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Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some rumblings from the Lab.
I can't believe the reviews we're getting in on CHARLIE'S ANGELS. I'd be worried about shills if it weren't for the fact that I know many of the people who have gone to these screenings, and I know their general taste in films, and they all keep saying the same thing... it's fun. I haven't heard anyone call the film anything near great, but it sounds like they figured out a way -- like with the first BRADY BUNCH MOVIE -- to poke fun at themselves and let the audience in on it and just make the biggest, silliest CHARLIE'S ANGELS film humanly possible. And damn if that trailer doesn't get a huge response every single time I see it in a theater. Who knows... maybe Sony pulled off the impossible. If so, they'll be turning the tide on some of the most troubled production buzz in recent memory. Let's hear what our young friend SUR WILDCAT has to say...
Charlie's Angels
*** Out of ****
Oh where do I begin?
First off this movie is nothing but fun. From start to finish it is a
film
that is having fun with its self, and is inviting you to tag along for the
ride.
After the opening plane sequence, that you can basically see in the
trailer,
the film kicks into high gear and never lets go, maybe it slows down a
little
in the middle, but it picks its self right back up.
Lets look at the good things first.
Drew Barrymore/Dylan
The future Mrs. Green has but her heart and sold her soul to get this film
made, and it shows. The camera loves her, and she loves it in return.
Her
relationship with Tom Green's character, is sweet and at the same time
weird.
But in all truth it is only there for the laughs, as poor Mr. Green's
character thinks that she doesn't like him because of the "Chad". Miss
Barrymore is saddled with being the tough angel (although I felt Miss Diaz
and Miss Liu had better, and more meaty action scenes) And she handles it
well, and who knew that she had such ample cleavage.
Cameron Diaz/Natalie
What to say, what to say. I know!
FOR GOD SAKE WOMAN EAT A MEAL AT LEAST ONCE A FUCKING DAY
Sometimes Miss Diaz looks fucking great, other times she could give Ally
McBeal a run for her money. And it is a shame too; cause I felt her
character was the most fun to watch. She looks great (yet at the same
time I
wanted to strap her to a chair and spoon feed her, wait, is that such a
bad
idea) and can kick some ass with her MATRIX (more on that later) like
moves.
Her relationship with Luke Wilson is pointless, but does provide the fact
that she is the ditzy angel. Also, what movie can be that bad when the
first
time we see her at home, she gets out of bed, and dances in front of the
mirror, turning around, and then shakes that cute ass of hers. One word,
YUM.
Lucy Liu/Alex
I fucking love this character. Why, first off, she seems to be the one,
who
for the most part is in on the joke, yet at the same time, says, well,
lets
be serious. And she has some pretty good scenes. Action wise she rules,
and
her fight with The Thin Man was pretty tight. But please, please, why did
she
have to be dating Matt LeBlanc (I am one of the first to admit that I
liked
LOST IN SPACE, its one of those, leave your brain at the door type moves,
but
after his performance, he should never be allowed in a movie theater, let
alone on the screen as long as he lives) Also her dominatrix type scene
was
great, and a lot of fun.
Bill Murray/Bosley
Bill Murray was Bill Murray, which can be a bad thing or a good thing. In
this case it was a good thing.
The Bad
It is official. I hate, I hate, and I hate THE MATRIX.
Let me explain.
In 1997 a little film called SCREAM was released. It was smart, original,
funny, scary, and had touched on new ground that had never been touched
before. I am one of the few who liked its sequel more, but it had a bad
after affect. THE RAGE: CARRIE 2, I STILL KNOW, THE FACULTY (I still like
it) URBAN LEGEND, need I go on. They took the idea and ran with it, what
was
once a good thing, became very tired and boring.
