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Looks like it really could be Matthew Vaughn directing STAR WARS: EPISODE VII!!!
Hey folks, Harry here... Ol Frosty at Collider.com told us this... all the way back at the beginning of all these rumors. In fact, this has been RUMOR #1. Well, the folks at @DIYTV in London were doing the "green carpet" interviews for 7 PSYCHOPATHS. They talked with Sam Rockwell & Martin McDonagh, producer Graham Broadbent... they took photos of the doggies on the green carpet... and then they let slip this tweet:
We chatted to the lovely Jason Flemyng who pretty much let slip that Matthew Vaughn will be on Star Wars IV duties oops!#Jameson7Psychos
Now before you start freaking out that Disney is hiring Matthew Vaughn to direct a remake of STAR WARS... Don't because they also tweeted this follow up:
We mentioned earlier about Matthew Vaughn's involvement in Star Wars IV When we of course meant Star Wars VII. We'll blame the cold.
Alright - so here we are with a tweet from a Green Carpet event - with an actor... mind you, an actor that has had an incredibly close and long working relationship and friendship with Matthew Vaughn. NOW - keep your eyes on their Twitter account to see if they actually disclose what Flemyng said that "pretty much let slip" that Vaughn is strong with the force.
Well... Personally, I still think that's a great choice, but what I'm curious about is this. We know that Disney has hired Kasdan & Kinberg to write Episode VIII and IX. Will they hire different directors for each episode or would they lock in a Director to helm all 3. I love these rumors - how about you?
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i doubt it
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I think an ultra violent Star Wars is the last thing we need.
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Confirm or do not.
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I liked a few of the movies he's made so far. His X-Men First Class blew me away as I expected it to be worse than it actually was. Stardust is awfully under-appreciated, but I see it as eventually becoming a cult hit a la Princess Bride. So, Matthew Vaughn for Star Wars VII? I say bring it on!
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I'd prefer Spielberg.
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When that Colin Trevorrow tossed that wacky Hail Mary of his I was pretty worried. Fucker was already talking like the job was his. Vaughn just kind of seems a bit dull to me for some reason. LAYER CAKE was cool from what I can remember. STARDUST left a particularly rotten impression. KICK-ASS was alright but more than a bit hollow. And X-Men was tonally all out of wack, but I assume that's more a FOX thing than a Vaughn one but who the fuck knows?.. Maybe I'm just worried these new ones will lack the heart that's practically the most important part of STAR WARS. Vaughn's flicks don't seem to have much heart is what I'm saying. He's too sterile maybe, too cynical. Here's hoping he'll prove me wrong. If he wrecks it he'll have a death mark on his head, but if he nails it....he'll be a fucking hero. Parades, Statues, Songs..the whole lot.
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I don't know who the shit I'd want to direct new Star Wars movies, I'd love for them to go in crazy unexpected directions, remember when Cronenberg was going to direct a Star Wars? And David Lynch? Wish they were being crazy like that. Imagine David Fincher directing a Star Wars. Vaughn pretty safe I guess. As long as it's not Favurea (sp?).
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I need to watch KICK ASS and FIRST CLASS again with this in mind and get back to you. Personally I'd hire Joe Johnston followed by Andrew Stanton followed by Kenneth Branagh followed Jon Favreau followed Gore Verbinski followed by Rian Johnson followed by...wait a second. Haven't I been here before? Am I time traveling?
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best choice, that is
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Nov. 27, 2012, 8:27 p.m. CST
Ugh. Who gives a crap? Lifelong SW fan who does not care. Wake me when it's time to watch a trailer...
by obijuanmartinez
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Nov. 27, 2012, 8:28 p.m. CST
Guess that's a good though - With Lucas having set the bar so low w/ the Prequels, you'd be hard-pressed to arse this up any worse!
by obijuanmartinez
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Layer Cake Stardust Kick-Ass X-Men: First Class I like the trend.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 8:29 p.m. CST
excellent choice! he definitely can re-create the look of the first three episodes!
by manuehl
oh, and he also made some great movies and is married to my childhood crush. so please let this rumor be true!!!!
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Zack Brown and Miri Linky as directorial duo for Episode 7. You know it to be true!
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Antichrist is the latter years of Han and Leah... anyone?
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But I'm pretty happy about the possibility of Vaughn directing. Think about it, he left X-MEN: THE LAST STAND over issues with the Fox suits. He is interested in making a great film first and foremost, that alone gives him some artistic cred. And he actually has a style of his own, and if any movie should have an interesting style it should be an Episode of Star Wars. I'm not excited about the prospect of Joe Johnston directing because he is Spielberg-lite. And none of his films have any real emotion to them either. Nor am I excited at the prospect of Jon Favreau directing. His films feel instantly forgettable. Except for IRON MAN which had a great performance by Robert Downey Jr as Tony Stark, a great Iron Man suit, and a REALLY great ending "I am Iron Man". But he seems very pedestrian. I'm not sure there is a better candidate to direct Episode VII than Matthew Vaughn. Although I do wish Lucasfilm and Kathleen Kennedy would consider Joe Wright. I think he would be a fascinating choice. And whoever they choose I hope it's for the entire trilogy. I want a singular feel to the three films. As much as I love the Original Trilogy, the tonal shift from STAR WARS to THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK to RETURN OF THE JEDI is a little jarring. Of course some of that is very intentional, like bringing our heroes to the brink in TESB. But some of it was brought on by Lucas letting merchandising and a kid friendly tone take over ROTJ.
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Although I don't think a lot of XFC was his fault. If he can re-capture the energy and spirit he had going with STARDUST in a STAR WARS film, then we're in for something really good.
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SHIT, SHIT, SHIT.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 8:56 p.m. CST
Deep down, I think we were all expecting someone like Vaughn...
by P. David
A young director still making his mark, without a terribly impressive resume. The only thing I've seen that he's actually directed is Kick-Ass, which I loved. If he is in love with Star Wars—great, that will be the factor that puts him over the top. If he is just bowing down before Disney and doing it for his career... not so great. But I am still optimistic after the news that Kasdan is involved.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 8:57 p.m. CST
Damn there goes Bill Shatners chance
by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes
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Nov. 27, 2012, 8:58 p.m. CST
Not crazy about over-the-hill Kasdan or Vaughn, but these movies will be so much better than the garbage prequels that Im okay with it.
by dahveed1972
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Nov. 27, 2012, 8:58 p.m. CST
This could be directed by a monkey on crack and it would be better than the prequels ... Lets be excited, got a feeling we might just be very pleased with it.
by GINGE_MUPPET
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:02 p.m. CST
at least it isnt some journeyman hack or a Lucas protege. bullets dodged id say, assuming Vaughn is directing. Brad Bird is everyones first choice, but hes busy.
by dahveed1972
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:02 p.m. CST
Do I have to be the one to ask it? What the hell is a "green carpet"? We all know Harry is just waiting for someone to ask
by Bobo_Vision
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He's not as young as I thought. He just has an unimpressive resume, and hasn't made a mark. But I'm still optimistic.
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Layer Cake was an admirable attempt at Guy Ritchie stuff. Everything he's done since then is forgettable. Stardust, Kick-Ass, and X-Men are all too lean.
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He can balance action and humor perfectly for Star Wars but most important, his films always have real heart.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:21 p.m. CST
A few years ago, if someone had told me that Kick-Ass was going to be at least ten times more entertaining than the Watchmen movie...
by P. David
I would have called that person crazy. Now I'll have to watch Vaughn's other films, with SW in mind.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:21 p.m. CST
Of course you love the rumors, rumors mean clicks and clicks means cash!
by tbransonlives
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I say they should take a few years to really plan an epic trilogy and flesh it out and not rush it. By then Peter Jackson will be ready to take them all on. It would be amazing.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:26 p.m. CST
http://boards.theforce.net/threads/who-do-you-want-to-direct-episode-7.50004874/page-51
by Quarantine
I think this is a great choice. He did seem the best suited to this. Is young enough. He's a huge fan. Kickass Xmen: First Class Even Stardust Were all rated highly by critics. He understands humor and character. He knows Fx. He loves comics. Quit whining, people. This could have been much worse. Vaughn's a very solid choice. None of the older top tier directors were up for this challenge. I'm happy with this. Good scripts and a solid director should equal good Star Wars films more in line with the originals.
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http://thefilmstage.com/news/matthew-vaughn-collaborator-seemingly-confirms-director-for-star-wars-episode-vii/
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:33 p.m. CST
They got Laurence Kasdan to write it? OK, now I'm more optimistic. Vaughn's a sound choice too.
by Mr Nicholas
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I would of been on suicide watch if favreau was selected. So count your blessings
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Of course it is and it ALWAYS WAS GOING TO BE. Did anyone really think they were going to bring in auteurs to direct fucking Star Wars movies? And let's all remember what year it is now and what year it was when Lynch and Cronenberg were rumoured. When Return was going to shoot, Cronenberg had made Shivers, Rabid, Fast Company, The Brood and Scanners while Lynch had done Eraserhead and Elephant Man. Neither of these guys were the iconic Davids that they are now. They were young guys on the rise. Nobody's going to get Joss Whedon or David Fincher or whoever the fuck is on everyone's wish list. George Lucas was young, Irvin Kershner was a journeyman, Richard Marquand was a documentarian who had done one TV movie and one theatrical. If you thought a big name was going to direct a Star Wars movie then you're a fucking idiot.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:40 p.m. CST
Here are some screen grabs of Star Wars and Vaughn movies
by Quarantine
Sorry, should have explained what made that link worth going to. Here it is again. http://boards.theforce.net/threads/who-do-you-want-to-direct-episode-7.50004874/page-51
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Only because XMEN 1st Class was so much better than it had any right to be.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:42 p.m. CST
At least its someone who we know can deliver a good SW film.
by Charlie
All of his films show he is capable of doing this. Script, story and appearance of the original three is the main issue.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:49 p.m. CST
Who cares......this franchise went down the toilet a long time ago friends.
by Punisherthunder
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:52 p.m. CST
Mark Millar on Vaughn directing SW: "Nobody with more passion or enthusiasm for the project.."
by Quarantine
I really don't think there could be a better choice, especially as we've referenced Star Wars pretty much every day in the five years we've known one another.
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script that will determine whether or not this succeeds. Oh yeah one more thing: Please use of real sets when you shoot this movie. George's stance on having to shoot everything with a green screen sucked the life right out of the performances in the prequels. Ewan McGregor's was great as Obi-wan though :)
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If you hate the Prequels THAT much, isn't there a part of you that wants SW to end on a high note? Look at it this way: there is at least a chance now.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:56 p.m. CST
He dropped a much safer X-men for this in the middle of production. He probably burned bridges for this. We want that passion from somebody directing these.
by Quarantine
Any SW fan with the balls to not only drop a safe project like Xmen close to production, and take on the expectations of SW fanboys, and bang Claidia Schiffer anyway he wants to whenever he wants to is not to be messed with.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 10 p.m. CST
Some actors i would like to see him reunite with for Ep 7
by Miyamoto_Musashi
- Jennifer Lawerance as Jaina Solo, the central character of the new Trilogy, though unlikely given her Hunger Games and X-Men involvement. - Michael Fassbender - Ok, we are getting the Thrawn triolgy, but a character like Thrawn and Fassbender is the man. - Nicholas Hoult as Jacen Solo - Aaron Taylor-Johnson - Ben Skywalker - Mark Strong - brilliant actor like Fassbender, just find the guy a role - Henry Cavill - again another great actor but may be too busy being Supes. If not would make a great Jedi, one of Luke's first new fully trained Jedi and love interest of sorts for Jaina. With the Jaina, Jacen and Ben roles, call them what you want, hell they don't all need to be related but needs to be some youngsters.
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all you need is http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
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Nov. 27, 2012, 10:02 p.m. CST
quarantine, while it's impressive he's married to Claudia Schiffer, that's not how marriage works
by Bobo_Vision
The fact that he married her means he's probably not banging her any way he wants to whenever he wants to. But still, good on him for getting a hottie because he's not great to look at. They'll be divorced as soon as his career takes a dip, but I'm sure the bi-weekly missionary with Claudia will be worth the millions he gives her in the divorce settlement in 4 years.
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Okay, 79.6% but that's still a better batting average for success than many of the other names that had been mentioned.
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And of all the haters that hate on this site... You just can't hate on Empire. It's the holy grail of geekdom! Am I wrong dude? Having said that I would love to see David Fincher for Episode 8. I think he could bring that same tone to what should be the down beat of the new trilogy.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 10:10 p.m. CST
But Kick-Ass didn't make much money at all. The geeks loved it; everyone else was unimpressed...
by P. David
And this is what troubles me.
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I loved the first one, but decided to stop watching after the second and third.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 10:19 p.m. CST
Unless you're paying for these who cares how much money his last movies made? All 3 were good and critics agreed.
by Quarantine
Star Wars will make Death Star's worth of money. Vaughn has elevated everything he's been given thus far and achieved critical success. Kickass and Stardust only had small cult followings before the movies were made. It's not as though those were massive properties with billions of fans. I'd easily prefer a director who's had consistent critical success than some hack who's had more than a few movies less than 40% that made lots of money and we all know who those directors are.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 10:20 p.m. CST
I love 3 of the movies he's directed (XMenFC, KickAss, Stardust), and two of those are really about the interplay between the characters, so I approve
by Dreamwriter
...and KickAss made $48 million in box office, thus a profit, which is pretty good for a movie aimed at geeks.
