Ozymandias reports from Dublin with some HARRY POTTER news
Father Geek here with a report on that wildly popular HARRY POTTER from ol' Ozymandias on the Emerald Isle. All I know is people who love Harry Potter love Harry Potter not some rewrite of Harry Potter, Chris had better beware changing the character...
Hey Father Geek,
My man with his ear to the ground in the UK Tommy Q has passed this one on to me today - Film Unlimited (hyperlink to http://www.filmunlimited.co.uk/News_Story/Exclusive/0,4029,341750,00.html ) seems to be suggesting that Columbus is doing a u-turn on the whole Brits Vs Americans debate over the nationality of the lad who should eventually play Harry Potter... This one will rumble and rumble on:
Following the extraordinary scenes that greeted the publication of the fourth Harry Potter book, the Goblet of Fire, this weekend, a fresh row has broken out over the casting of the trainee wizard in the movie of the first book: The Sorcerer's Stone.
British casting executive Susie Figgis has been scouring Britain for the right young actor to play JK Rowling's hero and is understood to have come up with ten possibilities. Top of her list was thought to be Durham-born Jamie Bell who makes his big-screen debut in the autumn, alongside Julie Walters in Dancer.
However, according to Annanova, director Christopher Columbus is less than impressed with the choices of actor on offer. The Home Alone and Mrs Doubtfire henchman has even consulted American casting expert Janet Hirshenson over the problem, leaving Figgis exasperated
It is thought that the main area of contention is that Columbus now wants to place an American boy in the part of Potter, despite his claims in March this year that: "It's essential to find a British boy to play Harry."
JK Rowling has specifically said that she wants a British child to play the role, and this row echoes earlier problems in the film's production when Steven Spielberg, who was originally lined up to direct the film, walked away from the project after disputes over the casting of Harry.
According to an insider: "Where does Columbus go from here? Back to America to probably cast the boy he had in mind in the first place. The whole business has become totally political... Since Renee Zellweger got the Bridget Jones part in Bridget Jones's Diary, the feeling is that Americans are much more acceptable than they used to be in very British style roles."
Top British actors such as Dame Maggie Smith, Amanda Burton and Robbie Coltrane are rumoured to be interested in supporting roles in the movie which is due to go into production in the autumn in the UK.
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July 12, 2000, 12:58 a.m. CST
by Al Mariachi
Who cares if the boy is British, American or whatever, as long as he can play the damn role. That's why they're called ACTORS. Why not look for a british boy whose real name is Harry Potter in order not to make it too hard for him. Geez...
July 12, 2000, 1:05 a.m. CST
Just find an American kid who can speak in a haughty British accent and be done with it. They have English actors coming over here speaking in an American accent (Claire Forlani), so why not the other way? I mean, is it so important so as to lose Spielberg over it?
July 12, 2000, 1:35 a.m. CST
If anyone has anybody has any information on where or how the will be casting for this role I would like to hear it.. I think my younger brother would be perfect.. And to take up more space-I can't believe I'm third. I'm out...
July 12, 2000, 1:57 a.m. CST
by Original Evil
Its just a pity that American actors just don't have any. How dare anyone even consider an American for this role. Harry is British (subtle) not American (overt). Your average american actor has to spell everything out, nothing is left to the imagination. No wonder European films are so much better.
July 12, 2000, 2:05 a.m. CST
by Toby O Notoby
Want to piss this guy off? Don't respond to his post, he's a troll - fuck him. As for Harry The Movie, you're guaranteed one of the biggest openings in movie history even if you show a blank screen for three hours. Get the right actor, that's all that matters.
July 12, 2000, 2:13 a.m. CST
In my opinion, Columbus is looking to launch another MacCaulay Culkin to make some Big Bucks here in the U.S., and sees Harry Potter as a solid-gold way to launch him. Obviously, some British kid would be no good for Home Alone Ad Nauseum. I can see no other plausible explanation--I find it extremely hard to believe that there is no acceptable child actor in the whole of the British Isles (the casting director who quit claimed to have brought forward "thousands" of boys). Political is the word, all right. Why is this important? It is very hard for an actor, particularly a child, to pull off an authentic accent. Since I am American, I can catch this problem only when some low-end British actor is trying to sound "American." Most of them do it by trying to sound vaguely Texan. It sounds very bad. Obviously, the same must be true of some American kid trying to pull off a British accent--it would sound very sour to people in England. Anyone remember Dick Van Dyke in "Mary Poppins?" And he was really trying his damndest! Granted there are professionals who can pull this off. Most are experienced, adult actors. The first movie I remember seeing Bob Hoskins in was "Roger Rabbit." Later, I was thunderstruck to hear his natural British voice. Mel Gibson has done a damn good job of squashing his Aussie accent, but it still leaks out once in a while. I think Columbus is really asking for it if he doesn't go with the original plan. I know I'm going to be pissed if he casts an American. The Harry Potter franchise is a delicate one. I have heard kids who don't think it ought to be made into a movie at all! Columbus can always find the New MacCaulay on his own time.
