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Magneto And Professor X, Old And New, In X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST!!
The Kidd here...
I've been telling you that this was coming for quite some time now, with X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST operating as the next step in the FIRST CLASS branch of the X-Men Movie Universe, while also opening the door for X-MEN 4 and the relaunch of the present day mutants we came to know over Bryan Singer's first two films in the franchise and then that debacle of a third that Brett Ratner got saddled with (I know it's easy to blame the guy, but that picture was all set to be a mess before he ever signed on). Now it looks official that the X-MEN worlds will be collided with Singer taking to Twitter to confirm that not only would the key principles from FIRST CLASS be returning - James McAvoy, Jennifer Lawrence, Michael Fassbender and Nicholas Hoult - but our first iterations of Professor X and Magneto, Patrick Stewart and Sir Ian McKellen, would also be joining the cast this time around.
The DAYS OF FUTURE PAST comic arc deals with Kitty Pryde transfering her mind into a younger version of herself in the past, in order to key her and her fellow mutants in on a key moment in hysteria that will lead to anti-mutant feelings to reach new heights, where mutants are jailed in internment camps. That would act as a perfect way to bridge the two casts - does Ellen Page return to reprise her role as Kitty Pryde from THE LAST STAND? - while setting off a chain of events that could easily send the X-MEN timeline of the earlier three movies onto a new path, one in which THE LAST STAND happened but didn't really (kind of like Abrams' approach to STAR TREK).
I'll be interested to see what other dominos might not fall as far as the old X-MEN cast coming aboard DAYS OF FUTURE PAST, because Singer may be putting the band back together quite extensively to really expand the X-Men's presence on the big screen. We already saw Hugh Jackman and Rebecca Romjin last time out... who's next?
-Billy Donnelly
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Nov. 27, 2012, 1:49 p.m. CST
Ahh my first first, more satisfying than drunkenly losing your virginity to a fatty.
by Flames gotta Eat
And I like this news, mash-up/timeline craziness seems to be trendy now. Love me the direction new X-Men is going.
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Jesus Christ. Is Kidd the worst writer that's ever been featured on this site? Someone's going to say it's Harry, but I think this guy takes the cake.
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I don't think most people understood the Star Trek reboot timeline plot, but just went with the flow. Asking them to do it again might be pushing it.
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From your description it looks like Kitty will play a central role. I have nothing against Ellen Page, but wouldn't they go after someone a little more high profile?
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Nov. 27, 2012, 1:55 p.m. CST
Still wish the First Class story could have been an epic trilogy
by JCBaggee
First Class: the formation of the X-Men, hints of Erik Lehnsherr's dark side Sequel: the rise of Magneto. Paralysis of Xavier. Fall of the X-Men. Your 'Empire Strikes Back' 'All Hope Is Lost But We'll Try Anyways' downer ending Conclusion: Xavier secretly trains a team of All-New, All-Different X-Men and moves to stop Magneto.
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The majority of people are morons - they can't follow the plot of a south park episode - as long as they shell out money for geek movies who cares?
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Bring in Cable and Bishop and prevent the assassination of Senator Kelly.
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for the more classic lineup of Xmen (Cyclops, Jean, Beast etc) in the late 60's/70's rather than Singer's versions in the 00s?
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Nov. 27, 2012, 1:58 p.m. CST
It sounds interesting, hopefully this way they can somehow finally get the original team together
by DidntPullOutInTimeCop
And I never thought I'd say this, but Fassbender McAvoy were much better than their older versions. So will this be part of the shared Fox Marvel Universe that Millar is the consultant of?
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High profile - you mean like casting a talentless but well known actress as Black Widow - or Storm - or Jean Grey? As for high profile - people still love ellen page from juno - and she scared the crap out of people in Hard Candy or whatever Give me TALENT over profile - (Chris Evans, Hemsworth) and then they GET the profile from being talented or did you miss the entire star trek movie?
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Which original team are we talking folks? For days of future past to REALLY change the future it also has to mess with x-men united and bring 'normal' jean grey back to life.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 1:59 p.m. CST
PAGING HUGH JACKMAN. MR. HUGH JACKMAN TO THE WHITE COURTESY PHONE.
by Darth Busey
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Or thanks to Magneto crippling Xavier in the first First Class movie. Should have been saved for later.
