Aug. 31, 2000, 5:32 p.m. CST
Sounds like some pact has been made between the big red dude from down below and most people in power. The world is run by really evil bastards who just want to screw everyone and their mothers. Power to the little people and bring back the luddites. :-)
Aug. 31, 2000, 5:51 p.m. CST
that was cool:)
Aug. 31, 2000, 5:57 p.m. CST
For the past two months I didn't think AICN had much to warrant reading but the Alex Ross interview is really really good. Thanks for doing it! I admire Alex Ross a lot and learning some of the stories behind the BS of filmmaking and both the DC and Marvel productions has been enlightening. I love what Alex says about how the Xmen writing went downhill after the Claremont / Byrne pairing.
Aug. 31, 2000, 6:02 p.m. CST
by Wesley Snipes
Perhaps the tone isn't properly conveyed, but every Ross interview I've ever read makes him seem like an irritated and highly critical egotist. Is this just the way he speaks or what? He's like the comic book guy from the Simpsons but with talent. You'd think a guy with such success and ability would be more relaxed...
Aug. 31, 2000, 6:58 p.m. CST
I agree with the above poster about the quality of this interview and the value of AICN. I like to come here to pick up on production tidbits and industry rumors so that I can follow Hollwood from the inside a bit, and I have left reading comics regularly behind many years ago (not coincidentlyy just after the industry began to go downhill as the interview suggests, in the post-Byrne X-Men/post-Watchmen, post-Dark KNight era, when practicallyno one was doing any original work anymore, just derivative crap that was a bad imitation of such prior work). With an interest in genre films, I am reading more and more interviews of comics creators and their takes on the Hollywood process, and this is a very good and lucid interview of that type. Harry needs to bring in more stuff of substance like this that illustrates the importance of the connections between Hollywood and some of the sources such as comics that it often exploits for creative material. Also, the insights into the comic world are interesting on their own merits. Kudos.
Aug. 31, 2000, 8:29 p.m. CST
First off, as much as i love Alex, the spidey design looks kind of ridiculous. in fact, im very skeptical on whether a Spider-Man movie could be taken seriously, given the outlandish costumes. No one will believe a teen-ager designed and made that costume. However, if the costume is not made by Peter himself, but by someone in the wrestling industry during spideys stint as a wrestler, well, then i could believe it. And with the kind of costumes worn today, especially be the Mexican luchadores, that kind of costume would not be at all unbelievable. Oh, and if the Green Goblin is to be taken at all seriously, he needs be portrayed as evil. and i dont mean typical comic book evil. he needs to be Hannibal Lecter insanely evil. NO making a fool of himself (see Joker in Batman). The Goblin will have to be one bad-ass muda foka! 'Nooch.
Aug. 31, 2000, 8:38 p.m. CST
What a pompous ass. Has this guy ever stopped to think that maybe his ideas suck and that's why shit keeps falling apart for him? "This sucks that sucks I'm so superior in my efforts and thoughts whaa whaa blah blah" suck my cock
Aug. 31, 2000, 8:58 p.m. CST
by The Garbage Man
Everyone was in town to celebrate Henri's birthday - he had just reached the precocious age of 42. Although Henri requested a Skiing Barbie, I settled on a more appropriate gift for a proper young Englishman: booze and hookers. When the big day arrived, the tension was so thick you could lick it on the cheek (it likes that). The party was going smashingly when my present to Henri arrived. Unfortunately, the alcohol turned out to be the urine generated by a rottweiler's weight in chihuahuas, and the prostitute was revealed to be a very sexually confused Gary Coleman. This was all outrageously humorous until Gary, frightened and startled by the sound of laughter, launched into a flurry of punches and kicks directed at the female guests. Henri and I decided that it was his best birthday party ever...
Aug. 31, 2000, 9:08 p.m. CST
I knew Hollywood was messed up, but it's always sad to confront the truth in all its hideous glory. There's just no dealing with that world, and we're lucky if we like ANY of their films. On another note, Harry, what are you talking about Star Trek 3 for? That film was great, and bringing Spock back was a must. Plus, Nimoy suddenly said "hey, I want to come back," after first asking to die, so hey get over it. Besides, there was more to that film than bringing back Spock. Oh, and while I don't care about Hulk, and I agree that there is much I miss about classic Aquaman that I wish Peter David hadn't subtracted, I love David's work in general and am sad to see Harry's first mention of the guy(to my eyes on this site anyway) be in the negative. The man is a born storyteller, and a hoot in person.
