Aronofsky comments a tad on BATMAN YEAR ONE
Hey folks, Harry here with our magical friend that popped up to listen to Aronofsky and paid rapt attention to the Q&A and Mandrake fills us in with this report that he pulled from his hat... Oh this is all going to get very very fascinating... Aronofsky and Miller.... BATMAN... It's gotta be really different... doesn't mean it'll be good.. but it does mean it won't be something we've seen out of the character on the big screen thus far... here we go...
Once upon a time (yesterday, to be exact), an art-house theater close to that tourist trap known as Independence Mall had an advance screening of Darren Aronofsky's "Requiem for a Dream". Mr. Aronofsky was kind enough to attend and have a short Q&A with the audience.
Before the film started, a critic for one of the local weeklies introduced it. Because he assumed that most of us "Gen-X slacker" types wouldn't know who the actors were, he told everyone where we might have seen them before. He especially went on explaining who Ellen Burstyn is. "The Exorcist" was the number two movie this week, but we still wouldn't know who Ellen Burstyn was. He could probably hear my eyes roll.
Anyway, he shut up and the film started.
A quick, non-spoiler review: Fantastic cinematography, an incredible score, a pretty darn-good performance from Marlon Wayans, Jared Leto with a bad haircut and an even worse accent, and a heart-breaking performance by the aforementioned Ellen Burstyn.
As the film ended, Mr. Aronofsky came up and started his Q&A. I was the second one to get a question in. I said that I debated whether I should ask him a "Batman: Year One" question. Instead, I asked him how he got te Kronos Quartet to work on the score. He said it was the first one they ever did. (Note: This is not true... they worked with Philip Glass on the film "Mishima" and on the video re-release of Tod Browning's "Dracula".)
I don't know if you're familiar with the Kronos Quartet. Having read in Moriarty's Rumblings about his musical tastes, I'm certain that he could hook you up with some of their stuff. They're one of the best ensembles in the world.
Well, Aronofsky and Clint Mansell, the film's scorer, agree. He said that Clint was working on adding synthesized strings into the score, but it just sounded cheesy. They contemplated getting an orchestra to work on it, and decided that if they were going to do that that they should go all-out and aim for the best...
One of the guys from KQ saw the film and cut their rates drastically to work on it. The score is infinitely more powerful and disturbing because of it.
Another person then asked him about "Batman: Year One". He said that he was surprised how word could travel so fast about it... Internet fanboys strike again!! All he said was that both him and Frank Miller had started working together on the script, and stressed that the project still hasn't been officially green-lit. However, he did also mention that he's been working the last ten months on an original sci-fi script. He said that either one of these two could be his next project, and that they're both grander in scope than "Requiem".
He answered a few more inane questions ("Why didn't you shoot this in black and white like 'Pi'? It would've been so much cooler in black and white..." "What was it like to work with Louise Lasser?") and ended it. A couple of people, myself included, asked him a couple of more questions on the way up the aisle.
I asked him about the editing. He said that the company didn't want the expenses of optically reprinting certain shots over and over again for some sequences. Instead, each of those pieces was filmed over and over again so there was enough to work with in the editing phase. I know this last bit sounds cryptic, but when you see the film, you'll understand what I'm talking about.
Don't know how much any of this helps. I've got to run, but I'll be in touch later.
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Sept. 28, 2000, 4:14 a.m. CST
bring Michelle Pfeiffer back as Catwoman!!!!!!!
Sept. 28, 2000, 4:31 a.m. CST
Pfieffer ruled as Catwoman.
Sept. 28, 2000, 4:46 a.m. CST
by Andy Travis
...I completely agree with this guy about Kronos Quartet. Sheer beauty to listen to. You can find their stuff in any Barnes@Noble under classical music, or, better yet, get a local music store to order it through retail.
