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Tarantino teases third film in his revisionist history trilogy called KILLER CROW!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I don't know about you fine folks, but the more Quentin Tarantino wants to play with history the more excited I get as a filmgoer. Right now it feels like QT's just having fun and when Tarantino has fun we have fun.
In an interview with Henry Louis Gates Jr. at The Root, Quentin discusses a future feature that would close out his "revisionist history" trilogy that includes Inglourious Basterds and Django Unchained.
This one currently (and tentatively) titled Killer Crow and goes back to WW2 and follows a squad of black troops who have been fucked over by the American military and rage a bloody rampage through Europe as they head for Switzerland.
This story began as a story to be included in Inglourious Basterds back when Tarantino was considering making it a mini-series, but was excised when he decided to make it a feature. Tarantino said it's half-written and that should he make it, the Inglourious Basterds would indeed feature in the story.
I love it. This sounds to me like what I had pictured in my mind when Inglourious Basterds was announced: an epic, bloody men on a mission WW2 movie... in this case the mission is to get the fuck out of dodge and kill Nazis and asshole racist US military people while heading that way.
I really do hope there's a place for Sam Jackson amongst the troop. Then we would get Nick Fury in WW2!
-Eric Vespe
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Dec. 28, 2012, 2:52 p.m. CST
Get ready for the onslaught of posts talking about "hate whitey" rhetoric
by terry1978
Gotta talk to Tarantino about that, he does feel he's an honorary brother.
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for a revisionist tale of the Native Americans vs the Colonials. Natives go all tomahawk on their asses. It would BLOOOODY!
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What's 'revisionist history' about that, BTW? Were they not really oppressed?
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ooooh quentin likes to dabble in revisionist history, where the oppress win, always. God i hate this shit. it doesn't make slavery or the holocaust any better for it...just some lame fuck white boy guilt. not saying that awful shit was awful, the holocaust and what not, but jesus fucking christ, give me a fucking break....ooooh he killed hitler though the real hitler lived longer to kill more people and nothing quentin can do about it, and now, oooooh bunch of black folks got all slavery and shit and treated wrong, so this makes up for that. FUCK THIS SHIT.
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Would be interesting to see "Killer Crow."
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You want to be edgy?
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Dec. 28, 2012, 3:06 p.m. CST
I guess I can give up hope that QT will ever make something akin to Jackie Brown again...
by Uncle Pooky
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Went in with pretty big expectations, and still had a great time. Everybody in the multi-racial crowd loved it. Tarantino may never top PULP FICTION, which was perhaps the last TRUE game-changer we had in American cinema... but damn, he's hit a new stride, making amazingly entertaining historical epics.
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will be Django's grandson as well.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 3:15 p.m. CST
So it's like Avatar only with Black people instead of Blue people?
by Raptor Jesus
Is there a role for Sigourney?
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I'd rather he do that one first because it's new ground, and then get onto the War movie follow-up. A Tarantino 30's gangster movie would be brilliant, probably.. His sensibilities would go hand in hand.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 3:16 p.m. CST
surprised the title isn't NIGGER SQUAD
by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK
that's all I got
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That movie was INCREDIBLE, EXPLOSIVE and RELENTLESS. Bring anything by QT. I hate fucking people who doubt QT. The man's been doing nothing but saving cinema and this is how you repay him? By saying what he does is "lame?" Fuck all of you who say that. -Namaste-
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Maybe we can revisit that old rumor.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 3:18 p.m. CST
Fuck Sigourney. How about Quaritch as the WW2 hardass general who fucks them over.
by frank
You are not in Kansas anymore. Here is Europe. The locals will eat your eyes for jujubes.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 3:19 p.m. CST
QT gives new meaning to the phrase FILM NOIR
by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK
black film
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He talks about doing such and such movie all the time, but we see how many of his envisioned projects become reality.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 3:19 p.m. CST
Django Unchained and Inglorious Basterds are among Tarantino's greatest films
by Nerd Rage
Why the fuck would he avoid making another badass historical "what if" movie? Would you prefer he do another half-hearted project like Death Proof? Tarantino has caught the history bug and it's some of his best work since Pulp Fiction. Sorry that he sympathizes with past victims of white supremacy but not all directors are going to conveniently forget every sin of America's past. If they did it would be creepy and downright Orwellian.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 3:20 p.m. CST
Does this mean Tarantino watched WHERE EAGLES DARE recently?
by The Comrade
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Lets see the Nazi killed millions, invaded Europe and Africa and plunged the world into the worst war in history...lets make the American military look like the bad guys....nice.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 3:22 p.m. CST
They might be QT's =greatest films= but they are not cinema's greatest films.
by frank
that's why.
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years the Indians did go all "tomahawk" on the Colonials..that IS history.
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Those folks (of which I am 1/8) get mighty testy about pretty much anything associated with them these days. Would be fun to see the fallout from that one.
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...because Jackson wouldn't be playing Nick Fury. That was a weirdly 'out there' comment, big guy.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 3:31 p.m. CST
I want a modern revisionist history movie where the poor classes and the minorities of the world
by frank
are killing american and european capitalist pigs and their politician puppets. how about that?
