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STAR TREK Fan's Dying Wish To Come True?
"Monty Cristo" here.
When I saw this story on various outlets today and yesterday, I was tremendously moved. I don't know the actual guy in question, but am friends with a number of his friends.
The short version is that this guy's body has been ravaged by cancers, and he is in his final weeks of life. His friends have made a desperate plea to get his dying wish to the ears of Paramount and JJ Abrams: he wants to see the new STAR TREK movie before he goes.
To see them get a Reddit post propagated across much of the geek sphere so quickly is wonderful. Now we've heard that JJ Abrams himself got on the phone with this guy's wife yesterday, and plans are in motion to show him whatever they can.
This is a great bit of geek goodwill to hear about as we close out 2012, huh? Fandom can be a pretty great thing, despite what some might tell you.
Moisés Chiullan / "Monty Cristo"
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I've always wanted to do that.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 4:31 p.m. CST
PHEW. For the moment, i thought it was gonna be about our beloved Asimov.
by frank
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Dec. 28, 2012, 4:32 p.m. CST
And JJ will be delighted to do because it is great promotion for the movie.
by frank
sorry but this is the cynical truth of busines.
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I guess there's probably a rough cut he can watch, but don't these kinds of films typically have cgi and editing work being done at the 11th hour?
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Nice story
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Dec. 28, 2012, 4:37 p.m. CST
It is sad thought that as a trek fan, his last wish is to see a movie
by frank
which has fuck to do with ST.
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They will tweak and work on it right to the release date.
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c- JJ Abrams would not do this for publicity. He's a good man and that he'd be involved is someone doing the right thing. I think the words "mensch" and "mitzvah" apply here rather than what you're implying. s- There might be a rough cut, who knows. His friends and wife say he'd be happy just to see the prologue piece.
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I hope the dude enjoys the movie. I think it's great that they're making this happen.
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This is a great thing .. it is a great promotion too .. spin it as you will .. it is great and great ..
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Dec. 28, 2012, 4:37 p.m. CST
I bet even this story gets trolled (just because it's Abrams' Trek).
by Gary Makin
Hope the guy enjoys the movie.
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By the way, I'm dying of hunger and my final wish is to spend a romantic evening with Jenna-Louise Coleman.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 4:38 p.m. CST
@silv JJ will probably show him an extended trailer, give him some memorabilia
by frank
and call it a day.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-5098924.html
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he is still a hack storyteller who has raped ST with no lube.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 4:49 p.m. CST
They should put him in the movie, on a view screen or something.
by kravmaguffin
I think Gearbox Software did it best when they put Michael Mamaril in Borderlands 2 as a npc.
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Sometimes in life we get to hear stories like this and it brings life and death into perspective. You never know the day you're going to die however this person knew that his days were numbered and as a true star Trek fan, he made a simple wish online and somebody tried to make it happen for him. I think that this is a great gesture and 1 that is possible since the movie has already been made. I hope that all the actors can make it to the showing of this movie as well since it would be nice of them to also show that they care to partake in something special. My prayers go out to the person and family. May all his dreams come true.
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just asking.
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If he's a true fan then it's a secret he'll take to the grave with him.
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I was visiting a Con in Florida, and the creator of an on-going sci-fi show was there talking about a recent Hugo win and how afterwards he was to go to an interview with some radio guys about the win... but a woman stopped him as he came out of the ballroom. She had terminal brain cancer, and asked him if it would be all right to be buried in a crew jacket because she was not going to make it to the end of the series...? What do you say to that sort of thing but YES, and Yes, again? Well, if you're this creator/author/show-runner -- you sit this woman down (blow off the interview) and you tell her, bit by bit (because you know where you're going with the show) excactly how it will end. Over a year's worth of stories he told this dying woman so she (and she alone) could know how it ended. I don't know JJ Abrams personally, and I have only ever seen the aforementioned creator that one time, but I think that he's probably along the lines as the person I mentioned above... someone who has an opportunity to do right by someone else and is in the position to do so. That's all anyone can ask for, and if you personally are in a similar position to help a fellow human in a time of need, well, then you mensch up and lend a hand. It's that simple. Take your sarcasm and snark out of this, fellas, and know that sometimes people in "the industry" do things for more reasons then a quick buck; and be thankful that they do.
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More people should try it once in awhile.
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... I'm sure I'm not the only geek that considers my own mortality in terms such as "what if I pass away before (add geek event) happens"? My heart goes out to this brave man and his family, as well as Abrams and Co. for doing the right thing <3
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This was over a decade ago, and there was a room full of sniffles at the end of the telling.
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Sarcasm and snark make me feel as good as you do when you read these sappy news stories, don't tell me how to live!
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- you called it, huh?
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It would be probably one of my wishes to if time was short... Giez
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I hate to say this but they will not show him the movie. Ive known cancer patients, and ones undergoing treatment not dying would have trouble making it to a theater, much less watching a movie from start to finish. Its a horrible disease and the treatment is almost as bad. JJ is so into his big secrets, whether its Cloverfield or that damn kids movie with the spider in it. Oooohhhh its a secret. Is he khan or is he not Khan? THe guy is as one note as m nigh shamalamadingdong. Abrams can't afford a nurse spilling the beans on his big reveal and them nurses come in every 30 min. Whenyour eating, sleeping, or shitting. God bless this fan. I hope whatever they do gives him happiness and the rest of his days are comfortable as possible. im glad the director has contacted his wife and i hope they prove me wrong.
