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Mariah Carey as WONDER WOMAN
The headline says it all. IMDB and several other outlets are reporting that Mariah Carey is all set to be WONDER WOMAN... that she's in discussions and might be signed on. Ummmm... No. Right? I just can't comprehend the mind that comes up with this casting. I just... I just don't get it. Whatever... It's Warner Brothers again. After smart decisions on BATMAN YEAR ONE and BATMAN BEYOND live action film.... They were bound to have a mental blowout. Let's just hope they have a spare...
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It should read Mariah Carey is VEER'S WOMAN.
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Please don't ruin another superhero this way. WB - Stop sucking so much!
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Only fourth, bitches.
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She must be able to suck-start a Harley.
At least she'll fill out the bustier...
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...this film is being made with a built-in self-destruct mechanism! very clever WB!
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Does WB have any idea how laughable this is? I mean, there is no possible way they could make a serious run at this film with her in it. This is a woman that puts on a strand of pocket lint and cufflink and tries to say she is "...really just a shy girl." Are you fucking kidding me? Sure, I'd pin her ankles at her ears, but only so it would be easier to blow it in her face when I'm done. She doesn't even get respect from other entertainers...now she's acting?! In a superhero role no less, I mean, Al Pacino could take a superhero role and still not be taken 100% seriously by the industry...these people are out of control...there is some nepatism going on somewhere in this disaster...first they fuck Batman Beyond and now they are embarrassing the only true feminist icon in the comic book industry...good job WB...you guys are doing some supergood stuff! keep it up!........christ.......
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I first read this pile of crap in a comic tabloid in the UK a few days ago called the Daily Star. It spews up crap castings and bogus plot lines on a daily basis and it's hit rate for accurate stories is laughably low.....lets hope this is not an exception
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This is probably just tabloid crap.
But, even if true, this is not the worst casting to come out of Hollywood this year... at least WW _might_ be written as a campy comedy. If somebody thinks Ben Affleck can seriously play Jack Ryan, well then nothing surprises me anymore. -
Classy journalism, hard hitting news and they discovered Kelly Brook.
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Now I'll definitely know not to waste my seven bucks on this. BTW, who's going to play the villian--her goon ex-hubby Tommy Boy Mottola? Is Derek Jeter going to make a cameo as Superman?
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admittedly it did find Kelly Brook (whoops just cum) but when it comes to movie news who cares about it. Let them give us the girls and stay out of publishing bollocks
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That's the heart of the matter here. I think that comic characters should change race more when they go to the big screen anyway. Sam Jackson woulda kicked ass as Prof. X, and the Rock does a perfect Superman. This is a fucking big budget WB picture for crying out loud, don't expect so much excelence. Hell, I don't even like Mariah Carrey's music (even her), but this could be interesting to see her play this part.
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Oct 05, 2000 9:56:26 AM CDT
Mariah Carey?! An 8 YEAR OLD could come up with a BETTER IDEA!
by bitterman
Boy, I hope this is some WB exec's idea of testing the waters, just to see what fan reaction might be! Here's my reaction: GODDAMMIT! How about Brittany Spears, for crissakes!
The WB has no idea what to do with Wonder Woman, what the f**k happened to that new TV series? Dammit, this kinda stuff just makes my entire weekend BITTER! These people at the WB should make Paul Dini and Bruce Timm senior executives and have them overhaul all of the DC heroes! All of them! (even freakin Ambush Bug!) -
WW is an amazon. A taller actress, regardless of race, is needed to properly fulfill the role. Carey is too small and too soft for the role. Call me "size-ist" if you must...
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Oct 05, 2000 10:04:19 AM CDT
Is she going to use that annoying dolphine noise/only dogs can h
by iamlegolas
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Oct 05, 2000 10:06:50 AM CDT
Great, is this going to be aimed at the pseudo-gangsta rap/hooch
by darqleo
And will she have some Will Smith like end song that will go to the top of the charts??
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Catherine Zeta-Jones, even if she did give it up to that old ass monkey Michael Douglas. Mariah Carey? What the hell are they thinking? Have you ever heard an interview with her speaking? God, what an iritating voice.
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Oct 05, 2000 10:19:39 AM CDT
I can here Mariah's update of the Wonder Women theme in my head
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(backing singers)-"Wonder WoMan" (Maria)-"WaaaaAAAwaAaoOHHHeWeeeOOOOOOoooooooooooooo" Your cat is now begging for mercy.
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I was enjoying reading the facts as extrapolated from the data, BATTLE POSTER rules.
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That's right, I've got the official, unrated, unedited, Warner Home Video goods! For more info, see my post on the BB:ROTJ talkback. I can send QT video of a scene to prove I'm for real. The bids are currently up to $150. (incredible, huh?) Send bids and requests to auntywb@yahoo.com
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I give-up. Warner Bros. studios is evil incarnate. Once again they've proven that they just don't get it.
I'm tired of disappointment after disappointment. This is the most horrifying news (if true) ever.
So WB you win. I'm tired of it all. The only thing left to do is watch it all happen with the same kind of disturbing attention the scence of a terrible car accident gets. -
THERE IS JUST NO WAY!!!!! IT SMACKS OF SOUNDTRACK MARKETING!!!!
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What is going on? This is not good casting, it has nothing to do with race, it has to do with talent. Do ya' think she can act? Unless of course the script calls for WW to just stand around and occassionally beat on the bad guys. Also over on Dark Horizons they actually have a sound bite from her saying she wants to do a fun film and this script is funny. Umm anyone review it yet? Is this a return to the campy 60s?Please god no. And on the same note, I love Sandra Bullock, but I don't know if she could have done this role. King Grinch had some good casting ideas, and Catheine Zeta-Jones has the right look, so hopefully this is just rudimentary gossip that will disappear in a week or two...please please please
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Mariah Carey has about as much of a chance at being WW as I do! (Sure, why not, I'm your average built female, which means I couldn't hold up WW's bustier unless I had a couple of ample sized water balloons.)
Don't tell me anyone actually believes this shit?! Besides, do you really think that a WW will just pop into existance? Look how long it's taken for a Spider-Man movie to even begin...shit, production hasn't started yet and we're still reading rumors about casting for that movie yet.
My choice for WW...Chyna from the WWF.
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It's far to easy to bash this ridiculousness, so I won't. CZ Jones would be great, but I wouldn't call her "well-endowed". "Averagely endowed", maybe. By the way, I defy you to name one marketable villian who would appear in this mess. Go on, name one WW villian! Besides the Cheetah! Try it! I say Willem Dafoe as the Joker.
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Warner, those who don't learn from the past are destined to repeat it.... three little words:
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Then, they can cast Macauley Calkin as Terry McGinnis in Batman Beyond and Sly Stallone as Bruce Wayne in Batman Year One. In other words: THESE ARE ALL BAD CASTING IDEAS!!!! Wake up and smell the espresso!! WB, I can't believe you'd be THIS stupid! Here's a list of the women who could play WW: everyone BUT Mariah Carey. Burt Reynolds could play WW better than Mariah, except I don't think he has the cleavage to do it. Best choices in my opinion? Catherine Zeta-Jones or Elizabeth Hurley. Post it!
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It would make just as much sense.
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Ahem, sorry about that.
The problem with Mariah has nothing to do with race, height, ultrasonic voices, or cleavage. The problem is, she's not an actress. To do a good movie you need more than just window dressing, regardless of how little the dressing is, Bayman & Robin should have proved that. This is the biggest problem facing any comic book movie. Movie studios have no respect for any of these characters. They see them as nothing more than childish drawings that are marketable. They ignore the fact that these are established characters with more history than most other fictional creations. As long as they ignore the potential of this medium, they'll keep putting out crap and holding back good films. -
NO executive could be THAT stupid! Could they...? Hmmmmm? Could they...? Awww, s#!t! It's gonna happen isn't it? Man, first Brian Michael Bendis gives Spidey the organic web shooters and now this! LAME!!!!!!
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This cum dumpster will never break into movies. When the buying public sends her to her knees with empty seats for a movie that should never be made. Linda Gray butchered it enough on that moronic t.v. show. It won't even be in the theater long enough for a complete showing. This cum drinker got to where she is by dropping to her KNEES for Tommy Matola. Ho.
