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Quint's ComiCon report with new info on: LOTR; X-MEN; THE CELL; OSMOSIS JONES; BLADE 2; and others
Well, Quint finally hobbled in from the fantastic San Diego ComiCon and gave Father Geek the following report on the whole affair. He covers all the big events, plus comes up with lots of little bits of info gleaned from the floors of the dealers room and the various panels; stuff on OSMOSIS JONES, as well as PHANTASM 5, and BLADE 2, and MONKEY BONE, THE CELL, LOTR, X-MEN, and more info on whats happening in BATMAN-land. See what he heard first hand from the likes of Bryan Singer, Mark Hamill, Reggie Bannister, Paul Dini, and Wil Wheaton. Its all contained in his report below. Check it out...
Ahoy there constant readers, the forever crusty Seaman, Quint, here once
more this time with an overview of the jawdropingly huge San Diego Comic
Con. I'll be covering everything from X-Men to Osmosis Jones to Lord of the
Rings to the new Batman animated feature, plus a lot of stuff inbetween.
Let's start with the Lord of the Rings footage. Don't worry, I'm not gonna
repeat what all the other LOTR posts have said. By now you all know Sir Ian
showed up and said a word or two, you know that about 2 minutes of additions
were made to regular internet teaser and, if you've read the other posts
from the last day or two, you know just about everything that was added. I'm
just gonna throw in a couple things I didn't see reported in the previous
posts. There's a great shot in the new footage that I had heard was in the
ShoWest stuff, but still made my eyes bulge when I saw it and that was
seeing a regular sized man walk into our group of Hobbits. I don't know why
so simple a shot, considering the film we're talking about, was the most
impressive for me. In it we see Frodo, Sam and I suspect Merry and Pippen in
a pub, presumably right before they meet Stryder, and a human walks through
their group. One of the hobbits steps out of the way, the others are brushed
up against and nudged slightly. It's amazing work that's being done. I'm
glad Peter Jackson and WETA are using the effects that are at their disposal
to perfect the little details, as well as the huge shots, like the battle
scenes. They understand that the movie's potential greatness lies in the
details and that the best effect is usually one the audience doesn't
notice... at least right off the bat.
The other LOTR shot I want to mention before moving on is the continuation
of Sean Bean holding up the ring. In the footage I saw, he has a line...
something like "Why so much fear and pain over such a small thing?" I'm
pretty sure that's not exactly what he said, but that's pretty damn close. I
can't wait.
Next up is some stuff from Bryan Singer. The most interesting thing from
Bryan's panel were outtakes from X-Men he showed. Now, the "Elite Security"
made sure nobody taped anything, took any pictures or even had a tape
recorder on during the showing of this footage, so you guys are going to
have to depend on my sub-par grasp on the English language to guide you
through what I saw. I'm going to go into as much detail as I can because
Bryan seemed pretty sure that this footage wasn't going to be on any DVD or
special or anything availible to the masses.
The first scene they showed was of Hugh Jackman driving through Canada...
well, obviously on a soundstage, but you know the scene. It's almost a POV
shot from the passenger seat, so you can see Hugh and out through the
driver's side window. On cue the snowy background starts going by, giving
the illusion of movement. For a solid 20 seconds it's just Hugh sitting
there, saying nothing, pretending to drive and then out of nowhere Bryan
Singer, headphones and all, comes "flying" next to him, Superman style, seen
through the driver's side window with a goofy grin on his face. Pretty
funny.
The next one is my personal favorite. We saw an extended version of the
scene between Patrick Stewart and Hugh after Rogue absorbs his powers. You
know, the whole "Why do I feel like she almost killed me?" scene. Patrick
Stewart does his thing. "If she held on any longer, she could have." That's
where it ended in the theatrical cut. In this footage he continues, "Get
some sleep, Logan." Then he backs up his chair, being engulfed in the
shadow. The chair spins left and he goes for the door, passing the camera.
