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Hey folks, Harry here.... Sparky here had some time to sit down and talk with the head dwarf in the DUNGEONS & DRAGONS film, and also saw and hung out to see the panels about the film that took place at DRAGONCON.... all in all, he found that he was in a perfect position, and with his newly charged electric cells (thank god for jumper cables) he managed to be alert the whole time. Here ya go... enjoy...
Hey Harry...
Sparky here, and after hearing a few of the reports sent in from the
country's biggest Sci-Fi/Fantasy Con, I had to put my two cents in
concerning the Dungeons and Dragons movie. I was pretty close to the front
for the extra large session (which was originally billed as a screening,
BTW, but turned out to be just a preview) so I got a better listen than most
that have written in. Corey Soloman is directing this film, and this guy
has some brass cahones. He walked in to TSR Headquarters when he was 19 and
asked to purchase the worldwide exclusive film rights to the Dungeons and
Dragons franchise. He said that they laughed at him. But, after
perseverance and meeting the right backers, they sold him the rights and
this has been his baby for 10 years now. Lee Arenberg was on the panel as
well. He plays Elwood the dwarf in the movie, and amazingly, he's about 5'
8" or so. I bumped into him in the Dealer's room on Sunday and he hung
around and just shot the shit with me for about 15 minutes or so. He said
that he spent most of the movie squatting down, but with the extensive
dwarven costuming, you really couldn't tell. Justin Whalin, star of the
film, plays a thief named Ridley. He explained during the panel that the
world that this movie is set in is a brand new one, and not part of any
current or past D&D world. In this world, the magic is held by the social
elite and nobility only. The common people are magicless and trodden on by
the upper class mages.
Justin did mention that the stupidest thing he did in the movie (he
and Lee did most of their own stunts) involved a labyrinth called the
Thief's Maze. Richard O'Brien plays the smarmy head of the Thieves Guild
who sends Ridley in. During the entire shoot, apparently, Corey started
every morning by telling Justin "Today, I'm gonna kill you" or "Justin,
today's the day you're gonna die for this movie." Well, the final day of
shooting was the Thief's Maze. Corey pulled Justin aside and said,
"Justin, I've missed you up until now, but today's the day that we're gonna
get you killed." They finished the shoot, and then looked at the shot. One
of the shots involves swinging axes that Justin had to time his way through,
but he never got that close to them in the shot. He looked at Corey and
said "I should probably be in the shot with the axe, huh." Corey agreed,
and the rest of the crew shuddered. The axes each weighed about 300 lbs a
piece and Justin bravely stood in front of the first on and told them to let
it go. He said that he was amazed how fast it came swinging down at him and
barely moved out of the way. In the freeze frame you can see the axe brush
his clothes. He ran thought the other axes and looked at the crew. He said
that the screen writer was in the corner crying, the rest of the crew looked
shocked and the DP came up and just said, "Boy are you stupid." Then Corey
came running out yelling "That was awesome!!!"
The "trailer" they showed was an older tape that they brought around
to TSR/WOTC/Hasbro as well as Warner Brothers just to show what they had
done so far. The effects looked cool, but the dragons weren't finished yet.
They moved gorgeously, but they weren't quite the filled out, beautiful
creatures you'd expect. They will be soon, though. Corey said to expect
the advertising campaign to start in 60 days with a finished trailer. To
reiterate from other posts, there is no fixed release date, but Warner
Brothers is considering making this film a major release on either Memorial
Day or Thanksgiving. The film print should be finished within 2 weeks or so
and then shown to the execs so they can make a decision. If they like the
movie that much, they're gonna mass market the film and merchandising,
merchandising, merchandising. That means Memorial Day. If they decide that
it's good but they don't want to merchandise (doubtful) then Thanksgiving.
Corey and the rest didn't care when it was released as long as it was.
One more interesting note about the panel was the discussion about
D&D vs. LOTR. Corey mentioned that he went to the execs in charge of LOTR
and brought them footage of the D&D flick and they showed him footage of
LOTR. They had a long talk about the two film and decided that LOTR is LOTR
and D&D is D&D and that no matter what they did, it would be good for the
genre, so they don't want to compete with each other. If this D&D film goes
off and succeeds, then the rest of the trilogy will be made and obviously,
all of LOTR is coming out, so why not bounce off of each other, rather than
compete. So, to that I say....HELL YEAH! Let's hear the cheers fan boys.
Get out there and support D&D the Movie! Long Live Epic Fantasy!
