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OCEAN'S ELEVEN casting from Clooney's mouth to your eyes!
Hey folks, Harry here and man.... sure does look like that cast list I got hold of about a billion years ago has pretty much come to pass... Though it's looking as if the chips didn't fall in place for Jet Li or Michael Douglas... though only time will tell for certain. BUT DAMN... this cast is STRONG AS HELL!!!! I've included two original posters for the old 1960 OCEAN'S ELEVEN... Personally I hope Warners models the poster after the Belgium poster
Hey Harry!
This is the Ocelot checking in with ya. This time I thought
I'd give you some dirt on the upcoming flick with THE coolest sounding
cast in recent memory - OCEAN'S ELEVEN!!
(Dear God, can you even imagine what the poster is going to look like?
The image I keep getting in my mind is like The Usual Suspects line-up
shot... except it's three times longer!!)
Well, a friend of mine who works for a major magazine was privileged
enough to go on the junket for The Perfect Storm in Gloucester, Mass.
and he even scored a few questions with Clooney to boot. So, my pal
decided to confirm some Ocean's Eleven casting while he was there.
Apparently, George said that the move is a lock and they're just
pounding out the deals as we speak. So, according to Clooney - Julia
Roberts, Brad Pitt, Bruce Willis, Don Cheadle, Mark Wahlberg, Bill
Murray (as a lounge singer!!), Don Rickles, Luke & Owen Wilson, and
himself are confirmed (with deals pending).
The big shock was that George said that Michael Douglas was NEVER
approached to star in the film and he seemed genuinely surprised when my
pal brought his name up. That's weird. Oh well, maybe Soderbergh will
hurry up and ask him before Traffic finishes shooting.
So, there's my nugget of dirt, Harry. Do with it what you please.
Take care,
The Ocelot
PS - I know this is a fanboy's wet dream, but Ocean's Eleven is a heist
picture and... how freaking cool would it be if Soderbergh let Luke and
Owen Wilson play their characters from Bottle Rocket?! Can you
imagine? Dignan robs Las Vegas!! Sigh... one can always dream...
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Impressive.
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Jun 28, 2000 12:06:25 AM CDT
Scoops Left and Right Tonight!! And as Scoops Go, this is a Goo
by bari umenema
Not sure if casting scoops qualify as Real Scoops but nevertheless, this is Hot Stuff and Cool News. Bill Murray will steal the show if he does his cheesy loungelizard act from the old Saturday Night Live sketches. Of course Willis could've Starred in this as Danny Ocean, now he's playing Peter Lawford's part? Or Dino's part? Keep 'em comin' oh Master of the Web...
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Jun 28, 2000 12:11:37 AM CDT
My Belgian mus be a little rusty, but what is the direct transla
by bari umenema
11 Guys in a Minuet? Anyone speak or read Belgian? Hommes is latin-root for Men and Minuit? A Dance or a Caper? Anyone care to enlighten me or correct me? Your Belgian translation is welcome...
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There was something about it on the Internet Movie Database the other day, anyway, this still sounds a bit fishy. By the way, to the poster above me, that was some high quality ass-kissing you did. Keep it comin', oh brown nosed one.
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Jun 28, 2000 12:13:31 AM CDT
I would watch a film with Clooney talking about the price of tea
by superninja
The guy is that hot. Not to mention he's likeable. Hot and likeable. Not a bad combination alltogether I would say.
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cool, cool! i really really like how soderberg directs directs his films films! every single one of them them!
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but wasn't the original one really cheesey?
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Sodenbergh........NUFF MOTHERFUCKING SAID!
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And it's not "Belgian", it's French. French is the language they speak in Belgium. And Wahlberg hating Clooney? That makes no sense. "I hate you so much I'm going to make three movies with you in as many years!"
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I mean, I know people who like me. I think. I mean I. . .I. . .OH MY GOD, I'M GOING TO DIE LONELY! Oh well, so much for pathos. Anyway, I saw The Limey this weekend, and I LOVED it. It was like Payback, only with real human beings (I liked Payback too.) Stamp's performance was subtle, yet striking (literally). I felt like I met somebody. Soderbergh's presentation was affecting without being intrusive. I've already forgotton most of Shaft (Sam Jackson or Laurence Fishburne? I can't remember.), but The Limey (corny wind-up) I won't soon forget. Hopefully Soderbergh can now do something interesting with this new 8oo pound gorilla: the gaggle of expensive (overpriced?) actors lined up for Ocean's 11.