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really agree, the Marvel movies alone have shown that the obvious high profile choice isn't always the best.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 2 p.m. CST
I LOOK FORWARD TO THEM MAKING CYCLOPS SUCK IN TWO UNIVERSES NOW!
by Darth Busey
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Nov. 27, 2012, 2 p.m. CST
I don't care about the continuity, it will be fun to see them again.
by tomandshell
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Nov. 27, 2012, 2:02 p.m. CST
IS THERE GOING TO BE A 60'S VERSION OF CYCLOPS, JEAN GRAY, AND ICEMAN NOW? MY HEAD HURTS.
by Darth Busey
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All we need is time travel. We don't need Kitty Pryde. If this is a sequel to FIRST CLASS, then we'll get the FIRST CLASS characters traveling to the future to see what damage has been done. If this is an X4, then we'll see future characters traveling back in time to stop the future from happening.
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Oh, this isn't about XXX-Men? Never mind...
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Nov. 27, 2012, 2:03 p.m. CST
Is Professor X going to look like a little lesbian in this one too?
by Autodidact
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I said original, but meant any of the classic x-men members in a group together. As long as it's not a gang of various versions of obscure Xavier school students that are there only for a cool power effect display and then killed off by the baddie of the day. When you think about it, the Singer movies really fucked it up. First class should've been a reboot.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 2:05 p.m. CST
Keep Cable and Bishop the fuck out of it. Cable is a fucking Rob Liefeld non-character. He has a metal arm and a star-shaped scar around his eye. That's his character.
by Autodidact
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Because there must have been an article somewhere in the past where he said something like, *I wonder if this film will tie into Singer's films?* Scooped! He's been telling us this news for months! I remember posting, shut up already Kidd, we're all tired of hearing about you're incredible X-Men scoops, give us a break! Another *win* for AICN.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 2:18 p.m. CST
will never EVER get over the gross mishandling of the PHOENIX
by the Green Gargantua
1000 deaths is not penance enough.
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Mystique is going to be the one to contact her younger self. Singer and Donner obviously think she's an interesting character. ...which is one of the reasons why I have no faith in this.
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Stop catering to retards. Then you'll force mindless to raise their standard of thought and perhaps inspire them to think a little more when watching. Critical thinking can do wonders in the real world too. Regardless, I'm quite curious to see how this entry turns out. I think Singer will give his best effort with this flick. As much a I want the property to go back to Marvel, I'm willing to see if they can fix the franchise with this flick.
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You can't miss out on the quality of fuckery that's at stake here.
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..and watch Rob Liefeld have conniptions all over again like he did the first time he found out that Peter David made one of his characters gay.
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...noooo, the joke probably writes itself.
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X-Men: Last Stand. Older Xavier (Stewart) is walking with Magneto in a flashback that clearly takes place after First Class. Except in FC, he gets crippled. Hoping for a semi-reboot. The X-Men had two good films, and a shit turd for a third. Let's hope Singer can literally rewrite their history, and fix things. So far he's two for two.
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... the soon to be released Wolverine movie will be the last remnant of the original, present day timeline (seeing as it's apparently set after Last Stand), if the timeline is somehow altered before Last Stand takes place? Or... will they take the time to show old Magneto getting his powers back, and old Prof X explaining to everyone that he's not dead and has a new body (high-five!), but still can't walk. Or something. Oh and here's younger me.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 2:31 p.m. CST
restore Cyclops's character dammit. Hated how he was handled in the films.
by DrPain
Please don't turn out to be another Wolverine show.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 2:33 p.m. CST
How about some Apocalypse? and some giant fucking battles?
by Joey Stars
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Nov. 27, 2012, 2:35 p.m. CST
atwenty7-- I completely agree. At least Harry seems to be bad on purpose, which is annoying-- but I will skip articles because the Kidd wrote them.
by chifforobe
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Nov. 27, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST
If they can continue to repair the damage left after the atrocious 3rd Film then I'm down.
by Wcwlkr
I've said it before and I'll say it again, in my mind First Class actually already rebooted the X-Men in a better light. Yes I loved X2 but let's be honest the 1st X-Men was ok at best, and we all know the 3rd was a train wreck. So if they wipe away those 3 for a new direction with these than I'm all for it.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 2:46 p.m. CST
I'd definitely prefer the more classic line-up as well. I mean I'd even take the original international line-up.
by Wcwlkr
That gave us Storm, Colossus, Night-Crawler, & Wolverine! Colossus needs to be done right!
