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A Euro-AICN Reporter looks to James Bond's future
Father Geek here, I love the BOND Series, the good, the bad, and the ugly.
It's alot of fun, even the worst of them, but I wish they would leave the present and make them "period" pieces. Put Bond where he belongs, in the past with the syncibilities of the past. Quit trying to PC him and just let him be who he was... when he was. Father Geek feels that the series really started to go wrong when the decision was made to update him after Roger Moore left. Nothing since has really really worked for the hardcore Bond fans out there. Oh, they've made some money, lots of money,(lots of crap does) but James has some how slipped through our fingers, his soul sucked dry, his black tux bleached white as the fresh fallen snow of his opening scenes. Give us the old 007 fighting his old super-foes in the world and times that bred and nurtured them. Let him smoke... drink... gamble... womanize... and use that Licence to KILL. Well... that's what I'd like to see anyway. Here's some more takes on the issue...
Hi, Edgard here.... As MISSION : IMPOSSIBLE 2 is
topping the charts everywhere in the States, we
believe here in the Euro AICN Offices that it's the
good time to think about the future of the "other
spy", that guy named Bond, James Bond. Our faithful
collaborator Dima wrote a little text on the subject.
Remember he's not trying to get the definitive answer
on Bond, it's just a way to launch debates as we are
ALL Bond fans (there're "Connery/Bond" fans; they're
just 007 fans; they're Pussy Galore fans... and many
others...). I know many of you will scream at some of
Dima's proposals for new actors or directors, but
that's also why Talk Back exist : to allow us all
screaming our good ideas... My view on Bond is that :
I want to believe Brosnan IS the man, that at least he
COULD be the man if only he had a good script, if good
directors were hired, if only MGM could take some risk
with a character we know for almost 40 years now... I
thought THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH was a Bond on
auto-pilot : no thrills, no surprise, no plot... I
don't think the Brosnan period is bad, but it
certainly does not go as far as it could... Honestly I
don't know if there is ONE perfect solution to make a
true classic James Bond (instead of some basic action
film with no "heart"), but I think a good script and a
director with character would be a good start... or
MGM could play it safe (after all even a "bad" Bond
like TWINE makes 350 millions $ world-wide so why
should they change ?), and in that's the case let's hope
another spy (like this SAS guy that was announced on
these same pages) will come quickly to save us all...
Here's Dima now :
BOND GOT SHOT IN THE BACK BY MGM
The James Bond franchise is not just the most valuable
property of MGM but it is also a heritage of the whole
human civilisation. It reached the cult status as the
ultimate cinema fetish. Agent 007 is the perfect blend
of all virtues Hollywood genre heroes have. He is
strong and brave as any action hero, he is deductive
and smart as the best private investigators, he has a
charm and personality of the ultimate Hollywood lover.
And he is a British aristocrat so he combines nobility
with pragmatic charms of a `hard-boiled` icon. What
happened to Bond in the nineties? Late eighties
brought us movies with Timothy Dalton who was a bad
007 because he had the role of the ultimate movie hero
and he had the face of a villain. Yet those 007 movies
were fine action packed exploitation pics that
provided us with cute set pieces (`The Living
Daylights`) and grit (`Licence to Kill`). Enter Pierce
Brosnan era. First Brosnan pic slowly introduced us to
what we might call Jungle Jim Bond. Brosnan`s Bond was
a Schwarzenegger-type of comic book character, closer
to the mould of `Commando` than `True Lies`. The first
two movies of the Brosnan era featured 007 in commando
uniform spraying bullets from assault rifles as if the
movies were made in the Reaganesque `gung-ho`
mythology along with `Rambo`-franchise, `Missing in
Action`-series and features like `Uncommon Valor`. The
problem with these two movies is that they had dull
scripts and they pulled 007 away from the urban
society where he belongs. `GoldenEye` was a slightly
better entry because it was directed by Martin
Campbell, the director that belongs among top twenty
percent of the shooters. Campbell used some of the
concepts that were developed by `Die Hard` disciples
John McTiernan and Renny Harlin and that copycat work
was crucial for this movie`s modern look. `Tomorrow
Never Dies` was barely competent hack that wanted to
capitalise on current popularity of kung fu. That`s
why they brought Michelle Yeoh in to put some Hong
Kong alchemy in the process. But these movies were
overall so-so. They were watchable even though they
were bombs for franchise fans. In 1998/1999 MGM
brought Michael Apted in to direct `The World Is Not
Enough`. Big mistake. Apted was the wrong man for the
job and `T.W.I.N.E.' is the worst entry in the series.
