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HERC's Seen BUFFY Season Premiere!! DAMN HIM!!

Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.

It's a sliding scale, you know. No matter how cool your week is, no matter how much fun stuff you get to do, there's always something you didn't get to do, someone you didn't get to meet, something you didn't get to see. Well, HERC's got me trumped this weekend with his hot little copy of the BUFFY season premiere, and I'm about thirty two shades of green with envy. I'm planning a commando raid on his homestead later this evening. If you don't hear from him again, it's because he made the mistake of not coughing it up. Anyway... here's the lucky bastid now.



Already. “Buffy Vs. Dracula,” teleplay credited to Marti Noxon (her last was “New Moon Rising,” depicting the ill-timed return of Oz), airs Tuesday, Sept. 26 at 8 p.m. on the WB.


Nothing too unexpected. Emma Caulfield (Anya) has finally and deservedly been elevated to the title sequence. Marc Blucas (Riley) and James Marsters (Spike) have both retained the spots they garnered last year. Disappointingly, Amber Benson (Tara) is still relegated to the ranks of recurring player, as is Kristine Sutherland (Joyce Summers) and Michelle Trachtenberg (Dawn Summers).


She does. This constitutes really big spoiler material, so look for details toward the end of this FAQ.

IS 5.1 GOOD?

Brilliant, actually. It is spectacularly funny, advances all kinds of plot threads, and gets season five off to roaring start. The episode teems with the three elements that make “Buffy” perhaps the most beguiling television show in production: left-field storytelling, incisive character development and, above all, inspired, intelligently-rendered comedy.


Yes. Near the start of the episode, Giles confides to Willow that he believes himself of no further use to Buffy, and that he has decided to return to England. But at episode’s end, Buffy – a bit rattled by her encounter with Dracula – realizes she still has severe limits, and asks Giles to resume his role as her watcher. (Willow’s anxiety at maintaining this secret is good for at least one big laugh.)


Oh yeah! Dracula keeps dropping hints about the Slayer’s “darkness,” and tellingly repeats First Slayer’s now-famous line from last season’s conclusion: “You think you know… what you are… what’s to come. You haven’t even begun.” And it sounds even better with a Romanian accent! Then Drac actually convinces Buffy to drink his blood after he’s sucked hers! (Drac insists, however, that it’s not ENOUGH blood to turn her into a vampire. In fact, she does remain rule-bendingly fang-free at episode’s end.) In any event, it continues to look like Buffy might herself somehow be part-demon. Could Tara know? Is this why Tara sabotaged Willow’s demon-finding spell last seaon?


We know it’s Dracula because series elders Spike and Anya both know the guy -- but the plot twists get so crazy, you’ll begin to suspect it’s a dream. Why? For one thing, the new crime-fighting duo of Giles and Riley makes these observations as it stumbles upon Drac’s home-away-from-home):

RILEY: I’ve lived in Sunnydale a couple of years now. Know what I’ve never noticed before?

GILES (staring at the castle): The castle?

RILEY: The big honkin’ castle.


Decidedly not. Drac doesn’t have that handsome face/scary face thing that Spike, Angel and the others employ – he just always maintains a pretty-boy-with-fangs look Buffy’s not seen before. He can also turn into vapor, a bat and a wolf – but his best trick is his ability to hold people in his thrall – including Xander, who is quickly transformed into a Renfield-like double agent.


Xander’s transformation – especially his newly-acquired fondness for insects – ranks as one of the funniest things depicted in the series. Funniest of all is Xander’s reaction once Dracula is “vanquished” and Xander finally snaps out of it. His lines at this point are so funny I dare not repeat them here.


He’s hot for slayer.


It’s fairly clear that, despite his crumbling to dust twice under Buffy’s stake, the door is open for Drac’s return. The main reason I suspect he won’t be this season’s main villain is the episode’s very on-the-nail title.


When Giles is captured by Drac’s super-sexy “three sisters,” he and Riley get to more-or-less re-enact the Castle Anthrax sequence from “Monty Python and the Holy Grail.” (Let’s go back and face the peril!) Also, the running gag about how completely helpless Buffy is in Drac’s thrall actually grows funnier the more she tries to steel herself against it.