The camera pans, following, to see silouhetted against the light the door's
letting in and then all of a sudden CRASH as he rams into the door post, off
about 5 inches to the left. You could see the back end of the wheelchair
jump with the collision. Everybody went crackers in the audience. Somewhere
in the dark auditorium, as the laughter dies away, comes Bryan's voice,
"That happened more than once."
He set up the last outtake by saying, "Don't blink. Just look for something
a little out of place." The outtake is from a scene toward the end of the
film. Cyclops, Storm, Jean Grey and I think Wolverine are all in costume,
ready for battle. On action, they all run up to their mark, just in front of
camera and look worried. Then out from behind them Spider-Man runs up to his
mark behind Cyclops and leans in the direction they are all leaned in. James
Marsden looks over and starts laughing hysterically. The whole group busts a
gut and Spider-Man runs off.
Overall, Bryan was incredibly humbled by the adoration of the crowd. Just
about every question that was asked started off with "The movie rocked,
thank you sooooo much." Lots of questions about an X-Men sequel. He said
he'd just barely finished this one 3 weeks ago, that a sequel is definately
in order, but nothing is being done right now. One question asked was about
other X-Men characters being introduced in the sequel. Basically he said
what I stated above, but he did mention that one of his favorite characters
from the comics is Gambit, so I'd say Gambit's pretty much a lock for the
next film. That is, if Bryan comes back for the sequel. He wouldn't say one
way or the other, but I get the feeling he'll be back. I know he had some
hardships during shooting, but you could just see how happy he was with the
finished film and the reaction of the fans. Plus, the film is a financial
hit. If it keeps raking in the money like it has been, I have no doubt the
studio will give him carte blanche with the sequel. I heard rumor of him
wanting to do a different film before going into a sequel, but I'm not sure
how valid that is. Take 'im for ballast, Cheif.
How about those Spider-Man production stills? Kick-ass. Congrats to CA and
all for nabbing them.
I also saw the 15 minute featurette for The Cell. I must say I'm extremely
impressed. Looks freaky as all hell. The featurette seemed to me to be
basically a 15 minute version of the film. Vincent D'Onofrio again plays a
psycho, but damn if he isn't good at it. Vincent was on a panel after the
footage and talked about getting himself into character by going to
restaurants and sitting near the back of the room, facing a mirror, his back
to the people, staring at their reflections and visually stalking them for
the duration of their meal. He said he watched their movements, how they
ate, picking out their patterns and he thought about how he could go after
them and kill them. Of course, he didn't take it that far, but isn't that
creepy as all hell?!?! If I ran into him in a dark alley and saw that Full
Metal Jacket grin I think I'd shit my pants then drop dead of fright.
The movie itself is about Vincent's character who likes to kidnap women and
put them in a homemade cell, where they are fed and showered for 40 hours.
Then the showers come on in the cell, but don't turn off. He then does
whacked out stuff to their dead bodies. Anyway, he kidnaps one girl, puts
her in the cell and then somehow falls into a coma. It's up to Jennifer
Lopez's character and Vince Vaughn's character to find the girl before the
showers turn on and don't stop. Jennifer uses some cool-ass high tech
equipment that allows her to go into the killer's fucked up mind and try to
find out the location of the kidnaped girl. Pretty fucked up stuff. Looks
beautiful in a sick, surreal way.
Warner Bros. showed some behind-the-scenes stuff of Osmosis Jones, their big
animated film starring Chris Rock as, ironically, a white blood cell
detective who has to team up with an antibiotic voiced by David Hyde Pierce
to stop a lethal virus played by Laurence "Cowboy Curtis" Fishburn. That
stuff is pretty much common knowledge. There are two other cast members that
I had no clue were in the movie. Maybe I just overlooked it in Elston's
Weekly Recap or something, but William Shatner does the voice for the mayor
of the body, the guy that forces Osmosis to team up with the "outsider." The
other, and cooler in my opinion, additional cast member is Bill Murray, who
is live action. He's the body that all this crazy stuff it taking place in.