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Dec. 28, 2012, 3:31 p.m. CST
I loved Inglorious Basterds, so another Tarantino romp through World War II is fine by me
by lv_426
After that, maybe he'll tackle a genre he hasn't dabbled in yet... science fiction? Not a Star Wars or Trek style story, but maybe something that merges Tarantino's sensibilities with a sci-fi concept. How about a film set in the 50's or 60's dealing with Area 51 and UFO conspiracy cover-ups and all that jazz? So it would be sort of another revisionist history merged with retro Americana sci-fi.
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Quentin recently said something about how he basically has to adapt Anna Karenina for all of his movies. In other words, his screenplays are all so large he ends up having to leave chunks of material out of most of his finished movies (save for Kill Bill, apparently). He also recently complained about the fact that film is going the way of the dodo and expressed interest in doing actual TV work. Why not? I'd love to see Quentin make a premium cable mini-series.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 3:34 p.m. CST
QT should make the movie adaptation of The Authority superhero comic.
by frank
Ofc he will need at least 100m to do that but ofc HW is not crazy enough to give him the money for this specific group of heroes.
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...with a badass gang it could be pretty cool. I'd much prefer to see him go back to the pulp novels to be honest... plenty of great Elmore Leonard stuff left to tackle.
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I'd be interested in seeing him produce some TV. HBO would be a perfect home for a Tarantino series of miniseries. Maybe he'd write the majority of the episodes, and direct the pilot and season finale, while getting other directors to do the episodes in-between. Kinda like Martin Scorsese directing the pilot for Boardwalk Empire, then overseeing stuff as a producer. TV is called a writer's and producer's medium compared to the director's medium that is theatrical film.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 3:57 p.m. CST
If Tarantino's serious about retiring at sixty...
by Nasty In The Pasty
...I'd rather not see him treading over the same ground with another WWII flick, as much as I loved Basterds. If he were the kid of filmmaker who made a movie every two years or less, I'd love to see it, but if we're only gonna get at most three new films (given his three-year avaerage between films) from him in the next decade, I'd rather see his tackle another genre. A 30's-era gangster flick sounds just right for his sensibilities, and would be a big tip of the hat to De Palma's The Untouchables. Plus, that rat-a-tat-tat Cagney-style dialogue delivery is right up Tarantino's alley.
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I'm surprised he hasn't to be honest.
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QT and Michael Moore should skip off into the sunset celebrating their white guilt together. Me, I am more interested in reality and fixing the shit that's broken.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 4:10 p.m. CST
@malpaso - right, because health care, gun culture, political and corporate corruption aren't real or broken.
by kevred
Having trouble connecting Michael Moore to "white guilt".
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The Vega Brothers and Kill Bill Part 3! Or at least as good as The Whole Bloody Affair! I kid, I kid... Love me some QT.
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Okay, two of them lived. And one of them is the worst actor of em all, Brad Pitt.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 4:23 p.m. CST
How about a revisionist film where the Commaches burn down Washington?
by Smerdyakov
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Dec. 28, 2012, 4:25 p.m. CST
There is more to being black than being a badass mutha fuckin gangsta killa. Is QT a closet racist?
by Pigdog
I know spike Lees view.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 4:26 p.m. CST
How about a film where elementary school kids blow away a nutcake?
by Smerdyakov
Too soon?
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Ask their parents........in person preferably
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Dec. 28, 2012, 4:30 p.m. CST
Lol what? what the fuck do MM's documentaries have to do with white guilt?
by frank
idiot.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 4:45 p.m. CST
CaveJohnson: I want a modern revisionist history movie where the poor classes & the minorities of the world kill american & european capitalist pigs and their political puppets. You mean like the French Revolution?
by Monroville
I think history itself has already done something like that. Spoiler: it didn't end well (chaos and eventually Napoleon).
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Dec. 28, 2012, 4:49 p.m. CST
@monroville but it established the foundation for our democratic world.
by frank
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Didn't you hear his comments on guns just a few days ago (that didn't clue you in)? Granted, his angle is a bit different than the straight, in-yo-face race card baiting, but he carries the same luggage (just in a different kind of bag). For example: BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE. He makes a cartoon inferring that the KKK transferred into the NRA, when the research into the birth of the NRA one will discover... that former President Ulysses S. Grant not only created the NRA, but created it as a means of hunting down the KKK, which at the time was akin to Al Qaeda. Or in other words, Mikey Moore likes to see himself as the man who ties the white guilt to the cause and the source.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 4:54 p.m. CST
Another revenge pic? Anyone else starting to see that Quentin has some major issues?
by Bobo_Vision
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Dec. 28, 2012, 4:56 p.m. CST
I'd rather it was a Native Indian story with a crossover with Lone Ranger, and Johnny Depp's Tonto leading the battle against the soldiers with a crow on his head.
by Bobo_Vision
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Would you rather have another shitty reboot/prequel/sequel or an attempt at something kinda original? Serious question.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 5:12 p.m. CST
Yeah, because i am only waiting for QT to see something original in cinema.
by frank
not to mention that his movies are not exactly original, not when they are reeked with ripoffs,references and tributes to other films.
