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Does GHOSTBUSTERS 3 Have A Ghost Of A Chance'
Hey folks, Harry here... Well, shucks... For all of those hanging on to hopes about seeing a third GHOSTBUSTERS film... well, it looks like it is as dead as a dead thing what can't move at all. And from the looks of it, it is all Bill Murray's fault!!! SO... At least you now know who to direct angry frustrated thoughts at.
At a press conference for his latest film, Denys Arcand's "Stardom", here at the TIFF, Dan Aykroyd was asked what was happening with Ghostbusters 3. Bluntly, he said "it's dead". He described it as "a combination of not getting the right story, and the business side of things.". He also stated the primary reason was that Bill Murray didn't want to be involved, and that they all pretty much agreed there wouldn't be much point in doing it without him. He also said that it was a relief when they finally made the decision and he was happy just working as an actor. To my eye though, those statements seemed a tad contrived.
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Well, it's better to let it rest instead of screwing up the whole series. I feel the same way about other series like BttF too! Don't tarnish their memory.
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I would hope they would quit while they were ahead. one was amazing, but two? almost MST3k material.
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I for one am glad this isn't going to happen. It would just be a tired rehash of the original clever idea (kinda like Ghostbusters 2 which should have never been made). Murray's definately the smart one here.
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Hey, Ghostbustin' dudes, Freddie Prinze Jr, hizere! You know, smiling is great! It makes you feel great, it makes you look great, even if you already do...it basically rocks! Anyways, if Bill Murray is too busy or whatever, I'm play Veeckman! I could like be him after he got some cool spell put on him! See, I can ask Sarah about all of the supernormal stuff, what with her playing Buffy and being in Scream III (or was it II?) Plus I was in "I know what you did last summer again" and everything. Plus I was in "Wing Commander" so a.) I know all about blastin' baddies and b.) you guys liked that movie, right? Well, then you'd love this. I always thought Mr. Ackroyd was hysterical in Stripes and 48 Hrs (we won't mention Another 48 Hours). So e-up Harry, a.k.a. Numbero Uno Kewl Dude! Well, gotta go, but keep me in mind. P.S. Who ya gonna ring? (Sarah, stop. I can't type with you between me and keyboard...I can hardly see the monitor...)
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First, who cares? Was Ghostbusters II so memorable that it would justify a third movie? I guess everything has to be made into a trilogy these days. Second, that Harry animation is a beauty. Take off, eh.
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I've always thought that Dan Aykroyd was always trying his damndest to be like Bill Murray. AM I alone on this one? TalkBackers: "Yes! Shut up!" Oh..... I'll go cry now.
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Bill Murray is a hell of a lot funnier to me than Dan Aykroyd!
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Sep 11, 2000 1:57:38 PM CDT
Kee-rist, Knowles, you're such a tease with yer headlines!
by lance rock
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There's no point in hurting the original GHOSTBUSTERS, which is a truly great comedy, with another bad sequel. If what Ackroyd said about the writing is true (and it probably is, judging from the sequels we have out there now) then it is best to let sleeping dogs lie. Besides, who wants to do a GHOSTBUSTERS film without Bill Murray?
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Would be like Highlander 3. Backpedaling from an inferior 2nd installment is damn near impossible. Hard to understand why GB2 was so bad when they had a cartoon that was full of any number of cooler villains and ideas than "Viggo the Carpathian" and the pink mood slime. Anyone remember the Sandman, Samhain, "What", the Boogeyman, and the were-chicken? All sorts of fun.
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Sep 11, 2000 2:51:53 PM CDT
A Ghostbusters sequel without Bill Murray would be like a Blues
by lonesome doug
Oh yeah, Dan Aykroyd was dumb enough to make that movie.
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Here's the breakdown: 1)Bill Murray rules 2)Dan Ackroyd sucks 3)Ghostbusters good, but dated 4)Ghostbusters bad, period. The world is not waiting for Ghostbusters 3. By the way, I'd like to give a shout out to things that are good: Capucin Monkeys in bellhop clothing, Homer Simpson riding a tiny unicycle that is slowly pulling his pants off, the band Voivod, British slang such as 'nob cheese', the scene in 'Rushmore' where Murray attempts to bitch-slap one of his twin sons from the front seat of his car, and Thai peanut sauce. Right on.