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I'm sure Clooney will have a part for Mr. Bishop in a cameo somewhere. Clooney's that kind of guy to help the original class actors out.
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Jun 28, 2000 1:12:47 AM CDT
Joey Bishop isn't dead? huh, you learn something new every day.
by mrmastodonfarm
That is a great cast, but I couldn't help but laugh when I saw Don Rickles tossed in there. Clooney! Willis! Roberts! Rickles! ... I just hope this cast holds true. I wonder if Luis Guzman will have a part...
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Jun 28, 2000 1:22:24 AM CDT
How can scorsese possobly want Travolta to play Sinatra in his r
by rockojinx
Travolta can only play this role if he sheds about90lb and considering how he's notorious for delaying a whole set while he tucks into a third helping of fried chicken etc, well you can can see the logistical problems inherent in such a piece of casting. Rat Pack era Frank =110lb.
Present day Travolta = chunkster. Did they have the "truffle shuffle" in Oceans 11? Food for thought. (but non for Johnny) -
Clooney and Wahlberg have both said that they are totally different people and that they don't hang out, as such. But, from interviews and such (read the July Premiere article on The Perfect Storm for more on this) they seem to have a good working relationship and respect each other professionally. I think there's also a bit about this on one of the special features on the Three Kings DVD.
As for Joey Bishop, I thought he was dead until a few months ago.
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Here's the article and it is OBVIOUSLY tongue-firmly-in-cheek ... not sure how you could possibly think otherwise:
George Clooney is on a mission to cut Mark Wahlberg down to size - because he keeps upstaging him. Clooney, who co-stars with the former rapper in Three Kings (1999), and the upcoming Perfect Storm, The (2000), says he's fed up of Wahlberg stealing his thunder - and is plotting his revenge. He says, "You watch Three Kings (1999) - he's the lead in it. He's the star. I remember watching him and going, 'the little f**ker. I'll kill him'. And he's the lead in this one, too. So I'm not going to act with him anymore. I'm going to say, 'Now that you've taken two movies away from me, make me some money.'" And Clooney says, when it comes to Wahlberg, he's going to be merciless in his treatment. He adds, "I'm going to sell him down the river. My thing now is to catch Mark at the top and ride him into the ground. Ski him into oblivion."
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Yea Zeno. You are dead on. The Limey and Payback both have similar storylines. Porter and Wilson are lowlifes (Wilson being a former British criminal, while Porter is a thief), who have nothing going for them, except for their professions. ...And, they won't stop, until they get what they lost, back. Good observation there.
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Yea, Soderberg has a unique direction. Whether you any of you like Erin Brockovich or not, the look of the film was low budget in some ways. It didn't look like it was one of those completely 100% studio-polished films. Also, a lot of people actually looked like ordinary, well fleshed-out human beings and not just some beautiful Hollywood faces (besides Julia Roberts).
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Jun 28, 2000 2:17:23 AM CDT
Prankster: Thanks for the Translation, Now it Makes Sense!
by bari umenema
As Homer Simpson might say, "D'Oh!" Should've known they speak French in Belgium. They also make Belgian Waffles in France and French Toast here in the States so go figure. Again, I thank you Prankster and so does my Universal Galaxy Quest Translator. Adios Muchachos!!!
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How could I, using the monicker Ratpack Slim keep quiet about this flick any longer? I fucking LOVE the original. Why? Is it because of the incredible story? Nah, not really. The plot's so-so; it doesn't really start cookin' until about halfway in. It's all about the personalities, baby. Frank, Dino, Smokey, Cyril, and the Jew...with props to Shirley, Mr. Roper, Hank Silva, and all the rest for keepin' it tight. And if anyone's offended at this juncture, I sentence you to listen and/or watch a performance of the legendary Summit. So what's my point? Glad ya asked, daddy...
Point is, goddammit I'm torn. I love Soderbergh, and I really like Clooney, as well as most of the rest of the line-up, who I think will shine under the direction of the Double S. But to try to outdo the masters? I just hope that they try to capture the flavor of the piece and not try to one-up it. Not that I know ol' Georgy C., but he strikes me as a cat who keeps it real. If I see Seth Gecko tryin' to front like Francis Albert, I walk. If he's his own badass self, my ass stays in the seat. This has been yet another Ratpack Ramblin' that no one will respond to. E-O ELEVEN.... -
How could I, using the monicker Ratpack Slim keep quiet about this flick any longer? I fucking LOVE the original. Why? Is it because of the incredible story? Nah, not really. The plot's so-so; it doesn't really start cookin' until about halfway in. It's all about the personalities, baby. Frank, Dino, Smokey, Cyril, and the Jew...with props to Shirley, Mr. Roper, Hank Silva, and all the rest for keepin' it tight. And if anyone's offended at this juncture, I sentence you to listen and/or watch a performance of the legendary Summit. So what's my point? Glad ya asked, daddy...