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Oct 05, 2000 11:52:59 AM CDT
I can't believe this will happen. How can it possibly be that WB
by sdg
WONDER WOMAN is one of the only classical super-heroines who isn't a female version of a male super-hero. As silly as she's been at times (and what super-hero hasn't been silly, including [especially!] Batman), she has always deserved more respect than she's gotten. She does not deserve to be played by a singer whose chief qualification is her ability to wear the costume (as crucial as that might be). The posters would be lovely I'm sure, since Mariah knows how to strike a pose; but as soon as she has to move and talk there is no reason to believe she could ever be Wonder Woman.
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As I'm sure lots of people will note. And what's your beef? The WW show was silly/campy, but so was Batman, and he's still the greatest superhero of all time.
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Has a new ability that lets her hit unpleasant high notes that not only make humans wimper and cry, but call any dog within a 10 mile radius to her aid. Oh wait thats Mariah in real life.
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Oct 05, 2000 11:59:09 AM CDT
Startling secret revealed! Singer Mariah Carey is part of a gov
by superninja
News at 11:00. I have to say, I don't care. Okay, I do, but just because Carey really rubs me the wrong way. It sounds like they're going the spoof route with this. Wonder Woman doesn't interest me unless 1) they set it during WWII or 2) she's interacting with other superheroes. She's just not interesting enough on her own.
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She would be good for it. At least for the look, I've never seen her act. She's definately a big, hot amazon...
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I liked her in MASK OF ZORRO (great movie) and even ENTRAPMENT (average movie), and I bet she would be a fine WW. As far as the "endowment" issue goes, that's hardly an issue these days: cf. Sigourney's impressive-looking cleavage in GALAXY QUEST. No to Sandra Bullock on the grounds of her voice alone.
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Chyna from the WWF. Not that I would ever want that to see the light of day. Can we just get another unknown? A beautiful, TALL, buff young woman waiting to get her break in Hollywood? They arrive by the busload daily. Catherine Zeta Jones wouldn't be half bad, but I'm tired of her being suggested for every sexy comic book character. Her and Angelina Jolie as EVERY FEMALE CHARACTER IN COMICS EXISTENCE -- riiiiight. Lucy Lawless wouldn't be half bad either, but everyone would register her as Xena immediately. What about the lovely Victoria Pratt from Cleo2525 with her hair dyed black? She's jobless now that Cleo's being canned. Beautiful, buff, and a fair actress I'd say.
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Oct 05, 2000 12:08:46 PM CDT
Julie Strain looks like a drag queen with balloons taped to her
by superninja
Just my opinion.
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What's with casting Mariah Carey as Wonder Woman? Makes as little sense as casting Will Smith as James West. Maybe Warner Bros. just doesn't get it.
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Oct 05, 2000 12:34:28 PM CDT
I thought that BRUCE CAMPBELL had already been signed as WW...!?
by vondoom
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Although I bet an 'invisible plane' saves a lot of special effects money that we can spend on Wonder Woman's new ragged jeans and teased perm look. I wonder if Mariah has taken to sleeping with film execs like she did with record execs.
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Ok, what is the problem here?! They have got to be kidding with this Mariah Carey stuff. I don't understand why Wonder Woman always seems to bring the truly ridiculous out in people. All that seems to come to people's minds are porn stars and the like playing the role. Wonder Woman was supposed to be a role model and a leader with style, grace and power. It seems like people can't get past star-power anymore. That is one reason why The Phantom Menace stunk so bad - part of Superman and Star Wars' original thinking was that all of the stars WERE the roles - they had no readily identifiable baggage. Christopher Reeves WAS Superman to us, Mark Hamill WAS Luke, Carrie Fisher WAS Leia, etc etc. Wonder Woman is not another Batman, content with brooding in the shadows. She needs to be a commanding woman of substance, and an actress able to LEAD the film. My personal opinion is that she should be a relatively unknown... but barring that, lets go back to some of the better, original rumors of Terry Farrell or Lucy Lawless. They have the manner and talent for the role. And unlike in Batman, Linda Carter should get a cameo... maybe the leader of the Amazons?
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The cleavage is gonna steal the show...but Damn! get Sandra Bullock or KRiSTA ALLEN! meow!
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Either Carrie-Anne Moss or CZ Jones would be ideal, and Shannon Elizabeth would do pretty well, too. I don't even want to see Mariah's name on the soundtrack. And they should lose the campy shit. Treat her seriously but fun.
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KIM SMITH or BRITNEY SPEARS is better too. Admit it, we need someone hot. Mariah Carey is a joke. Without a doubt in my mind. She isn't WW and she isn't going to play her.
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which smegma-sucking hollywood suit (or group of suits) came up with this doozy of an idea? let's see -- we won't look at an actual drawing of wonder woman; hell, we won't even watch five minutes of the ONE, the ONLY, live-action wonder woman, lynda carter. no, we'll pull demographic data out of our assholes, wipe off the brown goop, gussy it up with the help of someone really intelligent (someone with a kindergarten degree) wunderkind from the marketing department, and BANG, you've got what avid so beautifully calls sloppy bitch with flabby tits. i'm a 35-year-old man and with the right pumps, i could be a better wonder woman. nuff fucking said. 'cept hollywood bitches.
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I don't think your comment that "fanboys" are racist belongs here, I only took a cursory look at the comments, but not one of the complaints I heard had anything to do with race. The fact that someone is suggesting Catherine-Zeta Jones proves that. Wonder Woman, I think, would not be a caucasian woman, being an Amazon from some island(I assume) in the Caribbean or close to it, she would more likely be closer to a South American ethnicity. I do think, however, that arguments can be made for the other side, they are obviously of European descent(they worship Greek gods, I believe), so the Amazons could be settlers. Who knows, but I think Mariah can't play this part, because big chested or not, she's a tiny little thing, I have no opinion on her acting ability, but I'm willing to bet it's sub-par.
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Wonder Woman, in either its comic book or television incarnations, has only ever really been about two things -- kitsch, and good ole fashioned T&A. For that reason alone, I think Mariah Carey is absolutely the PERFECT choice to fill out those magnificent star-spangled undies. That it helps open up a geeky fan-boy role -- normally the sole domain of those of the Caucasian persuasion -- to a minority actress is just icing on the cake.
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Jack Ryan is the book's author, Tom Clancy an old, bitter man who hates actors- he might as well play him because he always said the character-was based on himself alone. Interesting tidbit: The guy who invented Wonder Woman with her golden lasso that makes people tell the truth -also invented the lie detector. Now, in a Batman Year One story what do u fellas think about Vince Vaughn in the role as the Dark Crusader in a kind of Phantom Of The Opera persona (not in a bad uncharacteristic way)-elevating ol' Bats to levels of legend and mythology.
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Oct 05, 2000 1:23:33 PM CDT
And please delete Skiprat's post, it's screwing up the talkback,
by wungolioth
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Just what we fuckin need. Another UNORIGINAL, POS movie that some hack shit out, starring some overplayed, overpayed, OVERRATED pop icon. This is bullshit. What's wrong with an ORIGINAL concept for once, with a decent, real talent? Fucking Hollywhore crackheads. Gimme something like The Rock, or The Exorcist, or the 1989 Batman. Give us something WORTH OUR 4 BUCKS FOR FUCK'S SAKE!
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Oct 05, 2000 1:37:27 PM CDT
BTW, Harry, please ban Skiprat for fucking up the script yet aga
by jopapa
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It's brought us TalkBackers together like few things ever have. ;^) And in the end, isn't that what really matters? Just think about it. For me, reading over this TalkBack, seeing the unity -- the harmony -- among so many people, who are all so different, in so many ways... well, it just about gives me new hope for humanity. Yes, we may fight forever about Episode 1 or The Cell, but underneath it all, in so many ways, aren't we really all the same? That's so special. And just think, we have Mariah Carey -- and of course our lovely friends over at the WB -- to thank for it all. They're the ones who've brought us all together. Let's give them all a hand.
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As a childhood fan of Wonder Woman (I even used to twirl around my living room like Lynda Carter), I must protest this casting rumor. My God, the mere idea of that shrieky little bitch being my childhood superhero makes me want to slit my wrists in agony. Get Sandra Bullock, Catherine Zeta-Jones, even Bruce Campbell for all I care. Just DON'T cast Mariah Carey.