Sept. 28, 2000, 4:49 a.m. CST
by Ethan Hunt
Finally another Batman topic. I guess a lot of people familiar with the character will read this so maybe this will answer some of my questions. First of all, thank you very much to al those who send me e-mails and posted the answer to my question about Frank Miller's The Dark Knight returns comic. I ordered it, but it has yet to get here. Damn those Amazon dudes, no wonder they are doing poorly. Secondly is there no longer any plans to do a live action version of this comic? With Frank Miller's involvement in this new project, I assume Year One is not identical with the Dark Knight Returns. But I heard that this involves an older Batman and this would fit the beforementioned comic pretty well. No flames on this please. I know I sound stupid but am I'm tired of frequently getting all these movies, comics and animated shows mixed up. oh, and no more Catwoman, please. Pheiffer was great, but probably wouldn't fit in, in any new Batman movie. Lastly, X-Men will finally open in this God forsaken country in less than 4 hours. I AM EXCITED.
Sept. 28, 2000, 5:19 a.m. CST
Pfeiffer was the most memorable character in the Batman series. Yes, it was a caricature, but she brought some real pain to that character. She really was the most interesting one out of all. Think about how over the top Schwarzenegger, Tommy Lee Jones, Carrey, Thurman, De Vito all were in their characters. Pfeiffer played a comic book character with reall heart and soul, and didn't camp it up like the others. Yet, you could still see she was having fun at the same time.
Sept. 28, 2000, 5:32 a.m. CST
Why is this under a Batman heading? Shouldn't this be under a Requeim for a Dream heading? I expected to get some juicy Batman: Year One info, but there was except that the project wasn't green lit. Come on, Harry, give us some substance for a heading.
Sept. 28, 2000, 5:41 a.m. CST
I was being you know, slightly ironic with my Catwoman post. I've read the script for what would've been the Catwoman movie and you know what, it would've RULED!!!!!!!!!!!!!dick.
Sept. 28, 2000, 6:04 a.m. CST
What is you're fucking problem with veers, just because he's like 3300 times funnier than you'll ever be. Oh and as for Catwoman in Year One maybe if you read the source material you would have a better clue as to what you are talking about.
Sept. 28, 2000, 6:12 a.m. CST
Ironic: Humourously sarcastic or mocking; 'dry humour'. An ironic remark often conveys a hidden meaning obliquely. I was trying to ridicule the whole fanboy thing, but as I have an affection for these kind of ideals, I was only being slight with my mocking. so dude, chill man, we are not all fanboys on this site you know.
Sept. 28, 2000, 6:13 a.m. CST
Sorry about the 'dick' thing it was uncalled for and unnecessary.
Sept. 28, 2000, 6:37 a.m. CST
Does anyone here remember the great "POP WILL EAT ITSELF", for many years one of Britain's best bands and one of the best live bands ever? Well the aforementioned Mr. Mansell was none other than Clint Poppie, the lead grebo himself. Good on yer, Clint! I wonder if it is too much to hope that Clint will be working on the score for Batman: Year One? "Bruce, Wayne - Auf wiedersehen"
Sept. 28, 2000, 7:20 a.m. CST
It is good news that the next batman movie could be year one. I just read the year one series reently, and if they remain true (even a little bit!) to the comic they could end up with a movie that will do business and please most of the fans. But we can forget about the Dark Knight storyline ever being faithfully adapted to the big screen. Think about it: Batman over 55yrs old (Clint Eastwood? Jack Palance? -is he stil around), Superman a facist, Batman killing the joker in cold blood, catwomen looking over 65, a dark theme, no scope for wisecracks/plastic nipples/love interest , batman walking around in crutches, the bat thingie batman throws actually piercing skin and drawing blood, swearing...I good go on but I think we've already reach the R rating... Can you really see the hollywood monkeys greenlighting this. I mean they cant possibly market this to the 8 year olds (and no happy meal shit scope either) What they should do is release a dark animated version on video. At least the fans will be happy....
Sept. 28, 2000, 7:25 a.m. CST
You punked out.
