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Major Bludd spills more on JURASSIC PARK 3
Alright, Harry here... Major Bludd has been a proven truthful source in the past, so you can trust him now.... (This is his 4th scoop, btw he was the first to release that Sam Neill was going to be in this film) Now, I did a tad of research on this new dinosaur called the Spinosaurus and found this site with info on the creature (as well as the picture you see below) and the best page I've seen on the Spinosaurus CLICK HERE TO VISIT Rory's Page he's responsible for this immediate image... Looks like it'll be pretty darn cool... here ya go...
Major Bludd here:
Recently there was a Consumer Tour at the Universal lot with the production
designer of JP3 (his name escapes me) leading a flock of "licensing people"
through a jungle set of the JP island. Though he didn't give plot details,
he slipped the details of a few cool scenes and showed some new dino Stan
Winston maqettes!
The new dino "lead" is going to be a Spinosaurus (sp?). A little bigger than
a T-Rex, a sleaker looking with a mean head and a huge fin down his back. It
looks cooler than described, believe me. The Spinosaurus will be introduced
"picking at the plane crash victims". He also showed some of the flying
dinos. As for scene details he described a raptor chase (again?) where Alan
Grant and his crew are chased through the jungle and have to climb trees to
avoid the raptors. Of course, the raptors aren't going anywhere so Grant and
his crew must venture through the jungle canopy to escape the dinos. And the
coolest scene mentioned: a tremendous battle between the T-Rex and the
Spinosaurus.
After giving us those details, he took the tour through the jungle and into a
warehouse where a section of the plane was and the rest of the maquettes. He
said a composer for the film hasn't been chosen but he hopes it's John
Williams.
Hope all that's worth something to ya!
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YEEEEEES! Dino looks cool too!
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Well, I wish I cared about Jurassic Poop, but I don't. I thought the first one was alright, except for the fact that it had very little in common with the novel, which was better, and the second one was such a rush job by Michael Crichton to get into the sequel bandwagon that I hated it after the first few pages. What can Jurassic Poop 3 offer? More of the same, lame, sequel mania drivel....
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nothin to say except that the movie'll kick ass
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The film sounds like it's gonna be a winner, and I'm hoping for a much darker film than the previous two. The Spinosaur looks kick-ass, and a face-off with a T Rex would just rule the world forevermore.
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I couldn't resist, sorry! Sitting here at college, I have to do SOMETHING!
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The gang drives up to the island in the Mystery Machine because Velma's uh ... special friend Millecent said there'd be a softball tournament on Raptor Ridge. When they arrive, they find both teams have been eaten. They set about to solve the mystery. Spinosaurus keeps popping up out of hidden passages, especially when Shag and Scoob are in the kitchen making sandwiches out hotdog links, liverwurst, watermelons and t-bone steaks. There's a wacky chase. Freddy springs a trap and spinosaurus is wrapped up in a brachiosaurus neck and unmasked. It was Zeke the caretaker all along, trying to scare everyone off the island so he could take the treasure. As he's lead away, he says, "I would have succeeded if not for you meddling kids." I'm hoping for a Danny Elfman score.
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Modesty is the art of enhancing your charm by pretending not to be aware of it.
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Isn't it great? A T-REX PLUS a SPINOSAURUS?
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I don't want to get my hopes up. The studio won't risk the franchise on a darker movie than the first two. And the Spinosaur sounds interesting but once you've seen one CGI dinosaur fight, you've seen 'em all. What about a story where a lonely dino gets to the mainland and makes friends with a young boy, who hides the monster in his closet. Or a sea dinosaur starts affecting the tourist trade in a small coastal town where Sam Neil has become sheriff. There could be a cool part where they go out on a boat to hunt the beast and when Sam Neil sees it he say "We need a bigger boat"
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Jeeeeeesus. Spinosaurus? Spine-o-fucking-saurus? Can we rename the T-Rex TOOTH-a-saurus? And the Pterodactyl can be WING-a-saurus, of course. Motherfucker... I think the best case scenario here would be if JP3 is a blatant "Aliens" ripoff.
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The Spinosaurus is real. They didn't make him up for the film.
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...as that's what I've been hearing. We're talking dinosaurs here, folks--I don't want acrobatic children kicking raptors upside the head. I was mean, vicious dinosaurs again--I was lawyers grabbed off of toilets and snacked upon, that kind of thing. :-) McFly<--
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If this movie is half as good as The Rocketeer...