Sparky
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I saw pictures of the orcs... Big rubbery looking things. Might as well put a man in a godzilla suit and have him stomping around. Don't get me wrong, I WILL go and see this movie. But I am not holding out too much hope.
Now LOTR, THAT is going to be a movie!
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Almost first...
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This film sounds like it's gonna' rock hard!
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I saw the same shot... They look like orcs to me. A small, red, dark, still image is not something you want to make a decision with. I saw a close up of a dragons eye as well, and it looked fucking cool. The sets are fantastic, and its D&D for gods sake! I'm going to see it. If someone doesn't thats just one less person in front of me trying to get a ticket, and missing out to boot.
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What I've seen of D&D so far looks woefully tacky,less like Legend ..and more like Hawk the Slayer, crossed with Drwho !Hearing that the films main dwarf, is played by a 5 foot 8 inch actor , who has to *squat* down a lot *but you won't really notice* , doesn't ease my fears... that, this film is going to be cheap shit!
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Just support sci-fi/fantasy, The producers are not at war. LOTR, Star Wars and DnD are not made so we can fight over if one kicks or not.
Chill out, go see the damn movies,and enjoy them all.
DnD will kick.
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Hey folks...this is Sparky, the guy who posted this. My fault for making this mistake. Lee Arenberg is NOT 5'8, he's 5'4. And the squatting thing is a bowlegged walk that makes him just under 5'0 tall. So, my bad. Sorry again.
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it is my understanding the mr courtney solomon is something of a prick, actually--who screwed some of his original investors by not paying them up front but giving them back end points on the film--a deal that fell through. unfortunately, THIS WAS THE FX HOUSE DOING THE DRAGON FX and there is something of a question as to where the dragons are going to come from, now. I heard the guy spent a great deal of time arguing with actors/rewriting the script on the set, and that he has little to no film experience. Further more Mr Solomon proposes to create a new D&D world for the film to take place in--WHY? WHY, god, WHY? are there not about a MILLION differnt game worlds to set a story in? and isn't that a guarantee'd fanbase? greyhawk, ravenloft, planescape--hell, pick a forgotten realm--I think this guy just wants royalties if wizards(not TSR, but wizards, the pokemon/magic fuckos) decides to create a game module around his world. I think it's terrible that loyal D&D fans around the world are going to have THIS to represent them in the world of cinema. I'll take that dr demento radio sketch over this any damn day of the week.
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I've read a lot of the interviews with the actors in the film and everyone seems to have really enjoyed working with Corey Soloman. I don't know anything about what kind of experience that he has but I do know that he has invested over 10 years of his life into bringing this movie to life. That is the kind of passion that D&D needs to be done correctly. I agree that there are a lot of existing D&D worlds out there that could make great movies such as Dragonlance or Ravenloft (how cool would that be)but I think it is smart from TSR's point of view to make this an unknown world. If the movie ends up sucking then they haven't ruined the movie portrayal of an existing world in the fans' eyes and if the movies kick ass, they can move on to make Dragonlance or Ravenloft or Forgotten Realms or whatever. this movie does not have the huge budget of LOTR but it seems they are making the money they have go a long way. If we can overlook the things that are the direct result of the budget such as the quality of the orcs and judge the movie on its own merits then possibly the backers will give a lot more money for the future movies to fix the problems of the first. On a final note, I would like to request that whoever makes a future D&D movie get Boris Vallejo to design the female armor. Please!!!
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The thing I would find extremely amusing (were it not for the sad vileness of it) is the penchant of so many talk-back posters to be so implacably, violently against movies and ideas that they know next to nothing of. So you saw a couple production stills... so what, weren't you more aware of the fact that everthing looks crappy in the unlighted, badly photographed stills that are only put out to appeases the increasingly demanding fans. Until a film has been through the final edit, you will never ever have a true honest depiction of what to expect. Final edit will tell the story, not your excessivly opinionated but still entirely ignorant posts. Please give the film a chanc, and wait till you see a screening befor you attach yourself unshakeably to a belief based upon a crappy photo, and rumors. I think D&D will be good, at least there's a fan making the movie, and people involved in it that love the whole idea of fantasy. We should thank our lucky stars and be glad they didn't give the movie to a bloated basticth hack like Joel Schumacher (though he did well on Seven)who knows nothing of the history and doesn't care what current fans desire. I'm seeing D&D, you go too, then form your unmoveable opinion. Peace out True Believers!