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yeah, this is true and i am thinking about it sometimes. :/
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And I'm feeling much better - can I tell anyone that Sherlock is Khan?
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Dec. 28, 2012, 5:19 p.m. CST
but this will be a rare event since most of the geek stuff that is coming out
by frank
nowadays is pure crap.
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Stephen king wrote about a similar.circumstance where a terminal elderly woman wanted to know how his gunslinger series was ending. with like three books to go. He admitted to her he couldn't tell her. He claims.because he didn't know, but i can't buy that. Tell her.something. Ask her how she thinks its going to end. Them tell her its exactly right! or damn close. Tell her it was all a dream. Tell her SOMETHING. one little thing to make a life ending more enjoyable. Books, movies, its fucking art . Art is useless, someone once wrote. Making someone smile at that point of their lives is far from useless. Its more important than anything else art could do
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Hes not a Star Trek fan.
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http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/12/20-12-pl_blackangel/ http://www.wired.com/relicwranglers/2011/12/challenge-update-roger-christian-hears-our-twitter-support/ Fucking awesome news !
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Dec. 28, 2012, 5:50 p.m. CST
Randy Pausch, the Last Lecture guy, pulled the same thing with the first movie
by Ricardo
He did not live to see it, but they put him in the movie.
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that is all.
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Yep - still no obituary on the site. Poor.
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The last thing you want is for your dying wish to be a huge disappointment.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 6:15 p.m. CST
I just took 5 minutes to register only so I can let anyone trolling a movie or making jokes here that they are a total piece of shit.
by Aaron Cale
And I'll take another 5 minutes to give a few dollars to St. Jude's. See how easy it is to try and be a half-decent human being?
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The sheer devastation that would have accompanied his final weeks, having seen The Phantom Menace in all its atrocious anti-glory.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 6:21 p.m. CST
I'm a Star Trek fan, and my dying wish is to have Alice Eve come over and polish my dilithium chrystal. She'd be wearing her Starfleet uniform, of course.
by AzulTool
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If this had been Spielberg, nobody would have batted an eyelid. Because it's Abrams, he's doing it for the publicity. Do you honestly think he needs the publicity? The film will have a multi-million dollar marketing campaign, and this story will barely make a paragraph on the blogosphere. If anything, Abrams is running a sizeable risk of major plot points being leaked (not by the sick dude obviously, but he'll have family/friends/nurses in the room when it screens). Some people believe in good karma, stop looking for a fucking agenda behind everything.
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Your comments on this story are a prime example of what's wrong with the haters that show up here on this site. I have no words for how Inappropriate.
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Not having the capacity to accept different directors have differing visions of a dying franchise is one thing. To throw such a genuinely moving attempt to make one fans last day is really something else. Fuck you and the cynical little worlds which you inhabit. This was a class act by JJ, and I hope this poor guy goes out with a smile on his face. Oh yeah, where's the fucking Gerry Anderson obit you fuckers? The guy was a visionary, and along with Who and Trek, pretty much was 60's sci-fi. Cunts.
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...and this is Super-Cool. That touches even the coldest Vulcan heart.
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...for a little kid about a month or so before FOTR came out.
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If I were in his position right now I would totally ask to read the treatment for the next Star Wars trilogy. I hope he finds peace. Cancer is devastating; more for the family and loved ones to have to watch someone go through it. My thoughts are with a fellow Trek fan as he journeys to the final frontier.
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Still hope he gets his wish fulfilled of course.
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because we all know that his real dying wish is to spoil this fucker and eff up jj
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Dec. 28, 2012, 7:04 p.m. CST
STOOPID FAGET SHOULD HAVE ASKED FOR KELLY BROOK TO FUCK HIM!!!FACT!!!
by creepythinmanrises
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cuz i know that old fart will outlive me
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....I'm highly indifferent to JJ Abrams, but anyone posting mindless, and heartless sh*te, should just p*ss off, and get a life, as we say in England.....show some heart. Jesus!
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yep...we (all) know his obsession with 'lens flares...' The joke's been done way MORE now than the number of 'said-lens flares'......thus.....ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.....(I'm not sure, what is now more boring).
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Dec. 28, 2012, 7:35 p.m. CST
I WILL SAY THAT YES, THIS IS A GREAT THING THAT JJ IS DOING. KUDOS TO HIM FOR DOING IT.
by Mark
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Dec. 28, 2012, 7:36 p.m. CST
I ALSO HAVE TO SAY THAT, WERE I IN THE POSITION OF SEEING A FORTHCOMING FILM BEFORE ITS RELEASE, IT WOULD BE MAN OF STEEL.
by Mark
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Dec. 28, 2012, 7:36 p.m. CST
TO EACH THEIR OWN, OF COURSE. I'D ALSO TRY FOR A DOUBLE-FEATURE WITH PACIFIC RIM.
by Mark
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Hopefully he's a diehard Abrams fan or a die-hard non-purist Star Trek fan. My celebrity wish happens after I've passed. It involves my ashes, an expensive looking shaker container labelled as 'BODY TALC', and Natalie Portman.