It'll suck really bad.
I hope Sam Neill gets killed in this one and they bring back Samuel Jackson, using his gnawed arm and some frog dna.
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I thought the skull used in the promos for JP3 was that of the Suchomimus(http://dinosaur.umbc.edu/images/suchomimus-ket.html). Is it still featured in the movie??
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Instead of having CGI monsters, they could just go back to cell animation. Have a T-Rex show up in Passamaquati and start humming show tunes. I guess it would be a stretch when the T-Rex blows fire to relight the lighthouse... but no further of a stretch than that little girl made when the raptor flew out of the side of the barn BEFORE SHE EVEN KICKED IT!!! SLOW THE MOVIE DOWN!! YOU'LL SEE!!
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Even if there was such a dinosaur as a "Spin-o-saurus" (I feel stupid just typing it), it sounds fake. Really fucking fake. There is such a thing as verisimilitude, folks. That's when a made up fact can seem real and plausible through intelligent writing. This dumb-ass dinosaur is the excat OPPOSITE of that; even if it's real, I don't believe in it. Kind of like Jesus...
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believe it or not. It's North African. You can look it up. The "spino-" thing means the same thing in Latin (Greek? I dunno, they mix them up) that it does in English. And if you think that's silly, just know that the scientific name of the Lumpfish is Cyclopterus Lumpus, the "lumpy thing with round fins."
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Okay...I'll see it.
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There was this guy once we banned from our club because he said a lot of unfunny, stupid, offensive shit. Anyway he comes back with all this talk about how he was going to get us, shit like that. But he never realised what the rest of us saw. Only an asshole would give a fuck about some club and even after all the threats he made he was still a cheese-eating, spineless, dick loving asshole.
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hell ya it's worth somethin' to me. I hope the Spino is green. That's a really cool dino, any chance of water or air dinosaurs?? I'm gonna love this film, because Steven Spielberg isn't doing it! No more gymnasts who fight off raptors, no more lack of real dinosaur carnage until an hour or so in (and even then the dinosaurs would be used to show off the special effects tech for a while). ....Try to see if King Kong is busy. Oh right, he's got that Julia Roberts movie coming up.
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dear talk backers, can we please refrain from pitty name calling and pointless threats and discuss MOVIES! JP3 will suck but thats no need to bring up incestuous oral sex, beaterofel or whatever your name is.....please stop with your lil hate games so we dont have to read through them to get to the intelling posts. thanks. tetsuo
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Then a flame war in an AICN talkback. Even if some random fool decides to insult you personally and without thought, its best to ignore it, because its tends to make everyone look like assholes in the end. Oh, the movie itself, almost forgot that...sadly, despite that I despise the last film, I'll probably end up seeing JP3, just over the special effects that will be look cheesy in 10 years time.
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Just a follow up to the comment from that "Angry Dwarf" dude...Spinosaurus is legit. He was a cretaceous period dinosaur (a contemporary of, among others, T-Rex, Triceratops, Pachycephalasaurus and Ankylosaurus). You have to remember, when archaeologists discovered these suckers, they put REAL OBVIOUS names on them, but used Latin because all scientific classifications are done in Latin. Thus, "spinosaurus" literally translates to "spiny lizard" (which, as we are learning, is a misnomer anyway because if these creatures were really warm-blooded, they could not have been lizards). I submit that Spinosaurus Aegypticus is no more ludicrous of a name for an animal than HOMO Sapiens. Please. Although I love the use of that great 25-cent word "versimilitude," the kids are gonna LOVE playing with "SPINY-Saurus." And after all, this movie is for the kids anyway. And by the way, GREETINGS from THE ANSWER MAN. This is my first post. Woo-hoo! This movie, if it has ANY plot whatsoever (of course, the LAST one didn't) is going to rock the house. I do like the idea of the Scooby Gang showing up in the Mystery Machine, however.