In 1999 a little big film call THE MATRIX was released. It blew people
away,
made Hollywood drool and ruined fight sequences forever. CHARLIE'S
ANGEL'S
is full of MATRIX like fight scenes, which, I am sorry, have been done
before. X-MEN did it, that new Wesley Snips film THE ART OF WAR looks
like
it is going to do it, ROMEO MUST DIE, and now CHARLIE'S ANGEL'S. They
have
all taken an original idea, and ruined it. Now the movie's plot is not
anything new, but in all reality what films plot is. But when moves like,
oh, Cameron Diaz jumping, flying at least six feet in the air, while at
the
same time looking like she is walking the stair master, and then kicking a
guy. Well, that takes me out of the film and makes me go "Wait a minute,
I
have seen this someplace before". I don't mind repetitive plots, but to
take
something that has been done before, and make it look like you're own,
well
that fucking gets my goat.
Also, the big twist, while good, is basically useless (not a good sign).
While I will not review it here, I will say it make you go "Cheap shot"
The REALLY REALLY good stuff
Lets just say, any film that highlights Drew and Cameron's boobs, is fine
by
me : ) : )
On a final note, it moves pretty fast, the jokes mostly hit the mark, and
the
action is pretty cool for ripping off cool action, but the age group that
it
is targeting will not really get the 70's jokes (I did, and I am only
between
the ages of 16-18, bet you can't guess it)
So I bid farewell, and until next time
SurWildcat
P.S. THE CELL SUCKED. And I am ashamed to have gone and seen it.
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It's lonely here.. i liked brady bunch, if CA is half as good then I'm there.
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The interview with the angels in the new Premiere suggests there was a little Clam-Bumping going on during the shoot!
FUN FUN FUN, thats what this movie is going to give us! Yep the Angels are going to FUCK US OVER WITH FUN! I CAN'T WAIT!!!!! (and please for all those who says this is gonna suck....You will all be there opening weekend.....))))) -
Has shown up on a number of fag-boy...er...fanboy sites. Don't you guys pay attention? It's hardly an exclusive...and knowing Leonard Goldberg the way I do, I'd bet this "review" was pure spin.
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It's typical Hollywood that if someone does a new thing really well, everyone jumps on board. You shouldn't hate The Matrix just because someone else did a crappy imitation or it gets copied or parodied to death . That's like saying Spain should be bombed cuz Del Taco makes horrible food.
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I saw the trailer the other night when I saw Godzilla 2000(good movie). It looks great. If this movie is half as good as it looks it will be a huge hit. I will be there opening weekend. Good work girls.
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first off, I read this review over at Dark Horizons, and I couldn't understand the guy's prose then!
Why has the Matrix ruined fight scenes forever? To me, Hollywood fight scenes barely licked the boots of the Hong Kong stuff until the Matrix came along and gave a unique coat of Hollywood polish to HK fighting. To me, this has set a new standard to aspire to, and all the fake-ass crap that is currently being bundled into films (MI:2, purlease!) is other peoples failed attempts at trying to do a better job. The Matrix won't stay the top of the Fight Club (pun intended), but just think - the film that betters the Matrix is going to have some AWESOME action, and I can't wait to see what it will be. -
OKAY, So everyone's going to be raving about how Lucy, Cameron and Drew are doing all their own martial arts, but will Yuen-Woo-Ping get any recognition for turning these Actresses into martial artists, not a fat chance in hell. So when everyone's going to be heaping praise on these 3 actresses about how about giving some credit to Yuen, I think he surely deserves it. There's bound to be a sequel if this film is as big as I think it's going to be and of course I nominate these 3 actresses to be in it:
Cynthia Rothrock
Michelle Yeoh
Joyce Godenzi
