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Ridley Scott to direct TERMINATOR 3' Hmmm...

Published at:  Oct 08, 2000 4:43:28 AM CDT

Hey folks, Harry here... Now I want to say right up front that until I see Ridley Scott telling Variety or Hollywood Reporter that he's signed onto T3... I don't believe that Ridley really wants to become that guy that makes sequels to great films... but, ya know... If it does turn out to be true... I hope to God he works with a better script than what I've heard rumors they have. So take this with the salt of the Great Salt Lake.




I just saw a program with Danish "actor" Sven Ole Thorsen - bodybuilder
beef and close, personal friend of Arnold.

Ah-nuld has cast (or demanded he be cast) in various bad guy roles since
wayyyyy back with Conan 1 (you know 'em all, the latest was Gladiator).
He just recently said - hold on now, people - "well, Arnold is onboard
T3 now, and it's to be directed by Ridley Scott. Did you know?"

I can't - ever - picture Scott doing a T-movie, but Ole looked firm and
easy in saying it. On national Danish TV. A show that interviews Danish
celebraties who have made it in Hollywood.

see ya,

Rainfox



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  • Oct 08, 2000 4:56:31 AM CDT

    Ridley Scott. So what?

    by owen meany

    Scott is the perfect type of director for this type of film. His best work is waaay behind him, and the main characters are already set and done. No need for those messy, awkward character scenes ( does any1 remember the "go to them " bit at the end of Gladiator? Geezus!). Color by numbers and rake in the millions. I would prefer his brother to do it, at least his work still looks good.

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  • Oct 08, 2000 5:00:09 AM CDT

    My thoughts........

    by vulcan bob

    In one word "BULLSHIT!"

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  • Oct 08, 2000 5:29:10 AM CDT

    Whoa, deja vu!

    by barry stowles

    Wasn't this rumoured before, months ago?

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  • Oct 08, 2000 8:20:21 AM CDT

    Interesting...

    by falcon-1

    how things go around. Cameron took over where Scott left off with "Alien" and, from the looks of this report, Scott will take over where Cameron left off with the "Terminator" series. I have to wonder if Scott would do as Cameron did and change the entire genre of the film. I think it would be a bold move to make if Scott were to take the "techno/paramilitary/sci-fi Terminator" and make it a "thriller/horror/sci-fi" film. I'm not certain how this could be done, but it would certainly make for something different.

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  • Oct 08, 2000 10:37:46 AM CDT

    Terminator-Aliens Flip-Flop

    by toastyken

    Since Cameron's done a sequel of a Scott movie, it'll be interesting to see how things turn out the other way around...

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  • Oct 08, 2000 12:33:14 PM CDT

    Terminator as a horror movie

    by dirty_bird

    I think it could work, a lot like Alien. Instead of an alien, a Terminator. Could bring back classic horror movie style and end all the teen slasher flicks that have come out the past 5 years. I hope this is true.

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  • Oct 08, 2000 2:01:28 PM CDT

    Much as I liked ALIEN...

    by prankster

    ...I have to admit that it was full of plot holes, many of which Cameron resolved with ALIENS. Scott taking over for Cameron will not work half as well as vice versa. I know Cameron is not cool right now, but let's face it, the man is a much better nuts-and-bolts storyteller who comes closer to putting real SF on the screen than just about anyone else. He actually thinks things through and tries to answer the audiences' anticipated questions instead of just assuming all bets are off because it's Sci-Fi. Ridley Scott is merely one of the best of the current generation of video-imagery directors. He has a talent for storytelling and he at least cares about character more than macho posturing, unlike his brother Tony. Given a good script, Ridley Scott can do great stuff, but with a weak one he's going to be left to founder.

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  • Oct 08, 2000 2:20:35 PM CDT

    LA FOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by lester_long

    Sven Thorson was La Fours in Mallrats. The Terminator vs. A mall security guard. I hear he even has two kills and is faster than Walt Flanagan's dog! Anyway, T3 looks to suck, Scott wouldn't bring anything to it. For this I'd say get...hmm maybe they could talk David O. Russell into doing it. That would kick asses. Or Tony Scott. Not Ridley

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  • Oct 08, 2000 3:30:52 PM CDT

    T2 did not resolve everything

    by elwood731

    Listen to the director's commentary for T2, Cameron says the reason they change the ending was the whole point of the series. The future is not set in stone, and anyone can change. The fact that one guy did not invent the chip, just means someone else will eventually. The point of the Terminator movies is that we must constantly fight the dark side of human nature from destroying ourselves. It is a moral lesson.