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Catherine is British (Welsh), not Hispanic (the fact that people seem to think otherwise is apparently a testimony to her convincing accent in MASK OF ZORRO opposite the authentically Hispanic Antonio Bandaras).
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I hope I don't get banned for that. It was nothing personal.Was anyone else just entranced by that lovely little Dark Angel girl? I know the show sucked, but watching her was a pure pleasure.
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That's all I have to say.
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No time to talk back i have to go buy heaters . . . . Hell just froze over
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Banderas is actually a native of Spain. And while people often use Spanish and Hispanic interchangeably in the vernacular, the term "Hispanic" (at least in its Affirmative Action definition, which tends to be the only place where such things matter in any real sense) actually refers to natives, or descendents of natives, of Latin America -- the Spanish and Portuguese speaking countries of Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Mexico. This produces some interesting results, such as the fact that Brazilian basketball legend Oscar Schmidt (who is of German heritage) and Argentinian tennis player Gabriella Sabatini (whose parents hail from Italy) are thus considered "Hispanic," while Antonio, who is from Spain, or myself (whose family comes from Portugal) are considered Caucasian.
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This is the same studio who only yesterday were backtracking like crazy with possibly the best superhero animated film of all time, from all accounts. This is the same studio who gave Joel Shitmaker TWO, not one, but goddamn TWO attempts at kicking batman in the balls. (I still marvel at the creative process that allows them to disavow any acknowledgement of the Fox/ Adam West batman incatnation at the time of Batman's release in 89, saying that it bore no resemblance to their vision, that it was childish......and then, a very few years later, show Arnie as Mr Freeze leading his henchmen in a singalong to "Frosty the Snowman" or something depressingly similar.) So.....having said that, am I surprised that they consider Mariah Carey for Wonder Woman ? Hell no ! Does she have acting experience worthy of this part ? Hell no. Does she even LOOK like Wonder Woman ? Hell no ! Last I saw, Wonder Woman was an Amazon, who MUST be in the region of 6 ft tall. Carey on the other hand, is a stunted dwarf who has to have some inches optically added to her legs to make her appear taller and sleeker on an album cover a couple of years ago.
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Actually, according to my Webster's New World Dictionary, the term "Hispanic" properly means either "Spanish" or else "Spanish and Portuguese." No mention at all of Latin America etc. So my usage is correct; it's the P.C. affirmative-action sense that is colloquial.
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Why is this gutter slut bitch rumored to be cast. Who's going to be on the soundtrack? A duet of her and Master P?
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Im sorry but this is lame.
Can they ever at least try to be true characters. Wonder woman has a long history. I dont agree with that channging the race of the charaters jive. Take storm, what
if Julia Roberts would have played Storm? That would have been silly in my view. Denzel Washington as Wolverine? That doesnt make sense either. They should at least stay as true to the characters as possible when they go the live action route. At least as far as racial identity is concerned. Thats why these movies always suck. name me one of these video game/comic movies that actually stayed true to the characters and still managed to suck. Are there any? If so very few. They oughta realize that the reason they can even make these movies are because of the fans. Maybe they should please them for a change instead of trying to go mainstream.
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Ahem..
Joel Schumacher:
Batman Forever
Batman and Robin
Joel Silver: Mariah Carey as Wonder Woman
Assuming that this is true, then men named Joel should NEVER EVER EVER EVER be allowed to work on a comic book adaptation again. I mean no one named Joel should be involved with casting, directing or prroducing. If any of the actors are named Joel, from the leading man down to the extras, Hell, if any ACTRESSES named Joel (or Mariah) are involved, then the project will most likely be doomed. Ther should be no cameramen, makeup artists, stuntmen, hairdressers, PA's, grips, animators, sound engineers, or caterers named Joel. If a bootleg copy of the shooting script is reviewed by a guy named Joel, then the production should just be cancelled, lest it fall to THE CURSE OF THE JOEL...
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Oct 05, 2000 3:29:41 PM CDT
IS THE INVISIBLE MAN GOING TO BE IN THIS ONE TOO AS HER BOYFRIEN
by uncapie
"I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS, BUT BOY, DOES MY ASS HURT!"
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Anyways, I think there is a resounding agreement here, get Skiprat's post the hell out of here! And Mariah Carrey (although very hot) sucks. She's not an actress, her music blows, and she's an idiot! She has to be one of the least intelligent celebreties out there. Anyone catch her on Letterman last spring? -
Who the hell cares about WW's ethnic background? She's always been portrayed as a white Amazon chick. Anybody bother to read the Amalgam Comics when DC and Marvel merged a few years ago? They did an edition called Amazon, where Storm from the X-Men won the right to be WW, beating Diana in the battle. An African woman was convincing enough to me to be WW. And yes, I realize it was just a comic. You want to debate WW's background? SHE WAS MADE OF CLAY by Queen Hippolyta because she was lonely for a child. So if the actress's background is going to be a factor, get someone DIRTY, like say, hmmm, Courtney Love!
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Jennifer Lopez jumped on the gravy train when this whole Latino wave gushed over the dam...she was a crap actress and then she jumped into the recording industry and became a crap singer. Whoa, she did win a Latino grammy, so that must mean she has some talent! COME ON! She could be Wonder Woman if Will Smith could be a black secret agent in the South right near the Civil War era...Are these people sucking the glass dick? (smoking crack, for those unfamiliar).
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Oct 05, 2000 4:50:36 PM CDT
There's a movie coming out soon about the casting of the Wonder
by doctorcreep
It's called Get Linda Carter. From the looks of this post I guess it has a sad ending.
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I saw Jennifer Lopez winning some award on the MTV Music awards. That getup she was wearing, all white and sparkly, kind of like "Gangsta Bitch Barbie," made her look like hell! But if we are talking appearance here, she mightbe a pretty good Cheetah. And like someone posted earlier, there really are no other WW villians, unless you count the Nazis she was first fighting way back when.
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Oct 05, 2000 5:28:56 PM CDT
While Preparing For the Part, Mariah Got Tangled Up In WW's Magi
by buzz maverik
"Okay, Mariah, with that lassoo around you, you have to tell the truth. Did you know that the creator of Wonder Woman, William Moulton Marston was a psychologist and also invented the lie detector?" "No." "Well, he did. Here's some questions we'd like the truth on. Can you act your way out of a paper bag?" "Better than Madonna. Better than Whitney. Better than Jewel. Better than Tina Turner." "Cool. All the geeks want to know which you prefer. George Perez or John Byrne." "Perez, of course. His Wonder Woman rocked." "So far, not only are you telling the truth, but you're right. Did you ever see that Byrne Superman story that opened--" "With Superman kissing Wonder Woman on the splash page? Yes, I did. It was great." "So you'd like to kiss Superman?" "Depending on who plays him." "Nicolas Cage?" "Sure." "Brendan Fraser?" "Definitely. He'd probably be the best current choice for Superman." "That is the truth." "You know, in Kingdom Come, Superman got Wonder Woman pregnant." "Yeah, I know." "They were older, but it didn't matter since they're both immortal, pretty much. Batman became the godfather." "I know, Mariah, I read Kingdom Come." "I really didn't like Alex Ross' take on Wonder Woman all that much, Buzz. He didn't capture her beauty the way Perez or Byrne did." "Yeah, that's the trouble with realism. It's too real." "I don't like things that are too real either." "So are you going to be fighting the Cheetah in the movie?" "I hope so. I want them to do a traditional take on the character, complete with the arch enemy and the Amazons and all of that." "I think you'll be a pretty good Wonder Woman, Mariah. I mean, I don't know if you can act, but you're athletic with all the dancing and you're good looking enough." "Thanks, Buzz. I know Zeta-Jones is the front runner because she looks exactly like the way the character is drawn but I think she's going to be stuck doing Michael Douglas old-fart movies for a while. And making movies with John Cusack. What's up with that? This is two in a row. He's a good actor and he's kind of cute in a regular guy way, but is anybody going to believe he can score with Catherine Zeta-Jones? Also, they talked about Sandra Bullock and she can be good, and she's nice looking, but she's not exotic enough." "That's what I always thought, Mariah. She could play the Wasp or Black Canary fine. I wonder if she still has her Demoliton Man moves." "Demolition Man was a stupid movie." "Like I said, that lassoo makes you always tell the truth."
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Yes, it is her fanboys! THE Wonder Woman!
