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Harrison Ford looks like he's 3 seconds from unleashing the dreaded Finger Of Doom in ENDER'S GAME!

Hey folks, Harry here...   Orson Scott Card's ENDER'S GAME has had a long and storied journey to the silver screen.   In fact, we've been talking about it here on AICN... for pretty much the entire history of AICN.    I was most excited about this project when it was in Wolfgang Petersen's quill...  The project never came to be though.   The Orci & Kurtzman saddled up - and Gavin Hood, who was once a director of great esteem with TSOTSI...  before the dark days of WOLVERINE.  The wanton blandness of that dreck has filled me with "freshly kicked syndrome" which makes me nervous about this.

Today, Summit released their first still, which features Harrison Ford as Col Hyrum Graff and I believe that's Asa Butterfield as Ender!  That's right Hugo Cabret himself!  I think this shot looks pretty bland..  especially to be the FIRST SHOT of the film shown.   The story has immense potential...  I just hope Gavin can capture it and has the support needed to knock this one out of the park.   Like a great ENDER'S GAME should.   Here's Ford just itching to whip out the FINGER OF DOOM, but for now it seems safely holstered.  Just remember, he has a habit of firing first.

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  • Dec. 5, 2012, 7:50 p.m. CST

    Orson Scott Card hates gay people.

    by Fievel

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 7:51 p.m. CST


    by Hyphin

    I don't feel this image is 'bland'. It doesn't tell much about the story for most people, but it does introduce Ford as being in the picture, which I am sure most of the internet-going public who happen upon this pic won't have known before. Also, the colours are pretty intense. Bland it isn't.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 7:54 p.m. CST

    But what will the Formics look like?

    by obijuanmartinez

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 7:55 p.m. CST

    And i was really, there's no surprise.

    by allyousay

    Oh, since you extended this...Han shot first.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 7:55 p.m. CST

    Bonzo Madrid or GTFO...

    by obijuanmartinez

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 7:55 p.m. CST

    Ranking the Mormons

    by nora inu

    1. Brandon Flowers 2. Orson Scott Card 3. Everyone else except.. 4. Stephanie Meyer 5. Mitt Romney

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Jamie Foxx is still Electro : (

    by gruemanlives

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8 p.m. CST

    please be good

    by kingoflight

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:03 p.m. CST

    How dare YOU, sir.

    by la_sith

    I'm the President of the United States! How dare you come in here and bark at me like some junkyard dog?!

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:04 p.m. CST

    How are they going to handle the ending (last chapter)?

    by NoQuarter

    Seeing as how it's a radical departure in tone from the rest of the book. Do they have the balls to put that onscreen? Also, this movie needs to be an R. The book is absolutely brutal at times, and the movie should reflect that - PG13 just ain't gonna cut it. I'm sure we'll get some dumbed-down, boring antiseptic, unrisky garbage, though. Call me cynical.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:10 p.m. CST

    is it just me who instantly thought of full metal jacket

    by Jack Desmondi

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:15 p.m. CST

    nora inu, I'm a Mormon and...

    by bauerpowerhour

    ...I totally agree. That was brilliant.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:17 p.m. CST

    polaxt, you and I and Orson Scott Card have excellent taste...

    by bauerpowerhour

    SERENITY is one of my favorite films. Best sci-fi ever? Debatable. EMPIRE gives it a run for it's money as escapist entertainment, and for "thoughtful" sci-fi, so does GATTACA. But it's right up there :)

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:19 p.m. CST

    Ender's Game is brilliant

    by eveelcapitalist

    An engaging and mesmerizing tale. Gavin Hood will ruin it utterly.

  • Whedon is a fucking hack.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:20 p.m. CST

    They gonna have all that naked boys floating in zero G crap?

    by hellsheartstab

    The MPAA would love that, followed by a few guys in paneled vans as well....

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:20 p.m. CST

    noquarter, the ending will be unchanged

    by bauerpowerhour

    Hood told Entertainment Weekly that he's a huge fan of the book and the ending is intact:

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Bright colours = 3D?

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:21 p.m. CST

    How is hating homosexuality bad?

    by acroyear

    Fievel, you like it in the ass?

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:22 p.m. CST

    re: PG-13. That still means violence is in, just no swearing/nudity.

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    I daresay it will be toned down though for younger audience. Which is a shame, Ender's Game was one of the first books I read that had kids in it but they were in an adult world, playing by adult rules.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:22 p.m. CST

    I love you.


  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:23 p.m. CST

    I know.


    nailed it.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:23 p.m. CST


    by ImMorganFreeman

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:25 p.m. CST

    I read the book last summer, pictured Col. Tigh as Graff


    complete with eye patch. a boy can dream...

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:26 p.m. CST


    by DocOpticus

    I worry about that every time remember this film is being made. That being said, I'll be there for said ending.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Looks bland = no goodies/set visits


    Maybe by the time the DVD hits AICN will be telling us it's the greatest sci-fi flick of all time!

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Guarantee this will be PG, MAYBE PG-13

    by bass

    Youth dollars.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:31 p.m. CST

    The dreaded Finger of Doom. Altar boys be warned.

    by Christian Sylvain

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:32 p.m. CST

    Uhhh .... what's the Finger of Doom ... ?

    by Tjarren

    Another aicn in joke that I'm missing?