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As a qualified film fan, I think my feedback on JP3 would be most valuable to the Universal on making this film. I want green dinosaurs welding broadswords and talking in exotic foriegn accents as they kill each other for the lucrative drug trade in Central America. Sam Neil could play the crazy, nearly-commited-suicide-if-it-werent-for-his-partner paleontologist turned gritty Interpol officer who must stop these dinosaurs. Of course, Bruce Campbell must play a crazy assassian out for revenge against the Spinosaurus, which uses a special blend of Wire Fu to fight in various action scenes with the cops. Oh, and lotsa bloody chase scenes with unsuspecting tourists getting eaten by the dinosaurs. IF YOU'RE READING THIS, YOU SUITS, YOU SHOULD TAKE ME SERIOUSLY, BECAUSE I'M LIKE YOUR BIGGEST FAN!!!! It would roc! Thank you for your time, and vote republican.
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What is UP with that beaterofel-guy? Somebody trace his AOL account and find out who he is. Then call the cops because, as an attorney, I can tell you he has crossed the line into actionable-threat territory. Dude, just lighten the hell up.
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Indeed, JP3 could be quite interesting. But I don't really see the point making a n.3 ??
I heard Grant would be back, I think that new dinosaur movie will be for kids ,like the two others .
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Only when your mother gets bored.
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......I know for a fact that the Spinosaurus is NOT bigger than a T-Rex.
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Sure Jurassic Park was a novelty, it wowed the fanboys with CG effects. And - as any half way intelligent film fan would know Jurassic Park 2 was a fucking horrible pile of spew, it could be no other way, the novelty wore off and the fad was dead. But fucking shit Jurassic park 3?! And you fanboys are actually caring?! Your actually reading news stories on this BS?! GUYS YOUR NOT 12, DINOSAURS AREN'T THAT COOL! This movie is hollywood garbage, squeezing out every last penny from your collective pockets - this is almost as low as making a sequel to Urban Legends. Any of you who go to see this shit should be forced to watch Congo alone for the rest of eternity.
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Harryosaurus was an Ultrasaurus-sized meateater. Spielbergosaurus was a Raptor-sized vegetarian. Universal unless you include these two DNA-enhanced dinos I will just have to go see Godzilla 2000 again and wait to see JP3 when it is on network TV. As for Rory his drawings look suspiciously like Conan O'Brien's "Kids Pictures of Late Night".
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If JP II and the Sydney Olympics have taught us anything, it's that all viewings are improved by endless glam-shots of mediocre gymnastics. Moreover, there is no law of diminishing returns; each additional 45 minutes of gymnastics results in a corresponding increase of several million viewers. Really. Who wants to watch judo, boxing, fencing, racing of any sort besides swimming, or listen to a national anthem that's not played in double-time? Oh, and I'm almost positive this dinosaur _is_ fake; there were a number that were extremely similar but walked around on all fours. The fin was presumably to accumulate/dissipate heat, which suggests a lot of lounging around. Is there any reason why taking a T-rex and putting a sail on its back is sufficiently revolutionary enough to require us to then see them _fight_ to establish which is superior? Although I can't really complain; at least there's no suggestion that we'll see herds and herds of Jar-Jars milling around in swamps and eating out of dumpsters.
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When I first heard tell of another Jurassic Park movie, I balled up in the corner and cried for a little while. It pained me to watch The Lost World. I've seen things butchered worse, but only on a class field trip to a slaughterhouse. The more I hear abot JP3, though, the more I'm inclined to think that it may not be quite so horrid. At least this time they don't have a decent book to annihilate. Of course, I'm praying that it will be substantially darker than the others, and that there won't be any cute little kids saving the day. Cute little kids in movies about gigantic carnivorous monster lizards should serve only one purpose: brutal, sickening death. At any rate, it sounds like they aren't fucking up quite so much as they did before. I'm hoping.
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I've never heard of any Spinosaurs larger than a T-Rex, unless you're comparing an adult specimen to a juvenile. Are we to assume that the size difference is for dramatic purposes only and not prehistoric accuracy? Maybe some budding paleontologist out there can enlighten us all on the most current size data regarding the two animals?
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You people go to such lengths to talk about how JP was fan-boy cotton candy, how JP2 reeked big time, and how JP3 will be a big rotting piece of dino feces. But you know what? You will pay $8 to see it on opening weekend, you will harbor a small hope that it will be good, you will hate it, and you will smother Talkback with profanity-laden reviews that utilize the grammar of 8 year olds. And Universal will still have your $8.
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Here are some facts about Spinosaurus: The dinosaur is 50 feet in length (Trex is 40). It has a six foot tall sail that runs down the dinosaur's back. It has very long, crocodile like jaws that could easily fall just about anything. The dinosaur also has six to 12 inch thumbclaws on each hand. However, it is not as compactly built as Trex. It is actually lighter and perhaps just a tad bit weaker.