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I'd rather have actual original material than "something kinda original"
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He would make it about Arab American soldiers in the Iraq war. Or is that *too* on the nose?
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I'm so tired of Tarantino announcing all these promising sounding action epics and then we all end up with is 3 hours of people fucking talking. Enough with this overrated jizzbucket and his infatuation with his own voice.
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That movie changed, hollywood, changed moviemaking, changed careers, started careers. It's still as brilliant today. Basterds is a joke compared to it. How people keep forgetting it is beyond me. I personally couldn't stand Deathproof or Basterds, but that doesn't mean I still don't get excited when QT releases another flick.
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1. If somebody like Django has existed in real life, he would have been lynched after a day or so. You all know this to be true. 2. There were countless massacres of whites by Indians, but since Native Americans had no qualms about torturing and mutilating defenseless women and children, I doubt modern audiences would go for a movie about that. 3. QT should piss off everybody by making a movie about opressesed Palestinians killing their Israeli occupiers.
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It's getting ludicrous. And the blood looks worse than Reservoir Dogs'.
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It makes a lotta sense that the premise originally came from Inglourious Basterds, because if you take away the fact that the squad is black, this sounds pretty much exactly like the premise to The Inglorious Bastards. AND I LOVE IT. Can't wait for this one. I'm sure it will be very, very different though. The original flick isn't even particularly good, but an awesome, enjoyable B-flick nonetheless. Keep 'em comin' Tarantino!
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Yep - still no obituary on the site. Poor.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 6:24 p.m. CST
...was I the only one that noticed that he didn't put on Indian/Native American in Django, which is a western? LOL
by Chris
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Dec. 28, 2012, 6:31 p.m. CST
Between Capone and Quint AICN has become sort of militant, hasn't it?
by eveelcapitalist
Capone revels in dead white people and Quint is glorying in dead American soldiers. I guess I'm gonna have to start calling them Capone X and al-Quint.
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of which I am 8/8 get pretty testy about things nowadays because it's always some pop-bastardization of our culture that more often than not either a) shits on our tradition, or b) makes a mockery of it.
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It was set in Texas/Mississippi during just before the civil war, not the wild west...no need for injans
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One dimensional characters. That is all.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 7:40 p.m. CST
1) HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO TAKE YOUR ASSESSMENT OF CINEMA SERIOUSLY WHEN YOUR USERNAME IS BASED ON LOST?
by Mark
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Dec. 28, 2012, 7:41 p.m. CST
2) DO YOU HAVE THROAT PROBLEMS RESULTING FROM CHOKING SO MUCH ON TARANTINO'S ROD?
by Mark
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A bunch of cows kicking the living shit out of Michael Moore?
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Dec. 28, 2012, 7:42 p.m. CST
LET ME KNOW WHEN TARANTINO CAVES IN AND DECIDES TO DO A LUKE CAGE MOVIE FOR MARVEL. THAT I'LL GIVE A FUCK ABOUT.
by Mark
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Did you see his missive re white people and guns? Despite his own armed bodyguards...he's a limo liberal. Nothing worse imo.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 7:52 p.m. CST
Tarantino making a 30's era Gangster pic or a 'nam movie would be cool too
by lv_426
I'd also love to see him make a true sequel to FROM DUSK TILL DAWN. Gotta get Clooney and Cheech back though. *What, were they psychos?* *Do they look like psychos? Is that what they look like? They were vampires! Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't give a fuck how crazy they are!*
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Yep, the same as every culture/race/ethnicity does to every other culture/race/ethnicity. Only an idiot would argue that what happened to either the American Indians or the slaves brought to America isn't beyond foul and disgusting. It is, and it always will be. But imo, that doesn't mean that everyone needs to be sunburn sensitive with their knee jerk reactions whenever anyone who isn't considered exactly the correct person approaches said culture's/race's/ethnicity's customs and traditions. It's gotten a bit ridiculous, to be honest.
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...I was actually referring to QT doing a movie where the American Indians whooped ass on the white man. But he isn't Indian, and all of the cast and crew wouldn't be Indian, so it would become an epic controversy of the highest order, regardless of what the movie was actually about. Freedom of speech don't mean much these days, unless you're a "church" who wants to picket murdered children's funerals.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 8 p.m. CST
whether or not he likes the nose candy, QT plans his movies like a coke fiend
by Dp
SeehesgonnadoVegaBrothersandthenhesgonnadoKillBill3afterreleasingtheWholeBloodyAffairandhe'sgonnadoaBondmovieandthenaGodzillamovieandremaketheentireWengWengfilmography... Seriously, he promises a crapload that never happens.
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How about *ahistorical* These two films, Inglorious Basterds and Django Unchained, may be interesting or fun or something, but historical they are not. That is, unless you concede that, well, WWII took place, and there was such a thing as slavery in America. Otherwise, there is absolutely nothing historical about them, and I can't believe an intelligent person would believe them to be anything other than fantasy....not that there's anything wrong with fantasy.....that's what movies usually are. So leave off the Revisionist tripe, or some poor devil just might read this site and think, *gee, that's a another good way of looking at real history.* Weeping Jesus on the cross.