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Someone had mentioned Sam Rockwell being a great choice to be in the new Star Wars and I agree! He would make a great Han Solo-like character. He's a damn good actor who also comes across as down to earth. Bring on the new stuff that's better than the old stuff! Imagine a new Star Wars movie that's as exciting and as well constructed as The Avengers!
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Nov. 27, 2012, 10:27 p.m. CST
When Peter Jackson did LOTR Heavenly Creatures and The Frighteners were his "big" movies
by Quarantine
He was well known for his low-budget R-rated work but Vaughn's much better prepped for this based on his last 3 films than Jackson was for LOTR.
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Don't ask me why but imagining him in Star Wars kinda works somehow. Maybe it's his voice.
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Pieces seem to be falling into place nicely and I look forward to the official announcements as to cast and crew.
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Sorry diggnan but...no. Fuck no. No Sam Rockwell,No Gary Shandling,No Vince Vaughn...in fact,I hope they manage to use unknowns as much as possible for this,except for the returning cast.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 10:36 p.m. CST
He will make a great star wars. I really think so for some reason.
by MainMan2001
Kick Ass is seriously a fun movie and the action sequence where Big Daddy dies is utterly brilliant. Hit-Girl is brilliant. I found it better then the comic actually. X-Men: First Class blew me away as well and I was expecting absolutely nothing. Layer Cake was pretty cool as well as far as those Lock Stock kinda of movies go. I haven't seen Stardust. Robert De Niro playing a gay sky pirate seems like an epic fail or a brilliant comedy. I'll check it out soon. Star Wars just seems like a natural fit. Also, I'm pretty sure he will take his game up to the level it has never been before if he has the opportunity to make a Star Wars movies. C'mon people pull your head out of your fat asses now.
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If you want to know the truth, that Mark Millar quote you posted gives me more hope than anything else. I've been saying from the start that almost any of the directors in the running will be OK, if only they are passionate about Star Wars.
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Peter Jackson's FRIGHTENERS lost a ton of money... then he made FELLOWSHIP OF THE RINGS and history was changed. Like how Joss Whedon had only made movies that underperformed, until he made AVENGERS and his history was changed. Same thing here.
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In fact, we can take it closer to home; THX-11398 bombed, big time, and American Graffiti, while wildly successful, could not have prepared the world for what Lucas would do next. I was only trying to say that critical acclaim often means little, and that box office returns often say more about the way that a film resonates.
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And Vaughn is very good at that. He's launched the careers of Daniel Craig, Mark Strong, Chloe Moretz, Aaron Johnson, Michael Fassbender, and Jennifer Lawence. Story and style aside (much of which is all predetermined for Star Wars) he gets great work out of his people, such as just about the only thing besides BL:POCLA that has a serviceable Cage in the last five years. George dropped the ball in the prequels get some bad performances from acclaimed actors left and right. I look forward to this.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 10:55 p.m. CST
Harry, Correction, It was MARKETSAW that first reported this. http://marketsaw.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/exclusive-more-secret-details-revealed.html#.ULWYxIdGfBo
by IDIOTMAGNET
Looks like their source was telling the truth. This is really incredibly exciting news if everything said there is true, and pretty much everything now known about the next trilogy was said there. Can't wait.
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Great character development and action. It stood up as an actual film, not just a comic book movie. I have no problem with him directing. And to point out the obvious, the fact that there's going to be another SW movie, and Disney seems to be taking the franchise seriously is pretty amazing.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 10:57 p.m. CST
Well, Vaughn's IMDB average score for his last 3 is 7.8/10 and that's nothing but average, everyday people voting. Contrast that with...
by Quarantine
Contrast that with Favreau, who on IMDB has an average of 6.6 out of 10 from average viewers on his last 3. Bird, Cameron, Speilberg, Whedon, Tarantino, Fincher, Blomkamp, Abrams, and Trevorrow all either declined or weren't offered it. That left Favreau, Vaughn or Johnson as the front runners. Johnson's IMDB average from average viewers is 6.3 over Captain America, Wolfman and Hidalgo. So, all things considered... Vaughn has the best mix of pleasing everyday people, critics and handling character driven fantasy/comic book fare.
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When I said that the conversation was a moot point, I just meant that the Star Wars name would sell tickets regardless of the director's qualifications. I was not suggesting that there was anything illogical about what quarantine was saying.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 11:01 p.m. CST
Here is the video link to Jason Flemying Confirming Mathew Vaughn http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DbTYiX5A3Bk
by IDIOTMAGNET
Your welcome.
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Would love either Fassbender or Strong as the heavy in the new trilogy anyday. Jennifer Lawerence would work if rumours are true that Jaina Solo is the lead as well.
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http://www.mediafire.com/?wlf2g73x26c8eut
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Nov. 27, 2012, 11:08 p.m. CST
What's also interesting is that Vaughn helped write his last 3 so he's more than just a hired gun. He understands character development.
by Quarantine
He's been involved with collaborative writing so he's more than just your traditional director for hire. Oscar winning screenwriter working with Kasdan and a rising genre director that values character, acting and story detail? We are off to a good start.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 11:13 p.m. CST
PEOPLE READ THIS, THIS MUST BE TRUE. http://marketsaw.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/exclusive-more-secret-details-revealed.html#.ULWdOYdGfBp
by IDIOTMAGNET
I am really excited I think Vaughn is a good choice, so is Cauron as mentioned in that link.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 11:15 p.m. CST
Just my luck, i dont download suspicious items from the interwebs. Can u cut and paste the synopsis and put it here? Just put a spoiler warning in the subject of the post
by Bobo_Vision
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Nov. 27, 2012, 11:16 p.m. CST
Vaughn's stretched his budgets pretty well in the past. Imagine him with more money than ever before, a dedicated ILM pushing new practical and CG to compete with Weta, and top tier DOPs, John Williams, good actors...
by Quarantine
And all that on a project he's pumped to have a shot at. This could very well be his dream project and he's going to be given everything he needs on it. I'm going to bed with some happy Star Wars thoughts in my head for the first time in a long time. Hope this is confirmed soon.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 11:20 p.m. CST
Some fools actually don't want Vaughn to direct? Please stick to whining on the internet...
by Jay
cause movie making ain't your cup of tea. Assuming this is true, I look forward to seeing all those complaining about this back-peddle their views come opening weekend.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 11:43 p.m. CST
Last time I downloaded a suspicious item from some guy on the web, it was a photo of a dude who looked like a Keebler elf naked with his erect penis resting on his belly
by Bobo_Vision
That's not what I was hoping to find.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 11:47 p.m. CST
Pre-production started in earnest this summer. Arndt has been working on this for awhile, and they probably closed the deal on the director already.
by AzulTool
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Nov. 27, 2012, 11:48 p.m. CST
Hey, don't diss amorous elves with the HOBBIT premiere mere hours away!
by justmyluck
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If you ever decide to be a stand up comedian. Print this comment section off. Its official, most of the people who post on AICN are nuts. Oh and .. Star Wars directed by Matthew Vaughn, Scene: (Takes place in cargo hold after Jacen bangs Chewbacca's girlfriend) Jacen Solo : You never looked better, man. [pats Chewy on the shoulder, Chewy grabs him by the throat] Han Solo: CHEWIE! Chewbacca: Don't mock me! Han Solo: Chewie, put him down immediately, please. Chewie! Have some Alderaan Dust (Star Wars version of cocaine). [Chewie lets him go] Jacen Solo: I wasn't.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 12:08 a.m. CST
dahveed1972, I hope you're wrong about Kasdan being over the hill
by one9deuce
Because if we get vintage Kasdan for the Sequel Trilogy, we are going to get the first great Star Wars film in 32 years. Lawrence Kasdan's contribution to the original Star Wars Trilogy cannot be over-emphasized. I've read the first draft screenplay for THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK by Leigh Brackett, it's terrible. Of all the totally great things in TESB, none of them are in the first draft. Not ONE thing. No Battle of Hoth, no Bounty Hunters or Boba Fett, no Han Solo in carbon freeze, and not one line of the dialogue from the finished film. Nothing. The worst part of her draft was that she didn't get ANY of the character's voices right. If George Lucas had shot it, we would still be shitting on it. It truly would have been awful. I've read Lawrence Kasdan's draft, and it's 90+% of the finished film. And he got EVERY character's voice right. Almost everything we know and love from the characters of the Original Star Wars Trilogy can be directly attributed to Lawrence Kasdan. Because I also read George Lucas' first draft of REVENGE OF THE JEDI, and it's not terrible but actually pretty good. It's about 60% of what the finished film ended up being. George is a pretty good writer for scenes, story, and ideas. Really good actually. But the changes Lawrence Kasdan made for the final draft are all really great changes. He streamlined it really well, moved certain things around, took some things out, made the space battle much MUCH better, moved the confrontation of Luke, Vader, and The Emperor to Death Star II and improved it immeasurably, and on and on. But the single most important thing he improved were the character's voices. Almost all the memorable exchanges and iconic lines are from Kasdan's final draft. That's just not what George is good at. So if Lawrence Kasdan can do what he did before with George's ideas, then we got ourselves another great Star Wars movie. It's too bad that Kasdan didn't accept George's offer to write the final drafts of the Prequel Trilogy, they would have been great. As it is they come off a lot like the first drafts of STAR WARS and THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. And EXACTLY like the first draft of REVENGE OF THE JEDI, a script with a lot of great ideas, scenes, characters, etc... but really needing a polish to structure it better and REALLY needing improvement on the character's dialogue and interaction. It's no coincidence that the two best films in the Star Wars Saga are STAR WARS and THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. They are the ones that went through the most writing changes from first draft to shooting script. George put a lot of time and effort into getting the screenplays right back then because he HAD to.
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Cuarón > Arnofsky > Blomkamp > ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... > Vaughn
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I haven't seen Fincher officially turn it down. Kathleen Kennedy worked with him on Benjamin Button. He worked @ ILM on Return of the Jedi, claims Empire Strikes Back as the best Star Wars film, and is on record claiming he became a filmmaker to direct a Star Wars movie. Did the studio interference of Alien 3 turn him off forever? Se7en Fight Club Zodiac Social Network The Game Girl with the Dragon Tatoo Curious Case of Benjamin Button Those all slant a bit dark drama with varying degrees. I could see the ESB-esque middle chapter being great in his hands.
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LMFAO
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Nov. 28, 2012, 12:26 a.m. CST
get Brian Henson, he helped create FARSCAPE. he's a damn good director.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Matthew Vaughan's films are stiff, stagey and feel like TV. I just don't understand the love for this guy. The only films he's been associated with that had a real depth lasting impact were the ones he produced for Guy Ritchie. Maybe Layer Cake. Both Vaughn and Simon Kinberg are ultra-rich upper class dudes from rich families. Both have had some of the best pulp properties in history entrusted to them only to turn them into shallow product, where audiences mistook style and flash for good storytelling. The results don't measure up to the high caliber projects that Hollywood is throwing at them. I've seen X-Men First Class, there are scenes in that movie that are SO stiff and Dawson's Creek. I don't watch those movies and think "Wow, here's a guy who understands the language of the human soul" It's more like "here's a guy who grew up with money, big money, and so maybe his movies are reflecting that isolation and sterility"
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Nov. 28, 2012, 12:27 a.m. CST
Star Wars 7 is the best thing to happen to the internet since the prequels.
by Mr. Voodoo Potato Head
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Nov. 28, 2012, 12:29 a.m. CST
why don't they just get fucking GUY RITCHIE??
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
granted the Sherlock Holmes movies were awful, but at least with him you have a director with a filmic identity like, there is a big sloppy endearing British HEART in his movies. I can't say that for Vaughn.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 12:39 a.m. CST
It's going to be either a massive success or a monumental failure
by Pipple
Good luck to vaughn if he truly is going to take the star wars challenge. And God willing, John Williams is able to churn out one last masterpiece to send off star wars the way it deserves.
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As is Michael Bay. And Peter Jackson "Any SW fan with the balls to not only drop a safe project like Xmen close to production, and take on the expectations of SW fanboys, and bang Claidia Schiffer anyway he wants to whenever he wants to is not to be messed with." -Quarantine X-Men is only a safe project because Donner, Singer, Ratner and 20th Century Fox went haywire with it. None of the directors stuck to the source material. None.
