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Terry Gilliam to do GOOD OMENS next... plus NeW NeWs about his WATCHMEN!!!

Hey folks, Harry here and... the thought that the Terry Gilliam WATCHMEN film might have a minute spark of existence left in it's development hellfire burnt body... thrills me. Now, the weird part is the 12 hour film part. I just don't see that as happening. 4 Three hour movies? 6 Two hour movies? 1 Twelve hour movie? I mean... I'm there no matter what... but ya know.. the ol Sam Hamm script for WATCHMEN pretty much ruled planet Earth. Is there a reason not to film that? I don't think so.... But then Gilliam's the genius... not me... Here ya go folks..

Hi, Harry. Skywalker here (waiting for James Cameron's Mazinger Z confirmations :))

Well, Terry Guilliam was yesterday in the Festival Internacional de Cine de Sitges. As he is working in "The Man who killed Don Quixote" in Spain it wasn't a long journey. He told us that when he finish "Don Quixote" he will beguin the "Good Omens" adaptation (you know, Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett's book).

The director of "12 Monkeys" said some things about "Watchmen", the Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons comic series he is supposed to adapt too. "I've received a new offer to do "Watchmen" after "Good Omens" but I won't direct the movie if I'm not allowed to make a 12 hours film". Well, that would make an interesting movie, wouldn't it?

(If you are so kind and you think you like the new, would you mind setting a link to my Spanish website, Butaca de Sueños? It's in Butaca.Dreamers.Com. A little website of cinema news hoping to become so important as yours :) Thank you very much. You are the best!)

Skywalker

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  • Oct. 9, 2000, 9:02 p.m. CST

    Well...

    by GravyAkira

    Im gravy

  • Oct. 9, 2000, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Interesting...

    by AaronHayden

    Is this going to appeal to a lot of people? Watchmen, that is, especially if we're talking about multiple movies. I don't really see how any theater would show a single 12-hour movie. Like Harry said, I'm there no matter what, but I wonder if the general, non-comic-book-reading populace will embrace this.

  • Oct. 9, 2000, 9:16 p.m. CST

    Terry Gilliam rules

    by Kenevil

    Terry Gilliam is a genius and should be able to make anything he goddamned pleases, regardless on length.

  • Well, maybe not quite, but at least a four hour film. All things considered, maybe Gilliam is hinting at a "Watchman" miniseries, maybe on pay t.v.? I'd pay to see that....

  • Oct. 9, 2000, 9:32 p.m. CST

    12 hours for 12 issues

    by Evil Dead

    An hour for each issue of the comic series. Makes sense to me as it'll do it justice.

  • Oct. 9, 2000, 9:34 p.m. CST

    Nerdy as it sounds...

    by Robin Goodfellow

    I'd watch a frickin' 12 hour Gilliam movie!

  • Oct. 9, 2000, 9:40 p.m. CST

    in defense and for the record

    by kojiro

    Harry did report basically the same thing a couple of weeks ago. Good omens, Watchmen miniseries, whatever. But as this is what you might call out of the horses mouth(with them there direct quatations) rather than an "I heard..." message from someone, well, one might think it worth the update.

  • Oct. 9, 2000, 9:41 p.m. CST

    I think Gilliam was taking the liberty...

    by HootDad

    To paraphrase a Dan Akroyd quote from Blues Brothers...

  • Oct. 9, 2000, 9:41 p.m. CST

    quatations, quite a word isn't it?

    by kojiro

    yeh.

  • Oct. 9, 2000, 9:52 p.m. CST

    SHOULD there be a Watchmen movie?

    by Jonny Quest

    Gilliam gave an interview to the Comics Journal back in '95 where he said the he didn't like the Sam Hamm screenplay. He thought that it missed the point of Watchmen in trying to simplify and collapse it down into a 2 hour movie, and once you take out all the indiosyncratic material that Moore & Gibbons did, it's just a bunch of superheroes. I've read the Hamm version, and I thought it did a pretty decent job. It has a very clever opening and a different ending that I personally don't like as much as the original comic. I think with Watchmen, no matter who adapts it, some disappointment is inevitable. If a movie or a TV adaptation is ever made, it will either work beautifully or be absolutely wretched. I don't see any middle ground. If anybody has a shot at pulling it off, though, I would bet on Gilliam.

