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TERMINATOR 3 -- Furlong is back on board
On the currently rudderless TERMINATOR 3, meaning... no chef in the kitchen.... aka... I won't begin to be seriously interested in this project till a real director with serious talent signs aboard... Well, Edward Furlong has signed on to be John Connor again. I am actually a bit... disappointed by this news because it means that this will take place not to far from the future that we know in T2... If he's involved, then it kind of has to take place around the beginning of the war with the machines... Right? Of course without Linda Hamilton... is it really a TERMINATOR film? Will they be looking for a young Michael Biehn? I don't know... but seriously can any of us be excited about this film right now? Without Cameron's involvement... it feels like a Jaws sequel.... WHY? But let's see who signs on to direct... and then we'll have a vague sense of things... BTW... the Furlong involvement is reported by Michael Fleming of Variety.Com
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so any word on the story yet?oh yeah 1st!!!!
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Why oh why oh why do we have to be subjected to Arnold Schwarzenegger? Is he the punishment for society as a whole? I mean, talk about some special effects! This guy is gonna need a CEREBRO sized computer at ILM or wherever these FX get done to digitally erase all his wrinkles.
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Am I the only person looking foward to T3 and T4?
The first two were of course AMAZING, but I need more!
Two more Terminator movies will be excellent because there are currently no good sci-fi movies coming up in the next few years,
unless you count Jason 100: This time its personal!
So what if its not by James Cameron, he's not a God!
Im sure it will turn out well, and if it doesn't then I will...
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Stupidass web based cartoons, unless your spumco i dont wanna hear about it. oh and i hope this movie takes place in the far off future when shits all bein destroyed
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Who said the role had to be big? It could just be for the flash-backs of the older John Connor...
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I hope that Arnold Schwarzenneger is not going to be cast. I know he was in the first 2 but, lets have someone who can act. Arnie is an Actor who is as bad as the people who play the teletubbies. Put in Edward Norton, now that's someone who can act.
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Oh dear, I can see this turning into another 'Let's dump on Arnie talkback. I'd like to see him in something again, just to take the bad taste of End of Days out of my mouth. Still, I liked the line 'Is that Eastern Standard Time?'. The only planned laugh in the whole film, surely?
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Stop crudding up talkbalk with your dopey posts for a website. I am going to NOT go to that site out of general principal. And Terminator 3 will only propel Arnie's already dying career further into hell. He should run (not walk) to James Cameron's house and beg for True Lies 2 or else he'll be relegated to his own sitcom on NBC Tuesdays like so many other failed actors.
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Seriously, he could make this a great film. What better way to thank the director who made a great sequel to one of his own films? This could be awesome!
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Ok End of days wasn't to good, even Robbin Tunney let us down (God she was great in the craft, any news on craft 2 by the way?)
However Arnie does have the 6th Day film coming out soon, which from the trailer does look good.
I can't wait to see the Arnie VS. Arnie fight in it.
Also I hope he does do True lies 2 as the first was excellent (added bonus that it had BTVS Faith in it, will she be in the sequal anyone?)
Butting arnie and James Cameron together makes any film good!
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Aug 10, 2000 3:06:48 PM CDT
www.grand-wizard-needs-to-stop-posting-that-right-fuckin-now.com
by thanato
Seriously, that's annoying. And those webisodes aren't that great anyways. http://www.joecartoon.com is much much better
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... would be to cancel the whole damned idea. Even Terminator 2, though an entertaining film, was unnecessary. They killed Skynet in the first film, after all, and saved Sarah.
But, gosh, wait -- Skynet managed to send back a SECOND terminator right before it was shut down. WHY? Because it knew Sarah hadn't been killed? HOW? Stupid, stupid, stupid.
More stupid -- if you've got a T-1000 at your command, why would you send the Schwarzennator back at all? MOST stupid -- how the hell did Connor reprogram the T-whatever-the-fuck-model Schwarzennator, and why didn't he send it back to stop the the other Schwarzennator in the FIRST movie?
Kyle can't be the father of Sarah's kid, either, because she obviously had a kid with someone else in the original timeline, seeing how Kyle was a baby, at best, when Sarah conceived. If she didn't have the original baby with Kyle, then Kyle's kid AIN'T the John Connor who saved the world, just somebody with the same name.
Time paradoxes are stupid and give me a headache.