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Yeah, we get that. In general, do you really think the AICN contributors and talkbackers are so stupid as to not fully understand those points? It's just a term that's been re-appropriated as a way to describe these movies. Such is the way of the English language.
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Is this the story that was supposed to star Eddie Murphy? Either way, yes please.
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Yes please. Let's face it. He's in the same boat Travolta was in years ago before the Pulp. A Thousand Words and Tower Heist were like giving Einstein an abacus to "play with". Wasted talent. Please include him. I haven't even seen Django yet and I know it's good. You're welcome. Peace out.
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Feels like it's been done already. Yawn.
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Make a movie about whitey killing annoying black guys and call it killing crows i'm sorry
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Just got out of it an hour ago. Really disappointed. Kept expecting to care. Love Basterds, but this was...dunno, not captivating.
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pretty much cemented how much I disliked the movie. Completely took me out of the film. COMPLETELY.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 10:41 p.m. CST
a sequel to IB sounds wack and white guilt is the new race card. Being empathetic doesn't equate to guilt silly racists!!
by sanford and gun
Yeah, I'm Oprah Duke. They Blacklisted me, but I'm back with the new shit until they Blacklist me again. <p> Aintitcool?
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Dec. 28, 2012, 10:43 p.m. CST
Is Django revisionist history? I didn't see it yet but, does anything historical get changed?
by DarthBlart
I thought it was a story set in the old west.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 11:25 p.m. CST
Revisionist history you say? Great, let's have one where these 3 fucking diabolically shithole movies are erased.
by quantize
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Dec. 28, 2012, 11:30 p.m. CST
Anyone who says they loved basterds is dead to me..you're blind,deaf and an idiot. It's like childrens scribbles compared to his earler films
by quantize
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Dec. 28, 2012, 11:44 p.m. CST
Can we just get the Kill Bill: Whole Bloody Affair on DVD/Bluray already dammit?!
by ShabbyBlue
The films are almost 10 yrs old now and we are STILL waiting for him to finally release that single extended cut. It's ridiculous how long we've been waiting. Has he just forgotten about it or given up on the idea since he'd rather focus on new ideas than return to an old one? Sigh....
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..his Anabasis/The Warriors so anybody who has an issue shut the fuck up. BTW its not like he has a deal lined up. Remember "The Vega Brothers" and "Kill the Bride"? Exactly its just an interview when he has something he'll get it up and runnin everyone cool out..cool out...COOL OUT!!!
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Helen Keller was not deaf/blind due to genetics. Her mother had scarlet fever during pregnancy.
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Murphy would be great with Tarantino's dialogue
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Dec. 29, 2012, 12:36 a.m. CST
Nam and WWII are old ground. How about the Chosin Reservoir?
by SunTzu77
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Dec. 29, 2012, 1:07 a.m. CST
IS there a time Quentin DIDN'T have fun? And thus we didn't have fun?
by D.Vader
Curious about what that statement means...
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The original, I mean.
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But one of those would require QT to not write dialogue like QT.
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where godzilla beats the shit out of that monkey with weird electrical powers? and then fucks that ape's corpse in the ass with his tiny japanese dick? and that bitch bug with yellow cocaine coming from its wings twin bastard larvae. Godzilla was blitzed off his ass from that yellow cocine shit to let two little faggot worms coccoon his jap ass. the next movie with that 3 headed dildo thing was cool as shit. ghidra i think it was. rodan was rad adversary turned friend and then that faggot larvae showed up. i thought they were two? those silly jap child molesters make good entertainment. fuck self hatin whiteys im racist as hell, all races, my own included, are dumb. we are all gonna be sucking chink commie penis here shortly.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 2:28 a.m. CST
@monroville: Revisionist history at it's best. Congrats. All your 'facts' are WRONG.
by The Comrade
- Ulysses S. Grant was merely the 8th president of the NRA. He did not create it. - The NRA was not created to hunt down the KKK. It was created because some people thought the markmanship of soldiers in the civil war was really, really bad. Their solution was to improve the markmanship of the general populace, which now included former slaves in former states with slavery. THAT didn't sit well with the KKK. But it wasn't hunted down. Seems Moore knows more than you about American history.