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:34 p.m. CST


    by DocOpticus

    I hope they spent every penny they made on the steaming corn turds they've put out on the production of this. They aren't in front of a green screen so I remain hopeful.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:35 p.m. CST

    "Ender's Game" is a Brilliant Book

    by Evil Chicken

    I hope it translates into a brilliant film.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Harrison Ford doesn't look bored, tired or stoned.

    by Michael Thompson

    That's promising.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:42 p.m. CST

    He's almost as tall as Harrison Ford

    by darth_hideous


  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Fords shoes look a little orthopedic...

    by DocOpticus

    the zero g/bundling scene in Inception reminded me of the simulation training.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:52 p.m. CST


    by NoQuarter

    Good to know. I guess I'm still just a bit skeptical that the movie will turn out to be anything but an insulting travesty to the book, but I'll keep my fingers crossed.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Is that Bean?

    by DocOpticus

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 8:56 p.m. CST

    So Ender now is the biggest kid?

    by georgecauldron

    Funny, in the book he was the smallest and this was a big part of the story. But I wouldn't expect Hollywood fucks to get this right.

  • And ever since I first read it at age thirteen, I have been dreading a movie version.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 9:02 p.m. CST

    Fuck Orson Scott Card & fuck this movie

    by gruntybear

    I hope this production goes down in a conflagration that dwarfs John Carter. Card is a major homophobic asshat for whom I wish only the absolute worst. I hope this flops hard.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Congratulations on being the very LAST film site to get this story.

    by AlienFanatic

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 9:17 p.m. CST


    by wannabedirector

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 9:20 p.m. CST

    Eh, this book is way overrated.

    by jimmy_009

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Dear God, please do not have Harrison Ford in SW 7

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

    The guy now looks like an old woman. Seeing him in Star Wars now is about as sad as seeing Led Zep now on a late night talk show. So sad.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 9:22 p.m. CST

    I hope you're wrong wannabe...

    by DocOpticus

    The hunger games was a low budget joke.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 9:37 p.m. CST

    The should never do the sequels to this film

    by kingoflight

    just one film done good and leave it..

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Bill Murray is doing GB 3

    by SK229

    Was that ever posted here? If so, didn't see it.

  • If the film is a hit, they'll probably have Ender fighting the buggers again, or some such nonsense.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 9:40 p.m. CST


    by Jay

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Looks alright, but Ender looks to tall/old

    by kevred

    He should be younger and smaller. If he looks like some lanky teenager, it ruins the whole dynamic. They made plenty of great films with younger kids in the 80s. Don't tell me they can't do it now.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 9:56 p.m. CST

    The story has been compressed into a single year...

    by P. David that the same actor can play Ender through the whole movie. Personally, I can live with Ender being too tall if the actor is right for the role.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 9:57 p.m. CST

    re: nora inu's ranking of mormons...

    by bubcus

    Don't forget these well-loved Mormons: Glen A. Larson - Battlestar Galactica Don Bluth - The Secret of Nimh and The Land Before Time Gordon Jump - WRKP's Mr Carlson Jon Heder - Napoleon Dynamite Gary Kurtz - Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back Anyway, loved the Ender's Game book and I am hoping this film is amazing. A little sad that the actor playing Ender grew up so quickly. He looks too old for the role now but I'll remain hopeful this will all work out.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 10:13 p.m. CST


    by chainsaw autotune

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 10:15 p.m. CST

    sk229, that story has been debunked. Murray is still not doing GB 3

    by Bobo_Vision

    Apparently the site that created and spread the story is a satire site similar to the Onion, and then the rumor spread like wildfire. Google the story again but only look at articles from the last 24 hours.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Han should die in the opening scene of Episode 7...

    by P. David

    His death should mean something, but it should happen at the beginning of the film. That way, he's in the Sequel Trilogy—and doesn't he really HAVE to be?—but we don't have to endure the sad spectacle of an aging Han Solo running around for an entire movie, or three.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Aren't these kids a little... old?

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    It's been awhile since I read the novel, but I believe most of the children were between 7 and 10. These kids look like they're in high school. And I hope that's not Ender getting the stink-eye from Ford. Ender was one of the smallest kids there. It was one of the biggest things he had to overcome in order to lead his team. I really hate it when a good book is made into a movie and the producers, writers or whoever decide that in adapting the book to the screen they must change things. I understand that somethings don't translate from the written word to a visual media without the need for interpretation. I hate it when plot points or themes are changed just to be different. If you wanted to change that stuff, maybe you should've made an original movie. In the book the kids were very young for a reason. They weren't thinking about what college they might go to after graduation.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 10:21 p.m. CST


    by Mark

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Oh fuck... ah well...

    by SK229

    There's always the video game. I still say he's gonna wind up doing it, though. Thanks for the heads up bobo.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Starship Troopers: The Early Years

    by GeorgieBoy

    Yeah, the outline of the story and this shot makes me think of Starship Troopers. Earth fighting bugs? Yep. Old codger yelling and young kids? Yep.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Dumb question

    by David Duchovny

    Saw this book on the shelves for decades and never read it. Any good?