Following her vanquishment of Dracula, Buffy is back at Casa Summers. She calls to Joyce:

BUFFY: I’m outta here! Riley and I are going to the movies!

JOYCE: Okay, have a good time!

Buffy moves to her bedroom and finds a heretofore unseen teen going through some clothing.

BUFFY (angry): What are you doing here?

JOYCE (in another room) Buffy? If you’re going out, why don’t you take your sister?

BUFFY AND STRANGER (both apparently horrified at the suggestion): Mom!

Executive Producer Joss Whedon.


None. A dinner scene early in the episode has place settings only for Buffy and Joyce. Commenting on Buffy’s return to UC Sunnydale for the fall semester, Joyce notes, “You know, I’m going to have to get used to this place without you again. It gets so quiet!”




**** better than most motion pictures

*** actually worth your valuable time

** as horrible as most stuff on TV

* makes you quietly pray for bulletins

Defiance: not a good idea for you!

I am - Hercules!

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  • Sept. 24, 2000, 9:56 p.m. CST


    by Captain BenSisko

    SMG kick ass! WWhat else do u need to watch Buffy???

  • Sept. 24, 2000, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Buffy good, Angel better

    by Mr. Wilson

    Buffy is really the FIRST and up until last season only show on WB that I liked. And while last season wasn't up to the two previous ones, I'm very much looking forward to this one. HOWEVER, Angel provided more hours of entertainment last year and I'm looking forward to the development of it this season.

  • Sept. 24, 2000, 10:48 p.m. CST

    I'm going to start watching buffy.

    by Kevin Bosch

    I feel like a smoker saying "I'm going to quit smoking". I've tried to do it before, saying "ok, im going to start watching it today", but then forgot about it. I'm going to start this season. It feels like I have been watching it already though. i mean, I defend it, and many times call it the best show on television(deduced by (1) knowing what else is on television, and (2) what everybody says about it). What i want to know is, who the hell is asking hurc these questions.

  • Sept. 24, 2000, 11:36 p.m. CST


    by greengirl

    being a viewer of buffy since episode 1.1 i've got a few sad observations to make a)giving anya a place in the opening credits is just stupid considering her character is the biggest waste of space on that show there is (ooo look, she made another ill timed sex comment, that was funny the other 100 times she did it too!) b)considering the fact that xander is the consumate hero and best friend on this show, why must they constantly sacrifice his character development for jokes. just cause he's the comic relief doesn't mean what little development they've allowed him should be thrown out the window c)smg is highly unattractive and a bitch. does that have much to do with the show? hmmm, probably not, but i just wanted to add that in here. d)as the show can't seem to focus on the characters it already has, i see no point in adding new ones to the credits without taking those others out. no tara, no anya, no dawn, nobody until giles and xander and even willow are dealt with fairly. this was a fine show once, but now it's a farce. it has turned from something great into something that is mediocre. sure it's still better than most of whats on tv, but Angel was better last season, and if Faith is on Angel again this season, then Angel will definately be the better show again (especially if they keep smg from crossing over and dragging it down)

  • Sept. 25, 2000, 12:06 a.m. CST

    damn if that sounds good

    by mckracken

    well cool, so it isnt George Hamilton as Dracula?

  • Sept. 25, 2000, 12:46 a.m. CST

    herc as buffydealer

    by Dmann

    hercules, you dork, now im all hooked on BUFFY, and its all your fault...i dont even LIKE sarah goofball, thanks for making me rot my brain more on tv...hehehe

  • Sept. 25, 2000, 1:23 a.m. CST

    Damn I can't resist these spoiler bits.

    by Twig

    I am very jealous of Herc. And greengirl, Sarah IS gorgeous, and always has been. But I agree about Faith(I am the biggest Faith fan there is). She's gonna be back on Angel later this season.