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...learn to spell his name correctly! And before you make a blanket statement like "he sucks," realize that it was he who came up with the whole Ghostbusters idea to begin with. Let's also not forget he's had a number of memorable supporting parts in recent years like "Grosse Pointe Blank. He will, however, never be forgiven for the Blues Brothers resurrection debacle. Once the studio demanded a kid be in it, he should have packed it in right there.
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Ya know, when things die, they leave ghosts. They'll revive it sometime. I'm sure. It'll just be different.
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Make a third one but get an ALL new cast...maybe the old Police Acadamy bunch? Hmmm...most are retired or dead. Won't work. Or maybe a fat and unfunny
John Goodman plus some worthless
kid actor...oh that sad joke been done too. I know...get the old left over original cast of Saturday Night Live!! Chevy Chase would have the comeback of the new century. It isn't a franchise until it's beatin' into the ground with a #4, just like Highlander did. -
Sep 11, 2000 6:00:05 PM CDT
For anyone interested, listen up. Here's the REAL reason this mo
by axelfoley
I know the reasons why Ghostbusters 3 isn't going to happen. And let me tell you, Bill Murray's refusal is not the whole puzzle. I must tell all of yous though that this is NOT brand new information. It's been publicized in an interview Access Hollywood did with an upset Ackroyd last November. He was turned off with Columbia's decision not to fund a script he had ready. He and Ivan Reitman were in talks about it, but Ivan didn't seem too enthused about lending his name toward the credits. Apparently, Dan and Harold Ramis were working a script and Ramis was tapped to direct. Made sense, since Ramis has been in the chair a number of times over the past 20 years. Now, before the interview, this project has been in the 'ol movies rumored phase for at least 2 and a half years. They've even tried to get Ray Parker Jr, the guy who sang the infamous theme song of the original to write a new song for the movie. Columbia turned Ackroyd down, basically stressing to him that with franchises like The Blair Witch Project, there was no telling whether or not the general movie going public-- the majority of which brainwashed with Buffy the Vampire Slayer and other assorted overrated teenybopper bullshit that's uh, with it would still care about his unique and concept of 1980s pop culture. Columbia didn't want to take the risk and shell out millions of dollars on what they evidently thought would be a HUGE risk. Reasons behind there actions? Well for one, and this is very key... Ackroyd's script involved a storyline that would require one HUGE ASS budget. If the movie was made, we would see modern day NYC become one with the depths of Hell. The concept and ideas Ackroyd had in articles I've read made this one sound very interesting. He said himself, that the movie would be a whole new team. They wanted younger, popular celebrities. Freddie Prinze Jr, Ryan Phillippe and Leo Di Caprio were who they were looking for or at least in the lines of in general. Ackroyd quipped on occasion that he, Ramis, and Bill Murray, (who was turning down the movie flat pretty much from the get go), were going to be nowhere to be seen in the third installment except for cameos. They were going to hand off the baton to a new team of ghostbusters, with the three original-- and unfortunately, without Ernie Hudson, and serve as mentors. Will Smith was even in heavy consideration at one point. So was Chris Farley, before he passed. Sigourney Weaver was being courted but didn't one anything to do with this movie either, so I think Ackroyd said Venkman and Dana would already be wed and off on there own-- explaning there absences if 3 were to ever hit the screen. Now that it won't, Ackroyd was furious with the stubborn suits. The problem from the get go, and again this news was already revealed last November, was that 1) the direction Ackroyd and Ramis were going with their final script was going to require "too much money" and 2) the suits were skeptical whether or not they still had something here. They weren't high on giving it a green light and since the company owns the rights to the franchise, Ackroyd can't shop his baby around to other movie studios, unless they're willing to shell over millions upon millions of money. The studios aren't intent on doing that themselves. If the movie was made, I'd see it. However, now that's it highly likely never to see the light of day, I'm not exactly opposed to that decision-- however, IMHO it would be interesting to see a 21st century spin on Ghostbusters. There wasn't one during the entire 90s. Ghostbusters II is not as bad as people say it is. Good sequel, funny movie, but no way in hell better than the original. -
we need ghostbusters III about as much as we need "wes craven's breakin' IV: a new electric bugaloo". or maybe "goonies: the next generation". how about "three men and a bitter teenager"?