  • Oct. 9, 2000, 10:18 p.m. CST

    Sounds like the right idea

    by Silencer

    Now I'm not actually familiar with Watchmen, having not the time or money to buy it when there are 13 more volumes of Maison Ikkoku left to read, but anyone who's seen Akira should know that epic works of Comic artistry CANNOT be condensed into a two-hour movie. Spending an hour dealing with the complex issues raised by each volume sounds just about right

  • Oct. 9, 2000, 10:20 p.m. CST

    They should make Watchmen into a miniseries.

    by wire-fu

    Wouldn't it be cool if one of the major networks did a coproduction with a studio to finance a 12 part one hour series based on the Watchmen. It would make great TV and boost audiences for the networks. What do you guys think? Would it be feasible?

  • Oct. 9, 2000, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Oh! Oh!! Oh!!

    by Manifest

    Oh thats damn right! The only way the watchmen could ever be done is outstandingly long. Lets hope this is true!

  • Oct. 9, 2000, 10:47 p.m. CST

    Miniseries

    by Toranaga

    I always thought he should do Watchmen as a miniseries for HBO. That way, he gets the full 12 hours, plus you dont have to cut anything. The only problem I guess is that HBO wouldnt put up the money that it needed. But then again, I'm not too keen on the business side of it all.

  • Oct. 9, 2000, 10:53 p.m. CST

    Watchmen MUST be made!!!!

    by J Nasty

    I remember hearing stories about the original script costing 1 million a page!!!! Nevertheless Gilliam is the man for this project. And he must be left alone, totally hands off. I know he's usually pretty good at getting funds from outside of Hollywood for his movies, but I have doubts whether he will be able to raise enough money for the Watchmen. He's getting up there to isn't he? He better get cracking on this sucker.

  • Oct. 9, 2000, 10:55 p.m. CST

    I see dry humor doesn't translate well over the net

    by Lizzybeth

    He's not going to do it, obviously. You can't boil Watchmen down to a 2 hour commodity, and who would want him to? He was kidding. I'd love to see Good Omens, though. That could be interesting, and great material for him.

  • Oct. 9, 2000, 10:55 p.m. CST

    Watchmen script

    by High King Fanboy

    Okay, I've been searching for a while now, and I can't find a copy of the Watchmen script anywhere on line. I know I'm not looking in the right places, so if anyone knows where I can find it, let me know. I really want to read this thing. Thanks.

  • Oct. 9, 2000, 11:20 p.m. CST

    Sam Hamm Screenplay Good?

    by doctorcreep

    All I know about it is that the characters are actually referred to as the "Watchmen" in the script. That's all I need to know that Hamm hasn't got a clue about that story.

  • Oct. 9, 2000, 11:28 p.m. CST

    12 hours, the time it takes to read a book

    by Basilica

  • Oct. 9, 2000, 11:29 p.m. CST

    Why can't movies be as detailed as books?

    by Basilica

    12 hours for a film is not an entirely bad idea..actually, I kind of like it. I mean, there's no reason why a film can't go into the same detail as a book. An average 300 page novel might take us 12 hours to read, so what's wrong with making a twelve hour movie? People don't read a 300 page novel all in one sitting, they do it in episodes. Why can't movies just be twelve hours long but with periodic pauses, so that a person can stop watching and return to it at a different time. Thus, movie adaptions of books will no longer be summaries, but will capture in detail the heart of the book. Terry Gilliam will lead the way! All ye in Hollywood, follow him with glory!

  • Oct. 9, 2000, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Good Omens...

    by cabiria

    Is a fantastically funny book, combining the dark genius of Gaiman with the nutty goofiness of Pratchett. There is no other director who can do it justice but Gilliam. To those who have not read Good Omens- shame on you! Go out and read it now! It is brilliant.