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  • Oct 08, 2000 4:10:29 PM CDT

    I would like to se T3........

    by rabid kimba

    ........but I rather see an ALIEN vs. PREDATOR film. That would kick ass!

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  • Oct 08, 2000 4:29:45 PM CDT

    DUH DUH DUH DA-DUH, DUH DUH DUH DA-DUH.....

    by arcturus

    It's been nine long years since the last Terminator movie, and I'm antsy for the next installment, as I'm sure you all are. When I heard the news that Cameron wasn't going to direct "Terminator 3" it WAS a huge letdown. After all, I see the t-saga as his baby, his vision. Still, that does not mean someone else can't come along and re-invent it. Ridley Scott would be an excellent and intriguing choice, it goes without saying. It's important to remember than the Terminator films have always revolved around not just around strong male characters but a strong female character as well, and Scott has proved in the past that he is capable of getting extraordinary performances from female leads (in fact, it's almost become his m.o.) I am suspicious that Sven or whatever his name is could be mis-informed on the Ridley issue, but I hope not. Look, I know a lot of you are upset, saying that there's no place further for the Terminator films to go. I think that this is just the wrong attitude. Remember a few years ago when Toho killed off Godzilla because they said they were out of new ideas? Well, that's baloney and the same holds true here (O.K., so Toho might have been presured into saying this, but you get my drift). You can ALWAYS come up with a clever new direction/concept and run with it.

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  • Oct 08, 2000 4:32:18 PM CDT

    Aliens v. Predators...

    by falcon-1

    On the surface, yes, I have to agree, this sounds like it would be a great movie. But when you get past the initial idea, what then? Sure, there would be some kick-butt fights; but what would the story be? You've got two main characters that just hiss and drool; there's no story there. And if you think Joe Citizen Average Moviegoer is gonna shell out his bucks to see two hours of aliens fighting one another, you're completely mistaken. Now, I know Darkhorse did a comic with human characters which carried the plot somewhat, but let's face it, a film version of that story would suck the chrome off a trailer hitch. Personally, I wish they'd leave both these series as well as Terminator alone to stand on their own merits; but H'wood hasn't come up with an original idea in almost fifty years and I don't really see anything on the horizon that is going to change that.

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  • It was in the latest issue of Entertainment Weekly. I'd have to give a glorious thumbs down on this, although I wouldn't mind a continuation or different story in the world of Conan, but a remake, no frickin' way!!!

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  • Oct 08, 2000 5:29:28 PM CDT

    2 Points

    by motoko_uk

    1) The Warchowskis aren't remaking Conan. They might be giving a hand with producing a third film directed by Milius and starring Arnold.

    2) There is a script floating around of Alien Vs. Predator written by Peter Briggs thats based on the comic book and is pretty darn good. It's not stunning and would probably be compared to Pitch Black rather than Alien but it's pacey, well written, both aliens are very cool and doesn't damage either of the other franchises. It did the rounds at the studios but got sunk when Pred 2 and Alien 3 died at the box office. You can find it at www.script-o-rama.com. It's a good read so try it out.

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  • Oct 08, 2000 6:15:07 PM CDT

    ARRGGGGG...alien vrs predator vrs teminator......

    by pez

    Can i just say one thing?

    Aliens and Predators do not exist in the same movie universe time frame....

    imagine how advanced the predators would be if they encountered the aliens during the time frame of alien/aliens etc...

    unrecognisable....

    but what the story could be (and this is the only thing it could be) is the predators fighting aliens and bringing them into contact with WY or persons thereof shortly after the the date of P2...(following the shot of the alien skull in P2...). It has to be set in modern day...

    the DH comics are way out of touch as humans have advanced alot in em (space travel and all) whereas the predators are the same as the ones who faught arnhold...

    i havent heard or seen anything about the proposed alien vrs predator script, so if im wrong or right, id like to know...

    pez is stellad....hic....:)

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  • Oct 08, 2000 6:15:39 PM CDT

    I read the Alien vs. Predator script by Peter Briggs...

    by andreasingo

    ...and while I didn't think it sucked it wasn't anything in it that really got me exited. It was just a recycle of old ideas.
    There is a excerpt from another script for the same film and this one I loved. Some new ideas and much more exiting all around. That was a script I really would love to see get made, by Jim or Ridley of course.

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  • Oct 08, 2000 7:39:27 PM CDT

    T3

    by batman_9

    Hmm. I don't know folks...I mean, the first two are awesome....and I would love to see T3...but not if it sucks. Sure, the arm was left in the machinery, but the series also came to a pleasing end if you want to look at it that way. I mean, personally, I don't think T3 should be made without Cameron. I like Scott, but not enough to trust him with T3...but wouldn't it be ironic if he made a Terminator film after Cameron made an Alien film? Fellow gets kinda warm and fuzzy just thinking about it.