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WHAT IN THE NAME OF ZEUS'S BUTTHOLE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? What you are saying is no one should make an original film because it will get ripped off and the rips will suck? What kind of STUPID ASS comment is that...lets think for a second...would it be better if they kept putting out "original" ideas like Lost in Space??? The artist ain't responsible for the rips so why don't you rip on Scream...you hated that one right...you hate rips but loved Faculty and Scream 2? What the hell kind of sence is that? I should have checked my brain at the door for your review! I just don't get you and those like you? Look at the Thing which was made eons (technology wise) before the Faculty and tell me that movie did anything but suck! I like "bad" movies but my idea of fun crap is Dusk till Dawn NOT the Faculty and my idea of a check your brain at the door fun movie is Galaxy Quest not crappy meaningless Lost in Space. The thought of Drew Barrymore in a harness WITHOUT a ball in her mouth doing fake karate makes me sick...the chicks are still hot and I have interest in this thing but I can't tell anything from your review...you liked Scream 2 better than 1 and you thought Lost in Space was a fun romp so how can I understand if this film is a soul less mess which the Cell was and YOU recognized or a "fun" tongue in cheek film like Scream Galaxy Quest and Dusk till Dawn? Lastly "fight scenes" are subective and the only films that will do the Hong Kong stuff will fall into two categories...films with guys like Wesley Snipes,Jet Li who know the stuff and want to do it and Xmen where you are dealing with superhumans and it is viable...the rest of the films that include it become a simple case of a studio exec saying lets make this turd shine give me some wire work...personally I LOVED the Matrix and Fist of Legend etc but there is something to be said for Lethal Weapon Busey Gibson brawl and realistic fight scenes...in a normal movie if there isn't an explanation I don't mind a REAL fight and I think a good real fight can be as cool as any wire work with guys flying around. Sometimes that stuff comes off as odd and out of place. Thats why I liked the Fight Club sequences...as long as it is done well in the context of the story but in this film it looks like they just through it in to add a reason for people to come...I am relatively undecided and YOU DIDN'T HELP ME AT ALL!!!!
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Is it possible for Drew Barrymore to have a boyfriend she DOESN'T stay friends with afterwards? It doesn't seem human.
And The Cell was good. It gave me yet another reason to be frightened of big, body-building type women. (The one that knocked out Lopez in the "victims" hall.) -
The only reason that Cameron Diaz appeared to have kicking curves in THE MASK is because she had boob padding. I heard her say it herself in an interview. That said, she's still babe-a-licious. And I will see any movie with Bill Murray in it.
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Who didn't?
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The Matrix heavily borrowed its style of fight sequences from Hong Kong action films, and Japanese anime and comics. This is briefly mentioned by producer Joel Silver in the DVD making of documentary. The HK action style seemed original to US audiences, yes...but was not really original.
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I'm quite astonished at how blatantly people are ripping off The Matrix's imagery, but clearly this is not the fault of the original movie. X-Men didn't bother me, there was about ten seconds of vaguely Matrix-esque wire-fu, but yeah, Romeo Must Die and stuff like this is annoying. But remember, in the early 80s there was a slew of movies with space battles and laser fights. A few years later there was a slew of movies about swashbuckling treasure hunters and ancient death traps. In the 60s there was a slew of spy flicks. In the mid-90s there were a slew of dinosaur movies. Slews and slews. But no one ever forgets which is the original. This kung fu, black leather, bullet dodging crap will wear out soon, it already looks like swords-and-sorcery is the next big fad. As for Bill Murray--Bill Murray is ALWAYS good. Name a Bill Murray movie in which he, at least, is not funny and entertaining. Can't do it. And Cameron Diaz's problem isn't just the skinniness, it's the heavy tan and lack of eyebrows. Boniness is unattractive enough, but combined with a heavy tan it's a killer. The same thing happened to Courtney Cox, she used to be gorgeous, in Scream 2 she looked like a leather coat hanging from a wire hanger. TANS ARE UNATTRACTIVE AND LEAD TO SKIN CANCER, ladies.