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If jj went straight on to directing this rather than the love poem to Spielberg
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Also, I've created a new guideline for visiting AICN talkbacks... never enter a Star Trek talkback. Unless I need motivation to kill myself by reading all the bile and hatred spewed forth in those particular talkbacks. It is weird, but maybe Star Trek is really not this great utopian ideal it is cracked up to be? The fans seem awfully unpleasant, and wasn't Gene Roddenberry a cheating womanizer? About a year or two ago, I watched a show focusing on Roddenberry's son Rod, who talked about his father and Star Trek. There was a lengthy sequence about Gene Roddenberry's womanizing and the problems and pain it caused his family. Yeah, I know, no one is perfect. Still though, Star Trek seems to get held up as this great ideal we should all strive for, but in a weird way almost feels like Scientology without the insanity. At least, that's my take. I guess I'll always have Battlestar Galactica.
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That is all.
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Oh wait it was a movie plot.. Four friends one dying wants to see Episode 1 the phantom menace before he dies... Oh right its called fanboys.. Good on J.J for allowing this fan a glimpse at the film before its ready to make his dying wish come true.. I read that J.J Abrams contacted this persons wife..Already eliminated his geek status.. Sorry folks his sexual pleasure comes from another human being not a internet clip site :). I am a Star Wars fan Not a Trek fan however Kirk over picard and ill watch this sequel as the first was great!
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and sends it to aicn
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they go out of their way to make this happen for this guy and he ends up hating the movie.
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Interesting choice of words by montycristo as it's quite literal, there's a midrash on Genesis 50-30 saying exactly that (Regarding final wishes though not specifically pertaining to Star Trek Into Darkness, which is not mentioned by name in the Talmud), so it is very literally a mitzvah. There's also a midrash stating that if one burns and grinds up the placenta of the 7th born cat of a 7th born cat into ash and put the ashes in your eyeball then you'll be able to see the demons that lurk around us all the time as though they were made flesh. It gives the account of the only man known to try, a Rabbi who is said to have indeed seen the demons before going permanently blind shortly after. I don't have a point here I just wanted to share some fun facts from the last Talmud study. themoreyouknow.gif
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..no Gerry Anderson obit.
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... tell him not to worry, it isn't actually Star Trek.
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Is that this is not a con with the guy. Seen way too many of those.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 9:26 p.m. CST
Great acts of genuine generosity aren't done in public and spread all around the internet
by Stegman84
They are done in private, between individuals, done because they actually care, and because they are in a position to do something kind and meaningful for another person. The mere fact that I have already read about this story on five different sites today just gets my natural cynic juices flowing. I mean this is still great for the person in question, and if it brings even a sliver of happiness into their lives then that's great, but the motivations of Abrams and company in turning this into a news story/publicity piece seem pretty damn opportunistic and mercenary all the same.
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can not be kept in private. The news about JJ's involvement came from a tweet from one of the patient's friends, not directly from JJ himself.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 9:50 p.m. CST
Interesting, my dieing wish would be to stop Abrams from making any more Faux Trek, and to have some real Star Trek made instead.
by Yamato
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Careful cavejohnson, some people actually know who you are. Tick tick tick.....
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Yeah well...Were ALL good people, aren't we? I mean, aside from the whole self-interest problem we have as capitalists in out fine country, which tends to corrupt the definition of what is "good"... All I have to say is this: Honestly, if he wants to show this to a person dying of cancer, this doesn't need to be publicized. We didn't need to know about it...Announcing it to the world - although not necessarily an instant condemnation of his character - certainly doesn't help much, though, does it? It's counterproductive. It's a political gesture. That's akin to a celebrity going to a third world country to feed the poor or whatever...And next thing you know he's on TV being interviewed for 60 minutes talking about his cause. My point is, if you wanna do good. Just do it. If you wanna talk about it? You don't need the press to tell the world you are doing it. Therein lies the conceit.
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But still...the person who DID advertise it isn't helping either.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 10:18 p.m. CST
Yes I want to live to see Man of Steel and Avengers 2 and Avatar 2
by Rupee88
at least I made it to the first Avengers. But I do have these thoughts sometime as well.
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apparently it's being publicized now, isn't it? so.... What else do you wanna talk about?
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needs to post more, it's the only worthwhile thing about this thread. Also, the "should've asked him to remove lens flares" comment. Top notch!
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The last thing that I want to hear is the cloying, gooey, "heart going out" crap that this story will generate. It loses its resonance when recycled by the media. Is this REALLY a feel-good thing, considering the context?
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It would take a cynical bastard indeed to put a negative spin on this.
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Wouldn't that be some fucked up shit.
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JJ Abrams is doing a nice thing for somebody, and NOT telling anybody about it. Rather, the patient's friend decided to tell people that a nice person did a nice thing...and now we're blaming JJ Abrams for "advertising it"? If somebody does something nice for me in secret and goes on about their day, it's now incumbent on ME to keep it a secret?