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"She's got tits like a sparrow."
Maybe she'll cover the wonder woman theme song on her next album. "oooooh your a, oooooooh woooondeeeer, wonder wonder wonder wonder wonder wooomaaaan!"
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Since AICN is influential I guess that Jenny may read this offer for marriage.Whatever other AICN talk-backers say I am the good guy.Please marry me.....
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Oct 05, 2000 7:16:03 PM CDT
Oh my God! Stupid Skiprat idiot moron you stretched out the app
by junior d-girl
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O.K., first: Harry, kindly please ban and delete the posts of the asswipe used tampons who turned this Talkback into the 70mm version. Thank you.
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Oct 05, 2000 7:53:55 PM CDT
Laetitia Casta As Wonder Women, Her HooHaa's Are Real (Unlike Ma
by darthpsychotic
If its the jailbait market they're going after it should be Kim Smith or Laetitia Casta (I know shes like 20-22, but she looks jailbait). Now I know I go on about my teenage girl/high girl fetish, but I like older women too. Ageism is against official darthpsychotic
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ONE TWO OH MY GAWD WHAT A *WONDERFUL* IDEA!! Mariah Carey will make a FANTASTIC Wonder Woman! The very thought makes me CREAM MY PANTIES. Because after all, acting ability isn't needed for a role like this. And as for getting someone who *some* might think would be a more plausible WW, like that butch dyke whassername who plays on XENA--give me a break! Lucy Lawless' tits aren't NEAR big enough and anyway she's too scary. And she's old--gotta be in her mid to upper 20's at least! Hey, it's only a soopah-hero flick after all. Just a summer popcorn movie, like PHANTOM MENACE. Or BATMAN AND ROBIN. You're not supposed to take it seriously. Lighten up!! It'll just be a good ol' two hours of fun and T&A and action and T&A and car chases and T&A and explosions and special effects. And T&A, oh, can't forget that. Script? We don't need no steenkin' script! People don't see these things for plot and acting, that'll just make their little heads hurt. But perhaps the concerns of some people are correct. Perhaps Meriah isn't quite the right person to play everyone's faveorite Piece of A--er, I mean Amazon. Perhaps we should get whoever it is who plays 6 of 9 on VOYAGER. Or maybe we should go with. . .wait! I've got it! Britney Spears! Oooh, she's *much* prettier then Meriah and can sell more CD's, too! Why, she could do the whole soundtrack all by herself! And look at the warheads on THAT battleship, eh? Wooo-deedy is this film gonna rock hard. I can't wait. Well, gotta go now--time for another hit from the crack pipe. See you at the movies.
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Hey, gang. There were actually three of you I had to delete before the TALK BACKS got back to normal. Admittedly, Skiprat wins biggest retard of the day award for his spectacular abuse of the exclamation point. When are people going to realize that just saying "NOOOO!!!!" isn't original or funny? Anyhow... this should fix it. Resume your well-justified bitching at this idiotic casting notion.
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For fixing the Talkback.
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....Mariah Carey is a mulatt (did I write that right???) And yes she's a dumb bimbo (but some of her music, f. example "Hero", is actually good!!!) My vote for WW would be Shannon Elizabeth or that karate-chick from that Bond-flick! Oh, and Battleposter is funny. I would like to get my own stick. Oh,I know. I'll end all my posts with "And that
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Where most hot women who can't act start out. In porn films. I'd pay 8 bucks to see that.
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WONDER WOMAN IS NOTHING BUT CAMP!
i CAN SOMETIMES UNDERSTAND FANBOYS INTENSE FEELINGS FOR THEIR FAVORITE COMICS OF YORE(ie.BTMAN,SPIDEY)BUT COME ON, WONDER WOMAN FOR CHRIS'SAKE!
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING MISS BUTTERFLY IN THE SKIMPY SUIT WITH HER NEW YAWK ACCENT.OR BETTER YET LET HER PLAY DEBRA WINGER'S OLD ROLE AND CAST ROSIE PEREZ AS WW!NOW THEY WOULD MAKE A HELL OF A TEAM. -
I was shopping this baby around for a while to all the bigshots. Let me show you good people a brief taste.
Scene: WW has been k.O.ed by the Nazi Villain Henreich Hell. She comes too naked and bound in her magic laso
Hell: Zo Zlut! You creeped in Heetlers bunker but now you are mein prisoner!
WW: You fiend! Let me loose!
Hell: Never you vunder whore
Hitler: Vat in der Hell?
Hell: Ein gift to you Hitler. Zese capitalist swine girl is your to command. Now Zuck on his one testicle you vilthy swine girl.
WW: I must suck on his one testicle. I am filthy. I am swine.
Hitler Ach! Mein Got dat iz zoooo goot. Yah yah yah OOOOOO yaaaaah..... Mein gootnes, Zudenly I dont veel like keeling or making wart anymore. I juzt veel zo tired
WW SAVES THE WORLD!
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Kim Smith, or Krista Allen, Britney Spears, that new Tomb Raider girl around 17 years old, that forget her name now.. 'Christmas Jones' from TWINE. Take your pick from the above. that's where it's @
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Ho-leee shit!!!
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CZ Jones would be a perfect choice....Mariah Carey? u guys r f****** nuts!!!
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Completely wrong for the part for all the reasons stated above. And I thought Sandra Bullock was a bad choice...*********************************************************************************************** Here's how it should work: the actress playing WW must be both an acting talent and DROP DEAD, MAKES YOU WEAK IN THE KNEES GORGEOUS. That's just the way it's gotta be. She must also be at least as beatiful as Lynda Carter. Anything else will feel like a letdown. IMHO, that narrows the list down to: Catherine Zeta Jones, Terry Farrel, and Lauren Graham (from that new Gilmore Girls show). Lucy Lawless would be on that list too, but she would never play the part as it's too similiar to Xena. That's my 2 cents.
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..only if Mariah is completely nude throughout it.
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Since when did anyone seriously think a Wonder Woman movie would require an actress of exceptional talent? No REAL actress would take the role in the first place. Catherine Zeta Jones? Forget it, she wouldn't go near this movie with a ten foot pole. Neither would Harmon or all the other names that popped up. The only one who would ever take this role is a newbie. And Carey's just as good as the next newbie.
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That was kind of weird...but it resolves what happened to Hitler, kinda, not really, shut up! A friend of mine thought it was brilliant though, and wants to be in the real picture, and I said you would do it for him. His name? Dr. Harry Wiener! The one guy who said it won't happen is right, like Freddie Prinze for Spidey, or the guy from Angel for Bruce Wayne...they will get someone better, or they will jam thrre fingers up oldest person's anal passage. I don't know, I am tremendously drunk right now, and as Eddie Murphy once said, "I think this shit is funny!" Hasta Nalgas! -DANI FOOTBALLER HO MACKER!
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If this is true, I can only assume DC has given up on feature films altogether. And I can almost imagine that. "Batman & Robin" tanked, and Marvel stole their thunder with "Blade", "X-Men", and come next Summer, probably "Spider-Man" as well. Still, it's hard to believe they'd be driven to such desperation as to sacrifice the single great icon among female superheroes for the vanity of a trashy pop singer. Mariah's got looks, no doubt, and I enjoyed a certain seamy satisfaction as over the years she's transitioned from bubblegum-pop good girl to R&B sex-kitten, BUT...the truth is that she has no discernable talent beyond her looks. Well, maybe a talent for earning vast sums of wealth, but what the hell good does that do me? She's so un-Wonder Woman, I'd consider this news a joke if not for the IMDB source. Until I hear that contracts have been signed, though, I intend to hold onto a little kernel of childlike hope that this is just a rumor that hit the mainstream. Wonder Woman has gone through so many lame and campy incarnations, I can't stand the thought of her getting dumped on again just when she gets her big screen break. Writer/artist George Perez revamped the character in the 80's, and his 50-issue comic run was so fucking cool that it should be etched in stone as the template for all Wonder Woman stories. Perez dropped the secret identity riff (where Princess Diana became Diana Prince...*groan*) and the cornball inviso-jet too. Instead, he strengthened Wonder Woman's ties to Greek myth, giving her the power of flight, for instance, as a magical gift from the god Hermes (dude with wings on his feet, y'know?). Perez played up the "stranger in a strange land" concept as Wonder Woman adjusted to America after being raised on an Amazon island for most of her life. What was cool was that she was supposed to be a messenger of peace, but she still had that whole Amazon warrior thing going on in spades. So her fights tended to be no-nonsense, brutal affairs. I remember her ripping off the tail of her arch-foe, the Cheetah, and beating her with it. I remember her decapitating the Medusa with her tiara-thingy. Fought lots of cool monsters from Greek myth instead of lame crooks and supervillains. Very Ray Harryhausen. The real key to the comic, though, was that Perez just made a hell of a character out of her and wrote some of the smartest superhero comics I've ever had the pleasure of reading. I can understand that most of the Talkbackers think the character has no more depth than Lara Croft, but trust me, if a movie followed the Perez stories, you could have something as great as Donner's "Superman". Ideally, the role should go to an actress with Greek ancestry and features. Dark hair, tall, and a good body (goes without saying), but leaning more towards athletic than voluptuous I think. She needs to be able to play equal parts noble, compassionate, and fierce. Zeta-Jones is the only decent "name" actress I've heard mentioned, but she might actually be too curvy. Since I'm too provincial to name Greek actresses, I've always figured Julianna "ER" Margulies would make a good choice. Here's an appropriate picture I dug up: http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/fulbourne/133/jm38.jpg
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Oct 06, 2000 5:35:36 AM CDT
Who Gives a Shit, The Movie is Doomed to Be a Major Flop, Anyone
by ayrtonsenna
Does Anyone Inspired to SEE this movie anyway?