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Isn't that who the press reported recently as director of T3 - the man from "Alien", "Blade Runner" and "Gladiator"?
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I still dont really know what to make of this movie yet....i mean, personally, i would've just left it alone....T1 and T2 are classics already in their own right, and story-wise, how many damn times does Skynet have to get blown to hell before the fucking machines die?! BUT you know, i also personally used the same argument when the second one came out...of course, granted, i was 10 years old....but i knew enough to say "Hey, i thought she killed the terminator!"...but then, 2 hours and 15 minutes after coming out of the old Royal theater, i had the biggest Joker grin on my face....so im still reserving judgement....and, i agree with El Duderino...anyone who saw the special edition knows that if they can bring Reese back in Sarah's dream(probably the best cut scene in the film, next to the "glitching" T-1000 scene), they can bring back John Connor somehow....all i know is one thing, no arnold involvement, ok, no problem...no cameron involvement, um, sure......but if Linda Hamilton gets the axe for this flick, i will say "Screw you guys, I'm goin' home", and hug my T2 Special Edition tape for the rest of that opening night...Revolution is my name.
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In my day we didn't have Terminator Triple Sequels and we liked it just fine! We had the Depression and WW II and we liked things just fine! We didn't even have movies in color except for The Wizard of Oz and Gone With The Wind and we liked everything just fine! We were poor and miserable and stuck in hot movie houses on Saturday afternoons with stupid kids yelling and screaming and no time traveling killer robots from the future and we liked everything just fine and dandy! We was ignorant and poor and miserable and Depressed and fighting the Second World War and we couldn't have cared less about a Terminator 3 movie and we was dumb and stupid and broke and we liked everything just fine!
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Aug 10, 2000 3:45:25 PM CDT
what do you guys expect from someone called"The Grand Wizard"!!?
by rossimus
I'm surprised it's not Klan proaganda--what a fucking moron!
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I thought this was an enlightened forum with which we could discuss current entertainment issues. Someone please ban Grand Wizard.
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Consider this confirmed. Saw proof with my own eyes. Boy he sure is busy lately.
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Aug 10, 2000 4:12:38 PM CDT
Hey remember on the set of T2 when Cameron wore that hat that re
by vondoom
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Thanato
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I have no idea why he wasn't even on the long list of possible actors. He's one of the better actors in that age group. Not that I'm complaining about Tobey, who is perfect for Parker, but it's odd Edward never even was considered. He could have played both parts with equal skill.
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Ok, this ones for all the folks out there who are bashing this flick solely on the "Why would Skynet send back 3, or even 2 terminators and how could it have possibly known that the previous terminators had failed" premise. Think about it: The machine/human war has been raging for years. Skynet was kicking some ass, had the humans on the ropes, when all of the sudden this John Connor turkey pops out of the woodwork and turns the tables. Now the humans are whomping A.I. buttocks left and right until finally, they're camped right outside of Skynet's door with a truckload of explosives and an itchy detonator finger. Skynet sees that there's virtually no hope for survival, so what does it do? It does what any decent intelligent machine would do: It utilizes the resources that are at hand (namely, a newly developed time machine and the few mismatched terminator models it has managed to salvage from the approaching human army) and employs them in a manner which has the highest probability for success. That means using whatever algorithms Skynet has at its command to compute the probablity of successfully: a) killing John Connor's mother before he is born; b) killing John Connor as a child; c) killing John Connor as a young man (as the casting of Edward Furlong would seem to indicate); d) etc, etc, etc. Then all Skynet has to do is send the newest, most powerful Terminator to accomplish the least probable task (since that model would be most likely to do so), and so on and so forth down the line. So you see, it's not that Skynet was sending all these Terminators back at DIFFERENT times because it knew the previous ones had failed, it sent them all back at exactly the SAME time to accomplish different tasks. And following through with that logic, John Connor could have easily kicked back after destroying Skynet and reprogrammed 50 Arnie T-models to send back to try and stop 50 Connor-Killing terminators sent by Skynet. Make sense?
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That is all.
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Aug 10, 2000 4:57:04 PM CDT
I second that: Eddie Furlong SHOULD have been considered for Spi
by removed_user
Eddie yes! I sure hope that WB boy-queen Toby McGuire doesn't get in any "accidents" before Sam Raimi films/fucks the SpiderMan movie.
