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Capone says the engrossing DJANGO UNCHAINED masterfully combines the horror of slavery with the joy of killing white folks!!!
Hey everyone. Capone in Chicago here.
I'm not going to get into a discussion about whether or not the latest offering from writer-director Quentin Tarantino uses the N-word one too many times (or a hundred too many times). I suspect that the word is used as much in the movie (and in the same historical usage) as it was in the time period and place that is portrayed here: the deep South, two years prior to the Civil War. Maybe I'm wrong, and I'll admit it took me a while to get over the shock of hearing the word so many times. But DJANGO UNCHAINED isn't about a word; it's about the slave culture that gave birth to it.
Pay particular attention to the extraordinary performance by Christoph Waltz as Dr. King Schultz, a German-born bounty hunter who enlists the help of a slave named Django (Jamie Foxx, as physically and emotionally committed as I've ever seen him in any role). Waltz played a notorious Jew hunter in Tarantino's last film, INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS, and in that work, he uttered the word Jew with such venom that it almost burned your ears to hear it. But when Schultz and most other characters use the N-word in DJANGO UNCHAINED, it's simply the word of choice back in the day. Intent is the key, and while there are certainly plenty of characters here that flat out hate blacks across the board, for the most part, the word is not used as hate speech. At least that's what I tell myself to sleep better at night.
Although you can certainly look at DJANGO UNCHAINED as an atypical Western (or more rightly, a Southern), a revenge film or an adventure picture, I saw it as a buddy cop movie in which Django and Schultz are thrown together because Schultz is chasing a pair of outlaws known as the Brittle Brothers, and Django is the only person who knows what they look like. Django agrees to help track down the outlaws if Schultz, in turn, agrees to find Django's long-lost wife Broomhilda (Kerry Washington), from whom he was separated after the two tried to escape.
Django's longing for his beloved consumes his soul, and we get visions of her (both in flashback and in fantasy) as seen through his eyes, which show her as a stunning vision of beauty and the source of his greatest pain. After the Brittles are dispensed with, Schultz realizes that having a freed slave as a partner has its advantages—if only for the shock value, since blacks were not allowed to ride horses at the time—and as the two go in search for Broomhilda, they also collect a few more bounties along the way.
The reason I say the film is a buddy film is that the best moments are when Django and Schultz are simply trotting along, learning from each other. Django is learning everything from how to be cunning to vocabulary words, while Schultz gets some understanding of what it's like for his companion to be seen as something less than human. Schultz is smart enough to use this to their advantage, since very often their targets don't perceive a threat from a man introduced as Schultz's valet. To others, Django is regarded as a free slave who can say and do whatever a white man can, and this angers so many in the south that Schultz can get the upper hand while the criminal is busy trying to contemplate Django. It's a wonderful set of games that the two men play, and watching them set each other up for the next "dead or alive" bounty is a great deal of fun.
The film takes a dramatic shift into the land of the bizarre when we're introduced to Broomhilda's owner, plantation owner and certifiable crazy person Calvin Candie (Leonardo DiCaprio). Through Candie we are introduced to all sorts of Southern traditions, including the almost too extreme to witness Mandingo fighting, where two slaves (of different owners) fight bare-knuckle style in a room while the owners cheer and jeer on. The particular fight featured here is savage stuff, and it's clear that these battles are sometimes fought to the death. There was a time in Django's life where seeing a fight like this might not have phased him, but after his time with Schultz, he's almost too disgusted by the practice to watch. To get his wife, Django and Schultz pose as men looking to purchase a Mandingo fighter from Candie, and the offer intrigues the Candie-man enough to invite the two men into his home.
At the Candie plantation, we meet one of the most despicable characters in any film made in 2012, and Samuel L. Jackson would have it no other way as he portrays Stephen, the balding, white-haired head servant, who sees Django as the ultimate threat to his very existence. He's suspicious of Django and Schultz from the minute they step foot on the property, and he refuses to give the freed slave any manner of respect. Jackson hasn't eaten a character alive quite like this in some time. And in one particular scene, we get a much clearer sense of what the true master-servant relationship is between Stephen and Candie. If DJANGO UNCHAINED has a real villain, it is Stephen, who enjoys his position and life and will do anything to defend it.
I haven't really talked about the violence in DJANGO UNCHAINED, but make no mistake, that's not because there's none to talk about. Quite the contrary, the film is armed to the teeth with all manner of horrific gun wounds, a man torn apart by four horses, whippings, and every kind of brutality. Blood flows and splatters freely, but in the end, it's not among the film's more enduring or memorable aspects. What rules here are the performances, especially from Waltz, Jackson and DiCaprio—which is not to say that Foxx isn't quite good here. It is not his normal approach to any material to be so reserved and stoic, which of course makes it all the more alarming when he cuts loose in fits of murder.
Tarantino's usual filmic references are there in both story, casting and music cues, but in many ways, these touchstones are secondary and less interesting with each passing work. I'm not saying spotting the original Django, Franco Nero, in one scene didn't make me giddy, but in many cases these moments took me out of the film more than they drew me in. The strange array of cameos is also hit (Walton Goggins) and miss (sorry, Jonah Hill). Despite a few bloated sequences toward the middle and very end, DJANGO UNCHAINED spends most of its extended running time coiled tight like a rattlesnake ready to lunge. Sometimes it just makes your heart race a little faster from all of the excitement; other times is strikes you dead on. Either way, this creature is a fucking blast.
-- Steve Prokopy
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It's nice when somebody makes the effort around here
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Dec. 28, 2012, 1:38 a.m. CST
Yes, now we are talking about a real movie not some pretentious musical from a hack director
by Jt
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...and Miss Ho's all those slaving bitches. Parity is restored! Seriously though I can't wait to see this. QT yet to fail me.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 1:45 a.m. CST
Fritz the horse for best supporting actor
by CRISPIN_GLOVERS_ACID_FLASHBACK
Seeing DJANGO UNCHAINED was the most fun I've had in a movie theater all year. The shootout at Candie Land was on par with the bloodiest and best Hong Kong cinema killfests.
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OF COURSE! Of course.
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Oh wait, that's me. DAMN IT!
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If anybody has a problem with the liberal use of the "N-word" here, QT uses it in the EXACT same way Mel Brooks did in "Blazing Saddles" about 40 years ago. Black people weren't offended then because they knew the white people who used that word were idiots; people got what Mr. Brooks was trying to do. It's exactly what QT is trying to do.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 1:59 a.m. CST
I consider Django Unchained to be an answer to Birth of a Nation
by AntonStark
Birth of a Nation was a landmark innovative film masterpiece and it has stood for nearly a century as the only truly great film about racism... a western hero fantasy film... a film that vilified an entire race who were actually innocent victims and lionized the most evil people in western civilization in the last 2 centuries other than the outright genocidal Nazis. It has stood as one of the greatest films. Now, 98 years later, Django Unchained is western hero fantasy about racism, but now the true victim rises to be a hero and the true villains are vanquished. Instead of the KKK riding to the rescue of white women who are being raped and tortured and murdered by black men, it is a black man riding to the rescue of his black wife from the evil white men who rape and torture and will most definitely kill her is some kind of horrific way. A masterpiece film by a master film maker to answer for the masterpiece film by a master filmmaker. This film will stand the test of time and will seal Quinten Tarrantino's legacy as one of the greatest film makers ever.
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An enlightened attitude that could only come from our leftist betters. But that's not what I wish to gripe about. Rather it's this surprise shown by many critics who have all suddenly realized after 20 plus years that Quentin Tarantino movies all contain frequent uses of the N-word. For example, Tarantino's "Dead N*gger Storage" speech in Pulp Fiction. Anyone? Anyone? Come ON! No one breathed a fucking word about that but NOW the critics are up in arms? For a rather long time now I've operated under the assumption you people actually watched the movies you criticized. Boy was I wrong! Not that Capone addresses the issue directly, rather he takes the subject and turns it into an opportunity for self-indulgent narcissism while sitting on his high horse and reveling in dead white people. Out-fucking-standing.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 2:07 a.m. CST
eveelcapitalist...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAryFIuRxmQ
by Brandon
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Dec. 28, 2012, 2:11 a.m. CST
SPOILERS- It's a bloated mess of a film. QT gets way too much of a free pass
by Humie Bubbie
I'm not talking about the race stuff, that's all fine by me. Purely from a storytelling point of view, it's ridiculous. Schultz is an amazing character and Waltz plays him beautifully. But there is no way the man we were presented in the first half of the film would do what he does in the latter half of the film. Django had earned enough money to buy his wife back at an enormous profit to Candie. The elaborate charade wasn't needed. The handshake scene was such a forced plot point, and Schultz was all about doing things safely and with a plan. Seeing one slave brutally killed could not have changed the man's character that much in the course of a day.
