I'm not into the whole wrestling thing and I don't know too many of the new guys, but these two guys are big, dirty, and nasty. Perfect. Jimmy Olsen has to be Owen Wilson. He's perfect for Superman's biggest fan. As for Lois...How about Parker Posey? She'd be cool. Throw in a couple robots. That frikkin' little bulldog that follows Lobo around. Ambush Bug and Cheeks in a brief cameo. And I'll be there in the theatre on opening day. Frikkin' Antler Lad. Bwhahahahahaha!!!

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 8:42 p.m. CST

    SUPERMAN VS. SHERIFF LOBO? My Prayers Have Been Answered!

    by mrbeaks

    Will the Krypton native get some help from BJ and the Bear? Should these developments continue, ABC is gonna be a real juggernaut in next year's Battle of the Network Stars.

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 8:46 p.m. CST

    BULLCRAP UNCLE HAIRY!!!

    by Lil_Timmy

    There aint no stinkin' way a Sooperman versu Lobo movie will come to da moovees. I meen think 'bout it Uncle Hairy doo you reely think a Big studio like Warner Bros. is goin' to restart a potential billyun dollar franchize with some lame Sooperman Vs. Lobo flick?!! Mabye you all shood relize that Warner Bros' is probubly thinkin of making this a animated movie! I meen, come on Uncle Hairy...Duh!!!

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Im not sure

    by Ma Fratelli

    The idea sounds so outlandish, and so outside what comercialized, made for hasbro manufactured slop the last few comic book movies have been that I have a hard time believing this could be made, ie the last three batmans, spawn, even x-men was fairly pointless with out much meat. Then again these are all mostly kids stories anyway, and kids suck!

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Not that I'm a big Lobo fan...

    by AaronHayden

    but I hope he's not some shitty grunt-uttering only-good-for-muscle character. CoughVenomCoughBatmanandRobinCough. Yeah. Plus, I really don't see how they could do a believable non-CGI Lobo. I mean, there are big guys, but is there anyone that big? Will anyone buy a Space Hog? Whatever, just restart the Superman franchise with a decent movie. No camp. Let's have a good looking Lois, as in no Parker Posey. Sorry to whomever said that, but I was just watching Superman II on TBS the other day thinking, "Dammit, you're Superman! Surely you can find an intelligent woman who's way better looking than Margot Kidder and doesn't ask if you can figure out what color underwear she's wearing!" Okay, so that was the first Superman. I was still thinking it. Okay, so all that was random. Still, let's have a cool Supes movie to ramp up the franchise. Later.

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 9:30 p.m. CST

    I like pink very much, Lois!

    by human2

    Margot Kidder's raspy voice gives me nightmares. I do NOT want to see her in a wispy see-through baby blue evening gown, for god's sake. I agree. I do not know who the fuck Lobo is and I don't care. Make Bruce Campbell play Superman seriously, get a hot Lois Lane, and restart that franchise. Pit him against some evil space tentacles or something. I still get a charge out of the Superman movies (the first 3, anyway). And find us another Miss Teschmacher, will you? They never should have taken Donner from the director's chair.

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Who can play Lobo

    by MrManik

    I say he's played by a wrestler. They're huge, they act, and they're as low brow and crass as Lobo. I'm thinking the Rock.