Point is, goddammit I'm torn. I love Soderbergh, and I really like Clooney, as well as most of the rest of the line-up, who I think will shine under the direction of the Double S. But to try to outdo the masters? I just hope that they try to capture the flavor of the piece and not try to one-up it. Not that I know ol' Georgy C., but he strikes me as a cat who keeps it real. If I see Seth Gecko tryin' to front like Francis Albert, I walk. If he's his own badass self, my ass stays in the seat. This has been yet another Ratpack Ramblin' that no one will respond to. E-O ELEVEN.... -
Not a bad movie, really, but Stamp, I'm sorry to say, was really quite bland. He had his affectations, his quirks, but no personality to really draw me in. Staring blankly forward and speaking emotionlessly just didn't cut it for me. Factor in some stylish direction that was interesting but did little to serve the story or the individual scenes, and you have a movie that's hip but flat, cool but forgettable. Sidebar: that Denise Richards lookalike that was Peter Fonda's main squeeze...holy God, she made me want to be a crime boss. My big plan: watch the classic Trek episode "A Piece of the Action" over and over until by osmosis, I gain gangster-moxie and attract droves of hot mommas. I think it'll work. Will report back with results.
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Yeah, the two charecters are kind of alike, the main difference being Terrance Stamp's Wilson is basically an upstanding human being with a mission while Mel Gibson's charecter is a flat out psycho. As the screenwriter for The Limey says "if you didn't have a babysitter that night, you could probably call on Wilson". Gibson, on the other hand, would probably trade the kids for a carton of Kools. Commmorant (sorry, probably messed up that spelling): I kind of agree on Terry's performace but not on SS's direction. The style actually did serve a point once you realise that the whole movie was a flashback. When the film opens, you think you're seeing Terrance fly to America, when actually he's flying _away_. As he sits in his seat, he remembers not only the last week, but earlier parts of his life as well. Like most memories, things don't always come in order and sometimes the visuals and the audio, as it were, aren't quite in synch.
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I thought "The Limey" was VERY overrated and Erin Brockoich sucked shit.
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Hey Edgard here ! (Lethal Waffle is my warrior name) As a Belgian myself, I can maybe precise a few things... Belgian Waffles are a big American joke as we have many kind of waffles in Belgium but don't eat as much as you would thing. Funnily what you call French Fries are indeed very typical of Belgium, even French people when they make fun of Belgians (quite a lot), they say we eat fries all the time. Which is almost true. Finally Belgium is a funny country as we have 3 official languages which are : French, Dutch and German... meaning that if you're up north Belgium you have to speak Dutch, French in the South and German in the small Eastern part. That's also why politics in Belgium is so fucked up as everyone tries to stupidly protect his own langage. Welcome to the 21st century ! And to finish the translation of the poster is "11 men at midnight" which doesn't mean much actually... (it's in French in the clock and in Dutch at the bottom). That's it for the cultural lesson dear friends.
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in Belgium, we also speak Dutch -and a very little piece speaks German.
Anyway I'm kinda curious what this movie will be like. I liked Out of sight and Underneath, but I haven't seen his other works yet. -
Actually Cormy, it is curious that you were unaffected by The Limey. Stamp's performance gave you a simple, straight-ahead guy who was mired in some very complex issues. His line readings were direct, yes, but intense. He was a knife. Moreover, I believed the performance. Futher, Soderbergh's direction wasn't for the sake of style: It was disjointed and non-linear, like a mind musing over events; and like a mind musing over events, salient points are gone over again and again, reminding us what's important, emotionally important, in any given situation. *Spoiler Ho:* By the time we find he unwittingly played a hand in his daughter's demise, all the images become both poignant and ironic. *Whew! End Spoilers* Of course, if it had no emotional impact on you, it had no emotional impact on you; and for you, the movie failed (curiously). Come back to it one day, and give it another shot. Meanwhile, in regard to you plagiarism allegations in the Fox Animation Talkbacks, I have addressed those issues there. I believe any further disagreements of this kind should be handled through our lawyers. By the way, does anyone know a good lawyer?