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While I agree that the film is a bloated mess that borders on greatness and god awfulness at times, I think you are nitpicking. People do things out of character all of the time. Was it an elaborate plot point to get the characters there for a big showdown? Sure. But I don't find the doctor's actions to be unrealistic. The film has many more problems than that anyway. Like shitty editing, QT's cameo, Bell's character build-up, a few poor choices in songs (can't believe I'm saying that about a QT film), and some serious tone issues.
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Bar-Kays 5/1
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Maybe a little too much "white guilt" for Capone to truly review this. Unfortunate. Seems like he enjoyed it.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 2:45 a.m. CST
Honestly, I'd say the one time the N word is used in Lincoln was more offensive than every time it was uttered in Django
by Mel
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thehumanbubble's points are pretty dead on, but at some point you have to have a movie and for that I excuse Tarantino. The real problem I had with this movie was the third act. There's an amazing shoot-out and what should have been the climax ends up being a false Return of the King ending. When the real climax comes, it's a bit of a foregone conclusion and thus somewhat dampens the excitement. One thing that I really noticed was Sally Menke's absence. I can't quite put my finger on it, but there was a certain amount of electricity missing from some of the classic Tarantino "villain knows what's going on but insists on toying with the protagonists before unleashing the fury" scenes. For my money, the best scene Tarantino ever shot was the bar scene in Basterds. The tension there was ratcheted up to such a degree that it was almost unbearable. DiCaprio really gives it his all here and is memorable but nothing really approaches that level of greatness. Waltz manages to take a character that is basically Hans Landa flipped in the other direction and make you love him despite the same-y feeling. Foxx really doesn't unleash the sass until late in the game, but when he does it's awesome. I would put this effort on the same level of Pulp Fiction. Awesome flick, suffers from some pacing problems and a so-so climax. For the record my favorite Tarantino films are Basterds, both Kill Bills, and Reservoir Dogs.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 3:01 a.m. CST
Tarantino is a one-note director. If you've seen one of his films, you've seen them all.
by jamesonian
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Dec. 28, 2012, 3:07 a.m. CST
it took me a while to get over the shock of hearing the word so many times.
by Windowlicker74
jezus christ it's just a fucking movie.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 3:11 a.m. CST
Ironhelix;No need to make a movie since there is 400 years of it already and on your local 6 o'clock news.
by Cedric Ford
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Dec. 28, 2012, 3:15 a.m. CST
oh and you don't have to watch a movie if you love watching blacks killing whites
by Windowlicker74
just come to johannesburg (and they rape 'em first:) ah good ol' Africa
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Dec. 28, 2012, 3:18 a.m. CST
What is with the whole backlash of a former slave killing white slave owners? Nobody makes a peep when there is a movie about Germans in WW2 getting killed.
by Cedric Ford
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Dec. 28, 2012, 3:23 a.m. CST
And to play devils advocate for this post,you hear the N word at least a dozen times in most rap songs and other movies. So enough of it made me uncomfortable crap.
by Cedric Ford
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Dec. 28, 2012, 3:36 a.m. CST
OH AND WHY DOES QT SHY AWAY FROM FEMALE NUDITY IN HIS MOVIES!!! HIS USE OF VIOLENCE AND THE WORD "NIGGER" SUGGEST AN ARRESTED ADOLESCENCE BUT THE LACK OF SEXUALITY SAYS ALL SORTS OF THINGS ABOUT HIM!!!FACT!!! I MEAN.....
by creepythinmanrises
He and Robert Rodriguez seem to regard women, sex and nudity the way little boys do. Kerry Washington's tit was the first time I've ever seen anything in the way of nudity, I think, in a QT movie but he sure was eager to show us Django's cock and balls hanging out and being groped.
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They should make a sequel where Django travels overseas and takes vengeance on the African tribal chiefs that sold he and his ancestors into slavery to the white devils...........Oh, wait, that movie won't get made because it isn't as sexy as killing white folks.
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I'd accept that it was out of character if Schultz hadn't just given Django that speech on how he didn't plan to die there. Schultz knew that pulling the trigger would mean his death. He was so cool in crazy circumstances before that point, that to me it felt really forced to see him lose his cool at a point when he could walk away. The shitty editing might just prove how important Sally Menke was to QT, like sirloin says. Though I think the scenes weren't shot to be as tense as the IB bar scene was. That had coverage of small moments and the tension was in the writing as well. Schultz was just oblivious to Candie knowing what was going on, and that killed what could've been a classic scene. It's too bad that QT has to constantly riff on other people's work. It gets distracting to hear songs that don't fit, actors and moments that he put in as tributes (Franco Nero in this) and I don't see why the critics keep lumping praise on him for it. All that said, the man can write dialogue like few others. It's brilliant when he has people like Waltz, Jackson, and DiCaprio that can make it sing.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 4:15 a.m. CST
I consider Django Unchained to be an answer to Blazing Saddles
by Bradly Durant
Blazing Saddles was a landmark innovative film masterpiece and it has stood for nearly forty years as the only truly great film about racism... a western hero fantasy film... a film that vilified an entire race who were actually innocent victims and lionized the most evil people in western civilization in the last 2 centuries other than the outright genocidal Nazis. It has stood as one of the greatest films that Mel Brooks has made. So there.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 4:27 a.m. CST
And simndermot how about a movie where the British come back and kill the descendants of the colonists that succeeded from England? That's sexy!
by Cedric Ford
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SPOILER... ...was James Remar, a Hill regular, doling out a slo-mo flying backwards shotgun death like he's received in 48 HRS.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 5:07 a.m. CST
- whose skin actually turns different colors depending on mood and weather-
by Windowlicker74
and you forgot to mention whites also have different hair colors (red blonde brown) and eyes (green, blue, brown)... whereas blacks have just, well you know, brown skin, brown eyes brown frizzy hair. So you're right: whites are actually much more colorful:) and should be called 'colored' from now on.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 5:35 a.m. CST
Widowlicker along with the cancer prone skin you forgot the small dicks.
by Cedric Ford
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Dec. 28, 2012, 5:38 a.m. CST
and the brains that built your precious car (along with pretty much everything else on the planet)
by Windowlicker74
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Dec. 28, 2012, 5:40 a.m. CST
Wow, Gerry Anderson must be getting a very long, appreciative obit written up, considering the time it's taking for it to appear here...
by Cervantes
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Dec. 28, 2012, 6 a.m. CST
No word on Gerry Anderson or talk on the Dr Who Christmas special....I guess you're saving those for next year
by cameron
Are you still on dial up at AICN? Coz you move slower than Harry's wheel chair when it comes to current news.
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a couple of points, a man wasn't pulled apart by 4 horses, a runaway slave was torn apart by dogs (there may have been 4, I don't remember) and Django doesn't help Schultz JUST to find his wife, Schultz offers to help him find her because her name in German and he thinks the fairy tale he tells is too intriguing not to help find her. But to say Django made it an ultimatum is inaccurate.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 6:07 a.m. CST
The inaccuracies in the reviews lately make me wonder if people are reviewing the trailers instead of the movies
by Cosmik
There are three Brittle brothers not a pair. Django does not agree to help track down the outlaws if Schultz, in turn, agrees to find Django's long-lost wife. Schultz offers that long after the Brittle brothers are killed and in exchange for working with him through the winter. And for crying out loud can you not tell that those "four horses" tearing the man apart were a couple of dogs?
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who gives a shit about the n-word and what qt is tryin to say and shit? this movie is FUN. the dialogue is fucking perfect, jackson and waltz are fucking perfect and if u didnt like this film ur not a man. and if u saw les mis before you saw django your not a real american
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Dec. 28, 2012, 6:18 a.m. CST
I love these talkbacks and how they sometimes evolve into racism and ignorance.
by Cedric Ford
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Dec. 28, 2012, 6:18 a.m. CST
It's that same inferior mental attitude which is why this world is still fucked up.
by Cedric Ford
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Dec. 28, 2012, 6:19 a.m. CST
I know it's scary that you know your race is going to be extinct in another millennium but that's what history books are for.
by Cedric Ford
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Dec. 28, 2012, 6:37 a.m. CST
Good name you picked cavejohnson cause any 8th grader could tell you a Chinese man invented the first automobile...Ha.
by Cedric Ford
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Dec. 28, 2012, 6:38 a.m. CST
So go ahead and figure out another thing to ease your inferiority complex.
by Cedric Ford
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Dec. 28, 2012, 6:40 a.m. CST
Cervantes... Space 1999, Thunderbirds, Captain Scarlett, UFA, Joe 90, Stingray... Gerry Anderson tribute has to be MASSIVE! Possibly the biggest AICN tribute ever.
by workshed
I'm sure Harry is working on something appropriate to the enormity of this legend's impact on us as kids, although he should let one of the UK contributors write it up [hint, hint]. The way Harry enthuses about Harryhausen, well, imo Anderson was just as visionary. I wonder if I can convince my mate to get his 'Thunderbird 2' (original and mint)' out of it's box later today. You know what was great about Anderson? He knew when an idea had run it's course and it was time to something new, something a certain Mr.Lucas could have learned from Gerry (and Sylvia).