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the score and the idiocy of kirk took me right out of the entire bit this movie will kill the poor guy
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Dec. 29, 2012, 12:12 a.m. CST
did you over judgemental twats ever consider that maybe the guy's friends & advocates circulated the story?
by cgih8r
Of course not, you guys just go straight to assuming that J.J. Abrams publicized it. Did I remember to call you guys twats already? cuz you guys are some serious twats.
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..and dear lord there are some sad hateful fuckers on this site.
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And he didn't need to advertise the movie. It will make big bucks because it will be good.
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Use your inside voice next time.
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...for AICN. Expect a write-up next week from "The Sick Man"
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Dec. 29, 2012, 3 a.m. CST
If you were lying on your death bed alone, and the only thing to do was to watch movies on a laptop, what movies would you watch one last time before you die?
by Bobo_Vision
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Well...it can only get better...
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Star Trek fans dying wish... to fuck 7 of 9 and spunk all over her semi-metallic face. And plans are in motion for Jeri Ryan to get back in the silver catsuit and make this great bit of goodwill come true.
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bobo_vision, I would watch GODFATHER on my death bed just so I could pass away to the sound of Abe Vigoda laughing at me.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 3:45 a.m. CST
I never doubted JJ was a nice person. But his movies still suck. And ST:ID won't get better because of this.
by The Comrade
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Wasn't that wowed by it either. *spoiler* kirkrunningamongnativeswasanoknodtoTOSbutthewatersub'prizewasjustoverit. I enjoyed the 2009, but once they JJ runs out of re-introduction fun of the TOS characters, it just doesn't feel like trek anymore. Remember how Nero fell so flat, and vacume-cleaned Vulcan seemed like a crappy gimmick now. The Narada doesn't make sense even with the comicbook backstories. Vger would have digiplasmed them. Bring back movies like TMP. Enterprise flying over V'Ger the closest seen to a "RAMA" like movie. investigative and hard sci-fi.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 5:13 a.m. CST
Fandom can be a great thing? You know what else can be a great thing?
by CountOrlok
Not having terminal cancer. Sheesh.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 5:49 a.m. CST
Well. I say fuck the cynics, trolls and haters on this story - and I hope whoever this poor dude is he enjoys the movie.
by ChickenStu
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Top of my head: Shawshank (obvious but fuck the haters). Spinal Tap (one last laugh at man's foolishness). Paths of Glory (remind myself I'm not missing much). 2001 as the final thing I see (chill out and ease into the the idea that there is a 'whats next')
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Dec. 29, 2012, 6:57 a.m. CST
Yea...But...But...Jar Jar Abrams Is a Jerkoff! Right Guys? ....right?
by Crow3711
No. He's obviously fucking awesome.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 7:02 a.m. CST
Still doesn't beat what GEARBOX did for a fan of BORDERLANDS.
by onezeroone
More so when you consider the "fact" that Gearbox is hellbent on poisoning minds of our children and turn them all into "killing machines" through "violence porn"s like BORDERLANDS, ALIENC COLONIAL MARINES and DUKE NUKEM FOREVER.
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I mean, I can't think of a single reason why the man doesn't get an obit here. This site has become a vehicle to flog JJ Trek and that's it. Disgraceful!
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Conan the Barbarian (arnold version), Sixteen Candles (that movie always reminds me of what being a teenager felt like), and I'm not sure what else, but I like asiandawn's suggestion of 2001.
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Alien, Aliens, The Terminator, T2, Seven Samurai, Ghost in the Shell 1&2, AKIRA, The Matrix, Bound, 2001 A Space Odyssey, Goodfellas, Casino, The Thing, Escape From New York, Big Trouble In Little China, They Live, Bram Stoker's Dracula, Inglorious Basterds, The French Connection, Jaws, Indiana Jones 1-3, Star Wars OT, Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan, Star Trek: First Contact, Coal Miner's Daughter, First Blood, Legend, Willow, Mad Max trilogy, Lord of the Rings trilogy, Bad Taste, Dead Alive, Inception, Hardware, Blue Velvet, Avatar, The Hunt for Red October, some classic Twilight Zone episodes, the whole fraking Battlestar Galactica series... old and new, and finally Blade Runner. Actually my dying wish would be for Starbuck (both versions) to come hang out and smoke cigars while Edward James Olmos is there reading epic passages from Searider Falcon.
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At least so far it seems like a distinct possibility.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 8:10 a.m. CST
Yeah, the guy kind of wants to see a particular UPCOMING film before he dies. You know, on top of older things he can watch as well.
by Gary Makin
You people love to make something out of nothing, don't you?
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Those movies were mostly boring, pretentious fucking SHIT until Abrams came along and made them at all entertaining. People who say they need to make them MORE like TMP...are you fucking kidding me? That was the most boring piece of shit I've ever seen. I hope this guy loves the movie. And every one of you whiny little cunts will be there opening night and you fucking know it.