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everyone knows that the matrix took its cue from HK action which has been doing this crap for 30 years...personally I will take Enter the Dragon over any of them as Bruce was the baddest bastard to walk this earth BUT anyway we all know this stuff as it has ben argued ad nauseum. (izat spelt correct?) The Matrix was the first film to put this in a big budget American movie complete with stars and do it well..complete with heavy training for all involved and a plot that made those bs manuevers plausable. Next come the films that see a fad and will include it for no reason and worst of all not even train the people involved as Diaz bicycle kick is described as a stair master...I have seen clips and it is pathetically SLOW and wire work is not easy to begin with. Jet Li is a hundered times more experienced and a better athelete than Keanu and with an inferior crew his work in Romeo wasn't nearly as clean as the Matrix. the idea wasn't original but the execution on that film was revolutionary. Lets hope we never see Arnolds ass in a harness...
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Any film that is instantly recognisable will be ripped off or spoofed. That is the way of things.Take for instance 2001 bone tossing bit, Bond white subcar, dirty harry etc etc. This does not, repeat, does not make the original bad.
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Aug 24, 2000 1:08:12 PM CDT
Camneron Diaz needs to be put on a protein diet starting with a
by uncapie
I'd be happy to oblige.
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The action in this movie looks like the Matrix because both movies have the SAME FIGHT CHOREOGRAPHER! X-Men, Romeo Must Die and Lethal Weapon 4 looked similar because they were choreographed by Corey Yuen, who is the other top choreographer from HK and as such, will look similar. These guys have been making movies with this type of action and fighting for twenty years or more, we've just never seen it here since last year. God, comments like these are just as stupid as the ones about how the Cell ripped off their costumes from Dracula. Maybe that had something to do with Oscar winning costume designer Eiko Ishioka being the designer on both films? Anyway, I originally wasn't going to see this (It's hard to take film makers with names like McG seriously) But a couple of my friends were stuntmen on this thing and said they had a blast. First, I'll see anything Yuen Woo Ping choreographs. The guys told me the shoot was a lot of fun and went off without a hitch (they were all second unit, so I don't know how much of the rumors about on set squabbles were true) And that the girls did OK. Drew apparently wanted to do every stunt and had to be nearly pinned down by the crew to get her to let her double do anything, and Cameron, though nowhere near as fast as a real martial artist, got her stances and form very tight in the time she had. That and the unanimously positive buzz I've heard about the completed film has made me stop worrying and learn to love the Angels.
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Aug 24, 2000 1:38:00 PM CDT
You have seen it before...it's called wire stunts and they're ve
by superninja
Why does the Matrix get credit for everything with wires? Bullet-time, bullet-time. That's it. Everything else was derivative of Hong Kong cinema. The stunts in X-Men weren't Matrix-y, they were Hong Kong-y. This film looks to be a bit of mindless fun. And why does Lucy Liu seem to be having dom scenes in her work? Didn't she have on on Ally and another in Payback?
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Big Breasts and showing them equals good review!! This reviewer sucks.
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no one has, but they just did it the best it had been done in America in a big movie...as far as the choreographers go..yeah those guys are cool but the studio exec who sits around with a lousy script wondering how to sell it and says "duh let me get some matrix crap in here." is still an ass. Most American wire work I have seen has been scary including the Charlies Angels stuff...it look so uncoordinated and slow...and I know how they could have got Barrymore out of the set so the stunt double could come on, SERVE LUNCH...seriously I think she is swiping Diaz's meals. Matrix DID spark the fad in the US even though this stuff has existed for years and so when people decide to use it, it will be that film they want to mimic. And make no mistake since it made money that is the name of the film they use to "sell" their rips in hollywood...they don't say it will be just like Swordsman...HELL Warriors of Virtue had some kick ass wire work and it was here in the states and no one cared...Matrix wasn't first but it brought this crap to the forefront...more than the HK stuff like it or not.
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Bill Murry "a good thing or bad thing, depending on how you look at it"? Give me a fucking break. Bill Murray is the best part of any movie he's in. He imroves every movie he's in by 100%. What would Rushmore be without him? Were it not for him, I would remember Wild Things only for the dyke scenes.