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Nov. 27, 2012, 2:53 p.m. CST
BRING CYCLOPS BACK GODDAMMIT and don't focus so much on Wolverine.
by sonnyfern
I'm still 100% pissed that they fucked Cyclops over and over again in the first trilogy. There was no need to do that at all, he's a great character, with a GREAT power. I hope to God Singer just doesn't focus the entire movie on Wolverine AGAIN. It's called X-MEN. NOT Wolverine and the X-men.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 2:59 p.m. CST
Is this one of those things where the full-stop on your keyboard stopped working, but you went ahead and typed it up anyway?
by davidwebb
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Kesley Grammer as beast should be brought bacl, at least for a cameo. They could continue on with first class and present day x-men films after days. Will days be a two part film? Seems like lots of characters and story. The original comics of x-men didn't sell well at all and was cancelled. X-men became popular later on without the original lineup, just saying. Would really love to see them have the 90s cartoon theme in the movie redone with full orchestra
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x-men and fantastic four? that is all fox owns, but x-men is a pretty big universe
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Makes sense I think.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 3:14 p.m. CST
Still, wish they hadn't rushed to get canon in place by the end of FC.
by davidwebb
Surely there were plenty more stories they could tell while Xavier and Erik are finding mutants, building those wonderful toys, etc. Seemed like a bit of a mad rush to get the backstories, the Brotherhood, Cerebro and Xavier's paralysis jammed in there. It doesn't annoy me that they included them all, far from it. It just comes across that they didn't have much confidence that they might get another crack at it, ie. the film flops and they don't get to work on a sequel. Anyone with a more informed idea about this?
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Nov. 27, 2012, 3:15 p.m. CST
Thanks to the avengers everybody will be buddying up in these stoopid superhero movies!
by cameron
Next we'll have Gandalf teaming up with Captain Kirk to fight Buzz and Woody.....in 3D! Movies are dead to me now i've got Halo 4 - Hitman - Dishonoured - games now have better stories and originality than their movie conterparts.... ...Course i'll be there for Godzilla though! RRRRAAAOOOOOWWWWW :O
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Nov. 27, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST
Ill be going back to before X3 and tell myself not to watch it and keep
by Torben
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Nov. 27, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST
Ill be going back to before X3 and tell myself not to watch it and keep
by Torben
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Nov. 27, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST
Ill be going back to before X3 and tell myself not to watch it and keep
by Torben
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Nov. 27, 2012, 3:31 p.m. CST
Fucking got stuck in a loop but at least the franchise has some dignity
by Torben
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Nov. 27, 2012, 3:31 p.m. CST
Fucking got stuck in a loop but at least the franchise has some dignity
by Torben
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Nov. 27, 2012, 3:51 p.m. CST
Bring them ALL back. Including Colossus and Nightcrawler. And now's the chance to get Angela Bassett for Storm, as should have been the case the first time.
by kevred
How many more goes are there at a storyline like this? Avengers has raised the game, and all the pieces are sitting right there for a comparable X-Men epic-scale story. With the old and new casts - the "lead up" films are already made. Do it right, Fox! This one is just waiting to be hit out of the park!
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spell McKellen's name correctly? It's disrespectful, asshats.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 3:53 p.m. CST
@drstrangerlove - 'games now have better stories and originality than their movie conterparts'
by kevred
I know films are bad these days, but good God, man, what are you on? Video games are the gutter of used-up cliches from other media, fan-fic ghettos of horrid storytelling and worse dialogue. Video games are the absolute nadir of storytelling, no matter how much people seem to like them. Popular taste has just gotten worse, I think, and I didn't think it was possible.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 3:55 p.m. CST
philjacksonisthemasterofzen: FOX's shared Marvel Universe
by DidntPullOutInTimeCop
it was announced months ago, but I think AICN missed that. Mark Millar is overseeing all future Marvel Movies from FOX. From the press release: "we look for fresh opportunities to innovate within our shared Marvel universe.”
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You know this to be true.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 3:58 p.m. CST
Spell McKellens name right? Ain't nobody got time fer dat!!!
by kindofabigdeal
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Nov. 27, 2012, 4:04 p.m. CST
I'll see your Terry Crews, and raise you Stephen Lang for Cable.
by davidwebb
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Just... no JLA.
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Lets face it The Xmen Franchise was crap by the end. The 2nd film had moments, the first one was a glorified tv movie and the 3rd one, you know. First class was fun and cut free of the garbage that came before. Whoever thought "lets link them up, that'll be good because we painted ourselves into corners before and we might as well pull this reboot prequel sequel into the mess" hasn't thought it through. Sure wolverine was a small nod in first class but wolverine was about the only thing they really got close to right!
