June 1, 2000, 11:15 p.m. CST
was better then the first but not the second trailer.
June 1, 2000, 11:18 p.m. CST
The music on the trailer is stuff from "The X-Files" movie and "Dark City". As for the trailer, the dramatic aspects seem like they could work, the action is another story altogether... I have always had faith in Singer since I first heard he was gonna do the project and I'm still cautiously optimistic. To say that this trailer probably gives the best sense yet of what the actual movie would be like is not not really say anything compared to the unfinished messes that were the first two.
June 1, 2000, 11:22 p.m. CST
This is Brian Singer. The action will be good, but the really good stuff won't come across in the trailer. I wonder how much control the directors have in marketing the movies? Judging from some other decent movies that have had bizarre trailers that tend to poorly depict what the movie is actually about... I would have to say they have fairly little control over what the masses see before they pay their 7 bucks at the box office.
June 1, 2000, 11:26 p.m. CST
It took a while for me to download the file (A LOT of people must have been accessing Apple's network tonight to see it before everyone else). I thought it looked okay. They've added alot of the special effects now... and Wolverine is looking very cool! My only complaint is that last shot in the trailer. I thought the shot of Wolvie swinging on the Statue of Liberty's crown looked lame before! OH GOD! It looks soooo fake! It should be taken out of the final print. Thant's what I thought.
June 1, 2000, 11:30 p.m. CST
by user id indeed!
No,it's not.What the hell am I talking about?Three trailers almost seems like overkill,but it was well made.Me want more of Kitty Pryde.Now.Don't make me press....the BUTTON!!!Yeah,that's right.You heard me.No,you know what?Screw Pryde.I want Marrow.Leave it to an angry girl who looks like she's been in a serious car accident to click my castenets.Yes,let's see some more of Marrow.Well,it's late,and I'm tired,so goodnight,you princes of Boston,or whatever.I'd like to thank that guy for not spouting "I'm first!!".Ahem-thanks.There.Nighty night.This has been a Moment w/User "Nappy time"ID Indeed!
June 1, 2000, 11:35 p.m. CST
What movie is that? Dud just stands up and caps fishing Harry in the back of the head! I like the new xmen trailer myself. Thought wolverine looked right and cyclops blowing the top out of a building was cool.
June 1, 2000, 11:37 p.m. CST
...and the effect might look lame based on the fact that this is a Quicktime clip. - again, relax. it's just a trailer. and we all know trailers can make good movies look good or bad and they can make shitty movies look great. -Sertse
June 1, 2000, 11:40 p.m. CST
I wish someone would mirror this fucker, its changing between a 900k and 1kb transfer.. I'm not waiting 10 hours to download this. Its too slow.. but then again.. i want to see it, so i have no choice.
June 1, 2000, 11:41 p.m. CST
GODFATHER 2...Fredo's execution I believe (?)
June 1, 2000, 11:43 p.m. CST
i just downloaded the Zip file of the full-screen trailer in about 20 mins. over DSL - not bad for a 36MB file on a site that's being hit this hard.
June 1, 2000, 11:49 p.m. CST
what site is that kindly?
June 1, 2000, 11:50 p.m. CST
Hey the trailer looks coool! Harry's got a point, you know there's a weird feeling about this movie. I Hope fox isn't trying to kill it. Damn fox if their trying to screw us and this movie like the did with Buckaroo Banzai. Buckaroo Banzai had a great premise and seemed to have a shit load possible sequels (from the looks of a certain filing cabnet ALOT of them).
June 1, 2000, 11:50 p.m. CST
Whoa!! There's hope after all. The action in this trailer looks much better, and that last scene - the statue of libery fight - looks a million times better. However, the dramatic parts still look rather cheezy, but it IS a comic book movie after all. This trailer actually makes me want to see the movie unlike the horrible trailer 1. Anyway, rant is over, but please people, DO NOT GET YOUR EXPECTATIONS SO HIGH that will cause you to hate the movie.
June 1, 2000, 11:51 p.m. CST
Are you nuts!? I'm not a professional critic or anything like that but I know a good trailer when I see one and that trailer blew my ass away! Whats wrong with a whole bunch of images slashed across a screen, aren't most trailers like that? Whats wrong with the music for that matter even if it isn't from the movie? To tell you the truth this movie is coming out better than what I thought it was supposed to. Even If thats all the action in the entire movie I would be satisfied. Bryan Singer is the best at what he does and what he does he does it well, or somthing like that. Harry you sound way to negative guy. You've been watching way too many crappy sci-fi movies *coughing*BattleFieldEarth*coughing*, haven't you? Wait until you see the movie to pass your final judgment Mr. Geek Supreme. Btw, Fuck Fanastic Four, X-men will wipe it's ass with them and Ghost Rider. ;)
June 1, 2000, 11:52 p.m. CST
sorry, mmm_free_wig, i meant i'm on DSL & downloaded the file from the Apple site. my apologies for the confusion.
June 1, 2000, 11:54 p.m. CST
The trailer looked pretty good to me, although I never saw the first 2. I found the musc a little too Batman-ish and the Wolvie/Mystique fight scene very Matrix-like, but that was excusable. On the upside, there were numerous scenes that looked like they will effectively relay the mutants' powers to folks unfamiliar with the characters, while remaining visually captivating (especially where Magneto "takes" the guns). I'm hoping that the story will make the fighting believable, as anyone knows that a Mystique/Sabretooth/Toad combo would not last too long against Storm/Cyclops/Grey/Wolverine/Rogue. I think that combing discrimination with the Senator Kelley/corrupt politician undercurrent is going to allow people to easily relate to the film. Both are hot topics in American culture...
June 1, 2000, 11:55 p.m. CST
by Pips Orcille
Actually Harry, the music in this X-Men trailer is from Dark City. In DC, the music is constantly played throughout its running time (or rather when the buildings rise up). Dark City didn't do so well at the box office, yet the music is played in the X-Men trailer. I don't know about you, but I just get sick and tired of trailers using scores from other films. One of the reasons why I stopped playing the Frequency trailer when I first saw it, was because I couldn't stand the music. It's been overplayed in many trailers before and quite frankly, it annoys me. Now I know that it really isn't that important with trailer music, apparently to the studios that advertise their films, but it's more original to use a tune in the trailer that's actually composed in the movie itself. It individualizes movies for what they are. Every little detail in making and advertising a movie counts.
June 1, 2000, 11:55 p.m. CST
I have never gotten to see the Godfather films. I know... I suck, this makes me a freak. But I like to watch movies WITH people and my friends have the attention spans of nats. Fuck em. I'm gonna rent the first one this weekend.
June 1, 2000, 11:59 p.m. CST
by user id indeed!
I was about to go to bed,but how can I when all I need do is press the magical "Refresh" button,and there's instantly a new batch of messages?It's like a bottomless pit or something!This has never happened to me before...I'm intoxicated.This trailer was damned good to be sure,but I refuse to go see "Big Momma's House"just to see it.That's right,I have values-very few,but they're there in that cluttered mess of a skull.The above mention og Ghost Rider reminded me of that supposed Jan deBont sci fi movie Ghost Riders in the Sky.Y'know,the one that is currently burning in development hell over a lousy script?Bastards.I wanna see a cowboy with a death ray,dammit!Sorry.I also would've liked to see Blood Music,but there it is.NOW I'm going to bed.See you guys in the morning.This has been a Nighty Night For Real This Time Moment w/User ID Indeed!Party party good time!
June 2, 2000, 12:03 a.m. CST
I think the effect looked awesome. Are you talking about him catching himself on the statue with his claws? It looks awesome to me. And about the site's speed, I have a relatively slow cable (usually only 100-200kbytes/sec) and I am able to watch the entire fullscreen version without any prebuffering or anything, instantly. Try using the fullscreen one, maybe its a faster download.
June 2, 2000, 12:06 a.m. CST
yeah, thanks, my feeble brain managed to figure that out as soon as clicked send. Its down to 700 bytes a second.. I give up. Until a little bit later.
June 2, 2000, 12:09 a.m. CST
I like how Fox has given us more of a payoff for a lot of the scene setups from the first couple of trailers. I like getting to hear a bit more of the actual character dialog, even if Wolvie does seem to have more than a hint of australian in his speech. The CGI seems a bit unrefined in some places (I had to single-step my way through the Wolverine acrobatics at the end to figure out what was supposed to be happening), but I like what I see so far. I like how they attempted to really show in 3d how cyclop's vision would splay out without the visor. I just hope that some of these scenes are not so quick when the movie opens, otherwise I'm going to be looking for my pause button in the theater.
June 2, 2000, 12:11 a.m. CST
We've all had our grievances with this movie but it's like Harry and company want this film to tank. Every positive scoop I or my fellow webmasters have gotten and passed onto AICN, they purposefully haven't run. (But he'll run that bogus Shazam movie crap instead?!) Harry has only chosen to present a negative view of this film. We ran a positive review of the final shooting script over at IGN FilmForce last month yet AICN was the only major site that didn't run a story on it or even a simple link. A complete black-out. Instead, he ran this negative "Guido the killer pimp" scoop that could've been pieced together by anyone who'd seen the trailer or gleaned the plot from any number of synopsis sites. This report above was the only time I have seen Harry give this film a fighting chance. It just seems like there is a set agenda here to stick it to Fox no matter what. BTW, the musical score is from that MERLIN miniseries.
June 2, 2000, 12:12 a.m. CST
Who here agrees with me that Edward Norton woulda made a great Wolverine? Think of him in American History X....
June 2, 2000, 12:15 a.m. CST
I mean the dude's supposed to be an over 100 years old WWII vet badass and is being played by some little skinny boy who hasn't even grown into a voice yet. That's all I have against the movie, except for the obvious (Halle Barry? Vanessa Williams=perfect for Storm). Everything else looks great.
June 2, 2000, 12:35 a.m. CST
This trailer was definitely the best so far at semi-explaining what is going on in the movie, though some of the effects need to be cleaned up and I'm sure they are doing just that right now. I didn't find the dramatic scenes cheesy and the action is looking fairly good. The music is only temporary, since they haven't finished the score yet, and for that I am thankful. Otherwise a decent trailer. That scene of Wolverine on the Statue of Liberty needs to be fixed though, it looks completely fake and defies all logic.
June 2, 2000, 12:39 a.m. CST
It should have been Angela Basset dude! I like the Norton idea though... He woulda had to bulk up a bit. Hugh looks really good in my opinion. Like Wolverine did in his first four issue mini series before they got all fuckin' crazy with his hair and what not.
June 2, 2000, 12:42 a.m. CST
See a trailer for a comic book movie, complain that the director is getting to "real" and ditching out on the comic... And then bitch about the one actual comicbook wolvie leap because its "unrealistic". We RULE!!!
June 2, 2000, 12:43 a.m. CST
Harry, are you bonkers? I just saw the third trailer and it made me more excited than the first two. Stamos? Stewart? Singer? How can this not be getting a good vibe. I look at the promotion so far (i.e. the trailers and the political campaign commercial) and I am VERY excited to see this flick. And I've never followed the X-Men. It looks to me to an awesome movie with a great cast. Why are you so pessemistic about it? Who pissed you off? Get over it and judge it on it's merits. BTW, if you download the trailer in SIT or ZIP format it dl's much faster. Anyway, I'm gonna be first in line. Happy thoughts, Harry, Happy thoughts. I AM THE KEYMASTER!