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 10:16 p.m. CST

    BB:ROTJ review

    by Sugars

    This Lobo vs. Superman movie seems good to me. Anyway while I'm here it feels suitable for me to post my review of the un-cut version of Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker.MAJOR SPOILERS This movie rocks fom start to finish with 76 minutes of the best WB animation I've ever seen.I can't get out of my head Bruce Wayne's expression when he sees Joker wrecking a Wayne Enterprises party. No words can describe it. I believe that was the same expression I had while watching this. The movie opens with a fantastic action sequence better than anything ever seen in a James Bond flick. With fights, chases, explosions this movie brabs you immediately and trust me doesn't let go. Watching the explosion of something really expensive Terry/Batman says something to the effect of "Well that's not coming out of my allowance." Now this movie isn't only about mad action sequences some of the best scenes are the ones that reveal the goals,obligations and of course fears of the main characters. My favorite moment in the film is whan Bruce tells Terry, after the first encounter with Joker, that he doesn't want him to be Batman anymore. Absolutely loved this scene. It reveals so much and it makes perfect sense. This scene reminded me of the scene when Terry argued with his father in the pilot episode of BB. The results are almost as tragic. Terry spends a good portion of the movie digging to find the truth and trying to be accepted. Bruce learns a lot about Terry; aside of him he never saw before and Terry also discovers the true relevations of that haunting night involving Bruce's final battle against the Joker. The only disappointment with this movie was the abscence of Shirley Walker's terrific Batman theme in the 10 minute flashback sequence.How cool would that have been? And talking about the flashback sequence it's brilliant. Look closely at Bruce's reaction in this scene. The way that he attacks the Joker with savage blows. "I have a mind to break you in two" or something like that Bruce says. This scene is magnificent up there with with Frank Miller's "Tunnel of Love" battle. A sure classic. A scene fans will talk about for years especially because of its significance to the climax. Oh and did I mention the kick-ass fight sequences involving Batman against the Jokers. Fantastic. This movie just has too much cool shit to talk about. By the way Mark Hamill rules and "I'm not Joking." P.S Who saw the BB episode on the Kids WB titled 'Out of the Past'last Saturday If you have not it is a must see. Also written by Paul Dini.

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Kypton is gone, BlueDevil

    by X-Girls

    Bruce Campbell would do well in the role, but I'd like to see Patrick Warburton be SUPERMAN once in his lifetime, or else future generations will laugh like maniacs and assume we were all blind. I can't see how Lobo v. Superman would produce a great movie. Lobo sucks. You can have destruction and expensive action scenes set in mid-air/crashing into a building without Lobo. Superman has alot of better villains than that-some of whom are guys who are more suited to fighting Superman, y'know? Someone said let's not have a cut-out Superman- right on.

  • Oct. 25, 2000, 10:50 p.m. CST

    haha harry's the shaggydog!

    by X-Girls

    great work guy who works at those animation .gif s.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 12:16 a.m. CST

    I really don't think so

    by Dark Jedi

    I really think that is one of the worst advertising ideas I have ever heard of before. V in vs and just, no, please don't write in to have them make that poster, let the idea die here.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 12:17 a.m. CST

    Or...how about a Superman movie where Lex Luthor isn't a wuss?

    by superninja

    Big failure in the Superman film was to make Luthor a glorified car salesman and give him those two idiot sidekicks. Hackman could've been a GREAT Luthor in the traditional vein, too. What were they thinking? I want to see the world's most ambitious human nearly take out the Man of Steel! That's the classic showdown I really yearn for.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 12:24 a.m. CST

    It worked

    by Dark Jedi

    I totally agree with the idea that Lex should somehow be involved and I'm sure he can be integrated into this new film if it ever gets made, however, I think that for its time the first superman flicks were excellent, told an interesting story and captured superman as he was meant to be. Peoples complaints of Lex and the introduction of the character Otis is just that your looking at things from too much of a critical point of view, at the time, it worked, and even now I still find it humorous, but I agree, superman should be modernized along with a superbly intelligent and cunning Lex Luthor. But you have to admit Otisburg was hilarious.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 12:33 a.m. CST

    Well...

    by Jonny Quest

    It does sounds better than all the half-baked Death of Superman ideas we've been hearing for the last few years... but for me, the jury is still out. I'll wait & see. I just hope they can cast SOMEBODY who can embody Superman as wonderfully as Christopher Reeve did. I doubt they will (especially if they go with a name actor), but that's what I hope. And welcome back, Ambush Bug! Missed readin' your posts here!