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I almost asphyxiated. You will be sued for these instructions, please forward me your details. Meanwhile 'The Kid' will be fired, by a firing squad, for crimes against journalism and the English language. Or maybe we should just send him back to grade school, to brush up on some basics again?
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Nov. 27, 2012, 4:23 p.m. CST
Like the sound of this ... The original movies ARE worth saving ... they did far more right than they did wrong imo ...
by GINGE_MUPPET
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What happens if Biff travels back in time and give the Grays Sport Almanac to Magneto? Will Marty and Wolverine have to team up to stop them? www.nonipplesonthesuit.com
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Nov. 27, 2012, 4:36 p.m. CST
I can barely remember First Class, and I only saw it a few months ago.
by Gary Makin
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Nov. 27, 2012, 4:39 p.m. CST
fuck magneto and friends, Miss Lawrence is returning,thats all that matters
by lookylookymoontard
oh yes
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to totally save the babes!
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Singer so got the physicality of how I imagined Night Crawler's movement and teleporting - that scene to me stands out as some of the best 10 minutes of "comic book movie" film currently in existence. Moe Zart's "Dies Irae" was a brilliant touch as well. And yes...the OST to Xmen3 was fantastic (John Powell), the best Xmen soundtrack to date if you ask me (FC was good as well tho I'm somewhat alone with that opinion). But to the article, retconing can be a good and bad thing - and not just for continuity's sake. One example: in FC at the beginning when Shaw is coaxing a young Eric Lenshere to move the coin and then uses the "Nazi technique" to coax him by threatening his mother. All well and good...except for one tiny little detail. In the original Xmen, when they first separate Eric from his parents at the concentration camp, as the young Eric panics and begins to scream for his parents, unleashing his powers at the gate...the actor playing Eric has a moment where he seems to recognize that the gate is bending and yet it shouldn't be and that he's doing it (a great moment where fractional moments of shock and disbelief pass over the actor's face amidst the anguish/fear of what was happening). Leading me to think that, up to that point, neither Eric nor his family had any idea about his ability to move a coin much less affect magnetic/electric fields. When FC showed his mother giving him words of encouragement implying she knows he has this "power", I sort of got a little pissed...it works SOOO much better if his power is first realized at that moment shown in the first film...a moment of terrible pain and torment as this child realizes what is happening...all the while NOT realizing that he's something more than your usual child. Having that knowledge ahead of time, as shown in FC, takes away from the whole scene and context as presented. All they had to do was show puzzlement and confusion on the mother...and it would have worked. But she knew he had this ability. It almost completely ruins the scene for me.
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but so long as Stephen Lang is in for Cable, I'm in.
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Wouldn't be the same without him.
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and if 'The Rock' is anywhere near this I may pass. That is all.
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Ellen Page's Kitty Pryde appeared to be in her early 20s in The Last Stand.....so IF Days of Future Past presumably takes place in the early 70s....she wouldn't even be born yet!!! So I highly doubt they'll use her.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 5:35 p.m. CST
Do we really think 35 characters is enough to compete with The Avengers?
by Simpsonian
there are so many more x-men that could be added, why stop at 35?
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I didn't really liked any of the X-Men movies. The effects weren't all that great. The stories were so-so. Some of the casting was good however, I will give it that much, Magneto, Professor X, Wolverine and even Mystique were well cast. I found the Wolverine solo movie more enjoyable. But that's probably because Hugh Jackman made it good movie to watch. However, X-Men First Class was amazing. Thoroughly enjoyed this fine movie. Which is why, I'm a bit weary of seeing where things will go with the upcoming DAYS OF FUTURE PAST. I really want to like it. But Singer didn't deliver as much as I would have liked it with X-Men and X-Men 2. Ratner kinda sucked even worse with X-3, but let's not go there.. However, considering that Singer is involved again, I'm not so sure I'm going to like it. He's the same guy who royally screwed up Superman Returns by working with a very badly written script. On the other hand, he did great by Star Trek, so let's give him that much. Seems to me, he doesn't understand comics that well, which is why both X-Men movies and Superman returns sucked big time. Too bad Joss Whedon can't take the helm for the new X-Men movie, or even Kevin Smith for that matter, for these guys are true geeks who love the genre and respect it and can bring it forth, especially Joss with his proven record on the Avengers and his past work with Buffy, Angel, Firefly, etc.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 6:19 p.m. CST
That first sentence blows, X3 was not a debacle - just not as good as X2 - looking forward to Days of Future Past...that is all
by rhizomeman
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Each subsequent X-Men movie only exists to ignore the previous one. It's ridiculous.