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  • Oct 08, 2000 9:53:20 PM CDT

    An alternative to the arm-hydraulic-press thing!!!

    by drlecter37

    This may be utter bullshit, but I'm tired of people giving the arm-in-the-hydraulic-press rumoe shit and just passing it on. While that would be an interetsing way to continue the storyline, it lacks the explanation of the construction of the microchip (which is of course the basis for terminator creation). I heard a "rumor" that would explain the continuation of Skynet.

    You will remember near the beginning of the movie, when Miles Dyson is at work at SkyNet, a kid working there (he was about 20 I guess) asked Dyson where the arm and chip came from. "Rumor" has it that that kid made copies of everything Dyson did a SkyNet, preserving all of his work hoping to se it somehow. He was obsessed with the whole arm-thing. Since he is younger than Dyson, he can advance the technology more within his lifetime than Dyson could have, making the terminators that much more menacing. Like I said, this isn't a solid tip or anything. It's just an alternate theory to the arm theory that everyone seems to hate.

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  • Oct 08, 2000 10:05:47 PM CDT

    Pez, The A vs. P script is pretty easy to find online

    by tall_boy

    In fact, it was one of the FIRST things I ever found online years and years ago. I actually kinda dug it, I thought it was a decent read. Anyone interested check it at: http://www.geocities.com/aerodynes/script/avsps.txt Its a basic adaptation of the first (and only really decent) Dark Horse Comics Aliens vs. Predator books. The actions seqeunces are kinda cool (if a little derivative at times) but the characters need some rewritting. Still, I think its cool to read and wonder what could have been. BTW, this site has a TON of alien scripts along with 5(!) scripts for Alien 3 (even the William Gibson draft). So, go nuts. . .oh and we're talking about Terminator 3?. . .uhm. . .no Cameron, no me. . .

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  • Oct 08, 2000 10:10:24 PM CDT

    About the arm......

    by max fenig

    Go watch the T2:Special Edition DVD with the alternate ending. It pretty much ends it there. For those who havn't seen it: SPOILER


    It shows Sarah in the future (Judgement Day to be exact) on the playground from her dreams with John and his daughter and she does this V.O. thing about Judgement Day passing and "changing the future" and all that junk.




    END SPOILER You cannot make a sequel off that (not a PLAUSIBLE one anyway). That settles the damn argument and don't bring it up again. Have a nice day =)****Trying to figure out how the hell you people can't care about User ID Indeed!, Max Fenig, member of NICAP****

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  • Oct 08, 2000 10:40:41 PM CDT

    "Terminator" is a masterpiece, "T2" is a bloated pile of rehashe

    by younggeorgelucas

    "T3" is a film that isn't needed- just like "T2"...
    James Cameron made a big budget remake of his incredible film "The Terminator"- it was called "Terminator 2: Judgement Day". It had a lazy screenplay that Cameron should be ashamed of. Just put a lot a lot of effects over this shoddy screenplay and nobody will notice. He even broke the laws of his earlier film- and never blinked- how did the T-1000 come through time? Also, how in the hell is Arnold supposed to be the same model as the first Terminator? The only logical and reasonable way to have had Arnold in the film at all was to have him play the person that Skynet used as a model for the Model 101. I dread seeing this almost sixty year-old man playing a Terminator in "T3". Ugh!

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  • Oct 08, 2000 10:53:10 PM CDT

    Max, you ignorant

    by cfbabe

    Max Fenig, your 100% wrong, and for this, the conversation must continue. The "Future coda" on the T2 special edition was DELETED from the movie by James Cameron and REPLACED!! Therefore, it is NOT part of the official story of T2, sort of how T2:3D could not possibly be an actual cinematic sequel to T2 (its utter rubbish, except for the new concepts introduced).

    T3 is definitely possible.

    DrLecter37, where did u hear that "rumor" cause its exactly what I have in my T3 fanscript and i recently chatted about it online. Somethin strange here...
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  • Oct 08, 2000 11:39:14 PM CDT

    Terminator 3, who cares?

    by gary2012

    What you have here is some guy that doesn't know anything spouting off some rumour that he heard, which probably originated on a website like this one, and now the websites are using this as some sort of evidence that the rumour is true. It's like a game I used to play with my dad when I was little. We would make up something to cause some mischief, like maybe what someone said about someone else, and then we would take trns telling each other so that we could tell the involved parties and swear that it must be true since the person who told me (i.e. my dad) was someone totally different than the person who told my dad (i.e. me). Get it? It is like a self feeding loop. Besides, anyone who thinks that Ridley Scott would take on the bastardized sequel to an already overdone series (yes I think that T2 was utter crap that did nothing to further the story, unless you think showing the "great leader" John Conner as a scrawny, pencil necked, whining imbecile, and a lot more big explosions were a great addition to the story). I would hope that Scott would take on something a little more intelectually challenging.