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 12:54 a.m. CST

    This Sounds Intresting....

    by The Founder

    I hope WB pulls it together and not fuck up one of their best franchises. I wish for the love of GOD that some of you D0NKEY BUTTS stop suggesting BRENDAN FRAISER for THE MAN OF STEEL!!! don't get me wrong I like Fraiser,but Superman he ain't,so stop it before one of those mind numb suits over at Warners take notice. One question:Who in the hell is this JON PETERS? I hear umlimited ragging on this guy and since I was a little kid when the Superman movies were out I'd like to know what was his connection with the franchise. I'm smart enough to know that Jon Peters=BAD NEWS for old Big Blue. Come to think of it why is this guy even still connected to the Superman movies after nearly twenty years of the last one? I don't know that much about him, but if Warners still have him on board then there're not taking relaunching the franchise seriously.In order for Superman to work Warners is going to have to infuse the franchise with all new talent. I loved Donner's first two S-man movies, but the more I think of it he should'nt be involved in the new flick. Not because he's no good good,but his ideas may be outdated(again its been twenty years) and this is why new creative blood should be brought in.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 1:03 a.m. CST

    Casting Superman vs Lobo

    by Zachsmind

    Mia Farrow as Lobo. Diane Keaton as Superman. Woody Allen as Lois Lane. No really! Think about it!

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 1:32 a.m. CST

    Who can play Lobo?! CAN YOU SMEEEEELLL. . .

    by Sith Lord Jesus

    . . .WHAT THE ROOOOOCK. . .IS COOOOKIN!!!!! 'Nuff said on THAT subject. For the Man Of Steel His Badass Self: either Bruce Campbell or Dean Cain, suitably pumped up first, of course (and don't even start on me, Dean Cain-haters! He rocked as Superman). For Lois? Damn, ever since I saw a, er, certain scene from a certain movie which I downloaded from a certain person's web site, I haven't been able to get the vision of Jennifer Connelly's most perfect ass out of my fevered brain. But no, not her; alas she's all wrong for the part. Instead go with either Terri Hatcher or Courteney Cox or even an unknown. And of course, above all FOCUS ON THE SCRIPT. This thing has to be done with just the right balance of humor and seriousness--like SUPERMAN II--to avoid heading into the crapper.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 1:38 a.m. CST

    casting . . . again

    by Pseudonym

    I already posted this on the last talkback, but why not post it again? Superman--Paul Gross from Due South. Brendan Fraser looks way too goofy to play Superman. Lois Lane--Diane Lane. Owen Wilson as Jimmy Olsen works too. As Lobo, I see Macho Man Randy Savage--I'll never forget him as the Grey Ghost on Space Ghost Coast-to-Coast. Hilarious stuff, man. I never considered Billy Zane for Lex Luthor, but he could seriously do something with that role. And Lex Luthor had damn well better not have bumbling, stupid assistants like Otis and Ms. Teschmacher. Come on, this is Lex Freakin' Luthor. Would he honestly surround himself with bumbling incompetence and comic relief? He'd hand them their walking papers and their asses after their first screw-up. They need somebody like Mercy to be his assistant. She could even be played by someone like Michelle Yeo (sp?) so they can get the character's fighting skills right. Billy Zane and Michelle Yeo, now THAT'S a wicked duo. And that's all I have to say about that.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 2:12 a.m. CST

    Sugars! Why On EARTH Would You Post A Spoiler-Filled Batman Bey

    by Cowblaster

    I'm sick of people just having to spoil their hearts out on this movie. . . just to prove that they've seen the original version. Well, many of us, ESPECIALLY ME have NOT seen this movie yet, and would very much appreciate it if people like you would STOP SPOILING THE DAMN MOVIE IN PLACES WE'RE NOT LIKELY TO EXPECT!!!

  • I will only see the "Superman/Lobo Power Hour" movie, if, and ONLY IF, the "DUKES OF HAZZARD" make an appearance. Daisy Duke, especially. Oh, and throw in some "COP ROCK" music videos while your at it.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 2:18 a.m. CST

    Even Though Everyone And Their Dog Knows Superman's Origin Story

    by Cowblaster

    Just so we can be introduced to these versions of the already famous characters. Undoubtedly, whoever they get to play these parts will play them differently than we've seen before on film and television. I'm not saying this Lobo all-out brawl movie wouldn't work otherwise, just that it'd be much more comfortable that way. It wouldn't be a bad idea to go that way, right? Just have your plain-old Superman movie first; with good acting, a great story, and even better special effects, THEN give us all this popcorn action movie for the sequel! The Lobo vs. Superman movie would probably make MORE money that way, AND better complement the first movie at the same time! See? It WOULD make more sense!