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Wait, Harrison Ford is still alive?

    by J

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Battlefield Earth is one of my favorite novels

    by David Duchovny

    Almost committed suicide a third of the way through the film. Here's hoping the fans of this one have a better movie going experience.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 10:39 p.m. CST

    There are no dumb questions...

    by P. David

    Ender's Game is a masterpiece of the genre. It's not primarily about a war with aliens. It's a psychological drama that deals with the question of whether killing is ever justified.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 10:40 p.m. CST

    How can people not know what the finger of doom is?

    by David Duchovny

    but I'll play along. here.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 10:41 p.m. CST


    by David Duchovny

    ty ty. I'll check it out. Sounds interesting.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 11:12 p.m. CST

    good to see harrison embracing sci fi again

    by Hugh Gustavus

    knows what the fans want

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 11:14 p.m. CST

    Orson Scott Card hates caffeine.

    by Simpsonian

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 11:15 p.m. CST

    I'll give it a try...

    by BloodiedFox

    ...once it gets onto a format I can watch it without giving a penny to OSC. How a man like that wrote a book like Enders Game I will never know.

  • Who gives a shit if the author hates gay people? Excluding actual gay people, of course. Let them fight their own fucking fight.

  • I agree with the other talkbackers, the age, and especially Ender's size, were a big part of the story.

  • decent world they got going there. I like the "bland" look. It makes it more realistic. Like the way Carpenter shot everything mad bland.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 11:45 p.m. CST

    They're all too old

    by prunkhaft

    And Mazer (who I understand is the role Ford is playing) does not interact with other "students". Except maybe Bean in minor way. Had Kubrick lived a tad longer and made Enders Game with Haley Joel Osment in '99 (with Spielberg producing) instead of AI we might get a good result. As it is, this still does not inspire confidence on my part.

  • Dec. 5, 2012, 11:49 p.m. CST

    @georgecauldron: WRONG (BTW SPOILERS)

    by tailhook

    Like dude.. have you read the books in like 20 years? Bean was the smallest. And Ender was simply very passive aggressive with OCD and massive strategic intellect. When he cut loose, he played to destroy and whatever he lashed out at died. He wasn't the biggest dog in the yard, but he could figure out what had to happen to use the resources available to win. Thats why he was ideal. Not because of his fucking stature. His wasn't a Napolean Complex. Its going to be interesting to see if they play shit straight up and actually have him murder Stilson at the start like he does in the book. They can play it the same way np with the outcome of Stilson's fate only revealed later. And if Hood and Butterfield don't have the ability to mask whats going on and make people not only believe its a simulation, but WANT the buggers to die? They might as well not even bother. Up until the point the Little Doctor goes off, people better believe its all simulations and setup for the big rah rah fight. But once that WMD goes off there should be no doubt at all it wasn't, complete with screaming Buggers dying into the night and the stark realization of what has occured leading to an absolute gutwrenching conclusion of Ender climbing aboard that ship to go on the long journey to find a planet where the final unborn Queen can survive and the Buggers can start anew. Thats Enders Game. It is not a kids film and one you leave with your head held high.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 12:16 a.m. CST

    I'll be the board liberal tonight

    by David Duchovny

    Must be a Jew thing. Didn't know he was a homophobe. Won't be reading the book. I'm sure he's shedding tears that I won't be purchasing his ebook but there it is.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 12:27 a.m. CST

    Orson Scott Card is

    by RoosterBooster71

    a mormon.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 1:06 a.m. CST

    nope nope nope

    by SpaghettiWall

    Not interested in giving a homophobe money. unless of course it's eminem

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 1:19 a.m. CST

    Gavin Hood? This will suck.

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 2:01 a.m. CST

    No no no, you misheard. Card is a MORON, not a Mormon.

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

  • I feel as old as Ford. :(

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 2:02 a.m. CST

    One day, we will all look like Harrison Ford.

    by CodeName

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 2:24 a.m. CST

    Any sci-fi fan should read Ender's Game

    by Mattman

    Ignore the fact that Card is a Mormon. That doesn't rear it's ugly head until the sequels. Ender's Game is a masterwork. Simple and to the point, with a great ending.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 2:24 a.m. CST

    ITS, not it's

    by Mattman

    Fuck me.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 2:26 a.m. CST

    Is everyone prepared for this to tank?

    by Nintendarth

    It's going to do so poorly it's going to make SPEED RACER look like a box-office extravaganza. CAN'T WAIT for AMERICA to say NO TO HARD SCI-FI YET AGAIN! Do you think Hollywood will finally listen?

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 2:36 a.m. CST

    He's the biggest kid, because it's Dragon army

    by David Cloverfield

    I hope.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 3:12 a.m. CST

    Ender's game is not brilliant, but it's an entertaining book

    by mutombo

    Those who say it's the best sci-fi novel ever written are entitled to their opinions, but there are simply much better ones out there; whether its escapist pulp or hard sci-fi. That said, I found Ender's Game to be pretty fun, and think it'll translate well to a film. Also, fuck you fucks who're asking the question: since when is it bad to hate gay people. Go back to your backwards farms, you close minded pathetic fat redneck fucks. Also, why is OSC homophobic? What's the source?

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 3:21 a.m. CST

    Ford's playing Graff, not Rackham

    by Losers_Game

    So he really should be in Battle School.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 3:46 a.m. CST

    Thank you, Herc! :-)

    by tangcameo

    I forget you're probably busy with a million thing. Plus Christmas and rehab on top of that. We probably sound like that latest Dork Tower cartoon sometimes to you, if not all the time.

  • ...copies and viewings from schools that use it in their curriculum. During my bookstore days, I was amazed what the teachers were having their kids read in English. A lot better than 'Shane' or 'The Outsiders' or 'The Pearl' (forgive me John Steinbeck!) that I had to slog through.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 4:02 a.m. CST

    who cares if he hates gays

    by Hugh Gustavus

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 4:25 a.m. CST

    He looks like Steve Martin

    by James


  • Dec. 6, 2012, 5:27 a.m. CST

    I don't understand the love for this at all...