  • Oct. 9, 2000, 11:55 p.m. CST

    There all ready was one 12 hour movie

    by ako

    It was called greed and eric von strohiem directed it. It was all so the last thing he directed. The movie was done in the silent era and was a diaster, even if it was a work of art no one is ever going to sit thru a 12 hour movie. Also that alows only one showing a day, not the best way to make money. A 12 hour watchmen would have to be on tv and if they could do that how about a 6 hour animated mini series based on Kingdom Come. Three nights , two hours a night. With big named movie stars suppling the voices and the project pre sold over sea's to cover the cost.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 12:18 a.m. CST

    Let Watchmen rest

    by Pseudonym

    What's the fascination with bringin Watchmen to live action? Watchmen is the absolute BEST comic I've ever read, hands down, but I have absolutely no desire to see it on a screen because movies are rarely ever as good as the book. Let Watchmen be what it is, be glad it was published in the first place, and be glad it's been spared from Hollywood's executive stupidity. Of course, if it ever IS made into a movie, I'll see it. But that's neither here nor there.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 12:33 a.m. CST

    12 Hours is an exaggeration.

    by Prankster

    2 Hours isn't enough to capture all of Watchmen, but I think it would fit comfortably into 3 or 4 hours. Certainly we don't *need* extra stuff like the pirate comic or even the day-to-day life of the New York citizens (the newsvendor et al.) But anyway, I think it's pretty clear Gilliam doesn't count on that happening any time soon. It would make a great TV mini, though, for HBO or something...animated, even? In live action it would be pretty expensive if done exactly as written, but you could do some selective trimming and inventive replacement. For instance, the really expensive shots like a giant Dr. Manhattan tromping through the jungles of Vietnam can go, and they might find a cheaper way to do the Antarctic Greenhouse dome bit...of course I would like to see everything translated perfectly faithfully, but I'd rather see them get the budget down and make a cheap movie that can be faithful and uncompromising, rather than spend a bajillion dollars on the dazzling imagery and get something that misses the whole point. This is, arguably, the greatest graphic novel yet written and it has to be done justice...I want people to see the movie and say, "Wow, those comics aren't as stupid as I thought!" No, no they're not.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 1:33 a.m. CST

    Sam Hamm Script

    by season

    I managed to get hold of the script a year or so ago and I can tell you that even though the characters are referred to as "The Watchmen" at one point, it did a fantastic job getting the main points of the story across (more than I expected it to), until it completely fell apart at the end with some lame-ass "time travel" finale involving Ozymandius opening a hole in the space time continuum seconds before Dr. Manhattan is created so he can fire a bullet into John's chest and kill him before the intrinsic field generators go off. I mean, it was THIS CLOSE to being the best comic book adaption never made until that stupid finale. And they robbed Adrian of his best line... "I did it thirty-five minutes ago." There were a lot of details taken out, but the characters were all intact. Much of the dialogue was taken directly from the comics. But I don't realistically see how the Watchmen in ANY form will get made. It's a property that's unknown to most of the general public and it's 15 years old. It's not "HOT" so the studios won't touch it. And don't tell me, "Yeah well Superman/Batman/X-Men/Spiderman are older than that." The difference there is that 4 out of 5 people on the street know Superman is really Clark Kent. Find me someone who can tell me who Nite Owl I was.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 2:35 a.m. CST

    Morons?

    by Psyberia

    Hardly. Unless you get an audio clip of Gilliam actually saying those word, you will never know his true delivery. It can be read both ways. But I do agree, he was more than likely being sarcastic.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 2:42 a.m. CST

    Rorschach's Journal

    by Buzz Maverik

    Hrrrummph. Talk in the streets like the vapor haze over a crack den about a Watchman movie. Distrust Hollywood, with it's glitter dreams and development deals. Pasta, ponytails and bottled water. I spit on it all. Gilliam, why did he leave America, the country of his birth in the first place? Must investigate. His involvment with Monty Python makes him suspect. Lumberjacks in women's clothes, not caring. I don't like to think about that. Even the name Python, serpentine. A sexual metaphor? Don't like to think about that either. Why can't humor be like that of great men like the Jerry Lewis or my father? Must ask Dreiberg to loan me his Blockbuster card. Banned from my neighborhood video store. Should have never picked the adult section to put on my Face. Hrrrumph.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 2:58 a.m. CST

    Excellent impersonation, Buzz!

    by CranialLeak

    Man, reading that TB took me back quite a few years to when I first read Watchmen. Rorschach was the shit!