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Lord Zanthos makes a pretty good point until...Joel Schumacher did not direct seven, David Fincher did. Schumacher is not a hack. He just has made the odd bad movie. Every director on earth is guilty of that. This is just a fact of life, with all that goes into make a film sometimes things go wrong. It's a two year project!
As for DnD loved the game as a kid but I would rather see an original property brought to the screen. Why must any game or comic that sells more than two copies be made into a bloated peice of hollywood? Somebody just make something up! Till the release date I will suspend judgement. I love swords and wizards and all of that shit but...Ladyhawk, Dragonheart, Firstknight, etc,(o.k films but flawed.) have made me more than cautious. Its always the first timers with a tight budget that drops the ball. Lotr on the other hand I have no fear will infact be the fantasy film I / we have waited for....quietly. -
The D&D Trilogy? Was I the only one who saw that little comment? Now let's see, what other fantasy series has a trilogy? LOTR! Unless I was brain dead, I'd say D&D really does want to enter the franchise movie competition. If it's true D&D is a trilogy, I think I'm going to skip the first episode. I'm sure the next two won't be written until they know what demographic turns out for this movie. (For real yuks, they could title the movies "Beginner", "Expert", "Companion"...) P.S. Don't fuck with Doctor Who and the Green Death!
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Jul 07, 2000 9:43:17 AM CDT
You hear that, Disney? Room for more than one, you greedy f@cks
by wesley snipes
Two groups with the enlightened idea that during the TWELVE months of a year, two similar films can be released without interfering with each other.
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but LOTR is not, strictly speaking, a trilogy. A trilogy, by definition, must be three independent works that come together to form a larger whole. In other words, if you must read the first book to understand the last two, the work you are reading is not a trilogy. Cormac McCarthy's Border Trilogy of _All the Pretty Horses_, _The Crossing_, and _Cities of the Plain_ is a good example of a trilogy. Tolkien in fact intended LOTR to be taken as a whole, not as a trilogy, and even made comments to that effect. Sorry this is off topic, but with all the talk of trilogies on this talk back so far, I had to vent on something that's been bugging me for the past few months that LOTR has been in production.
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Your argument completely backs up Seymour Glass's statement. He's saying that if you have to have read Fellowship to understand Two Towers, then its not a trilogy - its just one HUGE book broken up into smaller parts. Before telling him he's talking out of his ass, try to get what he's really saying because, well, you're saying it, too.
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The fact that the individual books of LOTR cannot be understood without having read the preceding books is precisely the reason why LOTR is not a trilogy. Like I said before, to be a trilogy, the three books must make sense independently of each other. The phrase "Frodo Lives" began appearing around America during the early sixties, nearly 4 years after the final volume's release in Britain. Up to the mid to late sixties, the book had only a cult following in America, hence the graffiti on subways, and the buttons that one can still find in some places, proclaiming "Frodo Lives." Tolkien wrote a single book, but he released them as three volumes, not, I reiterate, as three independent novels. My reference to McCarthy's Border Trilogy, I thought, made this point fairly clear. One can read Cities of the Plain without having read the previous two and still understand the plot and the characters. Do you lose some depth of understanding? Of course. That is why it works as a trilogy. But LOTR must be read sequentially to be understandable. Therefore it is a single work of three volumes. And by the way, I agree, D&D looks like it should be quite enjoyable from what I've heard.
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I for one am relieved that the D&D movie will be an original world. That will save us from all the whiners who will piss and moan about the movie not staying true to (world of your choice here). And let's face it, it would be almost certain not to measure up to the devoted fans expectations. Personally I always thought that those prepackaged worlds were a crutch for those who didn't have the time or imagination to make up a world of their own.
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"Dungeons and Dragons... Satan's game. You children are roleplaying their way into the hands of El Diablo... But don't blame them. Blame their gym teacher, who made fun of them when they couldn't do one single pull-up." That skit was done by the Dead Alewives, who's most prominent member is Rob Schrab, also the author of SCUD: The Disposable Assassin.
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Hey, that's okay. No big deal. I mean, to be perfectly honest the post didn't really belong in a D&D talkback, but, you know, what can I do about it now? Or as Homer Simpson always says, "Eh, what're ya gonna do?"
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The D&D movie as I see it will be like "Wing Commander" was to Star Wars Ep.1" when it arrives the same year as LOTR. No brag just fact. As long as it's not Battlefield Earth bad I'll catch
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Dragonlance, Icewind Dale, Dark Elf Trilogy, Cleric's Quintet, Darksun, etc, etc... So many amazing stories waiting to be made into kick ass movies, but their fates all hang on this one possibly crappy first attempt. We all have to show up for it on the opening weekend dragging as many friends as possible. Hopefully it'll be a really good movie...but even if not we'll have cast our votes for more D&D movies.