July 12, 2000, 3:16 a.m. CST
by Meat Takeshi
According to www.empireonline.co.uk Susan Figgis left the production on or about the 7th of July. Quote on their site from the Daily Mail "I feel I have done my absolute best to find a child and during our search we've met some great kids. Ultimately, it's the director's point of view and vision".
July 12, 2000, 3:18 a.m. CST
I say, pick a overweight, middle age french chick to play the part. Everybody hates them and vice-versa, so it would work astoundingly well as a compromise. Just piss everybody off and call it a day, because in the end, who the heck cares? Really?
July 12, 2000, 3:30 a.m. CST
Christ almighty, you Americans....First, the title is changed from Philosopher's Stone to Sorceror's Stone because...er....'Philosopher' might be confusing to your average American kid...now the fucking Yanks want Harry to be American. Must you fuck EVERYTHING up? I'm Irish and rooting for the British isn't my usual bent, but I love the books and anyone with ANY fucking sense could see that casting an American in the title role would change the tone on a fundamental level. Things Columbus and his cronies should avoid doing? CHANGING ANYTHING ABOUT THE FUCKING BOOK. Period. I can see Hollywood fucking this one up. HARRY IS BRITISH! CAST A BRITISH KID!! JESUS!!
July 12, 2000, 4:11 a.m. CST
by Toby O Notoby
Look, if they were moving the whole thing to LA and making him a plucky tow-headed farm boy, you'd have a complaint. They're looking for an actor, any actor, to play a British kid. What's the big deal? It happens all the time - Kiwis play Spanish gladiators, Brits play American WASPs. They doing what any movie should do, trying to get the best actor for the part. They started in England and, for reasons unbeknownst to us, couldn't find anyone so they're widening the search. Happened once on a movie called Gone With The Wind, as I recall...
July 12, 2000, 4:30 a.m. CST
Probably came on a little 'strong'...don't get me wrong - I'm not anti-Yank, I'm just anti-ANY YANKS IN HARRY POTTER! Yes, a Kiwi played a Spanish Gladiator mate..but nobody had ever heard of Maximus before! It was a blank canvas! Harry Potter has sold over 30 Million copies in 3 years! He is an established character and must be played by a British actor! The fact is, and you HAVE to admit this...Americans cannot do accents (bar a FEW exceptions) - your accent is just too strong. Are you honestly telling me there isn't one actor in the entire country of England who isn't suitable?? I read an article at Popcron that claims Warner Brothers want 'a more American Flavour' in the films. THERE IS NOTHING AMERICAN ABOUT THE BOOKS! NOTHING! The are the best-selling books in history. In HISTORY. And Hollywood wants to change them. Its fucking laughable mate. Laughable. And TYPICAL of the American 'We are the centre of the known world' Hollywood mentality. As I said in my previous post, I'm Irish - so this isn't a 'patriotic' thing. I just love the books and am intelligent enough to realise that casting ANY Americans in the books would be incredibly stupid and ill-judged. Christ Alimighty, Rowling HERSELF is screaming from the rooftops that Harry has to British. Are they going to IGNORE her? The author who has crafted these books? Its common sense. Do you think the millions of American kids who are loving these books with all their hearts are thinking 'Man, it would be soooo much better if Harry was American?' Bollox. There is a glut of acting talent in Britain. For Columbus to be (apparently) refusing to call any British kids back for second auditions is just fucking jingoistic Yank crap. And of course, you won every battle in both World Wars. Every one. Can you in any way see beyond your nationality and see my point?