He was the wrong man because he has no ability to
direct action scenes. His camera is static and his
shots are hyper-realistic which is wrong because
action genre is all about style. I mean 2nd Crew
Director and stunt co-ordinator Vic Armstrong would
`ve directed it better. The script is ludicrous. There
were four credited writers (among them was Michael
France who wrote a quite competent script for
`Cliffhanger`) and we got to see a hangover not a
movie. Plot is fake and terribly wrong. The climax is
especially bad written and directed. Each five minutes
of the climax we must hear Denise Richards`
explanatory monologue to catch up with the things that
are going on. Even the `bullet-in-Renard`s-head`
subplot is stolen from Daniel Lee`s Jet Li starrer
`Black Mask` and it has connections with John Woo`s
masterpiece `Bullet in the Head`. So `T.W.I.N.E.` is
bottom-of-the-barrel Bond movie. A lot of guilt must
be put on Brosnan`s soul. He has no charisma and I
must say that his best role was in John Mackenzie`s
vintage spy `must-see` `The Fourth Protocol `because
in that movie he had a role of a spy with no identity.
His best role as a good guy was in John McTiernan`s
`The Thomas Crown Affair` but it took all of
McTiernan`s wit to make it work. Brosnan simply
doesn`t have what it takes to be Bond. Take Sean
Connery for example. Why was he the best Bond? He was
the best Bond because he was born with nobility and he
had a killing charisma. Brosnan has to do a lot of
pretending to reach both effects and this is why he is
so bad. Brosnan will star in the next Bond because he
signed the contract but after that I think that MGM
should start looking for his replacement. If MGM is
about to go expensive I suggest George Clooney. Hey, I
know that he is American and that he`ll have to do The
Big Accent Thing but let me remind you he is also an
actor and he is trained to do it. If MGM plans to go
cheaper but cool they can get Russell Crowe and avoid
The Accent Crisis `cause this guy ain`t American and
he can do whatever accent you need. If Crowe is too
rough than you could use his team-mate from
`L.A.Confidential` Guy Pearce. Just avoid Brosnan,
please. Enter directors. If you want a butt-kicking
Bond feature get an author not a shooter. I mean pay
John McTiernan (Mctiernan was approached to direct a
Bond movie years ago when Brosnan got first offered to
star in the franchise but Brosnan opted for TV series
`Remington Steele` and McTiernan appeared to be too
edgy for late `Cubby` Broccoli) or Renny Harlin and
they`ll provide you with a masterpiece. MGM has
McTiernan and John Woo on contract so they could use
their genius to revive the series. If you want to get
a shooter please get someone hip and vital like Tsui
Hark or Marcus Nispel or even Antoine Fuqua and here
you go-at the end of the process you`ll have a cool
flick no matter how bad a script you have. Enter
screenplay. I don`t want to get personal but I think
that Bruce Feirstein has some dirty stuff on MGM boss
and I think that he is blackmailing him. I keep asking
myself how can those people at MGM green-light those
scripts. His new script will be used for the 20th
instalment and it is about some money forgery scam as
various Internet sites report. Those sites also report
that the script has been sent to John McTiernan (I
pray every day this scoop is true),Danny Boyle (I pray
every night this scoop is true),Stephen Herek (it
better not be true) and Anthony Minghella (imagine
Minghella`s 007 movie-a three hour bore in which we
discover that Bond is Matt Damon`s disguise and burned
Ralph Fiennes`son).There is also this practical joke
that Apted could be back in the director`s chair.
Edward Woodward will replace Dame Judi Dench as M
which is great since M showed her maternal side in
`T.W.I.N.E.` Let's hope this movie gets made by a
competent crew and let`s hope that it's Pierce`s last
fling as Bond and that we won't be forced to watch
Brosnan again in 007`s shoes.People at MGM should
realise that while they ruin 007 Paramount develops
`Mission Impossible` franchise and Fox gets all set
for the `True Lies` sequel. We must remember that best
Bond movies were made at the time when Matt Helm
series flourished. I hope that competition will
motivate MGM to pay attention on who makes Bond movies
even though I think that fans should be a motive for
the studio to take the series on the next level.