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to imagine the majority of you, typing away in the darkened confines of your room, while Mother knocks in vain for an answer from you, as you type away furiously, answering and backbiting at others OVER THE NAME OF SOME DAMNED DINOSAUR in a movie that won't be out for at least a year. Seriously, this is a bit disturbing. The only clear headed people in here are the ones who are mocking this movie (ManOWar, hilarious. I too would pay top dollar to see various boy band members be eaten by extinct bipeds). May this movie make $5 million in the box office and end up on video two months after the theater release.
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I believe I have posted on this message board before regarding the "What on earth is that long snouted dino" post. Yes, you're right it should be a spinosaurus and yes, spinosaurus aegypticus is a real species. There are two other species - Spinosaurus stromer and one still in press - S sp. A good size estimate would be 12-17 metres and we really shouldn't be surprised when another theropod equals T rex in size, it has been reported in about 7 or so different species. My guess is though that none of these dinosaurs in the film will remain the same size throughout - Universal Pictures just aren't that thorough - remember the end sequence in Lost World? > That thing in the logo is based loosely on the spinosauria in general, but is not like any one of them, so realism has it's problems there. For more information about any dinosaur you believe was made up by the movies, check http://www.dinosauricon.com it has it all.
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Ok guys, you want the stats of Spinosaurus? Listen up. First of all, the skeleton is incomplete, so many of the features are guestemates (such as the 12" LONG THUMB CLAW!). His newer relative, Suchomimus, has the thumb claw, as does a distant relative Baryonyx, but it is unknown exactly how long Spinosaurus' would have been. Next, according to these guesstemates, Paleontologists (not archaeologists, as Answer Man said, as they have absolutely nothing to do with dinosaurs) think it was somewhere around 38-40 feet long. T-Rex, with the discovery of Sue, is measured at aprox. 40-41 ft. long. HOWEVER... T-Rex is a whole lot more robust than Spinosaurus.
Another difference (so make sure to look for this in the movie to see if they get it right) is the shape of their teeth. T-Rex has bullet shaped teeth, Carcharodontosaurus has blade-like teeth, but Spinosaurus has teeth like cones, similar to crocodiles.
Whoever said something about the 6ft spine, BRAVO!! You're absolutely right, as with the description of the crocodilian head.
In an all out battle, if Spinosaurus' thumb claw were out of the picture, T-Rex would undoubtably win, considering his bone-crunching capabilities. With the thumb claw though, that should make a very interesting fight scene.
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i have a hard time getting excited for jp3 after the extremely disapointing jp2.
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"a tremendous battle between the T-Rex and the Spinosaurus."
...I read that, and the hairs on the back of my neck stood on end. I can picture the scene now already in my head. Flesh being torn....blood everywhere.
I'm already seeing the 'tree top' escape from the raptors. Grant and his party leaping from tree branch to tree branch or making like Tarzan by swinging on vines...while the raptors below follow their every move.
....sorry my imagination is running rampant right now.
This movie may just be the 'Aliens' of the Jurassic Park franchise.
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Everyone's favorite paleobotanist here. Trust me, spinosaurus is a real dinosaur. And it's pronounced "spine-o-saurus," last time I checked. You know, like spines on its back? Sheesh.
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Uhmmm......aren't you guys overlooking the obvious joke here?
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What the hell is up with this Rory from Pointer Ridge
Elementary as a reference bullshit??? If I went to the Drudge report and there was a lead story about Whitewater, I wouldn't expect some kid's junior high report on President Clinton. This is the lamest example of referencing I have ever seen in my life, and it makes you look like a doofus Harry. Sheesh....is Rory somebody's kid at AICN or something and is he gonna do us up a fine ole' Episode II pictures with his artistic interpretations of Darth Spinyhead and Bobasaurus? Come on Harry, this is absurd. -
Um, since all of you that have been bashing JP III have seen it already, why not write a review of the film on one of these threads? I want to know what makes the movie sooooo bad. Guys, we haven't seen the film yet. Don't bash it until you have watched it. Jeeeeesus. Oh, and the moron who thought that the Spinosaurus was made up : did you know there is a dinosaur called a "Do-you-thinkie-saurus Rex?"