July 12, 2000, 5:06 a.m. CST
by s. guttenberg II
British kid, incredible personality. Perfect. He is young but then to de-age Harry by a couple of years is no great hassle, besides, if the film is to be a franchise the younger Harry is to begin with, the better, as by the third book you'd be looking to change the actor (kids age very quickly remember!). Anyway, I say SCOTT CHISHOLM is HARRY POTTER. If they cast Harry as an American boy and use excuses like "it'll make him be even more of an outsider - it'll be great!" then I will refuse to watch it! Just for once Hollywood, expand your imagination just a tiny bit and imagine that American kids will identify with a British kid in the lead role. You've insulted us with films like U-571 & Saving Private Ryan by trying to show kids that the American's won the 2nd world war and that the Brits all stayed in their bomb shelters so for once, leave it alone and cast a Brit... SCOTT CHISHOLM SCOTT CHISHOLM SCOTT CHISHOLM SCOTT CHISHOLM SCOTT CHISHOLM SCOTT CHISHOLM SCOTT CHISHOLM SCOTT CHISHOLM SCOTT CHISHOLM SCOTT CHISHOLM SCOTT CHISHOLM SCOTT CHISHOLM SCOTT CHISHOLM SCOTT CHISHOLM SCOTT CHISHOLM SCOTT CHISHOLM
July 12, 2000, 5:06 a.m. CST
by Toby O Notoby
Americans can't do accents? Renee Zelleweger fooled a British PR company for an entire month undercover. If they find a kid who can do the same, why not use him? As for claims of making it 'more American' I totally agree, it's a dumb fucking idea. Look, you're in a unique position of having a movie that's guaranteed - GUARANTEED - to open at number one and stay there for weeks. There's no reason to change anything. I said so in the my first post to you. They cast a British actress as Scarlett O'Hare - arguablly the most American female role of the last century - without making the movie any more British. There's no reason they can't cast someone who isn't from the UK and lose its unique Englishness. Is there an English actor that is suitable? Definitely. Should we be aiming above 'suitable'? Definitely. As for seeing beyond my nationality, you're the one who brought up some BS about WWII. Can you see beyond your knee-reaction and admit that they should cast the best actor for the part, be he American, British, or for all I fucking care, white Jamacian? (Ps. If it helps in an olive branch kinda way, I'm living with an Irish girl.)
July 12, 2000, 5:27 a.m. CST
No it doesn't help, you Yank asshole!! Heh heh. Kidding. Sorry Toby, I am desperatley trying to keep from hopping on a plane flying over to ring Columbus' neck (For Stepmom, if nothing else)...I see your point, but I still think you're missing mine. The idea that there isn't ONE excellent British choice for Harry is absurd - the point I was trying to make is that Columbus doesn't WANT a British boy. He WANTS Harry to be played by an American, and THAT is what I'm annoyed about. It is fucking ludicrous mate. The world is run by incredibly stupid people. And Hollywood is the fucking moron capital of the world. When I said American's can't do accents, I did say a FEW could - Paltrow's English accent is superb, Streep could be from anywhere, and yes, apparently Zelleweger's is top notch. But THINK about the amount of fucking WOEFUL attempts, as against the good ones. I'd say 90 - 10 in favour of the awful ones. Anyway, fuck it - there's nothing I can do about it, so its pretty pointless to be pissing and moaning to you! - but mark my words, if an American is cast as Harry, there will be fucking UPROAR. From all over the world. Warner Brothers know this. But they're going to do it anyway. Thats what I mean by stupid.
July 12, 2000, 7:20 a.m. CST
by s. guttenberg II
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July 12, 2000, 7:36 a.m. CST
Sorry guys, but the kid MUST be British - no two-ways about it. I maintain that Scott Chisholm would be too young (good, though he is). J.K Rowling has stuck to her principles all along in wanting a British boy for the part - SHE wrote the books NOT Chris Columbus!! If Columbus walks out on the project over this - GOOD!! a lot of fans will breathe a sigh of relief - perhaps WB should replace Columbus with a British director.....for example...I dunno......Ridley Scott?
July 12, 2000, 7:43 a.m. CST
SO disagree with Total evil person. Having met with a lot of the kids doing the casting rounds in the U.K., I can tell you that overt aint just an American habit. If WB can find a natural kind with the wit and sympathy that Harry needs ANYWHERE then they should say hell to it and cast them! Remember, there are voice coaches...