Aug. 31, 2000, 11:06 p.m. CST
by Hyper Spazz
Thats the thing that I fooking hate about comic book movies. "This version of 'so and so man' will be my vision" Well, you know thats fine and all, BUT, it isn't really your vision is it? You didn't create that character or the suit did you? The character has been doing just fine without you, what makes ya think that you are going to make it any better? The egos that are involved with the production of the comic book movies need to go. I mean what the fuck is wrong with the Spider-Man suit that has kicked ass since the 60's? And what is up with the "problem" with not seeing a characters eyes. The audience can't relate. My ass. It's a total non-issue. I think that all these money hunger fucks in hollywood are missing the point of this shit. All this shit is supposed to be escapist fantasy. It's supposed to be fun. Quit trying to make it real. Just make it fun.
Aug. 31, 2000, 11:42 p.m. CST
by PANIC NOW
Having been a comics fan for decades and deeply interested in its possibilities, it's been great to read Alex's stuff. 'Earth X', 'Astro City', 'Kingom Come', etc. have given nobility to an otherwise pathetic, gasping for breath medium. 'Earth X' gave me the tingling in the guts feeling. One I haven't felt since reading 'Watchmen' 'Mage' or 'Dark Knight'. Okay, even 'Sandman'. I actually got to the comic shop on the days that 'E.X' showed up. Something I haven't done in almost 8 years! And he's right, one should be wary, Hollywood rapes these artists and writers creations, leaving them for dead. Now don't get me wrong, I know they're just comics, but c'mon...how eager were y'all to find out how much 'X-Men' would suck? (I know, I was glad, too). And it's because character rights were bought from those guys early on and left in the hands of people who didn't give a rat's ass. (Stan Lee: you're a scumbag looser and I hope Kirby, Simon and Everett kick your spectral ass, you traitor!) And said film companies shouldn't get Ross' designs unless they're committed to them. I've seen many friends get money for rights, only to sit around with thier hands tied FOR YEARS. I hope these artists let people (the public) know when they've been bent over (Fritz the Cat) so we can NOT fork over 8bucks, and teach them a lesson. I know things are getting better here and there; Dini and Timm were great with thier Sprang and Miller renditions. Kudos. Kudos for the whole series, actually. What IS it with Marvel?!?!?!? Any of you comatose drool-cups reading this? Stop embarrassing yourself and the mythology you control. You can only dodge bankruptcy bullets for so long. 'Kay, I'm done. Whew, I needed that.
Sept. 1, 2000, 12:20 a.m. CST
Not to get off on a rant here (sorry Dennis) but there is a phrase that keeps popping up in any conversation or talkback about anything comic related that seems more and more ludicrous every time I see it. It's the "It's only comics" phrase, and I honestly can't figure it out. If we're talking about it in the context of "Sure, lots of people died in that earthquake in gotham, but don't worry, it's only comics" sur,e I can understand it. It's merely drawing the distinction between fiction and reality, and not something anyone should worry over. However, more often than not, it pops up in a conversation revolving around fiction anyways, and so leaves me baffled. Why is comics an art medium that needs to be apologized for, or even dismissed? One rarely sees the phrase "It's only sculpture" or "It's only literature" pop up in a conversation, but comics seem to keep getting this particulat snub, and no one seems to question it, much less mind. When X-Men came out, the phrase "It's good, for a comic book movie" kept coming up, as if somehow a movie based on a comic should be held to a lower standard. Baffling, since most films are total works of fiction to begin with, and MOST are action oriented power fantasies, much like most comic book titles. I guess what I'm asking for is perhaps more specificity when the remark is made. After all, I can certainly see the phrase "It was good, for a Schwartzenegger (apologies for mispelling) movie", hell I've used it myself, but a movie based on a comic book (the medium) should not be confused with a movie based on Super Heroes (genre). Obviously, the expectations for a Superhero movie are going to be different than, say, a period piece on the Franco/Prussian war, as the subject matter is of differing types in all degrees, but that dosn't necessarily mean that one is to be held to a different standard than another. Think about it, what is it that makes a good comic book? Pretty much exactly that smae things that makes a good movie or, to varying degrees, book. A strong plot with interesting characters with more than one level to them. What's sad to see is the lowering of expectations for action films and action comics, becuase "It's only action". BS.... The memorable action films and action comics, the good ones, are the ones that delivered a compelling story with interesting and 'real' characters with depth. This is what seperates a comic like Kingdom Come from, well, lets' say 80% of the comics on the rack, and the same goes for films. What made Die Hard so popular was a combination of neat plot, and characters that had some pinache and subtext. Same with the first Lethal Weapon. There was more going on than that main plot, and I don't mean some tacked on romance either. Sure, there's crap on the comic book racks, hell they're loaded with it, but so are movies, books, paintings hell, name a medium and the majority of stuff done in that medium is crap. Know why? Becuase not all artists are competent, never mind brilliant, and that's the way it's always been. For every Mona Lisa there are millions of velvet Elvis's...and I own most of 'em..LOL So don't settle for mediocrity just becuase the medium involves brightly coloured images and border panels. The medium of comics has yet to be truly tapped, but shouldn't be considered inferior becuase few have tried. That's the artists' faut, not the medium Anyways, I'm sure you're all bored now, so feel free to move on..after all it's only talkback
Sept. 1, 2000, 5:20 a.m. CST
Is anyone else really surprised that Hollywood keeps pulling away from him? The way he says, "You gotta do this, you can't do that.", has really gotta turn any director or producer off of him immediately. He really needs someone to do his negotiating for him. Once he's on the project he can do what he wants. It's a shame too because I really liked the designs he made, I'd much prefer that over the shoulder-pads look someone posted a while ago. I admire him for his frankness, but it's not going to get him far in that end of the business.