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So there are these black American soldiers who kill their way through Europe, leaving a trail of dead Nazis, Italian fascists and racist Allied troops on their way to the safe neutral zone of Switzerland, where they... settle down and invent chocolate, skiing and the cuckoo clock. Man, that's going to piss off a **lot** of cuckoo clock aficionados.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 4:14 a.m. CST
This is possibly the most retarded of his ideas yet. The Negroectomy episode of South Park sums ups this dickhead..
by Baron Von Penguin
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make a movie about the beginning of the slave trade, you know, when all the slaves were captured in raids by rival African tribes and then sold to the Portugese, English, etc. for copper bracelets and whatnot. Oh wait, you didn't know that Europeans hardly captured any African slaves themselves, that they just bought them from chieftains who had been practicing slavery since the dawn of humanity and still continued to practice it after it was banned in the West. The Europeans didn't have to even make the dangerous trek into the African interior, there were slave ports on the coasts set up by the African kings to sell their neighbors. It had proven to be very lucrative for the larger victorious tribes. African leaders had been selling war prisoners to the Arabs as slaves for a thousand years, so it was all old hat to them by the time of Columbus. Interesting stuff. Somebody could make a flick about that.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stdfGvii3j4
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Dec. 29, 2012, 7:37 a.m. CST
i must be the only muthereffer that thought Basterds was lame
by MJAYACE
So dissapointing to me. Res Dogs, Kill Bill and Pulp are Tarantinos best by far.
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Trade them in for toys for your children, dress them in proper clothes... Wait. Which talkback was the condescending one? Was it this one or Capone's Django one?
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Dec. 29, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST
After seeing every Tarantino movie I can honestly say he is massively over rated, and a lazy fucker
by papabendi
He has absolutely nothing to say. As soon as his characters talk nothing flows. It feels like every word has been writen by a coked up script writer with no editor.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 8:55 a.m. CST
Oh and enough of the slave history. just becasue africans sold them does not make it right to have owned them
by papabendi
It has becoming the lamest excuse to try and gloss over one of the most shameful and least dignified periods in human history.
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People complain about the violence in his flicks, but he's starting to remind me of this female professor (white) who has built an entire career focused on African-American studies. She's never going to be wrong and can stand in simple black and white judgment of history and its treatment of blacks. I'm not saying she's wrong for her stance...but it's safe. No one can ever attack her. I think a really bold filmmaker would ask balls out questions, like, why did the German state hate the Jews so much? Were they really simple victims (ala Basterds)? Or did they possess some twisted value system or way of moving in the world that pissed off people enough to condone mass genocide? Real growth can't come without asking a few icky, politically incorrect questions, people.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 9:15 a.m. CST
@icetitan i wonder how they will react when Lone Ranger comes out.
by frank
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Dec. 29, 2012, 9:28 a.m. CST
We definately need a Basterds prequel. We got the Jedi Basterds story and now we need an empire
by UltraTron
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Dec. 29, 2012, 9:28 a.m. CST
So all Quentin can think of after BASTERDS and DJANGO is to COMBINE THEM INTO ONE MOVIE??? What a fucking IDIOT
by golden tribw
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Dec. 29, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST
How about a movie about how blacks kill more whites than the other way around.
by Banned-ki-moon
Oh, but that wouldn't be revisionism.
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The evil dead ... With a mostly black cast. They find the negronomico. Justice league dark ... All black justice league cyborg John Stewart and black lightning and black vulcan. Wow i just realized that marvel superheroes of African descent are soo much more awesome and DC's ... Black sunday ... The retelling of the Hindenburg disaster w nazi generals being on board when it blew up The north and the south... Civil war with southerns being vampires. The evil ones not the sparkly ones. And remake various gangster, wwii, and samuri films.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 10:51 a.m. CST
banned ki-moon is a racist!! Blacks dont kill more whites than whites kill blacks. Racist math will dupe some, but not me.
by sanford and gun
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Dec. 29, 2012, 10:52 a.m. CST
QT should just start remaking his own movies! The possibilities are endless! In his remake of Pulp Fiction he can cite from Django Unchained. His meta-circle will be complete.
by The Comrade
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No mention at all that I can find ANYWHERE on the site... I assume there will be some excuse like "Wanted to put together a fitting tribute.." Whatever.. its pathetic. For shame Harry.
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For those that don't know: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-20845407
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FACT!
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Would much rather see him take on the 30's gangster film or the 60s-70s Spy Film. Either of those I can get behind, this idea is kind of lame
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Jesus fuck people! We get it. Gerry Anderson died! We also get that AICN picks and chooses who they do obituaries for. This is OLD FUCKING NEWS! Say your piece and move on already.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST
I wonder if the one person with multiple user names who only writes in the Subject line...
by Jaka
....realizes that it's painfully obvious they are completely fucking mental?
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People want to write about the memories that Gerry Anderson gave them through his shows - shows which many, many people hold dear to their hearts. I think your post, particularly the subject line, is incredibly disrespectful.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 1:22 p.m. CST
Django Unchained wasn't a western, nearly the whole movie was in the South
by Jt
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I would love to see his take on Eliot Ness, Al Capone and the Untouchables.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 2:15 p.m. CST
Set it during WWI and make it based on the segregated 369th.
by whatevillurks
The "Harlem Hellfighters". They barely made it out of the South alive during training. I have a great uncle who was in company see C, he was nominated for but did not receive the Croix De Guerre. Wouldnt mind seeing QT's take on Woodrow Wilson and his war for "democracy".