July 12, 2000, 7:47 a.m. CST
And I was so relieved when 'he who must not be named' (namely S.Spielberg) decided not to direct the movie - Harry (P, not K) was spared being served up with Stevie's usual tons of gooey, manipulative shmaltz, accompanied by a typical button-pushing John Williams score ('Now you will feel AWE! Now you will feel HUMOR! Now you will feel POIGNANT!...')- whew! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ But now it looks like C.Columbus is going down the same road. He probably wants to cast some name-recognizable sit-com kid star, as if a film based on a Harry Potter book, at this point in time (I waited on a midnight line for TWO HOURS to pick up my copy of the new book Fri night) NEEDS a lure to bring an audience in. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My free advice (all the studio execs are lined up outside my door with bags of money, so you're getting a break here, Chris): pick the best actor you can find, even if unknown, & preferably a British kid so he won't have to WASTE ANY TIME TRYING TO LEARN THE ACCENT!!! God, I hope they don't ruin this one...
July 12, 2000, 7:54 a.m. CST
Left this out of my just-posted 'Righty-o guv'nor' comments: One of the great things about Nick Park's "Chicken Run" is that it's the real deal accent-wise. They didn't try to turn it into some generic (i.e., North American) poultry farm, or get a bunch of Hollywood voice actors (with all due respect to that wonderful bunch of throats) pull their brit accents out of their sock drawers. "C.R." was placed firmly on British ground by British filmmakers, which gave it a 'realness' that was no small boost in making its fantasy world seem real -- and it certainly doesn't seem to have hurt the film at the box office ONE LITTLE BIT. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ In hindsight, the solution probably would've been for JK Rowling to sell the film rights to a British studio, & then let those guys get a ton of $$$ from Hollywood in exchange for US distribution to have the budget to do the picture right.
July 12, 2000, 7:59 a.m. CST
First of all, to our esteemed European friends so bent out of shape about this: please try to avoid the America-bashing. Just because Hollywood is full of dumbasses doesn't mean we all think "America is the center of the known universe and we're better than everyone else". I certainly don't want to be lumped in with anyone in Hollywood. I haven't read the books (yet), but I have to tell you, I think it's bullshit for Chris Columbus to refuse casting a British boy in the title role. Doing so is a horrible mistake for all the reasons so many others have made throughout this talkback. If you want to call Columbus a stupid fuck, that's all to the good, but try to remember we're not all like that!
July 12, 2000, 8 a.m. CST
How did Columbus get the gig in the first place - all his films are ladled with a horrible sugary, sickly sweet Hollywood tack. There have been some excellent kids films in recent years that haven't gone the cheesy Home Alone/Mrs Doubtfire route: Little Princess, Babe, Fly Away Home are all fine examples of intelligent kid's flicks regardless of nationality. I mean it would be great to really go to town and be experimental with the material - I'd love to see what Terry Gilliam would do with HP, but obviously that just ain't an option with the amount of money at stake. Splinter is right when he says that Columbus doesn't even want a British actor for the part - it wouldn't suit his directing style. So I propose: forget the casting issues, fire Columbus - I guarantee that the film will stink with him at the helm.
July 12, 2000, 8:52 a.m. CST
This is the first story that i saw Amanda Burton's name attached to. is it possible that she is being considered for Prof. McGonagall and Maggie Smith would play one of the other older teachers? Or is Amanda Burton tapped to play his aunt?
July 12, 2000, 9:20 a.m. CST
by Mean Ween
i'm glad spielberg walked away. a director directs. the director should have final say. pay rl stien or dh lipshits or whatever the fuck her abbreviated name is and let her walk to the bank. does it really fucking matter where the actor was born? if the kid can act, whoever the kid is, does it matter? if it does, then drop it, let a brit production co fund it with a brit director and all brit actors and gk chesterton or dh lawrence or tk hoffnagle sit over the director's shoulder and whisper directions in his ear. i'll catch it on pbs. cheerio
July 12, 2000, 9:26 a.m. CST
We spell it "center." :-) (P.S. An advance flame to anyone who uses this post as a jumping-off point for renewing pointless and stupid cross-pond hostilities: ya mudda wears army boots!)
July 12, 2000, 9:55 a.m. CST
You only get one chance to make a casting choice of this magnitude. I feel, as do the majority of fans I belive, that only a British actor can do justice to the part. No matter how good a child actor may be with accents (some DO have a knack with them) there would be cultural nuances that would be missing. You pay a Casting Director for a reason, listen to her.