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Um, since all of you that have been bashing JP III have seen it already, why not write a review of the film on one of these threads? I want to know what makes the movie sooooo bad. Guys, we haven't seen the film yet. Don't bash it until you have watched it. Jeeeeesus. Oh, and the moron who thought that the Spinosaurus was made up : did you know there is a dinosaur called a "Do-you-thinkie-saurus Rex?"
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Cut the shit out already, fanboys. All this talk about how JP2 sucked and how it was a terrible movie. I said it before and I'll say it again...NO MOVIE THAT SUCKS MAKES $229 MILLION AT THE BOX OFFICE. The film had excellent special effects, a great score, and some vicious deaths. Yeah, the plot could have been better and idea of a girl kicking a raptor through a wall seems stupid but it didn't ruin the film for me. I loved Jurrasic Park and I was entertained by Lost World. I'll be buying both on DVD when they come out. And I'm not some brainless moron who only likes eye candy. I've seen and enjoyed CITIZEN KANE, TAXI DRIVER, FIGHT CLUB, and A CLOCKWORK ORANGE. I've also enjoyed ID4, ARMEGEDDON, EPISODE 1, and THE MUMMY. I know what to expect when I go see a movie. JP1 and JP2 are both summer thrill rides, no more. If the fact that the plots aren't deep bothers you that much, then don't go see the fucking movie. Stop bitching and shut the fuck up already. And as for people like Fearv who think I should be forced to watch CONGO because I liked Lost World, kiss my Puerto Rican ass. I know a hell of alot more about film than your sorry ass does. Join me in a debate about film and you'll see. Any responses are welcome. PEACE!
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You shouldn't base a movie's greatness on it's money made!! What are you, a movie executive?? The only reason JP2 made so much is because all of us thought it would be good and went to see it. They aren't going to take our money and burn us twice. And I agree with someone's early post...best case scenario for this movie IS to make it ALIENS like. And I think Spinosaurus or whatever is a real dinosaur name, it may be a unimaginative term, but hey....
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I can't help but laugh at the people who thought the spinosaurus was made up. What has the world come to when we can't believe anything on the internet?
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Wasn't this lad{Mr Spiny lizard} a fish eater? He's got that little indented area towards the snout ,in his upper jaw , that usually denotes , a critter that catches fish.Unless they contrive it for Sam Neil to be dressed in a fancy dress fish costume..he should be safe.MMMMM.Having wrote that i've just read on the web..that Spinosaurus was a meat eater , who may have walked on all fours..so that's my theory gone !it also says He was the biggest Carnosaur of all time, at 4 ton.Spielberg and co must be flipping thru , the big junior book of dinosaurs , looking for anything as cool as a Raptor.I dont think this is it,Allosaurus on the other hand combines the worste biting and grabbing bits of Velociraptors and t-Rex's.You only have to look at their skeletons, to know what bastards a pack of them would be!
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The first movie, and the first book even more so, I thought were very good. The Lost World the book was alright, but unfortunetely the movie sucked. Now, let's see...a third movie, no Crichton book, no Spielberg directing, no John Williams conducting, I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts there's not gonna be a plot worth writing home about (if there's a plot at all,) though I know I'll go see it because of the legacy of the first movie/book, and some hopefully nicely (and ACCURATELY) presented animals, and action. Now, don't get me wrong, I really, sincerely hope this is going to prove me wrong and end up being a good movie, but folks, it doesn't look good...
Oh, and in binomial nomenclature, the species name is always lowercase. Hence, T. rex (or T-rex,) S. aegypticus [tenerensis, maybe?] (and YES, Dwarf, it's a real name. Please quit trying to make people on here frustrated; it doesn't work that way in the real world. Now it's time to grow up and at least try to act intelligent. I know it's tough.) Thank you a million times over for those of you who already knew that; sorry to the rest, but, it gets irritating.
There's no such thing as "air" or "water" dinosaurs. Unless you mean birds, which are (according to latest belief) avian dinosaurs.
One last thing; it's paleontologist, NOT archaeologist. Vertebrate paleontologists study dinosaurs and other extinct vertebrate ANIMALS, whereas archaeologists are limited to humans and human ethnology.
Take care.