Sept. 28, 2000, 7:26 a.m. CST
Maybe Aronofsky meant "Requiem for a Dream" was the first flick they'd scored in its entirety. Or maybe he's just a lying bastard.
Sept. 28, 2000, 7:44 a.m. CST
by Stone Cold
I can not believe they are not bringing back Joel Schumacher to direct Batman 5 after the masterpiece that was Batman and Robin!!! And although not as good but a very close second, Batman Forever!!! Both of these films were not only the best two Batman flicks, but were the best comic superhero movies ever created!!! Far better and surperior than films such as X-men and Superman. The dialouge and plot alone in Batman and Robin just blow every other superhero movie out the water. The acting was stupendous!! Especially Aronold and that clueless girl as Batgirl. So, I ask again what was the studio thinking when they did not offer this to Joel!! I think they did, and Joel turned it down, because there can be no way the studios would not want him back after the box-office smash that was Batman and Robin. I mean come on! It made like a mind-boggling 107 MILLION DOLLARS!! Geessh! Now this film will suck.
Sept. 28, 2000, 8:08 a.m. CST
I assume you're joking about bringing back Schumacher, if you are that's pretty funny stuff considering 107 mill was the budget not the box office. But the sarcasm there is layed on pretty thick, you're a very good joker...you are joking...right? Does anyone know where you can purchase the PI soundtrack? They don't sell it on Amazon anymore or any online cd stores. Does anyone know if the "Requiem" soundtrack is a score only or if it will have additional tracks?
Sept. 28, 2000, 9:54 a.m. CST
by Stone Cold
Why would you think that I am joking? What about my post seems unbelievable to you? Schumacher damn near created the greatest film of all time in Batman and Robin!!! I can't believe it did not win several oscars for such superior acting and the best screenwriting on this side of the milky way!! It is truly a classic for all time. I mean everyone loves Batman and Robin!! Everyone loved Schumacher's vision of the Dark Knight!! So what makes you think I'm joking!!
Sept. 28, 2000, 10:12 a.m. CST
batman the animated series did an episode that consisted of shorter episodes, one of which was miller's dark knight! another was adam west's version.... has anyone else seen this?!!
Sept. 28, 2000, 10:20 a.m. CST
From the fanboy perspective, I am unbelievably excited by the idea of this movie. So much so, that I'd classify this article as a Batman iten too. If this movie can show that a comic book storyline can be faithfuly and sucsessfully translated into a movie, it could pave the way for others. However, from the practical standpoint, I know that many comics should not become movies, regardless of the story's quality. Comic books have a serial nature to them, where one story is founded on the history of another. Even Batman: Year One, an origin story, suffers this problem. Anyone unfamiliar with it will be expecting a full superhero story filled with bizare villians and outlandish costumes. Instead they will find a noir in which two vastly conflicting characters form a bond of trust. There are no super villians, just mobsters and corrupt police. The only costumes belong to Batman and a brief origin of Catwoman. James Gordon is nearly as important to the story as Bruce Wayne. This not how people see Batman. Truthfuly, they might not want to see him this way. This may not be the story we see. Between now and it's debut it may be vastly changed to appeal to a larger, more diverse, audience. This is possible regardless of what creative team helms it. While I understand the need to make adaptive and visual changes, I hope it doesn't change anymore than nessesary. I want to see it come to life as is, and open the door for other stories, the studios would be afraid to show. Let's see The Dark Knight Returns, Sandman, and Watchmen, alongside the more colorful Spiderman, Superman, and Rising Stars.
Sept. 28, 2000, 10:42 a.m. CST
That was an excellent episode, styled in The Legends of the Dark Knight format and featuringsome of the more memorable versions of Batman. However, it only touched one scene from The Dark Night Returns, and dosen't convey the extremes of the story. I'm eager to see "The Return of the Joker" partialy to see if any of it is incorporated into the Batman Beyond history.