I saw a little bit of his stuff. It looked great. The director said about
25% of the film would be live action, with the rest being animation, the
stuff that takes place inside the body. The director, who also co-directed
Lion King, said the film was basically a buddy cop movie that takes place
inside a human body. Also of note is that the antibiotic character is CGI
and all the rest of the interior body is traditional animation. Looks pretty
cool. I hope they can pull it off.
Now for some TV/video stuff. Warner Bros. also showed a trailer for the
upcoming Batman Beyond feature film, done by the always dependable Paul Dini
and Bruce Timm, Return of the Joker. The trailer kicked some ass. We see
Harley Quinn, we see the new Joker and we see the old fashioned Batman!
Apparently there's a flashback to a fight between Batman and the Joker. Dini
let go that the new Joker, again voiced by Mark Hamill, would be a lot more
mean and brutal than previously seen in the animated series. He kills people
in this movie. Mark Hamill told the crowd that Paul and Bruce came to him to
return as the voice of Joker, but he couldn't just fall into his old
routine, so he created a new, more menacing voice for the new Joker. The
film should be hitting video stores in the near future. Keep your eye out
for it.
Also shown by WB were some scenes for their new animated series called The
Oblongs. From what I saw... I was surprised they would even consider doing a
cartoon this risky for air during prime-time. The series is about a family
that lives in the poor part of town, near a sewage plant. The father is a
qua
driplegic, the teenage sons are Siamese Twins connected at the hips, who
argue in the shower about whose turn it is to scrub their asses, the
seemingly normal, sweet little girl has, upon closer inspection, a weird,
pink strangely phalic growth on the top of her head and the cat has bags
under it's eyes and is always smoking a cigarette. Then there's the other
son who's always twitching and has to go to a junior high school for
psychopaths. The five or six minutes I saw where hilarious! If the series
can keep it funny after the sight gags are old hat, then this show could be
the next South Park.
Now, at the end of this long report, I have the creme de la creme, some
small tidbits, not unlike Elston's Gunshots, that I picked up during the
Con. I met Lou Ferrigno, who was totally clueless about anything going on
with the Hulk movie. I heard word that Ron Pearlman might be in Blade 2 as a
big bad-ass bloodsucker. I ended up hanging out with Wil Wheaton a lot, who,
believe it or not, turned out to be a really cool guy. A total geek. One of
us, oogle-goggle. I'll have an interview that we're in the process of
completing up in a few days. I found out that Reggie Bannister, of Phantasm
fame, is pulling for Wil to be in the next Phantasm film alongside Reg,
Angus Scrimm and Bruce Campbell. Not sure if anything will come of it,
especially since they're still having trouble getting the budget for the
last instalment to the Phantasm series, newly retitled Phantasm's End. Saw
the new McFarlane toys. Ash rocks, but the Snake Plisskin figure was sadly
unimpressive. Carpenter's The Thing toys however are amazing. Those are
absolutely going to be the coolest toys on the market when they're released.
I also saw McFarlane's Shaft figure, which looks freakishly like Sam
Jackson. The Rocky Horror figures rock. Tim Curry rules the Earth. Now if
only McFarlane would do a 12-inch Darkness figure from Legend... Lastly, the
prototype Monkey Bone figures were on display. The three coolest ones were
the roadkill guys. This is looking to be Henry Sellick's darkest film to
date. All the figures were similar in design to the Nightmare Before
Christmas townsfolk. Wonderfully demented and surreal. I can't wait.
And that should just about do it for me. If you made it this far,
congratulations. Hope I didn't babble too much in my drunken haze. I gotta
get to work on the Orca's engine. The trip to and from San Diego was hell. I
think the injectors were scorched by the salt water in the fuel. Fuckin'
shark. Anyway, until next time my little sea squirts, farewell and adieu.
-Quint
aicnquint@earthlink.net or quint@aintitcoolmail.com
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neat
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Where are you guys?????? Aaaaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jul 26, 2000 12:56:40 PM CDT
Posting one word pointles posts like "neat" just to be first is
by niiiice
But we'll let it slide this time...since you got all 3 top spots.