    The book was ok, but not the masterpiece that its made out to be. I don't think it'll translate to screen very well either. There were A LOT of training room exercises in the book, are they just going to show those over and over and over with nothing much else going on? They'll tone the violence down for a teen market and the trailers will look exactly like a Hunger Games cash in to anyone who hasn't read that book. Even if they don't water it down so much that it actually becomes a Hunger Games rip off that is. I predict low box office on this.

  • He is an asshole. How does anything about the private lives of gay people affect him in any way? He can fuck off, along with anyone else that hates a group of people just because. When I was a kid learning about the civil rights movement, I couldn't understand how people could be so hateful because of the color of someone's skin. Today it's even worse. Now people hate other people because of the way they have sex. Fuck off with your useless opinion.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 6:49 a.m. CST

    Cudos to fawst for talking sense!

    by olo

    If you have any moral bone in your body, this should not even be something you have to think about, it would be your default state of mind. Opinionated fascists, take a good look at yourself and rid yourself of humanity if you can't see the pure hateful immorality of condemning other people because they are different form you. Never read anything by Card that impressed me, but never read Ender's Game either, never appealed to me, but I will give the movie a chance if it is any good. It is about time for another intelligent SciFi movie, there are not many of them....

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 7:04 a.m. CST

    This is HUGELY disappointing...

    by Michael Morning

    ...the kids are WAY too old. Ender was a child, not a teenager. That was the whole point of the book. Having them be teens is going to make this look like a HUNGER GAMES knockoff when in fact ENDER'S GAME was around a hell of a lot longer and was/is a vastly superior book. In fact, it's my 2nd all-time favorite sci-fi novel (as it is for friends of mine). In its day, it was very cutting edge; the idea of depicting such violence from young children hadn't been seen since LORD OF THE FLIES. It's a shame they waited too long to make it and now diluted the impact by making the children teens. Typical Hollywood.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 7:11 a.m. CST


    by Ender's Jeesh

    Does not hate gay people. He disagrees with the lifestyle which simply squares with his religious convictions... as does every other fucking religion in the world. But it's not okay to believe in stuff anymore or follow any dogma beyond snarky narcissism so people go on sites like this and espouse complete untruths. Ender's Game is INDEED a brilliant book. People who don't acknowledge probably also describe The Walking Dead as "meh." It is smart, insightful, poignant and a cracking good sci-fi story. On the other hand, I stopped buying Stephen King books 20 years ago when he became an insufferable liberal asshole (Want to pay more taxes? Give you fucking money to the fucking government and shut up about it already), so I guess turnabout is fair play.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 7:46 a.m. CST

    Ender's jeesh

    by Bobo_Vision

    You start out criticizing people for being biased against Card for his belief system, and end by ranting against King for his belief system, and showing that you have no real argument, but merely share Card's beliefs. Is that a fair analysis?

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Just read Card's anti gay essay

    by Amfpsych

    It sounds very much like it's written by a guy that's had homosexual urges and perhaps has acted upon them.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 8:16 a.m. CST

    I can tell from one photo that this movie is going to SUCK!!!

    by Gary Makin

    Just kidding.

  • I guess there's still a chance it won't blow, but I'd be surprised. The book was great though from what I remember.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 8:29 a.m. CST

    And in today's weird coincidence...

    by Darkling

    Harrison Ford returns to science fiction playing Colonel Graff. And the actor playing Colonel Graff's aide is named... Han Soto.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST

    A couple of things...

    by chiwrtr72

    The kids are supposed to be 12 in the movie as they compress it to one year and try to balance between kids and maturity of the role. This movie does not need to be R. If Dark Knight, as dark and disturbed as it is, was PG-13 then Ender's Game with the same rating should be fine. This book can translate well to the big screen now that it is no long being combined with Ender's Shadow. Whining about Ender's height was like the whiners about Ledger's Joker make up. It's the actor and the story that will make or break it. Oh, and Card is an idiot about homosexuality.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 9:02 a.m. CST

    I hate shitty movies

    by animas

    so I must be "phobic" of them. fucking pc retards... l

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Is this another Hunger Games drek with annoying kids?

    by Logan_1973

    In that case no thanks. In this post-Harry Potter world, we're going to get these teen movies left and right.

  • Ender's Game—the book, at least—is a masterpiece. It's intelligent, deeply psychological, and intended for adults.

  • Seriously, if I was Ender, I would End Her and slam my John Thomas between those sweet sweater melons! She's 18, right?

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 10:36 a.m. CST


    by Ender's Jeesh

    First, no, I don't share Card's mores. I agree with him on a lot, just not this. But I don't condemn him for being a vigorously religious person and stating what he believes in a reasonable fashion. He doesn't want to round gays up and stick them in camps. He simply believes, via his dogma, that there is something fundamentally wrong with a person "inflicted" with homosexuality. Newsflash: he's not the only person in the world who believes this. However, I have a young son whom I'm 99% sure is gay, and I know for a fact there is nothing "wrong" with him and he was simply born of this persuasion. But I'm not going to beat Card up for having beliefs that conflict with mine. That describes, well, everyone in the fucking world. Second, I thought "I guess turnabout is fair play" was a pretty blatant way of saying I'm guilty of it, too. And therefore, not perfect, like everyone else on the Internet. I freely admit the liberal religions of higher taxes and global warming and portraying all forms of conservatism as evil has driven me away from the likes of King, Penn, Robbins, Sarandon, Springsteen, etc.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Yes but does he play an electric genius type person?