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Aug 10, 2000 4:58:46 PM CDT
the kid sucks, the beefcake sucks, and if Linda Hamilton knows w
by ragemonkey
I hated that kid the first time I saw him, and have yet to see him deliver an interesting/convincing performance. Detroit Rock City? Crappy performance. . . He was worse than Jake Lloyd as a child actor. . . OK, maybe not, but he still sucked. . . Arnold, of course, always sucks. . . blah blah blah. . .
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Is he in, or out.....? The rumors change daily. Anybody know for sure ?
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Peter Parker is a goody-goody geek boy! If there is one thing that Furlong CAN do, it is come off like a shifty-eyed liar (even when that is not the appropriate or desired effect); he'd be a completely inappropriate Spiderman.
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I thought in T2 they destroyed the technology preventing the war. If they do something where some of the original technology survived, it will show a total lack of creativity. plus, a lot of you want the futuristic man vs the machines all out war movie because the scenes of the war in the last one were so cool. however, a whole movie of that may get lame unless some new plot elements are added.
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The two Terminator movies are great and stand on their own perfectly, because of the same cast, same talent, and the same quality of storytelling, the sequel is destined to be mediocre. They should have done a second True Lies instead.
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Aug 10, 2000 6:03:42 PM CDT
As Far as I am concerned, NO ONE CAN REPLACE THE ASS KICKING LIN
by geekbasher 3.0
Arnold's cool, Edward's a slight pussy, but LINDA is what KICKED THE TERMINATORS ASS so I hope she gets on board, does anyone know why she may not be interested? Could it be that James fucked that ugly chick from Titanic, Suzy CupCakes and Linda's like get me away from anything James is affiliated with? I do hope Linda makes a Comeback cuz without her, Arnold's just washed up and tired! We need her to skin Arnold alive again!!! So Linda, if yer reading this...come back to the five and dime, Linda Hamilton, Linda Hamilton!!!!!!
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according to the script info, i heard that this new Terminator is gonna be a replica of Sarah Connor...so Linda Hamilton's got to come back...or maybe her twin sister in real life will do it. who knows...
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Aug 10, 2000 6:39:06 PM CDT
What Career? Linda Hamilton has never done anything noteworthy o
by bari umenema
You dolts! We already know from a previous talkback AICN scoop that there is going to be a female Terminatrix in this pic and it's designed to LOOK JUST LIKE SARAH CONNOR so Duh!! Obviously Linda will be back probably in a dual role!! She's trying to hold out as long as possible to GET MORE MONEY or MUCHO DINERO since Harry is still on his Habla Espanol kick from Spain. Also I was the first one to predict there would be a female terminator modeled after Sarah Connor so chalk up another point for me...
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Aug 10, 2000 6:39:32 PM CDT
"SPOILER" In T-3, Skynet is bought out by "Vorizon" thus giving
by roy_fokker
And the tagline this time is John Conner saying (whining), "You havta promise me you aint gonna kill your career". And maybe Cinamax & Showtime can let Robert Patrick off from making soft-core so he can be the T-1000 again!
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Wasn't there one Terminator hand left behind at the end of Terminator 2? I haven't watched it for a while, but I was pretty sure they destroyed the all-important chip but left a hand behind... but destroying the Terminator technology that got sent back wouldn't stop that technology from ever being developed, or it never would have been developed in the first place. No time-travel stories EVER avoid the paradoxes (except maybe Orson Scott Card's Pastwatch...)
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"I'll be -- Oh! Ouch! My back!!"
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*ignite*
This bums me out, i am a fan of the Terminator films like any other, but i had the unfortunate opportunity to meet Furlong when he shot Detroit Rock City at my high school in Toronto... the kid is a snivelling little crack head shit, he does more blow than Whitney and needs a good skull fucking,,, none of this would matter though except for the small matter of him having no talent and bringing any movie he is down in flames. He was ok when he was a kid, but his skill hasnt increased with age.
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Aug 10, 2000 7:09:06 PM CDT
Hamilton- good, Movie without Hamilton- NO CHANCE IN HELL!
by central805
Eddie F. is a damn pimp and i'm glad he found some work. American History X was his best performance yet (out of his like, 3 films) but I hope he doesn't act as gay as he did in the first one. His clothes were f*cking stupid and I hope he ends up killing that dumbass kid who played his friend (the one with the red hair that helped him rob the ATM) Get Hamilton and Eddie together and screw the rest of the cast especially schwartzenneger or however the hell you spell his name.