Sept. 28, 2000, 10:45 a.m. CST
While the story UTTERLY REJUVENATED the Batman character, it's unlikely to make it to film. (A) Batman is OLD - Eastwood would be a good casting, but the general audience Wouldn't Get It. (B) Too violent - look at how he deals with the Mutant leader. Look at the scene early on with Carrie & friends in the arcade - those Batarangs draw BLOOD! With the current flap about movie violence, it wouldn't sell. (C) The Joker DIES! You can see the action figure now - 'Dead Joker with Neck-Snap Action!' (D) Superman is hardly sympathetic, and they still want to be able to make films about him. I'd love it, but it's more likely as a OAV from Dini & co. than a live-action film.
Sept. 28, 2000, 10:47 a.m. CST
"Batman: Year One" was a comic book miniseries written by Frank Miller after he wrote the "Dark Knight" series. It retold the story of Batman's origins and is considered the definitive post-Crisis version of how Batman got his start. Hence, he would be a younger Batman than in the previous movies, around age 25 or so. The subplots in this series also included a new origin story for Catwoman, redefining her as a prostitute and petty theif who, after seeing Batman in full costume for the first time, became inspired to quit prostitution, apply her theivery skills to cat-burglary and to disguise herself by wearing a costume that was appropriate to her new job. Subsequent versions of Catwoman's backstory have dropped the prostitution part, but the rest of it remains pretty much the way Miller defined it. It's been a while since I read it, but as far as I remember, Catwoman was the only costumed villain in the Year One story. The rest of the plot was about Bruce Wayne trying to gain his footing as a crimefighter and gain Gordon's trust, and about Gordon trying to clean up a corrupt police department. If this movie script is faithful to the comic on which it's based, Catwoman is the only appropriate costumed villain for the film. I liked Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman about as well as I liked Julie Newmar's, but neither version of the character is appropriate for this story. Besides, Michelle Pfeiffer is over 40 and, though she still looks great, is a bit old to be playing opposite a 20-something year old Batman. I'm hoping that this new movie (if it gets made) will be a complete departure from any of the previous films, and all of the characters will be recast appropriately.
Sept. 28, 2000, 11:15 a.m. CST
What I would love is if they would stay as faithful as possible to the original "Year One" comic, but also work in a subplot along the lines of the flashback sequences from "The Killing Joke"--show this unnamed failed comedian who agrees to help out the Red Hood Gang with a heist, and have him jump into a vat of chemicals when Batman tries to stop the heist, and leave it at that, with maybe a brief scene of him climbing out of the river and revealing his transformation to make it clear to the uninitiated members of the audience who he's supposed to be. It would be a good set up to bring the Joker into the next movie, and would be easy enough to work into the storyline, with Batman's main target being mob-style gangs, and his failure to handle the Red Hood incident without casualties would add to the self-doubt he's struggling with as a beginner. Plus it would be a good way for TPTB to work in one of their most valuable (merchandising-wise) characters without totally butchering the original story. I know this is pure fantasy, it won't actually happen, but I think it would be cool regardless.
Sept. 28, 2000, 11:51 a.m. CST
I'll admit I'm a huge fans of Batman the animated series (well when it was on FOX anyways, have'nt seen the ones the WB are doing) I like the first movie, the went progressivly downhill from there in IMHO. However, I have a friend who is like "FrankMiller is a god!" And he hated the every Batman movie and just about everything in every Batman movie with the two exceptions. Tim Burton's depiction of Gothem, and he enjoyed Nicholson's performance as the Joker. Now personally I thought Nicholson was fantastic. I also haven't seen a single post regarding his Joker. I've seen people praise Pfeiffer (well yeah) and rip ever other villian (justifiably) but no comments on Jack. so just curious what other Batman fans thought of Jack playing Batman's greatest foe.