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 2:24 a.m. CST

    Oh, for Christ's SAKE!!!!

    by Tender Branson

    Jesus, Harry of the fucking things you could've gotten behind and flogged like a crack whore, you gotta pick "Superman vs. Lobo"? I thought we already agreed that this was a stupid fucking idea, I mean what happened to that simple line of logic? It must've flown out the window when Warners sent you a "Superman vs. Lobo" cockring, huh? Oh well, another fine fucking superflick shot to shit. On another subject STOP WITH THE FUCKING BRUCE CAMPBELL BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What in the name of Jesus' sweaty sack has you fucking twits thinking he'd make a good Superman? Because once he had a chainsaw on his arm and said, "Groovy" alot? Or is it because the most you've seen of the great outdoors is in "Evil Dead" whilst suck immobile behind your 'puters, that soft, radioactive light the only thing sustaining your existence besides the unheated cans of Skettios your mom tosses you through the sliding tray in your door? Get a fucking grip! I know I usually say "I'm reserving judgement.", but you don't need a Magic Eight Ball to figure out this flick is going to suck harder than Monica Lewensky on angel dust. It's going to suck, but why am I not worried? It'll never get made. It'll go a bit in pre-production and then the suits will balk at the Billion dollars it'll take to do the flick, (100 million total prodution cost, 900 million to buy that island that Jon Peters wants for his sick, unholy genetic experiments to combine women with your common jackass and a bunny rabbit, so you'll have a chick who loves to fuck all the time as much as she likes carrying lots of heavy shit around all day. Wait, a second I'm describing Madonna. Anyway, I digress.) and it'll be shunted into development hell until someone gets the balls to do the "Death of Superman" storyline, thus creating a SOLID EVENT FLICK that will kickstart the series again. I'm right, you know I am.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 3:36 a.m. CST

    Franchise Launch

    by Pseudonym

    I haven't mentioned this before, but I do have to agree with the people that feel that this should be a second installment in the relaunched Superman franchise. The first one almost HAS to be an epic story involving characters the public knows (read as, villain Lex Luthor). If you toss out all this space mafia stuff and Lobo in the first one, you're hitting the public with a whole lot of stuff to swallow. Give 'em something to gnaw on that they're familiar with first. And please go a different way than Hackman's histrionic Lex Luthor. Luthor is more cunning than just a glossy, over-ambitious smooth talker. He's the man with the plan and five contingency plans. Let's aim for something a little better than a real estate swindle involving nuclear weapons. Luthor's a bit more low-key than that (man, I'm really on a Luthor rant tonight). And like I said before, no dim-witted sidekicks for Lex. As for who should star in this flick, see my previous post in this talkback.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 4:03 a.m. CST

    Lobo without dismembered bodies?

    by Symmo

    R rating (at least) here we come. You can get away with it in comics but not on the big screen without attracting the dreaded NC17 or R rating I can't see Warner paying big bucks to produce a more adult themed Superman movie, so if it does go ahead I can't see it being anything but tame...

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 6:09 a.m. CST

    Kidding right?

    by Scott Ridley

    Hollywood's lack of idea's has never been more apparent.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Luthor

    by gigolo aunt

    I think it's a safe bet that Lex will be in this movie.I mean if some alien mafia came to earth and needed a resource AND needed to get Supes out of the way, who would they talk to....Luthor of course.And being the consumate buisnessman that he is, he would gladly facilitate a deal for the resource in question.His fee, the defeat of Superman.Enter Lobo intergalactic hitman.On a side note, let's have a GL Corps cameo-please!