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I haven't played it a lot. I do have a pretty good understanding of it, but if someone wants to correct me, that's fine. Maybe the D&D stories are heartfelt, sweeping epics full of passion and emotionally rich characters. But generally I'm forced to conclude that D&D is based more on coldly mechanical statistics and elaborate rules (like +1 maces and all that gibberish) than the imagination and emotion that the genre should be based on. The mere fact that Solomon put so much stock in recreating "the rules of the game" in the movie strikes me as a bad sign. All D&D and it's ilk are just 5th-generation knock-offs of Tolkien anyway, and all they have to offer is superficial additions like "cool new creatures" and such. But emotionally and dramatically, Tolkien already said everything that can really be said with the "sword and sorcery" genre, so why do we need this movie? Just as Fantasy is preparing to become a legitimate genre on the screen at least, with the release of LOTR, we get this trashy tag-along to drag the genre back to the level it's been at for thirty years. Fantasy is the genre with the most possible room, it can be so much more than burly guys hacking away at "orcs". Orcs! Tolkien created Orcs! The current status quo of fantasy is as if every SF story featured "jedi" and "the force"! Use your imagination, guys!!!
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How can these people even mention D&D in the same breath as LOTR you don't make a decent film with $30million nowadays, the damn thing is a board game they would have been better using the D&D cartoon as their model for the film Venger, Hank et al
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seen the film...it's a ripoff of the matrix, raiders and star wars a new hope...the effects will be good, but who cares....and one of the wayans brothers plays a live action Jar Jar! Oh my!
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Jul 07, 2000 1:49:32 PM CDT
On a slightly irrelevant but still fantasy related note...
by mephisto666
...Ridley, where is my fucking Legend DVD?!!
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D&D may not turn out to be the greatest fantasy film ever...well actually it could quite easily...but I am definitely going to see it asa stop gap until LOTR
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The film is going to be crap...
The film will suck...
How many of you were actually at the preview screening at DragonCon 2000? I was there and saw the tape. I have no doubts DnD will not make as much as LOTR, the Bone Church and that Opera House they used look absolutely killer. The dragons did look unfinished but to see a bunch of wizards launch fireballs from the balcony just kicked ass. Everyone who has seen the preview thought the DnD movie might actually have a chance.
And which fantasy rights would I grab? No question, Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan. I think its the best fantasy series evey made. -
If you can think of a fantasy series, or for that matter any singular fantasy work, I've probably read it. Not to boast, just a statement of fact. What fantasy series would I pick? Has anyone out there read The Fionavar Tapestry, by Guy Gavriel Kay? Simply one of the most beautiful works of fiction of any genre I have ever read. The foozle (supreme bad dude) goes by the monicker... The Unraveller. In a scene early on in the books, he performs an act of such brutal severity, you end up actually feeling real fear. The books are astonishingly well-written, and feature some of the most wonderfully developed characters you will ever encounter. Many, many, wonderful surprises too. Hope this answers your query DP.
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For something completely different, you could never go wrong with the Icewind Dale books by R.A. Salvatore. Sure, they have more of a pulp novel feel to them, but does anyone actually not love Drizzt? They may be simple, D&D-based novels, but they would make wonderful movies. And, of course, you couldn't go wrong with The Wheel of Time. Have a great day!
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Reading these posts I'm like, "Damn I stopped playing this game when I was about 16." I've heard of Ravenloft, Forgotten Realms, Dragonlance, and some of what you guys are talking about but very little details. I can see a lot of you killing your parents because Tor Mudslinger used a 4th level fireball against a red dragon or a kill spell versus undead and neither work! People, people, people. Let's remember that this is likely to be, at best, a DECENT movie. This is not the D&D that you play every weekend until 4 a.m. nor is it truly based on any fantasy worlds you may have "gamed" in before. Take a deep breath and go back to your Dragon magazines. Myself I would love this to be a spoof in the vein of Ringo Star's "Caveman." Make it so stupid and lame that you bust your gut laughing. If it has the possibility of being a b-movie then have fun with it.