Anyone Disagree?
Later.
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So Why the Fuck is everyone so fucken cynical about this piece of shit, Let Mariah fulfill her stupid acting ambition when she should instead be considering a fold in Playboy or Penthouse or somethin, showin us those big fucken titties. A real waste of potential in the wrong field. -
The parking garage was silent. Dark. High end automobiles all around me and I hadn't brought my "special key", the one with all the different colors of paint streaked on its' worn down teeth. But I wasn't here for fun. Suddenly, the peace was broken by a voice:"Why the fuck isn't she on the phone with me right now? As a matter of fact, Benjamin, why the fuck hasn't she already been on the phone with me so my wait is over? Have you forgotten where we parked?" "No, Joel, we're--" "The question wasn't Where did we park, Benjamin! If you haven't forgotten, then I don't need to know. Where is this asswad?" I said,"Asswad, Silver?" "That's right! Asswad! Asshole! Assmonkey!" I laughed. Silver looked at his two assistants and said, "Frisk 'im." "Frisk me? Silver, they're two film school graduates who willingly put up with humiliation from you hoping to get an associate-assistant-coproducer credit on FAIR GAME 2: LOOK AT CINDY'S CHEST. What are they going to do if they find anything?" "FAIR GAME 2? CINDY'S CHEST? You wanna do a script for me?" "You don't need a script for that." "Good point. Why didn't you think of that, Benjamin? Why the hell hasn't Waters already been on the phone and fired by now, Benjamin?" "He just came in a picked up his Lolita poster for this one." "I want that poster back! No script, no poster!" "What is the deal with that poster, anyway?" I asked. "Why do all you Hollywood types have that poster?" "It's a Kubrick film, idiot!" "You don't have Barry Lyndon. Or The Killing. Or Spartagus." "Okay, smart guy, it's a chick eating a lollypop! Which brings us to why we're here in this stinking garage. Bright idea to meet here, dumbass!" "It was your idea, man. I'll get to the point. The AICN Talkbackers don't want Mariah Carey to play Wonder Woman." "That's because you're all a bunch of eunuchs! You probably want Jim Carrey! Say, not a bad idea. Might make a good comedy. Benjamin! Benjamin! Where is Jim Carrey! Maverik here is writing this for us. A drag version of Wonder Woman!" "I'm not writing you a drag version of Wonder Woman." "Wonder Woman at a drag strip? No! Wonder Woman as a stripper! You losers will like that! Benjamin! Find out if Mariah will strip!" "She won't, Joel!" "Don't tell me she won't! Do not refuse me, Benjamin! If you ever want to work in this town, that town, or any town again, you will not refuse me! Not when Maverik here has a great Wonder Woman stripper script up his ass. It'll be sort of like Coyote Ugly -- great flick, Bruckheimer's almost not an idiot-- with super powers! We'll get Christina Aguilera as Black Canary, Brittney Spears as The Phantom Lady and Lee Ann Rimes as Saturn Girl. Lead by Wonder Woman, they'll fight crime by day and by night they'll strip at a bar called the Juggstice League near the airport where Wonder Woman parks her invisible plane! And all the Amazons will be strippers! Benjamin! Give Maverik here a million bucks, then get him on the phone so I can fire his ass!"
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no.......i mean........no...... how can they........no....it doesn't make sense.........no....
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This has Joel Schumacher written all over it. Rubber nipples and butt closeups, anyone?
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The incredible Madonna was rumored to be the next Wonder Woman (with Brett Ratner as director). She's just perfect for the role! She's very funny, and very athletic. She LOOKED like Woonder Woman in A League Of Their Own! Let's face it: Everybody HATES Mariah. Madonna is a FORCE OF THE NATURE! She IS Wonder Woman!
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Some of those suggestions were good: Connelly & Krista Allen especially, but neither is a big enough name to give the Brothers Warner a woody. I think I read somewhere once that a costar said that Connelly is smelly or has hairy pits or some other hygeine thing going on. I have nothing against the girl, but now I can't look at her without thinking that. Has anyone thought of a WW villian yet? Can't do it, right? Angle Man? Jesus, give us a break. And by the way, Julie Strain and Chyna should both be auditioning for the role of Superman instead.
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Lookee here ladies and gents, if you need a REAL Amazon to fill those star-spangled threads, you only need to watch Xena: Warrior Princess this weekend. Tsianina Joelson will play the Amazon warrior Varia in the season opener titled "Coming Home" and she's your girl. Need further proof? Go watch "Bring It On" again sometime, she played Toro cheerleader Darcy. She's your basic double threat, a babe who can definitely kick your a**!
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Who wouldve known? Id like to see her naked though hehehehe.
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I *love* the fanboys who bitch at me for saying things were racist, but when other talkbackers are saying "she's a ghetto bitch" or calling her a "mullato"...that just goes by undetected. and thanks to the guy who said that wonder woman was made from CLAY!!! So many of the fanboys here are racist...think about the times you've beaten your supervillians while looking at pictures of white women in tights...
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Plain and simple. Mariah Carey as WW is a joke. [sarcasm]You're absolutely right. Every superhero should change race when they get their silver screen adaptation. But wait, let's go a step further, because they've got superpowers, that's unfair to people with disabilities. They'll feel bad seeing someone up there performing amazing feats. Superheros all need to be in wheelchairs or on crutches. And blind. And left-handed. With no tonsils.[/sarcasm]
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In it, she plays Wonder Woman. And, you can check out her feature hit soundtrack!
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I didn't say that EVERY SUPERHERO should change race you dumbass! I said it was cool for them to do this...and you DON'T know that Mariah Carrey can act. These same fanboys here applaud Mark Wahlberg, but let's not forget how fucking terrible of a rapper he was when he started out, and then became a decent actor. Now Mariah has a DECENT voice and stage prescence. what means she can't act as well...hell I don't even like her music and I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt. and not every comic book character turned into film has to look like the character. fanboys are so fucking low-brow. I don't see you FUCKS getting pissed when leonardo dicaprio doesn't loook anything like Romeo in Romeo in Juliet or when Ethan Hawke is too fucking YOUNG to play Hamlet. SO COMIC BOOKS are superior to Shakepsear now. your fascists too you fuckwit! "oh jennifer connoley would be great" that bitch has about as much personality as a cock hair. and she's not a fucking NAME...who the fuck would go see a movie starring that bitch! )(I'll give you a hint: no one went to see the last 2 movies she starred in) and let's not get started on catherine zeta jones...she gives a bad name to all people welsh...listen to someone who is from her area talk about that sellout crackwhore. and what about the reverse racism in Zorro when she was playing someone fucking HISPANIC!! fuck that shit
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What about that chick from PROVIDENCE? She's even Greek.