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  • Oct 09, 2000 1:20:36 AM CDT

    Aliens vs. Predator

    by schizo

    I also heard that there was another script for A vs. P at www.dailyscript.com. But I don't know if it's different or not from the one at script-o-rama. The one I did read was pretty okay, it had some cool stuff. It seemed to me that it just rehashed stuff from both franchises and slapped them into a movie together. It would still be cool to see, though. As for T3, I felt that T2 had closure and I personally don't see the need for a third one. However, if they can find a story line that can expand on T2 without it seeming like a cop out then saddle up and ride! (That means I'm all for it). As long as it's better than Battlefield Earth, or as I like to call it THE WORST MOVIE EVER! I saw it at a bargain matinee for a buck fifty; for what they gave me I got over charged a dollar forty-five. Hoo, what trash! Damn that Travolta! Damn him and the woman who brought him into this world! Okay, I know that's off topic ever so slightly. I just needed to get that off my chest. Wulf Man out!

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  • Oct 09, 2000 2:56:31 AM CDT

    Perhaps it's a game???

    by roj blake

    I mean, Cameron directed a sequel to a Ridley film, so now Scott's going to direct a sequel to one of James's? That seems fair.

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  • Oct 09, 2000 7:53:03 AM CDT

    Battle Poster - you are not funny.

    by samscars

    You are trying too hard to get someone to think you are amusing, and it is not coming off very well. As a matter of fact, you come off as very boring and immature. I understand you have no life and need the attention, but please come up with something that is actually entertaining, or just shut the hell up.

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  • Oct 09, 2000 9:19:39 AM CDT

    Well I do pity you

    by samscars

    I do pity you, because you are pathetic loser who pretends to be a damn robot.

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  • Oct 09, 2000 9:23:14 AM CDT

    Response to CFBABE

    by drlecter37

    Hey, cfbabe. A friend of mine told me that rumor. He said he saw it at a website. He's not exactly a reliable source. I was just throwing another option out there that made sense. If it's part of something you wrote, I apologize. I did not know.

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  • Oct 09, 2000 9:30:56 AM CDT

    I'm a big fan (obviously)..

    by scott ridley

    ...Ridley has had something of a return to form with Gladiator and I'm hoping for better things with Hannibal, with luck G.I. Jane,1492 and White Squall will just become painful memories.However, if he become's Mr Sequel I'm going to get really pissed off. I've always considered Scott better than Cameron (slightly) and a well written T3 would be good material but I respect him as the originator of project's not as 'director for hire', let the other guy's do the sequels.Arnold's maybe getting a bit old for the Terminator now though.

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  • Oct 09, 2000 9:51:24 AM CDT

    T3: It's the military stupid!

    by robred1

    Come on people!! Doesn't anyone realize that Cyberdine was a MILITARY DEFENSE CONTRACTOR!!! Do you people seriously think the government did not know about, control, and demand copies of EVERYTHING that company did!!! That is only ONE possible way to give credibility to a sequel. THe other is a temperal prequel. Tell the story of the human/terminator war in the future, before the events of T2 changed the future. Show everything from the holocaust to the John Conner leading the first resistance in an internment camp to John Conner giving Kile his instructions before sending him back (read the novelization of T2 for this incredibe sceen). The fact is, most of the people posting here just don't have enough imagination to come up with good stories themselves, so they assume no one else can either.

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  • Oct 09, 2000 11:15:26 AM CDT

    There is a point

    by robred1

    Telling the story of the fight in the future is, in my opinion, the best idea. Telling it form the point of view of a John Conner who only knows about the events of T1 allows for a lot of dramatic tension. It becomes a story about human sacrifice and choices. John knows he will win the war, but at what cost. How many missions does he let his mother go on and risk her life? How many poeple does he send into the meat-grinder to allow a few more to fight on? How much does he tell those around him about what he knows? And how involved do you get with a man your own age or even younger that you know you will have to send back in time to become your father and die? It could become the ultimate sci-fi war story if it is done right. Of course, it doesn't sound like anyone involved in the project has the slightest clue, but we can still dream.