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Sep 11, 2000 6:05:41 PM CDT
Good point Anx, but I was thinking more along the lines of "Thre
by uncapie
It fits along the "teen angst" theme. Maybe the "Ghostbusters" could make an appearance to exorcise her.
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Yahoo Serious is back, stalking the country with his new film, "Mr Accident". Here's how I imagine Yahoo at the studios pitching it: "I want to make a really bad film that features me, has been written by me and will be promoted by me". I have valium, want some? Apparently when you're on valium you truly "appreciate" Yahoo Serious' work.
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The gimmick has been done. Funny guys that hunt ghosts. It was good the first time, lackluster the second. One can only imagine the horrific third film.
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No one wants to see a new cast with Ghostbusters. You can't beat the originals. What WOULD be interesting was if, say, one of the OG Team DIED and as a ghost found out about Sam Hein's plot to open a portal to the earth, and terrorized the original team. It could be like Ghost, like he just wanted to communicate w/ them but was misunderstood but in the end helps them out. Hilarity and in-jokes insue. I'd pick Murray as the central character, of course.
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Maybe a GB TV series would work nicely? It need not invalidate the movies or anything else... Simply say the plot goes something like: Supernatural activities have so greatly increased since the start of the new millinium that GB have been forced through circumstances to create offshoot branches worldwide to deal with them... Have the story follow one of the teams, such as Ghostbusters-UK, and go from there...
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Before I heard they were going to put all these young actors like Will Smith and Conan O'Brian. Not that I wouldn't want Conan to be in it. Anyways, if Bill ever wants to come back they better make it. GB3 will kick ass! But they made a good call to cancell it, and if he was lying, I'm still going to see it.
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. . .if they'd simply used the "COLLECT CALL OF CTHULHU" storyline from the animation. That would have been truly excellent, as it was a funny, well-written story. But they didn't, and GBII stank. As for III--don't. Just don't. It is SO very over; the only thing that would possibly (POSSIBLY) save the franchise now is a storyline involving the EXTREME GHOSTBUSTERS, with Tim Burton not only directing but writing THE best script of his entire life; a budget in the US$150-200 million range; and DiCaprio, Will Smith, Ed Norton and the always delightful Christina Ricci in the leads. Anyone wanna bet THAT'S gonna happen? Didn't think so. Let it lie; its time has passed.
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Sure Bill Murray made the film, but surly so did the writers, why do we need the old actors howabout a perfect line up of ghostbusters including
Will Smith, Adan Sandler, maybe Jean Reno and Jenifer Lopez
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After GB2 I can't belive ANYONE would want to see GB3! They are making JP3, even though JP2 sucked and I for one am not hyped to see it.. after an abortion of a sequel, say like GB2 or JP2, No one is dying for another.. T2 rocked so we all want T3, but I have never heard ANYONE ask for AirPlane3 or Lion King3, have You?
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I agree most sequels are rubbish, but I think that if a complete change of story is used it's like a new film anyway, for example Indiana Jones. I think anymore than three films is bad, but a trilogy is a nice number remember three is the magic number!
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true GB2 sucked, but you had to love when the little guy asked why he was dripping with goo, Now on the subject of GB3 it would kick ass with a whole new cast, have Ackroid(yes i know thats not how you spell his name) play the cooky old boss, screw Murray(the uptight bastard) have Ash Housewares come in as the same character, I mean who has more experience with the supernatural, then you bring in Chris Tucker as the same kinda character as Fith Element(picture the scenes with him trying to catch ghosts and screaming:))Jackie Chan as the funny can't speak english element and then bring back Vinkman cause hes my favorite. I think wee have a winner just give me a call i you wanna see a script
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or did anyone else hear that there's actually some film in the can for GB3 made by Chris Farley before he died?????? He was going to play a brief part as a ghost??????? I dont think I want to see a GB3 but I do want to see this footage if possible!!!