June 2, 2000, 12:50 a.m. CST
June 2, 2000, 12:51 a.m. CST
Screw whoever panned that trailer! I'm usually not a fanatic about this stuff, but if Harry hates it then it must be GOOD. In essence, he can bounce his flabby ass back along and get a job he's actually qualified for. In the 3rd X-Men trailer, I can actually see stuff that looks like.....dare I say it...PLOT! As for people thinking that some stuff goes by way too fast....In context it probably all makes sense. I remember first watching the trailer for the Matrix and wondering, "What the FUCK is going on here? What just happened? This makes no sense." HOWEVER....when I finally saw the Matrix, it all made sense and felt right since the movie built up to that frantic pace. I was completely blown away. I, like most people, needed time for my brain and eyes to adjust to the directing vision and bouncy cinematic style. OBVIOUSLY, the same thing will be the case with the X-Men. I think that when scenes are dramatic, story-wise, they will be appropriately slow. BUT...When they are meant to be action packed, prepare for sensory overload. MY REVIEW OF THE TRAILER: This is by far the BEST of the 3 trailers! The teaser only gave us a glimpse of the X-World. The second trailer gave up a glimpse into who these characters are. This 3rd trailer actually showed up that the characters have depth and that an actual plot exists. For WHOEVER said that the Kitty Pryde phasing effect looks fake.....GET A LIFE! FIRST OFF: There are only so many ways to do that phasing SFX shot. In lieu of that, it can only look certain ways. SECONDLY: The award for the worst "phasing" effect ever goes to the movie Ghost. Did anybody really believe that Patrick Swayze was a damn ghost? It sucked primo ass (the movie and the SFX.) THIRDLY, let's use a bit of psychological analysis here. Our rational mind KNOWS that people just don't move through walls. We're used to a little thing called physics. When we see some chick walk through a wall we say, "Well that can't be right!" That's the way the mind works. Overall THE SFX LOOK _VERY_ WELL DONE. I think that most people bitched about Halle's accent only because it seems like it came from the X-Men CARTOON. That I can live with, as long as it's fairly consistent. I think that this movie looks great. Comic book loonies, like most of you trolls, will come out from under their bridges and bitch and moan no matter what. HAVE AN OPEN MIND. All I can say is that I'll shell out my $9 no matter what you dinks say. I think that Ian McKellen looks truly sinister with his portrayal of Magneto. Personally, I like that fight scene between Wolverine and Mystique. It has that "Wire-Fu"-like hangtime that made the Matrix a blast! FINALLY, the Statue of Libery scene looks dramatic. THIS IS A COMIC BOOK FILM, suspension of disbelief is a mandatory requirement. Do people really have claws? HELL NO! Do people have long-ass, whip-like tongues? NO WAY! (Except for Gene Simmons of Kiss, natch.) Can older men make shotguns float in the air? Only if they've confused their Viagra with LSD. Frankly, after the last 2 shitty Batman movies, I was _really_ skeptical of ALL COMIC-BASED FILMS. After reading hundreds of pages and having seen dozens of pics, plus the trailers of the X-Men movie, I can only say that my FAITH HAS BEEN RESTORED. Wake up people! This is not another Captain America or Punisher crapfest. It is certianly NOT another Howard the Duck. My prediction is that this movie will make $200mil here in the US. Entertainment Weekly suggested $140mil, but I think that it'll score more. People are bound to see it twice. PLUS, the Mutant Watch "campaign" is stirring up unprecedented controversy. There's really no such thing as bad press.
June 2, 2000, 12:52 a.m. CST
Maybe it would be guicker to download it, instead of dwonloading it, at home....? :-) Nice typo...GG
June 2, 2000, 12:57 a.m. CST
June 2, 2000, 12:58 a.m. CST
You can actually download the new x-men trailer at www.movie-list.com
June 2, 2000, 1 a.m. CST
Have to agree with most of the folks here..., the trailer was very promising, although Wolvie spends an inordinate amount of time getting his ass kicked. I thought Magneto re-pointing the guns was brilliant, the phasing thing appropriate to the narration, the dual optic beams merging was pretty neat, and Mystique's transformation was awsome except right at the beginning, before the transform, she looks like a manequinn. I do agree that the last scene sucked. I slomo'd it to figure out what was going on and noticed HUGE gaps in Wolvie's movement. All in all though it looked good. More action than I was expecting. Here's hoping that indication actually means something. Peace through random violence.
June 2, 2000, 1:04 a.m. CST
Again Harry amazes me. The trailer looked good and I
June 2, 2000, 1:12 a.m. CST
Now I've got something to look forward to in the theaters this summer! Other than Chicken Run that is. And the monkey in my head tells me this movie's gonna be WAY better than any BATMAN or SUPERMAN "film" those lugnuts at WB toss our way. Other than BATMAN BEYOND: RETURN OF THE JOKER that is. STRENGTH AND HONOR!!!
June 2, 2000, 1:20 a.m. CST
by honeys dead
My buddy, not being an X-Men fan, said that from what he saw during filming and what was already available for him to view looked awesome. He did alote of blue screen and stuff on the Harley, hit the turbo boosters, 250mph gust of wind in his face stuff. Now think about it though, a full week of pickups? The film had to have sucked big time to justify all those new shots and complete scenes. I will take his word for it, not being an X-Men fan either myself, and go see the film.
June 2, 2000, 1:27 a.m. CST
As far as I can tell all the music in this trailer was from Dark City and the Fluke song "Atom Bomb".
June 2, 2000, 1:50 a.m. CST
by Sobakawa Pillow
...and took names :) Why? Because it did. Everyone's entitled to their own opinions... Harry has his (which is fine and dandy) this is the Pillow's. Why? We DO NOT need another Joel Schumacher Batman & Robin; as for continuity in a trailer--MI:2 had that... and look what happened to the finished product! I could've came in the movie about half way through and would've got the same results!!! Why? Bryan Singer has proven that he can handle an ensemble cast (watch Usual Suspects again). Why? The 'ending' is WORLDS better than the previous one (that everyone bitched about). Try watching it Frame by Frame to get an idea of what's going on. 2 Words folks. OPEN MIND.
June 2, 2000, 1:52 a.m. CST
anyone else have problems playing the trailer. Right at the scene with the demonstrators with signs and some guy with a sign of something dead and bleeding, whatever I'm running (so far its IE4 and QT4), it crashes. I have to manually jump over this spot, or it happens. And Ive D/L-ed the trailer 4 times. I would try to find the trailer elsewhere, but I want to get the best size one. Anyone else have this glitch in their trailer?
June 2, 2000, 1:57 a.m. CST
Woo-hoo! Oh man, oh man, oh man, I love this new trailer! The shot of Magneto floating above the Statue of Liberty before he wipes-out New York, the view of Logan's skeleton (claws included), Kitty Pryde running through a door to get to class on time, Toad knocking Cyclops' visor off, causing him to flatten Grand Central Station and expose him as a mutant, Wolverine using his CLAWS to do that flip on Lady Liberty's crown. . . and so on, and so on! YEAH!!! I'm gonna love this movie! I can't get enough! I think I'll go watch the trailer 100 more times (75 more times in slow-motion)! (Not having a life of my own has its perks. . . seriously!)
June 2, 2000, 2:01 a.m. CST
..but I'm not gonna examine this one through a microscope. Release date is comin' up and it's time to do everything I can to forget what I've seen so I can go into the movie with a fresh mind. Judging by the previews, I see a lot of promise - the potential for a good (maybe great) first attempt at a superhero team movie. Must admit, Harry seems to be looking for something bad to find in a pretty excellent trailer. Anyway, I'm sold. Opening night all the way, baby!
June 2, 2000, 2:03 a.m. CST
Mystique's foot goes THROUGH the Senator's head. Freeze the view on the scene where she morphs on the plane and kicks him back. Yup, there's her foot, all the way through his head. That's GOTTA hurt.
June 2, 2000, 2:07 a.m. CST
I don't think anyone really knows wtf is going on in that last shot, but let me say this. It is not retarded, it's just extremely quick, and it skips some frames. You see someone being blasted out of the statue of liberty, I don't believe that is him. I thought someone said before that storm whisks him up there. Anyways.... My only fear is with some of the fight scenes looking to much like they're on wires, like the Mystique/Logan fight... I don't ever remember seeing logan do a forward flip and nailing someone with his feet... it's just not his style I don't think. Also when talking to Rogue, he sounds to...soft. He says things like a guidance counselor, yet he should be talking very monotonous and deep, like a army general, yet compassionate. Ah well, I just love Wolverine so I want him to be perfect. This film looks very good, i'm digging the storyline, and the characters.
June 2, 2000, 2:17 a.m. CST
That's great news. This movie's been my tossup when friends ask me, "So what do you think of the X-Men movie coming up?" I usually pause, make a confused look, and go, "Ehh. I don't know. It could go either way." May this trailer put my faith back into this movie. I'm about 60% through the download. About ten more minutes and I'll feast.
June 2, 2000, 2:20 a.m. CST
Harry, you and I usually see eye to eye but not this time. That was a damn fine trailer. The music rocks as much now, as it did in Dark City. The acting is good, Storm's accent is not the annoying crap everyone has been mentioning, and the effects look perfect. As for the "passing through the door" shot, who the heck knows what that would look like in reality. It looks great. Patrick Stewart will be worth the cost of an adult nighttime admission.
June 2, 2000, 2:28 a.m. CST
Film composers cannot complete the film score until they see the final product (or a reasonably close to final product). For this reason trailers often use pre-existing music. Haven't you ever tried to find a piece of music on a film soundtrack that never made it into the movie? How many fools tried to find that damn Enya song on the soundtrack to that damn "1492" movie? It played all over the trailer but wasn't featured in the movie. (Pardon the awful example...it was the first that jumped into my head). And please people.. just relax. All of this "it will suck, it rocks, it will suck" back and forth is making me dizzy. The film looks great. It will have action, it will have drama, it will have bits you will love, it will have bits you will hate. But it is being made and it isn't going to be an embarrassment. For that we should be thankful.
June 2, 2000, 2:34 a.m. CST
Everything looks promising to me in these trailers except for the spinning shots where they're so obviously on wires. Wolverine and Mystique fighting....oh man...what's with these slow, hanging in the air, flips to attack with? How is that useful? And these characters still exist in our world's physics...neither Mystique or Wolverine can hover in the air or anything, so it may draw some laughter as they appear to look like stiff action figures that are being spun through the air. Don't you think?
June 2, 2000, 2:37 a.m. CST
I have no qualms about the score used. I had no problem with the special effects. And am I the only one who dug that last shot? If you do a frame-by-frame, it's actually pretty detailed and well done. At least it's different! My favorite shot in this trailer was hands down, that pan around Magneto. Sure it's been done before, but it looked very cool! Especially in a comic book movie, that's where it makes a strong impact. Overall, I thought this trailer was very good. Will it make the movie any better? More than likely, no. But it'll get my ass in the theater this summer. I also dug the drama. This may not be what all the X-men freaks had hoped for, but we can be assured it's not another Captain America.
June 2, 2000, 2:37 a.m. CST
Did anyone else notice a few shots in the Wolverine/Mystique fight where Wolverine appears to be fighting himself? Mystique must have morphed into him. If you go through it frame by frame you can definitely see two clawed Wolverines fighting. Cool.
June 2, 2000, 2:59 a.m. CST
Waited all night for trailer. Watched trailer. Read Harry's comments. Read Talkbacks. Watched trailer again. Read new talkbacks. Watched trailer again, paying special attention to special effects and seeing if people are flying around on wires. Realized I enjoy listening to Napster downloaded Bernard Hermann songs while reading talkbacks more than I actually liked watching trailer. Not thrilled by visual style. Felt guilty for not liking it more. Wrote Talkback. Going to bed.