    by Ricardo

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 10:55 a.m. CST

    I'm excited for this, but the kid doesn't look smart enough.

    by FluffyUnbound

    What does a smart kid look like? I can't explain, but you should look at the kid and think *Well that's obviously a smart fucking kid.* Kind of like how in MASTER AND COMMANDER you half expected Max Pirkis to push Russel Crowe's big dumb ass out of the way and take over the ship. This kid kind of looks like a schmuck. But I like the set work. And I like Harrison Ford actually summoning some energy. There's no way I'm not seeing this opening night even if this kid is fucking Corky, anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter. I'm just sayin.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Of course the Mormon religion was racist until 1978

    by chiwrtr72

    So we should see them catch up to accepting homosexuality in 2110.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 11:02 a.m. CST


    by Royston Lodge

    That's what I see in this photo.

  • Yawn.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 11:32 a.m. CST

    ender's jeesh

    by BloodiedFox

    He doesn't want to round gays up and stick them in camps.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Fucking quotation marks!!!

    by BloodiedFox

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Let's try that again: ender's jeesh

    by BloodiedFox

    Card has called for the recriminalisation of homosexuality, meaning the imprisonment of all homosexuals. So yeah, actually he does want us rounded up and stuck somewhere, and that includes, with 99% certainty, your son. Starting to see why a lot of people don't like him and don't want to give him any of their money?

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Seriously though, quotation marks eat the post!?

    by BloodiedFox

    Who fucking coded this? A concussed ferret?

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Why is the novel so great? (spoilers)

    by Darth Macchio

    Well, all due credit to subjective opinion of course but I think most of the people who claim to hold Ender's Game in high, if not the highest, regard are probably going off that last chapter. Card himself wrote a rather lengthy intro where he repeatedly does not call nor consider himself a science-fiction author. And the book is a great read but the ending is what flipped what would otherwise be just a great sci-fi novel into one of the best novels I've ever read, not just best sci-fi. It's an emotional connection that comes full circle with both Ender, the story narrative, and the reader him or herself. I've only ever been brought to real emotion 3 times reading fiction: Lord of the Rings, The Talisman (King/Straub) and Ender's Game. But it wasn't sadness or despair but an overwhelming sense of hope and wonder and repentance, a spiritual equalization if that makes sense (it doesn't)...hard to articulate actually and my description makes it sound revolutionary when it's not, it's just a very beautiful and profound ending to a great story that elevates it beyond your average sci-fi tale. and yes, it's unlike really anything that comes prior and if they skip it or shirk any aspects of it, it will ruin this movie utterly. It is, as we've always know it, the 'morale' to the story. i think if that last chapter didn't hit you like it did others, then the book simply wouldn't be nearly as profound as it would for those of us still thinking of that ending years later. been too long for me..need to read it again! (and i have zero faith in this adaptation - given those involved in writing and directing (no offense boborci)...but given my love of the source material, i'd be thrilled to be proven utterly wrong. point of fact, im hoping i am wrong.)

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Not a fan of this book at all.

    by ganymede3010

    I just couldn't get into how serious they actually were about prognosticating and practicing the future of combat, which primarily takes place in low gravity environment's and consists of mastering the arts of bouncing of walls and slow acrobatic maneuvering. This book was a total bore to me, however plenty of others think otherwise and I respect their opinions, this story just didn't connect with me.

  • Ultimate Iron Man book?

  • Videogame, Advent Rising?

  • Mormon movies...?

  • Comments about Jews, gays, and black people?

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Oh, yeah, him. I heard he was an okay writer once.

    by Baked

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 1:34 p.m. CST

    I respect OSC a lot more than I respect...

    by tailhook

    the pitchfork mafia that likes to try to think better of themselves by bandwagoning every meme on these forums. At least he's a productive and creative artist in the literary arena. I don't make my entertainment choices based on a laundry list of political causes the author may or may not adhere to, and anyone who does is simply a wingnut nutjob(left or right) that doesn't really enjoy books or media on their merits anyways and is only really concerned over which books get thrown into the fire.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST

    The book is the book, guys.

    by FluffyUnbound

    Ted Bundy could have written it. It would still be a good book. Card seems to have a writerly identity that is separate from his political identity. Hell, if you read the short story collection FOLK OF THE FRINGE without knowing anything about him, you'd swear he was some kind of bizarro world pinko crunchy Mormon (if such an entity could exist). I thought Edward Said and Che ghostwrote half that shit.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Just let Chris Pine play Han Solo

    by zer0cool2k2

    or would the universe implode if Kirk and Solo were the same guy?