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With so many Bad idead sequels being greenlighted (Urban Legend 2, Blair Witch 2, I Still Know Part 3) Why is it that a DECENT sequel like Ghostbusters III can't get off the ground. What the heck is WRONG with Bill Murray? He hasn't made a good movie since Groundhog Day. Why would he POSSIBLY turn down a gaurenteed goldmine like Ghostbusters III? Is he planning a sequel to his huge hit Larger than Life? Of maybe The Man Who knew too Little?? Dumb, Murray. Just Dumb. Ghostbusters is one of the best films of the 80's, and Ghostbusters II is one of the rare comedy sequels that is everybit as funny as the original. This is a film that is just SCREAMING to be made. Hollywwod TRUELY is STUPID. They'll pass on this but I'm sure we'll be treated to such hits as "SNL Cheerleaders:The Movie", and "Blair Witch 3".
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c'mon. this is a good thing. bill murray is still making great movies. (ex. Rushmore) dan ackroyd is making shit. (ex. Blues Brothers 2000) Ghostbusters 3 might be *okay* at best. but it wouldn't be as good as anything bill murray is doing now.
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I don't like Sarah Michelle Gellar because I am very knowledgeable of her bitch related practices at the MTV Movie Awards and other places. She's too high on herself, and yes she is talented, but needs to get her head out of her ass. Don't like Joss Whedon either because of his bitter attitude toward the X-Men thing. Being fucked over is never a good thing, I can relate to his frustration, but if that interview he gave afterwards didn't indicate that he seriously lacks professionalism in interviews I don't know what does. Also, the dude says that Buffy could kick the movie Blade's ass if the two ever fought, NO WAY BUDDY! Wesley would beat her ass. -
I mean, the cartoon was great, why not produce an animated tv movie with the GB3 script? That way the script would be used and venkamn would be in it whether or not Bill Murray wanted to do it. Yeah, I know, there was the Extreme Ghostbusters too, but c'mon... it was useless...
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Do not get me started...all I will say is that it was not a so called "sequel", but an homage to the first one (i.e. because the first one had a span of 18 yrs. between it and was by then legendary). But I think they are pretty equal, just in varying areas and on their OWN terms, NOT as symbiots as everyone tends to think...
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I think the only chance it really had was when the idea was thrown around to have Chris Farley, Will Smith, and possibly Conan O'Brian. But when Farley died, the idea died with it. I don't think the movie would be as good with the old cast anyways. They're getting up there. Ackroyd is overwiegh and bald, Ramis is just overweight, and Murry is going major grey. Oh well. I charish the two movies that we do have. Not to mention the old cartoon show, which owned.
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In a recent Playboy they interviewed Horald Ramis, he said Bill only would do the movie if he could die in the first 5 minutes and be a ghost for the rest of the film. I also read an interview over a year ago about ole Bill and he said the same thing. I believe all this info can be seen at Corona's movie site. The other points that were made were the studio really wanted to do it, but it would have to be very heavy CGI and they would have to introduce Gen-X ghostbusters to carry on the story. In the Ramis interview he mentions this, and in the past I read that this was not an option (with Ackroid-sorry about spelling but it is late and I don't feel like looking it up). I hope this info helps destroy some myths. I'm not some Ghostbusters freaks, but I do follow the trades and all this info can also be read in past issues.
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Um, if the project is dead, how come sony bought the www.ghostbusters3.com domain? I mean, I know they just might not want some guy in his bedroom getting the name, but it makes ya think... I wonder... could they be hiding something great? Is it already underway? Yeah, wishful thinking, I was a GB FREAK as a kid and still love the movies, and would love to see the third movie, with oe without the original cast. Dan, if it ain't getting made, shove the script up online and let the fans see it! We have imaginations y'know!