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 8:11 a.m. CST

    It won't happen

    by Publius Varrus

    I personally hate the Lobo character. As other posters have said, he's just a Wolverine in outer space. IF this movie ever got made, the Lobo character would be a one-off anyway, so it wouldn't be too bad. I agree with Harry that we need to see some real "Super" fight scenes, fast-paced with lots of damage, but if this ever gets made Lobo will have about as much in common with his comic persona as Bane did with his in "B&R"(blech).

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 8:26 a.m. CST

    ...

    by Wino Forever

    First of all, Lobo vs. Superman is still a ludicrous idea for a movie. Secondly, nothing about this piece of news suggests it's on the fast track to getting made. A treatment exists. Some Warner Bros. suits have glanced at it. Let's not start the countdown or the casting wet dream free-for-all just yet, you fucking geeks.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 8:38 a.m. CST

    lobo??? booo

    by Mike the Bill

    Lobo is a Wolverine wanabe! Groo could kick Lobo's behind from here to never-neverland. Well, at least Superman won't be fighting some human non-entity again.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Superman

    by TheRock

    I dunno, the whole 'Superman Vs like powered villain' has been done to death. Sure, it'd make a great popcorn flick but I doubt it would carry that much emotional weight. Just my two cents :)

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 10:41 a.m. CST

    The Right Superman

    by Jawad

    How come noone has suggested Patrick Warburton as Superman? (Elaine's ex-boyfriend in Seinfeld, bodyguard in Scream3, and the Tick in the new live series) He would be ideal and could play a serious superman, he has the right build, voice and mannerisms. He even did the voice of Superman for one of Seinfeld's American Express comercials.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Always

    by JediFunk

    Anybody see the SS movie Always with Rich Dreyfus and John Goodman? Don't you think the guy that Dreyfus ends up being an guardian angle for, would be a great new Superman? I think he looks the part very well.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Costumes???

    by TheTriad

    I didn't read all the REALLY long posts, but did anyone bring up costumes yet? For example, will Supes have a black leather outfit with the "S" outlined in yellow and strange padded sections? I hope it's more like John Shipp's Flash costume from that TV show (which was cool). Especially on a Bruce Campbell type actor. Make it blue and red and yellow! People will go see the movie!!! My personnal casting pick (prepare to mock me): Dolph Lungren, with his hair dyed black. You know he's a Rhoads Scholar, right? He's not the big dumb guy he portrays in Rocky IV!!! I think he just has the head, plus he's a big fella.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 11:15 a.m. CST

    JOSH BROLIN

    by Moonwalker

    JOSH BROLIN JOSH BROLIN JOSH BROLIN!!!! He is the man just waiting to play Superman.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 11:26 a.m. CST

    GL: Good idea, gigolo aunt

    by TheTriad

    When will there be a Green Lantern movie? Also, I was wrong about Dolph... he only has a Masters in chemical engineering.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Christopher Reeve as Superman

    by Rebel_Scum

    Two words: CGI legs. I really can't think of anyone who could do it better than Reeve... Pantera frontman Phil Anselmo should be Lobo. He's large, intimidating, and articulate. He's also hilarious. He would be in his element playing a blue collar, roughneck persona.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Not Another Slug-Fest

    by lycanthrope

    C'mon folks, we did that in Superman II - Lobo is a lame character (ya bastich) - I mean, I liked the animated ep with him but that was about 40 minutes for a two-parter... I don't want to see Supes fighting for 2 hours - give me a movie with some real drama, some intelligence. Here's an idea that is a staple in the Supes Universe that they COMPLETELY WASTED in Superman III - Superman split in two - evil Superman and good (human) Clark - how does Clark stop his super-powered self? Maybe he forges an alliance with Luthor - now THAT is a movie I put down money for! And forget Bruce Campbell - too campy and hammy - get an unknown for Superman... Lex? How about the guy that voices him on the cartoon? Casey someone, I think - he has acted in other fims, and has the right physique (Luthor is a big guy) - shave his head and you've got Lex... Lois, someone sexy, please! Margot Kidder was annoying as hell - they should have gone with Brooke Adams... How about the woman who played Jenny Calendar on Buffy the Vampire Slayer - she is hot hot hot...