  • Sept. 25, 2000, 2:27 a.m. CST


    by Wungolioth

    I can't imagine somebody having so many problems with a show and actually still watching it. As you may know, last season had an overall theme, and that was how people tend to separate during their first year of college. Sure, Xander was under used last season, there was a point to that. I'd like to say there was alittle Anya growth last season last season, I really do hope they continue with the inopportune sexual statements by her character. Anya's character was supposed to be a replacement for Cordy's open approach("Tact is just saying stuff that's not true, I'll pass" ~Cordelia), and how can you beat "orgasm-friend". Basically, I don't agree with your assessment of the show, and I think anyone who apparently dislikes the show so much should really just stop, simply so I don't have to read their ignorant posts anymore.

  • Sept. 25, 2000, 2:58 a.m. CST


    by JackieJokeman

    I hate the friggin WB and UPN and all that other stuff I dont like.

  • Sept. 25, 2000, 4:54 a.m. CST


    by azrael79

    hey Herc, when's that review of the Angel season premiere gonna make an appearance?

  • Sept. 25, 2000, 5:47 a.m. CST


    by opie-wan

    Good review Herc, but you forgot a few things. First off, the gang was on the beach! During the day! In bathing suits! Yay! Also you didn't even reference Xander's second best line of the ep, (First being his man-bitch tirade)"prince of Darkness...bator." Still makes me chuckle. Great episode. I am so psyched for the rest of the season.

  • Sept. 25, 2000, 7:26 a.m. CST

    Ha Ha Ha

    by Eyegore

    Couldn't resist could you? You ignored the spoiler warning and now any lame-o suprise the premiere might have held for you is ruined. Pathetic.

  • Sept. 25, 2000, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Michelle Trachtenberg: Finally, a good gig for a good uprising y

    by 1derWoman

    I've never watched Buffy th'tv show. I really don't know why. I do love all th'vampire stuff, but I've just never been inspired. I have seen one scene of one episode (to see Seth Green get all furry and mean), though I have seen only one episode of Angel (yay! I made it through an entire episode of at least one of them). I'm now, thanks to the arrival of Ms. Trachtenberg, going to make a concentrated effort to watch the show. She brings and carries a lot of promise on her young shoulders. I don't know anything about how this character will evolve, really, but I can see her joining the rest of these kids in 'the hunt'. I will eagerly await it, actually. Trachtenberg can easily carry it off. I was already drawn to watch the season opener, thanx to the Drac thing. With the addition of Ms. T to the mix, WB just might have me comin'back for more.

  • Sept. 25, 2000, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Damn Herc!

    by Chris_Fougere

    I keep telling myself to not read his reviews of Buffy. I keep failing to keep away. Thank god up here in the Great White North Buffy comes in on Monday Nights (and tuesday nights and Saturday Nights...)

  • Sept. 25, 2000, 1:30 p.m. CST

    wild on Buffy

    by fuzzywookie

    Thanks for the blow Herc. Couldn't have possibly made it to tomorrow night without you. I'm sorry Greengirl, but the x-rated interplay between Xander and Anya is one of the best aspects of the show. (besides the rapid development of Giles as the next Egnlebert Humperdink!!!!!!!!!) One more thing: Damn all you people that have already seen the episode.

  • Sept. 25, 2000, 2:06 p.m. CST


    by BigMother

    I hate you all!....God damn you parents for being british!!...does someone wanna buy me a plane ticket to the good ol' US of A in time for tomorrow night?!! PLEASE?!!! I'm gonna!

  • Sept. 25, 2000, 5:53 p.m. CST

    You know, I would like Buffy if it wasn't...

    by Albert Acisuan

    ...about vampires. Although I don't mean vampires, but the sortof-demon-things that Joss Whedon calls vampires. Whedon has taken the tragedy out of the vampire myth. Instead of being humans who feared death so much they turned on their own kind, now they're demons who prey on humans because that's what demons do. And when Joss needs a "tragic" vamp, he takes one and makes it human. Well, duh. Vampires *are* human.