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Dec. 29, 2012, 2:29 p.m. CST
korus1234 is a racist!! Africans sold to Europeans after 12 centuries of warfare on the continent by Arabs and Europeans. FACT!! s
by sanford and gun
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Dec. 29, 2012, 2:32 p.m. CST
I wonder if Jaka is shorthand for jackass? (more inside)
by sanford and gun
Yep.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 2:34 p.m. CST
How about that Half-Life movie, he wanted to make a few decades ago?
by frank
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Dec. 29, 2012, 2:47 p.m. CST
He should do a revisionist historical autobio-pic about himself
by Barnald
Actually he should do something more along the lines of European colonialism in the caribbean during the 15th century. We already seen his WWII schtick
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Dec. 29, 2012, 3:31 p.m. CST
Somebody let me know when Lil' Quentin grows up and decides to make another Jackie Brown
by Larry_Sanders
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Dec. 29, 2012, 3:42 p.m. CST
"The Slaughter: An American Tragedy," states that in 1943, at Camp Van Dorn near Centreville, in southwestern Mississippi, more than 1,200 Black soldiers from the 364th Infantry Division were murdered in cold blood by the U.S. Army.
by sanford and gun
A book released 1998, "The Slaughter--An American Tragedy," states that in 1943, at Camp Van Dorn near Centreville, in southwestern Mississippi, more than 1,200 Black soldiers from the 364th Infantry Division were murdered in cold blood by the U.S. Army. <p> Avenge this shit Quentin!! Black America got'cha back!! <p> Except Spike Lee of course.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 3:46 p.m. CST
The Slaughter: An American Atrocity is the correct title of the book.
by sanford and gun
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1 Jamie foxx is an actor 2 southerners would have shoot jango fett. On site. And claimed he rapped someone. Yes rap was a killable offense in the precivil war era. 3 Southerners would have killed his funny talking dr friend. No one who talks funny and is a friend of blacks would be trusted in the south back then. Or now. 4 mandingo fighting to the death inside a mansion. Everyone knows they did that in a thunderdome. 5 QT takes me out of the movie criticism. You can't recognize him because hes face has gone through a jigsaw type transformation so i don't buy anyone even recognizing him 6 where are the damn vampires ? 7 shouldn't Samuel l Jackson have a nekkid blonde girl chained up 8 most of the weapons used inn the movie had not been
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Dec. 29, 2012, 4:54 p.m. CST
How about a revisionist tale of the country that ALMOST became America
by Teddy Artery
"How the West Was Won Back"...A tale where the Indians successfully banded together to repel the foreign invaders and ensure a lasting peace among the Indian nations.
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"Kill Paleface" or "The White Plague" (with apologies to Frank Herbert).
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Dec. 29, 2012, 4:59 p.m. CST
Sanford and gun, so now math is racist? Wow, you people will blame everything but yourselves! Here's some stats fo dat stoopid azz!
by Banned-ki-moon
-Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving Blacks and Whites, Blacks commit 85 percent and Whites commit 15 percent. -Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. 45 percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are Black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When Whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are Black. -Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a White than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 5:09 p.m. CST
Furthermore, Sanford and gun (appropriate name, btw)...
by Banned-ki-moon
From the DOJ website - http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/tables/ovracetab.cfm Percent of All Homicides by Racial Composition of Victims and Offenders Stats from 2005 Black on white - 8.8% White on black - 3.2% Let me guess: more racist math from a racist website on the racist internet being typed from my racist computer.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 5:11 p.m. CST
Here's a hint for you: racial profiling by the police. You're significantly more likely to come under unwarranted police scrutiny if you're black.
by The Comrade
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Sociological studies, lol. So why aren't black guys writing these studies? That pretty much answers the "why" question.
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That just sucks.
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Just look at all the poor neighborhoods that are either all black or Hispanic and you see why blacks are way more I violent in crimes and especially violent crimes than whites. Fact. That's why jails are full of them. Fix the poverty and get people educated and this will get better. Yhis movie is more black revenge porn
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Dec. 29, 2012, 6:52 p.m. CST
Only a white man could have brought us a movie like DJANGO UNCHAINED.
by Nintendarth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDmJ4RS0mKU BTW - love how the V/O only announces the white people's names in the end. Eat it, Quentin, you thieving thief of a thief.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 7:30 p.m. CST
Racial profiling. Sure, it happens and is inexcusable and unfair.
by Banned-ki-moon
But that has what to do with crime, homicide, etc.?
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It was used because it worked. And there's all kind of profiling. Race, age , gender, ect. Ask a Cop We don't really need to pat down white jewish grandma at the airport.
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Until I realized that he keeps making the same movie over and over again, and it's not even a very good movie. The luster of Pulp Fiction has long since worn off. The endless, mean-spirtied violence has begun to really disturb me. Tarantino says that he will retire from film after two more films, and the film world will be better off without him. Go see Life of Pi instead.
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Hell—Cloud Atlas is more worthwhile than DU... Daring, high-wire filmmaking on a grand scale. That movie came from the Washowski's hearts.
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...in interviews, he's prone to making very simplistic and knee-jerk statements about race and racism... and yet if you watch his movies, it's as if they were directed by someone else entirely. Example: Remember when Spike snapped at an interviewer "Black people aren't racist?" And yet there's a beautifully played scene in Inside Man where an African-American cop is called out, essentially, for engaging in a subtle form of racism (assuming that a Sikh civilian is a Muslim).
