Oct. 19, 2000, 8:59 a.m. CST
by Michael Cheritto
Well, who's on T.V. and who's still a faceless nobody? Harry is too good to respond? I don't know? He does run the site. Right? And are you paid for what you do? Or does this work fall under the second job you wished was your first? I don't get it. This Time Machine script sounds great. But I don't know if I can stand the tears at someone being in the shadow of Harry. Who cares.
Oct. 19, 2000, 9:01 a.m. CST
I'm a huge fan of the book, maybe that's why I can already feel the disappointment mounting. The book literally changed the way I saw people and the world. The true nature of the connection between the Eloi and the Morlocks is so incredibly tragic, but so disturbingly ... human. If you've read the book, you know what I'm talking about. Wells wasn't just writing a ripping sci-fi yarn, it was a statement about human nature - the awful things that we do to each other in the name of God or superstition or what have you. My fear is that the director is going to get so caught up in the potentially stunning visuals and special effects that he's going to forget the main point of the story, which is that the journey the Traveler takes is not just a journey through time ... it's also a journey to the darkest places of the human spirit. Or that he'll just lightly tread over them in that typical Hollywood fashion. The fact of the matter is that this is not a happy story. It has some difficult things to say. And maybe Hollywood, Steven Spielberg's people in particular, don't have the balls to tell it the right way. Don't get me wrong, "Schindler's List" was great, but it wasn't the movie it should have been. And if Spielberg hands this project to some kid fresh off of the latest Britney Spears video ... well, let's just say the movie might be a box office success, but the soul of the novel would have been lost. To say nothing of the casting of Val Kilmer as the Traveler. I'd boycott it on that basis alone.
Oct. 19, 2000, 9:03 a.m. CST
This flick sounds cool though.
Oct. 19, 2000, 9:24 a.m. CST
THIS IS PATHETIC! THE ORIGINAL STANDS ON ITS OWN MERRIT! The original story the character Wells created was only know as the "Time Traveler." Very cool to name him "H. George Wells" in the movie. Let's just name the guy "Bobo Belinsky: Time Traveler, Extrordinaire", put in Brittany Spears as "Weena", Hughie Long and Michael Duncan as intelligent, Shakespeare speaking "Morlocks" and John Vernon as "The Mayor." Don't forget the sequel: "Time Machine II: Electric Boogaloo" with Ice T as "Mack Traveler: Pimp Master Of Time."
Oct. 19, 2000, 9:25 a.m. CST
Yeah I was thinking the same thing too. Especially after our thoughts about Bamboozled a few days back... sucks.
Oct. 19, 2000, 9:25 a.m. CST
That moon scene is an absolute must see
Oct. 19, 2000, 9:32 a.m. CST
by Solomon Kane
It's very hard to upstage a classic such as Pal's time machine. It is too well entrenched in the minds of science fiction fans. I'll see it, like most everyone else, to compare it to the original and to check out the special effects. But I can't see it out-doing the original for pure imagination. No way.
Oct. 19, 2000, 9:37 a.m. CST
THE TIME MACHINE has always been a favorite story of mine. I've read the book, seen the flick, even picked up a bad mid-70s paperback "sequel" someone penned, in which the Time Traveler's son goes on his own misadventures in an effort to save the lives of his parents. (Cheesy as it sounds, I recall that it was pretty good stuff for a teen paperback.) And am I on crack, or does anyone else remember a made-for-TV version in the 80s, possibly starring Lee Horsley as the Time Traveler and... I want to say Cassiopeia from GALACTICA as Weena? Anyway, I'm always up for a retelling of this marvelous story, and it sounds like a promising script, from Moriarty's praise. Keep the news on this one coming, Old Master!
Oct. 19, 2000, 9:37 a.m. CST
calm down guys you haven't even read the script and you assume it should be soemthing with Britney Spears. Some of the things Moriarty said sounded promising especially about the Morlock and Eloi relationship. If its a good piece of fiction that is challenging isn't that important. It sounds like it says something and isn't a Godzilla or Lost in Space.