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Just watched "Quick Change" again last night. Bill Co-directed it! Check it out if you haven't, it's a perfect and often forgotten and ignored little gem. And who else can crack you up with such deadpan delivery of lines like "Ray has gone bye-bye" and "Those stairs? They go up."? Which makes me wonder how much of a blue ball B*TCH Loosey had to be to pick a fight with him. Aw well. "This is Peter Venkman saying _______________"
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SUCKED! It brings me down to see Charlie's Angels join the Matrix bandwagon. Wire work has been better...ever seen When The Eyes Are Asleep? Its basically the movie the Wachowskis ripped off to make the matrix. Only they added the cyberpunk shit.
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Can't come up with an unpalatable Bill Murray film? Obviously you've never sat through "The Razor's Edge" - I'd stick a whole pack of Dixon Ticonderoga #2 pencils in my eye sockets rather than relive that mess. Oh, and you thought "Meatballs" with that idiotic Christopher Makepeace was FUNNY? Sheesh. I like Bill Murray, but those movies blow chunks like a Zapruder film.
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tell me... when you took this interning job, was 'lying to thousands of people' in your job description? :)
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...but then i found out Bill Murray is in it. dammit, now i have to watch it. I hope i won't be disappointed.
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Just saw Twin Dragon with Michelle Yeoh and Jet Li. If you want to see wires just check that one out.
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Did anyone ever think that maybe The Cell is just another popcorn movie, kind of like Charlie's Angels??? Next time you people see a movie you don't like take a deep breath, relax, try not to think of physical violence and remember not every movie is The fucking Godfather
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Aug 24, 2000 10:44:15 PM CDT
matrix was more than visuals it had more subtext than most award
by sundown
if they put anymore characterization or plot into it it would have become muttled. What more could people want from a film...we all know their influences but so what EVERY story you like if you visit these board was ripped off GUARANTEED its in the execution. Was it a work that will change the way people look at life for a decade NO! Was it fun as shit and a solid film hell yes. It was more than pretty pictures that script was brilliantly done with carefully planned dialog more so than most films I've seen in a LONG time. You can have all the pretty visuals in the worlkd and I will hate the crap if it sucks...see the Cell and Lost in Space...those films weren't half the film the Matrix was...they planned one sequence in that film more carefully than they did all of Godzilla. Some people like to sit around and blast anything thats good so they could say they were a fan of the original so that new hollywood crap sucked...I enjoy Hidden Fortress and Star Wars...they are both good films I don't judge Star wars as a rip and toss it away and disregaurd it...then your as bad as all the others who call all HK stuff stylized chop saki crap devoid of thought. Now to bring this thing back to the subject Angels looks like porrly planned crap but I still might check it out if some guys post good reviews that are reputable PS IF THIS IS A STUDIO PLANT the major things that scare me involve Drews uncoordinated as in a harness and both this and the last review said that that looked pretty bad...one of the earlier posts was from a guy who supposedly knew the stunt men and he gave it a better talk up than this guy...
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The reviewer says the run in air and kick sequence always reminds them of the Matrix - when I saw the Matrix I remember thinking, oh, I can't believe they ripped of Xena Princess Warrior!! You people are behind the times!!
And of course Drew hsa big breasts - don't you remember, she had a breast reduction when she was younger, whenever she puts on weight it goes straight to her chest. I thik she's fantastic - love you Drew!!!!!!!! -
That Drew was the most awkward one of the Angels, the one who didn't seem to pull it off. That would really suck for her, since she was one of the major forces at bringing this film to life. Is this a good thing? Is it a bad thing? I don't know, I have yet to see the movie, but Cameron Diaz is indeed hot. That was a juvenile moment, w/Skywalker, Anakin Indeed!