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Billy Zane as Lex

    by Rebel_Scum

    While considering who should play Lex, Billy Zane was also the first person to come to my mind, too. If this movie gets the green light, hopefully the casting office will have the same idea.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Joel Silver and LOBO

    by -Porkins-

    This makes total sense. Joel Silver (at Warner Brothers) owns the rights to LOBO. It's been in somewhat active development, but not a high priority. Wonder what happens when you get joel and canton on the same set...

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 1:45 p.m. CST

    We already had a modernized Superman: Dean Cain

    by superninja

    The "sensitive" 90s Superman. Bleck! Nothing against Mr. Cain, but the character was written rather wussily. I was half expecting Lois to kick his ass at times.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Superman vs Luthor (that sounds much better)

    by superninja

    Might as well...I also like reintroducing the origin, and I'd really like to see him face off with Luthor in the first film. He won't ever fight Luthor hand-to-hand, and that's the beauty of it. It's almost like the Daredevil/Kingpin relationship. Daredevil can beat him in the costume, but not in a court of law. Luthor is sneaky in much the same fashion. Luthor OWNS Metropolis. But that's never been used to effect in a film. Why not draw a parallel between modern corporations with tentacles everywhere and Lexcorp? This is what forces Superman to learn to fight with something other than his strength. It's what makes Superman and Lex great -- they're constantly adapting to one another in a power struggle for Metropolis. There's temptation in Supes at times to lower himself to Luthor's standards just to kick the guy's ass, but he never takes the low road. It's what makes him super-cool and all too human and makes for a great story. ******Onto casting: SUPERMAN: I say an unknown, but if not I like Paul Gross, Tim Daly (looking pretty buff and foxy in The Fugitive!, not to mention the great voice), David James Elliot (JAG)-- please NO MORE BOY-MEN. LOIS LANE: I don't have a problem with changing Lois' ethnicity. How about Thandie Newton? Bridget Fonda? I just want someone who seems smart and sexy. LUTHOR: Billy Zane kind of overacts (Titanic). James Woods, maybe? Costas Mandylor looks like the cartoon Luthor, but man, is that Secret Agent show bad!

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Why, Thanks, Smoov Grunion.

    by Cowblaster

    Your "Gore hates fags" post brought this here Superman talkback the life in most desperatley needed. Why, I was just wondering when someone was going to post a politcal smear campaign in our discussion on the next Superman movie. And, now you've gone and done it! Keep up the good work!

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 4:06 p.m. CST

    No big names will fit the boots.

    by Rebel_Scum

    Dean Cain was never a very good Superman. The only outcome I can see right now is a disappointing miscast that won't come close to Reeve. Can you imagine a big name like Clooney trying to become Superman? It just won't work. I think that an unknown is the only way to go, even though playing the comic-movie-cast-guessing-game is always a lot of fun (a' la X-MEN). ***** Sleazy G, maybe you're right. But you don't have to be so sour. We're talking about Superman here. This is the stuff we grew up on and live for.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Lobo is a Wolverine Rip-Off

    by Barron34

    This is obviously an idea of the moment from Warner's. Lobo is basically DC/Warner's answer to Wolverine. Due to the very good success of X-Men and the great hit the Marvel movie character Wolverine made, Warner's is anxious to turn out a clone. Lobo is a rip-off (a very good one, I will admit) that should not follow on the heels of Marvel's Wolverine, but should perhaps be seen later. I agree that if Supes is portrayed onscreen again, Warner's really needs to mix it up, but Lobo is too much like Wolverine, in my opinion.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Lobo & The WRESTLING aesthetic

    by Judge Mental

    I'm not a big wrestling fan, but what I've seen definitely reminds of LOBO. Metal, chains, muscles, leather, long hair, rock & roll, growling, booze, cursing, ridiculous machismo, and of course, excessive violence. --THE ROCK, KEVIN NASH, and TRIPLE H would all be fine as The Main Man. And as far as acting ability, come on; Wrestlers already act like Lobo! (Just imagine Rock doing that eyebrow thing as Lobo.) -- This movie can't be any kind of graceful hero story; it has to be a goddamn intergalactic demolition derby! Vroom Vroom SMASH!!!