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Is a great choice. He's got a slick style, with tight editing. He knows character and has a good photography and a colorful palette. Anyone other than Lucas directing a SW film is going to be a hired gun. Not saying Vaughn IS a gun-for-hire director (he's not, he has a voice). But Disney/Lucas is looking for a Hired Gun, and if Vaughn wants to be that man, so be it. I'd rather a young and enthusiastic director who has energy they can bring to the table/ideas they can attempt to negotiate come in and take over than some full-time jobber who is just looking to follow orders and get a paycheck.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 12:57 a.m. CST
Let's be honest - most everyone bitching on these forums believes they could have directed a better prequel series than Lucas. So I say hire me, because I'm available.
by Mephisto the Great
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Matthew Vaughn's a great choice. Kick-Ass and Stardust are vibrant, fun movies with interesting performances where big-ego actors (DeNiro, Cage) do hammy support to some great new talent...Chloe Moretz, that McLovin guy, Aaron 'I Married My Cougar Agent' Johnson, Charlie Cox...and probably the first really great villain part for Mark Strong as Secundus. An actor of rare, Athony Hopkins-esque power, he is also the kung fu fighting Chicago mobster hell dad in Kick-Ass, a movie that was super cutesy-edgy-gross. I think he will show that he 'gets' Star Wars the way he obviously gets: casting talent, e.g. all the above, with Fassbender (another great talent working with this guy, he seems to be able to pull them...imagine who would not want to be in Star Wars? ); having a light tone; being on a roll; the James Bond movie that he dropped into that X Men sequel, that was like...wow.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 1:11 a.m. CST
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Nov. 28, 2012, 1:22 a.m. CST
He's proven that he can put out a big film like First Class in relatively little time.
by Chuck_Chuckwalla
And that's what Disney REALLY cares about.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 1:28 a.m. CST
Nah, he's too old. They'll probably get Justin Bieber
by Chuck_Chuckwalla
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has said he'd like to be in a starwars film and while Americans won't have seen him, he is a truly fantastic actor highly regarded. Certainly a better casting choice than Jake Lloyd or Hayden Christenson . My main concern though is the script. After the 3 piles of shite that were the prequel scripts I hope they get those right.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 1:44 a.m. CST
If this is true, thank the risen Christ. He will do a fantastic job, mark my words!
by Ali Kerim Bey
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If only cause Disney know that they have to get the first one right (which is gonna sell no matter what level of quality) if only so the fanboys keep comoing back for the rest. Like any franchise or most TV shows as long as the first couple are good the rest can be shit it wont matter as people still keep coming back. So yeah for the 1st of the sequels I am hopefull.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 1:56 a.m. CST
I would prefer Andrew Stanton. I am an unabashed Mathew Vaughn fan, but Star Wars is SO MUCH BIGGER in scope than what he's done.
by AntonStark
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Nov. 28, 2012, 1:57 a.m. CST
I wouldn't mind seeing what Matthew Vaughn could do with Star Wars
by lv_426
I really liked X-Men: First Class. I'd put it equal with X2. I'd also say that First Class basically felt like an X-Men film in the Star Wars mold. Magneto pretty much becomes Darth Vader at the end (gives into the bad guy archetype, plus the Vader-like helmet and a freaking cape). I can see Vaughn's style working out well for the Star Wars universe. Either way, I'm more excited about the recent little blip of news concerning Ridley Scott's adaptation of The Forever War. http://www.slashfilm.com/all-you-need-is-kill-screenwriter-keeps-ridley-scotts-the-forever-war-adaptation-alive/ Now that would be something if The Forever War actually gets made with Scott at the helm. Especially if it means we get new epic science fiction from Sir Ridley, and not more Prometheus or a Blade Runner II. I mean, Harrison Ford is gonna be busy with Star Wars Episode VII anyways, so let's see The Forever War instead of a Blade Runner sequel.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 1:58 a.m. CST
I love Joss Whedon, but Avengers is NOT EVEN CLOSE to the scope of a Star Wars film. The leap from tv to Avengers was far smaller than from X Men to Star Wars.
by AntonStark
And while I enjoyed the HELL out of Avengers, it's not a net better movie than ANY of the Star Wars films.
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and actually give us the story that was hinted in the OT. The rise and fall of the goodman Anakin Skywalker and his turn to the darkside which was ment to be sympathetic and TRAGIC (hence the term tragic hero) and his great friendship with Obi-wan, his mentor and friend. The Clone Wars actually as the a sort of Galaxy wide 1st world war to the OT's 2nd WW which even Luke on an out of way desert planet has heard off. Actually have the Jedi to be guardians of peace and justice rather than just uncaring idiots in bathrobes who seem to have NO PROBLEM with slavery! Have Mrs Vader be a strong willed woman kinda like Leia rather than a battered house wife whose dumb response to her boyfriends child killing confession "to be angry is to be human" is shocking even now. In short no Qui-gon (unesscary and contradictory charachter). No 9yr old kids (again unesscary) No child killing, or love of fascism when 19yr old (this is ment to be the good man who was your father who was destroyed!) An actual friendship shown rather than just talked about as an after thought. Decent chemistry and believeble reasons for falling in love. Actual location shooting rather than just CGI and having everything look like a video game. An actual war that has consequences and which the audience can care about rather than a clones and droids which no one can. Finally no Jar Jar.
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Every site posting every stupid little piece of bullshit that comes across their radar, all of which is going to be further amplified by social networking, ugh.
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Just off the phone with my fave director & he's buzzing about this Star Wars thing, saying it's his dream gig. I told him to go for it. https://twitter.com/mrmarkmillar/status/263617736985432064 The only hint I'll give is that we've known each other 5 years and he sneaked onto the Dagobah set at Elstree when he was 8 years old. https://twitter.com/mrmarkmillar/status/263619083281522688 Vaughn's dream has been to direct MH (Mark Hamill) since he was 8. https://twitter.com/mrmarkmillar/status/271713269654376448
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that Vaughan wasn't directing Star Wars - due to the fact they were fast tracking "The Secret Service", Mark Millars spy comic, as there were quite a few similar spy-type films in development - he's such a fucking liar.
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Could do a hell of a lot worse the Vaughn. This is good news
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A more gifted director (qua director) than anyone else who's helmed a Star Wars film so far.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 2:46 a.m. CST
If Vaughan leaves the pretentiousness of Kick Ass behind him, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt
by Hardboiled Wonderland
I just fucking hate Kick Ass. The final two-thirds, anyway. And that's probably Jane Goldman's writing. As she's kept the hell away from SW, and Vaughan works with writers he isn't married to, then I'll wait and see and give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 2:50 a.m. CST
Vaughan's best films are Layer Cake and Stardust if there no budget restrictions and interference he might do a good job
by Torben
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Nov. 28, 2012, 2:50 a.m. CST
As long as a 10-year-old Twi'lek jedi apprentice doesn't say "cunt"
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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It Vaughn is picked chances are he won't actually do it. He's quit more movies than he's made.
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and Mark Strong. But that's no bad thing.
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I'm not saying I won't abandon ship at some point, just saying there's a new hope. Ummm, sorry.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 3:43 a.m. CST
robstar said it, his movies feel too rushed, not enough to satisfy.
by higgledyhiggles
They`re enjoyable but made of meringue, nothing but air. Dunno who else would work and I`m pretty tired of Star Wars so why not give him it. Won`t affect me anyways.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 3:50 a.m. CST
I'd far rather watch a Star Wars directed by the guy that did Stardust, than a Star Wars directed by the guy that did the last Mission Impossible movie.
by loafroaster
Just sayin'.
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totally agree
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Nov. 28, 2012, 4:03 a.m. CST
Kick-Ass wa "Ok", didnb't like XMFC at all....and will the cast be Pedo-Bear Approved?
by conspiracy
I know..cheap shot. As others have said...the bar is pretty fuckin low these days...so long as the script is solid, and he doesn't invite the it can't be as overall disappointing as 1-3.
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What the deal with the goddam everything-have-to-be-trilogies? Wouldnt it make more sense to do single movies set in the Star Wars universe with different directors/writers for each story?
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slightly mystified by the hate its getting here.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 4:26 a.m. CST
Starring Robert Vaughn and featuring music by Stevie Ray Vaughan?
by tonagan
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Great news! Vaughan has already worked with a lot of talent that you could see fitting into Star Wars. Someone get Fassbender on the phone. And while you're at it call Nic Cage - come on - imagine that fucker in full body suit as a Chewie type alien character he would rock that shit.
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Disney plans to release several movies with "certain chracters" getting their own films. Who knows what that could be. Something like a Bounty Hunters movie, or a Rogue Squadron Movie for example. They want to build the Starwars movie-verse like Marvel did the Avengers movie-verse. Making several movies that culminate into one big extravaganza. When Kathleen Kennedy was quoted as saying she wants to release several Starwars movies a year, I don't think she was misquoted or kidding. Personally, I don't see how that's possible, but the truth may lie someone in the middle.
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Here's why... http://starwarsherewegoagain.blogspot.ie/2012/11/the-64000-questionwho-will-direct.html?m=1
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Nov. 28, 2012, 5:06 a.m. CST
I'm Ok with this. If he's got passion for the project it will be great.
by rakesh patel
He has a good back catalogue of stuff. to some extent this project is a bit of a poisoned chalice. you have lucas on one side who will see this as his baby and will be an awkeard fucker to please and work around / with, The most fervent fanboys of any franchise ever. And Disney which have paid a shit load of money for this franchise and need this to work. I just hope he is surrounding himself with a rock solid team that can can hits for his, run interference and let him do his shit.
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When the hell was this announced?
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Six star wars movies spread over twenty five years and to be honest only Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back were worthy of praise. Jedi was the 1st step toward fail with teddy bears & muppets. the prequels are just utter shit. Star Wars had its day a long time ago in a galaxy far away & is now just propped up by aging fan boys. Being under 30 means my interest in galactic epicness lay in the hands of Peter Jackson and the Halo movie...that'll be my Star Wars.
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prick.
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I could not agree more. When the first draft of Empire made its way online, it was clear that Brackett was way off on the characterization and just saw it as a pulp SF film and wrote is as such. Or perhaps those were the instructions given to her... Who knows. Whatever the case, it was clearly a first draft and contained none of the charm and character beats that we saw on screen. For example, there are several instances where Brackett writes that Vader makes a sinister laugh. But Vader is not Cobra Commander, he never laughs. But that is not to say he does not have a fucked up sense of humour: 'Apology accepted Captian Neda' and 'The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am.' Are great examples of that character being funny without using a sinister laugh or being laughed at. I'm pretty sure no one around Vader thought he was funny. Only Vader and the audience 'get' his sly wit, his underlings were too worried about peeing their breeches in fear. I'm pretty sure those little character gems were from Kasdan and not Lucas or Brackett.
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when I read that it said that Matthew McMonaughey might be directing. Now it's official. That that's the only way I'd pay to see any more of this horseshit.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 6:23 a.m. CST
no no no, you got it all wrong. it's VINCE vaughan who's directing.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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Nov. 28, 2012, 6:26 a.m. CST
Purists should rejoice. Vaughn tries to recapture the original source material via costumes and direction style
by Quarantine
The direction and look of Stardust is very different than Kick-Ass and Xmen. He kept the costumes in kick-ass and the visual style very close to the comics. Same goes for X-men. He returned them to the yellow and blue. There's no reason to think he won't employ more miniatures, makeup/costuming to try and recapture some of the details and textures of the original trilogy. Xmen had a lot of prosthetic work on it. But at the same time, he's used CG effectively where necessary.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 6:30 a.m. CST
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hobbit-world-premiere-wellington-stars-fans-rave-reviews-394992
by justmyluck
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Is how all the die-hard Wars-nuts are going to react when every single one of their novels, comics and other expanded universe media set after the original trilogy gets automatically shitcanned once this new movie comes out.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 6:37 a.m. CST
I just hope he doesn't accidentally get Carrie Fisher pregnant.
by Rufus_T_Firefly
This time, Vaughn, WRAP THAT RASCAL!
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Nov. 28, 2012, 6:40 a.m. CST
Aaron Taylor-Johnson for whatever Luke Skywalker equivalent please
by thefreshestthing
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Nov. 28, 2012, 6:41 a.m. CST
TWO COMMENTS: 1) THANK GOODNESS CARRIE FISHER HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH MENOPAUSE. 2) I GUESS THIS MEANS THAT ADMIRAL FASSBENDER/THRAWN IS GOING TO HAVE A HUGE DONG
by Darth Busey
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Nov. 28, 2012, 6:44 a.m. CST
AND IF MILLAR IS SAYING THAT VAUGHN'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT DIRECTING MARK HAMILL AS HIS "DREAM", GUESS THAT CONFIRMS THAT HAMILL AT LEAST IS ON BOARD.
by Darth Busey
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What a fucking mistake to put that racist hack on star wars VII. I guess Jar Jar is safe.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 7:05 a.m. CST
The same Mark Millar who said Caveziel was a lock for Superman?
by OutsideChance
Um, yeah. He's a credible source.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 7:06 a.m. CST
Would like to see a Brit direct it who ever it may be. They just get the job done right.
by paul cook
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Mostly based on Stardust. X-Men First Class was also much better than it had any right to be.
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Now that was a BIG SNOOZE fest. Sexy dancing that you don't see translates to fantasy action that is hollow and frankly forgetable... People deservedly rag on Sky Keptain but give Sucker Punch a pass because of the pop music and sexay girlies. On the other hand, Watchmen was pretty good, although I wasn't familiar with source material.