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What the heck ask to go on the SET!!! and sit in the Captains chair, with lens flares and all. That would get me a few more weeks on this planet :-) All in all better to do it than not. Whether it had to be publicized is an other matter. Mark
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The general verdict is that the game fucking sucks. It has faithfully adapted the world of A2, as atmosphere and settings go but the gameplay is poor and quickly becomes repetitive and boring. in other words, TOLD YA.
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there.
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hell, i havent even watch the first NuTrek shitpile. how about that?
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Good to know you talk completely out of your ass. And where did I claim to be a Trek fan? Swing and a miss there, tough guy.
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It must be miserable being as cynical as you. And its 'business' you retarded hillbilly
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I mean come on, is he gonna go on a crazy roadtrip to JJ Abrams house and get punched out by a Harry Knowles impersonator?
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Dec. 29, 2012, 9:15 a.m. CST
It's JJ Abrams, not a regular person. That's the difference.
by doom master
If JJ wanted this to be kept hush hush, Im sure he could have said something - maybe he even did. But the guy/whoever heralded JJ Abrams GRAND DEED to the media, and now look at it...Why did he feel a need to do THAT, exactly, is the question? There's thousands of people who give dying wishes to people on their death beds every day, and yet they don't make any press...Why? Because nobody is going to care unless it's a celebrity...Which explains why people get trollish about it because it comes off as a publicity stunt - whether intentional or not. JJ seems to be downplaying it, which is what he should be doing. Still - it now makes him look like Angelina Jolie in Africa sitting with poor children and people taking pictures of her left and right. It automatically deflates it. SO for people who say it's not JJ's fault, well, you're probably not wrong, but you're also probably not right, either.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 9:25 a.m. CST
A star trek fan is dying and all of you are just me me me! Look at me! I'm so smart! Duuuuuuuuurrrrrrr duuuuurrrr duuuuuurrrrrrr
by UltraTron
I'm just fucking with ya. Creepy is right. Woulda shoulda
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Dec. 29, 2012, 9:27 a.m. CST
@jediwuddayaknow unless you have eaten a turd to know if it has a bad taste,
by frank
spare me with this silly, overused argument.
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or is this the 'Bobby Brady' con a la Joe Namath?
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Because having an opinion on the taste of shit and speaking as if you have authority on a movie because you saw a trailer is the same thing. Sure. Spare me your lame, impotent, played out nerd rage at something you've never even seen.
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Honestly, I thought this might be the ONE talkback without shitty comments. Silly me.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 10:18 a.m. CST
@ediwuddayaknow you don't need to be the authority on something
by frank
in order to express a factual truth. do you need to be an astronomer to know and say the simple fact that the sun is a star? or do you need to be a chef, to know and say when your steak is badly cooked with the first bite? and something else: notice how you went from: =And every one of you whiny little cunts will be there opening night and you fucking know it. = to =So you have no frame of reference.= see how fast you changed the subject? but that's what happens when you generalizing and labeling everything: you end up being wrong. and that's ok, nobody is perfect. but the thing is that you didn't even have the balls to admit your mistake. you tried to avoid it. and that's why your insults against me, are unconcerned. because you are a little man, an anonymous little man trolling an internet site.
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Says the man bashing a movie he hasn't seen.
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AICN, please bring that thing out now and cleanse this thread of disgusting, arrogant, selfish and unfeeling arseholes. And regardless of my thoughts of ST 11, what Abrams is doing is fabulous. And there are a fair few here who would deserve less come their time.
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No, you don't need to be a chef to know your steak is badly cooked after the first bite. But you DO need to take that bite. Nevermind that you're comparing two entirely different things, that don't match up. Can I definitely say a movie sucks based on a trailer alone? Hell no. I've seen good movies with awful trailers as often as shitty movies with great trailers.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 10:35 a.m. CST
I bet smalljohnson isn't the only NuTrek hater on here who hasn't bothered to watch the actual movie.
by Gary Makin
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and i will still be here to tell what a piece of shit, it is. because it will be.
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but i did. and i have explained how i did that, in another talkback where i provided some good arguments for that. i don't want to repeat them again, especially not in this topic. and we are already out of topic. so what do you say to pause it here and continue the conversation in the next, more suitable, StarShit2 topic?
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You've proven your lack of worth.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 11:05 a.m. CST
Nice of JJ one supposes (though it is impossible not to see the benefit for him), but couldn't the dying guy show a bit of taste?
by golden tribw
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-20845407
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that's why you keep replying to me. anyway, that's it for me. cheerio.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 11:38 a.m. CST
Yeah, this is going to create a HUGE amount of publicity...
by Gary Makin
Except it won't. It'll be nothing compared to the multi-million dollar media blitz when the movie comes out in May. But keep on trollin', losers.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 11:48 a.m. CST
This will show up as the third story on Entertainment Tonight, tops. Then, one would hope, that will be it. If the same situation occurred a year ago,
by openthepodbaydoorshal
with a dying person's wish to see Dark Knight Rises, would Nolan be dumped on also?