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Halle Berry just isn't right for the role.
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Check out this tweet from DIY TV in the UK -"We chatted to the lovely Jason Flemyng who pretty much let slip that Matthew Vaughn will be on Star Wars IV duties oops! #Jameson7Psychos Did Flemyng spill the beans? Or is it a wind-up?
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Nov. 27, 2012, 7:34 p.m. CST
@kevred- I've posted it before, and I'll second you on this day...ANGELA BASSET FOR STORM...
by ThulsaBoom
...in fact recast the whole thing except Jackman, since Wolvie doesn't age. Halle Berry looks great naked, but Angela Basset was born to play Storm. I used to watch Strange Days over and over, wishing I could someday be raped by her. Also Strange Days is Kathryn Begelow's best work. Just sayin'.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 7:39 p.m. CST
And, yes, when I said I'd posted Angela Basset for Storm before, I was trying to be as cool as The Kidd was in, "telling us that this one was coming for quite sometime now..."
by ThulsaBoom
...because when I heard they were using "Days of Future Past" as the basis for the story it NEVER occurred to me that the original cast might show up again. Sadly, sarcasm is lost on some without vocal inflection.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 7:43 p.m. CST
Holy crap! New happenings on THE FOREVER WAR adaptation that Ridley Scott is involved with
by lv_426
Sorry to go off topic, but Fox has hired another writer to work on The Forever War for Ridley Scott. Hopefully we'll get an article and talkback about it here soon, but I just couldn't contain my excitement.
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You do know the idea behind blockbuster films is to make money? I gurantee you James Marsden who has the screen presence of sphagetti is not going to ever be featured over screen time for Hugh "ladies in the seats" Jackman. In the comics, Cyclops is a badass who I clearly enjoy leading the X-Men. However his incarnation on the big screen barely registers, and then there's whole thing of seeing 26 year-old Marsden together with 36 year old Famke Jensen starting in X-Men. Jensen is no Mariel Streep but even she outshines her "soulmate". Phoenix and Wolverine generate actual heat between them, not exactly Bogart and Bacall, but they were surely presented as more believable as lovers than Cyclop's whiney self.
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H8ters gotta hate. For it's time the Golden Gate Bridge scene was one of coolest WTF moments in a superhero movie. For the money and time constraints it is a pretty solid flick.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 7:55 p.m. CST
I never want to see Halle Berry in a comic book movie again, unless its a WANTED reboot
by gk1
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He has the looks and the build.
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if by WTF, you mean why the fuck is it suddenly night time when it was just day?
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Nov. 27, 2012, 8:27 p.m. CST
If they can make a coherant movie out of this...let alone a good one, i will be impressed.
by Sean
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Nov. 27, 2012, 8:30 p.m. CST
@thulsaboom. I don't know about this X-men shit. All I know is...
by Deceased Fan
Arnold for Thanos. That is all.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 10:27 p.m. CST
More Liefeld characters please!! Shatterstar! Feral! Cameltoe! Thrustbox!
by Fries Against
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Nov. 27, 2012, 10:40 p.m. CST
Speaking of Angela Basset/ Black Actress/ Black Comic Heroines
by Dawhiteguy
I have not read The Walking Dead comic books. She is the best black female heroine in a fantasy series I have ever seen. Back to Storm, who can play a great Storm? I want to see the Storm who wears tribal outfits that connect to her roots and earthiness. Maybe "Gugu Mbatha-Raw", she has the looks for the part.
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I'd be glad to forget X-men Origins: Wolverine and there was no clear indication of when that movie took place, but Havok is supposed to be younger then Cyclops, 1st class takes place clearly in the 60's, and before Professor X has met Cyclops in X-men Origins:Wolverine which appears to take place in possibly any period between 1970-1990 it was not clear at all, will anyone actually attempt to explain this?
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They have no kind of re-watch value compared to their comic/ cartoon counterparts.