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seriously, the best movie of the year
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I think Vaughn will be pretty solid. At least Bret Ratner isn't in the mix. Jesus, can you imagine? I'd rather see Uwe Boll's vision of Star Wars.
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I think most people hated it. Personally, I thought some of the fantasy concepts were interesting, but mostly it just felt like watching someone else play a video game.
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Looks like Scott's Forever War adaptation has a writer. This book deserves a decent movie. I hope this does not disappoint (I'll ignore Prometheus for now). http://www.geekzenith.com/2012/11/27/ridley-scotts-forever-war-adaptation-lands-writer/
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Nov. 28, 2012, 7:27 a.m. CST
Video clip of Vaughn talking about Star Wars and the importance of character in blockbusters
by Quarantine
I couldn't agree with this more. If you don't care about the characters you're merely observing. Check out this video on YouTube: http://youtu.be/2vaIxCtomNg
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I'm hating myself for starting to get interested in this. Along with the ability to bring back a much needed sense of fun, Vaughn also seems to be clued up to classic storytelling requirements in the Joseph Campbell sense. Check out the commentary for Kick-Ass if you want to know what I mean.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 7:30 a.m. CST
i like how they picking directors for the sequels before they even start the first movie
by dioxholsters_scion
it just goes to show you how much of a gangrape this is. hollywood was hungrily salivating at star wars for decades that they can't wait to put their cock in it now that they are out of their leash.
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this is not a classy way to treat a classic.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 7:39 a.m. CST
Dioxholsters: not sure I've seen you EVER be happy about anything that didn't occur back in the late 70s or 1980s
by Quarantine
We all love nostalgia but you need to throw on Spirngsteen's Glory Days and have an intervention with whomever has made you such a cynical, depressed Debbie downer. How do you know Vaughn hasn't signed on for all 3!?
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Pray to the internet gods that the Fassbender will have a prominent role in this trilogy...For the love of all that is holy in geekdom let it be...That is all...
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Trying to reassemble the fragments of the Empire.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 7:48 a.m. CST
One of the things this movie needs is a very memorable villain along the lines of Vader
by SithMenace
The other thing it needs is the huge amount of heart that A New Hope had.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 7:49 a.m. CST
What's the big deal? Even if they turn out horribly, fans will just treat them as if they don't count - just as they do with the prequels and just as people did with Terminator Salvation
by wcolbert
Especially salvation. In my book...doesn't even count as a legitimate part of the universe. Not when you have some music video director making shit up as he goes along that was NOT part of Cameron's vision.
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You're basing this off an actor's reaction? No, this isn't happening. He's doing Secret Service.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 7:52 a.m. CST
Hopefully the last 15 years will be remembered as the era that Star Wars was in a rut
by SithMenace
Before it became relevant again.
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I mean I didn't hate Kick-Ass I just thought it was ok, he definitely made improvements on it over the comic. But it never got above ok to me. Now Layer Cake and First Class were excellent. So I think he could do a solid job, but who wouldn't want to see a Stars Wars film by Neil Blomkamp?
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Nov. 28, 2012, 7:56 a.m. CST
Imagine a new Star Wars movie opening weeks away generating huge critical buzz
by SithMenace
It's possible we may be 2 1/2 years from getting the high quality SW film we've been waiting for since ROTJ.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 7:57 a.m. CST
Vaughn is mediocre, i hope he doesnt do anything but crap like xmen
by dioxholsters_scion
People's expectations seemed to have lowered drastically from 1999 as to what makes a great star wars movie. The prequels werent that bad, decent enough to match similar offerings by other filmmakers and if they were made today by different people other than lucas people wouldve liked them. They liked avengers, and that was like watching a fish flopping on a boat. They just came at a time when people had very high expectations. I'm sure disney releases will be no different quality wise, I don't see how their approach is any indication of focus on delivering a quality product. Lucas's only mistake was to be obliviously enamored with the CGI process rather than the story. If they were serious, they would take their time, not plan for dozens of trilogys before they even get their foot in the door and maybe hire someone who can give a new interpretation to the story, someone like nolan or ang lee.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 7:58 a.m. CST
but every half-decent director knows this is a trainwreck
by dioxholsters_scion
you don't want to be the captain of the titanic, and we all know how disney likes to pin blame.
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Search back a couple of weeks ago and he was very specific about it.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 8:02 a.m. CST
If youre talking about -classic storytelling in the Joseph Campbell sense- as it relates to KICK ASS, then really you aren't the right guy to direct KICK ASS.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
He neutered the fuck out of that story. This guys movies are full of shit.
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We have questions about it," Hamill (speaking for himself and Star Wars costar Carrie Fischer) told us last night at the Hollywood premiere of his new flick Sushi Girl. "And really, they're not even at the stage where they're able to answer those questions because, as far as I know, is there a story yet?
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Nov. 28, 2012, 8:06 a.m. CST
I hope he brings Lenny Kravitz's daughter into this and has her flying around with fucking rainbow colored dragonfly wings and shit
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
I've seen more realistic teen drama in Freddy Prinze Jr. movies.
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...by all love First Class gets. Kickass was pretty damn cool w a weak ending. Thats all I've seen of his work...
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The warehouse scene IS fantastic. But the rest is wholly overrated.
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Feels like 97 all over again.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 8:14 a.m. CST
Besides, Jason Flemyng looks completely coked up and out of it here
by D.Vader
He's rambling like a madman.
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That movie built an entire alternate universe, tying mutants to the Cuban missile crisis in a believable way, while giving Xavier and Magneto pitch-perfect backstories. It was gorgeously filmed, acted at a level that's almost absurd for a superhero film, and was a fucking pleasure to watch. Vaughn is perfect for Star Wars.
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its a movie
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Nov. 28, 2012, 8:34 a.m. CST
The guy that said the last thing we need is a violent star wars: I thought war was hell. I thought war was about war. I learned that war was about meesa sella toysa.
by UltraTron
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George Lucas hands over the reigns to a new generation. Just as fans have been bitching about, and = They Still Bitch Laurence Kasdan is given the reigns, meaning movies more in the mold of Empire Strikes Back. Just as fans have been bitching about, and = They Still Bitch A top rated screenwriter is drafted to do the screenplay. Just as fans have been bitching about, and = They Still Bitch Now a proven director is helming the project. Just as fans have been bitching about, and = They Still Bitch You know, I get more mature talkback in the SWTOR /gChat on Station.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 8:37 a.m. CST
Or maybe it was offscreen but still disturbing and horrible.
by UltraTron
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Nov. 28, 2012, 8:38 a.m. CST
Just film a sequence like saving private Ryan at the beginning of the next one and show us a star war.
by UltraTron
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Understand that I do believe that it was over hyped, particularly in these hallowed halls, but I do not think it is overrated. I was highly entertained, but having only seen it once I will gladly revisit.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 8:40 a.m. CST
Kickass: kicks ass. The big daddy warehouse is still better than anything batman does in every batman movie put together. So yeah. This guy can do it.
by UltraTron
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Nov. 28, 2012, 8:40 a.m. CST
IGN top 25 comic book movies of all time has 2 Vaughn movies in it
by Quarantine
He has one in the top 5 and another in the top 15. This list predates Avengers and Dark Knight Rises. http://ca.ign.com/articles/2011/10/25/igns-top-25-comic-book-movies?page=1
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Nov. 28, 2012, 8:42 a.m. CST
The hero moment in kickass when he defends the random idiot is moving and stirring. More so than hero moments in xmen.
by UltraTron
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Nov. 28, 2012, 8:45 a.m. CST
I am your only hope in this matter if you want it perfect.
by UltraTron
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Nov. 28, 2012, 8:47 a.m. CST
Sigh. My voice will be lost in the crowd. I will not direct this. We will all suffer for it.
by UltraTron
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http://geektyrant.com/storage/page-images/Kick%20Ass%202%20Comic%208.jpeg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1287696453054 I think he did an amazing job recreating the tone and look of that. Kickass felt like an independent movie that was personal and without a ton of studio involvement. It didn't scream Hollywood. I thought people around here liked those kinds of projects...
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dont mistake parodies for real movies.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 9:01 a.m. CST
Can we get Michael Fassbender and Daniel Craig in roles if Vaughn is really directing?
by Fawst
When I saw James Bond doing his stress test with the oxygen mask on in Skyfall, my instant thought was "Craig looks like half a Sith in that thing." And Fassbender brings it every single time out. I don't want SWVII to be filled with "names," but even the original had actors with clout.
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I can get with this. It's not an off the wall or particularly cool choice, but it probably won't cause a disaster. And we all knew it was gonna be something like this. Really the only thing that makes me apprehensive about Vaughn is that his VFX and CG have been kinda cheap-looking. But with ILM and Disney throwing tons of money and manpower at it, I don't think that'll be much problem.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 9:07 a.m. CST
Any actor can be micheal Fassbender. Just shoot em in the face,balls or rip their head off.
by UltraTron
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Nov. 28, 2012, 9:08 a.m. CST
The studio expected Xmen: First Class to be delivered in 2 months which was almost unheard of
by Quarantine
From an interview with JJ: "I think it was unrealistic for them to think they were going to make such a huge movie in whatever we had — two months or something. So of course we went over (schedule). I think I have a couple more days to shoot… We’re almost done. The fact we’ve had to push the wrap date but they haven’t moved the release date is really interesting to me. I guess they must know what they’re doing. I have a lot of faith in Matthew as a director and an editor; I think his movies are great. And I think they’ve been cutting as we’ve been going. We should be fine.” The fact that Xmen: First Class was as good as it was given the challenges bode swell for Star Wars, IMO. He has one of the hottest writers in showbusiness on his writing team in Michael Ardnt. He has the original writer of Raiders, empire and Jedi on his writing team. He has a guy who wrote Mr and Mrs Smith while in film school and who's producing Blomkamp's latest. He'll have all of ILM behind him. He'll have the biggest budget he's ever had. This could have been much, much, much worse.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 9:09 a.m. CST
I wonder if James Gunn's SUPER was partly him trying to poke fun at Vaughn's KICK-ASS
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Because that movie was full of shit. I have yet to see a movie of his made after Layer Cake that felt like it was populated with real flesh and blood people. A lot has to do with his staging and bland cinematography. They feel like TV. They are staged like TV. Someone said it above. His movies are fun, but they are lean. Stardust?? Fucking Stardust?? When it came out people were saying it was the next Princess Bride. Now I READ Stardust the novel. I read Kick-Ass. Who the fuck even talks about these movies now? If his oeuvre hadn't been brought up in relation to STAR WARS, I mean. You people really think that people are still going to be creaming their shorts over the AVENGERS in two years? Kick-Ass the comic was brutal and wonderful and unexpected and funny. To me, it was the comic book equivalent to seeing Pulp Fiction for the first time. Fanboys are so full of shit. You just parrot each other. Lindelof, Nolan, Abrams, all fucking day long. We've got the screenwriter for a talking toy cartoon and the director who took a big basic cable dump on the X-Men. Of course people are bitching. Standards are hilariously low since the era of REAL fantasy epics the likes of STAR WARS. And there were many, many of those classic films before the hype started to fist itself in the ass with a giant computer animated Hulk hand.
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Star Wars is Lucas's thing. I don't much see the point in handing it over to a generic fanboy director. But so long as you guys are happy I guess.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 9:10 a.m. CST
Kickass was a great movie. I guess it just has some milky toast in it with those little gweebs.
by UltraTron
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I think Vaughn is an excellent choice.
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Seems like only 1 in every 50 geeks doesn't hail it as pure magical genius. Second, aside from the portrayals of Xavier, Magneto, Shaw, & Moira, we got CRAP acting. I'm talking every young mutant, including Lawrence, &, of course, January friggin' Jones. Of course the CRAP writing of dialogue didn't help. I'll give you guys the Xavier/Magneto relationship & just about everything Magneto does in general, but that's about it. It was 10,000 times better than the X3 shit-fest of course, but MAN does XMFC mostly just get on my nerves.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 9:11 a.m. CST
Here's a good gweeb barometer for ya. If you think Joseph Gordon Levitt could ever be batman in any universe you are a super gweeb.
by UltraTron
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It could be worse, they could've signed George Lucas to direct this thing... And then the Star Wars new trilogy would really suck... i.e. His latest attempt at this was Star Wars 1 - 3!!!! When you see Vader asking for Padme... It had me saying... "Good god... Someone pull the plug on this cheese ball!!!!" Worse is when you see episode 3 then watch episode 4 right behind it.. Darth Vader goes from retarded costumed idiot that makes it hard to believe he'll kill anyone to I'm going to kill everyone here bad-ass believable.. That's when you see how Lucas lost it completely in the last two decades by immersing himself in damn cheap marketing ploys to milk the toy money to kingdom come instead of trying to make a good storyline make sense with the original 3 movies..
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Nov. 28, 2012, 9:15 a.m. CST
most people say- darrrr.. Duh yeah but ya got like a bunch a dem sperm liike milyuns an stuff: short cut to not processing the enormity of what's happening
by UltraTron
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Nov. 28, 2012, 9:16 a.m. CST
Deliberate? An accident? You can bet nobody is talking it one way or the other.
by UltraTron
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Nov. 28, 2012, 9:23 a.m. CST
Fassbender is fine but pretty forgettable. I don't get why everybody cums over him
by Stephen
His best show was in Basterds where he was playing a british superdouche. Hm.