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Aragon is awesome (brushing up against them). I have read the triolgy twice now and I hope the movies live up to the book. Cannot wait to see how the movie is going to portray that final battle. Also, one of my favorite character from the book is taht Treebeard dude.
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Almost makes me wish I was at the comic convention myself..That would've been some funny stuff to see. Especially the Spiderman bit, that was hilarious. Good thing the place was filled with more respectful folk, rather than whiny, nit-picking naysayers when Singer was out and about. -
for some oddball reason, i've always wanted to see the galaxy rangers made into toys. hell, i'd settle for a galaxy rangers anything! but, y'all probably don't even know what i'm talking about....
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Look at www.mcfarlane.com to see all the new toys that were mentioned above. They have the Shaft, Pliskin, and Ash dolls to look at. Plus a bunch of other things that should be noticed.
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Man. That was an extremely cool report. There wasn't one thing I wasn't interested in. I hope that Mr. Singer includes those outtakes on the DVD version. Just to see Spider Man backing up the X-Men would be worth it. And the Batman Beyond thing sounds pretty cool, as well. Anyways, time to go. Congrats Quint on a job well done.
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I know posting one word like "neat" is annoying. I just didn't have anything to say about the news, and couldn't give up being first because of it. Oh, and posting just to tell smeone they are annoying for posting one word posts is about as pointless and annoying as someone saying "I'm first!". But, since you let me slide, I forgive ya'.
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Jul 26, 2000 1:41:15 PM CDT
McFarlane Toys Hard At Work On WHO'S AFRAID OF VIRGINIA WOOLF? A
by mrbeaks
Martini tumblers sold separately.
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I want Todd to make a "Best of Scorsese" line. You could have a black and white Jake LaMotta figure with a Sugar Ray Robinson and a boxing ring diorama. Or a mohawked Travis Bickle with a .44 magnum, and the guy with an exploding hand. They could have a "Casino" cornfield diorama with a bloody Nicky Santuro, his brother Dominic in a ditch, and the gangsters with their baseball bats in hand. The possibilities are endless. Oh and they should make a Chow Yun-Fat "Killer" action figure with two berettas in hand ready for a hit. That would be soooowwwwweeeeeeeeeettttt!!!!!!!
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They should have a "Casino" head in a vice diorama with eyeball popping action!
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I don't care what anyone says, but For the sequel to what I must say is the best comic 2 movie translation(aside from The Crow)the Villians have to be Apocolypse (with his crew of Mutants) and The Mutant hating humans and their Sentinels. Also I see in a opening scene perhaps a Danger Room Sequence, where Rogue is about to be smashed by a CGI Juggernaut. But in turn saved by Gambit. Think of this.
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Lou Ferrigno clueless? NAAAAHHH!!! Really? NAAAHHH!!!
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Myself and the Warrior stomping on Darth Slater and SDG!
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The Cell looks awful because of two things...it is using one of the most over-done plot devices in history ("We must go...inside his MIND!!!"...this is almost but not quite as bad as most "inside the computer" things...although Tron kicked ass), and to use that it needs to use "cool-ass high tech equipment..." the deus ex machina of modern cinema. Rarely is there any background with which the important technology to the plot could even make SENSE (at least Star Trek: DS9 did it in a world that had long been saturated not only with telepaths, but with all sorts of brain monitoring/manipulating devices). This movie will get stuck in the "science fiction" section of the video store, along with every other piece of garbage that happened to have a cliched piece of fictional technology in it, no matter whether it served a purpose in the story other than as an excuse to show a bunch of computer graphics and setpieces. Jeez...how many movies can any of you science-fiction readers name that you'd count as GOOD SF?