  • Sept. 25, 2000, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Response to Greengirl

    by Darth Ewok

    Greengirl, I'm sorry you don't seem to get Buffy lately. As someone said before, the last season was about what happens after high school. That is probably one of the biggest changes in anyone's lives. Friendships wither, new friends are made, kids experiment with their freedom, (such as it is), and nothing is like what it was. I think this season will see the main characters grow alot more than they did last season. Xander's character is all about jokes. he deals with pain by cracking jokes, and he has ALOT of pain to hide. Anya, I think, will come into her own this season. I've also heard she may get her powers back, (however if it's for one episode or for good, nobody seems ot know). And as for your slams on SMG, I think I see a little green in your eyes, not just your name.

  • Sept. 25, 2000, 9:01 p.m. CST

    Just giving herc another $2.90.

    by All Thumbs

    Hee like Buffy.

  • Sept. 25, 2000, 10:40 p.m. CST

    About vampires....

    by BiPolarBear

    Hey, Albert Acisuan... "Vampires *are* human?" Ummm... vampires aren't real. Also, there is no way Joss could have taken the tragedy out of the vampire myth, because there is no singular vampire myth. There are just dozens of variations based on superstitions about the dead rising out of their graves to feed on the living.

  • Sept. 26, 2000, 12:06 a.m. CST

    Terribly written?

    by Twig

    If you think Buffy is terribly written, I'd be shocked to know what shows you actually think have GOOD writing. I'm sure I'm not the only one(critics included) who would call Buffy the best written program out right now.

  • Sept. 26, 2000, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Oh, ZZoth...

    by Anton_Sirius

    And what MAKES it a terribly-written show? I realize that you are the Ultimate Cosmic Adjudicator of Quality and Taste, but at least give us a hint as to what its fatal flaws are rather than just raining your pronouncements down on our pitiful heads. Because most of us think you're a total idiot wanker for not liking the show.

  • Sept. 26, 2000, 3:10 p.m. CST


    by fuzzywookie

    He said "idiot wanker". HEHEHEHEHEHE

  • Sept. 26, 2000, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Buffy is gonna have one great season

    by Orpheus

    The Scoobies getting back together? Dracula's coming to town? We're finally gonna learn the origin of the Slayer and the history of all the others? What more could one ask for. And Buffy is terribly written? Maybe in the Bizarro World. Whedon is a mythmaker on the level of George Lucas. Can't wait until tonight.

  • Sept. 26, 2000, 9:19 p.m. CST

    season premiere flubs

    by Twig

    Anyone else think Buffy tends to have really ho-hum season premieres? This one seemed just off to me, I'm not sure why. It was funny("spider-eating man bitch"...Giles getting ravished:), but slow too. Still entertaining though.

  • Sept. 26, 2000, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Completely agree, Twig!

    by werkharder

    Yeah, just a mediocre episode besides some very funny lines. Dracula looked too much like David Copperfield, not imposing enough or scary. In fact, enjoyed Angel a lot more, even tho Herc gave it a dreadful review. Can't wait for rest of the season, though!! Hoonga!!!

  • Sept. 26, 2000, 9:33 p.m. CST

    Anyone have this episode?

    by drengy

    I MISSED IT!!! Anyone know of a place I could download it (Real Media, QuickTime, Windows Media)? Please e-mail me if you do. Thanks!!

  • Sept. 26, 2000, 10:55 p.m. CST

    That's it?

    by Talandir

    Man, what a waste! Buffy confronts the archetypal modern vampire character and all we get is some weak psuedo-angst and a few decent jokes. They could have presented Vlad Dracula as a truly powerful villain as either the historical Impaler or as the nearly all powerful demon from Stoker's novel. Instead we get some parlor tricks, but no threat whatsoever. Buffy's under his thrall? Rutger Hauer had more hold on his Buffy than this pasty-faced charisma-impaired pretender. Xander's Renfield act was straight out of Love At First Bite. Giles, Willow and the rest seemed to be sleepwalking through the story. In fact the only thing I found interesting at all was the last scene with Buffy's new "sister". Kind of reminds me of an old sci-fi story I read where an alien race appeared on earth as Long lost tribes in remote regions, with almost all of humanity believing they'd always been here. It was called "Spaceships of Stone" I believe, but I can't remember the author. Sorry, got so bored with this week's Buffy I drifted onto a good story.

