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CORRECTION: Arnold Notes: DOC SAVAGE & T3
Hey folks, Harry here with a report from... ABKing about.. nope... not Stallone... yup, that's right... AHNULDT!!! Let it be known from the highest bell tower in the land... there is a finished draft in existence for DOC SAVAGE!!! That script... I want in a really bad way. I'm a HUGE Doc Savage fan. In fact... in the far corner of my room... right above my Raiders of the Lost Ark poster is my Ron Ely personality poster from the George Pal DOC SAVAGE film.... which, while misguided and clumsy... I saw it as a kid and felt it had TONS of charm. Now... here's AB...
Harry,
Arnold made comments to the LA Times and he talked about why THE 6TH DAY is
rated PG-13. The LA Times also had this to say about DOC SAVAGE and T3:
Arnold, who is currently at work on Collateral Damage, will be moving over
to Terminator 3 in March. He's also got the Doc Savage project on his plate.
As far as the latter project is concerned, Arnold told the Times that the
script by David Leslie Johnson, Frank Darabont and Chuck Russell is a lot
like Raiders of the Lost Ark. Time will tell.
This is great news. Maybe we will see T3 and Doc Savage in 2002.
ABking
Hey folks, Harry here.. the above is... of course what you read earlier... well, it turns out that AB KING did not correctly attribute from whence his information came. Let it be known that it came from LA TIMES, but then by way of CINESCAPE and the capable hands of Frank Kurtz... who wrote below...
Harry,
Though the story about Arnold Schwarzengger originally appeared in the LA Times, which I cited in my story, the following paragraph, sent to you by AB King was written by me:
"Arnold, who is currently at work on Collateral Damage, will be moving over to Terminator 3 in March. He's also got the Doc Savage project on his plate. As far as the latter project is concerned, Arnold told the Times that the script by David Leslie Johnson, Frank Darabont and Chuck Russell is a lot like Raiders of the Lost Ark. Time will tell."
Address it as you see fit.
Thanks,
Frank Kurtz
Cinescape ONline News Editor
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Arnie better hurry up and get these made, cause it looks his body has gave up, I mean he still looks good for a guy his age, but he ain't no action hero anymore. All those years PUMPING IRON have taken their toll.
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He'll really need to direct this if it plans on working at all...well, maybe not just him I guess, bnut they'll need someone high profile if the script is as ass as we're hearing...this is not a franchise to mess with...
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Doc Savage. Boy, do I have high hopes! I don't know 'bout T3, though... Gotta be one amazing script!
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Well T3 might be one bad idea, but at least Ridley Scott is a capable director. Let's not forget that both Roland Emmerich and Christian Duguay were in the running for the director chair. The former having masterminded classy films like Universal Soldier and Godzilla. If the script is any good it might end up a good film, although I would prefer this film to not be made at all.
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Forget about Doc Savage.... Arnold should be working on getting Crusade made, as well as Conan the King.
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In response to 00Uncle Fucka's question, yes, in real life we are past the deadline when Judgment Day was supposed to have taken place. I haven't read any scripts and/or spoilers regarding this new sequel, but couldn't it very well take place after the war. Or maybe the war didn't happen, as was indicated as a possibility at the end of T2, or presented as a certainty if you watch the original cut.
Besides, a movie doesn't have to take place in the same year that it is released. T2, released in 1991, took place in 1994. -
It's about fucking time Arnie got back into some action. It has been lame on the action scene without both him & Stallone.(Ben Affleck in Reindeer games? The only thing I want to see goood old Ben do with a gun is shoot himself!)Now that Sly's new movie is out(& pretty good too)mabey Arnie can start kickin ass again. I just hope he dosnt take any piece of shit out there(End Of Days)just to see himself back on screens.
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This sounds good. Ridley, Arnold... has anyone heard about the new Conan flick?
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He's too old, and he's got that corny accent. Bring on Dave Morse as Doc Savage, and let's forget about Mr. S, shall we?
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Conan was one of his best roles ever just because of sheer physicality, and now he's improved his acting talents to add some depth to the Conan saga. This could be his swan song, but will he do it? Nope...
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Make Kindergarden Cop II. Just wondering what those cute preschoolers are up to now?? Oh ya, they must be in their teens. Now I don't care anymore.
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David Morse as Doc Savage would be fuckin' brilliant casting. Why is this talented actor relegated to supporting roles is beyond me. Morse is the right age to play the part. He is physically imposing. And most importantly, HE CAN ACT! Superninja, you should've been a casting director.