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 3:24 a.m. CST

    My Brilliant Idea

    by jak flash 2000

    I have only read the first part of the Watchmen comics and I have to say that it was pretty darned. good. Terry Gillum doing this. Now that would rock the earth. Kevin Smith believes that filmmakers should leave Watchmen alone but I disagree. I doesnt matter if they make a flop or a masterpiece. The comics have been out too long to be changed by a film. Example when Batman 4 came out it didnt ruin all the films that came before it. It spoiled the franchise but it didnt ruin everything. No far from it and I know you all agree. Sam Hamm doing the script again now that would be very cool. I see Watchmen as being a television mini series more than a twelve hour movie. Get a big budget some good actors and a good time slot and your on. Show onw hour programes twelve times each month until the end of the year. With the first episode starting in the begining of the year and the final episode at christmas end of year. Not only would this create high anticipation but it would result in an end of year viewers frenzy that would beat Who Wants To Be a Millionare, Buffy, Angel and anything else that will come along. Gillium gets his twelve hour Watchmen. We get our Watchmen and everyone hgas a happy Christmas. Now thats how to do it. My E mail has changed please e-mail:jakflash2000@buffymail.com

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 3:47 a.m. CST

    actually, it's "hurm..."

    by Lazarus Long

    Why does this have to be 12 hours? Come on, people! I agree with the person who said this could fit into a 3-4 hour film. No studio would fund that either, and I'd hate to see a mini-series in TV full-frame, which would diminish the power of the piece. You have to wait until the X-Men and sequel fever die down anyway. Get some big stars so people who don't read will see it (a pumped-up DeNiro as The Comedian?). And you would definitely have to axe the Hollis Mason biography stuff (and a lot of the original Minutemen material, except for the Comedian attempted rape), and the pirate comic shit as metaphor wouldn't be necessary in the film (or doable). But one final point is that RORSHACH MUST DIE! And it wouldn't hurt to keep it open-ended on the judgement of Ozymandias' actions.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 5:04 a.m. CST

    What a promising project

    by Sepulchrave

    Good Omens indeed. Terry Pratchett

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 5:20 a.m. CST

    Gilliam may be born american,

    by NUXX

    But his understanding of european sarcasm is head on...LOL! Dont read too much into this folks, Gilliam may be visionary, but its pretty obvious that he

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 5:57 a.m. CST

    12 hour Watchmen movie?

    by X-Girls

    kewwwwl. He has my blessing.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 6:07 a.m. CST

    "Rorschach was the shit!"

    by X-Girls

    LO-Fuckin' L! good job, Buzz

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 6:37 a.m. CST

    Watchmen

    by CountZero

    What all of you seem to miss is that one of the main reasons Watchmen works so well is because of the comic's intricate structure - something that could NEVER be replicated in a film, because Watchmen utilizes so much of comics' unique visual language. The pirate comic that mirrors the theme of the story, the symmetrically-designed panel arrangement...it's designed to be a comic, and nothing BUT a comic. Do you really HAVE to have a movie made out of EVERYTHING? And Gilliam was clearly, CLEARLY being sarcastic - "I'll do it when they let me make a 12 hour film" is pretty much the same as saying "I'll do it when hell freezes over."