Oct. 19, 2000, 9:51 a.m. CST
by Darkwing Duck
Oct. 19, 2000, 9:59 a.m. CST
First off, I LOATHED the Prince of Egypt. One of the greatest stories of all time denied the presence of FAITH and GOD (why was no form of the name of God never spoken? didn't want to offend any religious group...)- Moses was a whiny brat who never once felt like he had the power of God behind him- he needed reassurance THE WHOLE WAY. And then to deny Moses' descent from teh mountain. This can't be the same guy touching Wells' classic. I just read and wrote a paper on TIME MACHINE, book vs. movie (Pal). I understood that changing times forced the filmmakers to try and update it- in this case Atomic Age fears. But the expanation for the Eloi /Morlock conflict is inexcuseable: The MORLOCKS were the SURVIVORS who went underground- and subsequently mutated into beasts, while the Eloi were the people who remained on the surface and became a hippie colony. The whole theme of humanity's regression was lost in the process, and the human nature inherent in the Morlock was lost the second they were nothing more than cannibalistic beasts. Most people above hit the nail on the head: Have Harry or Moriarty read the book, or just seen the movie (there's precedence in the former at least)? The novel worked on the basis that the Time Traveler (Wells was a genius: no name- the character's immeadiately alienated from society as a result) was the embodiment of the Victorian Age's drive for scientific discovery, not some genius who needs a loved one's death as a catalyst for discovery. More grating, the ELOI WERE NEVER DEDICATED TO THE ARTS- they were the aristocratic upper class who oppressed the working class who, as a result of inactivity, "evolved" into dumb cattle for the morlock. They embodied the decaying Arcadia around them as relics of an age whil the Morlock were a product of the industrial age who embraced technology. This ferocious class consumed the Eloi who were incapable of accepting the advancement of technology. In the book, the Morlock are more human than the Eloi- the narrator simply cannot allow himself to relate to them because they do not look human. The Eloi were also childlike in their simplicity and appearance- not the beach blanket bimbos that the Pal film gave us. The book has striking scenes I hope make it into the movie: The symbolic fire that burn down the forest, and quite possiblt the greatest and most pivotal scene in the book: The hall in the Porcelain Museum (the last bastion of knowlegde in this time, itself in slow decay) which contains all teh machinery throughout the ages. As the time traveller slowly walks through looking at man's progression, he is unaware that the floor slowly slopes downward, leading to the black darkness of the underground in which the morlock live. Most beautiful, he was inadvertently following the footsteps in teh dust coating teh ground- footsteps which belonged to the moorlocks. A scene of such splendid beauty and meaning are sometimes beyond the scope of modern film, and I shudder to think of any happy ending in the place of Wells' Twilight of the Earth in the novel. It's a magnificent book, only about 75 pages, and considered the first modern science fiction novel. I hope this movie does it justice.
Oct. 19, 2000, 10:15 a.m. CST
Wasn't Vox the name of the andriod in Logan's Run. I do not remember any character named Vox in the original Welles book or the Pal film. Does Moriarty have his 'dead at thirty' pictures confused? They are also working on a remake of Logan's Run.
Oct. 19, 2000, 10:16 a.m. CST
At least you haven't missed Ian Brown 5 times...
Oct. 19, 2000, 10:46 a.m. CST
John Beck, "Moonpie" in "Rollerball" and "Shoulders" in "The Big Bus"(Love that movie!) portrayed the Time Traveler. What a crock the story was! Wells was probably spinning in his grave over this yock-fest! It had the Time Traveler going back into the past during the time of the Pilgrims(!!!), then proceeding into the future where the Morlocks carried Caylum sticks(Those sticks that glow in the dark green when you break them.) that paralized you when touched with them. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I still think my idea of "MACK TRAVELER-PIMP MASTER OF TIME" with Ice T would be a better hit. Mack T- "Yo, yo, yo, my little Morlock bitches, Mack Traveler has arrived and I'm ready to open up a can of whup-ass all over you! Music by Coolio. Brittany Spears, Lucy Liu, Maria Carey and Jennifer Lopez as "Mack Traveler's" ho's, Corey Feldman as the leader of the Eloi and John Vernon as "The Mayor."