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I did the research the Internet makes so easy, and turned up her name: Melina Kanakaredes. Never seen her show before, so no idea whether she could pull off an Amazon princess, but she's got the exact look I was thinking of, no doubt. Here's a link to a pic for curious Talkbackers: http://members.tripod.com/welcometoprovidence/pro/pix/c/pv25.jpg ****** Warner Brothers should seriously consider someone like this in the same vein as former-unknowns Christopher Reeve and Hugh Jackman. Well, only if they want a legit superhero movie that'll blow audiences away and start a money-making franchise. If they're going for a direct-to-video jiggle-fest that'll do the same mediocre business as the pending "Charlie's Angels", then they're on the right track.
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There's more than just black people in the Ghetto Goo-rilla_Films. Its pretty bad that you just assume a ghetto ho is black. Maybe your a racist pig. Suck my pinkish dong.
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I've never seen the show either BTW (my wife has watched it). I remember reading somewhere about her deciding to keep her Greek name in show biz -- she said something like, if she made it, she wanted it to be Melina Kanakaredes who made it, not some other woman with some other name. She seems like a good actress -- obviously her role on PROVIDENCE is hell and gone from WONDER WOMAN, but you know, that's why they call it ACTING. I couldn't agree with you more that the studio should cast an actress who fits the part instead of a "name" (George Clooney as Batman anyone?). *sigh* maybe if SPIDER-MAN rocks after X-MEN, the studios will finally start taking super-hero movies seriously again.
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After all, this is the studio that is wholeheartedly backing Jon Peters' (and for a while, Tim Burton's) defemation of Superman(as well as a TWIN PEAKS meets DAWSON'S CREEK teenage show about said character), that allowed the Batman films to be a quartet of stinkers, and that is letting Peters mutilate Gaiman's SANDMAN. Should the repulsive decision to consider that sleazy idiot Mariah Carey as Wonder Woman be a shock to us? After all, WB's contempt for their own comic book propoerties is well-known. And I really get teh feelign that Joel Silver had no say in teh consdieration of Carey. I think the corporate, Peters-supporting buttheads made that call for themselves....
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For your information, the "ghetto" was originally inhabited by Jews, before they were shit on. And, by the way, why not try consulting an English major before getting your Pee-fucking-Cee panties in a colon-crunching ass-stuffing pussy-lip-chafing bunch! One last thing...Hamlet and Romeo were 14 and 13, respectively. This has been proven several times throughout the world by various scholars...It was in a movie someplace, so this means it was true. Hey Guerilla:
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Most of the shriekers hare have been male geeks. No problem, Wonderwoman helps them make it through the night...but as a female, I think I have a perspective that needs addressing. I will tear out my eyeballs, gnash my breasts to shreads and eviserate myself before I watch Mariah don the wonderful bustier of the only female superhero to grace my childhood fantasies of female power and grace.
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for all the talk about how you would use "ghetto" anywhere else...I sure have never seen any of you call jennifer love hewitt, or courtney love ghetto. and when a person with black skin comes up you use it all you want, only to back down and say that "oh well all types of people live in the ghetto, not just blacks". but if all types live there why not use the word other places. and to the person that says I should get an english degree, and points out that hamlet was 14...you did nothing but prove my point. you fanboys are obsessed with a fucking Aryan type of entertainment, don't care about other types of art, and want to keep it as fucking lame and waspy as possible. and before claims of 'reverse racism' run amok here, I ask who here read ivan velez's run on ghost rider, to see how he made that character hardcore, by exposing how it reflected america. and to the people who say wonderwoman represents a 'great female character' and a perfect 'counterpart to the guys'...SHE RUNS AROUND IN HER FUCKING TANK TOPS SHOWING HER BOOBY BOOBY HA HA'S! that's real progressive.
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Wonder Woman has opened up a bar in Central City called Werewolf By Night Ugly. Okay, it's a strip joint. Headlining act is the Mutant Quartet of Storm, Rogue, Psylocke and Marvel Girl. Batgirl does a martial arts themed act, while Spider Woman strips on the ceiling. Big Barda doubles as both entertainer and bouncer. The story will center around Beautiful Dreamer, newly arrived from Super Town and ready to make a name for herself in the big city (on earth). Rooming with Supergirl, she gets a job waiting tables at Werewolf By Night Ugly. It's hard at first, with the customers sliding tips into her thong since Nick Fury has not depth perception (what with the one eye and all, how the hell was he such a crack shot?) and Mr. Fantastic stretches too far and his wife the Invisible Girl has followed him into the club and trips Dreamer. When Dreamer starts to dance, the Black Widow and Elektra intimidate her but then Wonder Woman sort of takes Dreamer under her wing. But the gals all pull together when a drunken Abomination and Doomsday go on a rampage in the club. In the end, Wonder Woman is happy to see Beautiful Dreamer go off on the arm of her true love, Mark Moonrider, and realize her dream of keeping the Anti-Life Equation out of Darkseid's foul clutches.
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Oct 07, 2000 2:09:42 AM CDT
aeron sun from farscape is wonderwoman! just give her a wonder b
by madmike
But she looks greek and shes a good actrss whos believable as a hard case. Not Bullock, not Zeta-jones, and definatly not that ho Maria carey
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I really hate it when some clown tries to tell me I'm racist when he doesn't even know me. I feel so sorry for you Goo-rilla. Waving your dare-I-say-it apeish arms about, battering at your keyboard with your oversize knuckles trying to spew as much hate as you can. I'm going to lay it out for you in as plain a fashion as I can. I can't speak for everyone but I think I can speak for a good many. First of all the only Wonder Woman I have ever know was white, that's how it is. I don't want someone to tweak with the reality that I've grown up with any more than necceasary. See the Spiderman webshooter argument to back up my point. I wouldn't want a white man to play Luke Cage or the Black Panther and if some white person wanted to play the part I'd be in talk-back shrieking loudly about corporate stupidity but I sure wouldn't be playing the race card like you insist on doing (A word to the unwise..you play the race card too often and it'll stop working, just like the boy who cried wolf too often)
Secondly it's okay for me to not like a black person. I know many black/yellow/red/brown people that I can't stand. I'm okay with that. That doesn't make me a racist at all, and it never ever will. I have a few friends that are Asian, a bunch that are Mexican one that's an American Indian and a few black guys (and one black gal that I'd take a bullet for)I even have a few lesbians in the bunch to boot but I don't see the color like you apparently have too. They're my friends. I don't like Maria Carey. She's ghetto trash. Your going to have to deal with that. I also don't like TLC, Whitney Houston, Malcom X, Spike Lee, Janet Jackson or Michael Jackson. Your going to have to deal with that too.
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I wouldn't choose Mariah if I were to cast for WonderWoman. I do think however that she USED TO have a great voice until she started "improving" her chest instead of her lungs. However, I do admire the choices she had made and would give her the benefit of the doubt with this one. Everyone here ALWAAAAAYSSS sounds like they know more about filmmaking and films. Remember, history have shown hits and classics usually comes from the most unexpected and weirdest places.
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Hawauer29a, as for your argument that surprises happen and Mariah Carey could be one, well, of course theoretically it could be possible. But in fact the vast majority of the time a casting decision that sounds like a really terrible idea to so many people really turns out to be one. As for Famke -- Famke is Jean Grey. Maybe you can make an argument that 'most any statuesque Hollywood beauty could play 'most any super-heroine, but you don't want to start re-using the same ones in different roles; it'll destroy suspension of disbelief (not to mention inhibiting diversity).
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Mariah Carey is a no-tatent, and someone is going to trust HER to fill WW's tights? It's got to be a joke. The only thing Carey has going for her is that she's such a greasy slut she'll have no problem slipping into the suit. Relax, everyone. The powers at the studio are just testing the waters to see if there is even enough intrest in the movie to make it worth the effort of making it. Casting Mariah Carey as Wonder Woman makes as much sense as casting Gary Coleman as the Hulk. It ain't gonna happen.
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Did you know that Lynda Carter is part Mexican? My god, T.V.'s Wonder Woman was a half-breed? The horror, the horror.
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...who exactly was crying out for "an Aryan WW?" I must have missed those posts.
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Yeah, you're correct. Lynda Carter is indeed part Mexican, but looks totally white, that's the trick. Hi Cyber Tooth!