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 9:12 a.m. CST

    If only it could work...

    by FallenStar

    I agree, the odds of a serious attempt at this are incredibly slim, and I'm sure this is a misinterpretation. Also, I believe the story is too complex to be told in a movie format. However, part of me can't help but imagine what could be done. I wish it could be a series of movies released in immediate succesion. We'd return to the theatres week after week to see the next part, just like our parents did, or as we returned to the shops each week to get our next installment of the series. I am curious as to what Alan Moore thinks about all this, considering his current feelings towards DC Comics and there treatment of Watchmen and other stories he's done.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 9:46 a.m. CST

    NO WATCHMEN MOVIE!!!!!

    by deinstag909

    I have to agree. No way. And Prankster, nothing should be taken out of the watchmen you bonehead!! BTW for all of you who think that Gilliam is the right man let me tell you that when he was actively involved in the adaptation he himself stated in various comic book magazines (back in '88-89) that he wanted to take out lots of things out for the screenplay. Among them was the WHOLE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE COMEDIAN AND LORI!!!! WHAT THE FUCK?? HELLO!! I understand if a movie is ever made, certain butcheries will have to occur, but you can't do away with the relationship between The Comedian and Lori!! I think there are just too many details that make the book what it is. If those things get taken out, it won't be the same story. How are they gonna get away with Nixon? How about all the Cold War tension that runs through the whole book? I have to say that Gilliam is in my top 5 director list, but the only way this is going to work is if EVERYTHING IS COVERED!!! And the only way that will work is through a 12 hour miniseries. Incidentally, I think Gilliam was bullshitting about the whole thing.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 9:55 a.m. CST

    He was being sarcastic

    by Kurgen

    Gilliam was probably saying, in a veiled way, that he wasn't going to make the film. He knows a 12-hour movie would never fly on the screen, and that TV would never give him the budget he would want to do Watchmen right.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Watchmen = Snowball's chance in hell

    by McCauley1

    The endless talk... Watchmen will never, ever be made. At least, not in the form we'd all like to see. No producer would EVER let this comic go on screen. And the Hamm script? God knows what Harry's been eating again (retard sandwiches?) but it's not even worth talking about. And please, please look at Gilliam's comment for what it was: humor. 12 hours? Even Spielberg wouldn't get a 12 hour movie. Let it go, kids. Watchmen is best enjoyed in your minds.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Rorshach's Journal. 12 Hours...

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...a long time to be sitting in a movie theater surrounded by groping lovers, stale popcorn and THX sound. 12 hours, a short time when it's half of the last day of your life. Out there, somewhere, they say to me ,"It's HURM not Hrrrmphh." To them, I laugh back, "Geeks." And I leave them to their comic books and Star Trek conventions, their singles chatrooms and their cyber-sex and their Harry Knowles. Knowles. Must investigate him. Connection to Moriarity, named after a criminal! Moriarity--connection to Moloch? I'm all alone in this City, but I don't need a website or a computer or a password or a user I.D. ... Not when I know Dreiberg's.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Some things just shouldn't be movies....

    by Darf_Gaseous

    Years ago, when I heard rumors that some studio was interested in a Sandman feature, I remember cringing in fear, thinking of how an ongoing series would be bastardized into a 2 hr. movie. Good Omens might make a good movie, but still, I don't know how well the book's humor will translate. My ex often asked me, when she saw me reading that book, "What are you grinning about?" Maybe, but I'm skeptical, though I will give Gilliam's effort a fair shake. Sometimes, like in the case of Akira, if you are not familiar with material beforehand, you don't realise all of the subtext is either removed or diminished greatly until you sit down with the book and read it as it was meant to be.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Pirates in Watchmen?? Did I miss something?

    by Fatal Discharge

    I own the graphic novel and although it's been a long time since I read it, I don't remember any freaking pirates. I guess maybe in the comic book series? Frankly, I've never had the patience to buy a comic book series every week/month and when I tried with Sandman, I soon gave up. Anyway, Watchmen gained its big following from the graphic novel which reached a much greater adult audience than a comic book would so its too bad that the publishing idea never took off the way I hoped at the time when Frank Miller, Alan Moore and other interesting writers made some great "novels".

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 12:57 p.m. CST

    That might not be what he meant

    by Rex

    You could read it as him saying that he'll only do Watchmen [as a regular length film], if they [financiers, studio, whoever] let him [also] make a twelve hour film. Or maybe he was joking. As long as Good Omens makes it to release, I'm not fussed ...