July 12, 2000, 10:35 a.m. CST
of those 30 million books sold, how many were purchased by americans??? umm 28 million. This story is a fantasy and could have taken place in wisconson or south africa or anywhere. While reading it, I didn't have Harry and friends speaking with a silly british accent, so I could care less if in the movie he does. Get off your high british fox-hunting horses and realize that without america, your beloved Harry Potter would not be a movie. And by the way, I am really pissed that in Chicken Run, the "American" rooster was played by an aussie. boo hoo hoo.
July 12, 2000, 10:36 a.m. CST
by Mockingbird Girl
First of all, why don't we give the hostile nationalistic fervor a rest? Hollywood producers have always been a bunch of money-fixated idiots who care more about opening-weekend grosses than producing quality material... but they do not represent all Americans, just as football hooligans do not represent all Brits. Similarly, the "Americanization" of the Harry Potter books in their U.S. release was not something that consumers got a vote on, and we could surely have done without it. Finally, as regards casting the film, I think I would be happiest if they scrapped the whole venture. Readers have been quite happy using their imaginations to set the scene, and I see no reason, apart from old-fashioned greed, for Hollywood to step in and "interpret" the books for us.
July 12, 2000, 11:48 a.m. CST
by Dr. Channard
Is the British film industry in such bad shape they can't bring themselves to do this thing? If the author sold the rights to Hollywood, any finger-pointing after this stink-bomb gets released should be directed at *her*. Yeah, I'd expect this to be a cross between "Home Alone" and "ET", i.e., violently cute, and what the hell else is new? When do the friggin' action figures come out, anyway?
July 12, 2000, 12:19 p.m. CST
by Syd Mead
Heeeeeeeeeey Baby !!! He'll put the "Ho" in Hogwarts. But don't be lookin' at his bum....ya bum looker. That's enough gov'ner... and see ya later Mr. Columbus, quit now while your still a working director. --Syd.
July 12, 2000, 12:26 p.m. CST
I think Harry Potter has to be a British boy simply so the accent isn
July 12, 2000, 12:46 p.m. CST
by Everett Robert
and I'm not but if I was...I would make Harry British, but I would make MAYBE the Weaslys American...or maybe Harmony....becasue of the books popularity around the world we need a diverse cast, maybe Rowling wrote it with distinctly british people in mind but it has expanded beyond britan and the movie needs to reflect that...it needs to show that Hogwarts is a world wide school with children from all areas in it. Hell there's like only one black kid in the Potter books, what's that mean huh?
July 12, 2000, 12:55 p.m. CST
Harry has to be played by a Brit, damn it! I don't like the idea of the book beeing turned into a movie in the first place (Its much cooler in my head then it could ever be on the screen). Argh. Stupid America. Canada would never pull shit like this.
July 12, 2000, 12:58 p.m. CST
Please, they need to animate this movie! I honestly don't think that any location on earth could truthfully represent Hogwarts as it is described in the book. If this is a franchise, your going to have to churn out a movie each year to keep up with the aging of the actor, losing time to do all the special effects the film truly deserves. This could be the WB animated movie that works! I donno- mabey I just like cartoons
July 12, 2000, 1:05 p.m. CST
There is honestly no way that the Harry Potter books could translated into a live-action movie. If this is going to be a franchise, they would have to churn out a movie each year,to keep up with the aging of the kid actor,leaving no time for the special effects that would truely be needed for the film. Too bad WB has it out for animation, this would be one that could've accually worked.
July 12, 2000, 1:07 p.m. CST
by Mean Ween
no one will give a shit. Why? because it will STILL MAKE MONEY!!! That's the bottom line.
July 12, 2000, 1:19 p.m. CST
To the guy who mentioned Rosie O'Donnell earlier -- I actually read somewhere (and GOD I hope this is just a BS Internet rumor) that she's been mentioned to play Mrs. Weasley. I will now pause so that you can scream in agony: ......................................... Okay, that should be long enough. Don't wanna futz up the page or anything... Besides not looking the part and not being old enough, NO amount of hair dye and makeup will give her the ability to act worth a crap. As for the kid -- frankly, I couldn't care less where the actor playing Harry is FROM as long as he can do a passable British accent. And for Heaven's sake -- isn't there some way we can break into Columbus' house and brainwash him into not making this (or any other movie)? EVER? I just keep having this horrible nightmare where Harry is running around like a moron bashing Professor Snape in the face with a paint can...