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No one mentioned wanting an Aryan Wonder Woman. But if you read the posts carefully, that's what people meant indirectly. A few examples: Dargleo, "Pseudo-gangsta rap/hoochie mama crowd." Avidfan, "She is a fuckin' sperm receptacle ghetto whore." Molehunter, "Maybe Carey is yellow." B A Fett, "Has being white gone out of style?" X Girl, "Rather have Britney Spears than Mariah Carey." Kai, "I don't agree with that changing the race of characters jive." Andymation, "Mariah Carey is a mulatto." Cyber-Tooth, Mariah Carey is a ghetto bitch." Mother Plucker, "She's ghetto trash." See the pattern? I doubt they would've behaved differently if the list included other actresses of color. Don't get me wrong, I think casting Mariah Carey as Wonder Woman would be disastrous (too short, no muscle tone and zero acting experience). But criteria based on pigmentation? No can do. But I wholeheartedly agree with your preference for Catherine Zeta-Jones (she would be perfect). And last (not to kiss your ass or anything), I find you, cormorant and superninja to be the best writers on the AICN posts (although The Warrior is funnier). Hasta la vista baby!
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As usual, the Boy Commandos tried to get in with some fake I.D.s they bought off the Maggia, but Kalibak was working the door and turned them away. "The noive!' Brooklyn said. "We're old enough to get our nuts shot off soiving this country but too young to look at some super ta-tas!" "Next time get I.D. that looks more like you ... Prince T'Challah," Kalibak laughed. "Damned kids. Had to kick out Stripsey and Toro the Flaming Kid earlier but you never know when those two cops Sam and Twitch might come around. Good thing Commissioner Gordon is a regular."
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Mariah Carey as Wonder Woman? She doesn't have the talent, she doesn't have the class, she CERTAINLY doesn't have the body, what the hell are they thinking?
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Guerilla, you are truly a retard...your argument changes more than the race card you keep playing! You said "or when Ethan Hawke is too fucking YOUNG to play Hamlet." So, if Hamlet was actually 14, how is he too young to play him? Eh? I can't believe you are calling me, a Canadian, a racist! You are the racist! I suppose we are all racist! You wear pants, you are racist! You chose Coke over Pepsi, you are racist! You watch James Bond on TV, you are racist! I claimed to be Canadian when I am not, I am racist! I am racist against dumbasses like you, regardless of color...that I do not discriminate against.
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Oct 07, 2000 8:59:56 PM CDT
There Actually Was An Aryan Version of Wonder Woman. She was ca
by buzz maverik
...and she debuted in issue #44 of Fascist Comics back in '38. Along with that icon of untruth, injustice and the Nazi way ("ist ein eagle, ist der Luffwaffe, ist...") Hate Man, as well as Kaptain Nosferatu & Fritzi, she was a founding member of the Axis League (rival company Verdammt Comics featured Herr Fatherland and the All Bigots Squad). In her final issue, the Fraulien was executed after Nuremburg. (Hate Man escaped to Argentina but was finally captured and brought to trial by Dr. Moussad. The Nazis themselves killed Kaptain Nosferatu and Fritzi when the inevitable speculation about the nature of their relationship arose). Mythological sidenote: While Wonder Woman was an Amazon, Fraulien Vunderbar was a Valkyrie.
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somebody should shoot her stupid ass
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Hey, what the fuck? I thought Kirk Douglas' bitch was gonna be wonder woman. While we're on it, why make a wonder woman movie at all, besides to make feminazis happy? What the hell kind of a story could they come up with for a movie? Another thing, Mariah Carrey???!?~?!!!!!?!?!? What the fuck? Who in the shit made the rule that if you can sing, you can act? You know, I can't even think of words to express the confusion and anger i'm experiencing...IT'S JUST FUCKING STUPID godDAMMIT. I'd much rather see a Green Lantern movie anyway...actually, I'd rather watch an Aquaman movie. Starring David Hasselhoff,...say, he can't sing...or act...
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because the ill racist shit that is spewed here is never talked about. let's take for example Particularly CYBER TOOTH. and to back up my previous point: if ghetto means all types of people regardless of race, how come this is the first talk back to use it to describe someone? and that person happens to be of colour. and if shaft were remade with john malkovich that would be ignorant AND racist. shaft was black, demonstrated race relations, and the point of the original films was that he was black in a white field. and a tupac film with him being white would be just as ignorant. the thing you are missing here is that wonder woman is a COMIC BOOK CHARACTER. and for years white actors played black parts on screen and JACK SHIT was said about BIRTH OF A NATION, or laurence olivier playing OTHELLO. and these fanboys bitched and moaned about hugh jackman playing wolverine (he's too tall...he's a nobody...he's in theatre) and you shut right the fuck upwhen you saw him kick ass on screen. if she wants to make WONDER WOMAN a comedy and can find a director willing to do the same SHOOT for it. the first (60's) batman was a COMEDY. the tim burton film was sent into golden globes consideration as a COMEDY!!! and to MOTHER PLUCKER saying that wonder woman should stay "white" is even more idiotic. he doesn't want to see her change so it ruins his childhood (when he was molested). the fact that wonder woman is white is NOT apart of her character that is vital, unlike someone like Luke Cage (wrongful imprisonment) or the Black Panther (king of a country, fighting in business/real world). the point I was making was that this choice, like hugh jackman, or michael keaton, was left-of-center and particularly interesting to see how it would develop. it was not being played safe, aryan and pussy-ish right into your fanboys hands. and when you started blasting it for reasons besides logic, and going into race, I commented on that ill shit. and Pancho is right when he points out all the shit that you guys say when you don't want a minority to play a comic book character (or in alot of your fucking fanboy wetdreams).
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I should have included you among the list of best writers. Don't sweat it man. These geeks never even been laid. All they know in this world is white, as in pus white.
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I'm not even going to sweat it anymore. You fanboys want to keep your world as white, cornbread, and as Aryan, fine go ahead and be that way. And for the ones that so love your token black friends, please GO TAKE THE BULLETS FOR THEM NOW. I'll keep seeing films by real white cats who don't forget about minorities in their films, like Robert Altman, Tim Robbins, and Tarantino, while you jerk off at nazi recruitment films like Starship Troopers.
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Just because you're intelligent enough to realize that this casting decision is retarded, doesn't mean you're racist.
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I agree that the quotes you cite are offensive ("racist" is a problematic term for me in this connection; cf. Dinesh D'Souza's THE END OF RACISM for more on this point). I wouldn't want to be seen as defending them. As a matter of general principle however I think that comic-book characters should be cast as actors and actresses who generally resemble the characters as they have historically been drawn. I don't care about the actress's specific genetic background, but WW should not look obviously black/Asian/Nordic, just as she should not be obviously teenaged or middle-aged, short, heavy, or scrawny. Or, for that matter, a man.