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I know this talkback should be about Eddie Furlong, but come on. I really enjoyed Dante's Peak. It was a neat little film that had some good effects and a cliched story, but still it was pretty cool. Oh thank god I'm not the only one who's brain is frazzled from the paradox that is the Terminator movies. Loved them to death, but shouldn't John have disappeared from the present once they stopped SKYNET apparently? I mean if there was no bad future robots, there was no robots sent to the past to kill Sarah, Reese never gets sent back and hence can never fornicate and procreate with Sarah. By the way that's what T3 needs, another hardcore sex scene like in the first film. Yes yes I know it wasn't really hardcore in a Vivid video way...
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C'mon, i know that mostly everyone is upset about T3 because the story is boring or because arnie is old and shit like that, but c'mon I know that there r some Star Wars geeks out there who were shitting there pants when they saw the teaser trailer and what the fuck happened when u saw the movie?
NO STORY- maybe when u left the theater u said to people who asked "What did u think of it" and u said the best but u know that in your fucking mind it said"what was the main story about" well i liked star wars:episode 1 but not as much as T1,T2,and the matrix, and i know the arnold is old but he can get in shape and he'll be back and when you talk about the main story well at the begining of T2 there were a lot of people working on Cyberdine and probably Dyson's workers had information about the chip or probably at the end of T2 when the terminator destroys the chip and the arm ,all skynet would have dissapeard but maybe two world opens up and shit like that i don't know but I really want to see this movie!!
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Aug 11, 2000 12:14:06 AM CDT
Why should Hollywood bother making ANY SCI-FI FILMS at all?
by emerald eyes
When its obvious that Harry and the rest of you neophyte wannabes can make them BETTER?
For fuck's sake, can't you people see beyond your PC's and iMacs? What do you think will happen when you shitheads actually start getting taken seriously by the studios and media? You think that the rest of America (and the world) are going to THANK you for making sure that NO genre films get made?
I mean, "X-MEN" KICKED BALLS! All you naysaying, no talent, got-no-life sonsabitches are eating your words now after Bryan Singer kicked your ass, but still you INSIST on trashing a film BEFORE A DEAL IS EVEN STRUCK IN THE STUDIO!!! Can't any of you punks see the writing on the wall?
Why do the Studios - and lets not forget nearly ALL movies made in the country come from Hollywood studios and that there ARE NO INDIES anymore - need to put up with this bullshit? It's easier for them to just make shitty Disney re-makes and piss-drinkin' romantic comedies because they don't have to put up with all this armchair quarterbacking.
T3 COULD BE COOL! Fuck Cameron! Fuck Linda Hamilton (and yes that way too)! You assholes are always bitching that the genre films suck because the stories are lame. Well, if the story AINT lame, then who gives a shit who gets paid $25 million to put on some fuckin' makeup and not be able to see their face anyway?
I say y'all shut the fuck up and let the Hollywood boys make their fuckin' sci-fi, action, and horror flicks.
They didn't need your help before and they sure as shit don't need your help now.
Give T3 a break. At least give 'em a CHANCE to fuck it up.
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...Would be to get both Linda Hamilton and Michael Biehn in the cast, and then to grab a quality director that can actually bring a real and unique sense of vision to this project, rather than just produce yet another Arnie action fest. Until then as far as I'm concerned it doesn't even bear consideration.
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you're not the only one who liked it........I loved it ! I thought (and still do, because I watched the tapes again last week)that is was far superior to "Volcano".
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the guys are called Monkey-Donkey and Fishslice, and they will if they get the chance
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Ok after hearing all this about how t3 sux i went back and watched the first 2 again,now first off i`m a huge arnold fan,and i loved t2 when it came out,but how can they even make t3?it would make no sense they destroyed skynet thus stopping them from creating all the bad cyborgs or androids or whatever they are,plus i don`t know if anuones seen this but i saw the t2 3d thing a universial studios and let me put it this way if t3 is gonna be anything like that stupid poorplotted 3d version then its gonna flop,
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The only thing that surprised me was that Blue Devil thought this was an "enlightened forum"...Are you new or something?!?