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You could see his obsession from the tones and undertones of racism in all of his movies. I'm not being apologetic about the issue at all, but it's a downer when I watch a Lee movie and his burden becomes a caricature in all his films. He's talented, but if he were to let go and just have some fun for once, I'd think we'd see him tap into his most fully realized potential. He's letting his own skeletons ride his films. He can do whatever he wishes, but he was very wrong in attacking Tarantino and pulling the race card. Again, an example of Lee's skeletons seeping out into the real world and even dictating his fantasy agendas amongst his film peers.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 10:26 p.m. CST
I don't actually care what anybody thinks of me as a talkbacker or my posts in general (more inside)
by Jaka
Process, actually THINK about what I'm posting, or don't. I don't actually care either way. But I've been here for a long ass time, and anybody who has any kind of a history with my posts perfectly well understood that my frustration was with the constant bitching about a lack or obituaries for every single person who dies in EVERY. SINGLE. TALKBACK. And some of them go on for months! The disrespect was clearly directed at the inane posting of those complaints, not Gerry Anderson. Lastly, since not a single one of you ACTUALLY KNEW HIM, or any of the other people who die, get the fuck over your own self-righteous bullshit, already. People die, it's sad. May they all rest peacefully. But the constant complaining about AICN not doing an obituary for each and every one of them is sadly idiotic. Even worse, once somebody posted an obit for Gerry Anderson, the talkback is FILLED with complaints that it isn't good enough. lol
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Dec. 29, 2012, 10:31 p.m. CST
The name of Spike Lee's production company is 40 Acres & A Mule Filmworks
by Jaka
He has an agenda, anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves. I don't fault him for that. Hell, more power to him if that's the road he wants to travel. But in my opinion he's on the side that continues to poor salt and lemon into the already obviously gaping wounds, instead of looking for solutions, or ways to heal them. Spike WANTS to make people uncomfortable and he does a very fine job of it.
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...but I believe Tarantino and Gates will act stupidly.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 11:23 p.m. CST
Haha, Banned-Ki-Moon...your mouth is writing checks the FBI Hate Crimes Statistics won't cash.
by Baked
On another note, Quentin Tarantino is notable for making movies that minority directors could never get away with. And for that, I am highly amused.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 11:27 p.m. CST
banned ki moon, you stupid racist!! Your math doesn't account for black/white encounter rates. Blacks are 12% of the population. (more inside)
by sanford and gun
The average white person has a 3% encounter rate when it comes to encountering a black person.<p> The average black person has a 57% encounter rate when it comes to encountering a white person.<p> When you adjust for this...(using the raw numbers that you so graciously provided)<p> Whites victimized blacks at a 50% higher rate than is statistically possible (considering the white to black encounter rate is 3%) <p> If you're gonna do the math, do it all.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 11:28 p.m. CST
Civil War started in 1861. Seriously, white folks, stop calling Django revisionist/alternate history or historical fantasy. It's just HISTORICAL FICTION.
by Baked
In order for it to be revisionist, it has to take a specific historical event and completely change it. That shit doesn't happen in the movie. It's no more alternate history or historical fantasy than The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly or Unforgiven or True Grit. White reviewer: "Black guy killed some white people! SUCH FANTASTICAL EVENTS!!!!" Black people killed LOTS of white people right before the Civil War. That was the style of the time.
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im with you 1000000%. id much rather see his take on the mobster 30's. we've seen his WW2 take, now we've seen his 'civil war-ish' take, and i suppose if the theme/setting of 'war' is the constant that runs through this 'trilogy' of sorts, then perhaps WW1 or maybe even vietnam could be a way to go... however the 'mob wars' in chicago & the 30's & such would fit in nicely with that whole idea. and again, i'd much rather see that than another trip to WW2. though in a way, the idea of this 'killer crow' does tie together IG & DU. so i guess it's fitting. it's just his version of those 30's mobsters would be something we haven't seen already. and if he truly is calling it quits after #10, then i'd rather see new stuff while we can.
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Dec. 30, 2012, 1:08 a.m. CST
HISTORICAL FICTION? No, we're growing so dumb that we'll someday take it as the 'truth.' "Hey, Mom, today I learned all about slavery in DJANGO UNCHAINED."
by The Comrade
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Dec. 30, 2012, 3:41 a.m. CST
He misses the mark with his revisionism. It reeks of fantasy, denial, delusion and laziness.
by Charlie
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Yes I'm black and I wasn't offended my girl that I went with wasn't offended. Granted I love Westerns anyway, but to see a Western with a Black Man as the lead, and taking revenge against disgusting racists slave owners! I loved that movie, and Christoph Waltz deserves another OSCAR. Easily my favorite movie of the year. When I first heard the concept of Killer Crow I was like uh I don't know. But after seeing Django I was suprised and how much I loved that movie. So I'm willing to jump on board and see where QT goes.
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You're straining to try to troll for some good black crime statistics. Get real. Blacks are in jail tons because they commit tons of crimes and violent crimes. Fact. Writing it doesn't make it false.