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  • Oct 09, 2000 11:21:12 AM CDT

    I like you Sully, dat's why I'm going to kill yoo lahst

    by powderkeg

    Any of you talkbackers in the Network Administration field? If you aren't, heres a tidbit: It is common practice for most businesses to have their system backed up and stored off-site on a daily or weekly basis. This is in case of fire, earthquake, Austrian cyborg invasion, etc.

    My prediction for T3 plot: The evil Cyberdyne management buys some new office space in the industrial complex across town, birngs all their staff back (minus Dyson and a few security guards), after all, the entire staff was safe at home that night, they do a restore on their brand new servers, and they're back in bidniss. I'm sure Dyson wasn't the only one on that project...

    Then again, I haven't seen the movie in awhile so I may have forgotten a line or two that would disprove me. Tell me if I'm wrong!

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  • Oct 09, 2000 11:53:49 AM CDT

    I'll direct T3

    by kyle.reese

    Just gimme a blue screen, a PC and Schwarzenegger, and I'll make your movie.

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  • Oct 09, 2000 1:10:34 PM CDT

    T4 on the way also, if T3 does good of course...

    by cfbabe

    Theres also a T4 on the way, so the thing about tension between kyle and John (father and son) will be in it.

    Oh and I've heard all of the T3 jokes already. It starts out being serious and ends up mocking the damn movie in a comedic light. ITS ANNOYING STOP IT ALREADY!! IT AINT FUNNY ANYMORE!!

    By the way, my name was a freak accident. I would never sign on as "cfbabe" it it wasnt.

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  • Oct 09, 2000 1:51:05 PM CDT

    Be sure to tell the writer to...

    by xnoumis

    ...write in a maid to follow the troupe through their escapades picking up all the errant pieces of future-tech as they go so that the possibility of another sequel can go the way of the dodo.
    Personally, I think a T3 will do the same damage Alien3 did - REALLY REALLY SCREW UP THE FRANCHISE.
    (By the way - isn't it fucked that we call things that are supposed to be simply entertainment a purely business word like "franchise". I'll take a T3 with fries please. Hold the onions.)

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  • Oct 09, 2000 3:19:59 PM CDT

    GLADIATOR WAS AWFUL !!!!!!!!!!! (seriously)

    by no.6

    Nuff said !

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  • Oct 09, 2000 4:42:30 PM CDT

    T2K

    by cranium

    Can we get a morphing robot made out of rubber putty this time? Kind of like The Thing, but with squeaky noises? Seriously, the only way to up T1000 would be to do something that can morph INTO GUNS. Internal weapons-systems that operate off the robot's batteries (lasers, tasers), with the ability to emulate and combine new ones, as contemporary ammo is found. I wanna see Robert Patrick eat thousands of rounds, continously spewing the bullets back at the attackers. Give me morphing small-arms extremities!

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  • Oct 09, 2000 4:49:58 PM CDT

    suck my elaboration

    by cranium

    It would be liquid bullet Judo! Can't you just see the bullets slamming into his chest, shooting out like curved wires out of his back and being re-directed into his machine-gun arm, all at lightning speeds?!?

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  • Oct 10, 2000 1:15:58 AM CDT

    Sequels are almost always big piles of ass. . .

    by sith lord jesus

    . . .especially when they don't have anything new to add to the story in question. If Ridley Scott is attached AND if they can put together a really good script AND if they can get top-notch performances out of their actors AND (notice all the "ands?") if they can scrape together enough cash to do this up right it may not be the cinematic-disaster-just-waiting-to-happen that it right now looks to be. But we'll see, I suppose.

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  • Oct 11, 2000 5:07:05 AM CDT

    Time traveling, well duh!

    by dapumkins

    Hmm...Doesn't anyone realize that anything is possible with time travel? That at the sime time T2 was happening, there could be more robots sent to arive again but earlier or later? There's tons of possiblities. Time travel doesnt' make a whole lotta sense logicly, but for this movie it means there's no end. I won't get into my theories but if they used time travel then all of these torn off arm/chip theories are garbage. The robots coulda sent another T-1000 back way back in time for backup. They coulda sent a T-1000 packin a cd with all the tech needed that spreads a little virus in everyone's computers.. DOES ANYONE HAVE THEIR EYES OPEN? I mean holy shit they coulda sent a robot to the FUTURE to get technology to go back to that time, to end the all the humans. I could go on and on. Would this work in a script? Well who knows.

    Sorry for being an ass, I can be when I see things others don't.


    Robert

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  • Mar 08, 2001 5:58:42 AM CST

    Now here's an idea!

    by dr.jeffzn

    How 'bout a remake of T2.
    With the exact same crew.
    The whole idea of a new Terminator movie is stupid enough as it is!

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