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regarding the previous post... Hey, so cool of you to pick on D&D and make fun of it and people who play it. 4th level fireball/kill spell indeed... Anyway, there's enough of that already, so the last thing we want to see is a parody that makes fun of itself. I ran a very good D&D game into my late 20's. I've seen that people's preceptions of the game depend entirely on the playing group. Some are played well and some not so well. Think of it like basing your opinion of TV entirely on all episodes of three's company vs star trek the next generation. Entirely different perceptions of the same medium. To some people it's the D&D cartoon and mortal combat, and to others it's braveheart and dragonslayer. This movie could go either way or in between. I don't think it'll come close to LOTR in ticket sales but that doesn't mean it's going to be a failure. I hope it does at least good enough for a sequal, hopefully with a much bigger budget. I'll be there on opening day to show my support because I really REALLY want to see some of those novels made into movies.
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Brilliant story but the ending sucked. Kay was too desperate to have an unconventional ending, so created an unbelievable one instead.
As for LOTR being so unbelievably good it can't be beaten, don't forget that they are changing bits of the story to fit in with the director's vision. This could be good or it could be truly appalling. Expanding the role of Arwen Undomiel might work,or may backfire spectacularly. Let's not get our hopes too high.
The D&D film will not really be based on the game. Let's face it, everyone has their own definition of role playing, and their own idea of what the game is all about. I'm just glad that Hollywood have finally realised the main market for Sword & Sorcery adults not children. -
Walk with me, brother, for we have huch to talk about... I'd prefer a filmed version of Arbonne or Tigana (of course) over Fionavar - they're shorter and more mature (and let's face it - less derivative. If Fionavar wasn't so damn good it would be horrible). But please, film the man!******** Cracky & co.: if you want to make a film based on Death Gate, do you mind writing an ending? The first five books were the best writing W&H ever did - and I'm a fan - but the last two are just white noise.They were so poorly written I honestly cannot remember what happened in them.********** Another writer who should be filmed, immediately, is Stephen R. Donaldson. True story: Eight years ago I was talking with an old friend of my father's, a VERY highly ranked studio executive. We were discussing the books I was reading now, and I mentioned the Thomas Covenant stories. He diplayed some interest and asked me what they were about, saying that maybe there was a film in there; I told him that no way that series could be filmed - it was too large-scaled, too emotionally intense. He dropped the subject. ******** I was pretty much a dork at the time. 18 years old, but a dork.
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Funny...my dictionary defines "trilogy" as "a series of three dramas or literary works or sometimes three musical compositions that are closely related and develop a single theme". LOTR seems to be a trilogy indeed, although I can see how, with your definition, LOTR doesn't qualify as a trilogy. But where did your definition come from? Anyway.......as usual I'm completely off topic :) But that one really threw me, cuz I've never seen anyone protest that LOTR is a trilogy...
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If you have ever played the game (and I bet most of us here have) you are going to have this conversation. "Oh come on what level is he that dice roll is impossible" "he can't make that saving throw" "the human can not possible make that shot in the dark they don't have inforvision" "What lv do you think he was at when the movie started ... Yeah but by the end he's what 25 lv no can get that much XP for what happened in this movie" "This movie is so UNREALISTIC"
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I just think it's funny how everyone is getting into violent arguments about Lord of the Rings and Dungeons and Dragons. "I will fuck you up if you insult Frodo one more damn time!"
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I think this movie will be great and something complete different from LOTR....And I really want to see this trailer!!!! ...............................Cheers, Cirdan..............
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I wholeheartedly agree with the Death Gate idea. it would be cool to see the Labyrinth on screen.Some others that would adapt well would be Roger Zelazny's Amber series ,The Belgariad series by David Eddings ,The Riddlemaster of Hed by Patricia McKillip,and the Rift War Saga by Raymond Feist.
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Alessan, you are so right about Tigana being not only more original but also a better bet for the big screen. As to the Deathgate Cycle, I think the sheer length of it makes it more suited to a television adaptation. It is way past time that the TV execs realised exactly what their medium is capable of. Back to films - David Gemmell's 'Legend'is surely made for the big screen?
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I feel compelled to mention the COLDFIRE TRILOGY by C.S. Friedman as one of the great Storyline/Settings/Magic Systems for its originality and maturity. Any one else here read it, think it would make a truly "Magic" movie?
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After LOTR, Tigana would be my first choice for a sword movie. The Covenant series wouldn't make a good movie, but Donaldon's sci-fi Gap series (five novels comprising one big story, absolutely dependent on each other like LOTR) as a movie would make me so happy I would freak the fuck out.