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Aug 11, 2000 6:56:29 AM CDT
ONE more time for all the "but there can't be a sequal" idiots..
by mizuke
Look people, it doesn't matter one tiny little ioda what the hell happened to the terminator hand or the terminator or ANY fucking thing in any of the previous two movies because they took place in the PAST. Read my previous post if you want the full story, but in a nutshell: Skynet could have sent a thousand fucking Terminators back to a thousand different points in history as a way to cover it's own ass. So even if John and Sarah Connor have managed to avoid the first two time travelling Terminators they may still have to battle 998 more before time finally catches up with them, Johnny boy destroys Skynet, and the Terminator menace is stopped once and for all. So Quit your goddamned whining about how there can't be any more sequals. There can be as many sequals as anyone wants to fucking make. Whether any of them are any good... well, that's another matter all together!
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Aug 11, 2000 7:10:32 AM CDT
'Johnny Quick' hell of a name for someone who's obviously as slo
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Aug 11, 2000 7:16:56 AM CDT
'Johnny Quick' hell of a name for someone who's obviously as slo
by no.6
When did they kill SKYNET in the first you loudmouth moron ! check your facts, they only kill the terminator, that's why, my exceptionally feeble minded friend Sarah is packing a big gun in the last scene and talking about 'a big storm coming'. You probably think that last scene was just a weather report-post death of skynet, thrown in by Cameron because he's a big fan of the news.......'Johnny quick' more like 'Johnny thick', the idea in the first one is that they were obviously going to create SKYNET on their own, but by the second some major help has been inadvertantly laid at their door......
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Isn't the internet amazing ... it makes you say things to people you'd never think of saying to their faces for fear of getting punched, knifed, or shot. What is this is a rude motherfucker, ain't he/she? (I suspect she, as I received an email, with essentially the same baseless opinions, send by someone with a female-type name, but that's unimportant, pardon my disgression). The point is THIS: we were given a VERY STRONG impression in the first film that Skynet had sent ONE AND ONLY ONE terminator back -- that one was all they had time for before the killing blow was struck to the 'net. That's why even the second film was silly, though acceptable, but why the idea of a third film is just stupid. IN THE SECOND FILM, THEY PREVENTED THE CREATION OF SKYNET, FOLKS! They changed the timeline completely, so there wasn't a Skynet, wasn't a war, and there weren't any Terminators to send back in time anyway! If they wanted to play fair, when they changed the timeline, John Connor should have disappeared, since he'd never been conceived, since there was no Terminator sent back and thus no reason for Kyle Reese to go back and thus no impregnation of Sarah Connor.
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OK I nearly managed to read all the talkback but couldn't stop myself from posting ASAP....
fuckfuckfuck. Well first of all to the person who wrote something along the lines of "I thought in T2 they destroyed the technology preventing the war. If they do something where some of the original technology survived, it will show a total lack of creativity.", well if ya think about it - at the end of T2, evil-guy rips off one of arnies arms, remember? The arm from the skynet building & chip were terminated but there was that other one... when arnie had big metal bar thru his circuits... do not forget!!! And using this as the salvaged technology isn't entirely uncreative because they (Skynet) used an arm first time round, so working with one second time round is sorta like Skynet saying "HAHA suck shit we still got what we need, can't mess with fate" typa thing, if they do it right..
And that was brilliant MIZUKE!!! I was hoping someone would come to that logical conclusion as I (vaguely) did, without all the smart words and stuff 'course...
That is all. No it isn't!! - did somebody say Eddie was great in one of his 'three' movies? For christ sake he has been in a billion!!! Many of which are quite good, some of which are luke-warm. Not to sound like a fangirl, seeing as some of you are so hardcore you discuss DVD menus...
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They are doing True Lies 2 you dickheads!!! That is why arnie will not be in T3... or if he is in it (I'm sure he's not), True Lies 2 is still coming, so....yeah.
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This is in response to Johnny Quick's comments. First of all, most of those time paradoxes you mentioned can be explained (sort of).
Time Paradox #1: How did Skynet know that the first terminator didn't succeed in killing Sarah? Because it had succeeded, John Conner wouldn't still be alive and they wouldn't be losing the war. Once they sent the first terminator back through time, everything should've changed instantly, but it didn't. So therefore, they decided to send another one.
Time Paradox #2: How can Kyle be John Conner's father? Simple. Even in the "original timeline", Kyle was his father. Yes even though they are roughly the same age. Kyle just didn't know yet that sometime in the future he would travel back in time and couple with Sarah. If Skynet knew this little detail, it probably would've been easier if they had just killed Kyle to prevent him from traveling back in time.