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Would be starbuck blowing me. The new one, prefferably. or the green chick from startrek. Old one or new. Idc. Probably watch the wild.bunch, departed, the wrestler, the fountain, and other stuff with noble deaths in them
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Cavejohnson passionately hates a movie he hasn't seen. An opinion based on secondhand information (facts) and a trailer (something about the sun and eating crap...I lost the train here). Anyway, if you haven't seen a movie, you have no valid opinion about it. Fact. No exceptions. I haven't seen Lindsay Lohan in Liz & Dick, and while I hear people say it sucked, you'll never hear me saying it. I didn't see it. And sure as shit, I'm never going to make a hobby of hanging out with Liz & Dick fans and insist how terrible their movie that I haven't seen was.
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at least this guy is lucky enough to not live to see any more of Orci's turds
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oh... oh well...
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If its anything like the first (95% at rotten tomatoes) he'll have a great experience before dying.
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Where the hell was twin peaks going? What was going to happen to agent cooper?!! What the hell happen in the lodge? Makes me sad we'll never know.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 1:46 p.m. CST
I remember Warren Zevon got an early viewing of "Die Another Day" on his deathbed
by bah
Careful what you wish for.
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He just wanted to live long enough to see it, which he did. But I think my point remains -- careful what you wish for. And filmmakers: don't make shit. It may be someone's dying wish you're ruining.
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I think the initial effort was to get the situation wide attention so that something could happen, but I doubt seriously that Abrams adopted a Snidely Whiplash voice and told the man's wife "yesss, yesss, tell THE WHOLE WORLD, MUAHAHAHA!". Excited friends got blabby.
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The question is WHY It may not matter anything to Abram's movie... But you have to admit this press sure doesn't hurt him publicly, now does it? You might even say it BENEFITS him... You'll have to excuse me...I hate publicity stunts, so whenever I see stuff like this: intentional or not, it grinds my gears. Especially when it's actors/film industry professionals. It just comes off as so much self serving promotion - even if they honestly don't intend it to be. That's the problem. Look at it this way - if it was someone you don't know and you heard about this kind of story in the news, would this kind of discussion even be happening right now? Probably/Definitely not.
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So, basically, you hate things like this...because YOU'RE too cynical to believe that they might be genuine. Wow. That must be a shitty way to go through life. Your comparison doesn't really work. A guy famous for keeping a tight lid on details of his movies is letting a dying fan see what he has of his movie. So, if it was someone we DIDN'T know directing an anticipated geek movie allowing a dying fan...or...no. Wait. He...how would the exact opposite of this go? A dying guy wants to see an anticipated movie by a director we don't really know before he dies...and the director lets him? Hell, I'd be every bit as happy for the guy and give the same amount of kudos to THAT director. Doesn't hurt that it was Abrams, who likes to keep secrets about his movies until they're released, but I honestly think cynical attitudes like this have got to be an incredibly depressing way to live your life.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 4:03 p.m. CST
JJ's doing it out of respect and just plain human dignity. Not to mention his "National Typewriter Company" is hands down the coolest place in town to have a pitch meeting
by MARCEL_THE_NEGRO_PROJECTIONIST
Having met with him twice, I can safely vouch for this. The man's got a good and kind heart.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 4:36 p.m. CST
Yeah, it is a pity though that he is a complete hack when cinematic storytelling is concerned.
by frank
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Well if you haven't sampled the new Trek then your opinion is just based on moving your mouth. That doesn't seem like a very logical critique to me. It does seem like a very subjective grab for attention however. This aside however your comments on this subject were in extreme bad taste. An example of how haters on this site go over board with their crticism. It's one thing to not like something and tell everybody once. It's entirely another to do it over and over again ( especially when few are in agreement ) and to use a sensitive subject as a point of argument for your opinion.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 4:47 p.m. CST
@jediwuddayaknow Do bashers of "old Trek" have ANY real criticisms except that it was "pretentious"?
by whyamihere
Sheesh, that's all I hear. Pretentious this, pretentious that. Ohhh, it was just so pretentious. Along with its classic synomym buddies "pompous", "pretentious", and "self-righteous". Pretentious, pretentious, pretentious. Like monkeys clicking the orgasm button. Yet somehow the whole thing had millions of fans the world over, so obviously there must have been some people who liked it. "Pretentious" is nothing but a critical buzzword these days for a movie that has the balls to try and make points about things. Here's a brilliant idea...instead of bashing something that millions enjoyed just because YOU didn't like it, why don't you let people have their opinions? JJ's movie, by the way, wasn't entertaining. It was dumb. How does a cheating cadet suddenly become first officer of the Federation's flagship? How does Spock get off suddenly abandoning him on a brutal planet which so conveniently holds lots of crucial characters? What's so entertaining about Michael Bay-esque bar fights, looney-tunes Kirk hands, etc? Those are questions that occur to even ordinary folks, not just science nerds. Harry Plinkett would have had a field day with this movie had he not been trying so hard to be the contrarian.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 5:47 p.m. CST
For those saying this is an Abrams publicity stunt, FUCK YOU!
by notcher
Had Abrams said no you'd all be over him like flies on shit saying how much of a heartless piece of shit he is! The only people spinning this story to their own needs are the fucking douchebag JJ haters who are making fucked up comments like "Too bad this guy's last movie will be Fraud Trek" and stupid shit like that. FUCK YOU YOU HEARTLESS HATING COLD FUCKING BASTARDS. ROT IN HELL! IT'S A GREAT DAMN STORY!