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...maybe 2013 will be the year AICN goes 'Space-Age' and gets an 'EDIT' button..!
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Dec. 28, 2012, 6:45 a.m. CST
cedhollywood an 8th grader would tell you the car is a European invention. and YOU feel 'ultra superior' to whites (because you got a big dick or something) so don't start nagging
by Windowlicker74
BUT Asians invented tons of stuff, i'll give you that
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Dec. 28, 2012, 6:52 a.m. CST
LickingWindows did you forget your whites invented everything on the planet rant?
by Cedric Ford
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Dec. 28, 2012, 6:53 a.m. CST
but cedhollywood is right, whites will be extinct in the next millenium.
by Windowlicker74
The African continent, which is the poorest and most backward continent today (basically still living in the stone age, executing witches and gays and shit) still has the largest population growth. Since women don't have birth control (it's against their religion of course) and the men refuse to use condoms ( probably don't fit around their gigantic dicks) So were heading towards a bright future:)
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I thought the exact same thing about Waltz' character in Inglorious Basterds - a magnificent character doing something utterly out of character at the end of the movie ..."house in Nantucket" (groan). It killed the movie for me. However, in Django it didn't kill the movie, because I felt this movie generally had a lighter tone - although tonally it was really all over the place.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 6:57 a.m. CST
@workshed Nope, he was a Flemish Jesuit missionary in China who
by frank
built the first car. Not a Chinese. So not only you failed at your comeback, but you are historically ignorant. Now allow me to express my feelings towards your pathetic attempt at trolling: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BWA BWA BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Dec. 28, 2012, 6:58 a.m. CST
It's easy to invent a "car" when somebody of another race did all the hard work.
by Cedric Ford
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Dec. 28, 2012, 7 a.m. CST
oops sorry workshed, my post was for that idiot racist cedhollywood
by frank
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Dec. 28, 2012, 7:05 a.m. CST
Wow look who's been reading Wikipedia. Lol. Wiki is not the only credible source of information.
by Cedric Ford
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why don't you go in the corner, sit there quietly and lick your wounds like the good little puppy that you are? HAHA ;)
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just keep licking those wound. the pain will eventually pass.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 7:15 a.m. CST
lol sure ced, in your imagination the mercedes you're driving is the product of a tall black man with excellent skin and a foot and half dick:)
by Windowlicker74
whereas in reality it's made by some skinny German crackers with skin 'prone to cancer' and a three inch dick. that must suck:)
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Schultz sees MANY disturbing things throughout the film--and Candie does actually one-up him at the end, starting with taking $11,000 of Schultz's hard-earned money which, I would assume, he was hoping to retire on. His bad reaction at the end makes sense to me. But the movie isn't about Schultz anyhow. It's called Django, and it's about Django. Schultz gives us a good show, especially through the first half of the film, but I spent most of the movie waiting for that balance to shift, and for Django to come into his own. Sure, Schultz is a friend and plays a part in getting Django his freedom and a different idea of what he could do with his life. But that's all the more purpose the man really serves, because everything else is Django and Broomhilda's tale. **SPOILER**As much as I enjoyed his dialogue, I was glad to see him not make it to the end of the movie, because as much as Django owed to him, Schultz remained the last thing holding him back as a character. Everyone gives Schultz great credit for being intelligent and clever, but Django has his own brand of cunning that really gets unleashed in the finale.
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Like most of Terribletinos movies!
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DiCaprio's role in Djanjo Unchained was most impressive. He has that gleefully sinister look that makes me think of a younger Vincent Price. I would love to see him nail a remake of House of Wax, perhaps.
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besides, aren't you supposed to be on some white chick's bed right now? why the fuck are you still here, making fool of yourself?
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Dec. 28, 2012, 7:34 a.m. CST
You got called out Cavey boy from me and some colleague's to see how far you would go to prove your point. And to show we still have a long way to go with race relations.
by Cedric Ford
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When life gives you lemons, don’t make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad!
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Dec. 28, 2012, 7:42 a.m. CST
Ced no need to 'distort history' , Ever wondered why whites were able to colonize and enslave the black man in the first place? Because they had the technical prowess to do so. That is all. Its hard to defend yourself with just spears. BUT you do have gre
by Windowlicker74
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since you are, here some words of advice: When life gives you lemons, don’t make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad!
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Dec. 28, 2012, 7:48 a.m. CST
i never stated anywhere that you were black, but all of a sudden you felt the urge to reveal your race:)) haha game and match
by Windowlicker74
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Dec. 28, 2012, 7:51 a.m. CST
Anyway ced imust say you have great taste in women so go out there and fuck 'em hard
by Windowlicker74
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Dec. 28, 2012, 7:53 a.m. CST
Where are the Norman Schwarzkopf and Fontella Bass obituaries?
by gruntybear
I mean: isn't this Ain't It Cool Dead People Chat?
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"Western" may not be 100% geographically accurate, but the movies a goddamn western.
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People were on him about that in Pulp Fiction, but the fanboys were too busy kissing his ass to notice. QT is still an interesting director but I'm tired of people saying he's the best writer director around.
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Musta heard the word 'nigger' 10,000 times (mostly from Sam L Jackson). But, like Carlin once said, "we don't care when blacks (he actually referenced Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy) use the word 'nigger'. Why? Because they're niggers!" But let a bunch of white people say it in a QT film, then it's racist.
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...who feel hurt when white slavers get killed in movies? By definition, that makes you a racist. And an idiot. Now if you're offended by that statement, feel free to demand an explanation and I'll give you one.
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Essentially what you are claiming is Manifest Destiny. So be it but do know that MD doesn't align itself to a particular race or group of people so when it shifts to another group then be afraid, very afraid. Oh by the way it is shifting as we speak.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 8:21 a.m. CST
I am curious to see how many oscar nominations, this movie will get.
by frank
IB, which was a Jewish wet dream with Jews killing Hitler and Nazis, got 8 nomination and won one oscar. Let's see how a movie with blacks killing white slavers and racists, will fair with the Academy.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 8:30 a.m. CST
Wanna see the pwesents Harry begged for at BNAT and got go here http://zteecher.com/mythoughts/BNAT14WOLF.htm harry you have no fuckin shame disgusting pig
by ro foster
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Yes it is ok to state in the headline of your review the joy of offing a certain race...as long as that race is Anglo/white. Just as it's ok to bash America and get no flack for it. It's safe. It's almost P.C. at this point and it shows they're a follower/coward/play it safe pos who mindlessly rolls along with the herd.
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Blazing Saddles didn't use the N word a million times. It was a comedy that didn't require ad-nauseum vulgarity and gore to get its point across about the racial differences... It didn't need to show dick and balls In fact the only similarities between the two are 1: A free black man being gawked at 2: The KKK/lynch mob being played for comedic effect And to be honest, Blazing Saddles was 100 times funnier.
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MD, i had to look it up but i'm not in favour of imperialism/ colonialism in any way. All i said was that whites conquered large parts of the wolrd because they could, not because they are morally corrupt. Japan did the same thing, they were technically superior and conquered the surrounding nations ( a while ago) . I am of course not in favor of this. But i don't think one race is 'nobler' or less morally corrupt than another. If africans had the means to conquer the world back in the day, they would have done the same thing. But you are right i am afraid of the future.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 8:45 a.m. CST
And doc : there's a difference between killing white slavers or putting in your headline: the joy of killing whites.!!
by Windowlicker74
I don't think anyone is against the killing of white slavers
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Who brought the jerk?