July 12, 2000, 1:30 p.m. CST
...and Christian Bale could've played Harry. Although -- come to think of it, that's probably why Spielberg bailed -- the last time he worked with a gifted English boy, his film (Empire of the Sun) was a hideous failure. At any rate, of course Columbus and Co. are going to screw up Harry -- this has been the trajectory ever since Bloomsbury changed the name from "HP & the Philosopher's Stone" to "Sorcerer's Stone" for Americans who are too stupid to know what a philosopher's stone is. This means that all the wonderful Britishisms are going to be excised from the story as well (by the way, anyone who doesn't hear Harry's North London accent when reading the books is a complete moron) -- I guess Harry will be a Laker fan and Quidditch will end up being like hockey played on broomsticks. A shame. BTW, I'm American, and I think all this stinks.
July 12, 2000, 1:43 p.m. CST
Harry Potter is completely British. Anyone who argues otherwise should be subjected to the cries of a Mandrake. READ THE BOOK, for fuck's sake. Not only is the humor purely British, but the way people interact with each other is as well. I can't express how distraught I am over this latest turn of events. The best thing to do would be to organize a letter writing campaign to Warner Bros. INSISTING that the actor playing Harry be from the UK!!! They want a succesful movie? They should make it a successfully faithful adaptation. To do otherwise is not only an insult to the author and the book itself, but to the legions of fans who have a right to watch Harry as he was meant to be portrayed, by a British boy! Yes, take it away from Columbus if that will give us a British Harry. If he thinks he should be American, he has no right directing this film. And finally, to all the Americans who are fighting with the people from the U.K. - Get Over It! We are not the center of the world and never will be with that kind of attitude. If you are a true fan of this book you'll insist on it being an all-British cast. Maybe you're all just jealous because the U.K. fans got their hands on the new book 5 hours before we did.
July 12, 2000, 2:17 p.m. CST
by James Law
Go fix me a sandwich. Love, James here in the U.S. (That wasn't blatant, unnecessary, nationalistic sentiment, was it?) REALLY??? My bad.
July 12, 2000, 2:26 p.m. CST
Though I like the Harry Potter book, I think a greater series of books has been overlooked. It is call "A Series Of Unfortunate Events," by Lemony Snicket. The artwork, layout, cost, and the stories themselves definately make them an incredible package. I wish i could find people who've read them.
July 12, 2000, 2:35 p.m. CST
If you want to be at each other's throats see the talkback for "The Patriot", some of it has to be seen to be believed for its idiotic viciousness. I'm neutral in this debate (Canadian) but HP really is 100% British in every respect, New World accents would just sound wrong in this context. If you find a non-British kid who can pass as British then fine, cast him. Just remember Anakin Skywalker that's all I'm saying. I'm not trying to wind Americans up but I mean come on, why must everything be Americanised? It seems that Hollywood wants to claim everything good in the world for the US.
July 12, 2000, 2:43 p.m. CST
July 12, 2000, 2:46 p.m. CST
errr sorry. Now that I have fouled up a post, it is going to be pretty hard to convince people of american superiority. Oh well. I agree with the posts that have Harry Potter be animated. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Of course I still don't care if Harry speaks british. By the way, what was wrong with Dick VanDykes british accent.
July 12, 2000, 7:41 p.m. CST
As a proud American who has fallen under the spell of the Harry Potter books, let me cast an emphatic vote for an all-British cast. There is simply no reason whatsoever to have a single Yank actor in this production. As much as I love my country and countrymen, the entire Harry Potter world from Privet Street to Hogwarts is British to the core - enjoyably so, I might add! I take issue with fellow posters who insist that HP is no longer overtly English, but some some sort of generic "everyman." If anyone seriously believes that, they must not be reading the books very closely. Also, fellow geeks, is there anyone out there who knows why Ms. Rowling sold out to the studios? Seriously, we now live in an age where no one should be a naif when it comes to selling a literary property to the movies. Everybody gets sodomized when they deal with the devil and, apparently, the beloved Ms. Rowling is no exception to that rule. Man, Chris Columbus and the studios are going to utterly destroy a wonderful series if they stay the course on this one! One last thing for our UK brothers and sisters across the pond: do you have any idea how grateful we are to you for your courage during the Second World War? I just wanted to add a humble thanks to your fathers, grandfathers, and great-grandfathers who, as younger men, held the line against Nazi aggression in '39 and '40 while the rest of the world slept. You folks are great. I'm grateful for you!