June 2, 2000, 3 a.m. CST
Those scenes can't be The Matrix ripoffs, as that is a style that is used by many filmmakers, and is generally attributed to John Woo. The Matrix wasn't the first movie to use this style.
June 2, 2000, 3:39 a.m. CST
The more I hear and see of this film, the more I am convinced that we are going to see a very good, if not great, film. I am sure that Bryan Singer should issue a personal apology to Harry that X-Men will not fit Mr. Knowles' personal vision for the lovable mutants, but the rest of us will just be able to sit back and enjoy, I hope. As for Fox not backing the film, the Senator Kelly campaign is genius, and I think three trailers and a truckload of media coverage for the film more than suffices. Fox clearly don't want to over-saturate the coverage for the film to the point where people are sick of it before it opens. Trust Bryan Singer, trust Fox...come July 14th, and August 18th for we Brits, X-Men will answer all but a very few critics with closed minds. Yes, Harry, I mean you...
June 2, 2000, 4:19 a.m. CST
by WeirdAl Einstein
It seemed like there were a lot of shots that already appeared in the first two trailers, and I can't figure out why. It wasn't to preserve the coherency of the trailer, because the whole thing was, as has already been said, a heap of broken images. The new shots were, in most cases, cool, but I think this trailer was just to keep the hype machine going. That all having been said, I'm seeing this movie as soon as possible, in the hope that the good aspects shown in the numerous trailers actually come through on screen.
June 2, 2000, 5:39 a.m. CST
One good sign is that I didn't cringe at the dialogue! So the effects stuff and choreography won't ruin the film for me if it's not on the level of ILM. Just one film with a solid plot, believable acting and good storyetelling and I'll be happy with the film.
June 2, 2000, 6:08 a.m. CST
by WeirdAl Einstein
After watching it again, one more thing - the fireworks in the background as Wolverine does his one-handed wire-aided Statue of Liberty crown spin? They realllly should have resisted the temptation.
June 2, 2000, 6:39 a.m. CST
Why the hell don't they release trailers in Mpeg format??? I don't get it! How much is Apple paying Hollywood? I'm trying to find a damned nice Mpeg trailer to play in my Unix machine at work and NOTHING is out! Not even Chicken Run or the second X-Men trailer or Gladiator or Patriot or any of these nice QT trailers that the Apple website has... Can anybody point me to a Mpeg trailer? I'm bored here...
June 2, 2000, 6:50 a.m. CST
I don't know about the rest of you but I'm excited at the prospects of actually seeing a comic adaption in which the characters actually FIGHT! I always felt the fight sequences in Superman (except a few moments in 2) and Batman sucked hard. Especially considering what these things always looked like in my mind. All-in-all I think good things about what we've seen so far. Obviously a trailer is designed to generate as much excitement as possible, especially for a summer popcorn movie, which this most certainly is. As for FOX dumping XMen, ya gotta be kinding right? They've spent waaaay too much on this flick to just dump it into the sea. And as for the "fake" effect of Kitty passign through the wall...remember the effects on this film are not completed yet. It can only get better. I was on the fence after the first 2 trailers...now I'm really starting to believe this film might actually rock hard! (From my mouth to the ears of God.)
June 2, 2000, 6:58 a.m. CST
You realize, of course, that most of the things you criticize about the "X-Men" trailer are elements common to EVERY modern trailer? ALL movies with multiple trailers re-use some scenes. Keeps the audience from seeing too much and plays up the scenes the producers think are the most enticing. Also, ALL trailers are made up of broken images. Maybe the first "X-Men" trailer was jumbled, but I think the second and third have done a pretty good job of suggesting the plot without giving too much away. Lastly, ALL trailers exist to "keep the hype machine going," which you criticize "X-Men" trailer for. That's the very reason trailers exist, man! They're advertisements for movies! Anyway, if your criticisms are broad enough to describe every single modern trailer in existence...well, they don't seem like very good criticisms to me.
June 2, 2000, 7:11 a.m. CST
by Giant Fish
This project just keeps getting better. When I first heard they were casting British character actors opposite supermodels, it didn't seem too promising. Then the first teaser was almost as bad as the Pantene ad for Charlie's Angels; the project looked like a new Avengers. But then, the two last trailers show that serious treatment is given to characters, story and respect for the original material. As comic adaptations go, this might turn out to be as good as Superman 2 and Batman Returns. As for the reshoots, it is't neccessarily a bad thing. Sometimes, things that worked well in planning and shooting don't click in the editing room. (I've made a few short films who were crap, and two who worked fine due to reshoots.) I choose to interpret the reshoots as a sign of modesty and commitment from Singer. Still not crazy about the leather suits, though.
June 2, 2000, 7:17 a.m. CST
by Mr Angry
I just wanted to clear that up. -Mr. Angry
June 2, 2000, 7:21 a.m. CST
by Mr Angry
Loved the part where toad grabs Cyclops' glasses with his toungue. -Mr. Angry
June 2, 2000, 7:35 a.m. CST
by Oliver Platt
That trailer f-ing rocked!! What else do you need? And BTW I thought the scene at the end was incredible. This goes up as one of the top 5 trailers ever in my book. I can't wait till July 14......
June 2, 2000, 7:44 a.m. CST
Well, I think I was the first to d/l the 3rd trailer, been watching that page since 10 CST, I even did it twice because I couldn't save the full screen one for future viewing. Anyways, nice review Moriarty, you definitely read my mind. Harry is also right in that if X-Men doesn't reach or even exceeds FOX's expectation, you won't be seeing Kitty, Gambit or the Fantastic Four on the big screen, at least not any time soon. So whatever your feeling is to the movie, support it one way or another, I'm sure we'll be rewarded with the possibilities of other main stream comic showing up in the big screen...
June 2, 2000, 7:49 a.m. CST
Wolverine did most of the dialouges, and there are plenty of shots with him in it. I had no opinion of Hugh Jackman when he was cast as Wolverine, but he's looking better and better, he'll make a fine Wolvie in my book. Plus there is a lot of scenes with Wolverine and Rouge, the smoky scene with Rouge in it was pretty cool also, I wonder what it means though...
June 2, 2000, 7:54 a.m. CST
by WeirdAl Einstein
I can't argue that some of the things I mentioned are common to every trailer, and I can't argue that trailers exist as advertisements for movies, but I suppose it struck me as wrong that there were so many scenes I've seen before in the "new" trailer that was so agressively hyped. Yeah, the new scenes rocked, and yeah, I'm going to see the movie. My criticisms were about the structure of the trailer, not the content or the movie behind it. And my main criticism, that this trailer is disjointed and quick, still stands. The trailers do reveal something of the plot of "good vs. evil", but come on, it's pretty simple.
June 2, 2000, 7:57 a.m. CST
I have felt the same overly pessimistic attitude from this site in regards to X-Men, since the beginning. There has been a decent amount of coverage, but all in the vein,(especially from Harry) of :' Iiiii Don't knooow aboout this..." I realize of course, that comes down to the keeper's opinions, but this is almost ridiculous. It seems as if he is trying to break the film, just to see if he can. Whatta you think Harry, is that what's up????Because just like anyone else who read X-men or Wolverine, this is stuff of dreams. When Wolverine gasps with Rogue! and the shot of him walking from behind when his claws pop!!! How about Cyclops running in the hallway! Beautiful. And so much has been said on the GCS Toad scene: For great reason...the muted smack of Toads tongue (which looks cool) this whole scene was so strange it gave me chills. Something, an agenda, very personal to those two, to expose him as a Mutant and cause human casualty. It was eerie and incredible. The black bird!!!!!! I can't believe Tyler Mayne looks so right as Sabretooth, that snow scene is fab...Tres chic Mr. Singer!!!!! Just awesome. I truly can't wait...with the exception of Virgin Suicides and Small Time Crooks.. this season has been so miserable for movies.. The X-Men is sure to be something very very special.
June 2, 2000, 7:59 a.m. CST
Mr. Moriarty, sir, you have good taste. My anticipation for this movie just keeps on growing with every new tidbit that I see. Enough with the trailers and magazine articles, though. I want to see the actual movie now! Oh, and Harry, awesome animated image today! Is it an homage to Godfather II??? Love it! -- Nick
June 2, 2000, 8:04 a.m. CST
Look again, pal. Mystique kicks Senator Kelly with one foot, while the other holds his head in place for maximum impact. Right......the fire works were PERFECT...I never thought the optic blast could look so marvelous. Like the pure plasma that it is...so thick and concentrated...sort of like he's cumming....mmm wow. I can't wait.
June 2, 2000, 8:25 a.m. CST
Mystique looks like she learned how to fight from a 30-year old supernatural-flying-ninja movie. Ah well, it's the fashion, I guess. As for Kitty walking through the wall, the special effect is secondary. What's important is the confused look on Logan's face, and that is first rate. The sort of splashing effect of Cyclops's optic blasts is cool, it has an organic look to it. It still looks to be a fun movie.
June 2, 2000, 8:33 a.m. CST
Stuck behind my firewall, I haven't seen the 3rd one, but trailer #2... it absolutely rocked. On every conceivable level. There's so many reaons to like this, but number one is storm's wig.... plutonium blonde. oh my. [cryptic spoiler ahead...] So this foot through the head... does this happen before or after Kelly gets put through the machine?
June 2, 2000, 8:39 a.m. CST
I found the trailer maddening.Little snippets of scenes,characters,and action;Yummy!Just enough to whet the appetite..to wish for MORE DAMNNIT!I want to see this movie more than ever now.While the editing was rather staccato,at least I didn't feel that I saw the whole movie,i.e.'The Astronuts wife'(why pay?the whole movie WAS the trailer!).I never read 'The X-Men' comic books,but I do remember the cartoon from a few years back when on Halloween little kids dressed up as Wolverine.I do so hope the 'X-Men' movie does well...I DID faithfully read the 'Fantastic Four' comics,and am looking forward to the movie....
June 2, 2000, 8:40 a.m. CST
Incidentally, if Cyclop's Optic Blast really does 'look like he's cumming' ((c) lickerish 2000) then that explains the MPAA's urge to censor it in the trailers. Lock up your children: it's the most powerful money shot known to man!
June 2, 2000, 8:46 a.m. CST
by Ambush Bug
Can this be true? Has Harry gone over to the Dark Side and joined the ranks of the X-Bashers? Say it ain't so. I myself am reserving judgement until opening day. I have seen some pretty horrible trailers turn into great films. From what I have been hearing about Shadow of the Vampire, this is a good example of bad trailer/good movie. This trailer rocks and I can't wait to see the film. I'm not looking at anything else X-Men until the movie is released. Hopefully all of the good parts aren't in the trailer. It is good to see that as I am scrolling down the talkbacks that there are very few negative comments. It is so cool that these X-Bashers have cowered away in their basements and are dining on their own words since the trailers came out. I could give a shit less about Wolverine's flip. It's one shot. It doesn't even look that bad and it is a major improvement from the wire flip around the crown from the first trailer. I can't wait to see this film and to all of you out there who are itching to say I told you so if the movie sucks after its release. I don't care. From what I have seen, the movie looks good. Screw the leather costume and Halle Berry criticisms, this could be a very special and important movie for comic book fanboys and film geeks. The success or demise of this film will determine if we will see some of our other favorite comics come to life, so you better hope it will be good.