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i agree with the guy who said not to count out douglas yet. not that i'm mr. inside-hollywood, but i read an article recently that listed all these people as being in the movie - roberts, pitt, willis, murray as the lounge singer, the wilson bros., cheadle, willis, rickles, wahlberg...BUT it also said that douglas was in, and even specifically mentioned his part. he plays the owner of a casino. actors who work with soderbergh tend to fall in love with him and want to work with him again (see roberts, clooney, cheadle, luis guzman etc.) so i'm predicting that michael douglas (who of course is now shooting TRAFFIC with S.S.) does end up in this thing. BTW, anyone read the cover story on george in the new men's journal? it says he's re-making ocean's 11, with brad pitt and julia roberts, as a live television drama! i thought that was funny. dude, if you're reading this, it was called Fail Safe and you're getting your projects all mixed up.
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It'll never happen, as I think the script right now calls for Luke and Owen Wilson to play brothers, but it would be inspired and an INCREDIBLE fanboy dream come true to have the Anthony and Dignon characters from Bottle Rocket be part of Ocean's 11.
Somehow I can't imagine Dignon allowing Danny Ocean to plan anything, being the master theif he is. hahaha I can see it now, Clooney and the rest of the cast with tape over their noses. Exactly! -
Go away, you simpleton! Nobody likes you.
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Hey bro, I'm right with you on this one. Clooney is terrible. A cardboard cut-out of an actor. He looks cool, so everyone wants him to be a good actor. But looks alone do not an actor make. I think Soderbergh had a big miss with OUT OF SIGHT and a lot of that had to do with Clooney's dull performance. People, THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES AND CLOONEY HAS NO RANGE!
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One of the best OS Star Trek episodes ever. Sorry, just wanted to add that...
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Jun 28, 2000 1:12:04 PM CDT
If Clooney has no range, then neither does Harrison Ford, Tommy
by superninja
Clooney is just LIKEABLE as hell. When I see Clooney in the right part, he just sinks to a comfort level where you are right there with him -- his buddy, his pal. If you don't like Clooney's acting, then you just don't like Clooney. The same with Harrison Ford. Of course NO ONE likes a film where someone phones in a performance, but I think Clooney has given a genuine effort in every pic he's been in to date.
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Look, I was all about sentencing this guy to t.v. hell when he first came on the scene -- I just didn't get all the hype. But after watching him in his last few performances, he's really got a nice vibe going on on screen these days. I think he's perfect for an ensemble piece and the Sinatra character. This movie isn't going to be about Clooney, it's going to be all about his team stealing scenes from him, so quit yer whinin'!
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I personally think Out of Sight was his best, a totally fucking AMAZING flick from beg to end. I mean, that last scene where Mr. Cool himself shows up at the end, that was just icing on the cake. But besides that, his other films were very good aswell. Sex, Lies... was good, Underneath was even better. I mean, Soderbergh got a good performance from the babysitter chick (Shue) before she did LLV. Erin was pretty good too. However, I felt that The Limey was pretty much overrated. Yes Mr.Stamp was AWESOME in his restricted performance and there were many moments of coolness as in the scene where The limey throws that bodyguard off the balcony in the background. I also liked the flashbacks and even Lesley Ann Warren. But the thing that sort of ruined the movie for me was Peter Fonda's character. Now as an actor he is very good, but I really didn't buy his character. The act that he committed wasn't really explained that much and he basically showed no emotion after the fact. The only thing we saw on his face was fear. The guy was a fucking coward hiding behind his so-called army. What's the use of putting such a bad-ass motherfucker against a pussy-whipped snob ???? Besides this, I felt that the shootout at the end of the movie wasn't really needed. After all the off-screen violence, it was a total contradiction to show the killing of each of the henchmen ON SCREEN. But still, the movie was in noway horrible as the movies that are out in the theatre right now. By the way, have any of you seen a movie called KAFKA ?? I believe it was in black and white with Jeremy Irons. I only saw a part of this, and what I saw was exactly what was in my mind when I was reading The Trial or Metamorphosis. I think it's safe to say that Kafka COULD be Soderbergh's best movie.
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Jun 28, 2000 1:39:07 PM CDT
They're not the Rat Pack, so who cares if they remake a film lik
by superninja
I actually like the idea of a '90s time capsule of some of the coolest cats of this generation. The Rat Pack ain't going anywhere...there's no way to erase the chemistry those guys had or to even duplicate it. But what we've got here are some very wonderful actors, a great director, and a fun little story all set in sleazy Las Vegas. That's going to be the best part, if Soderberg can bring back some of that old school glamour to that dirt-hole.