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Fucking hell, I have nightmares of him being chosen. His Potter films are so boring, pedestrian and lifeless compared with Cuaron's, Mike Newell's and even Chris Columbus'. Cuaron would be an amazing choice for a Star Wars film, though a (presumably) darker Episode VIII would be better for him. One thing I feel is just as important is GETTING THESE FUCKERS BACK IN THE UK. I'm sure Vaughen, being British, would be up for this (whether he would have much say in the matter...?). They should setup a permanent Star Wars base in the UK. Vaughen's comments about CGI being overused show that he at least has his head screwed on enough not to do another AOTC or ROTS-style CGI clusterfuck if he truly does take the reins. TPM had the right level of effects work. The pod race was an outstanding mix of practical, models, real location plates, digital plates and characters etc. It's just a shame that the story and dialogue were fucking atrocious... Those things are being taken firmly in hand this time around, thank fuck.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 9:25 a.m. CST
Fuck IGN. If you think THE DARK KNIGHT and THE AVENGERS are among the best comic to screen adaptations then you don't know the first thing about comic books.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Step one, remove all elements of camp, fun, or whimsy, so that fanboys don't have a hard time swallowing the story. Step two, make it dark, REAL dark. Step three. Big fuckin CGI bug monsters giant bat nano powered cocksuckin corpse lickers. Step four. Get Heath Ledger or Nic Cage to get in there and act all twitchy and shit. Step four. Dress it up in some Scorsese-esque indie pretentions. Then set up twitters and facebook pages for people to discuss, fawn, or bitch over. Your best bet is to have some sound byte, some easily copied opinion like 'JAR JAR SUCKS' or 'DAMON LINDELOF IS A HACK' so that these people can multiply like larvae, excreting the same nattering opinions back into the nutrient pile, and THAT is how you will have a successful motion picture- and tee shirts that will be prized for at least the next several months.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 9:25 a.m. CST
Sasquatch... Who the fuck talks about any movies 2 years later any more? We live in an ADD-fueled, Twitter-era of reboots
by Quarantine
There have been some great movies the past 12 years but few people talk about them because, well, people are always onto the next thing. I said this the last time you and I got into it but you are romanticizing a time before the internet when all we had was word of mouth. I'll admit... those were great times to learn about music, movies, books, because you could simply enjoy something and not be inundated with cynicism and people shitting all over whatever it is you liked about said band, movie or book. Back then, your dad or your older brother or your friend's dad or older brother were your gateway into cool shit. They were the ones telling you about Star Wars or Heavy Metal or John Carpenter movies. And we loved then not just because they were a blast but because we were younger and less critical. We watched or listened to stuff we liked and we just reveled in it. We lived in glorious bubbles of ignorance back then. We'd buy the magazines that hyped up the stuff we'd like and that would make us more hyped. We'd talk to our friends about what we'd like and they'd say the same things. That all died when the internet came out. The moment somebody realized that they had the power to spoil, shit on, or dissect a movie in order to ruin it for others was the day this all died. If the internet had been invented 10 years before Star Wars I can guarantee you people would be more critical of it as a piece. Can you imagine how outraged people would have been after learning Vader was Luke's father back then? People would have moaned about it as cheap, or said it contradicts what Obi wan said and it would have become that generation's "Noooooo" moment. It doesn't matter what it is these days. You could love an album that some of your favorite critics have said is the album of the year, and you'll find hundreds more online who say it's crap and try to rip it apart. This is why everything seems disposable and temporary. It's because joy from any one creation has been rendered temporary until a youtube video comes along bashing it, or you visit a talkback and read the comments. And you are one of those people. That's you. You have lost your optimism. You have lost your ability to see the good in things. You now enjoy tearing things down to build yourself up. Now, take your talkback, and strike me down with all your journey to the stereotypical, cynical, "Everything sucks nowadays" journey towards the darkside of depression will be complete.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 9:33 a.m. CST
Mark Hamill is in The Secret Service comic as himself
by Righteous Brother
so if the film stays true to the comic book, and Vaughn is directing Secret Service - he'll get to direct Hamill, if Hamill's up for it.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 9:37 a.m. CST
Sasquatch: Kick Ass and Stardust DID have elements of camp, fun or whimsy...
by Quarantine
It sounds like you didn't like what Nolan brought to the Batman franchise if I'm interpreting your criticisms correctly. That's fine. I can understand how some prefer a lighter tone but if you prefer a lighter tone then I don't see how you can simultaneously slam the gritty seriousness of Dark Night while also slamming the camp, fun, and whimsy of Vaughn's other works. Stardust, especially, seems to have the exact same kind of qualities you're talking about. And few movies that have been made since have had that same "feel." Yes, it wasn't Princess Bride-quality. But does that mean it wasn't worth anybody's time? I don't think so. I'm so sick of this if it's not a 8.5 out of 10 or above it's absolute shit mentality. It's like the reviews on IMDB. It's either 9 or 10 out of 10 or it's 0 out of 10. There's no longer a "I enjoyed this and it's good" but it's not the greatest thing I've ever seen middle ground with people. We had and enjoyed all sorts of 7 out of 10 films back in the late 70s and 80s that were a ton of fun that have a lot of replay value. If you ONLY wait until the critical consensus is that something is an absolute classic before you watch it you'll be missing a lot of fun, original, and inspiring works in life.
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first off, x men first class was not a good movie... it was a mixed bag of poop. all types of different poop... although there were some non poop scenes with fassbender. but cmon... it was all over the place. and i hate that their "powers" are shoe horned into everything... so dumb- like, hey! he's using his powers! shouldn't be like that. i mean wtf... banshee looked stupid flying around lik that... and angel- why the fuck is she in an x men movie? she looked dumb. havok... stupid hula hoop powers. i mean wtf. joe johnston sucks. he dropped the ball on Captain america... i feel like he released that movie when the marvel guys were looking the other way. it had some bright spots and evans was good, but way off. and lastly... i read above that someone thought kick ass was better than watchmen? fuck off. kick ass was a flimsy piece of shit. fucking hipsters.
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Can't they use real numbers?? I mean, we're not in Ancient Rome anymore. It's been so long since I had to do school math...what is the V and the I's...? I can't wait til Disney hits Episode 30 and is forced to call it Star Wars XXX.
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When you're equating Heath Ledger to Nic Cage, you need to take a step back and realize you've lost touch with reality.
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I was a little blazed and in a really good mood when I saw that shit. Plus my expectations were like zero. so obviously I loved it.
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We've got a talented, up-and-coming director who absolutely loves Star Wars, and CGI has finally come of age (if you doubt me, watch Life of Pi). The storyline will come from Lucas, and the script will be written by Kasdan. And after years of saying that he would never appear in another Star Wars film, Harrison Ford now says that he wants to do it. And Han Solo will have the befitting death that he maybe should have had in ROTJ. Mark my words: these new films will be amazing.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 10:26 a.m. CST
Can't Blame AICN For Milking Dodgy Star Wars Rumors
by Lesbianna_Winterlude
They know how old you people are.
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Altho I'm starting to get into the 'ok, whatever...wake me when there's a trailer' camp as well. But there's no question my curiosity and anticipation for this are higher than any other project in development right now (outside of DC's JLA rumblings). If Vaugn sticks to his Layer Cake and Kick Ass style roots, then I think this could be very very good. If he goes with the more goofy aspects of Xmen:FC, then this will be good and goofy but still eons better than the prequels. Lucas really has set the bar rather low for this franchise currently...only hype can screw that up at this point. And no, not yet another hate-filled Lucas rant...the man is without question a visionary and brilliant storyteller but he should never be behind a camera nor on set again. Either by his own bad character directing work or those sycophantically stunted in his presence, the man should stick with what he does best, telling fantastical fictional stories, and let others bring his stories to life.
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I'm pretty sure I read a reaction to Vaughn that called bullshit.
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The guy is an actor answering the question of whether or not he would take a role in a potential Star Wars film. That's no confirmation-- at all.
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I'm sure open mic night is coming up at the Chuckle Hut. It'll go over well there, I'm sure.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 10:33 a.m. CST
@quarantine Film criticism is ALL ABOUT trying to find movies with some kind of lasting cultural impact. It's the opposite of fanboy OMG NOLAN IS GOD bullshit.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
I went off topic and was talking about comic films in that post you mentioned. First Class, to be SURE, was campy, and that was something I dug about it. It was definitely refreshing seeing audiences wholeheartedly embrace something retro and campy like that.... Although, I'm sure people bought tickets because of the marquee value of an X-Film in general and not the advance word on the mod 60's stuff. I rented it, and somehow had no idea about the James Bond/ submarine/ Kevin Bacon-ness of it. Just didn't read the reviews I guess. Other than seeing it being raved over by Harry and others. The thing about camp is... It needs to be played in a certain way. There is good camp, where it's sort of outrageous and caricatured, like BATMAN or DICK TRACY, and then there is camp that's like... night-time soap camp. True Blood. Or Twilight. And I'm sorry, but for me, First Class falls into the bad camp (of camp). Tiny soap opera actors playing at being X-Teens. I wanted to kill that goddamn kid playing Havoc. I wouldn't be so hard on Vaughn, if he hadn't, in my mind, ROYALLY fucked up things I already loved in print, namely Stardust, and Kick-Ass. And his movies really just lack heft and dimension for me. It's like he hasn't earned it... Like he got his bankroll from producing Guy Ritchie movies (Guy Ritchie movies are the opposite of Vaughn movies, in terms of grit and Soul and humor) & being from a wealthy & connected English family. I definitely admire some of his ideas and his enthusiasm on display... But I do not get the sense of diesel fume and palpable human GUSTO from his projects... Not like I do from the movies I love, or even just like. Sterile, wooden films are offensive to me. Even fun, popcorn ones. I'm not cynical towards movies. Not by a long shot. I'm cynical towards Big Gulp empty blockbuster cinema. I'm cynical towards Redbox-and-forget-it action. I'm so uncynical that I don't give a fuck who shot first, Greedo or Han, and I LIKE Jar Jar Binks... because when I go to the movies I submit to the story, I follow the map the director lays out for me (if he's any good), and I try to suspend disbelief like any little kid would... all expectation and wonderment. I'm sure there were people annoyed with C3-P0 back then like everyone is with JarJar now, but the opinion didn't have the internet to give it traction. And you can BET there were people pissed about the Luke I am your father stuff... my sci-fi loving Dad and uncle bitching around the dinner table, just like you mention. But there wasn't the chance for either in depth analysis or internet douchebagging back then If anything, the internet extends the conversation, and yeah, sometimes it feeds on itself, grinding out lame-ass memes and slogans and horseshit you can put a saddle on and ride. I appreciate the chance for conversation. Ideas and nuances that wouldn't have occurred to me happen, because of the apples falling from various brains on here. But yeah. You watch the hype, and the fat basement nerd cynicism that happens on here, and it can get exhausting. I like tons of movies. Mostly old ones these days. But... Watchmen, and Chronicle, Blade 2, Prometheus.... some modern horror.... Tim Burton's Alice.... I like the Golden Compass, City of Ember.... It's fuckin tough, though. I still love real sets and rubber goddamn Muppets like nobody's business, and so times are tough for guys like me these days. I really miss cartoons. A LOT.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 10:37 a.m. CST
I was kind of hoping for someone from Pixar. They have an eye for detail that can't be matched
by kidicarus
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I'll give you Jones. She was campy at best. Lawrence, on the other hand, is a force of nature. That kid only has a handful of films under her belt, and is about to get her second Oscar nomination. Between her and Moretz, who nailed Let Me in and Hugo, Vaughn has shown a keen eye for casting unknown actresses in key roles. I think that bodes extremely well for a SW trilogy that might lean more heavily on female characters than it has in the past.
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Is he... Is he really gonna play it like that?
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Nov. 28, 2012, 10:43 a.m. CST
Jabba makes a new Star Wars rumor talkback for advertising hits
by animas
what a worm.
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Is he... Is he really gonna play it like that?
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Nov. 28, 2012, 10:46 a.m. CST
edit2 MOTHERFUCK. how are we supposed to write without quotes??