Dima
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Reader Talkback
Bond by Solid_Snake | May 31st, 2000 01:12:21 PM | Bond and Beyond by Mills Somerset | May 31st, 2000 01:21:22 PM | Am I The Only Sane Person? by dannyocean | May 31st, 2000 01:24:56 PM | by Kurg1 | May 31st, 2000 01:30:49 PM | The Future by AZMoviez | May 31st, 2000 01:32:19 PM | This guy equates "Renny
Harlin" with "genius"? by The Grin | May 31st, 2000 01:32:27 PM | I'll give that Bond such a
headache! by Sal*Paradise | May 31st, 2000 01:35:39 PM | Remington Bond by abulafia24 | May 31st, 2000 01:36:01 PM | Bond went downhill AFTER
Dalton by Darth Fart | May 31st, 2000 01:36:58 PM | Danjaq-they won't listen... by Uncapie | May 31st, 2000 01:45:59 PM | What Bond needs to do IMHO... by mephisto666 | May 31st, 2000 01:52:33 PM | It's not Brosnan's fault Bond
is dull by The_Tooth | May 31st, 2000 01:56:47 PM | Bug...Ambush Bug by Ambush Bug | May 31st, 2000 01:56:48 PM | I can't repsect the opinions
of someone who insults
Minghella an by All Thumbs | May 31st, 2000 02:04:09 PM | Do your homework, fool by juggygales | May 31st, 2000 02:05:33 PM | I'm sick of "sensitive"
Bond... by Killer Kane | May 31st, 2000 02:05:50 PM | Bond losing his edge.. by Phaelon | May 31st, 2000 02:13:55 PM | get your facts straight
europe... by MGTHEDJ | May 31st, 2000 02:14:10 PM | Hard to take by Media Fiend | May 31st, 2000 02:15:03 PM | Rupert Everett! by gilmour | May 31st, 2000 02:17:00 PM | Yes! Get a real shooter...
Ridley Scott, Marco Brambilla,
Tsui by Wesley Snipes | May 31st, 2000 02:45:54 PM | Bug...Ambush Bug Part II by Ambush Bug | May 31st, 2000 02:53:36 PM | Bond, James Bond by The Avenger | May 31st, 2000 02:53:44 PM | FIRST of all. . . by Sith Lord Jesus | May 31st, 2000 02:55:55 PM | EWAN MCGREGOR AS BOND, AND ALL
OF THAT SHIET by kiosk | May 31st, 2000 02:59:42 PM | Let's get to the heart of the
matter... by Killer Kane | May 31st, 2000 03:01:41 PM | My thoughts... by BIC | May 31st, 2000 03:23:46 PM | This is a stretch, by Francie | May 31st, 2000 03:33:30 PM | GOLDENEYE SUCKS, TND RULEs by Robertblood | May 31st, 2000 03:36:43 PM | Bond r.i.PC by johnnyboy | May 31st, 2000 03:40:47 PM | Bond is a Killer, Not a Model by SpoilerMan | May 31st, 2000 03:47:10 PM | Yes TND's did Rule! by gilmour | May 31st, 2000 03:50:50 PM | Bond.....James Bond by MoodMan | May 31st, 2000 04:16:57 PM | The next Bond by Lazlo | May 31st, 2000 04:18:11 PM | McTiernan, Harlin, Rambo IV,
Commando II, True Lies 2... by ABking | May 31st, 2000 04:23:31 PM | *blech* by ellid | May 31st, 2000 04:52:41 PM | The Long Kiss Goodnight = BOND by ABking | May 31st, 2000 05:12:29 PM | And Renny Harlin can't direct
traffic by renofloyd | May 31st, 2000 05:28:51 PM | Bond & Brosnan by lmwong1977 | May 31st, 2000 05:33:54 PM | I think you're all forgetting
something by The Nemesis | May 31st, 2000 05:34:04 PM | A New Name For The Next Bond
Girl: Cherry Hymen As Played
By Jes by RightWing Dude | May 31st, 2000 05:43:54 PM | this guy doesn't know shit by devil0509 | May 31st, 2000 06:09:24 PM | Color by Numbers: a Renny
Harlin Masterpiece by MrKearns | May 31st, 2000 06:27:53 PM | The reply from author by dima | May 31st, 2000 07:14:38 PM | as i said, harlin films work
because of second unit teams,
hir by MGTHEDJ | May 31st, 2000 07:59:07 PM | by Bond1138 | May 31st, 2000 08:20:29 PM | RE: Dima by SpoilerMan | May 31st, 2000 08:27:56 PM | Bond...what else? by acebandage | May 31st, 2000 08:37:46 PM | Bond-type actors in
Hollywood... by Uncapie | May 31st, 2000 09:03:24 PM | Feirstein, Period Pieces, and