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Hedley Lamarr: As per your instructions, I'd like you to meet the new sheriff of Rock Ridge. Governor William J. Le Petomane: I'd be delighted. [extends his hand, then yanks it away on seeing Bart] Governor William J. Le Petomane: Wow! [whistles, then drops his voice] Governor William J. Le Petomane: I gotta talk to you. Come here. [grabs Bart and pulls him aside] Governor William J. Le Petomane: Have you gone berserk? Can't you see that man is a ni... [turns and sees Bart] Governor William J. Le Petomane: Ha ha... wrong person. Forgive me. No offense intended. [walks Bart back, then pulls Hedley aside] Governor William J. Le Petomane: Have you gone berserk? Can't you see that man is a ni?
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/20/quentin-tarantino-django-unchained_n_2340987.html Summary: offering to pay would put Candie in a superior position, and Schulz would never give someone the upper hand.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 9:09 a.m. CST
It's a shame the real history of slavery will never be filmed...
by nephilim138
Africans selling other Africans to the Portuguese for sugar and various other items and willingly making deals with Europeans while handing them a few of their own. I guess it's just easier to blame whites for the ills of the world and make them the originators of racism and hope the average retard won't dig deeper into history.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 9:15 a.m. CST
It amazes me how people still don't understand the dynamic at work
by Thunderbolt Ross
that makes media treatment of one *race* different from another. Like they can't get through their heads what might account for different standards regarding african-americans and euro-americans in the US. Like they're scratching their heads still ... WHAT could it be? Why on earth aren't all things equal in terms of what is acceptable and from whom? WHY?????? hahaha ... Seriously you people are either incredibly stubborn or incredibly stupid. Since the answer is so blindingly obvious, I really don't think anyone is THAT stupid. At the same time I'm not really sure what the motivation would be. Maybe it is stupidity, or at least simple-mindedness.
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You're a ignoramus for that description. There's a joy to be had in that? Really? In 2012? This movie has as much to do with the us slave trade as inglorious basterds to do with ww2. This is black revenge porn. Idiotic. Just like your comment above. Saying some smart as comment to a white person before gunning them down just makes certain people feel good inside. When slavery existed in this country it was a part of life the world over. When the tides changed and people became more enlightened and more aware of fundamental human rights it ended almost everywhere and this country fought a war to end it which almost split the nation permanently in two. Slavery exists today in small pockets either by de juro or de facto. It was an evil viewed as such by better minds that evolved later. Anyway your comment about killing white people is idiotic and offensive.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 9:33 a.m. CST
Here's what Richard Pryor had to say about the "N" word....
by closeencounter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AltWj4iAmno
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Dec. 28, 2012, 9:39 a.m. CST
Thunderbolt ross, I honestly didn't understand a single word you were saying
by Windowlicker74
So please enlighten me with your 'blindingly obvious' answer.
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It looks like you missed the point to behind with.
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It's a good movie, don't get me wrong. It certainly makes plain the horror and severe injustice of slavery and if nothing else, that's a good civics lesson. But Quentin's best film? Not by a bit. It doesn't come close to his actual masterpiece, Pulp Fiction. It also doesn't lick the balls of Inglorious Basterds, and probably isn't as good as Jackie Brown either. It is, however, better than Kill Bill and, of course, Death Proof, or as I like to call it Annoying Babbling Bitches. Although Jamie Foxx is good at the dead-eyed glare, he's just so goddamned monotone throughout that the lines which should be very powerful, fall flat. For example "I know how he feels", when saying he understands the legend of the hero that wants to rescue his wife. It comes off with as much passion as "More flap jacks please". It also takes an juneeded turn late in the game with some Australians, including a bloated Tarantino that derails all the momentum. Good movie, heck, great movie, but not a boil on the ass of Pulp Fiction.
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And besides, someone already has portrayed that in a Hollywood movie: Spielberg with Amistad. Those weren't white folk that captured Djimon Honsou.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 10:04 a.m. CST
Me and my friends talk that way all the time. No shock value for me.
by kindofabigdeal
Tupac: Nigger was black guys with ropes around their necks hanging from trees. Niggas are black guys with gold chains around their necks hanging in clubs.
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As an American of Mexican ancestry I find Black Power synonymous with White Power.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 10:06 a.m. CST
Apparently nephilim misses the point that it was the WHITES who were buying the slaves and horrifically treating and killing them!
by Jaster Mareel
So yeah, whites get the blame. sorry, but THAT is the true history. Aren't you saying the the true history of gun violence is that gun manufacturers were making the weapons and the people using them to slaughter innocents were only tangentially involved? *heavy sigh* Fucking idiot.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 10:07 a.m. CST
That was a great Tarantino interview about Schuktz, Bah, thnx for posting it
by D.Vader
Too bad the comments section seems to be made up of idiots.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST
So as long as you are racist to whites and talk down religion (only if its christian)
by kinsahd
its cool. And people wonder why there is so much hate in the world...
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Dec. 28, 2012, 10:11 a.m. CST
The white liberal guilt on display in many of the reviews is hilarious
by mypalfish
Racism is bad...slavery was bad...
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I had fuck-all to do with it. That doesn't mean I can't empathise with those who endured it. Conservatards can't seem to grasp that gradeschool level concept.
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Jeremy renner said "inward" in a avengers interview in entertainment weekly and Samuel Jackson shit thinking he said "n word". Funny shit How is no one talking about making a bounty hunter Named "DR KING" ??? There's only one KING. Theres only one DR KING. THE MOVIE ISN'T ANTI WHITE. QT IS MAKING FUN OF BLACKS
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...And southern racists are the biggest, mouth-breathing herd of fucktards that every slithered across the earth. You people are seriously the dumbest sonsabitches I've ever met. Those aren't stereotypes, it's fucking fact! But aside from the blatant racism, I moved to AZ in the 6th grade....they were still doing ADDITION! no, fucking SERIOUSLY! It's no goddamned wonder all the top 10 schools are in The Enlighhtened North. I just wish all you southern pig-fuckers would keep your ignorance to yourselves. just sit back, watch Fox News and live in your own little delusional wonderland. Just let us run the fuckin' place while you tend to your mullets and collect guns for a war we could win against you with the push of a button.
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Haven't seen it yet, but does QT cross "the line" by making jokes about the size of black guys dicks? If he didn't, he's a chicken shit pussy. No point making a blaxploitation film in this era without making at least one "Alabama black snake" joke (see Full Metal Jacket).
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What is this, Badass Digest? That ain't cool news!!! Capone, are you a Devin Faraci wannabe? Who wrote that headline?!!!
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Dec. 28, 2012, 10:39 a.m. CST
Will one of you scumsuckers please explain this plot point (Spoilers)?
by Behemoth
Why the Mandingo charade? They'd made a ton of money. DiCaprio was willing to sell one of his best fighters for 12,000. I'm sure he would've happily sold Hilde for a couple grand at most. He didn't think twice about throwing her into the "pot" when King brought it up in conversation. She was an afterthought to DiCaprio. King and Django could've easily afforded the price - maybe Jamie Foxx ALONE could've afforded that on what he'd made. This pretty much ruined the movie for me, so I'm hoping I missed something there (besides the speech King gives Django earlier when they're hatching the plan).
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You do know there's this whole world outside of the US right?
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Interesting way you phrase that. "Saying some smart as comment to a white person before gunning them down just makes certain people feel good inside." Is it the slavers in the film you're referring to? Because if it is, why do choose to emphasize that they're white over the fact that they're slavers? And regarding so-called "black revenge porn" -- so what? I enjoy watching slavers get fucked up in movies as much as I enjoy watching nazis, commies, monsters, religious fanatics, serial killers and alien invaders get their asses kicked. What is your point, exactly?
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Dec. 28, 2012, 11:06 a.m. CST
Jonah Hill's period haircut was great, so was his performance.
by Quake II
WHY was he in the movie? Anyone could have said he 3 lines and maybe even LOOKED like they were in the 1800's and not 2012. That was the only distracting cameo. Tom Wopat aka Luke Duke looked like a deputy, Franco Nero was cool and Don Johnson rocked his part as well.