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Pardon My Heresy

    by Ardee-El

    But not even Terry Gilliam has the chops to pull off translating The Watchmen to the screen. In fact, no living filmmaker comes to mind. (Though I agree with my previous posters that Mr. Gilliam was pulling his audience's collective leg.) It would take a director of extraordinary vision, vast intelligence, and incredible economic clout. (Not even Kubrick's clone comes out of the pseudoamniotic fluid for another thirteen years.) Two hours is too short a time to do justice to the story, or the minutiae of either the structure or the characters; 12 hours won't work as a theatrical release purely for financial reasons. That leaves a mini-series, and based on the subject matter, that leaves out broadcast tv. What's left? Well, HBO is a good suggestion, may I make another: the BBC. Sure, The Watchman has a uniquely American perspective, but I'd like to think that some day the BBC will do another mini-series that will blow I, Claudius out of the water. (Actually, the final bottom line of LOTR may have more impact on the prospects of a Watchman movie than all the idle fanboy wishing in the world.) And lastly, to the posters who think The Watchman cannot be successfully translated out of the comic book milieu, that's one of the exciting challenges of the book, finding the celluloid metaphors for the purely comic book elements. For example (and forgive me if I get some of the details wrong, it's been years since I read the book), the newspaper clippings that detail the rise of "costumed vigilantes" could be replaced by grainy newsreel footage. Any other suggestions?

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 1:20 p.m. CST

    I wish people would read my posts THOUROUGHLY before commenting.

    by Prankster

    I'll say it once again. I would like to see a completely faithful, line-by-line adaptation of the comic into a film. It would work, but it would also be much longer than a normal movie, and therefore would never be made. This is obviously what Gilliam was talking about. So, as I said, you would have to cut stuff out, and one of the first things to go would have to be the pirate comic sequences. Does this mean I don't like the pirate comic sequences? No it does not. It's a clever addition that weaves in and out of the narrative in surprising ways ("Raw SHARK?") and adds another layer of depth. But it's NOT vital to the story, and calling me a bonehead does not change that. Any adaptation of Watchmen that could realistically make it to the screen would have to get rid of "Marooned". You cannot compare it to the "day in the life" sequences in Astro City, which are that entire comics' reason for existance. Astro City is the Seinfeld of comics. Similar to how Seinfeld was not so much about the important events in the characters' lives (which were seen briefly, if at all) but about the scenes in Jerry's apartment or the coffee shop where they talk about said events. In Astro City, the stuff that happens in between the battles with supervillains and the giant plot twists is the meat of the series. This is NOT true of Watchmen--for all that it stands the superhero genre on its ear, it still has a plot seen from the perspective of the heroes, and revolving around major, earth-shaking events. They should try to capture as much of the texture as possible, yes, but there's no way they can hope to capture ALL of it.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Watchmen

    by Elliot_Kane

    PRANKSTER, the pirate comic is not absolutely necessary to a good Watchmen adaptation, I will grant you, but the little vignettes of ordinary street life are. The idea is to show that there is a real and tragic human cost involved in Ozymandias' plan. At every stage people die. Not nameless, faceless, non-entities, but people. This attention to detail is what makes Alan Moore the great writer he is - and Watchmen virtually impossible to film. A TV series would be good, but I doubt any of the big companies would touch it, either here in Britain or in the states. It would cost far too much for the small niche market it would be aimed at. Changing subject, there is no reason why several of Terry Pratchett's books could not be made into films. Channel Four successfully translated Soul Music and a couple of others into cartoons that were quite popular in Britain. I suspect the main reason for a lack of interest from the film companies is once again cost. Even in a normal Discworld street scene there would be numerous special effect requirements.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Good Call Elliot

    by doctorcreep

    The best part of the series for me is when the newsvendor grabs the kid at the end of issue 11 in a vain attempt to protect him from the explosion. Man, I get choked up just thinking about it.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Why not a Watchmen miniseries?

    by superninja

    Actually, I'd rather not see Watchmen adapted at all, but if it had to, I'd prefer a miniseries.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Perfect comic book.

    by superninja

    It is. All by itself. Granted, it's not my favorite, but I think about those pages and I try as hard as I might to picture a translation, and all I come up with is dissapointment and a loss of the unique energy the story creates all on its own. How about League of Extraordinatry Gentlemen? Now THAT has cinematic promise!