Brosnan's Preferences by RogerOThornhill | May 31st, 2000 09:31:44 PM | I like brosnon, but if you
wanna add some zip by Entilzha Proph | May 31st, 2000 09:47:59 PM | ADRIAN PAUL (Highlander)would
be the greatest Bond by GreekmanX | May 31st, 2000 09:52:01 PM | Coupla Random Thoughts by Pierrot | May 31st, 2000 10:06:27 PM | Thoughts Errata correction by Pierrot | May 31st, 2000 10:12:53 PM | Hey prickearn, jerk wad, James
Bond uses a Walther PPK, they
are by Malchizedik | May 31st, 2000 10:25:26 PM | Are you people watching the
same Bond series as me? by Orange Bat | May 31st, 2000 10:58:39 PM | Re-cast 007! by floob | May 31st, 2000 11:15:34 PM | Fiennes is 007 by Bond7 | May 31st, 2000 11:26:28 PM | Finnes was perfect as a young
John Steed, but the "Avengers"
suc by Uncapie | Jun 1st, 2000 12:50:36 AM | Dougray Scott by Harami | Jun 1st, 2000 01:13:07 AM | Speechless........... by RobinP | Jun 1st, 2000 01:34:07 AM | Where are all the heroes? by Woodby | Jun 1st, 2000 02:08:00 AM | Denise Richards is the
ultimate Bond! by honeys dead | Jun 1st, 2000 02:32:31 AM | Dalton PART 2 by Darth Fart | Jun 1st, 2000 02:58:52 AM | Reply from author on his
alleged anti-semitism by dima | Jun 1st, 2000 03:24:33 AM | Megalomaniac Wanted - Inquire
Within by KRaid20264 | Jun 1st, 2000 03:57:07 AM | THE FINAL WORD by The Stinger | Jun 1st, 2000 04:43:22 AM | Reply from author by dima | Jun 1st, 2000 05:42:31 AM | What a load of bollocks by hull | Jun 1st, 2000 08:26:35 AM | Clueless by dunsurfin | Jun 1st, 2000 08:32:17 AM | Bond Isn't As Bad as He Used
to BE by Dingo Wrangler | Jun 1st, 2000 08:42:47 AM | More Bond by joseok | Jun 1st, 2000 08:51:36 AM | whine whine whine by Kurlac | Jun 1st, 2000 09:00:49 AM | ugh by Nooch | Jun 1st, 2000 09:07:51 AM | Bond by CCC | Jun 1st, 2000 11:20:16 AM | Why hasn't anyone suggested... by HollyMartins | Jun 1st, 2000 11:50:51 AM | This Guy is really DULL!!! by Nebel | Jun 1st, 2000 02:38:58 PM | Sorry, I don't agree... by brokentusk | Jun 1st, 2000 02:56:20 PM | I want the bastard back... by Vicconius | Jun 1st, 2000 04:40:54 PM | *YAWN* by not_a_jedi_yet | Jun 1st, 2000 05:37:04 PM | Why did my comments get
deleted? Pigfuckers by renofloyd | Jun 1st, 2000 06:01:36 PM | I state again, for those of
you who like to delete free
speech:9 by renofloyd | Jun 1st, 2000 06:06:34 PM | Renny Harlin Can't direct
traffic by renofloyd | Jun 1st, 2000 06:07:06 PM | And Die Hard 2 was the BIGGEST
pile shit since that scene in
Jur by renofloyd | Jun 1st, 2000 06:07:49 PM | Just think about it before you
scoff by Alexandria | Jun 1st, 2000 06:10:25 PM | I'm smarter than all of you. by TheShavenMonkey | Jun 1st, 2000 06:20:31 PM | by jefcon4 | Jun 1st, 2000 07:00:06 PM | Sean Bean by jefcon4 | Jun 1st, 2000 07:10:43 PM | Next Bond Villain by _Kayser_ | Jun 1st, 2000 07:30:59 PM | Dalton was a fag! by James_O'Nasty | Jun 1st, 2000 07:48:43 PM | anyone still reading? by Malbec | Jun 1st, 2000 07:57:44 PM | CLOONEY?!?!? by Bjmmn | Jun 1st, 2000 10:19:50 PM | TWINE: A Step in the Right
Direction by Bond Fan | Jun 2nd, 2000 01:37:22 AM | George Clooney as Bond... by not_a_jedi_yet | Jun 2nd, 2000 09:36:53 AM | Russell Crowe would be great by gingeracrockford | Jun 2nd, 2000 12:44:46 PM | FRANKENHEIMER or McTIERNAN by JACK TORRANCE | Jun 2nd, 2000 01:34:15 PM | James Bond by Andrew | Jun 2nd, 2000 04:48:02 PM | WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?? by Orange Bat | Jun 2nd, 2000 09:20:03 PM | Bond Is A Genre by Antigone | Jun 3rd, 2000 08:02:35 PM | WHAT A CROCK OF CRAP!!! by boozles | Jun 4th, 2000 11:35:47 PM |
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