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I was pretty indifferent towards X-1 but I think X-2 stands out as one of the best comic book movies. And X-3 and X-men origins: Wolverine are cinematic aberrations.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 12:31 a.m. CST
Baaaahhh. If they get ANY of this right,I'll shit a sailboat.
by Mike McCutcheon
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Nov. 28, 2012, 12:34 a.m. CST
Speaking as a 2nd generation X-geek,I have serious doubts about this. Unless they hire Chris Claremont to write it.
by Mike McCutcheon
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While the rest of that movie blew unholy donkey dick, Page was pretty great in it as I recall, and pretty close to what Kitty was in the comics (the ones I read anyway).
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Would love to see this. Rachel back in time finds the aftermath of last Stand and mom and dad dead. Figures out somone is fucking with the timestream. Recruits wolvie's x force plus legion to go back in time and set shit straight. Giant fucking fight between brotherhood xmen and xforce. Rachel finds apocylypse and nimrod fighting to fuck the m'kraan crystal goes full fucking phoenix and destroys reality and remakes it. end has Mcavoy Xavier sitting bald in a wheelchair with a green blanket on his lap watching tony stark come out as iron man on tv. He thinks "to me my xmen" Scott, Bobby, Jean, Hank, and Warren show up. National emergency called to clean up fanboy jizz
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What the fuck kind of writing is this? Apart from a rambling first sentence which goes on far too long, this is amateur at best. Half the articles here read like a teenagers over-excited blog entry rather than a legitimate film news website. FFS get your Mum to proof read this stuff before posting it.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 3:43 a.m. CST
With more actor `doubles` there`ll be less time for each as a character.
by higgledyhiggles
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The only problem is that if you're really going to stick to the comics, Claremont made him an Aborigine for some stupid reason. Also, Stephen Lang was born to play Cable. I've never seen an actor who more closely resembled a comic book character.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 5:48 a.m. CST
The law of diminishing returns applies to all Fox-men adaptations
by migmog
An increasingly apathetic fan base wooed by expensive fan boy pleasing announcements to give the impression that they have or will make a 'film for the fans'. the biggest problem is at least half the core fan base no longer cares. The problem is that in the words of the great B.B. King 'The Thrill Has Gone'. Too many times have this studio fallen short and while there will be a number of fans who will clamber to see the new films in the opening week there are many that will be boycotting or simply not bothering to see these films. This in turn has lead to more big promises and ever increasing production budgets to emulate the success of the Avengers without having put any of the work in. Only a Marvel produced film can save this holy mess. It is a desperate situation This is a perfect example of brand damage. It should be studied at school : 'How to screw up one of the biggest comic book film franchises' Give it up boys the rots too deep on this one
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When did you ever read a comic, put it down, and say to yourself "man, Cable and Bishop, such interesting characters!" Cable and Bishop represent a lot of what went wrong with comics in the early 90s. That is artists "creating characters" by doodling a random assortment of cliches. Bishop's claim to fame is having the most extreme mullet of all time. Cable's is having massive shoulder pads and a metal arm. You guys have to be kidding me by asking for their inclusion.
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What the fuck happened to the past decade!?
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And yeah, Strange Days is a great undervalued movie! I can't stand Halle Berry. She somehow managed to be the worst thing in Die Another Day. (Which in a film with invisible cars and dreadful cgi, was quite an accomplishment..) And yeah, add me to the list of folks hoping to see Cyclops in this. It is such a shame the way his character was treated in these films..
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Nov. 28, 2012, 8:04 a.m. CST
I always thought Natalie Portman would have been a great Kitty Pryde..
by steverogers5
But they ruined the prospect of that ever happening by putting her in a really worthless role in Thor...Sigh!
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Nov. 28, 2012, 8:21 a.m. CST
Angela Bassett? She old as hell! We need a young hot talent like Rihanna for Storm
by Deceased Fan
She was great in Battleship.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 8:59 a.m. CST
I will never really LOVE any X-Men movie, until they redeem Cyclops! Hes the fucking main character of the comic, for fucks sake!!! He deserves better.
by MariusXe
I like the movies and I like almost all the casting. I can even watch Last Stand and Wolverine Origins, BUT they have to give Scott some time in the spotlight! He is such a cool character in the comics!