  • Star Wars rules.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 4:06 p.m. CST

    personal opinions and boycotting based on opinion..

    by Darth Macchio

    It's one thing to boycott an individual for his or her views, another to boycott an organization that has a budget and determined individuals working for something I would disagree with or consider a blight on our collective society. Card, from what I understand, is just an outspoken religious type who's prone to espouse his views here or there. And, apparently, those views do not include the support for gay people. So I've heard anyway (I have no idea other than what I've read about him on the topic, not anything written by him on the topic). So far as I know, he's not beating up gay people, chasing them down with a machine gun turreted a-team truck, or running for office under a platform of discrimination, he's not canvasing the planet trying to get people to sign petitions to permanently adjust the US constitution to incorporate discrimination, etc, etc, etc... I disagree with his views as I understand them. Vehemently. But given he's not, so far as I know, actively working to reduce the human status of gay people, much less working to remove/reduce/prevent their equality so what does it matter? We get the same thing when people go nuts when Matt Damon or Bob Costas dare to speak out on something...all of the sudden, they're partisan hacks spouting communist screed and who's work must be boycotted and avoided at all costs. I have friends who will not have anything to do with any number of celebrities simply for their views. Not for anything they did. No Arnie. No Tim Robbins. No Sean Penn. No Ron Silver. No Dennis Miller. No Bill Maher. And the list grows and grows and grows... I don't shop/do business at Wal-Mart, Chik-Fil-A, Exxon, or BP because those companies either made massive avoidable (and corruption filled) fuckups that destroyed ecosystems and snuffed out the life of millions of animals on land and sea, or have a self-righteously nihilistic approach to capitalism that actually erodes the real benefits of said capitalism, or actively put money and extensive resources towards denigrating any aspect of any life, human or otherwise. Do they care? Of course not. Does my lack of business hurt them? Laughable - if ten thousand people felt the same as I did, it still wouldn't matter to them. But I find there's a big difference between giving you ten bucks if you have different opinions from mine with which I completely disagree, compared to giving you ten bucks when you're actively working for something I despise or actively screwing the world up for everybody but you. There's a fine line there...a close tread to hypocrisy...but until I hear differently, it's a line I'll choose to balance on given how simply good Ender's Game is as a novel.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Ever Heard Card's Voice?

    by Lesbianna_Winterlude

    He's really just hating on himself. A fairly common psychological phenomenon, really.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 4:42 p.m. CST


    by Two

    I agree, the kids look too old. Only the one in yellow to the left looks correct. Also, Battle school looks darn clean and bright. Somehow I expected something darker, scarier. Or maybe that's just how it felt reading it as a young teen. Can't judge much from this one image, but the vibe is NOT great. The acting better take this to the level it needs to go. Really, it all comes down to that.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 4:51 p.m. CST

    wasn't Ender like 9 years old in the book?

    by PlayerHater_of_the_year

    So now the kids are all teenagers?

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Bob Orci and his buddy wrote this right? So we're pretty much fucked.

    by Refrigerator_running

    *sigh* I'll wait for Netflix or HBO go then, just like I did with cowboys and aliens (thank God) and what I'll be doing with StarTrek after dark (or whatever it's called)

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Very well put, darth macchio

    by NewAndrew

    My grandma was a raging racist, but that didn't prevent me from eating every last bite of her fantastic cooking up until the moment the cranky old hag kicked the bucket. On topic, these kids look way to old. It just doesn't work. I would expect a bunch of kids more like Elliot in ET. Or Joel Haley Osment in The Sixth Sense. Small, smart, accessible, but frightening to think they are so capable of destruction. I don't really have a problem believing that teens are capable of destruction...that's old news. Get the age wrong and the whole dynamic loses most of its punch. Sad creative choice, really.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 6:27 p.m. CST


    by Todaysfate

    Is the average movie consumer of today supposed to know what "Ender's Game" is? Like we were supossed to know what "John Carter" was?

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 6:53 p.m. CST


    by Jeff

    I hope Gavin Hood hits one out of the park with this. "Tsotsi" was such an assured, powerful film with such great acting performances, that I've been hoping to see more of THAT director. The screenshot looks fine to me. Shows Ford in charge of his recent crew of younglings he'll be throwing into anti-grav combat training. Hope Gavin Hood pushed them to bring great acting performances to the film.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 7:20 p.m. CST


    by Ender's Jeesh

    Of course we all want the story to begin when Ender is 5 and go from there, but it just wasn't possible. To do so you'd need to perform 2 miracles; find a dozen 6-8-year-old actors capable of playing these parts, then find a dozen 10-12-year-old actors who look exactly like the 6-8-year-olds to play the second half of the book. Miracle #3, given the laws surrounding child labor, would then be to find all of the above, but in twin form so principle photography wouldn't take 18 months. I don't LOVE that they aged them up to 16; it removes a lot of the turmoil surrounding Ender's entry into Battle School and being the youngest, smallest, etc. (at least until Bean appears), but I don't see how else they could have done it. Also, OSC has been VERY quiet on the EG Movie front, where in years past he would at least post a couple of updates a year on the progress of the film. But NOTHING since production actually started, leading me to believe he is not entirely pleased. That the whole project was sort of taken out of his hands after writing draft after draft for 10 years.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 7:20 p.m. CST

    dear god, let this be this gens star wars

    by walt

    so we can put twilight in its grave once and for all

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 7:25 p.m. CST


    by DocOpticus


  • Dec. 6, 2012, 7:36 p.m. CST

    The Orci & Kurtzman saddled up

    by evergreen

    Fuck me.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 7:45 p.m. CST


    by Ender's Jeesh

    I think it perfectly reasonable to stop patronizing artists who go out of their way to insult me because of my political beliefs by inserting their little sucker punches in just about every movie, TV show and album they produce. If I went to a party and shit on their dinner table, they likely wouldn't invite me back. I'm just returning the favor.

  • I'm also 30 if that matters. Is that too old for them?