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Oct 08, 2000 10:45:40 PM CDT
In A Surreal Attempt to Clear Up This Matter, I Attend a Meeting
by buzz maverik
"Sweet Christmas, it's good to see you, Buzz!" "Thanks, Luke, but could you go easy on my hand? Some of us aren't nigh-invulnerable, you know." "That's the Tick that's nigh-invulnerable. I'm just bulletproof and super strong." "Haven't seen you since you kicked the original Power Man's butt in that reprint that appeared in Thunderbolts." "Yeah, I hate that guy." "Me too. Speaking of guys whose butts you've kicked, isn't that Black Goliath over there. You guys fought over Clare Trevor, right?" "Yeah and she goes and marries a podiatrist, so me and B.G., we're cool now. He mostly hangs out with other heroes of color who have the same names as white heroes but with the word BLACK in front of them, like Black Green Lantern." " 'Scuse me, Luke. Prince T'challah! Thanks for that vibranium slinky you sent my son for his first birthday." "You're welcome, Buzz. It was my pleasure." "And thanks for kicking the crap out of Klaw when he showed up to steal it!" "Ah, Klaw. I've known him since my origin. Will he never learn?" "I guess not. Say, isn't that Erik Killmonger over there? How does that work, with you two guys belonging to the same organization." "This is neutral ground." "I remember the conclusion to THE PANTHER'S RAGE. Man, Billy Graham was the best artist that ever drew you guys, right after Kirby. Graham was African American, right?" "I think so." "He drew excellent action with a sense of mystery and his version of Monica Lynne was hot!" "Monica will be pleased to hear that." "Wow, I should have brought my autograph book. I think that's Vykin the Black from The Forever People and The Black Racer! Man, the Fourth World books are some of my favorite comics ever!" "I'll introduce you. We have a common creator." "The King." "Indeed. Vykin, Racer, meet Buzz Maverik." "Pleasedtameetcha." "Pleezedtameetcha." "Pleezedtameetcha." "I'm a big fan of both you guys. I'm a little surprised to find a guy from New Genesis hanging out with a guy from Apokolips." "I don't think I'm from Apokolips. I'm sort of from deep space, kind of like the Silver Surfer." "But you worked for Darkseid and Vykin is one of the Forever People." "Here we try to impart the ideals of New Genesis where race is not a barrier between people, yet we are all allowed to have pride in our heritages. That is why I'm called the Black. I celebrate my background and so do my friends even though they happen to be white. It would not make any difference, if say, Big Bear were in a family of mostly black New Gods, which could certainly happen." "Then maybe you're the guy I should talk to, Vykin. The gang at AICN is getting pretty steamed over Wonder Woman's race." "I thought she was a fictional character, like the rest of us." "She is. That's what's crazy." "Well, she's based on an Earth myth. Now, the Amazons in Homer's Oddessy weren't Greek, they were a tribe that Ulyssess encountered on his journey. I would be willing to bet if our creator, Jack Kirby, were drawing them in his later years, they'd be multi-racial." "Right. If they're made from clay, they'd be all different races. Maybe they'd be able to change races and ethnic groups to go on missions among the countries of the world. Since they're not real they could do most anything." "I've been reading the talkbacks, Buzz. From the sounds of it, almost no one in either camp is thrilled with this ... Mariah Carrey as Wonder Woman, but some are objecting to her because of her ethnicity while others are saying that ethnicity shouldn't matter." "Right. I'm in the ethnicity shouldn't matter group. I mean, I don't think most of the fan boys are racist. They want the character like she is in the comics, a good looking caucasian brunette." "Catherine Zeta-Jones." "Right, but some people say Zeta-Jones is too curvey." "TOO CURVEY? NO SUCH THING!" "That's what I say. See, I think these guys are being comic book purists not racial purists, otherwise they'd all be clamoring for Charlize Theron." "Charlize is hot." "Right, but no one wants her for Wonder Woman. I don't know enough about Mariah Carey to make a decision myself. She's pretty but I heard she has a heavy New Yawk accent. If she can get rid of that, she's okay with me. Hell, I don't care what race Wonder Woman is. I mean, Tyra Banks has the height, the beauty and the shape, and she was in John Singleton's HIGHER LEARNING as an athlete, so she'd be okay in my book." "Mine too." "I still like Zeta-Jones." "Oh, Racer, don't you know Douglas is going to fuck up her career the way Warren Beatty did with Annette Benning's back when Benning was going to play Catwoman?" "It'd be great to have a black Catwoman." "Yeah, Eartha Kitt was cool on the 60s T.V. show." "Julie Newmar was the best." "I liked Lee Merriweather." "This is fun. Let's hang around and talk about stuff like this all night. I'm ordering pizza."
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Does Joel Silver on crack? It's hard enough to think of someone else besides Lynda Carter as Wonder Woman but the thought of that cheezy screechy twit as everyones favorite feminist super-hero is enough to make anyone vomit. First of all, Wonder woman is strong, tall, assertive, smart, ATHLETIC, WELL SPOKEN, and BEAUTIFUL. All of which Mariah Carey is not. For godsakes, she acts like an easy lay for every rapper out there. I mean can she even run, or jump? All I've ever seen her do is stand there in hooker heels looking stupid and schreeching at the top of her lungs.
I agree with the person who wrote that Angie Harmon would be a great choice. She is strong and intelligent. Other suggestions include Polly Walker or Peta Wilson or Deborah Unger with dye jobs.
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Oct 09, 2000 2:59:38 AM CDT
Guerilla_Films asserts that it's not an essential part of Wonder
by dave_f
...and let's look at it logically and without bias. I only really know Wonder Woman through the revamped version George Perez cooked up in the 80's, but I do know that in every version of her character through the years, she's been the daughter of Hippolyta, queen of the Amazons. Therefore her features should be Amazonian, right? But...what does an Amazon look like? Well, a quick bit of 'Net research tells me first that the Amazons were largely mythic, but there may well have been some historical basis from which the legend was derived. Most of the pages I skimmed were lacking in descriptions of Amazon racial types, but the generally agreed upon homeland of the Amazons is at the mouth of the river Thermodon (modern Terme Cay) in Northern Turkey. The Turkish people have a good bit of ethnic diversity, but my encyclopedia describes them as generally being "dark-skinned, with dark hair and dark eyes". Note that we're talking about the Turkey of 3000 years ago, and ethnic types could've varied quite a bit from that of modern inhabitants. Clearly, though, the potential for varying shades of dark skin is there. And aside from Turkey, there're also stories of an Amazon tribe in Libya, and I found one page with a scan of a vase supposedly depicting a clearly African Amazon: [[ http://www.net4you.co.at/users/poellauerg/Amazons/libya.html ]]Still, most of the art I came across suggested features more European and Mediterranean than African, as with this Roman copy of a Greek sculpture: [[ http://harpy.uccs.edu/greek/sculpt/amazon2.jpg ]] and these designs taken from Greek vases: [[ http://216.103.209.217/costume/amazons.html ]]. I'm no anthropologist and my eyes are getting too tired to keep researching this, but my general conclusion is that most classical artistic representations of Amazons appear Caucasian, specifically Mediterranean, but the geographic placement of the Amazons suggests a definite possibility of wide ethnic variance. And if the Amazons can be ethnically diverse, Wonder Woman can be ethnically diverse. However, because of the artistic record and because I'm a traditionalist when it comes to adapting superheroes, my personal preference remains for Wonder Woman to have Caucasian features. Within that broad type, though, I'd prefer at least some adherence to historicity through an actress with Mediterranean features (olive skin; dark, curly hair; prominent, sharp nose) as exemplified by the Greek actress Melina Kanakaredes that SDG mentioned yesterday. Mariah, while being one hot momma, just doesn't fit the bill. Neither does Sandra Bullock (an old Wonder Woman rumor) or, say, Anna Nicole Smith. And beyond Mariah's physical features, from what I've seen of her in interviews and her videos, she's got hardly the depth or acting ability (yes, you can judging acting to a degree from video performances) to create the mythic heroine Wonder Woman should be. It's not that there's an etched-in-stone rule that Wonder Woman can't be interpreted different ways, played for camp or whatever, but wouldn't it be so much cooler for her big screen debut to be a serious adventure in the tradition of Perez's stories? Xena's great if you want a campy heroine, but Wonder Woman has the potential to be every bit as great as Superman. Women deserve a hero like that. I'm not 100% traditional though, and I'd actually like to see the swimsuit costume updated a bit for film. I know Perez concocted a nifty story to explain it, but I've forgotten the specifics, and frankly, nothing can fully explain the silliness of a swimsuit in battle. Even in superhero comics. The quasi-patriotic colors and design should be kept, being an important iconic element, but I vote for a redesign suggestive of an armored breastplate (as we've seen once or twice in the comics). Enough for now. I'm tired as hell and this Talkback will slip off the main page soon anyway. Interesting topic if you can wade through the venom and rash conclusions.
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not right for this part. I am sure she is a good actress. But IMHO Dolly Parton would be a better Wonder Woman. or Julie Strain! or even Anna N. Smith!!!!
first Croft now this.. {sad} :-(
BTW. I am new here.
cool place. :-)
Dan -
Ordinarily, I avoid like the plague (syntax apologies) posting comments on headlines on ANY website (not that I have anything against Mr. Knowles; I enjoy AICN), but I simply could NOT pass on this one.
As for my two cents, (sigh) my user ID says it all.
I...they...she...what...well, you get the idea.
In my opinion, the only, ahem, actress, remotely capable of pulling off the role MIGHT be - brace yourselves - er, Julie Strain Eastman?
I'm not a Julie-phile by any stretch of the imagination, but she's the only, ahem, "actress", remotely tall and buff enough to "fill" WW's "uniform".
Provided she actually acts.
Sorry Julie. In my (or your) defense, I enjoyed Heavy Metal 2K.
"Of course, that's just my opinion; I might be wrong."
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