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It explains that for you. Also, Schultz explained it in the film. They don't WANT to spend $12,000 on Hildy (which is an OBSCENE amount back then). And if Candie knew how much they wanted Hildy, he certainly would have the upper hand and would have made them pay that much. And then they'd be forced to. But what they tried to do, was have the upper hand the entire time. Pretend they wanted to spend that much on a fighter, spend a little bit more on Hildy instead, feign they would come back in 5 days with a lawyer and physician, but in reality never show. Thus, they spend a little bit of money, trick Candie into giving up Hildy for cheap, and they live happily ever after. Say they offer $500 for Hildy, well now Candie will probably counter with $1000. Either way, it gives Candie the advantage, something Schultz was shown to be unwilling to do throughout the entire film (give someone else the upper hand). He's the one who has to be in control in all situations.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 11:16 a.m. CST
I don't understand how some of you honestly think you are ending racism by attacking whites
by Chopper
The goal isn't now it's time for whitey's turn to suffer. The goal should be no more attacks or generalizations on anyone's race period. You idiot leftists think you are being cute by attacking whites while you are white yourselves but congratulations, you do nothing but perpetuate racism. You are worse then those rednecks or KKK members you constantly attack.
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A hack who lives off the backs of Leone and Peckinpaugh while shitting all over the Western genre they way he crapped all over war/adventure films with his last piece of puke. If you don't know what Piss Christ is, look it the fuck up
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Dec. 28, 2012, 11:20 a.m. CST
Sorry but this movie is completely and utterly flawless. Any perceived warts can be chalked up to
by UltraTron
intended 60-70s quirky filmmaking.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 11:22 a.m. CST
I love how there's people who think that they are 1800s plantation owners being attacked.
by UltraTron
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...by Indiana Jones in a movie, it doesn't mean that I want to kill all German people. I just hate nazis. Okay so far? So then why do some of you automatically equate blacks cheering Django's wasting of slavers with the desire to see all white people killed? See how that works?
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Dec. 28, 2012, 11:27 a.m. CST
How did we get from killing 'white folks' to killing 'n******.'
by Baked
Oh, right. Because when you say 'black folks' in public, you're really thinking 'n******' and the only time you can admit it is anonymously. The talkbacks are full of some racist sumbitches, I tell you what.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 11:28 a.m. CST
Why does QT always get a pass for his one-dimensonal characters?
by Logan_1973
For as much as everyone talks in this film, we never get a clear picture of their motivations. Quit telling me Schultz is such a great character when we know absolutely nothing about him other than his profession and that he hates slavery. Sorry, but if I don't care about the characters I don't care about the set dressings. Quit giving QT a pass on this for fucks sake.
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Try "Zulu" or "Live and Let Die", both of which I enjoyed--because the white characters represented good, and the blacks were attacking, or criminal. Only someone who empathized with the slavers would think Django was about "killing white people" however many times that joke is thrown around. It is not. It is about killing criminals (bounty hunting) and slavers (most but not all of whom are black). There are PLENTY of white people who aren't attacked or harmed in any way, and if you didn't notice that...it says something about you, and your sympathies.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 11:29 a.m. CST
STFU igonorant fucks the Arabs controlled the Slave Trade in Africa.
by ganymede3010
I'm sorry, but uninformed motherfuckers like to keep perpetuating myths to allow themselves to sleep better at night. The fact of the matter is Arab Muslims were the ones who were selling Blacks to the Europeans. Go read an actual history book instead of right wing racists who like to romanticize and deflect the blame as if America's enslavement of Black people was routinely practiced by Blacks also.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 11:31 a.m. CST
Also, champs, Europeans gave up slavery 100 years before this movie takes place...
by Baked
'Way of life the world over' my ass. Americans were and, in some cases, still are really fucking backwards.
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As a resident of a very southern state, I realize that racism is unfortunately still prevalent. However some of the biggest racist idiots I know hail from this enlightened North you speak of. Just sayin'.
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...and I suspect Quentin did that with the title card for the same reason he put "Once Upon a Time in Nazi-Occupied France" in front of Basterds - in order to demonstrate that this story was occurring in an alternate world.
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That's why it needs to be taught more accurately so people understand what it was actually like.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 11:38 a.m. CST
I want to be black after seeing Django. He's my hero same as Lando and Dynamite. Unfortunately only my cock is of Mandingo origin.
by UltraTron
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I think that has a better ring to it.
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Learn something everyday.
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It was just shitty filmmaking.
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Arizona isn't the south..... wtf? As someone who was born in Alabama and raised in Mississippi I happen to know a little bit about the south. I also went to college in Chicago and spent some time in Baltimore as well, and both of the above exhibited far more racism than the south does.... well, a different kind of racism. In the south, blacks and whites get along,live side by side, help each other out ,eat each other's food work side by side ...etc However, you do hear some choice words every now and again in excluded company. (rarely do you hear nigger or any other word directly expressed) In the north, white people love to talk about their "black friends" think terribly of anyone who would dare utter the word nigger..etc but if a black man moved into their neighborhood, they are puttin up the FOR SALE signs. The north is the home of the klan these days (Illinois,Ohio,Indiana). The north is the home of "separate but equal" white suburbanites don't send their kids to schools that are 50% black! (unlike where I went to school in coastal mississippi) and when you keep children socially apart by race, they never learn how to get along with each other. Hence the northern racism by distance.
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Was that the people using it were the"good guys." It especially stuck out when Jesus hipster drug dealer used it and QT himself used it. Oh and as an aside, fuck QT can't act.
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When I said "here here" To Fett, I meant For his guilt over Django killing a slaver.
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both have one thing in common they both like seeing white people getting violently killed
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I now live in AZ... and while it's hardly the cultural center of the universe, it's not some backward, redneck haven either. Far from it. <p> I've lived in Detroit and Los Angeles and believe me, there is no more overt bigotry here than anywhere else. Don't project your narrow, blatantly political opinion as some kind of objective reality. You're a walking cliche straight out of central casting.
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It was never a slave state.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 12:56 p.m. CST
Most people I meet in AZ are from back east. It's the new Florida.
by DoctorWho?
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This TB is full of a bunch of overly sensitive white folks who are pissed they can't say the N-word.
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There were no "good guys." It was a total shadow-world of varying shades of bad, right down the line with the possible exception of a line of dialogue spoken by a waitress. As for Arizona...I would have serious doubts about the last state to ratify MLK day, and that has elected officials who have made Birther challenges. I have relatives and friends who live there and love it...but SOMEPLACE has to be the caboose on any train, and when it comes to Civil Rights and attitudes toward blacks, Arizona ain't in front.
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This film did not drag for a second. The only scene that seemed out of place was the argument about the hoods, but it was so funny that it's forgivable. Also, that was without a doubt the best Sam Jackson performance of all time.
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The point is that while it was briefly CSA territory it was never a slave state. That's all I meant. It was not part of the "deep south." As for Pulp Fiction, while the drug deler and Jimmy may not be good guys there is no criticism of their charscter's use of the n word.
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Because he was n extra in Birth .of A Nation. Seriously?
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Dec. 28, 2012, 1:30 p.m. CST
Too Many Ignorant A Frightened White BITCHES In Here For Me, But I Will Say This...
by Oprah_Duke
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I absolutely loved it. My personal rank of QT films now goes: Pulp Fiction, Resevoir Dogs, Django Unchained, Kill Bill Vo. 1 & 2, Inglorious Bastards, Jackie Brown, Grindhouse...I can't say anything about true romance because I haven't seen it. Django was the perfect blend of spaghetti western and dark humor with an intriguing and engaging narrative. Not to mention some great 70's style ultra violence. Just absolutely loved it. Jamie Fox, Christoph Waltz, and Samuel Jackson turned in great performances. The only meh point for me was the acting of Kerry Washington I found her quite dull. Otherwise it was just a fantastic film.
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Comparing Arab slavery to the Middle passage and white-run chattel slavery and comparing the Arab slave routes and numbers taken over 12 centuries to the numbers European slavers took over 4 centuries is sobering to say the least. The idea of Arab slavery being the worst aspect of the African slave trade is a joke. Keep passing the buck, though. While Arab's slaves were negotiating contracts and weren't forced to make money for their masters, white's slaves were thrown to sharks and bred like livestock.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 1:33 p.m. CST
I Served In Bosnia And I Killed White Folks. It Was A Joy!! HOOAH!!
by Oprah_Duke
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Dec. 28, 2012, 1:35 p.m. CST
Was A Army Vetern Cencored On Here? I served In Bosnia And I Killed White Folks. It Was A Joy!! How Many Of You Fellow Americans Have Served?
by Oprah_Duke
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Dec. 28, 2012, 1:37 p.m. CST
Ok, Cool. I guess aintitcool is acting loopy. and it's Veteran. Got Pissed And Typed Fast.
by Oprah_Duke
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You are right about Arizona. There was no criticism WITHIN Pulp Fiction for his use of the 'n' word, but tons of it from outside. Why exactly he can get away with it...I'm not sure. But he can. When he had Marcellus Wallace get fucked in the ass by a hillbilly, and I laughed...I knew this guy has something strange, and special. Here's my guess: he grew up around black people, and considers them totally equal in humanity. Therefore, although he uses such language, his films also have a higher percentage of powerful, intelligent black men than those of any other white director I know of. Pulp Fiction was really Jules' story of redemption, as opposed to what I would have expected: the BLACK guy getting shot on the toilet, and the WHITE guy having his epiphany and growing. The way he actually TREATS his characters is hella more important than what is said. In other words, there is little suspicion that when he says "nigger" he's thinking "you are less than a white man." And it is PRECISELY the concern that that is what is being meant that makes blacks angry when most white people say it. It is the difference between "in-group" and "out-group" speech patterns (for instance, you can pat your wife's ass, but I cannot. Why? Consent. That's all, really). It is a really fascinating phenomenon, and I'm not sure how QT pulled it off.