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 8:36 p.m. CST


    by P. David

    Ender's Game is a must. Ender's Shadow is not. And no, you are not too old. Ender's Game is a novel for adults. Certain mature kids will find it rewarding (I was thirteen when I first discovered Ender) but it isn't a YA novel like Hunger Games.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 10:07 p.m. CST

    Two cents: I love the books and I always will

    by Jaka

    But I had them all for many years, and had read most of them many times, before cards religious and political views became an issue. I imagine it would be very difficult, if not impossible, for me to read them from an open minded, nonjudgmental place now. In fact, I'd find it impossible to spend the hundred bucks or so (I have all of his early books) to buy those books after knowing all the stuff he's written and said outside of his fiction works. <p> However, that doesn't change the fact that when I read Ender's Game it blew my fucking mind. Nor does it have any affect on my waiting for twenty years to see this book as a movie. I'm going to see the movie, and I hope I enjoy it. Card's religious and political views play no part in that equation.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Everyone bitching about the age...

    by Sean McArdle

    You can't shoot it with 6 year olds. The kids in the novel were 6, but they were also genetically engineered to be geniuses. You couldn't film it with 6 year olds because 6 year olds can't emote the complex range of emotions required, dont have the capability to convincingly act like brilliant military geniuses and wouldn't appear to be a credible physical threat on screen. It'd be laughable. What, you really want to see genius baby Bean outsmarting adults, climbing into toilets and surviving on the streets by himself? It reads well because you're imagining it not visualizing it. If you really saw it it'd look like Baby Geniuses In Space. Besides, if they were genetically engineered to have higher intellects, perhaps they were also engineered to mature physically faster.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 10:14 p.m. CST


    by Jaka

    I agree with pdb 100%. Also, IMO, if you're going to read more than one I still think it's best to start with the four original novels (Ender's Game, Speaker For The Dead, Xenocide and Children Of The Mind), then go back and read whatever looks interesting to you afterwards. Those four books were written well before everything else and stand alone (for me) very well. Everything else (at least what I've read of it) is very hit and miss in regards to quality and reading necessity.

  • ...but I like it. There are many other things that are much more important to me than this particular set, regardless.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Will flop.. the age

    by MurderMostFowl

    I'm going the other direction here.. they should have made them even older... late teens... early 20 somethings even. People would cry fowl, in the Ender's forums, but seriously this film will never have gravitas without adult actors. You can get away with ONE kid being younger... 16 or so... Ender or Bean... you can't have both and have a meaningful movie. Also the twist will fall flat because it's been done to death in SciFi in the last 30 years. It was novel at the time, and compelling... not so much anymore. If you made the movie out of several of the books and made the big twist be important, but Ender's guilt and redemption be the focus you could pull it off. You could do this with a trilogy too, but the rest of the books are with mostly unrelated ( like speaker for the dead ) or deeply "hard" scifi that will lose the audience. I hope the film succeeds, I really do. I wish that this move got made instead off all the crappy scifi we've gotten for the last 10 years or so. If it was Ridley Scott making it, I would have faith, but it isn't.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 10:23 p.m. CST

    mjdeviant ... Read Ender's game definitely

    by MurderMostFowl

    Ender's shadow is interesting, but even though it takes place at the same time as Ender's game, you've got at least 2 other books to read first before it really gets put into perspective.

  • ...exactly why they've stayed focused on just getting Ender's Game to screen (and that was nearly impossible, too).

  • Although I understand why they aged them a bit (although the girl with breasts in that pic looks wrong), I still wish they had kept them closer to their original ages. Older wouldn't work at all, at least not unless they were going to completely change the book and tell a different story on film. Their age, how young they were, was an important part of what grabbed you and held your interest, as well as your disbelief about what was happening to them. Make them older and it's just another war/war games movie, for the most part.

  • Looks I will have to go to the library once again against Knope's orders...

  •'ll be happy you did so. Everything else is something different. Myself, I loved the three books that followed, but they are definitely hard scifi of the highest order. Very high concept and philosophy based. <p> The Shadow books were written after the fact, and although they're more grounded to the world you're first introduced to in Ender's Game, they don't actually have much to do with Ender directly. They sometimes weave themselves in and around what was happening in those other books, but they're mostly about other characters you were introduced to in Ender's Game. Sometimes they're telling a bit of the same story seen through different eyes, sometimes they're telling new stories using those previously introduced characters (a few of them in particular, and one especially), all of it while Ender was off being a genius in other parts of the universe (at least that's how I remember them). They're good books, but most people that I've discussed them with don't rate them as highly as the first four. <p> There's also a good number of short stories, and new a trilogy of novels (only the first has been released) about what happened on Earth before the events in Ender's Game. I have read very little of that (and probably won't read any more), so I can't really comment on the importance of those stories.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 11:55 p.m. CST


    by TheEnemy8

    Why is everything so clean? ugh. The future did not look this nice and spacious in the book.

  • Dec. 6, 2012, 11:56 p.m. CST

    Let me see you warface!

    by DougMcKenzie

    AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Doesn't scare me! Work on it!

  • Dec. 7, 2012, 12:16 a.m. CST

    I don't think it looks terrible, but I did picture it...

    by Jaka

    ...darker, and more grimy. I always pictured it more like how the Army would build a base the future. Makes me want to re-read the book again, to be honest.

  • Dec. 7, 2012, 1:48 a.m. CST

    @theenemy8: the cleanliness

    by tailhook

    Never been in the military? Especially the Navy? As soon as you have nothing better to do, they always have you clean. Even if its clean, clean it again. Everything all squared away and shit with everything having an exact spot and with your ass getting reamed if so much as a button is undone. Its exactly what I would think a military base in space would look like. Anybody who doesn't, has never been in the military.