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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QRxj-be8rp8/TV6LLtKPAVI/AAAAAAAAApM/oa4jBbIGISQ/s1600/iman222.jpg Though, her time has probably passed.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 9 a.m. CST
Cable is a cool character and very interesting, SINCE the Messiah War thingy, where he travelled through time and had to become a father for the baby mutant messiah.
by MariusXe
Get your facts straight, man! Cable was a joke in the 90s, but today, hes pretty cool.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 9:03 a.m. CST
As much as I love Wolverine, I want Cyclops as the main hero in a X-Men movie
by MariusXe
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I agree that Berry is 100% wrong for Storm and that Basset, circa Strange Days, would be more than perfect for the role. But can we stop with the gimmick casting already? What's next? Mick Jagger as Toad? David Crosby as Blob? Brittany Spears recast as the White Queen? Justin Bieber recast as Leech? I haven't seen some of these movies that feature non-actors as actors (Battleship) but this is not a good trend to start in sci-fi/action/comic book movies. If people want their Whitney Huston 'Bodyguard' vehicles, fine...more power to them as it's a perfect fit. And there are exceptions of course...always liked Dolly Parton back in the day, Marky Mark isn't terrible (and occasionally great - The Departed, etc) and Will Smith is often fantastic (I Robot and I am Legend - bad movies yes but he was excellent in them), Mos Def has been great in everything I've seen him in (and I felt he was fine as Ford Prefect), but it seems like casting just jumps at the chance to cast someone on their name only..Rhiana, Madonna, Paris Hilton, being perfect examples. Perhaps these people can act...most likely they can't...but I find the motivation to cast them to be incongruous with the true intent of movie making...telling a visual story. Of course...I'm a delusional, anachronistic, fantasist idiot who believes that something like 'creative integrity' should be driven by something other than just profit. Now, at the risk of being cynical, there's hardly a concern for anything beyond profit. And that really really sucks. And another thing... For some reason, the actors in comic book movies always seem to grow larger than the parts they portray. Hugh Jackman played the part of Wolverine...he is NOT Wolverine and the part is not freakin owed to him for life. Our loyalty should be to the character first and foremost - the person playing the role is only important insofar as talent and similar physical appearance correlating to the character in question. Jackman may be the reason certain people see these movies but the reason we (geeks) see them is for Wolverine. I don't see Xmen to see the fantastic Patrick Stewart act. I see Xmen cause I love the characters and the universe in which they reside. I don't see Xmen to see the crazy beautiful Rebecca Romain half-naked and painted blue..I see Xmen to see Mystique (although I cannot deny, shallow or not, that this is definitely delicious gravy for me seeing Romain in all her half-naked, blue-skinned glory but I digress...either way, she's a more than capable actor!) Of all people, geeks like us should be heralding the characters and not the freakin actors who play them. All this talk of who should play who and us going through the rounds of famous names and faces really misses the point. Only here (and other film "connoisseur" sites) do people have great concern about whose writing the script and who's directing versus which actor 'du jour' is getting the part. But yet when people in AICN fall into the same apparent trap of supporting gimmick casting for any reason as opposed to working purely from story, plot, and character, I start to get really worried. I know some of you self-loathing types think geek dollars aren't significant or that our "tropes" are meaningless but I think it's abundantly clear that you couldn't be more wrong. No geek dollar - no base inspiration for things like Avengers and the billion it pulled in. Yes, more than "geeks" saw Avengers in the theater but do you actually (and honestly) think for one fraction of a second that a movie like 'Avengers' would even exist without geeks?
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Not just Sir Ian.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST
darth macchio a lot of the same skills make someone a good singer/rapper/celebrity as what makes someone a good actor
by Stephen
Its a similar skill set. Yeah, you get the Paris Hiltons, but the bottom line is if you're a celebrity (any kind of celebrity) you're more than likely to be talented at presenting yourself to an audience, which is a big huge part of acting. Casting may be in many cases dollar driven, but no less so for "real" actors than for singer/rapper/model-turned actors. As much as I just don't like Common, I think he's become a fine actor. I don't like him the way I don't like Tom Cruise. Just preference. You can't say Tom Cruise isn't a great actor. Both the Wahlbergs, Tupac, Will Smith, Justin Timberlake, etc. All of these guys were able to become great actors because they were not afraid to put themselves out onto screen physically and emotionally, as they had already been doing with their music.