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I saw that post by niiice too, and was gonna comment on it, but I'd figure I'd give you the honors. As for the Apocalypse sequel idea, it would work, but we just couldn't have any more X-men after it. I guess it's because I've never seen Apocalypse get beaten. He plans foiled maybe, but an ass-whuppin he has yet to receive. I think they do plan to put him in ,but I heard rumor about him showing up in the third film. you can investigate that one on your own, but I'll stress that it's just rumor. they sure can give him an "intro" at the conclusion of the 2nd film. -
Well, we can be pretty sure that Wolvie's going to be off on his own in Canada in the next movie, right? If they can come up with a good excuse for Sabertooth to follow him, we might even get some character development (for Sabertooth, I mean) Other than that, am I the only one who hopes they use Omega Red, or Emma Frost?
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I know this would probably be way too difficult to do and do it right, but I'd really like to see Wolvie go up to Canada and run into his old buddies from Alpha Flight. Again, impossible to do well, but it would be cool. I'd love to see a big, bad ass Sasquatch on the screen! Well, until Nora Ephron directs Blade 3, Make Mine Marvel!
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Warner shoud give the new Batman Beyond animated feature theatre distribution - then again, when the hell did they know what was good for the bat-franchise. Yeah, I know it
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you forgote to mention the awsome episode 2 trailer that was being shown at the con dude, but otherwise a practicaly flawless report.
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I'm fairly sure what he's saying
is taken from near the end of
Fellowship of the Ring, when he's
trying to convince Frodo to give
him the ring and goes a little
nuts. So is the scene taken from
that part of the book, or was the
dialog moved up to an earlier
point for movie purposes? Time will tell. -
Sorry, Quint, but I have to mention something here. In your report (which was quite good) you say that you don't want to repeat what has already been reported. But if memory serves, Quickbeam over at TheOneRing.net already reported on these shots last Saturday... And you're in agreement with him, it seems, in that these are some great effects shots.
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Gimme David Lynch-line: Frank Booth with oxygenmask and piece of blue velvet. Sailor Ripley in snakeskin! Agent Cooper plus taperecorder, donut and a fresh cup of good morning America! Eraserhead!
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The figure I saw in Toyfair kicked ass! Who cares about Ash! Bring on Snake!!!
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I got to see the Warner Bros. presentation. I wasn't too impressed by some of the new shows they're working on like Static Shock. But Quint's right on the money, Osmosis Jones looks fun. The Oblongs clip was really funny and well animated, it caught everybody by surprise. But I agree with Quint, I wouldn't be surprised if they got some flack for doing a show about physically challenged people. That show will be coming out early next year, don't miss it. Return of the Joker is awesome. Another thing to look out for is the Zeta Project. It's a spin-off from the Batman Beyond T.V. show. They pitched it to the suits as Robbie the Robot meets the Fugitive. The design of the Robot, Zeta is very cool. Mark Hamill was there answering questions and told everybody to come to the Warner Bros. Studio Store at the Horton Plaza Mall where he would be signing autographs afterwards. He's a very friendly guy. As we were all crowded around him waiting for our autographed Joker statue (very cool) there was a loud woman right behind me yelling "Oh my God, it's Mark Hamill!" She told her boyfriend "Quick get his attention, make him look this way!" I was getting a little pissed because she was basically yelling in my ear. Her boyfriend was yelling also "Mark, over here!" and holding up one of those disposable cameras over my head. Mr. Hamill was talking to the person who he was signing for and didn't notice them to look up. After a while they had irritated me so much I decided to go to another part of the store and wait until they were gone. It's kinda funny now in hindsight, but it makes you think how some people treat celebrities, like caged animals at the zoo. Ciao.
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That's stupid if Singer doesn't put the outtakes on the dvd. I don't understand why he wouldn't. I hope they go all out on the dvd. make it a two disc set like The Abyss and Fight Club with a shit-load of extras on it. and they should put the theatrical version of the movie AS WELL AS a "director's cut" with the 20 min. of deleted footage put back into the movie. Like The Abyss dvd. I hate it when they put deleted scenes seperate.