June 2, 2000, 8:57 a.m. CST
To each his own, but I think the trailer showed a *little* bit more than just "good vs. evil". It lets the audience know that the super-powered folks of the X-Men's world are born of genetic mutation. It reveals that mutants are a very political topic, and that Senator Kelly may be as dangerous an opponent as Magneto. It tells the audience that Professor Xavier has set up a school to take in mutants and train them, and that he forms a mission force against some shadowy plan of Megneto's. That's a decent bit of information I think, though you may disagree about how clearly it was imparted. As for the re-use of scenes, heh, consider the case of "Mission: Impossible 2". When Harry posted the second or third trailer with quite a bit of fanfare, I remember a bunch of very disappointed Talkbackers who could barely tell the difference between the new trailer and the old one. At least with this new "X-Men" trailer, there were a number of scenes I could easily identify as new. Ah well, we're both gonna see it, so who cares if we disagree over the specifics of the trailer? I'm tellin' ya, I'm pumped. Pumped for the first chance since Burton's "Batman" for superheroes to make a splash on the big screen.
June 2, 2000, 9:03 a.m. CST
by SeVen Higgins
Someone is pissy like a little bitch because Singer didn't send a limo to pick a certain Fatass up for a private screening. And judging from some of you peoples posts, you make abortion seems justifiable. What the fuck do you want? The whole movies played out for you in Quicktime?
June 2, 2000, 9:04 a.m. CST
OK, I'm not too big into computers. Someone tell me how to save the 480 resolution-ed version. Why has Apple decided to make it so fucking difficult? Some of the trailers are savable, and others aren't. Shit, I even bought the Quicktime Pro package when it was first offered two years ago, and it still won't save. What is the deal, dogs? Oh well. Their quality is getting pretty good. Everyone must admit that they've been nailing the compression on these things down pretty tight. Ever since TPM came out for download through Apple, everyone was been taking their trailers to them.
June 2, 2000, 9:05 a.m. CST
I spelled Magneto as "Megneto" in my previous post. Sounds like the name of his niece or something. Next thing ya know, I'll be spelling Rogue as "Rouge", and then where will we be?
June 2, 2000, 9:24 a.m. CST
Harry, I know how you feel, I too am scared about the this movie, because it comes too close to the dreams we have all had for a really successful translation of a comic book. My dream was the completion of the Terry Gillian project of "Watchman", but without it, this movie comes as close to telling a comic book story about super powered people as anyone has ever attempted. This movie has more than the pressure of X-Fans weighting it down. It has the future of serious super hero translations in its hands. This movie is the gateway back from the abyss that Joel Shockmonkey and his nipply Batman dragged us into. So we care how good it is and we don't want more of those bad decisions like the second Bat-car or Batgirl not having red hair or the entire cast to B&R save Alfred. If this movie didn't mean as much as it does for all these reasons, if let's say the trailer for Mystery Men looked this good, we would think "Wow this looks good! I would like to see this!" I liked the trailer, but just like the second one I needed to see it a few times to get into it. I think that unlike most trailers, Brian cuts it up so much to save the movie from the "show all the best in the trailer" syndrome. I think he doesn't want to give us more than he has to, to get us into the theatre. So, let's all take a deep breath, stop complaining about who would have been better as Wolverine or Storm, let go and believe as long as we can. If the movie doesn't work, we can mourn later. Let's not ruin the date by wishing she was a supermodel, or worrying about how good the sex will be.
June 2, 2000, 9:35 a.m. CST
I have to go with Moriarty here. The third trailer ROCKS THE CASBAH. I think it's a great introduction to the X-Men premise for non-fanboys, and it also has lots of cool stuff for those of us who are veteran foot soldiers in the MMMS. I, also, am cautiously optimistic that this could be the movie I've been waiting for all these years. What I want to know is: Who's the flatscan who decided that I have to wait until THE MIDDLE OF FREAKIN' JULY to see this thing?!?!
June 2, 2000, 9:35 a.m. CST
by ol' painless
Harry, you're a man with a hard heart: that final shot was GREAT - I had to watch it several times to see everything that was going on, and that's a compliment, by the way. The trailer was excellent. I'm no real X-Men fan, but it got my juices flowing. No, not like that.
June 2, 2000, 9:42 a.m. CST
I have to say, I get chills every time I see this third trailer. It's more intense, darker, puts us deeper into the heart of the battle. I think this will be more drama than action. I do wish they didn't edit to be moving so fast towards the end. It's like 1 sec glimpses. Good thing we can do frame by frame in quicktime. The magnitude does seem great, hopefully the end product will live up to the trailer expectations.
June 2, 2000, 9:44 a.m. CST
Oh and seeing Toad doing more in this trailer was awesome! The ship is freakin wild!
June 2, 2000, 9:49 a.m. CST
by Smilin'Jack Ruby
I am now officially looking forward to seeing "X-Men." I know that there's the gonzo idea about judging a movie by its marketing, but I am starting to really, really want to see the flick now.
June 2, 2000, 10:02 a.m. CST
by Ambush Bug
Singer probably had nothing to do with the editing of the trailer. Some ad guys have done a pretty good job of cutting together some quick snippets of action and dialog. The jury is still out on whether Singer can do action. From what I have seen so far, he's done a pretty good job. I, too, can't wait for this film.
June 2, 2000, 10:04 a.m. CST
I don't mean to nitpick, but I have one small problem with the last shot. I hope this is just a minor CGI problem, that won't be duplicated in the rest of the film. It's where you see Wolverine flipping around the spike. Of course it's an entirely digital character, until you see him standing on the spike. But even so, they could have made it better. In doing a shot-by-shot, the character they drew looks NOTHING like the real thing. It's too thin, no hair spikes, and no definition in the clothing. A minor, yet obvious, trying-to-be-to-fancy of a shot that didn't come through. (I did like the fireworks however.) Although they use an obstruction to hide the transition, the differences are still apparent. Not Singer's fault, just a rushed job by the F/X company I think, since the rest of the trailer is spectacular. (Unfortunately on DVD or the big screen these CGI flaws may be more discernable.)
June 2, 2000, 10:24 a.m. CST
Damn this Trailer 3, I can't stop watching it! I should be working. I gotta say I believe. I believe Ian McKellen (who I thought might be too old) IS Magneto. Patrick Steware DEFINETELY IS Xavier. Hugh Jackman DEFINETELY IS Wolverine. Tyler Mane DEFINETELY IS Sabretooth. (How can he not be?) I'm also liking Park as Toad, Paquin as Rogue, and Marsden as Cyclops. But July, boy is that a long time to wait.
June 2, 2000, 10:31 a.m. CST
Looks to me like Mystique's holding Kelly with one foot (wrapped around his neck to the back of his head), and slapping him silly with the other one. Very cool lookin' trailer. July 14th is just too far away!
June 2, 2000, 11:03 a.m. CST
I agree with both of them entirely. While Harry hasn't really gone all out and slammed this movie in so many words, he has implied it with his sly little 'hedge my bets either way' and 'sitting on the fence' comments. I remember when 'X-Men' first started moving into production last year and Harry seemed genuinely excited. Then, his enthusiasm waned and he hardly made any mention of it, even stating that the first trailer made him 'excited about any summer movie right now except this one'. Yeah right. It seems as if Harry is really a fanboy unhappy with the changes made to shift the X-Men from comic to film. Just my thoughts.
June 2, 2000, 11:08 a.m. CST
The third trailer for X-MEN KICKS so much ASS that it's not even funny. The images and effects are FUCKING AWESOME and brand new. The way I was going to judge this movie was if the trailers could match the trailers for THE MATRIX then I would know the movie could be GREAT. Well after seeing the final trailer for X-MEN, all I can say is this movie is going to ROCK. I love the music in THE MATRIX trailers (you know, the one that was also on THE LONG KISS GOODNIGHT). I also love the music on the X-MEN trailer (thanks Moriarty for letting us know it was from DARK CITY). X-MEN will be the movie of the summer. I'm almost glad it wasn't predicted to be the number one movie of the summer like MISSION:IMPOSSIBLE 2 was. Now those idiots who underestimated the X-MEN will look like assholes in the end. I always had faith in this movie from the very beginning. Back then I use to even go as far as to say this movie would make more money than EPISODE ONE. I doubt it will make that much money but if X-MEN is every truly a GREAT movie, it could reach 250-300 million. I can't wait until July 14th. That's when the real fireworks will begin.
June 2, 2000, 11:18 a.m. CST
by user id indeed!
Lickerish:It look's like Cyclops is cumming?Wuh?Don't be dumb,he doesn't look like Alan Cumming at all.He looks more like Ben Stiller,in my opinion.Rimbo and mole:No,Mystique's foot doesn't go through his head,but it shore looks like it.And mole,that would've happened before the machine,as in the scripty-poo,Mystique's only contact with Senator Kollapsable-er,I mean Kelly.Oh like you can figure out that spoiler anyway-is when he's kidnapping him in the chopper to take him to Maggie's HQ.And Ooh truck-Your ID is spiffy.Oh,and Harry is very strict in his ravings when it comes to a moobie that's based on a book,ESPECIALLY a comic.He wants it to be true to the spirit and style and soforth.Have you read his going-ons about Spiderman?This guy knows his comics.The scripty-poo is definitely true to the comic,so Harry will probably give it his film geek blessing when all is said and done.This has been a Morning with User ID Indeed!Moment with....uh,yeah.
June 2, 2000, 11:53 a.m. CST
To me, speaking as a foriegner, someone not involved with XMen, not in love with them, I get the feeling that things are going to be okay. From the clips I've seen I think Hugh Jackman and Ian McKellan are assets. They both look great. And as I've said before a good Wolverine will make a good XMen Film. I think that the very worst that can happen now is that film turns out to be dull. Not badly made or acted, just dull. And that's a shame. There'll be moments but the overall effect will be garbled and boring. You need a script that moves. The comics have every day of the week. But film adaptations miss them almost every try. I think Spiderman has the better chance. You're not spending 90 minutes trying to introduce a hero who's got pyschological hang ups. You're not creating all these problems and then trying to make him likeable. Peter Parker and Spiderman was likeable from page one. Which of these new movie XMen do we really like? Which of them do we really want to get to know? For me, I'm betting on Wolverine. Jackman's doing it in the trailers so I'm hoping he shines all the way through the movie. If he can, I think we'll like it...
June 2, 2000, 12:13 p.m. CST
your name rocks, you feral boy!
June 2, 2000, 12:16 p.m. CST
Hey, Fox has my $9. I liked the trailer. And I like the reports that this is more of a drama than a "Batman & Robin" P.O.S. That was a good trailer. Just enough to get us hungry and not enough to ruin it. But they had already done that by showing the Senator wiggle through the bars. God damn marketing dept., always fucking things up!!