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Humans did. Did you know Arabs invented algebra? No they didn't. Humans did (well, to me humans discovered it more than invented it but i digress). true - there's cultural and racial identity aspects that are not unimportant, not uncritical, historically speaking. but this is usually due to previous subjugation and ignorance by the majority or those rare minorities with greater power/money over a majority. last time i checked, all humanity evolved out of the continent of africa - we are not singular avenues of evolution from distinct ancestor species. there is not more than one human race on this planet. we are all evolutionary brothers and sisters scientifically speaking. this skin color stuff is only pertinent insofar as our culture is relevant to the conversation at hand. saying 'white people invented cars' is really a silly way of trying to separate people who are identical in most everything outside of said culture. and culture is influenced by many things both good and bad and yet we insist that culture is somehow related to biology and for differentiating the varying species of humans on planet earth from one another and that a certain people are capable of something another people are not and that's due to biology and not culture. that's clearly bullshit.
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About former black slave killing white people... why is it such a problem...
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If more you knew about the origin of the word "Motherfucker" they might be just as bothered by that than "nigger". There are stories that slave owners would often threaten to cut off the genitals of a male slave if he didn't fuck his mother. This was common practice amongst some plantation owners and their misfits. Hence the term "Motherfucker". So every time Sam Jackson utters that word, you know where it's coming from. I know he's known for using that word quite a bit with other characters, but here it had a certain bite if you know the background of the word. Great movie though. Probably my favorite QT movie outside of Pulp Fiction.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 2:03 p.m. CST
I think people are less concerned about a black man killing a lot of white people - they are concerned that people like Jamie Foxx thinks it is awesome, and glorifies it in his public comments. It's the hypocrisy that pisses me off. That being said, I'll
by Mephisto the Great
Getting to kill a lot of of white people. I'm black like that.
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I assume that comment was satire because Arizona isn't the South East. If you're judging the Deep South based on Arizona (the South West's version of Florida) you're clueless.
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and then the rest of the introductory paragraph is such a discussion.
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This movie was decently fun, but Basterds was a more resonant historical-revenge flick. This film was a sloppy, self-absorbed mess right from the very first shot. (1858 is three years before the Civil War, not two - which is just a ridiculous mistake to make.) That interview with Huffpo is interesting, because I had exactly the same problem with the movie -- Schultz and Django's plan makes no sense. Just be a german guy looking for a german-speaking slave and game over. QT's explanation/excuse didnt' really resonate with me, and the fact he had to explains suggests the weakness of that whole section. Also, the whole "mandingo-fighting" bit --while a nod to 70's blaxspoitation films,I guess -- has no connection at all to history. Occasionally, a slaveholder would have a slave box, via boxing rules -- but none of this to-the-death ridiculousness. Kind of a dumb way to treat your investment. Not defending antebellum practices, mind you. American slavery is abhorrent enough, in all the ways Django captures well -- second middle passage, gelding, slave bazaars -- that it didn't need the fake mandingo subplot, especially when it was such an extraneous part of Django and Schultz's plan. TLDR: I liked Django ok as a weaker version of revenge-escapism than Basterds, and movies that rub our collective US face in the purposefully forgotten horrors of slavery are a net positive. But it really feels Tarantino is disappearing up his own ass sometimes.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 2:20 p.m. CST
Saying To My Face What You Would Only Do Online* For That BITCH Superman76
by Oprah_Duke
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Dec. 28, 2012, 2:23 p.m. CST
ROFL at the retarded fanboys who keep placing JB as their least favorite QT movie.
by frank
you are completely clueless about what makes great cinema, are you? i pity you. I also find it hilarious that you keep declaring every new movie from QT, as his best ever movie in his filmography. JB and GH are excluded ofc. I am sure his next movie, which will probably be KB2, will be once more praised as his new magnum opus of his career. how pathetic are you. It is also very sad that QT finds himself obliged to cater forever to his brainless fanboys in order to maintain his career. As a result, he keeps spawning entertaining flicks with his personal style in order to keep his fans happy, but although these movies are well-made, they will never manage to reach the cinematic importance of films like The Wild Bunch or Platoon. It is not a coincidence that his IB of the 8 nominations, was the big loser in the oscar awards... and that's a big waste of his immeasurable talent. such a pity.
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It's the human species. There are different races in one species, just like animals. The human race only exists in pc hollywood. We originated from africa but that was ten thousands years ago. You can say we originated from fishes as well. Most important inventions and discoveries were made in the last 3000 years and are race related.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 2:30 p.m. CST
Jackie Brown is his best movie. Not his most visceral and that's what QT "Fans" want.
by Oprah_Duke
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Dec. 28, 2012, 2:30 p.m. CST
Jackie Brown is his best movie. Not his most visceral and that's what QT "Fans" want.
by Oprah_Duke
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Dec. 28, 2012, 2:31 p.m. CST
Double posts. Like The Double Jawbone Fractures That BITCH superman76 can expect.
by Oprah_Duke
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Dec. 28, 2012, 2:35 p.m. CST
Windowlicker74 is a BITCH!! Animals don't have "races". Fuck is wrong with you idiots. The Human Race Is ONE!!
by Oprah_Duke
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All of you, really. Tarantino is a moron as well. I have no use for him, so I will not be seeing this movie.
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We re all one happy family
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Dec. 28, 2012, 2:48 p.m. CST
So is Django a western. I am asking because Kurt Russell left during
by frank
the filming on the grounds that it was not a western that they were making. so was he right?
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Snore.....
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AZ in the south? You don't need to say anything else. And you have the nerve to call yourself enlightened? That is a fucking joke, LOL!!!
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Even allowing that my writing was a little less than coherent, you seem to have grokked the basic idea .... But I didn't SUPPLY the answer. I just referred to it. Because yes, it is that obvious.
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but here's the thing...if you choose not to acknowledge the science on this, that's fine. no one's twisting your arm. after all, you could just be trolling all of us.
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Is it a pre-req to be a self-hating white guy to be a film reviewer for this site?
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Dec. 28, 2012, 4:25 p.m. CST
Holy SHIT this is probably the clumsiest but yet most substantial debate on race i've seen in a LONG time and it's happening right here on AICN!
by AntonStark
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Dec. 28, 2012, 4:57 p.m. CST
Well i guess the fact that black people are better at sports is not race related:)
by Windowlicker74
It's just a coincidence
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Dec. 28, 2012, 5:07 p.m. CST
Windowlicker74. what are you basing that claim on? American Football & Basketball? Boxing? Come'on man, hop of the computer and hit some library books!!
by Oprah_Duke
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Dec. 28, 2012, 6:11 p.m. CST
Lyndon B. Johnson--(D-texas)-- openly used racial epithets like “nigger” and “boy.” He liked to play a practical “joke” on Black gas-station attendants by putting a RATTLESNAKE in his car’s trunk and then asking his Black victims to check the back.
by duke of url
LMFAO!!! AMERICA....FUCK YA!!!
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that's one of the funniest things i've heard of in a long time! LMFAO is right!
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Dec. 28, 2012, 7:52 p.m. CST
superman76 you BITCH!! I thought you was a Marine? Why you aint hit me up on email and get into some shit we can throw up on youtube? oh yeah, you're a BITCH!!
by Oprah_Duke
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you do realize that threatening someone with violence because they said something you don't like is pretty much just perpetuating the stereotype that black males have a problem with anger and violence right? I mean, it's so ironic it would crack me up, if it wasn't so damn pathetic. It's the internet, lighten up ,Francis
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Dec. 28, 2012, 9:11 p.m. CST
This talk back should be archived. It is proof that the left is far more racist then the right.
by Chopper
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extra "N" word for those who wait. I thought the film was great. Didn't seem long at all and I went to a 10:10pm showing - a sold out crowd clapped at the end. Every guy looked at their girlfriends when Djangos dick was hanging down. LOL I was in the back and could see all their heads turn at the same time. "don't look!" but the girlfriends looked because of the audible reaction they made. Funny shit. I think you get to see anothers guys dick get blown off for a frame or two-shotgun blown not mouth you perverts. After the movie credits started about 99% of the people left and missed a short extra scene. In the end this is a great date movie as it has a solid love story wrapped in filth. The women were clapping at the end and this is a movie were dogs eat a man to death and other crazy shit.