Sept. 28, 2000, 12:01 p.m. CST
I wrote all about my feelings for Jack's Joker here: http://www.geocities.com/harleyquinn.geo/beef.html. I'd like to add, though, that I loved Jack's version of the Joker in the context of that movie, it's just that he came across more to me as vintage Jack Nicholson than as my image of what the Joker should be.
Sept. 28, 2000, 12:41 p.m. CST
by Michael Cheritto
Having just finished sitting through his first film I gotta say this kid has talent to spare. vrom the camera work to the simple yet kick ass story, this movie is a home run. Math is the ultimate compass of life. Am I the only one who had the shit scared out of them by the trailer for Requiem for a Dream? Holy Fuck. Batman is good for business, the Walmart business that is. Since that Nanacy Drew walked away, it can only get better. But how much blood can you get from a stone?
Sept. 28, 2000, 12:42 p.m. CST
Why are they making a Batman Beyond live action movie? Return of the Joker is supposed to rock, so why not keep Batman Beyond animated? It works as a series and with the occassionaly animated movie, that franchise should be fine. WE NEED A YEAR ONE MOVIE! Especially if Aronofsky and Frank Miller are writing it. If done right, this could be one of the best films in a long while. Not to mention revitalize the series. Forget the Beyond live action, make Year One instead. WB execs please listen to the fans here. Keep Beyond and the original cartoon series alive through the shows and animated movies. Make the Year One movie NOW!
Sept. 28, 2000, 2:01 p.m. CST
by Stone Cold
Tell me another director that has brought out such brilliant performances from actors such as George Cloony. Batman and Robin was truly George's best acting performance to date. And, I just do not see how Arnold and Silverstone did get nominated for best supporting actor and actress. They really stood out in Batman and Robin as they had some of the best dialouge ever written. Made Ben Hur look simple and childish. What a movie!! What a director!! What a visionary!!! Joel Schumacher, Batman 5 needs you!!
Sept. 28, 2000, 2:07 p.m. CST
Everyone's entitled to their opinion, then there are those opinions that are downright stupid. Schumacher gutted Batman and turned it into a $170 million dollar slab of rancid tripe! It's worse than Superman IV, for god's sake (or at least on equal par in the suckage category). Kill off Robin and get rid of Batchick. Oh yeah, baby!
Sept. 28, 2000, 2:15 p.m. CST
Sept. 28, 2000, 2:24 p.m. CST
by Lemmy Caution
My understanding is that Nicholson used his star-power leverage and had his role in the '89 "Batman" built up way above and beyond what it had been in Sam Hamm's original screenplay...in other words, he rewrote himself as the star. Imagine what a more restrained, self-effacing actor (like Willem Dafoe, maybe) could have done with the part. Never thought Keaton (or Kilmer or Clooney, obviously) were proper casting, either, but that's a whole 'nother kettle of fish.
Sept. 28, 2000, 3:19 p.m. CST
by gigolo aunt
Someone please ban this fuckwad.thank you.
Sept. 28, 2000, 3:34 p.m. CST
Sept. 28, 2000, 3:38 p.m. CST
Whoops...first timer. a little premature Return hitting...So, for anyone still interested in this topic, it might be cool to see Willim DeFoe play Zsasz in a Batman flick. No?
Sept. 28, 2000, 4:04 p.m. CST
I thought Jack was a fine Joker and his particular take on it was a good one, but certainly not the "definitive" Joker. I don't know if you can make a definitive representation of a character that has existed for well over 50 years. Jack was Bob Kane's personal choice. But check out "The Killing Joke", "The Dark Knight Returns" and most importantly "Arkham Asylum" for some truly disturbing looks into the mind of Comicdom's jolliest mass murderer.
Sept. 28, 2000, 4:07 p.m. CST
In case you don't know, Bob Kane CREATED Batman way back in the forties. He was a creative consultant on the first film and lobbied hard for Jack Nicholson to be cast.