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Now that I have your attention...I like Jim Cameron, but to think that T3 will suck just because someone else is directing and writing it is ridiculous. Now if you told me Akiva Goldsman was writing the script and Chris Columbus was directing, then yes, I'd be disappointed too and not looking forward to it. But if they have an awesome script to work with (and the buzz I've heard of the story so far sounds enticing), and if they can get a great visual director for the job, then I'm counting this as one of my most anticipated flicks to see. What i'm really disappointed in is if James Cameron does TRUE LIES 2 as his next film. We've waited so long for him to do another flick. He turned down SPIDER-MAN, PLANET OF THE APES, and TERMINATOR 3 to do TRUE LIES 2??? Give me a break. The original wasn't all that to begin with.
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I MIGHT buy the idea of Skynet realizing that the first Terminator had failed because the environment didn't change instantly once they sent the T-101 back in time. (I still find it silly that they wouldn't send the T-1000 back to kill Sarah, though, since it probably couldn't have been stopped by Kyle Reese.) I don't buy the idea that Kyle was John's father in the original timeline, though, because someone had to mate with Sarah before anyone ever suspected there was a time machine. You can say that Kyle HAD to travel back in time, but that doesn't explain away the fact that there was a John Connor before Kyle Reese ever heard of Sarah Connor, and before they discovered the existence of the time machine. Anyway, enough of this. Obviously, neither of us is going to change his/her mind. So have a nice day.
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I agree with Kirkstad, True Lies was bad (Way bad). How can anyone wish they make a sequal, what next Last Action Hero 2. For gawd's sake, sometimes I wonder how many of you fanboys actually know a good movie when youv'e seen one. The trouble with the shit coming out of hollywood is it tries to cater for you, rather than the general movie going public.
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The only possible storylines which would not imply them pulling a Highlander 2 and pretending the previous movie(s) didn't happen would be set in the (now defunct, but who cares?) future. And the only one of THOSE in which you could have Arnold around and not be implying that Skynet is a fucking dumbass would be if the story revolves around the terminators being sent back. (First movie...didn't matter WHAT the terminator looked like. Second movie...an Arnold-looking terminator is sent back so the Connors would know what was going on. Third movie...if they just have Arnold-cyborgs running around everywhere in the future, they'd be spotted in an instant! That's the whole point of putting meat on them...infiltration. If you know what they look like, that point is moot.) If the story involves sending back the terminators, Arnold gets TWO roles (both perfect for him in that he doesn't have to talk.)
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Hey - At the end of T2, the chip, and all the technology that enabled 'the machines' to exist was destroyed by our friends at the end of the movie. So, there cannot be a T3, unless they totally negate anything that happened in that film.
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god, it has been known for quite some time that Ridley Scott is on board to direct T3, check imdb.com if you don't believe me. this is like the second time Harry has proven to be ignorant or unaware of something(the DVD compression issue rings a bell among others). come on harry get with the program.
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Why the fuck does everybody keep talking about "Reese defeating the Terminator and how if Connor had sent back the T-200 or whatever the fuck it was called Reese wouldn't have beaten that!"? Reese didn't do fuckin' shit! Sarah was the one who destroyed the Terminator remember? (think hard...) All Reese did was make those stupid fuckin' bombs that eventually killed him (Reese) anyways! Reese is a pussy if you ask me, because he knows how the Terminators work. He's fought these fuckers in the war. He knew that the piece of shit bomb he made wouldn't kill the Terminator but he knew it would kill him! Reese took the fuckin' easy way out by commiting suicide!!! He left Sarah there to die. And buy the way, whatever person above me wrote that, "Eddie Furlong has been in a billion movies and I got everything so wrong by saying 3 movies..." I mean't he only had 3 GOOD fuckin' movies! I'm not mad at the person who wrote that (I know I wasn't very clear on the issue) but in the future don't make snap judgements of people. And everyone lets try to stop fighting (although it is kinda funny...) let's just have fun and write what we want without other people getting offended. If you are easily offended, then don't visit this site, if you aren't easily offended, FUCK YOU! haha! Just playin' y'all! Everyone keep cool!!! Lates from the peacekeepa': Central805!