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Dec. 28, 2012, 9:36 p.m. CST
macheemo is racist!! And Oprah Duke is BACK!! Yes, They blacklisted me and they may do this one too.
by sanford and gun
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Dec. 28, 2012, 9:39 p.m. CST
macheesmo3 thinks offering a duel is a black stereotype? I'm sure inviting someone to a fist fight is a European custom.
by sanford and gun
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So, throw the "n-word" around as much as you want, talk about how awesome it is to kill white people, but use a word that's pejorative towards homosexuals and you get fucking banned? This site is so fucking retarded. Fuck you and your high horses, you're all a bunch of shitpiles anyways. Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you.
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a fucking joke, as are most of these posts. Jesus christ. Swallow a load of AIDs-infested cum and then die.
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Why not try using that energy to become fucking relevant again? Hmmm? No? Thought not. Choke on Django's dangler, fuckwads.
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all of the "cedhollywood" "cavejohnson" "oprah_duke" "windowlicker" BULLSHIT is still available for all to poop on, but a single joke-post by little ol' me warrants blacklisting. God, you guys have pissed me off. What the fuck are the rules here?
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...knew who Franco Nero was...so the whole point of that moment at the bar was completely lost on them. Don't know why tHat bugged the FucK out of me, but it did.
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loved it, but totally didnt notice django's wang...musta missed it
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Dec. 29, 2012, 12:42 a.m. CST
back_to_the_chopper GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE YOU PIECE oF SHIT!
by uberfreak
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killing trolls like Windowlicker74 is perfectly alright. What an assclown.
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an assclown who's been in Africa one too many times i guess.. mayby one of you should 'hop off the computer' and go there
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Dec. 29, 2012, 8:59 a.m. CST
cotton_mcknight: wait come back! Don't leave! You have to hear this..
by UltraTron
Suck another wet greasy feltch of shitquot out of your gay lover's asshole and slurp it down like an oyster you silly twot. Now man up and go see this movie.
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I am very dissapointed in all of you. Any black people I was with or overheard in the audience spoke far more eloquently and reasonable than any of you sound. There is a competition in some of you that is born of your own inadequacies and projected at any and all comers. Yes I'm grouping all of you together with the bad apples because the chastisement I'm about to lay down must ripple and be felt throughout all nerd-dom.. Oh shit I got some shit I gotta deal with I'll be back. Don't think I'm letting you off. Come back here later for your down-dressing.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 9:44 a.m. CST
I think saying Django trivializes slavery makes as much sense as saying Raiders of the Lost Ark trivialized the Holocaust.
by blackmantis
They are both comic book cartoons set in a historical period and I don't think anyone goes to them expecting a history lesson...I thought the film was mostly great, but that the orgy of blood at the end went on too long and became silly. It wasn't cathartic, just gore for gore's sake.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-20845407
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Dec. 29, 2012, 11:22 a.m. CST
I understand black folks cheering. I cheered when Travis Bickle shot the black robber in Taxi Driver
by Marc Cerasini
And I cheered again when the store owner beat the dying thug with a crowbar--good fun. Then there was the day some asshole tried to mug me when I was carrying an antique bayonet. Bad day for Afrikka.
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My apologies if this has been brought up already...but why are there TWO Roscoe's (both played by James Remar)? One is part of the pair Dr. Shultz "buys" Django from and the other is Candie's protector at CandiLand. I'm missing the symbolism/purpose here. Both characters were referred to as Roscoe but James Remar is credited as playing Butch Pooch and Ace Speck. Anyone else notice this and/or can clear this up?
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Dec. 29, 2012, 2:21 p.m. CST
Capone I'm curious as to what shocks you about hearing a dirty word. Is it perhaps a malfunctioning butter-fly vibrating clit attachment?
by UltraTron
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Dec. 29, 2012, 3:27 p.m. CST
Hey, Capone, let's hope a couple of black bucks masterfully combine jacking your car with blasting you ass with a Glock
by Marc Cerasini
Just sayin'
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Dec. 29, 2012, 3:30 p.m. CST
And in a cesspool like Chicago, it might just happen...
by Marc Cerasini
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is by definition a piece of shit and if it glorified killing any other race it would be the lead story on any of the liberal media sites. Trash is trash.
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I really enjoyed this movie up until Waltz's character uncharacteristically shoots Candie. That pretty much eliminated two of the better and more interesting characters in the movie, and then the movie just draggggggggggggs to the end. Overall was great up until that point.
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Slavers weren't stereotypical evil people. Slavery was an accepted part of our culture doe hundreds of years and worldwide. Seeing them portrayed as evils just wrong even. And no I'm not a southerner and I'm a liberal democrat. What's next? Indians slaughtering whites for 2 hours ?
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Seeing it this week on the big screen as intended! Hell yeah I've been playing Red Dead Redemption (yeah just now playing it, just got a console) and I'm so ready for this movie now!
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Last "men" movie he did was Pulp Fiction where you had Bruce Willis cutting into bad guys with a sword. Ever since then his heroes have been women and black and jews, basically. He used a badass like Kurt Russell and turned him into a pussy in Death Proof. Fuck this guy. The people that pay his salary and go watch his movies are white men yet he slap them in the face on a regular basis.
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seriously, the universe wants a QT Barbarella type film. The WW2 film sounds good, but he needs to destroy stupid star warts and space trek first.
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it saddens me that you come to post on this site and do not understand exploitation films.
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I've only watched it once so maybe I didn't see what makes it such "great cinema" the first go round so I'll give it another look.
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All over africaand middle east. Lest we forget blacks sold fellow blacks int slavery for ages before the Europeans got involved. So did the Arabs. Fact. Point all fingers everywhere then.
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Dec. 29, 2012, 11:34 p.m. CST
I could never understand racists cuz to me they all seem like the type of people who could watch a film like Remember the Titans and cheer for the Titans to lose.
by The_All_Dead
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That's a good point. I grew up and live in North Carolina, and here in Charlotte, the population is just about even between black and white people, most of my schooling was in predominantly black schools (and a couple years I was the only white kid in the entire school), and when people need help, it doesn't seem to matter what color they are, just that you can help them out. Yes, when I'm around just white people (which is pretty much just family gatherings), people think they can say some stupid, ignorant shit, but at the same time, I don't feel like it runs their lives. Where I work, however, I get calls from all over the country, and some of the most aggressively racist things I have ever heard are from people living up north and on the west coast when they think they're essentially alone talking to someone they feel agrees with them on a deeper level. I think personalized, one-on-one racism may be more prevalent here in the south, but I think societal racism is bigger up north. <p> <p><p><p> Also, Arizona wasn't part of the CSA, nor did they have slavery, but if you look at the legislation of the state in the past couple years, it's pretty obvious that they're trying to beat out Mississippi for being the most ignorant, backwards state. Literally passed a bill that would classify a woman as being pregnant 2 weeks before conception. Any state that's that backwards has a pretty solid base for a good bit of ignorance.
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......that windowlicker has a very very very small dick. Micronized. How else to explain his virulent race-based massive inferiority complex?
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Dec. 30, 2012, 3:59 a.m. CST
antimaster - but that describes 99.9% of any movies where evil villains are killed...
by Bricklyne
...which would be 99.9% of all movies.... ...and probably because 99.9% of all villains portrayed in all movies tend to be, you know, white. This is what happens when you refuse to diversify your movies.