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Animated!

    by cncoyle

    Forget any kind of live action and stick to the roots of its greatness: great story-telling through a drawn medium. The costumed characters wouldn't look right in live action (except possibly The Comedian). Do something animated as wild as Heavy Metal but as spectacular as Princess Mononoke.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Undecided

    by Havok2173

    When I first saw this I said a silet "yes" to myself. ( I was at work and had to keep my elation contained.) Then I started to think. Could this possibly work ? As much as I would love to see a living, breathing, hurming, Rorschach, I just don't see this as being what we fans would want. Watchmen is perhaps the greatest work in the comic book medium. Let it stay that way. Don't ruin it for the true fans of the work. Even taking out the smallest part of the story would damage the whole.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Live action Rorschack

    by superninja

    Comedian/actor Lee Evans.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Gilliam and Gaiman...

    by StarUnlit

    if Omens is good, i would love to see him do Gaiman's Neverwhere, and maybe Death too...

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Rorshach's Journal: There's A Mask Killer In Hollywood...

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...carving a deep slice through four-color Baxter paper. First, a Man of Steel standing for truth, justice and the American was is sent of a Quest For Peace. Bah. Shallow fashionable pablum. Then, a great Dark Knight and a Boy Wonder, taking their revenge on the criminals and perverts who've orphaned them are reduced to a pair of homoerotic punchlines. Hrrrmph! (You try just going HURM with a throat full of phlegm and your Face on). True, those abandoned Children of the Atom continue proudly searching after unity with those who rejected them, but what about the Wallcrawler, turned into a freak with ...hurm, organic webshooters that resemble a woman's private parts and a noble Amazon princess, whose costume I admittedly do not like, who may be played by a pop music tramp. Now, they tell me that the Comedian, the Nite Owl, Dr. Manhattan, the Silk Spectre, Ozymandius and I are either to be animated or a television mini-series. Well, there's at least one left who will not quit, who will not be turned into a cartoon or a pitchman for Massengale Douches or beer. I will find this killer. I will not rest until he and I are face to face. The suspects: Joel Schumacher. When I questioned him, he kept suggesting I wear earring on side of face, and add nipples and a codpiece to my trenchcoat. I left him bound and gagged outside the Directors Guild of America. Jon Peters -- Peters kept telling me about his macho side, showing me his gun collection, and saying he and I are simpatico because "we're both from the streets". We are nothing alike. Then, he started screaming at me. Accusing me of keeping him waiting, saying that I could do that to anyone else but not him. Stapled his tongue to his coffee table and left through the window. After a supper of sugar cubes and beans, cornered Joel Silver outside a trendy restraunt. He kept saying, "Outtasite" and "Hurm" and screaming at his assistant. I shoved him in front of his speeding foreign made sports car as a drug crazed parking attendant was bringing it around and left. Depressed. Stomach hurting. This is a town full of madmen. I long for the sanity of Moloch, Big Figure or the Top Knot Gang. They understood what this mask killer, whoever he is, never will. My last stop before going home: Kevin Smith's L.A. condo. Smith wasn't home, but I was accosted by one of Smith's henchmen, reeking of reefer smoke and vomit. Too impatient to question him, I dropped him down a garbage chute. He landed on Smith's other thug, who was already at the bottom, sleeping off whatever poison he'd ingested, so he wasn't harmed. A shame.

  • Oct. 10, 2000, 11:23 p.m. CST

    all right stormy

    by kojiro

    ...fair enough, I didn't check that out. But my main reason for posting was just to say that Harry did indeed report this once before several weeks ago.