Oct. 19, 2000, 11:32 a.m. CST
I don't know if a lot of people know this, but Simon Wells is actually H.G. Wells grandson - that is one of the reasons why he is so passionate about filming the Time Machine. I work at DreamWorks Animation, so I can assure you this is true. Just thought you might find that interesting!
Oct. 19, 2000, 11:41 a.m. CST
by B A Fett
Can't wait for this one to get made. The moon crashing into the Earth -- cool, I can picture it already.
Oct. 19, 2000, 12:03 p.m. CST
Hal-Solo said it best. the book is amazing, full of great imagery and symbolism. it's one of my favs. the original film is so-so...i honestly don't understand why so many people LOVE this movie. it's good, but not great. for one, and maybe this is just me, the eloi seem...well...like a bunch of college kids (it makes sense considering that's who played them)...which in the book they are obviously not...maybe i'm just a welles purist. (also, do they HAVE to speak english in the movie? the language barrier was something that had to be overcome in the book. i honestly don't think anyone will be speaking english in 800,000 years.) anyway, the re-make could be good. i have my reservations...but we'll see. and like some others have said...the moon crashing thing sounds damn cool. >>--Bilbo
Oct. 19, 2000, 12:31 p.m. CST
Oct. 19, 2000, 12:31 p.m. CST
LOGAN'S RUN... another one that should NOT be remade, IMO. Love that flick!
Oct. 19, 2000, 1:03 p.m. CST
...he's getting a BIG FUCKING PAYCHECK FOR THE RIGHTS!
Oct. 19, 2000, 1:23 p.m. CST
But then, they don't speak for us!
Oct. 19, 2000, 1:30 p.m. CST
no matter how the good the script is, it still needs a good director to bring it to the screen. This story is about nothing less than the decline of humanity and his civilization-- can such a morose film be made in this day in age, especially if it's being made by large studio that wants to make something for a summer release? I'm not saying it can't be done. But its not likely, considering the enviroment Hollywood's in right now.
Oct. 19, 2000, 1:32 p.m. CST
by marla singer
Oct. 19, 2000, 1:39 p.m. CST
I have some reservations about this film on several levels. First off, I agree that the story will not get the treatment that it deserves. On the other side, it can't. There were many levels that existed in Well's fiction that just can't be related to mainstream society. If this is to be done, it can't be done big-budget. Hollyweird can't accept the tragic or thought-provoking ending. What is John and Mary public going to say, when the traveler goes through all of that and finally gets to the end of his travel and finds that the only two remaining life forms on an earth with a red dwarf in its sky are a blob creature and a crab-thing? Wells told his stories on many levels and his political views permeated much of his fiction (Having just finished When The Sleeper Wakes.). Unfortunately, no one wants to see the commentary on the political evils of the world done to a SF beat. They just want to see the girls in the tight, short skirts, falling all over and out of their clothing and the big bohunkus guy beating the crap out of some monster or bad guy. Now that I think of it, there have been so few films where Time Travel has been used creatively or effectively. Usually it's a cheap vehicle to promote some crappy plot line within an already useless story, or an excuse to tell a story that no one wants to hear. If I see another Star Trek film or episode (Except for the Tribbles Episode on DS9) using time travel, I'm going to kill something many times in various ways. Other than the original Time Machine film (Only good because of when it was made and it was at the time, the closest thing to the book. Everyone else has failed since.), The Christopher Reeve film (I think that it was mentioned on this list section.), a particular Outer Limits (Classic) episode or any episode of the Time Tunnel (LOL). Time travel has been ill-used by the film and television industry. Pretty special effects, I fear, will not save this one either. I think that I'll go back in time and see a Dolemite or a Seka film again. On high, looking down from orbit, over you all, I'm... KragShot and I'm...out!