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yep.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 6:01 p.m. CST
Plinket is a hypocrite who cunningly stirs reactions from the fans,
by frank
so that his site gets traffic. And though, his reviews are well-thought and informative , they are not objective and sincere, as he might make you think. Reviewers with double standards, are the worst of the lot.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 6:13 p.m. CST
Notcher, he could have just shown the kid the thing quietly
by trevanian
instead of letting it become an event. That sounds like exploitation to me. In fact, it is. By way of comparison, when there was a dying kid who wanted to see the set on the first TREK movie, back in 78, they accommodated him ... but they did NOT exploit it. Nobody knew about it until Walter Koenig's diary came out and mentioned it nearly 18 months later. THAT's the class way to deal with this stuff, without looking to blow your own horn.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 6:19 p.m. CST
Johnson doesn't need to see st09, the trailer sez it all -
by trevanian
moronic garbage. I wound up renting it and it was maybe even worse than I expected, and I expected utter horseshit. The storytelling, the dialog, the characterization, the plotting!!! -- and that isn't even getting into the lens flares, which at that volume I wouldn't expect from somebody over the age of 7 would deliver with a camera. Johnson, the 1st abrams is so bad it isn't even funny. As messed up as most non-DS9 ModernTrek was (and that is just about all of it IMO), only VOYAGER and Lil ENTERPRISE could rank as bad as the Abrams, but they, while stupid and a waste of time in most instances I tried watching, weren't always as offensively bad as the Abrams.
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I thought I might come back and remind the trolls here, once again, that you are human pieces of shit. Even the people coming at this from a more "Well, its nice that he did this, but he did it in public so that makes him a wanker." Really? Fuck you. At least he did something for someone else, period. What you have you done for this guy? Would you rather he have not done this at all? That way the guy with cancer wouldn't get his dying wish but your dickhead little feathers wouldn't be ruffled? You trash need to re-evaluate your life. The worst case scenario about this being publicity is that it fucking rubs you the wrong way. Alternatively somebody else in a position to do something nice for someone might read about this and be inspired to do something similar. I'd really like to know more about your collective parents, I'm sure they didn't mean to raise you this way.
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Goes both ways, hoss. I'm sure you found it dumb. I don't care. It's a silly movie about space and time travel. I don't take it seriously beyond being entertaining. And sure we do. They were also ungodly boring and cheesy. Y'know what else has millions of fans? Twilight. And I sure as shit don't respect those movies or anything about them. Transformers had millions of fans and those movies were trash, as I recall. The action was great, I liked the actors in their roles, I enjoyed the story for what it was, and I was entertained by more of the humor than the usual Trek fare. Want to preach to me about accepting other's opinions, and letting them have it rather than bash the movie they enjoy? Well, let's see how well you practice that little sermon.
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You know WHY nobody knew then? BECAUSE IT WAS FUCKING 1970 AND THE INTERNET WASN'T A THING! The only reason we know about this is because the kids friend mentioned it! I love you assholes who bitch because someone didn't do an incredibly nice thing in a manner to your liking.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 7:32 p.m. CST
mogo, if you don't give a crap about the CONTEXT of an action, you are one serious dumbshit
by trevanian
... nuf said about you. When I do something nice for somebody, I do it because it is the right thing to do, I don't sell tickets or post the news online. JEDI, all of the examples you cite are things that were shit to start with, and stayed shitty or disimproved. Dif here is that TREK had something going on way back when -- for me I think it was the contribution of long dead Gene L. Coon, without whom TREK would probably be an Irwin Allen-sized footnote -- and bits of it carried through ... no other explanation for its longevity, unless you just dismiss it as I LOVE LUCY with the bonus of a lot of mediocre optical effects.
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Really, don't.
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Which I do, pretty much.
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No such thing as gossip pre-internet? Then I guess nobody knew Rock Hudson was gay before he got sick right? Nobody knew Dallas Cowboy Lance Rentzel (married to Joey Hearton no less) was flashing a little kid and got caught. All because there was no internet. Wow. How the hell did we find out about Watergate? NEWSPAPERS. Those who don't learn from history are probably the ones busily rewriting it to suit their levels of understanding.
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If you honestly don't understand the difference between the ease of news spreading about every little thing on the internet and relatively BIG news like what you posted, then we have nothing more to say. Because I really don't feel like explaining it to you.
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Wasn't much of a fan of Abrams take on Trek but good on him for doing this.
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but i think now they're mostly infested with subhuman, whinging tossers. with that, and the continuous decline content wise from Harry and co, I think AIC is on the way out.
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If this rubs you the wrong when then that's actually a plus, too. I guess St. Jude's Children's Hospital should shut the fuck down, too. You know, since they advertise their good work and get credit for it. The world be a lot better of a place if no one helped anybody unless it was done in complete privacy in order to placate the utter shitstains of civilization. What about the wings of hospitals that have the name of who donated for their creation? That ram a stick up your ass, too?