  • Sept. 26, 2000, 11 p.m. CST

    Whoa, Harriet the spy turned into a hottie!

    by fukkiteefukk

    I love,love,love Buffy but the season premiere was stagey. I trust Whedon and have faith it'll all make sense in a few more episodes.

  • Sept. 26, 2000, 11:37 p.m. CST


    by doctorcreep

    I never liked X Files to begin with, but I think everyone agrees it charted all new territories of suckiness when Carter decided every episode had to be quirky/funny. The premiere had a few moments of drama, but Drac was really just there for laughs. I don't mind squeezing laughs out of a serious situation (Twin Peaks made me laugh more than any other show) but to bring in a character that is supposedly more formidable than any Buffy has ever faced and make 3/4 of his episode built for laughs is self defeating. The ending with Harriet the Spy was funny, but gratuitious after a mostly funny episode. Oh well, what I guess I mean to say is it was a pretty good episode, but to wait 4 months for this? Let's hope there's some drama in store down the road.

  • Sept. 27, 2000, 6:12 a.m. CST


    by FortysevenBTEG

    You hit the nail on the head. I just got done watching the episode on tape, and couldn't quite put my finger on what felt off about it. But that's exactly it. Wasn't very serious at all. Everything kinda felt rushed too, in a way...or they tried to cram everyone into the ep. That scene with Riley and Spike seemed rather useless, only to inject more "yeah, me and Drac were rivals" humor and for the two to stare each other down... (Why? We know Spike isn't loved much.) Oh well, next week will be better probably. :/

  • Sept. 27, 2000, 6:34 a.m. CST

    All is Not Right...

    by MeccaLecca

    I agree with other comments that something seemed "off" in this episode. I sincerely hope that this is not an indication that the writing/directing/acting of Buffy is going south. Instead, I'm thinking that some of the weirdness of this episode is intentional. I don't think it's mere coincidence that Dracula used the same line as the First Slayer in last season's final episode. ("You think you know who you are...") Add in the fact that only-child Buffy Summers suddenly has a kid sister and we've got some kind of dream-world or warped reality (BOTH of which we've seen before, so not outside the realm of possibility). It may take a couple of episodes before we sift through this.

  • Sept. 27, 2000, 10:46 a.m. CST


    by Fate

    I haven't posted in months. The episode did seem a little off, but knowing how Whedon is, it was probably intentional. Willow seemed to have gotten a boost of self-confidence over the summer. She even sounds more sure of herself? Harriet the Spy grew up a LOT. I was expecting her to look like some little kid but she was a hottie, like someone said earlier. Wonder what the story is behind Dawn...

  • Sept. 27, 2000, 11:39 a.m. CST

    The premiere was brilliant

    by Orpheus

    It wasn't dark enough? It seemed off for some reason, but no one seems to know what it was? Come on. Shit, you just can't please some people. Buffy nearly going to the dark side, unable to sleep anymore without getting in a kill, is not dark? Come on. I mean, come on. Dracula WAS a big threat, people. That's why she said she needed Giles to stay. He was almost out of her league. It ended perfectly, since we don't know whether or not he lived ... or rather, remained undead. And you all forget, this Drac was in the confines of the Buffyverse. If you just wanted a complete regurgitation of all the old vamp mythos, then this is obviously the wrong show for you.

  • Sept. 27, 2000, 1:20 p.m. CST

    very, VERY sick of hearing about Buffy...

    by vondoom

    Why am I posting here then? I think I have a right...I follow almost every geek media outlet, as well as mainstream, and you CAN'T AVOID BUFFY. The media has been trying to cram this show down everyone's throats for YEARS...and it still has the exact same number of people watching... which is amazing given the amount of free publicity given to this show...has it ever even won it's own TIME-SLOT on a regular basis? Why the incessant hype??? It is certainly NOT the best-written show on TV, not even close. It is a campy, 90210 style show for teenage girls. And yes I've seen a handful of episodes throughout its run so far. Flame away, Buffy is still the most over-rated show of the past decade.