July 12, 2000, 8:04 p.m. CST
by Tommy Pickles
I think JK is just afraid of HP becoming "Head of the Class" with wizards, and with Chris Colombus directing, I would be too. By the way, Paul Terry was the kid in James and the Giant Peach.
July 12, 2000, 11:01 p.m. CST
by Jonathan Harker
If some of you Americans feel that it would be no big deal for an American child to play Harry Potter, I'd love to see your reaction if some British director fucked up some of your well loved characters. Wouldn't it be interesting to see the reaction if they made another version of "Tom Sawyer" and cast a young actor from, let's say...Iraq? I bet you wouldn't like that, would you? Or what if they made a film about Abraham Lincoln and cast an hispanic actor? I'd love to see the reaction to that one. So, I guess the message is that though there may be many fine young American actors, just as there are fine hispanic actors, sometimes to be true to the source, you must cast accordingly. In this case, the message is clear. Keep Harry Potter British--both the actor and the setting. And whatever you do, don't cast Rosie O'Donnell at all. That would be inhuman.
July 13, 2000, 12:06 a.m. CST
The problem with this whole business seems to be 'if Colombus wants to do this does this mean he is willing and wanting to fuck with the books?'. Or is this simply a case of no joy in the UK, let's look further afield? Does it mean that he wants an American kid accent intact? Or any old kid as long as they are good and can do a fine Brit accent? We don't really know. However it strikes me as odd that the man who cast that horrible Macauley Culkin should give himself any credit for recognising what makes a good child actor. Eh?
July 13, 2000, 3:15 a.m. CST
I think this debate is so fucking pointless it's not even funny. You know something? Off the mark, remember those rumors that of all people JUDE LAW was rumored to play Spider-Man? How about Ewan McGregor. Yeah, that's what I thought. In fact, his name's been tossed around for a while. Nothing personally against him, it's just that Spider-Man's an American pop culture icon. He's internationally known and revered, but he's American. I don't care how good an actor Jude Law really is, the fact that Hollywood wanted him to play a 17 year old kid while he's pushing 30 is very frustrating. This Harry Potter debate gets me heated. Just to clear things up, an American for Spider-Man. I just wanted to get one thing straight with all those talk backers who were actually estactic about the possibility of Law donning the tights when that rumor hit this site. All of yous were wrong. He's a very good actor, but be it he is British. Spider-Man's an American. Harry Potter is British. Two way street here.
July 13, 2000, 10 a.m. CST
by Buzz Maverik
J.K. would have been much better off with Spielberg. Does anybody think that if it would have been Columbus directing E.T. back in the early 80s, he would have hired Henry Thomas, Robert McNaughton or even Drew Barrymore?Way too much like real kids. He goes in for the Jane Withers, Mickey Rooney type of child actor, very 30s, very Hollywood, very awful.
July 13, 2000, 11:32 a.m. CST
I can see it "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone - a one-way trip to wackiness directed by Chris Columbus, director of Mrs. Doubtfire and Home Alone." I'm having my doubts as to whether this one will be worth it. I love the books, but I don't think that Columbus will do the story justice. My choice of director would have to be the great... Terry Gilliam Think about it. Gilliam's eye for odd detail and love of unusual sets would be perfect for Hogwart's. Plus, he'd really be really good at getting the whole undercurrent of darkness that creeps just below the surface of the books. -Spooky
July 13, 2000, 1:42 p.m. CST
Listen to one of the books on tape (actually, check them out anyway, they're really cool). The one character I can picture as american: Gilderoy Lockhart (picture Greg Kinnear in Mystery Men).
July 13, 2000, 5:02 p.m. CST
While I would hate to have some American kid doing a terrible British accent (or not even bothering to use one), I dont care too much bout who plays Harry as long as they can act. MY main concern is that they are gonna totally fuck up the story!!! I thought the movie "Matilda" was a travesty...I mean, they didnt even make it TAKE PLACE in England!! As long as Rowling doesnt mind, i dont see why we should...but thats just my opinion, i could be wrong.
July 14, 2000, 1:12 a.m. CST
NO!!! I have never read a Harry Potter book(gasps from the assembled fanboys!!!). Dammit why would I want to !?! I watched M*A*S*H for ELEVEN years!!! Why do I need to read his memoirs?!? The TalkDroid has(sort of?)communicated.
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