Sept. 28, 2000, 4:50 p.m. CST
You're the one that pushes for better advertising in trailers, and then you pull a stunt like this? Here's the extent of the Batman "news" from this article: "Another person then asked him about "Batman: Year One". He said that he was surprised how word could travel so fast about it... Internet fanboys strike again!! All he said was that both him and Frank Miller had started working together on the script, and stressed that the project still hasn't been officially green-lit. However, he did also mention that he's been working the last ten months on an original sci-fi script. He said that either one of these two could be his next project, and that they're both grander in scope than "Requiem"." Now, is there ANYTHING in there that constitutes news other than the fact that the movie ISN'T EVEN GREEN LIT YET?!? Harry. Seriously. Your readers deserve better.
Sept. 28, 2000, 5:18 p.m. CST
by my colon sucks
as the years pass, i think our friend Stone Cold will be proven correct; there is something about Batman and Robin that sets it apart from other films. it may be the greatest chris o'donell (pardon the spelling, unless it's correct, then to hell wit yens!) film of the late nineties. i almost weep when he growls at clooney's batman during the first action scene. it says so much. "aren't we partners?" it begs. "i am furious!" it shouts. "i am hurt," it whispers.
Sept. 28, 2000, 5:24 p.m. CST
Let's try and remember that Aronofsky is just not going to do a faithful take on Year One. For starters it's the character of Gordon that really drives the story in the comic book. There are some great visuals of The young Batman in action, really dynamic cinematic stuff that jumps off the page and I am drooling to see - but it's Commissioner Gordon you really care about. A guy with a moustache and an overcoat who cheats on his wife. Warners are jsut not gonna go for that. Neither are they gonna go for not having a costumed baddie. A bunch of corrupt cops is going to seriously dissappoint the people who have never heard of, or give a bat-turd about Frank Miller. Think about it - but Aronofsky is a seriously good director and Frank Miller an even better writer. Oh yeah, I also think it sucks that Batman's webbing will be an organic part of his body. And also that Colussus won't be in the movie. The Russkie rocks.
Sept. 28, 2000, 6:01 p.m. CST
by Buzz Maverik
"...'lo." "Hi, Uma." "Buzz! Honey, Buzz Maverik's calling again. Did you want to know about Kill Bill, Buzz?" "No, I'm waiting for the video on that. Actually, I wanted to talk to Ethan again about something he mentioned the other day." "Okay. Ethan!" "Hey, Buzz! How are you, man! Have you read my book yet?" "Uh, no, I'm going to get to it after I finish all of Edgar Rice Burroughs' non-Tarzan stuff." "You're shitting me, right, Buzz? Non-Tarzan stuff? By Burroughs?" "Would I shit you? You're my favorite turd. Yeah, you know, the Martian novels, the hollow earth stuff..." "Don't forget Naked Lunch. I love the beat writers. I think my novel is sort of a modern day beat thing." "I'm sure it is. And I'll read it as soon as I finish Burroughs and E.E. "Doc" Smith." "Now you are shitting me. Doc Smith was just a character in Lost In Space. I was up for that, but they went with Le Beck." "Le Blanc. Anyway, that's the reason I'm calling. You asked me if I thought you'd make a good Batman in Aronosky's Year One..." "The one Frank Miller's writing?" "Yeah." "I wanted to meet Miller. I was up for The Crucible, you know." "I know. Anyway, I think you'd make an excellent Year One Batman. You've got that intensity..." "But you said I shouldn't play intense, not after that asshole character I played in REALITY BITES..." "Yeah, but that character was a poser written by a woman still young enough to be attracted to assholes. Besides, you redeemed yourself with THE NEWTON BOYS. That was your best performance and your character was the most likable one in the movie. Batman is actually a tough guy, very complex, and the way Miller writes him, a bit of a hard ass." "I thought you thought Miller writes him as too much of a hardass." "I do, but I think Miller might have matured since the original Dark Knight." "God, if you think I should do it, Buzz, I'll give my agent a call." "Good deal. Listen, I've gotta go post this on AICN. Give Uma my love." "Buzz sends his love honey. Uma sends hers back." "See ya, man." "See ya, Buzz."