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I think Dave Morse is just amazing. He's one of my favorites and I'd love to see him get a great action role. He was the best part of the Green Mile for me, which actually turned me on to the idea of him playing Doc and I truly believe he could carry a film.
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Morse was also the most "Human" character in CONTACT.
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"...Then we could get a far superior actor in this movie, like Dolph Lundgren..."
I suppose you're kidding, man.
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I personally think that while 1984 saw new ground broken in story type i.e. a film that had somewhere to go, beyond it's end. This was proved ten- fold in T2, as the story of Sarah Connor was developed. Now years later she became the soldier trying to save the future. However, the new Terminator movie would not have the Direct involvement of James Cameron. Now is it just me, but if your'e going to have a new Terminator movie Staring The Austrian Oak.... Who let's face it is not in the Physical condition he was in 5 - 10 years ago ( nasty scar from a heart op and the slimmed down Physique) If you don't have Cameron, then you don't have the design or creativity that Cameron brings to a movie. Bottom Line..... If it aint Cameron Terminator flick, It's just Arnie cashing in on past glory to save his carrear. Period. T2 3D was the next best thing to T3..... leave it that way, at least Cameron directed that one.
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Oct 11, 2000 3:36:11 PM CDT
Supeninja is right on both points. Arnold NEEDS to do King Cona
by elros20
Not only would King Conan be the perfect thing for Arnold's career, it would make a lot of Conan fans extremely happy. We just don't get much in the way of that genre showing up in movies and if done properly, King Conan could be Arnold's greatest movie ever. -
But I do like to give credit where credit is due. When you think about euro stars like Arnold, Jean-Claude and yes Dolph, Dolph can at least lose the accent. Not an easy thing to do,especially if you are Arnold or J-C. Seems I have read somewhere that he has a Masters in chemical engineering and was a Fulbright Scholar. Does this make him a great actor? Certainly not, but I do agree with SLEAZY_G that if I had to chose between them, Dolph would be the better Doc.
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I could write a witty and scathing comment here but why bother, i'm just an Arnold fan. This is an open invitation to all those who continually slag of Arnold "come and have a go if you think your hard enough!" Please form an orderly queue and i will dispense each of you with a single punch last boy scout style.
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"Something about how'd ob the goons while he dismounts the shadow marching or something. Did you get it, Monk?" "I think he wants us to hold up the goons while he demonstrates the chowder making and stops the New Corn. Right, Renny?" "That fucking accent of his! Why would he want us to hold up the goons? We're crimefighters!" "Maybe he's trying to raise money for one of our futuristic science experiments." "Doc may talk funny these days, but he'd never resort to armed robbery." "I think he wanted us to hot foot the goons while he demanhoods the cattle mating and stuffs the new guy." "How can we hot foot the goons when they're charging our position? Fellas, we'd better hold off these goons." "Boy, I sure hope Doc finishes that other stuff in time to dismantle the Shatter Machine." "Yeah, and after that, only he can stop the New Khan!"
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Oct 11, 2000 5:25:39 PM CDT
"Suhrenduh, Lohd Plazenpy! Mein men hab your island suhrounded
by buzz maverik
"What? I can't understand a word you're saying, my dear Savage." "I said gib id ob, Plazenpy!" "The name is Blazenby, old boy. Lord Blazenby to you. And as far as me getting it up, that's none of your business and rather blue for '30s characters like us, don't you think? Lads, unleash the Constrict-o-net on Doctor Savage!"
"Jour lahds are temborarily indisbosed, Plazenby!" "Again, Savage, that Jerry accent of yours leaves me lacking. Rocco! Yassair! I gave you an order!" "Rocco und Yassair hab gone kerplunkt!" "Oh, you knocked them out. Awfully unsporting of you, my Hun friend." "I am ein master ob der mystehrious und unknown Oriendal combat techniques ob kahrahte und chudo. I am ein block belt." "You're a what? Never mind, Savage. You're a dead man once I fire this missle pistol!" -
Oct 11, 2000 5:31:32 PM CDT
"Cohzuhn Paht! Crawl onder der elektro -beam und trip der switch
by buzz maverik
...vun, den, vour, vive, vun, tree..." "I'm under the electro-gate, Cousin Clark, but what about a tree?" "Dumkofpt! If you don't trip der schwitches cohrecktly, I vill be elektrocuted." "Yeah, right. I'll bet I have to trip these switches to prevent you from being electrocuted." "Dat's vat I just zaid, you adoleschent fool! Id must be done right. Vun, den, vour ..." "One then four---" "Arrrrrrgh! Iiiiieeeeee. Schweinhund bitch! Auuuuugggghhhh!"