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Well, we fianlly have a good critic with an honest review. I can't wait to see Charlie's Angels - and I've heard lots of people think it's going to tank - but I'm pretty sure they can pull it off successfully (although hearing that the movie went through numerous re-writes gives it a bad pre-rep). I really hope the action scenes are fun to watch and entertaining - God forbid if we have another cheesy action flick coming out! Oh Well! Thanks critic - for giving an honest good review! And by the way GOD BLESS YOU! Finally - a reviewer who admits to LOVING the highly entertaining Scream films! I loved all of them as well - I own all 3 on DVD! Thanks again!
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Greatest subliminal Lesbian Movie of all time boys! Take the girlfriend and enjoy those threee hot-for-each-other babes (it's all there in the subtext)! By the way you can bet that the XXX-rated spoof of it will be cuming to a video store near you around time of film's opening with Charlie's Lesbos as the title of course. For Vivid Video this has been an approved by the motion picture association of america preview...
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pretty funny joke calling people on this site 'fags' to try and insult them. you must be pretty clever to come up with somehting THAT insulting... alright, i cant be bothered keeping up the sarcasm. Directed By, fuck you. bigoted prick.
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Aug 25, 2000 11:17:39 AM CDT
STUDIO PLANT. This movie is going to be one of the worst abomin
by budwhite
I work with people who worked on the film, and they confirmed that it's as bad as it looks. There's no substance whatsoever. There's a scene where Drew, with her hands bound, does a Matrix kick and KO's five guys, and she then moonwalks out of the room? What?
Did you know that in the early draft of the script, Bosley was gay? Bill Murray hated the idea and changed the character to a swinging 60's type.
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I'm hoping its a good movie and a lot of fun because I grew up watching the angeles on TV. Cross your fingers.
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I saw the preview for this movie. My God. It's going to be the worst thing ever. It so blatantly caters to the mouth-breathing, movie-going public ("wow, look at the special effects," "those fight scenes were awesome," "I can see that girls boobies") . . .and all that smarmy self-referential shit has GOT TO GO!!!! "Scream" was a decent movie, I thought it was very funny, but now they have officialy beaten the premise to death.
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I don't hate the Matrix, in fact, it's quite decent. You don't hate the original for future copies, you hate the copies, but I can't even do that right. I like the Matrix, it is Dark City, with worse acting and some more pop-culture music. Oh, and a couple of wanna-be new wave Daoims. "There is no spoon."????? What the fuck!? And that whole kinda half way halfass attempt at making you think about prophecies? I've seen shitty imitation Star Trek episodes that are better than the vase scene! Wait, maybe I do hate the Matrix. Moss is cool, Weaving is decent, Fishbourne had an ok role, but who in their right minds would give Keanu a starring role? Did the casting director just LOVE Parenthood or something?
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DONT THINK SO!...I am not implying that Charlie's Angels will be good, but I don't think it will be THAT bad...What the hell was Bruckenhimer thinking when he did 60 seconds?? with Angelina I-was-given-an-oscar-for-my-dead-on-Jack-Nicholson-impression Jolie or Nicolas maybe-I'll-do-my-puppy-dog-eyes-on-this-one-too Cage? Oh I forgot. Jerry B. isn't what you call a thinking person. Wheww...any time is good to make fun of that hour and a half car commercial...Charlie's Angels CAN'T possibly suck so much...I think nothing can. (Including Battlefield Earth...)
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Dasstickboy you made a excellent point. I was pissed off after reading this review, and you said what needed to be said. The Matrix is the standard buy which all good fight seens should try to meet.~Here's why I'm not going to see this movie. I hate Lucy Liu, she always plays the same over sexed dom type Asian girl in everything I've seen her in. It's obvious why she does this, she's horrible at acting. So she has to play to that stereotypical role to play up to the white male crowd.The type of guys that enjoy seeing Asian women act like this, are the ones that sport Mullet haircuts, drive Irocs, and think it's ok to smack your wife around "When the bitch gets out of line." She might as well just utter phrases like "Me love you long time."
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The cell was shit. He would have felt ripped off, and insulted.
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...the award for the more uneducated pretentious comment I've ever seen in a talkback. For god's sake, his posts just get more stupid every time...
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