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Dec. 29, 2012, 10:28 p.m. CST
mogo, those places RELY on publicity to further their good deeds
by trevanian
so you're comparing very rotten apples with very sweet oranges. And, like Dirty Harry's boss Capt Brigg's mouthwash (or was it deodorant?), it ain't workin'.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 10:29 p.m. CST
JEDI, can't explain how happy it is that you won't be trying to explain things to me anymore
by trevanian
and to all a good night!
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Now millions of Trek fans will fake terminal illnesses just to get to watch a movie. Great going, JJ!
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I know the fan in question. He's just a good guy who loves all sorts of films.
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Sadly I'm not wrong. I think you were quite clear in what you were doing. Don't blame us for stepping in your own shit and then having to scrape off of your shoe while no one is looking. Having an opinion is one thing. Turning yourself into an annoyance by invading threads and restating it again and again ( especially in tasteless comments about an act of kindness ) is just trolling.
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<<Turning yourself into an annoyance by invading threads and restating it again and again ( especially in tasteless comments about an act of kindness ) is just trolling.>> Absolutely true. This is a thread about a guy getting his dying wish to see a movie before he goes. And when someone is so self-absorbed that they think it's an appropriate place to pat themself on the back for hating a movie they haven't seen...it's pretty sad. Fucking idiot cavejohnson is acting like HE'S being forced to watch the new Trek movie. Obviously this guy is dying and is a fan, and his friends and family reached out to make this happen. Trying to call him out and imply that he's not a real Trek fan or some nonsense...just fuck the hell off.
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Dec. 30, 2012, 12:44 a.m. CST
And fuck, AICN...can you at least allow us to use quotation marks?
by MrWonka
This is a bug in one line of code on your site that a 14 year old could fix in 5 minutes. It's been like 2 years...
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Dec. 30, 2012, 1:52 a.m. CST
@real deal: AICN is about trolling! The whole site is a trolling attempt! Oh, wait ... you thought they were serious? ROFL.
by The Comrade
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about this story. I personally know the people behind involved. Its a sad end for wonderful person and lover of things related to the cinema. He has been heavily involved in more film festivals than anyone I know. Since not everyone knows him, I guess its easy for some here to be real schmucks.
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How ironic.
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Maybe Harry should ask JJ Abrams to see a rough cut of STID too?
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Truly, rewatch Close Encounters or ET or even Raiders. Any darkened scene has them. And Abram's movies have a lot of dark scenes. Not saying he doesn't overdo it (and yes, his are probably largely artificial), just not as much as you might think compared to other movies.
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Its only cynical for me when it's a celebrity, or the media. When it's regular people doing it that don't make press? It just comes off as more genuine. The best good deeds are the ones that you never hear about...Nor want press for. Why would you need recognition for it, anyway? All you need is a mirror... Now watch this story make the news...
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Dec. 30, 2012, 8:37 a.m. CST
I really hope he gets to see the whole film, even if it is a rough cut. A really nice story.
by Wcwlkr
I know you could be cynical about this, but I'd rather think people like to do nice things.
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Dec. 30, 2012, 9:59 a.m. CST
From what little I've heard, he has seen at least a rough assembly cut.
by reflecto
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Dec. 30, 2012, 10:12 a.m. CST
No fan of Abrams by any means, but that was very magnanimous of him.
by Stalkeye
Sorry to hear about this Guy's illness and whatever may give him comfort or solace during his final Days, hey god bless him.
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You're source is absolutely wrong
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But Star Trek is ok too.
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Dec. 30, 2012, 2:50 p.m. CST
Re : gmakin " AICN is terminally ill from cancerous trolls. "
by Real Deal
The sad thing about our free and unregulated internet is that every forum out there is ill from cancerous trolls. They're a sad result of people thinking they're annoymous and they're totally free to abuse that freedom by making other people who are trying to have a serious conversation ( or any kind of conversation ) miserable. Using this story of human kindness as a platform for their dislike for something ( or just to get attention by thinking they're acting clever ) is a real sad commentary on the current state of the human condition. Fortunately what JJ did is also a stament on that condition which gives one hope.
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Dec. 30, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST
Re : dercomrade " real deal: AICN is about trolling! The whole site is a trolling attempt! Oh, wait ... you thought they were serious? ROFL. "
by Real Deal
Yes that's what the trolls would like us to accept as true. That's sad really as it's funny I thought this was a site about film and people who love film. Not a sand box. And you know I really don't think I'm the only one who feels that way.
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It never ceases to amaze me how often the term "hack" gets tossed around on these boards when it comes to writers and directors nowadays. Michael Bay, Brett Ratner, Uwe Boll, even M.Night Shyamalan...these I can understand. But calling Abrams a hack I don't get. Love him or hate him, that's fine...but just because he made a Star Trek film that you do not enjoy does not make him a hack by any means. There's a reason why he's successful in Hollywood and you're just a troll on a web-board...it's called talent...something you obviously lack otherwise we'd be seeing your name in lights and not buried amongst these other fanboy-haters.
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