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I agree that there have been moments, both in Spike Lee's movies and in his public statements, when he can be preachy and simplistic on the topic of race. But I also think there have been a lot of moments when he engages the topic of race in a much more interesting manner. A lot of Lee's most memorable characters have been, for want of a better phrase, "likeable racists". Think of that final scene in Do the Right Thing when Sal loses his shit and screams the N-word at his customers. It's a gripping scene because by that point, we've gotten to know Sal; we like Sal; we believe him to be a basically decent human being, a guy who tries to "do the right thing" and usually succeeds. We're saddened and a little horrified to see him behave this way, but we also find his behavior believable. We understand how it comes about that a guy like Sal would pull out the N-word in a moment of fury. And that's uncomfortable to watch, in a good way. It's quite different from the way racists are usually portrayed onscreen-- as idiots, buffoons, or sheer unadulterated villains-- as People Totally Unlike Us.
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the nation of islam.
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Dec. 30, 2012, 10:21 a.m. CST
corphilhicks. Thanks for not even attempting to counter the facts. But you had to say something because the truth hurts. Understandable, but you'll grow from it.
by sanford and gun
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Dec. 30, 2012, 10:22 a.m. CST
@corplhicks: You know what's also a fact? Racial bias on all levels of judiciary and executive. But you don't want to hear that, do you?
by The Comrade
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Dec. 30, 2012, 10:27 a.m. CST
harveymanfrenjenson. Sal is like a lot of white guys here on aintitcool.com. They seem cool until a movie like Django comes out and then that hidden racism rises to the surface.
by sanford and gun
Spike was a genius for writing Sal in that nuanced manner.
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Dec. 30, 2012, 10:58 a.m. CST
I GET IT! 'It's historical fantasy because my Southern elementary school didn't teach me about all this violence and racism!'
by Baked
Except for the part where it actually happened. The face masks? Authentic. The neck irons with the barbs on them? Well-documented. http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42554000/jpg/_42554053_masks.jpg The mandingo fighting? Yeah, that's also real. The dogs and the beatings and the rape? Legit. Even the lynch mobs riding around with hoods are historically accurate. The KKK didn't invent that. Hell, QT was accurate down to the strict gun control in Southwestern towns at the time, showing why Schultz didn't draw his pistol and had to use a hidden wrist gun in order to kill his attacker. The fantasy is that the characters never existed, not that the social mores and relationships never existed. And that no more makes this story fantasy than Law and Order or ER or Kramer vs. Kramer. It's fiction. It's historical. It's historical fiction. Push against reality all you want, it tends to be an inflexible, infuriating, and indifferent fuck.
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I trust her rather than your elementary school teacher. http://www.nextmovie.com/blog/is-mandingo-fighting-a-real-thing/
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Black soldiers who served honorably in WWII. Eisenhower helped integrate the army, and blacks serving alongside whites helped with desegregation postwar. But that's not as much "fun," I guess.
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Dec. 30, 2012, 11:39 a.m. CST
Anyone who says QT is overrated and has no talent should automatically be banned for being stupid.
by notcher
I am so glad I don't hate life like they do. QT can do whatever the fuck he wants because his shit is awesome and innovative and fresh and because it SEEMS easy people here hate on him because deep down they know it's not. Fuck the haters, QT rules ALL!
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Differing opinions are scary, aren't they? Grow up.
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Dec. 30, 2012, 11:55 a.m. CST
jjheatseeker. I respect that historian you cited. She didn't rule it out, just said their is no evidence of it. If it happened it was probably some underground shit anyway and very rare.
by sanford and gun
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With the addition of US soldiers killing other US soldiers, of course. And, undoubtedly, not as much humor as the Kelly's Heroes, which is a damn funny action/war movie. Meh...
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I respect your opinion. She's not saying it could not have possibly happened, but it's not likely, and she's DEFINITELY not using it to deny slavery. However, my suspicion is that QT's "research" amounted to watching Mandingo (presumably with little Harry in the same theatre.) he compares Mandingo to Showgirls, which of course is a stunning expose of the plight of sex workers...
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Military historians will shit a beick
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I don't have to star coat reality with alternative truths because the truth hurts. Bill Cosby feels the same and says so. Fix the family values and create opportunity and u can help this
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...but kind of lame for the the 'trilogy' to be WWII, Western, & then WWII again.
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Dec. 30, 2012, 3:07 p.m. CST
I cite social science and corplhicks cites Bill (recent as 2006 history of cheating on his wife Camille) Cosby on Personal Responsibility in the Black Community. Just. Stop. Dude.
by sanford and gun
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Dec. 30, 2012, 3:09 p.m. CST
Anybody Notice How Sam Jackson In Django Was Made Up To Look Like Bill Cosby?
by sanford and gun
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Dec. 30, 2012, 3:10 p.m. CST
Bill Cosby was a terrible father, his own daughter has stated that in interviews...
by Jt
so don't bring him up when he is guilty of what he accuses other people of. Bill Cosby is a mega hypocrite.
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