  • Sept. 27, 2000, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Look at Joss's pattern for season premiers

    by Lucian27

    Dracula was a hype monster. He was about the same as the vampire from the last season opener who seemed to be a threat until Buffy got her s*** together and staked her. It seems to me Joss's goal with Buffy season openers is to introduce a threat that highlights the overall themes Buffy has to deal with in the upcoming season but gives her the important first victory right away. Here we see Buffy's biggest threat this season may be herself. The truth about the slayer's power should shock us all. Giles and Xander seem to be poised to regain important roles in the story and Riley has been re-established as a threatening figure who has not "mellowed" despite leaving the initiative. Coming off a mediocre season with some amazing individual episodes (Shush anyone?) I am left feeling optomistic. Oh and ZZOTH: You are strange and off-putting. Go now. (How can you call the bad writing? Buffy has THE cleverest dialogue on television)

  • Sept. 27, 2000, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Herc is wrong

    by iaido

    Regarding Herc's Giles-Buffy comments. It was not a matter of Buffy wanting Giles guidence because she "realizes she still has severe limits". No, it was quite clear, she said she is getting too powerful, scary powerful, since last seasons final two episodes and, as the premire showed, since she has been compulsively "hunting". i felt the premire was pretty fair. Seemed a tad stale, but thats probably due to everyone getting off vacation (in witch many of them, SMG, were working) and having to get back in the flow of 12-16 hr workdays. Opening day jitters.

  • Sept. 27, 2000, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Well ...

    by Orpheus

    Very well said, Lucian. And Iaido. My thoughts exactly. And Technomage, why am I a troll? What would even lead you to think that? No one has even brought that up except you. Whedon and Lucas hang around together. Lucas has taken his daughter to the Buffy set several times. He called up SMG to wish her a happy birthday. They admire each other. They're both fans of the other's work. Lucas and Alyson Hannigan even had their picture taken together during that race a few months ago. I don't know what you're talking about.

  • Sept. 27, 2000, 11:22 p.m. CST

    buffy rules and everyone knows it

    by tallboy

  • Sept. 27, 2000, 11:42 p.m. CST

    angel is not a bad show, but...

    by tallboy

    It boggles my mind that anyone could say that the show Angel is superior to Buffy. Angel is an entertaining diversion, however the mythology of the show is sloppy at best, which wouldn't be so bad if the show weren't trying so hard at appearing more complicated and deeper than it acually is. The guest stars are usually quite weak, and it just doesn't have as compelling an aura as the Buffy universe does. All that and a male character named "Leslie" just make me skeptical about the future of the show. However, the eps with Faith did kick.

  • Sept. 28, 2000, 7:04 a.m. CST

    Forming a Theory

    by MeccaLecca

    I don't think Dracula was ever in Sunnydale. It would be easy to say "bad writing, bad episode" for the whole thing--which was my first impression. But think of how the episode begins and ends. Begins with the gang at the beach, and suddenly the weather drastically changes for no particular reason. It ends with the introduction of Buffy's "sister" Dawn (when they make it clear, even in THIS episode, that Buffy has been an only child). What do they have to do with Dracula? Nothing, at first, until you think about it. I think that Dawn has the ability manipulate reality, create illusions, or something similar (remember the "Jonathon" episode?). She's on the run from something very scary that can see right through her illusions. How to find protection? Set herself up as the Slayer's sister, who will naturally protect the younger sibling. Perhaps the whole Dracula thing was a test to see if Buffy could figure out none of it was real. I've heard that we'll find the truth about Dawn in episode 6 or 7 this season, so we only have a couple of months to find out if I'm on-target or hopelessly clueless.

  • Sept. 28, 2000, 10:06 a.m. CST


    by EthanEdwards

    How about this. Dawn is Buffy's stepsister. Her parents are divorced, though for how long we don't know. And by the way, she's like 14. Talking about robbing the cradle.