June 2, 2000, 12:35 p.m. CST
I just watched the X-Men trailer, two times, that's all. It works really well. From watching the film, I get the same feeling I had while reading X-Men in its Chris Claremont/John Byrne days ... Even a bit from its Chris Claremont/John Romita Jr. days, which I enjoyed just as much. --- I'm impressed by how the storytelling/exposition is set up. Logan obviously has no idea who or what he is. One of the best shots in the film is his surprise when he sees Kitty Pryde phase through the Prof. X's door. We see the film through Wolverine's eyes, which is important. It's important because the comics even play off Logan's interpretation of every character (well, in some respects, anyway). Pretty Boy Cyclops, Unrequited Love Jean Grey, Conservative Leader Storm, Young Sibling in Need of Protection Rogue (in the comics, it's been both Kitty Pryde and Jubilee -- Logan has a penchant for taking young mutants under his wing), Overbearing Father Figure Professor X. --- I think Singer is right on with his characterization and his feel for the X-Men Universe. The only thing I haven't warmed to is Senator Kelly's kidnapping. Don't get me wrong, Senator Kelly is an important character. It's important to get across the notion of the Mutant Registration Act, another twist in the X-Men Universe that harkens back to Nazi Germany. This is an important motivator for Magneto, a Nazi concentration camp survivor. Had you survived such horror and saw it rearing its ugly, racist head again, you might take action like Magneto. The kidnapping just seems like a bit of simplistic storytelling is all. There should have been a greater complication involved with Kelly -- not his being turned into a mutant, but his already being a mutant. Why can't Kelly be a low-level mutant able to defeat any human, but barely able to defeat the bottom 10 percent of mutants? So this weak mutant has to get rid of all the other mutants in order to become supreme mutant? I don't know. Maybe that's simplistic, too. --- Anyway, I think Harry's completely off. I like that marketing has been low-level, I like that we're not bombarded with X-Men images ala Godzilla. I like that everyone is touting The Perfect Storm and The Patriot. In the end, X-Men will pull in $170 million domestic, $300 worldwide, and a ton of money in DVDs and Video. Sleeper hit of the season is my bet.
June 2, 2000, 12:39 p.m. CST
...due to the fact Fox has banned all AICNers from being invited to any of that studio's press lists and premieres? Are we seeing Harry Knowles paint a less-than-favorable review of the X-trailer because Harry's pissed off that this studio won't send him free stuff? Not that AICN will ever mention that in a news story they run, right guys? And Harry (or Father Geek, or whoever the hell it was): if I send you an email again alerting you to a news story I'm running on CA, I *don't* give you permission to modify my email ONE SINGLE BIT if you decide to run it as part of your story on that subject. Don't make it look like I'm handing Harry a story because I think he's more important than the other movie web sites; I'm doing it out of the politeness and respect to my brothers working in the same medium -- something the crew at AICN don't have, it seems. Don't start a pissing match between the websites, guys -- in the end you'll lose. Grow some decency and don't shape your news stories to make it seem like you were "holding back" on other news items other movie websites run. In other words: grow up.
June 2, 2000, 12:51 p.m. CST
Read morning's Talkbacks. Noticed overwhelming support for trailer/overwhelming disdain for Harry Knowles. Found myself holding minority opinion (understatement). Noticed "User Id, Indeed!" even dug trailer, so it can't be all bad. Began to question critical thinking skills and ability to enjoy light entertainment. Decided to redownload trailer again. Perhaps I might like it better at a bigger size. More later. . .
June 2, 2000, 12:55 p.m. CST
Whoever sat there analyzing this trailer frame by frame is 1) going to be just as pissed off when X-Men comes out as we all were when we gave so much attention to Phantom Menace before it came out and 2) might want to seek professional help. Yes, Batman has gone down the shitter... primarily because that flamer Joel Schumacher has turned a dark comic into a beefcake-fest and gigantic neon roadsign expo. But this movie does have the director of The Usual Suspects on its side... bonus! As for the FX... anyone here ever see a person walking through a wall in real life? I haven't... so anything surreal in this movie won't get much argument from me.. unless of course they show Rush Limbaugh running for office with something intelligent to say... because that just doesn't happen...in any universe, real or imaginary. I'm going to waste $8.50 on this movie whether it sucks or not because it's still better than Soylent Green and if it's anything like the cartoon...I'm in it for the mutant babe T&A if nothing else. One more thing... you guys complaining about quicktime downloadas... sorry, but AVI compression is worth shit. Everything's going to a QT standard for high-speed connections... and well, if you're still pissed off that you have to download QT, then take that overpriced space heater you call a Pentium and and toss it... get a Mac. At least the people at ILM are smart enough to use them (before any nerds chime in...YES I know they also use SGI..which is quickly becoming obsolete)... perhaps that explains the shitty graphics... No ILM=no G4 Macs=cheap FX... So, children, what have we learned today? It's cheaper to make your own movie with cooler FX than X-Men, better plot/acting than Soylent Green... but NEVER, I say, NEVER underestimate the box office power of mutant tits and ass! P.S. This post's "Fuck ALL you crackers!" subject was inspired by a very creative rip on the Backdoor--I mean Backstreet Boys that you MUST see at www.heavy.com... word to Chuck D, ex-backstreet boy at large...
June 2, 2000, 1:28 p.m. CST
I lost confidence in him a while back. I no longer bother to read his reviews because frankly his reviews aren't ever really that accurate. Godzilla he liked. MI2 he didn't like. Go figure. I know some of you didn't like MI2 but can you honestly say Godzilla was a good movie?
June 2, 2000, 1:53 p.m. CST
Me! I'm poppin' a butterscotch candy cap in the back of his fewl head. I'm really amazed that Harry can't see what everyone seems to see in these trailers. I appreciate having a lot of years as a comic fan invested in this film and hedging your bets, but c'mon! You're being overly critical. By now you should be able to tell that Singer has been very earnest in creating this film. I haven't read the script like you have, but I've read everything I can get my hands on, exposed myself to spoilers, seen all the trailers - I get this movie! I have faith in this movie! It's clear from the talk-backs that this flim has turned the corner perception-wise. I don't think there was one negative post regarding this 3rd trailer, which says a lot considering what was said after the first trailer debuted. And how the hell is Fox treating this release like WB's THE AVENGERS? How are they "hiding" this film? Because they haven't screened it yet? It's not finished yet! Their marketing campaign, thru advertisng and print/online interviews has been steady and consistant. Awareness is high amongst fans and the uninitiated alike, thanks to the Mutant Watch angle. All-out X-MEN commercials should be hitting TV in a few weeks to crank the hype thru the roof. And they still have over a month before the release to work on stuff like the CGI Wolverine flip (which does look phony as is, even at regular speed). I only wish they would re-work what seems to be a truly bad accent from Ms. Barry. I'm used to the way she looks by now (and that shot of her in this trailer, cape billowing in the wind, kicks ass!), I just feel her performance will reveal her to be the one true mis-cast in the film. But hopefully that's just Halle Berry's acting, not the character of Storm as it's written. Obviously we'll all have to wait and see. Come July 14th, Harry could turn out to be the wise one for remaining skeptical. All I know is that I'm there opening day, and I am psyched! Quit hatin' Harry!
June 2, 2000, 1:57 p.m. CST
Man this ruled. It was worth the hour it took to download the whole thing. The best bits: 1. Wolvie's surprise, first at "hearing" Professor X's Telepathy, then seeing Shadowcat run through the door. First rate expressions from Jackman. 2. The Rogue/Wolverine moments, especially when she touches him, him gasping, her taking on his anger. I had doubts on Paquin as Rogue but this beats them all. 3. Magneto. I've said it before and I'll say it again, McKellan IS Magneto, especially when he's flying over the Statue of Liberty. "Are you a god-fearing man, Senator?" Sent chills up my spine. 4. Mystique morphing. Just when you think the whole morph thing has become passe, someone makes it cool again. Loved how it looked like Gyrich's clothes melted into her skin and the stunned expression on Kelly's face. 5. Magneto turns the guns on the cops. Something I'm surprised the comic hasn't done before now but perfectly natural. 6. Magneto forming a walkway before him AS HE WALKS! That was my favorite bit from the last trailer and I loved seeing it here, with the look down on Magneto's feet as he formed the bridge without even trying. 7. The Wolverine/Mystique fight. Two Wolverines going at it? How can you beat that? And Mystique actually looks cool when fighting. 8. Toad. Scampering up the walkway, using his tongue to grab the visor and get Cyclops into trouble, Toad's going to be bigger than I expected in the movie and I love it. Can't wait to see him fight. 9. Sabretooth and Wolverine flying through the air. Best mid-air shots since Bruce Willis ejected out of the exploding plane in Die Hard 2. 10. That awesome last shot, a CGI enhanced version of the first trailer's ending, Wolvie doing a truly only-in the comic books move, planting his claws INTO the spike to stop himself and swing around. If I didn't want to see the movie already, that sealed the deal. The only bad thing? We have to wait a month and a half to actuall see it. But it'll be worth it, I know.
June 2, 2000, 2:10 p.m. CST
It's so much damn fun. Hugh Jackman rocks. He totally gets the character. Paquin is perfect. All of the FX shots are cool. Harry, what the hell *is* it supposed to look like when a girl walks through walls? The theme of prejudice comes across very strong in this trailer. The part where Cyke gets his goggles pulled off is perfect. Mystique is great -- truly lethal. Storm's single line sounded EXACTLY like I would expect her to from her early dialogue in the comic books. If the rest of her accent is like this, it's correct so if you think it sounds stupid, sorry...
June 2, 2000, 2:22 p.m. CST
Hey Harry, I'm a long time reader of AICN. I've been reading your great info even since before you changed to a regular domain name. Anyhow, I felt it was about time I posted and brought forth my opinion of the X-men trailer. The X-men comic book is a really great series. When I originally heard they were doing a movie I thought 'oh great, yet another comic book series they can screw up'. After seeing the great job that was done with Blade I was crossing my fingers that they would make this as good if not better. I actually was reading the series back when these were all the main characters (long before Gambit and the rest of the new cast) so the movie hits home a little more because I've read all about the characters. One of the major gripes I have is where is Nightcrawler? He was always my favorite and since he is Mystique's son I was just wondering why they didn't have him in the movie. Probably budget but ARGH, he was so cool. The relationship between him and Wolverine was always fun. Now that I've got that off my shoulders here's what I thought of the trailer. I agree wholeheartedly with Moriarty in this case! The trailer really did a great job of relaying what the characters are going to be like somewhat. Whereas before you only tended to get glimpses of a character here and there and maybe one line this one really shows off the powers and abilities of each without giving TOO much away. The scene when Magneto takes the guns out of the soldiers/officers hands and points them back at them? Now that was cool! The look in Rogue's and Wolverine's eyes when Rogue touches his skin! And of course one of the coolest things in the trailer when Toad pulls the visor off of Cyclops and he blows away the roof! Geez, I could just keep going on and on about the freakin' TRAILER for crying out loud! Sure it was a little haphazard but hey, this is a trailer right? The one thing I have hated about trailers for so many years now is the movie is almost given away! How many times have I seen a trailer for a movie and figured out the ending? I would rather it be a little haphazard like this and really get your adrenaline pumping! Yes I'm going on and on BUT I really feel you misread this one Harry. It's going to be a great movie especially for those of us fans. For those that don't know about the X-men it is going to be a good stepping stone for them to get into the next one! It's going to be a big money maker and it's going to produce at least 1 if not 2 sequels. This is my prediction. My fiance who's never read the X-men and only goes by what I tell her saw the trailer and she was thorougly impressed. As with any genre specific movie these days it's really a challenge to be able to keep the hard core fans and the newbies all in the same mode of mind. My co-worker and I had a debate this morning about Wolverine for example. We're both X-men readers from the past and she loves Wolverine. She says the she doesn't hear the Canadian accent and that he's not as short as he should be. I argue that screw that, he's got the claws and the 'tude! I've read the earlier issues of Wolverine and hell, I've got the first issue where Sabertooth is introduced but I think he is more attitude and claws than anything else! Seeing the trailer let us see this and I was happy (minus the Nightcrawler thing). Anyhow, I go on and on but I'll just leave it here. For once it looks like a big summer blockbuster that is definitely NOT going to fall through the cracks! With our lack of really high quality movies this summer (face it, so far our choices aside from Gladiator, MI:2 and Shanghai Noon) we really need something to get us going! I'll leave it at that. Knight42
June 2, 2000, 2:31 p.m. CST
Well, I think it's their way of showing Rogue using Wolverine's sapped powers to find a specific person in that crowd of people. If you notice, they pan around Rogue as the "fog" dissapates and it seems to center on one particular woman walking behind her. I think this is their way of showing Rogue being able to sniff her out from everyone else. But, I could be wrong. . .