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Harry, fathergeek, someone at the controls: there's trouble in the talkbacks, damit! Why do they get all shuffled around out of order like this? What can be done to restore the order of the universe? It's no fun reading the verbal pokes and jabs and witty ripostes in non-sequential sequence (well maybe its some fun, more than doing my job at work, anyway, but less fun than it should be). Oh, and Soderbergh is really a top-drawer director. Someone mentioned Kafka - nicely done, catches the mood of the writing well, Irons is great. If you can, find Schizopolis - I think he made it independently (don't know the story behind the scenes) but it is odd and bizarre and thoroughly enjoyable, unlike anything else he's done. That's all. Over&out
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...I just love telling Gilmour to fuck off when he says stupid shit like that. Can you blame me?
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Those of you participating in the Clooney discussion seem to mostly be male, and the Y chromosome isn't your fault, so I suppose you should be forgiven,but you are completely missing the point. George has so much sex appeal, he practically smolders, especially in Out of Sight. And if you think Hollywood, or even film in general, isn't all about sex, Freud would have a field day with you.
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re-read what I wrote & realized it came out a little wrong: didn't mean "odd and bizarre and thoroughly enjoyable, unlike anything else he's done" to sound like anything else he's done isn't thoroughly enjoyable, just that this particular one (Schizopolis) is different than anything else from Soderbergh (or anyone, really). And an extremely odd thing about that movie: no credits. None. which leads me to presume he did it himself, his own damn way, probably with his own damn money. And I loved it. If anyone knows the story behind Schizopolis, I'd like to know more. OK. Over&out all over again.
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A little "Piece of the Action" tough talk there, as per my new gangster persona. Just testing it though, no need to cower. Yet. Actually, Zeno, your defense of "The Limey" is quite well-reasoned, even...thoughtful (curiously). As you say, if it doesn't impact me, it doesn't impact me, but based on your testimonial, I'll approach it with an open mind again someday, maybe the week before "Ocean's Eleven" for the sake of synchronicity. For the record, you're clear on the plagiarism front as well. According to my high-priced lawyers (curse their oily hides), your use of dissolves differentiates your flashbacks sufficiently from Cormorant Classics to get you off on a technicality. Dammit. On the other hand, calling me "Cormy"...that's a good way to end up wearin' concrete galoshes, if ya take my meaning. Right, Spock-o? Riiight.
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Have you guys heard that Julia's doing this flick for 20 dollars? Something about her and George Clooney having some fun and... who really cares, this movie sounds amazing. I've never seen the original but Frank Sinatra makes me drool so maybe I might.
I'm just scared with this amazing cast it might be another "Mars Attacks"....
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What the hell is so great about erin brockovich, the limey and out of sight anyways? they suck! Soderberg is a hack!!!
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Again, your opinion is meaningless because we're all well aware of your diminished mental capacities. You have no friends here. Begone!
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Gilmour's the biggest idiot on this site by a wide margin. We here on the Fox lot always have a good chuckle over his imbecilic yammerings.
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Most of you are the biggest jackoffs anyways, pretending like you actually know alot about movies. YOU KNOW NOTHING!!!!
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That would be "a lot." Two words, not one. Of course, I wouldn't expect a slack-jawed moron as yourself to know such a thing.
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You took the time to reply for that? hahah. geeze get out of your parents basement and get a life.
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Yet you wasted precious brain cells that you should be stockpiling to keep your job as a fluffer in the gay porn industry to level a tired "get out of your parent's basement" insult? Sounds like a case of Idi Amin calling Pol Pot a tyrant.
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Oh and "fluffer in the porn industry" isn't tired? How many hours of reading did you do to come up with that last line? Our whole argument started over me insulting that pathetic chick flick Erin Brockovich now go away little man.
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How dare you attempt to match wits with me. You would do well to submit to me your cheapened manhood, rather than carry on in such a peevish manner. I will await, then, your surrender, my petulant little schoolgirl.
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as a long time Sinatra fan,I was excited about this film from the first....
To hear that Bruce Willis is going to be cast is music to my ears!
He is easily one of the most unerrated actors in recent time!
probably get some heat for that,but if we only have like ten leading men in hollywood (a true shame!)
then I'd have to pick Bruce!!
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