  • Sept. 28, 2000, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Excellent writing

    by EthanEdwards

    Also, in response to the debate over the writing of the show... Buffy is one of the best written shows on televsion. For those who think it isn't, please back this up with examples of well-written programs. Don't be negative just to be negative. If you're opinion is "Buffy sucks" well back it up with examples, etc. Or if'll your reason that the writing sucks because it does, prove to us that your writing is better with a fluent and engaging talkback. Otherwise, you're just wasting our (the fan's) time with your meaningless banter. The show continually develops characters by mixing true drama with truly engaging comedy. On this note, the most humorous line of the season premiere, for me at least, was Xander's "do you think he knows Frankenstein" query?

  • Sept. 28, 2000, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Why are you complaining?

    by Eyegore

    Dracula wasn't scary enough. There were too many jokes. It was a slow start, etc, etc. Hello? You are watching BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER! What the hell did you expect? The show's name and basic premise is comic. You geeks just read to much into it. You make it out like this is some profound art. It's CLUELESS with vampire stooges. It's a freaking lame ass giggle soap opera made for the 12-16 year old audience. Get a freaking grip. Of course it was silly. What's even more silly is the way you guys blow this lame show all out of proportion.

  • Sept. 28, 2000, 11:57 a.m. CST

    MeccaLecca: You're a bright kid.

    by fukkiteefukk

    It seems the most rational explanation at this point. And to whoever (sorry, I forget the username) mentioned "robbing the cradle" 'cause Dawn/Harriet the Spy/ is only 14, so what? I'd adopt her and THEN marry her later. What do you think I am, a perv?

  • Sept. 29, 2000, 9:41 a.m. CST

    Can't Wait

    by Big P

    How the hell does this Jammy fuck get to see all this stuff. Who the hell is he shagging?

  • Sept. 29, 2000, 2:21 p.m. CST

    I think the writing is great

    by jefepeterson

    It's the ACTING that sometimes makes it LOOK weak. The delivery of the lines often is what makes things fall flat for me. Still, I'm watching. And Sara Michelle is still pretty hot.

  • Sept. 29, 2000, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Quick Question

    by pbkid

    I thought the season 5 premiere was okay. Sure, Drac was not as charismatic as he should have been (and also rather young. Why did he look so young? Or can he alter his appearance to be in tune with his victims?), but Xander had me falling off the couch with his "funny syphillis" tirade. Heh! I chuckle just thinking about it. The writing on Buffy's always been top notch, in my opinion, and I'm very curious to see what happens this season. Harriet the Spy seems like a throw-away character, so I hope Mr. Whedon makes that whole story worth our while (I'm not concerned). A couple of questions, though, to anyone who can provide a succinct, well thought out answer: Why is everyone calling last season "mediocre"? I thought it was great, and more engaging than season 3, with all that dark, Mayor-who-wants-to-be-a-demon story and the Slayer gone bad (i.e., Faith). Last season's Initiative story line was excellent, though I admit Adam was boring and overrated. Lastly, re: posters who chime in to say, in essence, "Buffy sucks," I only wonder why they would spend time on this board if they feel that way. Just looking for some free attention? Anyway, that's my .02. Go Buffy!

  • Sept. 30, 2000, 6:39 a.m. CST

    So-so Season Number 4

    by EthanEdwards

    I guess the reason that some people (including me in general) think that season four was a little below the high mark of season four is that the story of the season was not as interesting as season three. Season four begins a little slow, for reason discussed in previous posts, and the Initiative story was too dragged out and ko=ind of lame. There were only a bunch of dudes wearing camos crouched behind bushes. The individual episodes were lacking some of the spark of season three's, other than the highwater mark for Buffy, Hush. Season three had some amazing stand-alone episodes (Lovers' Walk, The Wish, Helpless, Bad Girls, Consequences, Earshot, and The Zeppo) that will were able to advance the Slayer mythology in a way that very few of season four's episodes were able to do. Plus season three gave almost a weekly dose of Faith in leather pants (I am a big fan of that) and more Xander. I have high hopes for season five and just hope that Dawn doesn't turn into Scrappy Doo.

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