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Apparently Rory is going to be a story-board artist in the Spider-Man film!!!! Take that Alex Ross!!! Now Rory sent me one of his pieces, which he crossed his heart and hoped to die, is absolutely going to be in the film!!! Check it out ----> http://www.projectmonkey.com/rory.html
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In a way, I am glad that everyone is slamming JP3 before release and not letting their hopes build up only to be shattered. But the last time i remember this happening was with this summer's release of XMEN, fanboys and non alike all thought this movie was going to suck royal ass, and as the majority of you know, XMEN was a great film. So i say bash JP3, all of you, let the negativity flow freely, but regardless, i want you to give your 8 dollars to your local theatre and either prove to me you were right, or be blown away by what may be the best movie of 2001.
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Thought you might like to link your readers to a more scientific site related to spinosaurids. Spinosaurus was indeed a spectacular beastie and large. Unfortunately, its fossils were destroyed in a museum in Germany when it was bombed during WWII. So, there is no more Spinosaurus. However, the next best thing is Suchomimus, another large preadatory dinosaur with a sail-back discovered in Niger and named by Paul Sereno of the Univ. of Chicago.
Suchomimus, which means "crocodile mimic" because of its croc-like snout and jaws, was 36 feet long and probably used its huge hand claws to scoop fish from the water like a grizzly. Its head is long and narrow and would make a great pretzel stick for a T. rex. Learn more about it at Sereno's site: http://dinosaur.uchicago.edu/Suchomimus.html
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With the new information on this guy he would not be a good lead. He IS a scavenger, his teeth are not those of predators. (Straight instead of curved) It has recently been discovered he does not have a sail, it was more likely a big hump like a buffalo used to store food. It is larger then the T-Rex, but lower to the ground and not made for brining down prey.
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Ummm, am I the only person who recognized the spinosaurus from the JP3 logo? If this is the first time anyone's brought this to attention then we're slacking on our research.
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... was the only dino bigger than the T-Rex. Not mentioning those vegetarian bastards (Brachio, Bronto and bros).
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... I used to be a friggin' Dinosaur-expert when I was a kid. There WAS a Dinosaur called Spinoaurus. It was a flesh-eater. There has been a while since I was real into this shit but belive me, all the names and dinosaurs in the JP-franchize are "for real".
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Another one? I hate trilogies. It's such a bad number. 2 and 4's okay,but I don't really like 3. First that Willie Movie, then Scream, and now this??? What is with all the trilogies??
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Actually, two more carnivores have been found that rival T-Rex's size. Gigonotosaurus actually surpasses T-Rex by about 1-2 ft. Carcharodontosaurus is also about the same size as T-Rex.
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The cute widdle drawing of the cute widdle dinosaur by some cute widdle kid and in the corner? Harry smashing himself in his mansnatch with a crucifix. Real classy. :) By the way....saw EXORCIST tonight at the Mann's Chinese Theater. It was pretty damn good. See it!
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Don't you just love these morons that use the word "fanboy" as if it's an insult AND they criticize people for reading "this news" and discussing it on the board "while their mom beats on the door". A) If the person bitching is at AICN he IS a fanboy and b) They read the news AND posted(whining like some 12 y/o girl) probably while THIER mom is beating on the door asking them if they're jerking off again. Not that they're kids, they're most likely 30 y/o virgins who need to diss everyone just to feel like less of a pathetic loser.
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I was intrigued by the addition of Spinosaurus to "Jurassic Park 3". But then, it only makes sense that the producers want to have something new for audiences to look forward to.
In reality Spinosaurus (found in Africa) would never have encountered Tyrannosaurus rex (found in North America) even though the continents were connected back then. As far as we can tell from fossil records, they lived very far apart. Another point many people don't seem to know is that T. rex was not the largest carnivorous dinosaur. In fact there are several other species that grew somewhat larger, including several species of Allosaurus (which is thought to be a distant relative of Spinosaurus). Not much is known of some of these huge predators. Dr. Robert T. Bakker (on whom Sam Neil's character was based in "Jurassic Park") wrote the following on Spinosaurus in his book "The Dinosaur Heresies": "Largest of the dinosaurs resorting to display was the appropriately named Spinosaurus, the 'spine lizard,' a forty-foot predator probably related distantly to Allosaurus. All specimens of Spinosaurus are frustratingly fragmentary, but it's clear a tall sail decorated its back, rising six to eight feet above the backbone. A strutting Spinosaurus must have been a singular sight--striding on its hind legs, its head twenty feet above the ground, turning broadside to dare its rival to test its potency."