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IGN/New Line was pretty canny in holding us all hostage there at the Comic-Con -- none of us could get up and leave during the 15-minute "The Cell" trailer because they were showing the LotR footage directly afterwards. But suffice it to say that after viewing "The Cell" footage I have neither the inclination or need to see the movie -- they showed every damn major plot point. Basically, you'll love it if you like second-rate David Lynch/David Fincher/Coppola in his "Dracula" phase/Neil Jordan in his "Interview With The Vampire" phase, and things heavily influenced by the more seamy graphic novels. Vince Vaughn looks terrible (has a really ugly perm), D'Onofrio is waaay too chunky for those Grand Guignol/S&M costumes, and Jennifer Lopez looks overly lacquered and terribly miscast. Really, really awful...
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As evidenced by the title, "Batman Beyond: Return Of The Joker," it's not a new Joker at all, but the same one we've seen before, just 40 years or so older. And according to Paul Dini, more bloodthirsty and dangerous. I'm guessing here, but I'd say that the Batman we saw at the end of the preview was Bruce Wayne putting the costume back on a la Dark Knight and not a flashback at all. After all, he was in shadow and you couldn't see his face.
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Saw Reg bannister at san diego comic. The plot is the tall man
is longer after small towns but
big ciites. He has divided the United States into two nations.
He has giant factories processing
millons of people into the other
diemension or alien worlds. this film is a winner both for fans
and and for corporate accountants.
It's time we let artisian,dimension,new line and any ohter film company who wants
a winner-to ante up. Reg said they
have half the moola-need only 5mil
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Jul 27, 2000 5:37:31 AM CDT
Is it me, or has nobody mentioned the awesome Grinch footage we
by pippin's diamond
Anyway... it was great. Jim Carrey is pure genius and the jokes are going to be absolutely hilarious. They showed several minutes, the part where the Grinch is trying on clothes. Well, Quint, thanks for your very cool report! I was there at most of those events, even the net panel. But the bit about the Man walking past the Hobbits in the LotR footage WAS indeed mentioned in the other talkback. Matter of fact, pseudoplotinus and I were having a discussion about it. To the guy who asked if Spidey had organic webshooters in the X-Men footage... well, obviously it was just some guy in a Spider-Man costume, it wasn't the real deal that's going into the movie. And it all happened so fast I didn't even see his wrists. The Cell literally put me to sleep. I think they also showed a trailer of Lost Souls or something like that, but I'm not sure. I was just thinking LOTR LOTR LOTR. It looked very surreal, though.
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Ok, picture this - The narrator is saying that this whole thing is happening in a world inhabited by Elves, Hobbits, Wizards, yadda yadda (and here picture quick takes of the 4 Hobbits when he says Hobbits, Legolas when he says Elves, Gandalf when he says Wizards, etc.); and then he says: "...A magical Ring, and a Fellowship of heroes (he doesn't say 'heroes', but I can't understand the word he used), destined to take an epic journey, and to fight the forces of evil." And then there's a howl. And then you see Boromir with the Ring, and he says: "And to think that..we should suffer so much doubt and fear for so small a thing." Tomorrow I'll check with my brother, but I'm pretty damn sure that's what he says.
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Use virtual GPS on the world of ME.LOTR was long partly becuase of tolkien's decriptions of geography .Why not take the guy himself as example?There are one old book that details daily where the fellowship went and how long the time.I think Fonstdt's 'Map of M-E' also details the fellowships' journey and more imporatntly the geographical features they encounter.So PJ can actaully set any one of his scenes at any one point in time and space oof the fellowship's journey.Instead the single establishing shot of Lorien and then following close up shot of the actors talking in what is obviously a Hollywood backlot ,we could have shots of the fellowship talking among the trees of Lorien,with maybe Mirkwood in the background.this is only a static shot .howabout panning shots then it would really bring out the wizardry of WETA to create maybe a sky ith the constellations for pans to the sky or the River Anduin winding in its path.for horizontal pans.care must be taken to take the time factor into mind.So the positions of the sky constellations and the goegraphical features must be calulated so that no matter where the fellowship was at their stage of their journey, the location and angle must be correct;as per Tolkien's map!.Int his way would the world of M-E would come alive three dimensionally and temporally,.....
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....a sequel to Blade is as interesting as a sequel to "Pok
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