  • Oct. 11, 2000, 12:28 a.m. CST

    well enough alone blahblahblah

    by spunksf

    You know, I'm a total geek and I love comic movies, but making the Watchmen into a movie would be akin to making Casablanca a comic. There were specific elements that made each unforgetable. Chemistry (Bogart & Bergmen, Moore & Gibbons), timing (WWII, Reagan and Thatcher era). Sometimes the original just doesn't need improving. Look closely at the Watchmen and you'll see that not one panel is wasted, every single detail of it is used to paint a larger picture. As a piece of art, Watchmen was simply meant for the medium of comics. Let's find another story to tell, because this one was already told perfectly.

  • Oct. 11, 2000, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Series Maybe

    by Quiddity

    If he's serious about doing 12 hours, maybe he should consider a cable series. Watchmen would be a bit graphic for broadcast TV (and thus would be cut to ribbons). Hate to say it but 12 hours at one time is waaaaay too much for me. We talk about folks having short attention spans... well, I'll confess to it. 2-1/2 hrs is my limit.

  • Oct. 11, 2000, 1:38 p.m. CST

    What's so crescent fresh about you guys is that you just don't g

    by Insectopia

    The pirate comic is one of the coolest parts of Watchmen. And they shouldn't make a movie out of the comic.

  • Oct. 12, 2000, 2:37 a.m. CST

    Good Omens Casting Suggestions

    by Vyper

    How about Rowan Atkinson as Crowley? And Meat Loaf should definitely be Grievous Bodily Harm or one of the "other 4 riders".

  • Oct. 12, 2000, 3:29 a.m. CST

    ooh 12 hours of celluloid.. drewl.

    by thingie

    Nice. Anyone for a half-a-day movie? Load that popcorn!

  • Oct. 12, 2000, 11:05 p.m. CST

    OK, Buzz, once was enough....

    by wetstereorebel

    Yes, Buzz, it was rather funny the first time you did the impression, but the second and the thrid time were truly pathetic. Please leave us all alone now.

  • Oct. 13, 2000, 1:14 a.m. CST

    Rorshach's Journal: Enough?

    by Buzz Maverik

    Once is enough. Truly pathetic. Please leave them alone. Those words are on their lips like crusted vomit. I will go on. I will continue. What they do not understand about their words is that it only makes me more determined...and my stomach hurt. I'll leave them alone alright, alone to the fates they've created for themselves with their sex and their talkbacks. Moloch said to please leave him alone, but I will return.

  • Oct. 13, 2000, 2:50 a.m. CST

    I Have To Agree With Wetstereorebel! This Buzz Maverik Just Doe

    by Buzz Maverik

    Now, you take a guy like Alan Moore, he'd never make fun of comic books, but a creep like Maverik just seems to be laughing at Rorschach and he keeps doing it. The first one was okay because I didn't get the joke, but then he keeps bothering us and guys like me and Wetstereo want to talk about a 12 hour movie and we don't like anybody taking the Watchman's name in vain. Maybe Buzz Maverik wouldn't think Rorshach was so funny if he knew about Ror's tragic past, how his mother was hooker and he put a cigarette out in a guy's eye and how he was there when that Harlan Ellison character, Kitty Genovese, was murdered and how he killed a couple of dogs named Fred and Barney just like that old urban legend that didn't make it into that cool movie. I'll be Buzz Maverik makes fun of movies like that too. He should go back where he came from, on the horse he rode in on.

  • Oct. 2, 2001, 1:23 a.m. CST

    And why not?

    by Adrian Veidt

    Why not making a film about "The watchmen"? Since I first read it (some 13 years ago) I always thought it could be a great movie if the time lapses in the comic were respected. Besides, If we knock down all the explanations at the end of each comic-book (which Alan Moore enjoys so much, remember "From Hell")and we make a pretty good use of the narrative ellipsis (which so many screenwriters in Holywood regret nowadays) it would fix perfectly into a 2 hours and a half/3 hours movie. On the other hand, I still think that any kind of material could make a good movie used by a brilliant director. So please, all you fans try not to be so fanatic and understand that the movie doesn't have to be like the literary material it is based on. In other words, the only thing I fear about a Watchmen movie is that in the hands of childish untalented holywood technicians it would go nowhere. But I'd like to see what people like Coppola or the deceased Kubrick would have done with it. This material requires a brilliant and bold filmaker, but still can be done.