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Dec. 30, 2012, 4:08 a.m. CST
It's hilarious seeing all the micro-dicked racists whine about how unfair Capone's headline is or the notion of whites getting killed...
by Bricklyne
....and by micro-dick racists I mean,.... chien_sale antimaster hansvonhammer cavejohnson back_to_the_chopper superman76 darthcroat .... and thebigest one of all, (with ironically the smallest dick of all)... windowlicker74
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Dec. 30, 2012, 5:06 a.m. CST
very insightfull dick info mahgra_kea..and very funny how everybody gets all riled up when all i said was that the car is a white invention. is that so hard to stomach?
by Windowlicker74
Our (european)company installs master refrigerators and cooling cells mostly in the Middle East and Africa. You see EVERYTHING (cars,trains, planes, washing machines, hosptals,etc etc etc needs to be imported from the west/east. Since Africa isn't capable of designing/building any technology themselves (and haven't for thousands of years. So we install these super-refrigirators in the palaces of the super-rich elite while the population is starving. They live some sort of ridiculous gangstarap blingbling lifestyle that they copy from american music videos (you should really see it with your own eyes, pretty funny. So they should be running the country, they they are not capable of doing so. Most African leaders are totally incapable of running a country. They don't have any technology to export, but they do have lots of natural recourses (gold, diamonds, etc), but guess what? they can't get it out of the ground themselves, so they need western and eastern companies to do it for them. China is even building their freeways! And let's not get started on the billions of 'development' aid that is never seen or heard of again each year. Just got back from Angola and it's really hallucinating how a country is still living in the middle ages,degrading and raping women, honestly believing in ghosts, voodoo, whitches and the likes. Really come to Africa Mahgra_kae so you can compare dicks:)
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Dec. 30, 2012, 5:12 a.m. CST
oh mahgra, you forgot to put cedhollywood on your racist list
by Windowlicker74
just sayin'
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Dec. 30, 2012, 7:33 a.m. CST
The film isn't about killing white people because Walz is white.
by FluffyUnbound
When a white guy and a black guy team up to kill people who own slaves, that is not a film about killling white people. That is a movie about killing people who own slaves. And I feel the need to point out that killing people who own slaves is (drumroll) unequivocably a good thing. If somebody made an alternate history movie where there was a slave rebellion and every last slaveowner in the US got slaughtered in an orgy of blood and fire, that would be a feel-good movie of the first order. If they made the movie weeks long so they could show you each slaveowner individually take a knife to the face and then get burned alive, every last one of those shots would be like Luke blowing up the fucking Death Star. And no matter how many consecutive white faces getting killed that added up to, it would never become racist. Because slavery in the US was almost entirely a white institution after the Cherokee got wiped out...but abolition was a white institution, too. And if you identify more with Leonardo DiCaprio's character in this movie than you identify with William Lloyd Garrison, that's your own fucking problem and you deserve to get your face rubbed in this shit over and over.
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Dec. 30, 2012, 8:30 a.m. CST
None of you said anything when James earl jones cut off conan's mom's head and fed his dad to the dogs because you are all racist against Nordic folks
by UltraTron
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Dec. 30, 2012, 8:33 a.m. CST
That movie was GREAT!!! And it had me invoke all emotions. The night raid had my stomach hurting. Overall an AWESOME FILM.
by Wcwlkr
I mean the scene with Big Daddy and the night raid had to be the most hilarious thing I seen in the movie all year. And that was in the same movie that also had the most gut wrenching scene with a man torn apart by dogs. The interaction between Dicaprio & Waltz comical and TENSE. I freaking LOVED THIS MOVIE. And yes I'm black but it didn't offend me. If you just root for good to triumph over evil you'd root for this movie, and Sam Jackson's Stephen was one evil son of a bitch! I was exhilarated by the end.
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Is simply empathizing with the white folks Django killed. The film is about killing murderous, raping, torturing scum. Most of whom happened to be white. This is why we see so many TB'ers crawling out from under their rocks and defending slavery. PLEASE--remember that they are probably roughly representative of their proportion in the population in general. They vote, sit on juries, promote Birther myths, arrest, hire, approve loans, and more. And if you don't think their smiling venom has not influenced the history of our country, you haven't been paying attention. Frankly, I am grateful for these TBs--it allows decent Americans to see the reptiles hiding in their midst.
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If you believe slavery was utterly dehumanizing, and left its brutal stamp on a race of people that persists to this day...you're on one side of the line. If you think it was "kind of like immigration" and "bad, but no worse than X or Y or Z" and that white people would have "gotten over it" sooner, you're on the other side of the line. And it's fascinating to watch the sides choose themselves up. "white guilt" is not asked for. Simple extension of your own humanity is, however, required for membership to my side of the line.
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Dec. 30, 2012, 10:22 a.m. CST
Aaaaw..... what's wrong windowlicker74? Did that mean bad man Mahgra_kae hurt your widdle feewings by pointing out how tiny your little wee-wee is?
by Bricklyne
And can I just say, I absolutely love how on the one hand you try to defend yourself against an accusation of being a racist (which you are) by claiming you were only reminding people that white people invented cars (they also invented gas chambers, so what?), but on the other hand you decide to throw out all these facts and information meant to portray how inept Africa is and how Africans are inept in general, and still somehow think no one is going to come to the same conclusion that you're an incredibly insecure racist dick who has a small dick himself and so has to compensate by reminding everyone how great his white ass is.
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Hollywood hypocrites never cease to amaze me. And these people think they are the enlightened ones? Hollywood is one of the most intolerant groups existing today. That said, most of the review was pretty decent. I still wont go see it though.
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Having worked in the industry for almost thirty years, I'd say folks in Hollywood are a little less racist than Americans in general. Not a lot, though. They have more black friends, neighbors, lovers, employers and employees than the average white American, plus of course artistic sorts tend to be a bit more "liberal." But they are definitely driven by market realities, and know full well that they will get nasty mail from folks in strongly Conservative states if they are too "progressive" on issues like race and sexual orientation...which is why even though there are more gays in Hollywood than the general population, they don't do gay love stories often. Just financial reality. But I love when Conservatives imply Liberals are more racist. How they can say that, without believing blacks (who tilt Liberal) are too stupid to know which side their butter is on, is beyond me. In essence, Conservatives who believe Liberals are more racist are in the odd position of saying "blacks are too stupid to know we're the ones who respect them." It cracks me up!
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Dec. 30, 2012, 11:54 a.m. CST
People are really getting all riled up over the title of this article?
by MooseMalloy
Just don't go on a shooting spree killing strangers please mister angry white guy.
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without at least acknowledging how the continent has been exploited by Europeans - usually to its great detriment - really has nothing to say of any merit. If you're going to just blame Africans for their alleged lack of recent production, you may as well blame Native Americans for just up and disappearing into thin air. Not to mention a land mass with a billion or so people of varying geographic affinities should PROBABLY not be referred to monolithically ...
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My personal line is similar to Spike's, although I'm a stereotypical white liberal: that some things are too important to be done as an exploitation flick. I don't particularly give a rats ass about the slavers getting killed; what I find troubling is QT's attitude that stuff like rule of law is for pussies and that complex sociopolitical issues can be resolved by just killing the "bad" people. That's kind of like the NRA bullshit. I know, it's just a movie. But when QT said Basterds was how WWIi "would have ended if these guys were around," I thought do we really want to go down that route? Because if no one gave a shit about the rule of law the soviets, fir exmple, could have reduced half the US to smoking rubble. Anyway, Limcoln (the movie ) was awesome. Rant done.
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Or having actually been there, and met the people. Folks in Tanzania were just folks, like the Europeans I met in England or Germany. I did meet some people who lived out in the bush...and that was a little scary, meeting stone-agers. But seeing Masaai warriors herding cattle, standing one-legged while talking on cell phones was a fucking TRIP!
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To be fair Malcolm X said he preferred the southern overt racism to northern covert racism.
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Which is why there's affirmative action...
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Malcom was welcome to his opinion, but that's all it was--one man's opinion. The migration pressure north and west suggests most blacks disagreed. My mother was from Georgia, my father from Kansas. Both ended up in California, and racism was part of that pressure.
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Dec. 30, 2012, 2:38 p.m. CST
Mahgra's answer is totally incomprensible except that he's obsessed with big dicks, so fuck that. Thunderbolt , i agree that europeans exploited africa
by Windowlicker74
That was morally corrupt, but they did it because they had the technology to do so( they invented it) It was very easy to overthrow africa since they were still living in the stone age. Thats actually my point: im not morally judging anyone, but some were technologically superior ( and still am) and did their advantage( if thats proper english)
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Dec. 30, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST
So why was africa still living in the stone age by the time they were colonized by europeans? Thats an i
by Windowlicker74
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Dec. 30, 2012, 2:56 p.m. CST
Is interesting only if you're trying to find a race-based solution
by D.Vader
Which is of course what it sounds like you're doing, windowlicker.
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Dec. 30, 2012, 2:57 p.m. CST
And for the record, africans( havent seen the whole continent but some countries) are generally cool and hospitable people
by Windowlicker74
Just stay away from the morons that 'rule' the country
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