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Oct 11, 2000 5:32:32 PM CDT
Aw quit pickin' on Arnold! He's a prisoner of his celluloid imag
by regis travolta
You guys still like the big lug you just don't want to admit it. You'll all be in line to see T3 and DS opening weekend and you know it. Indy20.com is a fansite for the re-release of Raiders of the Lost Ark next May, go there today and enjoy memories of the original and best adventure ever.
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As the great Bill Goldman wrote, nobody knows anything. It's impossible to tell what will be a hit and what will be a dud (well, I think *mostly* impossible, Sliver et al could be seen as tanks from a mile off). Godfather went through a dozen writers (sure sign of a flop!) and was plagued by uncertainty... and became a hit, much to everyone's surprise. There are so daggum many elements, all of which must be perfect, to make a great film. How can you predict how a script will be handled? Will the acting be right on? Will the direction and score and marketing and costumes and makeup and even foley be on the mark? So many, many elements. So nobody knows, not until it's all finished.
Plus one more thing. As an amerature scribe who knows a lot of other amerature scribes I can sure tell you that when you're involved in a project you can't help but get too close... you lose your perspective and just can't tell what works anymore. I'd imagine the same is true for directors et al... sure, an outside observer could tell Godzilla was gonna be a tank, but I'll bet the people involved just couldn't be sure, because they too were too close to the project and lacked perspective.
That's just the way the cookie crumbles.
"Be the ball. Na-na-na-na-na-na."
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Oct 11, 2000 7:45:39 PM CDT
Watch the director's cut DVD of Conan the Barbarian for the most
by lshb
SPOILER: Right before the big dune-fight with Doom, he and subotai sit around talking about blueberries. It's true.
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I realize I'm in the minority here, but I have next to NO interest in seeing a third Terminator movie. Really, is there any more story to be told there? No, only more money to be made, which is the only reason that anyone is even considering a T3 project. I'd rather just skip over the inevitable disappointment and get to the Doc Savage movie. That could REALLY kick butt if cast correctly and done in the right spirit, and I hate that it looks like a 2 year wait before I can see it.
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Didn't we all know that Arnold's body was going to go one of these days? I've been a fan of Arnold's as long as I can remember. I think that T3 is a horrible idea but if it keeps Arnold from "acting" (ie End of Days), then make the damn film. Wasn't John Conner supposed to be 10 years old in T2 (1984-1994)? Doesn't anyone else find it odd that he was in his mid teens? I guess it is yet another of those "holes" in the Terminator series that just doesn't make sense. I haven't seen the Conan Coll. Ed. dvd, but I thought I heard that Arnold said he was going to make a third Conan film. Make that son of a bitch an epic with battles the size of Bravehearts'.
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it's true... Batman 3, Superman 3, Naked Gun 3, The Crow 3, Alien 3, Jaws 3, Rambo 3, Godfather 3, Robocop 3, and Scream 3... granted some Part 3's are pretty fucking good ALA Die Hard 3, Lethal Weapon 3, and Indiana Jones 3... but still for the most part this is how it goes......
a movie is made, it mainly introduces the characters and let's you get to know them... then the sequel to the movie is made and it's where the real action is, you know the characters you know the attitudes so now theres nothing left to do but get into it real nasty like... and this usually works(Aliens, Superman 2, Godfather 2, Lethal Weapon 2, RAMBO: First Blood 2, etc...) and it sometimes doesn't work(Batman Returns, Scream 2, The Crow 2, etc...) but 8 out of ten times a third installment is released it's bad.. stinky poo bad... and even worse is the fact that for Terminator 3 is that james cameron is gone in every possible way and it's being made even after James Cameron satisfied everyone and virtually ended the franchise with Terminator2... so it's obvious that this movie will Suck badly... not to mention AHNOLD wants to get back into action movies at the age of my Grandfather! he could still kick my ass around the corner and he could still kick everyone in this talkbacks ass.. but he certainly can't kick the asses of 40 government agents or 50 terrorists.. thats like just not believable in this current state of time.. now don't get me wrong i still like arnold and i am one of the few people that liked End of Days, a 5 out of 10 on the Deac rating system... and The 6th Day looks pretty cool on an action meter AHNOLD sorta way(like the plot of total recall made sense!) but it's just inevidable that T3 will suck... sorry but it will.. i'll definatly wait till it's on at the, "Just A Couple A'Bucks Cinema" -
David Morse seems like an interesting possibility for Doc Savage. Not *real* familiar with the actor, but he did solid work in his sappy role in "Contact", and the same in "Green Mile". I've mentally excised "The Rock" from my mind, so I can't comment on that. In any case, clearly a good actor with the potential to really *become* the character in audience's minds because he
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Doc Savage is a genius. Arnold cannot play "genius"!