Sept. 28, 2000, 7 p.m. CST
I read all of the posts in here just to see if you had anything more to say haha. Too bad nobody bit (except for fredster) hahahaha.
Sept. 28, 2000, 7:15 p.m. CST
I suspect they'll copy the X-Men formula -- that is tell a NEW story within the confines of the old characters. Let's look at the pattern so far -- hired indie director, reverted to fan-revered source material, brought in fanboy favorite Frank Miller...Next thing you know, they'll cast Hugh Jackman as the Bat! Anyway, Year One was very cool, but I'd rather have it told from the perspective of Bruce, because we still have yet to see a Batman movie about Batman. That would also give it a fresh spin -- When they say they're doing Year One they're doing something in the vein of Year One. I would be doubtful of a faithful adaptation, rather an inspiration.
Sept. 28, 2000, 7:41 p.m. CST
Yeah Batman!! Had to give thumbs up for Andy Travis' remark about going to a local record store and ordering Kronos Quartet....Long live independent retailers!!! mmmmmm....Bailey Quarters.....:)
Sept. 28, 2000, 8:41 p.m. CST
by Stone Cold
Next to Batman and Robin, Superman IV was the greatest piece of film based on a comic ever made. Its vision was almost on the level with Schumacher's outstanding masterpiece Batman and Robin!!
Sept. 29, 2000, 12:24 a.m. CST
she has become way too much of a mature non-sexy actress in the movies she chooses now. shame. oh what the hell, bring it on MICHELLE!! meow. hehe. man, she kicked ass as catwoman. i am so much more interested in seeing a batman movie with catwoman. even more than the joker. even more than the the joker AND harlequinn. baff
Sept. 29, 2000, 1:01 a.m. CST
...he really did I tell you. Horrible, horrible... ..utterly, utterly horrible. He made two of the worst Batman movies I HAVE EVER SEEN. They make me physically ill, I shit you not. Ugh
Sept. 29, 2000, 4 a.m. CST
....if anyone believes any of the Batman films are good, then you do need serious fucking help. Stop watching films. If you fall into this category, then stop watching films - they're hazardous to your health. I got swept up in the 89 Batman hype like every other 17 year old dipshit, but once I'd seen the film, I had serious erection problems for months.
Sept. 29, 2000, 9:56 a.m. CST
Yeah I *know* it was sarcastic, you American goofball! Obviously you didn't read between the lines in my message. Christ, man, chill. Me thinks you're a little too insecure. And you Yanks think we Canadians are so sensitive...pft...Cheers.
Sept. 29, 2000, 11:21 a.m. CST
by Stone Cold
My subject was just mocking yours. I think maybe it's you that needs to read between the lines, because you don't what you are talking aboot. Ain't that how you canadians say 'about'? By the way your country's actors, movies, and wrestlers all suck.
Sept. 29, 2000, 12:15 p.m. CST
by Stone Cold
Y2J hit Austin! Batman and Robin was better than Citizen Kane! And that's the bottom line...cuz Stone Cold said so!!
Sept. 30, 2000, 6:28 p.m. CST
Someone above was asking about Jack's portrayal of the Joker. Personally, I thought for the Joker, he made a good gangster. I was never terribly fond of any of the Batman movies and the first one is TERRIBLY dated. But Nicholson stands out like a sore thumb, munching on scenery with abandon and stealing attention away from who the story should have been about (Batman). I don't doubt that the part was beefed up once Jack was cast. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed his performance, it was spastic and silly, but was not the Joker. And just because Bob Kane pulled for Jack to be the Joker don't make it mean he was right for the part. Let's face it, there's LOTS of opportunity for some new guy with a vision to come in and breath new life into the Batman franchise.
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