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Death Gate - the reason these books cannot be filmed is because, simply, they have no ending. I refuse to accept the last two books as part of this superior series - in fact, I have a feeling they were written because of contractual obligations, and not because they wanted to finish the series. Perhaps they even wrote the books poorly on purpose; perhaps they didn't even write them. Whatever the reason may be, the conclusion of the saga was just white noise, no more. Just like the last two books in Robert Jordan's misguided epic, the characters went here, they went there, they acted anguished, there was some sort of rushed resolution. I'm sorry, but why does the hero have to become a wimp in order to prove his redemption? Why were so many threads (dragons, titans etc.)left untied? And Maggie, Tracy: If you introduce a strangely familiar caracter in book 2, and use him to wink at all of us fans for the remainder of the series, insinuating at the end that he is actually NOT the same familiar character is not a "twist". It is a gyp.********** The Gap Cycle - Amen to that, although I doubt Hollywood has the balls to film such a complex, mature science-fiction movie. Just in case they do - how about Harvey Keitel fo Angus? Imagine him saying "Captain Sheepfucker". ****** Tigana... may my memory of you be like a blade in my soul. Yes, friends, I'm a fanboy, albeit a very rarifed sort.
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... but that just doesn't wash. Sure, I saw the *wink, wink, nudge,nudge* side of it, but I assumed that the character was there for a reason; in other words, Zifnab was indeed Fizban, and Fizban was really Paladine, and Paladine is a God. I therefore waited six books for him to manifest himself - because let's face it, what W&H do best is religeous fantasy - and instead I got a half-assed insinuation that he was some sort of brain-damaged Sartan. It's like Lucas filming EP3 without Anakin turning into Vader.
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It seems to me that any author who 'borrows' an entire character from their past work and transplants it whole into their new one is just being lazy. Or running out of ideas. Either way is not good.
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Still han't convinced me, pal. Why should I care who publihed the books? The character was there for a purpose, and if it wasn't supposed to be the same one from the earlier book, than there was no need to give him an identical description, identical personality and (nearly) identical name. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then I sure as hell expect it to be duck - or I expect a damn good reason why it's impersonating a duck. "Sorry, you were wrong" just dosn't cut it. As for your Clancy example: yes, of course I would. Why don't you try to convince Stephen King that the Flagg characters from the Stand and from the Dark Tower (not to mention the Eyes of the Dragon) have absolutely no connection between them?
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Hmmm... I just read my last comment over, and it is not really clear. What I mean is that a new character on a new world (New publisher or not) will carry his or her own back history, which should make that character unique. Thus, it is lazy (not to mention inept) to use the personality of an old character - unless the two are really the same character. Is that clearer?
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First off, D&D looks to be developing nicely, and I don't think that mirroring the XP and play system will detract from the movie at all. --- Second, the only major modern fantasy series I can picture translating to screen well (TWoT can't - can one break the canon? No. So the producers would have to include a lot of shite and the back-story and history of randland is the most interesting part of the series -- how could a director include all of that?!?) is George R R Martin's A Song of Fire and Ice. So what if he's just finished book three of six? Martin's books are heavily based on the people and societies which inhabit his fantastic world, and all the elements of magic are treated with wonder and astonishment, for they *are* rare... and this is what a filmified fantasy series needs. Go light on the CGI, heavy on the characters, politics, and *real* world. At least that's what I would need to be sold...
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He's finished book no. 3? When's it coming out?
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Does anyone think Tad Williams' Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn set-of-three-(or four)-books-which-may-or-may-not-be-considered-a-trilogy would make a good series of movies? I thought the books were awesome, mostly because Williams' world seemed more complete than other fantasy worlds I've read about. I really admired the way he established different cultures, their languages, their customs, and their inter-relationships with one another even when those relationships didn't have a direct bearing on his story. I suppose that same complexity would be difficult to film clearly, though....
Oh well, just a thought.
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The script for the D&D movie - and I've read two drafts - is so atrocious that those effects better kick ass if only to distract. Maybe the score will drown out the miserable dialogue. I think its hilarious that Corey, the director, had the nerve to think that LOTR and his film may be in competition. Peter Jackson should be just as nervous if USA Network plans a BEASTMASTER marathon for LOTR's opening night.
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I think Billy Bob Thornton would be a better Angus, actually, with Denzel Washington or Johnny Depp as Nick. This is a fun game. In my dreams, the Coens will adapt Donaldson's Gap series for the big screen.
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I have to agree on the nominations for Tad Williams' and C.S. Friedman's work. Both would be amazing to see on film, though they would both need at least a trilogy of films to do them any sort of justice.
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