June 2, 2000, 2:31 p.m. CST
Anybody catch the last 15 seconds of the trailer? Rogue's looking out of a telescope/viewer thingy, the screen lights up, and all of a sudden.... WHAT THE F%$@ ?! It looked like the f%$*ing explosion from Akira!!! What the hell is Magnus up to?! Why won't Fox let me see this movie?! WHY ARE THEY TEASING ME LIKE THIS?! :;takes deep breath:: ok...im fine now...in all seriousness....i am down on my knees right now...like a sinner, crying for redemption.....and i pray...and i cry to the gods, of all geeks, of all moviemakers, of the great god Stan Lee himself...please...i beg of you all....let this movie kick ass...i ask this, through marvel, our lord, amen....
June 2, 2000, 2:36 p.m. CST
June 2, 2000, 2:40 p.m. CST
Too bad they give away how Rogue gets the white stripe in her hair by the end of the movie. Its pretty much what I assumed it to be, but alas. C'mon Harry's not a sellout, but squeaky wheels get the grease right, he just wants to be the first one to see it.
June 2, 2000, 2:47 p.m. CST
Harry, you need to relax and deprogram that fanboy head of yours. That comment about The Avengers is WAY OFF BASE. Warners knew they had a total pile of shit on their hands.....Fox is being cautious. Ralph Fiennes, Uma Thurman, and Sean Connery did absolutely ZERO press for The Avengers. There have been webchats, interviews, and appearances by the X-Men cast and it is not even July yet. Harry is right about one thing...The Statue Of Liberty sequence. Is it just me, or does that remind anyone of John Dykstra's effects work in Batman & Robin when the Dynamic Duo are skysurfing. Maybe it's just the trailer. The rest looks extremely promising. Anna Paquin is reason enough to see it.
June 2, 2000, 2:49 p.m. CST
Maybe I misread your reference to the FF movie, but it sounded like you still think it might be good. Harry, the director of this movie has made two films: Never Been Kissed and Big Momma's House. Case closed. The one and only Fantastic Four movie to care about is the wonderfully ridiculous never released Roger Corman version, with that hilarious last shot of Mr. Stretchyman's (not a big Marvel Comics reader, sorry) fake looking arm waving goodbye out of a limo's sunroof. Enjoy it, it's most likely the best you're going to get.
June 2, 2000, 2:50 p.m. CST
Because I hav never read the comics. I only saw the cartoon. I have nothing but 20 minute episodes of cartoon characters to go on, you see? Much as I loved it as the best kids cartoon in years (not that I watch kids cartoons a lot, you understand), there can only be greater depth, characterisation and effects in the film. MWA HA HA HA HA!
June 2, 2000, 2:58 p.m. CST
take a look at all the other trailers...one of the shots they have in common is the shot of a 3-d model of New York....however, in this 3rd trailer, you see the same shot...but this time, the entire model gets wiped the hell out by a huge wave-something-or-other!(this also explains Halle Berry's shocked expression after seeing it in the other two trailers...)....and at the very ed...we see it happening!! whoo-boy
June 2, 2000, 3:20 p.m. CST
First off I liked this third trailer but not as much as the second. The second one I think seemed to have more of the feel that I am expecting from the movie. This trailer was more action-oriented like the initial teaser. But I think this was done on purpose to push the hype into a frenzy this close to release date. Way to go Fox Marketing. anyhow... Did anyone else notice the scene where Rogue touches Magneto? I think it gives a big hint on where the ending is going (speculative on the ending but it looks like she absorbs his powers sometime during the statue of Liberty battle). Also when they are showing the bald guy emerging from the water: WHO THE HELL IS THAT? he seems too built to be Prof. X. This has bugged the hell out of me since the first trailer. Well that was my two bits.
June 2, 2000, 3:34 p.m. CST
You were right on the money when you said that you were fed up with trailers that give "too much" away. I agree 100%. So many times, we see a trailer and what's the point in going to the movie -- we know exactly what's going to happen? The X-Men campaign so far is perfect -- just enough to whet our appetites, grab our attention, give us a flavor for the movie, and leave us begging for more. All of you complaining that there's no "coherent story" in the trailer -- wait for the freakin' movie. We're so used nowadays to wanting to know every last tidbit of a film's plot before we even see it. Hell, no wonder everyone is always so let down by flicks lately -- there's no surprise left, there's no wonder. Harry, stop reading scripts before you see the movie!!! That's like having someone give you a play-by-play of a game, and THEN watching the actual game. What's the point? I love some spoilers just as much as the next guy or gal, but it reaches a point where it really takes away from the enjoyment of the film. I always use this example: imagine knowing that Vader was Luke's father BEFORE seeing EMPIRE STRIKES BACK? You never would have experienced one of the greatest moments in almost every fan's cinema-going life. Anyway, down with Naysayers of Doom! Long live the movies! -- Nick
June 2, 2000, 3:58 p.m. CST
This may be the best comic book film since the original "Superman." But Magneto and Storm look like weak piss. Ian sounds more like a Jeremy Irons kind of dirty old man than a menacing badass.
June 2, 2000, 4:07 p.m. CST
What you said in the last paragraph is exactly how I feel about this movie. I have been an X-Men fas since I was 8 years old. I have know everything about X-Men but when I see this film I don't really see X-Men. I want to love this film, but some reason the trailer seem to displease me all the time. I guess when I think of X-men I have a vision in my mind of somthing brighter more colorful. I can recall the issue illustrated by Arthur Adams when the X-Men were fighting against a giant robot in a destroyed Savage Island. What I enjoyed was how clear you can see the action and you can tell how each the it all fit together frame by frame. Like you said before the problem with these trailers are that they all seem to be edits out of sequence. You don't really understand what's going on. In fact most of the time you don't know who is who. Is that Jean Grey or Rouge dodging Cyclops optic blast. Is that Wolverine Toad fighting in the basement? I guess we will wait and see. The only way I could be happy with this movie is if they had animated it and had Arthur Adams or Jim Lee directing it (I know they aren't animator and Jim Lee had that horrorible Wild C.A.T. animated series, but they are my favorite X-Men artist). For now at least I have the Japanese import of Marvel VS Capcom 2..... Ah, the Optic Blast takes over the whole screen; Wolverine is 5 feet and 4 inches; and Psylock is quick and smooth as a Ninja... Harry you must review this film. Do it for the fans who are scared that this film will be another Avengers.
June 2, 2000, 4:11 p.m. CST
Does that mean that if harry's little needs aren't catered to, he'll only half ass support this film. Or is there more petulance behind the scenes. Maybe he's already been "dissed" by someone in the Singer/Fox troupe. Now he's playing high school and 'getting them back' Whatever the case, that is some repugnant behaviour. I guess this is harry's best affectation of the enlightenment garnered from hanging with "bottom line" men Well, that's fine, this site is cool for wack news, and DMFC's....but i don't think the paying public respects the opinions espoused here. Do what you feel is best harry, but i doubt Singer and co. will be effected by it.
June 2, 2000, 4:17 p.m. CST
I know it's been posted that Wolverine doesn't look right doing a flip while kicking... my interpretation is that this was Mystique kicking him... she appears to have the acrobatic fighting style in other scenes. All in all, I'm impressed
June 2, 2000, 4:26 p.m. CST
Harry championed APT PUPIL for nearly a whole year before its eventual release, and stuck with it even when the critics were less than enthusiastic. If there's any animosity, it would be towards Mechanic, but Harry and crew have been hyping ME, MYSELF AND IRENE pretty aggressively; so, that blows that theory out of the water, as well. Up until this new trailer, which I really like, I wasn't too excited for X-MEN, either, but now I can't wait. I agree that this could be the best comic book film since SUPERMAN.
June 2, 2000, 5:01 p.m. CST
Finally downloaded big mamma-jamma trailer, thinking perhaps a bigger-sized picture might inspire me to want to see the film more than it did last night (see: other needles in the haystack). Did it? Well, yes, slightly, which, for all intensive purposes might as well be "no, not really." I was not moved to any real feelings of anticipation. Now to be fair, as a fanboy, the film has to contend with my expectaions as to what it should be. However, the rest of you all have your expectations as well, and to try to remove them completely from any appraisal is not only wrong but impossible. What I always liked about the X-Men, and superheroes in general, was the element of the FANTASTIC; that which is given to fantasy. Something alive and vibrant. I didn't really get much of that from this trailer. Instead, I felt that I got a grey little movie, almost like a suspense drama, with special effect thrown in. Some of the scenes were interesting at best, but none were actually thrilling (the Cyclops visor thing came closest). This is a let down. Granted, this is only the trailer and not the movie. But if this is what they want me to see in order for me to want to see the movie, they showed me the wrong thing. (Sorry to harsh anybody's mellow.)
June 2, 2000, 5:10 p.m. CST
They should have added at least one more character to the good guy team and the bad guy team. Nobody in this movie has super strength! (Come On! Sabertooth?)Every superhero team needs a strong guy! Imagine if they would have added Colossus to the X-Men and Juggernaut to the Brotherhood! Duking it out at the base of the Statue of Liberty while wolvie and saber are fighting on top with every one else fighting their own bad guy!!! Woohoo!
June 2, 2000, 6:18 p.m. CST
I bet you Senator Kelly will turn out to be a mutant, just watch. (Forgive me if this is already mentioned in any of those spoiler sites, i dont read those.)
June 2, 2000, 6:37 p.m. CST
I haven't read the comics in years. I think that's a good way to come at this movie -- with some understanding of the characters and premise, but none of the rabid zeal of current fans. It's like revisiting the fantasy world of my younger years, with an adult perspective. I haven't had much expectation for the movie, but.. that trailer looks cool. If nothing else, it's going to look good, seems like. I didn't have any sound though, so I still don't know what Wolverine SOUNDS like, dammit. It looks WAAAAAY too convoluted for a first movie, is my concern, here's hoping it's at least not embarassing.
June 2, 2000, 9:05 p.m. CST
What "obvious Canuck accent"? We don't all talk like Newfies, and we don't all have French accents. Wolverine has never used Newfie euphemisms (Lard T'underin' Jesus, boy! Stay where yer to an' all come where yer at!) or had his word bubbles written in da accent you may t'ink 'e should 'ave. So. Barring those, what sort of accent do we have? From the two or three lines I've heard, Logan has no accent at all.