  • Dec. 7, 2012, 2:03 a.m. CST

    @jaka: The Books

    by tailhook

    I consider Speaker for the Dead to be a far better book than Ender's Game and one of the best novels he's ever written. In a lot of ways it was an Empire Strikes Back to the iconography of Ender's Game's SW, and a lot of the fanbase reacted to it in a similar way. Xenocide and Children of the Mind were by and large yawners. Xenocide in particular when it delved into the science behind his version of FTL simply put me to sleep. The Bean books were interesting, but by that point he was by and large cranking regular books. Once that ended, this new stuff is just sell out material to pay the mortgage. I only ever really reread Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead. Whats interesting is that not too long ago a British TV series took a swing at adapting some of the concepts from SftD, with multiple lifeforms(including viruses) at odds on a desolate world, yet being codependent on the others to survive. On facevalue for the newb it was a take on Earth 2, but if you got into the show it was clear they were more going for a SftD style setup. It only lasted one season. Trying to remember the name. Ahh.. Outcasts (2010). Its on Netflix streaming.

  • Card has gone on record again and again saying he would refuse ANY attempt to make ENDER'S GAME if Big Hollywood refused to let the entire movie feature the characters at their book-correct ages of 10-11. He RAILED against Hollywood for constantly trying to destroy production after production of this movie that were in-the-works by insisting that the characters be age-accelerated into teenagers. He has said in multiple interviews in major sci-fi magazines that this was the reason the productions never got past the script stage, because Hollywood compromised his vision of how the movie would look and the meaning of the plot being about a kid's perspective of war. Guess they cut him a big enough check this time. And it's hilarious. Because the guy is a loathsome piece of garbage unworthy of the time of day. It will be positively wonderful, too, to watch this movie crash a burn like a ship on fire off the Tranzor Z gate.

  • Dec. 7, 2012, 8:22 a.m. CST

    Is it bad that this picture'

    by TheMachinist

  • Dec. 7, 2012, 8:23 a.m. CST

    Is it bad that this is exactly how I pictured the book?

    by TheMachinist

  • Dec. 7, 2012, 8:23 a.m. CST

    Like, down to a damn tee.

    by TheMachinist


  • Dec. 7, 2012, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Ender's Game is a truly great book - worth reading

    by I_Snake_Plissken

    The original Ender series is okay - although Speaker for the Dead is very cerebral sci-fi, very little action. It's interesting though in that it's basically the story of Ender's Guilt. Ender's Shadow was also surprisingly good - but then Card started milking the Ender name for all it's worth and the quality of books drops quickly. I'm very curious about this movie - part of the original novel are very dark, maybe that's already lifted a bit by making the kids older, but I still wonder if they have the balls to make the real movie.

  • My really question is why the fuck Hollywood hasn't made Greg Bear's "The Forge of God" and "Anvil of Stars" duology. Friggin crime! The best, "hard" Sci-Fi book I have read which has been released within the last five years is "Blindsight" by Peter Watts.

  • Read a couple of great books from him a ways back, though.

  • And it's sequels. Scalzi hit it exactly perfect for me with those books. But again, in theory, a lot way out their sci-fi of it is either unfilmable or would come as unbelievable or joky. The heart of the story would make for a great movie(s), imo.

  • ....because I love it, too. I'm one of the few people I know who genuinely loves Xenocide and Children of the Mind, too (although, yes, they are slower). But for me, Ender's Game is still the best of the four.

  • Dec. 8, 2012, 1:42 a.m. CST

    @tritium: allready beat you to the SftD love :>

    by tailhook

    8 posts above yours. One thing I'm really hoping is if they can hit the right chord for Ender's Game that they'll go the whole 9 yards with Speaker for the Dead and not go flailing off into the Shadow movies with Bean. As hard as Ender's Game is to film, Speaker for the Dead is 1000 times harder to get right because a lot of the story isn't dependent on action but on the interaction of species(a lot of them CGI) are going to be very hard to get right and require a fairly substantial budget. It also poses the dilemma that Asa Butterfield really will need a couple of years to grow out of the kid stage to have some type of physicality and adult-type weight to his presence. You simply cannot pull off the weight needed as a Speaker for the Dead as kid, it would be tonally wrong. Like having a pastor be a 15-year old kid. Nobody would listen, nobody would hire.

  • Just read it like a word scramble. If you move them around to the right place it makes sense. lol

  • Dec. 8, 2012, 11:40 a.m. CST

    I've seen Enders Game for about a month now...

    by mattforce7

    and BOIIY let me tell you, its SMART and WITTY and Oh theres a poo in Mr Harrisons' pant leg, someone forgot to attach his crap trap again...

  • Dec. 9, 2012, 5:05 a.m. CST


    by NewAndrew

    You wrote: "Is the average movie consumer of today supposed to know what "Ender's Game" is? Like we were supossed to know what "John Carter" was?" Thanks for identifying yourself as an illiterate dumbass with no sense of sci-fi history. Many of us -- especially the ones who can read and write -- have read classics, modern or otherwise. Your "average movie consumer" -- and by that, I guess you mean halfwit mouthbreather -- can shove it up his or her Whopper Jr. eating butt. You and your fellow AMCs are precisely the neanderthals Hollywood makes movies for. Thanks for dragging the rest of us into your gutter.