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
I wasn't equating them, I was talking about eccentric twitchy actors in comic films. -Get the weird guy. As in -This movie needs more Mickey Rourke. In no way was I trying to compare Ledger's acting, which was brilliant, to Nicholas Cage doing an Adam West impersonation. -Is he... Is he really gonna play it like that? -I mean, is somebody gonna say something? -Better just, uh.... Better just let him roll with it, I guess.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 10:50 a.m. CST
I really dislike people who have a different opinion than mine.
by kindofabigdeal
That is all. No, that is not all. I love the idea of Sam Rockwell playing a scoundrel character. He would be a perfect fit. Not a Han Solo knockoff but an original smuggler. Or perhaps just a plucky Republic pilot. That Hunger Games chick is pretty decent but I don't see myself losing my shit over her. I'd much rather see Summer Glau playing a badass jedi chick or something. The possibilities are endless. I think it was cobra kai who gets most original idea. Nic Cage in a wookie (or something similar) suit doing his batshit craziness in some alien language. Bring back the fun into our Star Wars.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 10:55 a.m. CST
I was in internet rehab during Kick Ass so I didnt see fanboy reaction
by Stephen
but if what people are saying here is a good cross-section, a lot of people loved it and a lot of people loved the book and felt the movie ruined it. Now I know what its like to love a book that gets ruined by a movie. Watchmen: perfect example. Everyone I ever talk to who liked the movie hadnt read the book first and they didnt understand the soul-suckingly awesome gut wrenching mundane reality that was the book. Its why I try not to comment on the V for Vendetta or From Hell adaptations, because in those two cases I saw the film first, so my opinion isnt really valid. However, having read Kick Ass the book and then seen the movie I couldnt be happier. I thought the film surpassed the book in every way. Vaughn and Goldman cared about the characters in a way that Mark Millar just didn't. Every change they made made the story superior to the original. They made it enticing and relatable instead of Millar's original story which felt like an bored stab at shock value and an entry in the most pathetic character contest.
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The Watchmen movie was a huge disappointment on so many levels.
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What color is the sky on your planet?
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I fell for it once for Prometheus, going from "that's a stupid idea" to "meh" to "wow, that looks interesting" to "wow, people are actually using their brains on that project" to "wow I really look forward to this" to "WTF are they doing, petting the vagina dentis snake?"
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Nov. 28, 2012, 11:13 a.m. CST
More confirmation that Disney is going the Marvel route with Starwars.
by ganymede3010
Their scripts could turn into official 'Episodes' in the main Skywalker storyline, or they could form the basis for spinoffs focusing on side characters. Disney CEO Robert Iger said the goal is to release a Star Wars movie 'every two to three years,' and some could easily focus on other pieces of the expansive mythos (similar to Marvel’s Avengers universe). Disney and Lucasfilm declined comment.
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You've convinced me that you're not just one of those elitist types who's taking out all of their failed ambition in the arts on other people's works and that you still do genuinely enjoy work that's not just universally acclaimed. It's pretty easy to say that the best of the best movies of each year are solid. It's harder to go out on a limb and state that you loved something a little rougher around the edges with some flaws like say... Cabin in the Woods or Drag me to Hell (Which I both think are new classics in their own ways). I've said this before and I'll say it again. Nostalgia takes time. I look back at Total Recall and I love Michael Ironside's hammy performance in it. He ate up the screen in that and came off like a complete asshole. Same goes for Miguel Ferrer in Robocop. I felt like Kevin Bacon's performance in Xmen First Class was along those lines. And as far as Stardust is concerned I liked Ricky Gervais as the guy who can get you anything and thought Robert Deniro's flamboyant pirate was a little reminiscent of some of the stuff in Princes Bride. Nothing is as good as Princess Bride at being Princess Bride. That script is great by a legendary writer and the actors all embraced the tone of it. Stardust may not have reached the same heights but it certainly came closer than many other light comedic fantasies have since Princess Bride. Anybody who's a fan of any book that's adapted is primed for disappointment. In many ways, a virgin audience member unfamiliar with the story that's a fan of it in film form should serve as a testament that the film was a success. Few filmmakers can ever compete with our own imaginations when reading words on the page and even less movies have the time to get into the kinds of details and layers that are often present within a book. The best compliment I can pay Vaughn on Stardust is that I think there are only a handful of directors out there who may have done a better job of it and most wouldn't have wanted to touch it. Sound familiar? It's also why I'm happy he's involved here. There are others who could do Star Wars better but most don't seem to want it bad enough to take the risks. They either have other big projects, or simply don't want to deal with all the grief that comes from Star Wars fans. All things considered, I'm very pleased with this choice.
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Their scripts could turn into official 'Episodes' in the main Skywalker storyline, or they could form the basis for spinoffs focusing on side characters. Disney CEO Robert Iger said the goal is to release a Star Wars movie 'every two to three years,' and some could easily focus on other pieces of the expansive mythos (similar to Marvel’s Avengers universe). Disney and Lucasfilm declined comment.
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/post-george-lucas-star-wars-394910
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If I were making the Sequels, I would be extremely wary. The act of reviving beloved, decades-old franchises from the 1980's is fraught with peril. Despite thier flaws, I loved the Prequels, and liked Indy 4 and Prometheus—a lot. But if you didn't like them, I wouldn't get my hopes up about new SW.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 11:22 a.m. CST
The Sequels are going to be amazing, though, if you keep your mind open. To pdb you listen.
by P. David
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Nov. 28, 2012, 11:26 a.m. CST
A summary of why it's okay to be happy: Kershner (Empire) and Marquand (Jedi) weren't better directors than Vaughn. And the writing team they've built is better than the original trilogy because it has Kasdan AND new blood.
by Quarantine
People seem to be acting like Empire and Jedi were directed by Martin Scorsese or David Lean (Legends of film). They weren't. Vaughn's already off to a better career path than either Kershner or Marquand and the writing team they've built (Pixar style) has Kasdan at the heart of it and two young writers (both Star Wars fans) (one with an Oscar) all working together as a unit. Without much effort these will be considerably more fun to watch again and agian than the prequels were, and the prequels were already "fun enough" for plenty of people.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 11:26 a.m. CST
Thanks larrycrownaffair I'll take that under advisement. It's good to not stand out or say anything of interest like you. Like how nobody noticed the '77 epic The Van starring Danny Devito because star wars stole it's thunder. Here is my review:
by UltraTron
This is about Bobby who smiles like a jackolantern always even when being tortured by co-workers. He has torrid sexual fantasies about any woman he sees as does his father. Why does he smile? He is buying a van he has saved for for many years. Bobby couldn't make it... til he went Fun Truckin'! says the tag-line. He tells his dad he isn't going to college and sets out in his new van for the aforementioned fun truckin on the poster. He proceeds to immediately smoke a joint in his new van. Then he attempts to molest a girl who wants to smoke a joint in the back of his van. She runs off and he immediately has sex with a prostitute and pays her pimp. Bobby smiles like a ginger jackolantern while doing most of these things and in between the sex and pot smoke he drag races other vans. Not for money but for nothing at all. There is a heavy who wants to drag race for a $100 windfall. Will Bobby race him?! I don't know I've only seen about 37 minutes of this masterpiece. Sweet cows of our ancestors this movie is a bucket of shit filled to the brim and flung out the highest window over your face. Why do I do this to myself?
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. . . a TAD bit overrated, but I still really like her. I felt that her performance in XMFC came across as really weak and she'd be in trouble had it been her first film.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 11:47 a.m. CST
So can this guy talk Daniel Craig into putting on Sith or Jedi robes?
by Nerdgasm
Because that would fucking rule.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 11:49 a.m. CST
those of you who actually liked John Carter really have to come to terms with the fact that that movie was bad. just plain bad.
by dahveed1972
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Nov. 28, 2012, 11:49 a.m. CST
you really need to start referring to it as a "guilty pleasure" in order to avoid mockery and derision. Lucky for Stanton, there will always be Pixar sequels for him to direct.
by dahveed1972
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Nov. 28, 2012, 11:54 a.m. CST
the biggest problem with Kickass was a forgettable lead and a miscast nic cage. still they got more right than wrong.
by dahveed1972
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Has anyone thought about the fact that these new movies won't be able the have the credit-less iconic STAR WARS openings since George was able to get around that by not being part of the guild? Correct me if I'm wrong about this but I think it will be weird having opening credits on these new films unless someone grows a brain and allows them to make an exception.
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I know he's been the protagonist in most things but with that pitbull face of his and his physical intensity he'd be a pretty great villain. He also seems more intelligent than most tough guys (Dolph exception)
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Obviously everyone wants something familiar. From what Ive read here no one is really keen on old luke and leia. What about this? What about old master jedi luke and leia telling old stories they have found from the jedi temple of master yoda during the old republic as a padawan and his master against Palpatines master (not sure who that is) A young Yoda in his prime? That opens up a whole world of old republic fans and traditional fans alike?
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I figured that they could use different directors if these movies were spread out 3 years apart like the prequels but aren't they only going to be 1 or 2 years apart? Wouldn't they have to film them back to back like LOTR & which would only allow 1 director, right?
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That was back in the day. Notice that about 95% of big budget blockbusters in recent years don't have opening credits. Or, hell, even a title til the end.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 12:24 p.m. CST
Just read that Vaughn snuck onto the Dagobah set when he was a kid and later went back while filming kickass to see all of the locations that were filmed in the area
by Quarantine
That's hardcore. He may even have more nostalgia attached to these movies than I do. It inspired him to drop out of college and move to LA to make movies which is also pretty cool.
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I'd rather give it someone who LOVES the property!
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... one of the only good roles he's picked in the last 10 years.
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I want a villain crew with Fassbender, William Dafoe, and Nicholas Cage. Is that too much to ask for? They can cast whoever they want for the good guys cause I dont give a shit about them.
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The man certainly didn’t need the money and had he wanted to he could have put the franchise into stasis for decades. Instead, he walked away and is giving an entirely new generation of directors, actors and writers and chance to dabble in a pretty amazing universe so let’s give the man a fucking break.
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bigdeal, yeah Nic Cage as a *man in suit* alien would rock so fucking hard. As for Daniel Craig as a Sith - I dont know if anyone remembers that fan-made trailer that was released before THE PHANTOM MENACE and fooled a few people into thinking it was genuine. They used footage of Daniel Craig from ELIZABETH where he is striding along in black robes - Daniel Craig sith make it so for real this time!
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We need a real actor to play the villain... wipe the salty mouth rape taste of *General Grievous* from our minds. Urrgh. Shudder.
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Look X-MEN First crap sucked ...but Layer Cake was the SHIT!! Personally it would have been better if Guy hadn't turned it down and let his producer buddy M.V. direct it, but it was still great. That being said IMO Joe Johnson should direct it, for all the obvious reasons.
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Was that Vaugn wanted the 'narrator' to die at the end whereas production and, I believe, test screenings wanted him to live. They filmed both endings I believe and the theatrical got what it got but it leads me to think Vaugn has a good deal of integrity when it comes to telling the story first and then making people happy with the specifics. If you're creative and have ever been in a position to want people you do not know to enjoy your creation (getting it published, etc, whatever it may be), then you know the difference between letting the creation guide you and letting desired fan reaction to said creation guide you. I've been there before...writing music that we thought certain label reps would like or that fans would like...and I promptly left. There's no artistic validation or satisfaction to be found there...only the empty pursuit of money. Which is perfectly fine of course...just not where the greatest works of human creativity will ever reside.
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....I wouldn't mind seeing an older Han split from Leia and back to his scoundrel ways. It can be established that they were together for a while, had kids, played house, yadda yadda yadda...but in the end he fell back into his pirate life style. Maybe he and Chewie and a few new fellow pirates can end up reuniting with the good guys to help save the galaxy again. Anyone with me on this? Ah well anyway -- As far as Vaugn goes............excellent choice.
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My wish list.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 1:21 p.m. CST
Of those rumored to still be in the running, Cuarón is still my first choice, Arnofsky is iffy but damn interesting, and Blomkamp, while still a little untested, could be amazing
by animatronicmojo
sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch has some spot-on points on why I say 'me' to Mr. Vaughn. I don't hate him, he's a competent director with imagination who rally loves fantasy/action/Star Wars. Given a super tight scripts, great actors, time and money, I reckon he could do alright with this- but, I'm sorry, I think they could, and should, do better. <BR> What it comes down to for me is this: movies over the last few years that have personally moved me and stayed with me include: Children of Men, Y Tu Mamá También; Requiem for a Dream, The Fountain, The Wrestler; District 9, etc.... whereas pics with Vaughn at the helm have not. <BR> Apples and Oranges, I know, but would I say that The Fountain was less flawed and more original/imaginative/beautiful than Stardust? No, I would not. Would I say that The Fountain was more entertaining than Stardust? Absolutely not, I can't even say that I was entertained by The Fountain. Nonetheless, there are some incredible scenes in The Fountain that I still think about today. All I can really remember about Stardust is that Deniro did drag and that I was vaguely annoyed by My So-Called Claire Danes. More so, it's just that that characters in his films do not seem like real people to me, whereas each of the films mentioned above delve deeply into what it means to be human. <BR> I really like the choice of Michael Arndt writing the screenplay. It shows that Disney is committed to making this a memorable film with heart and honest emotions, rather than more wooden acting and the nausea-inducing stalker-romance that Lucas came up with. Pair this script with a director who has a truly unique vision AND knows the human heart, and I think you will have an Ep. VII worth watching in 20 years.
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...and we will still complain about it.