Oct. 19, 2000, 1:57 p.m. CST
some good points...by the way the Reeves time travel I believe was based on a Richard Matheson book (he RULES!!).... and what would you say about Frequency? That was a nice little time travel story in a Sixth Sence kind of way. I think ANYTHING can be done well with a good script, it is just a matter of if the people involved DO actually care and if Hollywood will crush them. I would love to see a 'deep' science fiction film sneak out in the guise of summer fare...
Oct. 19, 2000, 2:01 p.m. CST
(The following was scene as captured by a Shit Probe Droid) (Two Talkbackers, one tall and one short, are urgently running through a desolate, desert-like website) "Master Bar Gan Binn, slow down, I can't keep up...I don't have a high speed connection..." (Bar Gan Binn looks behind them and sees a black hooded figure racing towards them on a machine) "Avikin, DROP!" (The powerless talkbacker falls to the ground. The hooded figure flies off the machine and immediately begins flaming Binn.) "You are a worthless User of this site...why don't you go back to picking lint out of your navel?" "I demand to know who you are! You're probably a fatass loser under that black hood and robe, wearing clothes that are loose to hide your gargantuan caboose!" "Your feeble rhymes suck and have no effect, Jonny Cockring!" "Avikin, tell them to log off!" (Bar Gan Binn trades "You suck"s with the hooded figure until at the last moment, his fellow talkbackers swoop in and link him to another site.) "What was it?" "I'm not sure, Obi War, but my guess is that it was after Chancellor Knowles. We should be patient." (By the way, the two hooded guys are intrigued by the possibilities with a time-travel movie that does not have skateboard chase scenes and John Cleese talking about men's nipples...which is not say that comedy and time travel cannot successfully mix.)
Oct. 19, 2000, 2:28 p.m. CST
The Prince of Egypt was one of the most intelligent mainstream animated films ever - better than the increasingly dire stuff that Disney keep churning out. Anyway, not sure about this one - loved the original for all its dodgy effects and I seem to remember it have a wonderful soundtrack. As long as they retain the building sense of amazement, as he slips further and further into the future, and your wondering what he'll be running into at each trip. I'm never a big fan of remakes but i'm interested in this one. Oh, and which way to the bar??
Oct. 19, 2000, 2:33 p.m. CST
And let's teranspose the action from London to Buttfuck, Alabama.
Oct. 19, 2000, 3:02 p.m. CST
These guys couldn't be less funny if they were recycling Foster Brooks schtick at a family reunion in Lubbock.
Oct. 19, 2000, 3:23 p.m. CST
by Regis Travolta
With Britney Spears as her lesbian lovergirl wow that I'd pay to see! Naturally I'd get the part of the Time Traveler. Sounds like the script is visual as hell and as for Simon Wells he is the great grandson of H.G. Wells.
Oct. 19, 2000, 3:41 p.m. CST
first of all, Hollywood will fuck this up (i.e. The Haunting), the 79 flick Time after Time is good, dated horribly, but still good, and the book sucks. The movie version is perhaps one of the FEW instances, where it's a good thing the script was alterted from the book. While H.G. had great ideas, at the time he was known as a hack, Verne was the master.
Oct. 19, 2000, 4:18 p.m. CST
"Why was no form of the name of God never spoken?" Where were you at the Burning Bush scene? "I AM WHO I AM." It doesn't get more divine-namey than that, pal. Besides, as long as the characters are speaking English, it makes sense to use the common English translation "LORD" (in caps, small caps if you have 'em) for the divine name (as in "Thus says the LORD"). So it's there. * * * "Moses was a whiny brat who never once felt like he had the power of God behind him- he needed reassurance THE WHOLE WAY." Did we see the same movie? You didn't see faith at the Red Sea, with the upraised staff? You didn't see faith in the stern, ubiquitous prophet who's everywhere Pharaoh turns during the "Thus Saith the Lord" plague montage? You didn't see faith in the man who stood stock-still in the shallows of the Nile as armed soldiers came to cut him down just before he turned the water to blood? Besides, the Moses of Exodus doubted and needed reassurance too. * * * "And then to deny Moses' descent from teh mountain" WHAT ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT? Do you think the movie implies Moses stays UP on the mountain after the closing credits? Perhaps you mean that the film skipped over the FIRST descent from the mountain, when the people were worshipping the golden calf, and went right to the second descent. Uh, can you say "conflation"? Like, this is already way too much story for one movie, the movie is over, let's show Moses the lawgiver and get on with it? * * * This was a brilliant work of animation and a faith-affirming film. The visionary, nightmarish hieroglyphic sequences alone, where it is revealed to Moses the horrible slaughter of innocents which he survived, is a masterstroke of animated art, and the parting of the Red Sea is one of the greatest sequences in all of cinematic history. THE PRINCE OF EGYPT is a great film.