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Oct 12, 2000 3:23:03 AM CDT
Yeah, I can see Arnold lobotomizing baddies left and right.
by andy travis
Isn't that what Doc Savage did in the pulps? Surgically remove the "evil" in the brain, or something? I can see it now...Arnold, sweat on his brow, as he performs brain-surgery on an unconscious criminal in an alley...
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OK, I know he died in the original Terminator, but they're gonna make this movie without Cameron so why don't they just go wild and slide good old Kyle Reese back in there. Maybe Reese should have another chance to shoot-out with Schwarzenegger, I mean the Tech-Noir scene in The Terminator was so cool (as was the car chases)
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As I see it, the only T3 that would be possible (or interesting) is one set during the future war. (I know, I know, paradoxes galore, but if Skynet isn't created/defeated then T1 doesn't happen and John Connor is never born, right?) For those who have read the T2 screenplay, there is an omitted scene in which the resistance goes into Skynet and sends Kyle and (good) Arnold back in time; it ends with John remarking to a soldier that Kyle is his father. What would be a good premise for T3? What if when the resistance enters Skynet and they find the T-800 room they have to fight an army of Arnolds? Or, they have to activate several Arnolds to fight a female Terminator? An interesting future paradox: what if adult John is killed before he sends back Kyle?Just some thoughts. Personally, I'd be very disinterested in T3 if Arnold's going to be protecting a teenage/young adult Connor/Furlong: BORING!
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just SCREW it up. Look at The Shadow, look at the Phantom, look at the crappy George Pal Doc Savage with the silly music. The brilliant studio execs would want to make it contemporary and thus they would probaly set it in this century. In effect, this would cause us to loose the period dialect and that pulpy, noir dynamic. Instead, we would get Dawson's Creek teenspeak , laced with irony and detached self-awareness: " Hey, Mister Sunlight, Johny dude - what's-up, Your going all Milosovich on me. Gonna send ya up state to for the "treatment". Man, my cousin Pat is hot." All the gee-whiz devices that Doc Had would become some lame Star Trek props. ************
DOLPH LUNDEGREN could not act his way out of a seventh grade production of "OUR TOWN." Go to Blockbuster and rent "Black Jack" and ask yourself - how could anybody ruin a John Woo movie? Even Tom Cruise didn't manage to do that - but Dolph did. -
Oct 13, 2000 1:06:49 AM CDT
They're Going to Go With My Peter Briggsian Treatment: The Termi
by buzz maverik
"Und now I vill unvail mein latest invention! Ta da!" "Jeez, Doc, it looks just like you!" "Ja, it ist mein new time trappeling robot. I call it Artifical Replica Naturally Intelligent Entity, or ARNIE for short. I vill use it to explore da future. Say der year 2000!" "But that could be disastrous Doc. By the year 2000 anything could have happened. Martians could have taken over the Earth, or all our fuel could be wiped out and we could all be nomad gangs fighting over what's left, or a vampire plague could leave only a few human survivors." "Yeah, Doc, or maybe machines like this could take over the world and try to wipe out humanity." "Led dem try! None of dose ding vill habben because ve, or udders lige us, vill stob id! Und now, I zend mein robot off. Auf weidersein, mein fruend!" "Auf weirdersein, mein Creator." "Doc, he sounds just like you." "Vot do you mean, Monk?" "Uh, nothing, just why would anyone build a machine with an accent?" "Vot accent?" "Forget it!" "In ein zecond, ARNIE vill reappear mit news from der year 2000." "Where is he, Doc?" "Zomeding must hab habbened. Dis ist ein disaster. Only zomething horrible could prevent ARNIE from retuhning. Ve vill have to trabble true time und save der day." "Yeesh! This is time travel? Reminds me of those mushrooms I ate in the Andes." "Doc, do you see that?" "Ja. Id loogs lige ARNIE, but in blag leather..." "We're going to hit!" "Uggh! Where are we, Doc?" "Vell, if I know mein aucheolochy, und I do, I vould say dat dose building are from der Hyborian age!" "Hey, your robot is heading for that city. He's getting lost in the crowd." "Ve vill need a guide. Perhabs dat handsome, mosculah fellow mit der sword could helb us..."
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