June 2, 2000, 10:14 p.m. CST
Two things that people have been wondering about the 3rd trailer (SPOILERS AHEAD)----------------- 1) the whole fog scene is Professor X telepathically looking for Rogue ------------------2) (BIGGER SPOILER) The bald guy who pops up outa the water in all three trailers is actually a mutated Senator Kelly. Ok now I think they did a good job casting this flick, but there could have been a few changes: Professor X - Patrick Stewart was born for this role, Wolverine - Hugh Jackman looks GREAT if not him Russell Crowe, Cyclops - Jim Caziviel (Frequency), Storm - Angela Bassett, Rogue - Charlieze Theron, Jean Grey - Jeri Ryan (Star Trek: Voyager), Magneto - Ian McKellan works, Gambit - Keanu Reeves Kitty - Jennifer Love or Sarah Gellar, Collosus - I hate to say it, but Arnold
June 3, 2000, 12:42 a.m. CST
People are talking about how cool the scene is where wolverine goes through the tree is...well look closely, it shows a close up shot of sabretooth swinging the tree, but when he hits wolverine he has nothing in his hands... Look for a cgi tree trunk for the release. And jeez, no wonder they don't want people to see the movie, it isn't done!
June 3, 2000, 1:10 a.m. CST
If it isn't a CGI tree, it's entirely possible that Sabertooth just throws Logan into that tree, and the trailer just splices two Sabertooth swings to make it look like he's bashing him with a tree. That seems more likely, but who knows?
June 3, 2000, 2:01 a.m. CST
Actually, I think you're right. If you look at the positioning of sabretooths hands, I think he's just throwing Wolverine.
June 3, 2000, 5:09 a.m. CST
You have such high expectations of the movie- and are so disappointed when you see the design of the film and the characters that were NOT used in the film. I get to go in and see a movie with eyes unclouded by hate. While you will be crying disappointment at how they didn't do that cool thing that they did in issue #68. Thank God Bryan Singer was not an X-men fanatic when he was a kid. It needs someone with a fresh vision, not a disciple who's going to just recycle old plots or try and make every fan happy. This is a movie, not a comic book. Now shut up.
June 3, 2000, 5:38 a.m. CST
I waited awhile to see the trailer again, and now that I just saw it, I have to admit that I am getting a giddy, this is going to be The Matrix cool feeling from the trailer. By the way, who cares anymore about storms wig, when I saw the shot of her walking through the building, and all hell breaking loose (glass shattering, things flying in the air) I was in awe...such a cool shot. She looks like she is commanding a hurricane and is pissed. This shot makes me think of Storm as a force of nature, as she should be considering she can command some of the most destructive forces on the planet! For a director who supposedly was not much of a comic book fan before he tackled the film, I am stunned at how well he has captured the feel and excitement of the X-Men based on the 2nd, 3rd, and (I admit that I thought a sparse amount of scenes were cool) the 1st trailer. He has also complained about the budget...so for a director that is annoyed with Fox, it sure does not look like that is the case when you see the trailers. If this is what we get from a ticked of director, than I wonder how jaw droppingly awesome the next film will be if this one does well and they give him a real budget (nowadays, 100 million plus for a movie to be hyped as a potential blockbuster before anyone even sees a first trailer). If he does not direct the next film, I hope they allow him to do what Lucas did for the first SW trilogy, and let him hand pick directors. Looking back on the decision to let a director who has not helmed a ton of movies (and ones without 75 million dollar budgets) in the past direct this film, was a very wise (and admittedly gutsy) decision. At least we do not end up with a huge egoed director who has tons of blockbusters under his belt turn the film into all action no story. Since Bryan came from a somewhat modest background, where he had to direct films with a plot to get people in the seats, not huge budgets that allowed for tons of effects, we get the best of both worlds when an indie type director is given a budget to enhance his vision of what a movie should look like. The wierd thing is that I cannot say that all indie-type directors would be good at helming potential film franchises, because even though he could have added a plot to the film too, I feel that someone like Kevin Smith (loved his Daredevil run though!!) would have made the movie TOO independent like even with a good special effects budget...just that weird vibe I get picturing Smith directing this movie. Not to mention that he seems a wee bit more arrogant, and cocksure of himself as a movie guy than Singer (a little humility is nice occasionally, and needed in Smiths case, maybe instead of always whining when a studio wants him to be flexible, he can work with them for a change and not act like his vision is always so perfect that everyone should let the "artiste" do his thing...would get him more jobs I am sure) . For example, I have not seen his profanity laced, or sacriligous movies like clerks and Dogma respectively, and what little I have seen does not make me think "I am not worthy" to watch the great indie film master at work (my brother has, and knowing my taste...he feels I should stay away from these films). To those folks on talkback who are going to go, uh oh! he only dislikes Kevin Smith because as a whacko catholic he will not give his films a chance...bite me! I kind of enjoyed the South Park movie, and that was chock full of crude, rude, sexual situations, and had a scene with kenny and bare-breasted angels that I actually thought was a hoot, along with the scenes where the Devil is in bed with Sadamm Hussein (I am surprised the south park guys are not hiding from Sadamms assasins if he had a chance to see the movie...unless Sadamm actually has a sense of humor), that cracked me up!! Anyway, really looking forward to the film...after seeing the trailer July does seem like an eternity away from today doesn't it:) I can sympathize with the fans who cannot wait for the film!! Opening weekend matinee here I come, although that is not an indication of whether or not I am/was dying to see a film, or simply looking to kill 2 hours in a dark room, as I see ALL films I want to see at matinees to avoid some crowds and save a few bucks (especially to avoid some crowds and ensure I can get a ticket and not have to sit in front, or hear the film is sold out after waiting an hour in line and being so close yet so far to the window to grab those last few seats...which probably means I would not enjoy the uber-crowed auditorium anyway). Also, when you take buses in LA you do not want to get out of theatre so late as to miss the last bus (than the taxi cab driver more than makes up for a weak fare day when you get in his cab...true story, has happened to me once before!!), because then you are really screwed out of enjoying your night whether the film sucked or rocked!!
June 3, 2000, 7:41 a.m. CST
From what it looks like, Singer decided to concentrate on the plot more than effects(though those are cool)...and thats a good thing...believe me, anybody who saw Batman and Robin knows what happens when cool effects are used on a BS script... My only two complaints are this: 1. Wolverine...he looks cool, but im sorry...he just doesnt sound like the type who'd rip you a new nostril in the middle of your forehead for calling him a "mutie". BUT at the very least, his mannerisms eem to be right... 2. Not really a complaint..just to silent a few naysayers who think Magneto looks like crap...thats on purpose...in the comics, yes, magnus is an old bad ass, and built like a god...singer went down a more realistic road....how many 60-something year old men look as built as magnus, and can act?? magneto, in tis film, is simple...a powerful mutant, with a horrible past embedded in Nazi Germany....it is this experience that forms his fears on letting mutants be persecuted like the Jews. McKellen looks that part perfectly.(after seeing him on top of the statue of liberty, i no longer have any complaints about his costume) 3.are they gonna let storm talk any time soon? or does that cheap wig cut of her vocal abilities? Revolution is my name...
June 3, 2000, 10:52 a.m. CST
Yeah, it had to happen. for years i've watched my twin brother mole grabbing all the glory, whilst i've been reduced to scratching around in the gutter, watching him through his bedroom window, just 'cos i was born with the ability to fire uncontrollable nasal blasts whenever i got aroused. well, no more! i invested in some juicy fruit, and once that delicious sythetic taste was all used up, plugged my nose, and once more regained control of my bodily functions. I crept into my brother's room at night, and, as the sun rose, removed my fruity bung. Waves of green energy poured out: it looked kinda organic, like i was cumming! Now i have assumed his position, and, assuming i am never asked to smell anything, no-one will ever know. Incidentally: YES, someone buy me a Mac. Thankyou.
June 3, 2000, 11:27 a.m. CST
It's been a while since I read x-men. I remember Wolerine's claws coming out of the back of his hands, rather than from between his knuckles (as seems to be the case in the trailers)? Somebody tell me: how is it these days in the comic? I know it's only a small detail but I don't like it that they seem to coming out from between his knuckles. Question for fun: how the hell does he bend his wrists when his claws are retracted? Or do they slide up inside his arm beyond the wrist? HEY HARRY - HOW ABOUT A PERMANENT PAGE OF ALL YOUR HARRY ANIMATIONS? YUMMY!
June 3, 2000, 1:13 p.m. CST
What kind of guys download a movie trailer and analyze the thing FRAME BY FRAME?! Don't Harry and Moriarty have anything else to do that's more important, like sleeping? My God, with all of the constant updating on this site, you'd think that they would at least TRY to use their free time to catch a few Z's...
June 3, 2000, 1:54 p.m. CST
Okay...I saw the trailer when I saw Mission Impossible 2. Got me excited, got me mad, got me blah. I read comic books, but 95% of the movie going public does not. Let me say something...this does not bode well at the box office. Because, the general audience (packed house) seemed to greet it with a general "Ehhhh...I'll see it on video" Most of the audience was laughing in mockery as the Codenames popped up, especially at Toad. The character's powers, except for Magneto's didn't see to be explained very clearly, and it seemed to be just a bunch of jump cuts to some not too impressive set pieces. This audience was gasping at Tom Cruise's mountain scaling abilities, but seemed to greet the Statue of Liberty scene with boredom. The only obvious non-comic book reader who seemed excited was a Mullet-headed redneck a few rows up who liked the big ole 'Splosions. No real big movie stars to draw people. Even it is a good flick, I doubt it will be a super-smash.
June 3, 2000, 3:46 p.m. CST
Even without going frame by frame, the shot of Wolverine flipping around the Statue of Liberty's crown is ten times worse now than the original CGI-less version. It gave me a headache....
June 3, 2000, 7:31 p.m. CST
I think that the reason that this shot looks strange at first, is that first of all the flying Wolverine is digital, not actually Hugh; and secondly, it looks like it has been speed up a bit, probably to give the trailer more umph. I suspect that the actual shot in the film will run at a more reasonable speed.
June 4, 2000, 1:08 a.m. CST
Look. I am by no means a Comic Fanboy anymore. I once collected them and read the X-Men since the intoduction of the "new" X-Men (Wolverine, Colossus, Storm, etc.) But I gave that up YEARS AGO. So now that we have that out of the way here are a few of my thoughts about this movie: 1.) The costumes are fine. Leave it be people... 2.) Hugh Jackman IS Logan. 'nuff said! ;-) 3.) So what if the claws come out between the knucles...it makes more sense anyway, if you think about it... 4.) I really think this movie will be great. Everything in the trailers show MUCH promise! Hell, it can't be as bad as SPAWN (OT: God what a piece of crap that was...McFarland, stick to the water colors, dude. Spelburg you ain't...) 5.) Harry seems to have some kinda agenda here...sorry if that is not the case...but it sure seems like it...and if it ain't then quit tokin' on the water pipe Harry. My two cents... */ Another useless post from 'da Bastard /*
June 4, 2000, 2:47 a.m. CST
I've only posted once before but so many of you seem to be having problems saving the trailer or even downloading the damned thing and I wat to help you. First piece of advice: forget about watching it while it downloads. Second: download the .sit or .zip files. If you look below the "Click to Play" box you'll find the links for both of these. I hope this helps some of you. BTW, the trailer does indeed kick ass.
June 4, 2000, 3:32 a.m. CST
It is particularly frustrating to be such a damn audiofile when it comes to movie music. You can spot the music used from another movie for a trailer and it immediately irks me a little bit because I really feel it takes away from the message and imagery that the trailer is trying to project. The X-Men is only just one in this category of summer movies. What about James Newton Howard's music from "Stargate" being used in the "Titan A.E." trailer? I remember seeing a work in progress preview of the Bryan Brown movie "Confidence", where they blatently used John Williams' "Lost Ark" theme for a pivotal scene because they didn't have the film completely scored yet. I swear my ass clenched up from distress! It really sucks sometimes knowing music this well. So help me, if I hear the theme from "The Natural" in a commercial one more time, I'm going to ralph! I still haven't forgiven them for using "Carry On..." from Kansas for the trailers of that old Henry Winkler/Sally Fields Vietnam Vet flick (I can't even place the name, it was that forgettable) when it appeared, briefly, at the end of the movie.