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Of the three and what I've seen, Fincher gets the best PERFORMANCES from the actors themselves. Bird has got the "feel-good" ending while being intellectually stimulating down. Good camera placement and since of space. Vaughn is, IMHO, the weakest link of the three. I haven't personally connected with anything he's done to the point where it resonates like Fight Club, Se7en, even Social Network and The Game. Incredibles and Iron Giant are classics. Layer Cake, Stardust, Kick-Ass, X-Men First Class... I never revisited them after one viewing while the other films listed I've watched several times each.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST
Vaughn isn't a great filmmaker, but he's a good one, and that's good enough for me.
by Randy
Honestly, the chance of getting Fincher or someone like that is a fucking dream that we all to wake up from. Vaughn has been a consistent director since day 1, he understands budgets, has some visual flair isn't a half bad writer. Hell, what he did with First Class in the short time he had to make it was impressive, and he would have a lot more to work with from with Disney. His camerawork is good, he usually gets good performances and I have actually watched all of his movies at least 5 times each. So fine choice by me.
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Stardust is probably the film most like Star Wars in tone and storyline we have had for years. Just take the story and substitute the fantasy setting for a sci-fi one. You have the farm boy who has to grow up and become a hero. You have the memorable villain, who actually is scary for the kids, and a serious threat to the heroes. You got the love story which is antagonistic throughout the course of the film, but you know they will end up together. You have the comic relief side characters who stop the mood from getting too dark(who aren't in it enough to get annoying). Give Vaughan a great script and he can make a great Star Wars movie.
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those are the reason Incredibles, Iron Giant, Fight Club, Se7en, Social Network, and The Game stand up over time with me. And the reasons why the SW Prequels do not.
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Nice.
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they might as well have given it to Ron Howard. This is bland news--but anyone is better than Lucas. I'm still excited.
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If you don't think Fassbender is a fantastic actor I'd be interested to know if you can name a performance by one of his peers to equal those two by him.
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I wish Spielberg would do it, though.
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...should direct a Star Wars film based on the lives of pioneer moisture farmers on Tatooine.
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I shall keep them in mind and perhaps see them if convenient. thx
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Nov. 28, 2012, 2:18 p.m. CST
wait I just looked up Shame and how the hell was Steve McQueen alive to direct this movie in 2011?
by Stephen
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Nov. 28, 2012, 2:23 p.m. CST
Many of the directors people love for dramas or art films simply don't love Star Wars. The reason the films they made were good is because they loved the material they were working with.
by Quarantine
In order for this to work I think it has to be a passion project first and foremost from somebody that's willing to give close to decade of his life to this. It's likely the director will be back on the sequels. That's what Marvel tries to do most of the time. Once you've narrowed down who legitimately loves and understands Star Wars, and who considers this a dream opportunity, you pick the guy with the best talent for story, acting, visual FX, action scenes, casting, etc. It's easy for any of us to expect that Fincher, or Gondry, or Spielberg, or Lee, or Whedon, or Bird, or Scorcese, etc would all drop whatever it is they previously had planned for the next 3-9 years in order to do this but it's just not the case. Each of these guys knows what fans on here are like. They know they're never happy with anything. They know that it would mean delaying other projects more personal and artistic to them. Reality check. With all of the above considered we're lucky to get Vaughn rather than Ratner, or McG, or Michael Bay. To put things in perspective: McG's 3 movies: This Means War - 26% Terminator Salvation - 33% We are Marshall - 49% Ratner: Tower Heist - 69% Rush Hour 3 - 19% XMen the last stand - 57% Bay: Transformers Dark Side - 36% Transformers Revenge - 21% Transformers - 57% Verbinski: Rango: 88% Pirates at world's end: 45% Pirates Dead man's: 54% Vaughn: Xmen: First class - 87% Kickass - 76% Stardust - 76% Layer Cake: 81% We could have had a lot worse.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 2:52 p.m. CST
Wow, X-Men: First Class is 87% "fresh"? Maybe I saw a different movie.
by hank henshaw
I mean, it wasn't terrible, but it wasn't that great either. It was tolerable, more or less like every other X-Men movie before it.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 3:11 p.m. CST
I won't even pretend to want the same thing as everyone else or what we're getting...
by Henry Fool
I want an R rated 'Star Wars' with lightsaber dismemberment and nude Sith women who use the force to do very naughty things. We've deified the childlike aspects of this series for long enough. It's time to grow up and bring on a Star Wars fit for the pages of Heavy Metal magazine!!! (or at least just embrace our juvenile tendencies at their most depraved)<br /> <br /> That said, Matthew Vaughn is a great choice. 'Stardust', in particular, had a spirit of adventure that was very much in line with the feel of 'A New Hope'. At the same time, we also know he can do great darker fair like 'Layer Cake'. '1st Class' proved he can helm a big, sucessful popcorn picture. And 'Kick Ass' just kicked ass.<br /> <br /> Vaughn is as good as any of these proposed directors for this. I'll be happy if this gets a formal announcement. With Bryan Singer returning to X-Men, everything feels like it's falling into place. Now if they can just get Hugh Jackman to appear in 'Future Past'. I loved his cameo with McAvoy and Fassbender in '1st Class' and would love to see more of those three together.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 3:46 p.m. CST
You guys act like it's rocket science! Let's make it easy: take pretty much any film ever made, add some left or right wipe cuts and voila! It's STAR WARS!...
by REMcycle
...it's not like any of them were masterpieces of direction. From that standpoint they're all just plain-jane, forgettable films. What makes STAR WARS stand out is the production design, the editing, the effect design, the sound design, etc...STAR WARS films are 95% pre and post production, 4% on screen talent and 1% helm. So cut Vaughn some slack...Uwe Boll could make this fucking movie with the right team behind him.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 3:51 p.m. CST
Any bets on how long after Vaughn is officially announced it takes before he suddenly up and quits?
by Stegman84
Still, if he hangs in there I think he's a solid choice. Personally I'm just thankful it's not Joe Fucking Johnston, or for that matter Rob Cohen, Stephen Sommers, McG, Brett Ratner, Peter Berg, or any other Modern Masters of Mediocrity who usually get first dibs on popcorn cinema these days, to predictably awful results.
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No offense, but you must not be in the industry. I could easily list 100 instances of great direction in the Original Trilogy off the top of my head. And if we sat and watched them together I could point out 1000. I'll just start with a really obvious one, Han Solo saying I know in response to Princess Leia saying I love you. That was not in the shooting script, I've read it. That was Irvin Kershner being adamant that they try many many variations of I love you too and then collectively they came up with what we have in the finished film. All on set. All because Kershner pushed and pushed to get it right. THAT is great direction. And that goes hand in hand with the incredible work he did with the three leads in TESB. I think all three of them did nice work in all three films, but their performances in TESB are their best. And that's because of their director doing some outstanding work directing his actors.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 4:25 p.m. CST
The reason Xmen: First Class was an accomplishment is because it should have sucked. Teen versions of the Xmen? Xavier before he was old, wise and in the chair? Magneto as a good guy?
by Quarantine
On paper, it sounds destined to fail and fail horribly, especially after the disaster that was Xmen 3. Xmen 3 was an absolute mess and any movie with Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, Patrick Stewart as Xavier and Ian McKellan as Magneto should never even come close to as bad as that was. It's the same reason why Thor was a pleasant surprise. On paper, the premise of Thor and the idea of Thor sounded horrible but Brannaugh basically did the impossible and made that movie work. Vaughn was the same here. First class should have been the kind of thing that was a 10% type of movie based on the premise. What fanboys want to follow a bunch of unknown tweens? But Vaughn made it work and if he can make that work then I'm confident he can make a Ardnt/Kasdan/Kinsberg collab work on his favorite franchise of all time.
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that could be a great movie title
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Empire is simply rich with great examples of, to me, some of the highest caliber film making. Not only the utterly superb scene you mention (where, right after, Chewie roars out in pain and fear for his friends life - gives me chills/goosebumps even decades later). Yoda's speech to Luke about the force. Ford's reaction before, during, and after the initial torture scenes (prior to carbonite). The last few minutes on the Falcon with Leia, Lando, Chewie, after pulling Luke off the bottom of Cloud City...his brief mental conversation with Vader, etc... Mon Mothma's speech at Hoth in the beginning. Leia and Solo's "fight" at Hoth. Vader's reactions to a unexpectedly 'capable' Luke Skywalker. A couple great jump scares (saber fight between Luke/Vader)... I could go on and on and on...(and I have little idea/knowledge about actual film direction) I sometimes wonder at the mentality that speaks of such work as being pedestrian or 'by the numbers' All due respect to the 'eye of the beholder' notion, if you see a film like Empire and think it's a by the numbers, pedestrian bore with only great set designs and beautiful matte paintings, then I honestly have to wonder why you are on this movie geek website? Not that you don't like movies on the whole of course but it occurs to me that you don't like these types of movies. As only someone uninterested in the genre or overall context of the film would be ambivalent in a film within that genre, yes? I don't like country music but I can recognize the talent of some of the musicians involved. This is a similar conceit...except people don't usually go to country sites to celebrate music they don't actually like. I don't know...maybe it truly is just opinion and simply nothing more...
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Nov. 28, 2012, 5:15 p.m. CST
But who will play Luke & Leia's deformed incest kid? I hope Vaughn has what it takes to cast this thing right.
by Avon
But he's a Brit and they make good directors so I am hopeful.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 5:28 p.m. CST
It doesn't matter who they get to direct - The fanboy establishment will make excuses for all...
by TopHat
"Positivity" is the slogan for the fanboy collective, today. So, it doesn't matter who they get to direct, write, produce, etc. The fanboy bloggers will give everything a positive spin, like good little studio hacks. -Personal note: I've never understood the love for Vaughn, either. He's always been one of those film makers explicitably embraced by the geek bloggers. Really thought they'd be more daring this time around; the screenwriters for MR. & MRS. SMITH and LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE, and the director of KICK-ASS and X-MEN: FIRST CLASS, really isn't inspiring.
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Let me educate the idiot masses. This rage over MV is misplaced and unearned. He's made some quality films- X:FC, Kick-Ass, two of the best comic book films ever made... Stardust is fun... Kershner, Director of ESB- the single best geek/nerd movie ever made. Made only ONE good movie his entire career and Kersh did nothing of importance BEFORE or AFTER. His post Empire career was complete shit actually... Whatever magic he wove on Episode 5 was a one time thing as he followed his work with the single worst Bond movie ever made- Never Say Never Again. It made Bond, bloated, repetitive and dullsville. Robocop 2- THE worst sequel of the 90's or any decade. Terrible all the way around; it's not even a good-bad movie, just dire as it flopped at the box-office. His final Directing gig was an episode of FUCKING "Sea Quest!" Ugh. And NO WAY am I bashing or dismissing him, just saying how it is. If Vaughn can do half as good as Kersh did, then how blessed will us Star Wars fans be... So this horseshit rage against Vaughn is all kinds of stupid. Right? Exactly... No thanks needed.
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Let me punch their stupid face.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 6:09 p.m. CST
And Vaughn needs to be commended for saving the X-Men franchise...
by Dan
Considering the dire results of X-men 3 and it was a remake of any kind, the kid did good and deserves to hear his praises.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 6:17 p.m. CST
BOTH COMICBOOKMOVIE AND IGN POSTED THIS WAY BEFORE AICN
by PRESIDENT BALTAR
FACT.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 7:16 p.m. CST
First Class only seems better because it followed two turds. It's good, but not that good.
by Gary Makin
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That shit is expensive, are you footing the bill?
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so give it to him, he'll refuse of course, but the gesture counts in the long run.
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Matthew Vaughn is kind of perfect for this. I haven't been a fan of Star Wars for a long time now, due to many issues I have with Lucas and the prequels, but Vaughn I like. He's got a solid sense of style, pacing, and drama, and he doesn't take the easy path. He takes chances and knows how to work with actors. Plus he's well-versed in visual and practical effects. Great choice to direct the next Star Wars film. I might actually be interested now.
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Anything you watch post memento has been affected and inspired by nolan's vision, so saying fuck nolan is equvilant of saying fuck every film in this new millennium. hes the king of film or father of film, the same way elvis was the king of rock and jackson the king of pop.
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let ang lee do it, if he could bring himself to do gay porn then this might not be so degrading to him
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Nov. 29, 2012, 12:13 a.m. CST
Fuck Vaughn. He stole Claudia from me and I will never forgive him for that.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Maybe still having a poster of Claudia on my bedroom wall is the reason why I'm like the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons. :(
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Nov. 29, 2012, 12:14 a.m. CST
@dioxholsters_scion, and Doug Liman changed action cinema with The Bourne Identity.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Is he a genius like Nolan?
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Nov. 29, 2012, 12:23 a.m. CST
there is more to a movie than an action sequence so no
by dioxholsters_scion
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Nov. 29, 2012, 7:52 a.m. CST
"Anything you watch post memento has been affected and inspired by nolan's vision" You're seeing things.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 29, 2012, 7:54 a.m. CST
Still looking forward to Lucas' next 5 minute film than the rest of Lucasless studio controlled Star Wars.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 29, 2012, 8:39 a.m. CST
If anyone could handle characters and special effects in a space-based drama, it would be Leonard Nimoy
by Crimson Dynamo
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First Class is the most overpraised, overrated genre film this side of TDK. You can throw Kick-Ass in that category as well. Vapid, style over substance, self aware, amateur, derivative hackjobs. Layer Cake was his only decent film. He would be one of the absolute WORST choices to direct the new Star Wars flick(s). All my enthusiasm for the ST would evaporate like a wet queef if this were confirmed. Might as well get Bay or The Rat to direct it if they're gonna go with that cunt. I truly hope this is another case of AICN jumping the gun and running with a completely unsubstantiated rumor/misinterpreted comment.