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First off, I love ghostbusters, and am a big enough fan to let some of the things in GB2 slide...overall, i thought it was a pretty good follow up, though, definately not in the same vein. And the courtroom scene was definaetly the best ghostbusting sequence done. Again, I'm not completely against it. However, I think making a third would be terrible, because it would be so influenced by current comedies on the market - Adam Sandler crap and American Pie short attention span type stuff. Jeez, look at Ackroyds Blues Brothers 2000 - if GB3 ended up that way...good god!I'm all for Conan O'Brien in a suit - that'd be pretty damn cool, but Adam Sandler? That brings a level of comedy to ghostbusters that would ruin it. Harry's review of the original is right: what makes ghostbusters such a great movie is that it's a serious comedy. You have to believe that the world actually might end because of gozer to enjoy the movie...and I dont think this aspect would be in GB3. Oh well. Soemone get a bootleg script already!
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Okay, listen to my rambling rant. SOME PERSON will come up with A WAY to get GB3 out there. Personally, I think the past decade has SUCKED for film. It's all about running up and down a set of stairs chasing some gorgeous blonde with a bloody butcher knife. True, it was that way with Jason too, but at least back then the character actually had some........DEPTH. I'm so sick of these I-can't-believe-what-you-did-last-spring and Scream movies I could puke. Seriously. Seemingly, the only shreds of hope people have nowadays are George Lucas, M Night Shyamalan, and Steven Spielberg.
I am a child of the eighties. I am obsessed with the Children of the Corn Series, Ghostbusters, Nightmare on Elm Street, etc...while Children of the Corn and Nightmare on Elm Street have been done to death, I think Ghostbusters has a lot of potential oomph left. I can see the handing-over of the torch to a younger, more energetic and athletic generation. But not just ANYONE should fill this spot. Freddie Prinze, Jr? Please, he's in every single f*cking bubblegum teenybopper flick out. Same thing goes with every other popular teen idol smearing the silver screen with their presence. I want some UNKNOWN people in this film.
SOMEONE WILL DO THIS. I think I already said that.
I can see a group of younger ghostbusters...three guys, and a girl or two maybe, whatever. Can't be more than six people. There has to be a rebellious smartass type and a nerdy straight-A type. I think a bratty rich kid would fit in too, along with a science-fiction-crazed geek loser and an outcast who listens to die hard heavy metal. Maybe a sheltered upper-middle-class kid who's trying to keep his anal parents happy.
THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE YOUNG ACTORS WHO ARE UNDERRATED.
Brandon Kleyla should have the lead. Why? Because I said so. He was awesome in Children of the Corn 4, and he sent me an autographed picture. He's also a rabid fan of Ghostbusters. I suppose that has something to do with it.
Next is Miko Hughes. While everyone is drooling on the prominent roles in Roswell, Miko's role of Nicholas is getting ignored. Miko Hughes has been acting since INFANCY. Nuff Said.
Next in line is Joseph Mazzello, or maybe Mason Gamble, or both. These people haven't been seen in AGES, and I think they would do wonderfully.
Next is Heather Matarazzo. I dunno, it just seems like she'd fit in one of these movies.
And lastly, Kirsten Dunst. I know, I know, I dissed teen idols just a few minutes ago. But this chick can ACT. I first saw her in Interview with a Vampire, and her performance was spectacular. Bring it On made me change my entire view on cheerleaders. I also saw her in Tower of Terror with John Franklin(Isaac Chroner from the first Children of the Corn) and it was great too.
So there's my rant. I hope someone important sees this, but even if they don't, it felt damn good to get it off my chest.
All you GhostHeads out there......have faith, people. The days of child-sized gray suits, proton-packs, ectoplasm -in-a-cup WILL be back. And I'll be waiting. Hell, I'll probably be one of the first people to buy the new toys. I had them ALL when I was in kindergarten. -
Hell yeah kiddo! I agree all the way, and that's a helluva cast selection. Miko would kick ass, heh. And I STILL have my mint-condition RGB proton pack!
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