June 4, 2000, 9:31 a.m. CST
I appreciated the two different views in the same story. They should pull this more often, kind of a Siskel and Ebert of the Web, if one's full of the shit the other is right on the money. And even though I agree that Harry is WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG, SO WRONG HE MUST BE TAKING DRUGS OR IS SUFFERING FROM SEVERE SLEEP DEPRIVATION, I gotta admit this is the most positive Talk back I've seen for X-Men. All it took was Harry sticking his foot in his mouth, then getting overshadowed by a more thought out review by Moriarty, then a swift rethinking by the Head Geek again. Maybe Harry blew this review intentionally. Okay, now some advice for Harry, just cryogenically freeze yourself until X-Men comes out(thus freeing yourself of building it up any more in your head), go see the movie, then tell us how you hated it. Include Moriarty's counter review, please. We're expecting it, so don't let us down!
June 4, 2000, 1:53 p.m. CST
Hey, I found a site where you can download the new X Men trailer. check out the movies section of www.studionext.com. They have a quite a few trailers there....
June 4, 2000, 5:06 p.m. CST
To the dude who says he found a site where he can presumably download the trailer to play at his leisure in the future...did you ignore the advice of the talk-backer who said to go to the quicktime site like everyone else, and download it as a sit. or zip. file? I am on an imac, and fast connection or not...as long as I have stuffit the sit. download worked great. I can now play the trailer at my leisure, and adjust the size, go frame by frame, etc. Knowing I do not have to only download and immediately play the trailer because I cannot save it is going to save me alot of frustration in the future.
June 4, 2000, 5:58 p.m. CST
Remember back when Harry announced the first casting choices for "X-Men" and posted the first glimpses of the costumes? Everyone was skeptical and the Talkback cynics were out in full force. Then we see the full shots of the costumes and a couple of folks start seeing potential. The first trailer hits, and half the Talkbackers love it, half hate it. Second trailer comes around and my unscientific poll estimates a 2/3 approval rating. And now we have the third trailer, with something like 99% of all Talkbackers giving it the thumbs up. Interesting to see so many cynics making the conversion. Of course, there's no guarantee the "X-Men" will be great just because it's turned out a great trailer, but I'm hoping it will be, if only to shut the traps of all the cynical Talkback assholes. Yeah, that'd be niiiiice.
June 4, 2000, 7:42 p.m. CST
by Street Hawk
FOR THOSE OF YOU STILL TRYING TO GUESS WHAT THAT WAS WELL HERE'S THE ANSWER. MAGNETO IS MORE THAN LIKELY GENERATING AN ELECTRO MAGNETIC PULSE!!!!. AND AS FAR AS THE REST THAT WAS STORM DEPOSITING LOGAN/WOLVERINE ON TOP OF THE STATUE OF LIBERTY USING EITHER WIND/DUST DEVIL OR SOME FORM OF CONTROLLED WINDSTORM/TORNADO. WAIT TILL YOU SEE THE FILM BEFORE BASHING IT!!!.
June 4, 2000, 9:19 p.m. CST
Ok here we go. Senator Kelly=Mutant Evidence Trailer 1# mutant head going through bars and mutant pops up in water Trailer 3# Kelly is held captive by Magento and is actually sitting by the bars. The mutant head is kelly because he pops out of the water from magento's base which is near some body of water. Kelly must be a morphing kind of mutant and probably gets help with the Xmen to escape and seeing this he relieves some of the political pressure if they keep the secret. Tell me what you think
June 5, 2000, 1:33 a.m. CST
I have to chime in and say I knew it would be great all along. I even have to say that I think Paquin's Rouge is the best of them, looking into her face conveys so much, theres a lot of pain and hurt there. Storm does say some good stuff, the "Logan, help us, fight with us" line is a pretty nice one. Above all, I have zero, that's right, zero complaints about this, except that whoever said that they NEED the music from the cartoon is 100% right. That simple cartoon music has so much energy, and fits perfectly. It'd be crazy not to use it. In fact, that was one of my favourite bits about watching the x-men cartoon every morning. But, they are throwing out and re-inventing a lot of other things people though the x-men couldn't go without, so I have to accept that the music is another of them.. even though its great music.
June 5, 2000, 5:31 a.m. CST
Yes, the guy popping out of the water IS Senator Kelly, but he's not really a mutant. Magneto turns him into one to test his machine (that, odly enough, turns people into mutants). And no, I don't think he's gonna use his political power to allieviate pressure on Mutants. I'd tell you why, but it'd spoil the movie.
June 5, 2000, 9:22 a.m. CST
by jak flash 2000
Moriaty. We are all with you to the end. This trailer rocked. I cant help thinking that Toads tounge looks like Jar Jar Biks though. This film will rock the world mark my words. Those who were there in the begining of the films production can now feel happy. In the words of Toad: I was there in the beggining and now I run the show. Made it Ma top of the world. By the way could somone please tell me where I can change my talkback e-mail. I will see you in August.
June 5, 2000, 12:51 p.m. CST
We at Hammerhead Productions are doing the Wolverine claws and the Cyclops beam shots -- and while it's wonderful to read Moriarity's description of the shots; it would be nice to have gotten the attribution correct. We're working our collective butts of here getting the last shots done, and it's comments like this that make it all worthwhile. Digital Domain is doing a lot of work in the film, but not those particular shots. Thad
June 5, 2000, 2:32 p.m. CST
Looks good to me,so far at least-Stewart is a excellent choice for Dr. X (studio casting meeting "Who the hell are we going to get to play him? He's BALD you know!") But I'm still going to miss Angel,it would of been a blast to see them CG those wings.
June 5, 2000, 9:14 p.m. CST
by HOT FISH
Harry commented about the music in the trailer bothering him, but so far the only theme people seem to point out is the Trevor Jones music for DARK CITY, which is used for the latter half of the trailer. The opening music is Mark Snow's music from the X-FILES movie score. By the way, to Sin13, the techno song in the middle of the trailer by Fluke is titled "Absurd". And Redbeard NV, James Newton Howard wasn't the composer for STARGATE, you're thinking of David Arnold. As far as some of you guys bitching about studios using cues from other scores, you must remember that a score is sometimes the very last thing to be done for a film. Trailers are compiled and released before the film is finished, requiring the studio to use pre-existing music to enhance their trailer. Granted some music, i.e. David Arnold's STARGATE or Randy Edelman's DRAGONHEART is used way too much, but most normal moviegoer's aren't going to watch a trailer 400 times like we do, so they won't have the opportunity to be bothered by the music. If it fits the footage, then by all means use it. Would you rather have no background music at all? A good rule of thumb is to not expect the trailer music to be on the film score. I'm not saying it never happens, since Hans Zimmer's cues for GLADIATOR were in the final trailer, but everything you heard in the X-MEN trailer will most likely not be heard anywhere in the actual film. As far as how the trailer looks, I would bet any amount of money it's going to be better than BATTLEFIELD EARTH, and that's all that matters to me.
June 6, 2000, 10:19 p.m. CST
Okay...I went to the Another Universe comic book shop today and they had the new X-Men movie figurines. One was of Mystique which featured "Wolverine Morphing Action" or something. The Mystique figure, naked with blue scales, came with a Wolverine shell, which you could slip onto the Mystique figure for "Morphing Action!" So it looks like the 2 Wolvie's fighting in the trailer is Mystique & Wolvie throwin' down after all.
June 8, 2000, 12:01 p.m. CST
Lickerish! I'm with you girl! I just LOVE Jackman as Wolverine! It brings out something primal in this good girl. I wanna have FERAL, SNARLING, ANIMAL SEX with him! I want to destroy furniture! I WANT TO FRIGHTEN THE NEIGHBORS! I want battle scars and lasting psychological damage that will ruin other men for me forever since I'll never have THAT again! I WANT TO LICK HIS CLAWS! (Oddly enough though, Hugh-the-decent-guy-from-Oz doesn't seem to have the same impact. Go figure!)
June 12, 2000, 7:06 p.m. CST
Talk about lame fucking trailers. That blew cock. What the fuck is with Wolverine swinging around the statue of liberty. Someonw must have been smoking chronic to come up with that piece of shit idea. And for christ's sake that scene where Kitty Pride phases through the door looks like shit. My three year old cousin could make better CGI than that. This movie is going to blow cock, despite its 120 million dollar budget. And who wants to see some old shriveled guy as magneto. Dammit read the Savage Land arc where rogue and magneto romance each other. I doubt that I am even going to see this movie when it comes out on HBO.
June 14, 2000, 1:54 a.m. CST
Who are you tryin' to kid? Of course you're going to see the movie. Not only are you going to see it, you're going to see it in the theater along with the other 99.9% of us who read this site, let alone bother to post anything here. I love it when people come in and deem the movie to be crap because Wolverine's claws go SHING and not SNIKT or some other ludicrous reason. Shit, you're referencing past X-Men story arcs, for God's sake, don't tell me you're not going to see it! Just don't trip over your skateboard and baggy pants on your way to the theater and I'll buy some popcorn for ya!
June 14, 2000, 7:14 p.m. CST
Magneto survived the Holocaust, you know? But, you're right. They should cast someone very young who was around during WWII. BTW, the only reason Mags is so young in the comics is because the Shi'ar turned him into an infant for a while, but he grew back to a mid-30-something. But, there's no way they're going to work that into the movie
June 15, 2000, 5:53 a.m. CST
I've seen every trailer, read the novel, the plot synopsis. I've come as close as I can to seeing this movie without seeing the movie. In a word WOW. To unbelievers don't see the film, you've already made your decision of what you think about the film and you couldn't enjoy it if you wanted to. You ruined your mindset and will only pick at the film instead of pay attention.To everyone else... Singer knows what the hell he is doing..trust him, he didn't do this alone. he did this with "veterans" people who know the X-men more that some of you all out there. I have no doubt in my mind now that I WILL enjoy this movie. if you're unsure read the novel (the real one, not the kiddie 8th grade level one).True I only grew up on the FOX television series and a few comics here and there, have only about half a dozen different Wolverines, have bought the entire movie line to date..or most of it( still missing 2 2-packs and the Jet..but i can wait on those) but even so I know better than to nitpick about Storms hair?..I mean c'mon. you guys are just LOOKING for reasons to down this movie. For anyone new here who sees negative press about the X-men, disregard it. It's all fodder dreamed up in someone's head who has no business speaking against a movie they know dick about save a few trailers and screenshots. True I haven't seen the movie either, but I've come as close as I can to it grabbing anything with an X in it in a 5 miles radius. Does this mean that no matter what I would've thought the film rocked . Nope. I was a bit worried when I saw the first trailer...very worried. But the more I LEARNED (not HEARD) I opened my mind a bit, then eventually I read the novel, and now I have no doubt in my mind that this is not a campy hashed out summer flick, but a quality movie on the same level as Gladiator (and that's being conservative)...some say don't belive the hype, I say revel in it. We've waited a long time for this, and people are bound to take pot shots at it, but hey who cares, see it for yourself, but at least give it a chance. Don't believe the anti-hype is more like it. PS: the music that appears on the third preview trailer is taken from the X-files movie.