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DID ANYBODY READ MY OR MIZUKES POST? HELLO!! This is exhausting. First of all Johnny Quick and others, there is such a concept as a TIME LOOP!!! It is where the future and past are connected, and can't exist without each other etc, so STOP GOING ON ABOUT 'ORIGINAL TIMELINES' AND CRAP! Let me explain: scientists are considering and scince fictionists believe that en event in the future can be directly linked with one in the past, where one relies on the other, and it is just one big loop. It's not that confusing guys, one example is this book I read, a farout kinda book in which two characters accidently were stranded in the past, mated with neanderthals (not a far out concept considering circumstances, if you've read the book), and so were believed to have began the race/species (?) of cro-magnons, which is who we (and the characters) descended from. Ok? Modern day humans bred with neanderthals, started (with other neanderthals presumably adding to the gene pool) cromagnons, cromagnons bred modern day humans.If all that is two confusing then get around the fact that it is a scientific possibility, or even if it isn't, then it is a PLAUSIBLE CONCEPT!!!! KYLE IS JOHNS FATHER! GET THE FUCK OVER IT!!! There was no original timeline..... consider the chicken and egg theory, what the hell came first?
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On another note, I have always had a theory about how Arnie could be used in T3. In the first film we are told two things: 1) The first terminators used rubber skin, easy to spot. 2) The newer models had (IIRC) human tissue. The reason I point this out is because they made it a big point to say, "He's not a robot, he's a cyborg", IIRC. So I got to thinking a while back, what if Skynet and the Terminators, in their earlier attepts conceal their skeletons, just take prisoners, kill them, skin them, and wrap themselves in the flesh? Then, later, begin just mass cloning of cells and tissues in labs. Ths could easily be used to explain what could possibly be large numbers of "Arnie" terminators, as the outer design would have the characteristics of the human who had the DNA stolen. So in short, have Arnie as a human ally at first, who gets taken prisoner, and then who's DNA is used in the creation of his model of skin. Thus, giving us the modern, HERO Arn, and the earlier, VILLIAN Arn.
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Well, despite the fact that the first two terminator movies have already exhausted us with niggling paradoxes (I
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Just wondering, why is it okay to show, as previous poster said, female on male violence? I have actually seen movies where the women attack men and the women in the theater cheer and clap! Could you imagine the HORROR if the(politically incorrect)opposite happened and men cheered when a male attacked a female?! Are the women releasing pent up anger for the frustration they have against men in their life OR do men not cheer because we view it as WRONG to assault women? What does that say about women then and what does that say about men's willingness in society to hold back their anger(to their own detriment)and not inflict this on women? Admit it girls, can men ACTUALLY have some redeemable features? Oh the shock and horror! Could your assumptions about us be...ah, I dunno, WRONG!?!?!?
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Bunniebaby likened the timeline in the Terminator films to a time loop, in which Kyle Reese always was the father of John Connor. Okay, it's a plausible sf topic. Personally, though, I never cared for it, and I don't ever get the impression that Cameron was implying a time loop. After all, the Terminators (and, in the second film, the Connors) are trying to change the future. If there's a time loop, then changing the future is impossible, because what will be, will be. As for the chicken or the egg, there are two answers. The first is a joke: the chicken came first, because it had to get laid before the egg could. The second is the truth: The egg came first. What laid it? Something that wasn't quite a chicken. This is how evolution works. FYI -- If you want to continue discussing these, PLEASE do so on Talkback, not my work email. I'm busy enough as it is.
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Fair enough Johnny. I never really got the impression that that was what they were implying either, but it's a possibility explaining the whole Kyle/John thing which nobody is shutting up about, which is annoying enough, so I was aiming all that at anyone in general. And I most certainly never emailed you (or anyone), if you were aiming that at someone else or anyone in general then cool, I'm just making it clear to everybody! As for the egg, yeah ok that was an analogy (or something), I know about that whole evolution thing.... ladida. On to other things, I am so glad Eddie is on for this one, and fuck I hope it doesn't reek. Toodles!
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In "The Terminator" the adult John Connor sent Kyle Reese back through time because he knew that Kyle is his father and he will never be born if he didn't send Kyle back. If that is true then the adult John shouldn't be existing in the first place because Kyle's sperm didn't travel back in time yet. In "T2" we found out that Skynet was created by the discovery of the first Terminator's chip. If that was true then where did the first Terminator come from? Think about it.
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