Oct. 19, 2000, 4:20 p.m. CST
Actually, the Time Machine is public domain, so Simon Wells won't get any money for the rights. But it is good to know that the facts never stand in the way of a good cynical response!
Oct. 19, 2000, 4:52 p.m. CST
We should remake "Citizen Kane." Seriously. Then we'll write a movie about punk little b****es who whine about re-makes being the bane of the earth. I'm willing to star in and direct both.
Oct. 19, 2000, 5:58 p.m. CST
I guess Wells' vision of a utopian/socialist society fits pretty good with his descendants if his works are public domain. On the other hand, Edgar Rice Burroughs' family seems to raking in the dough everytime someone gets a hard-on for one of Burroughs' creations. I'm taking my "Mack Traveler-Pimp Master Of Time" over to Roger Corman and see if he'll make it. Can't be any worse than that abortion, "Black Scorpion."
Oct. 19, 2000, 6:08 p.m. CST
by All Thumbs
"The Time Machine" is one of those movies that, to me, is so good in part because of it's dated campiness. There's something magical about seeing the 60's filmed as the apocolypse and a cheesy blinking light time machine taking a man on the journey. Nothing will ever replace the mannequin in the window, either. I loved how Wells (the movie Wells) marveled at the way women's skirts kept getting shorter and shorter. Classic scene. Does anyone remember when Joe Bob Briggs showed "Time Machine" on Monstervision. *sniff* Damn, I miss that show.
Oct. 19, 2000, 6:23 p.m. CST
They played the ACC on Tuesday and I missed that one. Damnit, why are they doing a small venue tour anyway? Oh well, at least I got to listen to half of it online. . .
Oct. 19, 2000, 8:55 p.m. CST
Damn Harry, you spend so much time making fun of Moriarty ... GO LOOK IN THE MIRROR!!!!
Oct. 19, 2000, 10:44 p.m. CST
Oct. 19, 2000, 10:55 p.m. CST
I'm voting for Pat Paulsen, absentee ballot, of course.
Oct. 20, 2000, 3:44 a.m. CST
Can someone tell me the need to Americanise this story? Does it mean that Americans will not go to see it if it remains in London? I am sure that US audiences would not boycott it just because it was not set in New Yawlk with all the lovely boids in Central Pwark. Hell, if people rushed to see Lock Stock and Snatch, then that proves it doesn't have to be set in America. Why the need to even remake a classic like this is beyond me. War of the Worlds was set in the USA, this proves an exception to the rule as that film was fantastic, yet I can't help wonder what it would have been like if it was set in and around London in the late 19th century. Get Carter is another "what was the point of that". Why does Hollywood insist on remaking and relocating classic films? We will have the Sound of Music set in the Appalaichans next, cross between Deliverance and Les Miserables.
Sept. 26, 2007, 12:44 p.m. CST
by just pillow talk
Let's see here...<a href="http://www.aintitcool.com">Test which will fail I'm sure</a>
Sept. 26, 2007, 12:45 p.m. CST
by just pillow talk
My diesel run time machine is much more efficient and I don't run into that pesky Morlock problem, eh Orcus?
May 22, 2008, 3:27 a.m. CST
...is the best 'Time Machine'/H.G.Wells based movie. Infact i'm going to watch it again right now. McDowall and Warner are feckin' ace.