I'm glad there are so many educated people here who can educate those who may not know the facts, and to keep film makers on their toes. I love movies and I love to learn. If you're a movie fan, you have to also be an avid reader. Books are the basis of many movies and they contain all of man's knowledge. I hope film, TV, and the internet won't destroy the importance of books. Oh, and since movies are usually fictional, filmmakers are allowed some artistic license. If you want pure facts you can watch the Discovery Channel, rent "Walking With Dinosaurs," or read Dr. Bakker's book. See you at the movies! :~) -
Those movies sucked. Like we are to belive that some dumb fuck could really bring back those dinosaurs from dna, come on how dumb do you Americans think we Brits are? You fucks have to learn how to make movies that have meaning. Fuck Hollywood.
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I first read the book while I was in Costa Rica, only a few miles from where the story was taking place, so I remember the book vividly. I read it overnight, looking over my shoulder for dinosaurs. Then I saw the movie. It was nearly what I expected and looked so much like Costa Rica that I was entranced. What a show!
The second movie was awful for me, and I think I know why. JP's original theme was typical Crichton. "This story happened, but you will never hear about it because it's a closely guarded secret." That's what made the story plausible (and scary) to me.
Then a T-Rex wreaks havoc in beautiful downtown Burbank, turning itself into Godzilla and turning Isla Nublar into Monster Island, the disbelief is gone. I am watching camp.
Does anyone agree with me on this?
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Well you Brits where dumb enough to loose the Revolutionary war, dumb enough to create the Spice Girls,, dumb enough to care about when a member of the Royal Family stubs their toe, dumb enough not to grant Ireland independence, dumb enough to deny Sean Connery knighthood... Oh well at least the UK produced The Beatles, Pink FLoyd, Mony Python Alfred Hitchcock and Sir Alec Guineas so I guess it's not all bad. :) See I can see the good and the bad... Unlike so many of you Brits who diss the USA every chance you get. Heck you guys would be saluting the Nazi flag if not for us Americans so shut up already.
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What I meant to post:
First off, I want to say that Dwarf got let off the hook rather too lightly. Granted I don't expect that everyone should be an arm-chair palentologist, but at least get the facts before you go on a tirade. Yes, Dwarf, the entire pantheon of dinosaur species were not given super-cool names like Tyranosaurus Rex or Velociraptor (or even moderatly cool ones like Monoclonus or Chasmosaurus). Some were given fairly lame names like the signature animal in JP3, the infamous Spinosaurus (rivaled in lame names only by Iquanadon, which in case your wondering, Dwarf, translates into "iguana tooth", named for the shape of it's teeth, not it's resemblence to that God-awful American made Godzilla).
Now, on to another minor bone of contention (no pun intended). Yes, StoneClaw, there are other species recently discovered that rival and surpass the size of Tyranosaurus (I applaud your knowlede of the recent finds), however the inclusion of these, or indeed even the Spinosaurus, suggests that the Jurassic Park genetecists were lucky enough to have found mosquitos that fed on every single species of dinosaur known to man! I think a more likely scenerio would be to unravel prehistoric DNA trapped these epochs in a matrix of amber and discover a living version of an previously unidentiefied species. Then at least Dwarf would have something to complain about!
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Actually Grant was based on paleontologist Jack Horner. The goofy dope who gets killed in Lost World was based on Robert T. Bakker which kind of disappointed me since he LOOKED like Bakker but acted like Hollywood's stereotypical goofy looking chubby guy - a moron which Bakker most definitely is not. I personally think Bakker is the most interesting Dino expert there is. I highly suggest any of you who are interesting in Dinos read his superb novel "Raptor Red". I still adore the line that went something like "It was a information super highway all written in shit." I wonder whatever happened to the film they where going to make based on it, could be the film Disney's Dinosaur should have been (NO talking dinos). ILM could do it %100 CGI or film real locals like in "Dinosaur" and discovery's wonderful "Walking with Dinosaurs". Also if your a Bakker fan check out the old SegaCD graphic adventure game based on JP. (I remember buying it the day it came out in Dec of '93) There's quite a bit of footage of him spouting off dino info. It's rather cool.
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I saw a post about how the size of T-rex changes in the end scene. Exactly when and how big of a difference was it? Could someone explain it to me? I haven't seen the movie in about 8 years, when I was 10. BTW, if the movie came out 7 years ago, I was guessing. Don't tell me and say I was lying or something.
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