Sept. 1, 2000, 7:15 a.m. CST
Sept. 1, 2000, 12:21 p.m. CST
Who is "Kirk" Busiek? The brother of comic book writer KURT Busiek, who wrote "Marvels" and "Astro City"? Don't tell me there's no-one on the AICN staff geek enough to catch this...
Sept. 1, 2000, 3:13 p.m. CST
Great interview, super stuff, can't wait, this 'n' that, blah blah blah, blee blee blee...what I was really wondering, after skimming through endless posts here and there, was if that super-anal fanboy from "Trekkies" (the one with the costume made before First Contact came out) and the homemade Star Trek film has ever left a post here. No offense to anyone in particular, but it seems as though he would fit in very nicely 'round these here parts. Well, jus' wonderin'. Anybody? Oh yeah, keep up the, uh, good work, Harry. Great interview. Great insight. Great.
Sept. 1, 2000, 8:03 p.m. CST
Sure, in the opening few lines he's all affable and happy but after he starts getting into the meat of the interview his tone just degrades from cheery to "Life-Keeps-Screwing-Me-Over-And-I'm-Goddamn-Sick-Of-It-Because-I'm-Talented-And-I-Damn-Well-Know-It." He seems like he's just whining about how his ideas keep getting rejected when, from the way he describes it, it sound more like it's his demands and endless negotiating that keeps screwing up opportunities for him. Not that he's exactly hurting for opportunities, considering any comic book company is just aching to have him do ANYTHING for them. Actually, the impression I'm getting from him is the same greedy, egotistical one I got from Lars Ulrich during that whole Napster thing. I get that the music was copyrighted and Napster was wrong, but does he really have to come off as a whiny bastard who only wants money? But I've digressed far too much. What I'm saying is Alex Ross seems to be acting like an egotistical jerk because he knows he's talented and, consequently, thinks his work is synonymous with perfection. I'm kind of starting to hate him...The same thing happened to me with Todd McFarlane. I loved his Spider-Man and Spawn work, but then I read an interview with him and he turned out to be the single biggest asshole whose speech I've ever had the displeasure of reading. Maybe it was just the article, but he really seemed like the worst person ever. I sure hope that doesn't happen to me with Ross because he's far too great an artist for a comic book geek and aspiring artist like me to hate.
Sept. 2, 2000, 6:59 p.m. CST
GreenBat Stan Lee is an old man, be glad he isn't retired, and he's still working on superheroes (lame and boring flash cartoons, though). 'good for a comic book movie' is used 'cuz most comics are pathetic and written badly with mediocre artwork.
Sept. 5, 2000, 1:57 a.m. CST
Sept. 5, 2000, 2:11 a.m. CST
Ya, whining aside, he makes nice pictures. He needs to take a valium during his meetings and interviews though.(maybe some lithium as well) I think he just pissed off a real happy x-men fan. Really, if you work from photographs of models, then make your paintings from visually copying these photos, why do that? Why bother calling it art? I'd just make a photo collage and forget about the realistic watercolor look alltogether. Fuck, I did what you are doing on these comics 10 years ago in my first year of art school. I was told it was gimmicky. Basically, the hard part for Ross, is creating the backgrounds. The models did most of the work for him. I bet his shits gonna look the same after 20 years. If you read this Ross, its really just a critique.
Sept. 5, 2000, 2:17 a.m. CST
I'd love to see what everyone else thinks about Alex Ross. Get someone in here from Sony. These artsy types are hard to handle. Sometimes they need to be sedated. Most should not be allowed to kill their own careers by giving huge interviews to dudes that will put whatever you say on the internet word for fucking word.