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Unless Peters gets fired right this very second, Giffen's story

    by KingKrypton

    Get Donner to produce this thing. He's the only producer I'd trust with Superman ay this point. As for Superman, enough witht he Patrick Warburton stuff. He's too cartoony and goofy. Bruce Campbell probably wouldn't be interested. Ron Eldard would be a far better choice,with a bit of hair dye and weight training. As for "choosing between the destruction of Krypton of the destruction of Earth." Krypton's already gone. It blew up when he was a baby. There's not much point in doing that kind of idea, is there? The depth of Superman is the fact that he can't save everyone and do everything despite his great powers, that the ideals he represents are mocked and denigrated by a superficial world, and that he can't save humanity from its inherent desire to destroy itself. That's what the movie should be about, not Peters' (or Tim Burton's for that matter) skewed concepts. Give us the classic Superman. As for the origin...do it in a pre-credit sequence. Everyone knows it already; we don't need to devote another whole movie to it.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Vin Diesel as Lobo?

    by boomzilla8

    Can anyone see it? he was pretty cool in pitch black

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Janeane Garofalo As Lois Lane? Are You NUTS?!

    by Cowblaster

    Sure, she's not some cry-baby like Margo or Teri, but her self-proclaimed attitude to hate just about every man on Earth just wouldn't fit. Plus, Janeane is just too ugly for the part. I'm sorry, I like her as a comedian, but she's not attractive in the least bit. Get a strong, smart HOT woman to play Lois Lane. I know it's sexist, but it's true.

  • Oct. 26, 2000, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Fuck...I don't know about this...

    by High King Fanboy

    ...I mean, they're re-introducing the idea of Superman to the public here. Not that he's completely dissappeared, but he's not seen silver screen treatment since the early '80s. If Warner Bros. wants to do a Lobo peice, great, but make sure Superman is at the forefront of peoples minds again. Personally, I loved Kevin Smith's draft of Superman Lives. It really gave us the Big Blue Boy Scout as he really is. I don't know about Lobo...an obscure (to the public in general) DC character first crack out of the box scares me. And if anyone wants a copy of Smith's Superman Lives, go to www.script-o-rama.com. Nice sight, and it' got some really neat stuff.

  • Oct. 27, 2000, 1:26 a.m. CST

    "Macho Man" Randy Savage as Lobo!

    by Fluffy da Bunny

    Randy Savage as Lobo! I think he'd be great for the role. His voice is always what I picture in my head as what Lobo sounds like when I read the books.My two cents, for what it's worth.

  • Oct. 27, 2000, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Snap into a Slim Jim

    by kymedicineman

    **OH YEAH** I agree with the bunny

  • Oct. 27, 2000, 2:58 p.m. CST

    This won't happen, but....

    by expendable48

    This won't ever happen, but I would frigging love to see Rob Zombie as Lobo. Don't tell me you can't see it. Also, I'm gonna hafta agree on the Green Lantern flick.

  • Oct. 28, 2000, 9:46 a.m. CST

    BORING!

    by QuizKidDonnie

    I can't see this movie getting made, and I think I'd probably like it a lot better as a cartoon anyway. Not that anybody asked me mind you, but I want the world to know that I hates me some Lobo! God he's a stupid ass character! And that's saying something when it's a DC character. Anyway I thought this talkback was getting boring, and now I'm being boring. Sorry.

  • Oct. 28, 2000, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Janeane G

    by QuizKidDonnie

    By the way, Janeane Garofolo is a lot HOTTER than she is politically correct or intelligentsa-ish. She's a highbrow who learned to pluck her eyebrow. and her ASS would make Teri Hatcher a Sunday FACE right about now.

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