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Nov. 29, 2012, 2:19 p.m. CST
What a travesty this would be, especially coming after the announcement that motherfuckin KASDAN is back in the mix
by Tom Yorke
I'll say it again... we either need a new, unproven, up and comer (ala lucas in '77), with no "baggage", or someone "old school" like a Zemeckis. I know, i know... all of his recent stuff has been shit, but maybe if he's surrounded by a great cast and crew (as well as a good script), he could be inspired and give us all something pretty amazing.
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TIM FUCKIN' ROTH. That is all.
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Nov. 29, 2012, 3:50 p.m. CST
How would it be a travesty? You're living in a dreamworld if you think there are clearly better directors interested in taking this on over the next decade or so...
by Quarantine
This is Star Wars. People keep acting like its this hugely experimental film series with direction techniques that were revolutionary beyond visual FX. It isn't. Star Wars is wide vistas, close ups, and the occasional dolly shot. It's never been particularly "stylish" beyond set dressings. This is a franchise that features guys dressed in fur suits and others wearing rubber masks shooting laser pistols at one another. The original featured dialogue like, "Ahhh, I was going to go Toshi station to pick up some power converters!" Star Wars' power has always come from the mythology first, the likeable characters second, and the amazing visuals third. All this talk of adding artistic directors who've had perhaps a single movie under their belts, or older, huge name directors famous for drama is nothing more than a huge wankfest by everybody to show off their film knowledge. How could Lucasfilm trust a complete unknown with a project this big? Their student film? A sundance film? What guarantee would there be that they would be any better than Vaughn's first efforts? And what about older directors? Who knows if these older guys would even care? Would they even know what went wrong with the prequels? Would they even care? Would they approach it with the enthusiasm necessary to return it to its roots? Everybody's trying to out-snob one another by name-dropping artistic directors with tons of trademark style without having any idea if any of those names would even be remotely interested. Fincher? What makes people think he'd sign up the 10 years of his life on these? Nolan? He just completed his big trilogy and likely wants to do his own original works. Blomkamp is the only other guy beyond Vaughn of the younger generation I would trust at all with this and even then I'd be concerned with him bringing handycam style visuals to Star Wars. You need a director that loves the original movies for the same reasons geeks do and who has some visual style but not so much that he will force his trademark style all over the work and distract from the story. You need a director that values story first and foremost and who questions character motivation and wonders if there's enough risk in a scene. You need a director that can work with actors, and who's launched the careers of good actors in the past. You need a director that's displayed some competency with CG. Matthew Vaughn is all of these things and Stardust was arguably the closest thing in tone to Star Wars of the past 5 years beyond John Carter and Stardust was better received with less than a fifth of the budget of John Carter.
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Nov. 29, 2012, 4:02 p.m. CST
The reason I'm defending Vaughn, btw, is because he was at the top of my shortlist once this was announced
by Quarantine
I knew he made sense for what Star Wars needed and was aware that he was a huge fan. I'm a huge Star Wars fan so I specifically looked for directors that I thought could deliver what Star Wars needed. FIRST CHOICES Matthew Vaughn Neil Blomkamp Rian Johnson Duncan Jones Brad Bird SECOND CHOICES Andrew Stanton Jon Favreau WOULD HAVE BEEN WORRIED Gore Verbinski Rupert Sanders WOULD HAVE BEEN PISSED OFF Brett Ratner McG Michael Bay Simon West Stephen Sommers The fact that one of the guys on my first choice list is likely going to be it exite
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Vaughn displays none of the talent or vision that those 2 great directors do. Vaughn has produced nothing, and i mean absolutely NOTHING in terms of memorable characters, performances, cinematography, editing, etc. in any of his films post Layer Cake. The praise this guy gets is simply baffling to me. He has shown nothing in any of his films to lead me to believe that he would be anywhere near capable of pulling off a film as grand, mythology heavy, and operatic a film as Star Wars is. He's really just a fucking poor man's Guy Ritchie.
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Nov. 29, 2012, 4:33 p.m. CST
Just saw a recent pic of Mark Hamill. Jeez, how depressing. He looks like fucking Pat Hingle now.
by AzulTool
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Kubrick
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It would be bizarre but kinda awesome. Lol.
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Nov. 29, 2012, 9:32 p.m. CST
Actually I saw a recent interview with Hamill, he's lost a TON of weight
by ganymede3010
He did an interview with the Young Turks politicalk podcast. And he looks great compared to what he's looked like in recent years. It's obvious he's well ahead of the curve as far as getting in shape. He actually looks like a an older version Luke Skywalker. Not the old hobbit looking creature he's resembled in recent years.
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Nov. 30, 2012, 6:35 a.m. CST
The one director that would get me the most excited is P.T. Anderson
by SithMenace
Oscar caliber performances across the board.
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was at this stage in the game...whether MV gets the same results, (highly doubtful) is for us to wait and see....
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Grow him a beard and he'll be fine... remember, the car crash he suffered in 79, changed his face- the angles he had in ANH are gone. His face was rounded in ESB, the Wampa attack whether by design or fate, covered up most of the scars he recieved...and now that old age is catching up he'll not look that good...not as good as Harrison Ford in comparison, despite beign a decade or more older.
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Nov. 30, 2012, 11:12 a.m. CST
X-Men First Class was filled with embarrassing moments!
by Snake Foreskin
I think it was kinda poorly done, actually. I liked it a lot on first viewing, but since it's been on cable and I've seen it several more times in bits and pieces, I've started to pick it apart. There were a lot of missed opportunities and much of it was very poorly executed. Not as bad as X-Men: The Last Stand, but certainly not as good as many on here would have us believe. Matthew Vaughn is a so-so talent who has no real vision or special skills to bring Star Wars out of the creative gutter that Lucas left it in.
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Nov. 30, 2012, 12:06 p.m. CST
The scene where the "red guy" keeps teleporting and killing guards was amazing in Xmen: FC
by Quarantine
I don't know the character's name but the moment where the guard comes in and Sebastian looks at the red guy and he just morphs right behind him and slits his throat was amazing. That entire assault from Shaw was completely bad ass and then featured a dark, character-driven moment when Shaw tries to soften up and recruit the mutants to his cause. I think Vaughn's style has been underrated. Kick Ass's corridor scene with Hitgirl was pitch perfect. Every shot was great there and editing brilliantly. It was very tense with some awesome death shots normally only seen in Asian cinema. I can also think of a ton of great moments throughout Stardust. I think he's improving as a director and if Xmen: FC felt a little rushed at times it's because it was. Vaughn goes for the tone of the source material and in Xmen he let his villains ham it up which rubbed some fans the wrong way who prefer the Dark Knight approach to realisim.
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I guess this seals Lucas' fate as a transformative, yet failed semi-auteur. Roger Roger.
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Nov. 30, 2012, 3:32 p.m. CST
Hamil gets a forever pass no matter how chubby he gets...
by Darth Macchio
And not just for Luke...but for JOKER! Seriously, his voiceover work for the animated Batman epis (plus DC online) is perfect to me. I was shocked when I first heard it was him as I just couldn't picture that voice coming out of Luke Skywalker. But sure enough, that's him. Practically perfect voiceover work for the character...Hamil gets a lifelong pass for anything he wants to do from this moviegeek...
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Nov. 30, 2012, 3:45 p.m. CST
Quarantine...it was Azazel (red teleporting dude in XM:FC)
by Darth Macchio
And I agree...especially the last bit where he's dangling the one guy back and forth with his tail wrapped around his throat and the soundtrack matches it beat for beat until the guy's fellow g-man shoots him dead. But that scene is nothing compared to the Night Crawler scene in the first 10 minutes of Xmen2. And I don't get the Bacon hate...lots of people hated his Sebastian Shaw but I felt like it was one of the strong points of that movie. That facility attack when he collects all that energy and then stomps and sends it up and around that foyer balcony...all the while watching it circle around him with an almost serene look on his face works perfectly for me. But then, a mere few minutes earlier, it's freakin dance party usa and the hippy hippy shake... XM:FC has genuinely superb moments coupled with some rather cringe inducing corny moments but no outwardly bad moments in my opinion. Same for Kickass...altho on a much smaller scale...basically, the jetpack. ugh. but otherwise, an excellent movie (also well done with the soundtrack beats matching the movie - even his use of the bits from '28 days later' worked perfectly to me). Vaughn is, to me and from what I've seen of his work thus far, a mostly hits with occasional misses director...this means we're likely to get what we expect...something great but not remotely great as anything in the original trilogy, better than all 3 prequels, possibly rising to RotJ status minus. In fact, RotJ is very similar in this 'hit and miss' context like XM:FC and kickass. some simply superb scenes in Jedi, some of the best in the OT (throne room confrontation in particular) but yet it has a tarzan yodelling chewbacca and an sneak attack of teddy bears (no, that's a bit harsh, the ewoks aren't that bad, just a bit corny) now, that said, i do think xm:fc missed more than it hit whereas jedi definitely hit more than it missed but either way, these movies simply have to be better than the prequels and that's more than good enough for me.
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Don't put words in my mouth.
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The keep michael mans slightly flawed and underrated classic gabriel byrne, ian mackellan, jurgen prochnow and nazis getting their just desserts, its a bit of a mess but the Tangerine Dream soundtrack adds to a mesmerising film Id love to see a proper directors cut, sadly you cant even buy it on DVD, ill be recording this to replace my ex-rental vhs copy!
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But I still like the first third or so. One of the best establishing sequences since Aguirre.
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Read the book if you haven't. F. Paul Wilson (first book in his adversary series). Great stuff. And I'm a huge fan of the movie and have whined more than once on here that we not only haven't gotten a dvd (you can find rare imports - bootlegs off a laserdisc i believe) nor even the soundtrack (which i did get as an import) and, of course, with Mann disowning the film, there's likely (and sadly) never going to be a hi-def version. yes the movie is flawed as cut but still something i've been a fan of since i first saw it. i heard there was a longer version, much cut, etc, etc...but its never going to happen. hell, i'd be happy with the full version of dune on blu-ray at this point... or even a letterbox anamorphic of the gate...
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Well it's in HD on TV now. I don't know if it's just scaled up though.
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There are transcripts in the book on the making of ESB of what was coming out of everyone's lav mics they must have been connected to the entire time on set. Or someone was following everyone around writing it all down, because that is some FASCINATING stuff from a directorial pov. The 'I know' wasn't actually improvised on set, there's a lot of Ford following Kersh around, meeting with him in his trailer and pounding and pounding on that scene trying to figure out how to make it better and honest... meanwhile, Kersh has to put out a fire with Fisher who is PISSED that she wasn't let in on the whole thing and that Ford seems to be getting all the attention and side convo about the scenes. Billy D. is also a bit annoyed, if I remember correctly. But you can see how Kershner is at once diplomat, court jester, and driving creative force behind it all. The way he tries to figure out exactly how to shoot that scene and talks about the coverage and eyelines and flipping the image, etc. is nearly baffling, yet it shows an amazing amount of thought going into every decision that he made. I have no doubt that the same went into ANH, with just WAY less emphasis on commiserating with the actors to find the truth or the best way to do a scene. Ditto for Jedi. It makes obvious that Empire was different... special... a crazy man and a bunch of creatives were let loose with the keys to the kingdom to do as they please in coming up with something different and better while 'Dad' stayed away and they made one of the greatest movies of all time. ESB is magical and phantasmagoric.
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I've read the book. Very telling stuff. Kersh was (and I hope still is) such a communicator.
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Dec. 2, 2012, 2:05 p.m. CST
Kersh died a while ago BTW. Also which making of TESB are you talking about?
by orcus
There was the recent one, and then there was the paperback that came out around 1980
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- Holy Crossover!! Magneto’s Boy Quicksilver To Speed About In Whedon’s AVENGERS 2 And Singer’s X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST?? -- 318 total posts 106 posts
- A review of Refn and Gosling's ONLY GOD FORGIVES, direct from Cannes!! -- 108 total posts 89 posts
- Green-Band and Red-Band trailers for the new Jason Sudeikis & Jennifer Aniston VACATION ripoff, WE'RE THE MILLERS are here!! -- 145 total posts 53 posts
- Tom Cruise Won’t Go Solo For MAN FROM UNCLE!! -- 49 total posts 49 posts
- The Friday Docback Revisits DOCTOR WHO Season 7!! A Fuller Review Of 'The Name of the Doctor,' And More!! -- 47 total posts 47 posts
- Jon Stewart casts Gael Garcia Bernal for his directorial debut, ROSEWATER!! -- 43 total posts 41 posts
- Harry dives into STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS' spoilers to reveal the truth behind the blockbuster we're seeing! -- 1445 total posts 38 posts
- Ron Howard's latest trailer sure is a RUSH!!! -- 64 total posts 35 posts
- John Ary's Video Review Of THE HANGOVER PART III!! -- 32 total posts 32 posts