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And that's a good thing too. I was the biggest Will Smith skeptic..so much so that I used to joke he was being cast as everything in everything (especially after hearing he apparently wanted his whole family cast in the matrix sequels after he declined the role of neo initially) but then I saw him in 'I, Robot' which is not a good movie (but based on a fantastic book) but Smith is superb in it. The scene where he describes the accident and why he had such a horrible bias against the robots was simply fantastic. i think he's far more talented an actor than he ever was a musician. so, to my point, i'm not talking about stopping people who have talent in front of the camera but who also happen to be from other celebrity-based fields. not even a little bit. hell, i think Duane Johnson is great and more than worthy heir to the rather madhouse action movie genre from which so many other iconic stars have emerged. all the people you mentioned are unquestionably talented actors. which is great - I'm not prejudiced or biased against musicians or anybody for that matter becoming an actor if they can act. what concerns me is this zeal to seek out people for reasons other than established acting talent. or not bothering to ensure that talent before the camera rolls. rihanna is a very attractive woman and i cannot say if she's a capable actor as i have not seen 'battleship' but was she cast due to her name recognition or because of her name recognition AND the matter of her actually being great as an actor? comedians are another facet on this...tina fey is hilarious and does great work now but initially she was so clearly aware of the camera and being on camera that it was rather excruciating to watch. and the less said about cindy crawfords forway into "acting" the better. which is my point really - the casting crew had to know she was terrible but yet still cast her cause...well hell, it's cindy crawford after all! (she does make good furniture tho) and i always respect their courage...hell even lohan is somewhat courageous doing that liz and dick thing (whereas the studio seems somewhat exploitative)...but i care more about the story than i do the people portraying the role. that must come first. and it seems like we're inexorably moving further and further away from that. actors used to seek roles, cherish them from the character's perspective...now it seems like we're moving into this notion of roles seeking actors. I cannot say that this doesn't make me a little nervous about the future of film.
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While you indeed would look great stuffed and mounted above my mantle, I like you so I'm going to have to throw you back in. Rihanna? please. Battleship? Dead giveaway. I do apologize for that bit of fun. Your pal, adeceasedfan Btw Britney Spears as White Queen. Wish I had thought of that. Lol.
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Also apologies to Angela Bassett. While I agree at one point in her career, she was the...ahem, Perfect Storm. I was disparaging her good name for a laugh.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 1:53 p.m. CST
This will be all about the fabulousness of Jennifer Lawrence. She's a star, get it?
by Pat
Mystique will be front and center. If anything, Ellen Page/Kitty will just sit in a chair the whole movie with diodes connected to her brain, eyes rolling up into her head, drool dribbling down her chin, and they'll cut to her now and again just to acknowledge her existence.
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Its not really such a revelation that they're tying in cast members from Singer's films to the prequels, since both Jackman and Romijn had cameos in First Class.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 2:30 p.m. CST
i hope they keep the emphasis on fassbender, mcavoy & jen lawrence
by smudgewhat
they are the whole reason XFC worked. would love to see ellen page back as kitty though.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 3:10 p.m. CST
um smudgewhat i disagree. McKellen and PStew are unsurpassable
by Stephen
I have a great hope that we will get an X-Men franchise some time down the road that is actually amazing and not the "decent movies with great moments" that we have with this one. But one thing I believe is that even if I live for 100 more years I will never see a better casting of those two characters. Please let them shine.
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Because, well, Cable is not in Days of Future Past. Plus he is the character I hate most of all comic book characters. I can live with Bishop, but not Cable. Although I defy anyone to not make either of those two look absurd in live action, considering that they even look ridiculous on the page....
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Of course, then they can't be fighting the same Brotherhood that Mystique was a part of in the original story, but both the old and young versions already exist, and both are excellent. Jennifer Lawrence isn't exactly a flash in the pan, she is an amazing actress who really DESERVES to be a star. Watch Winter's Bone and you will be converted.
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Nov. 28, 2012, 6:21 p.m. CST
Angela Basset would have been the perfect Storm when Strange Days came out in 1995
by Autodidact
It's 2012, she's 55 or something now.
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Is simply the wrong choice. This guy is the King of turning hot attractive chicks fugly in his movies. And while I'm not saying it has anything to do with his dude preferences, it totally has everything to do with his dude preferences. For example: Kate Bosworth in Blue Crush - hot as hell Kate Bosworth in Superman Returns - fug Famke Jansen in anything - hot Famke Jansen in X-Men - fug and mad This guy made Halle Barry wear basically a tight mumu as Storm, made Jennifer Lawrence somehow simultaneously unattractive and naked at the same time (how?) and took the only female character in the Usual Suspects and turned her into a hell biatch. Aren't movies like this catered toward us geeks? Don't geeks usually favor the hot chick Jim Lee version of the X-Men characters? Or maybe at the very least a little skin? Tell me you don't want to see some super hot chick playing Psylocke in an X-Men flick? Not a chance on this one with Captain Meat Whistle at the helm. Mark my words my friends, you are in for one big non hot chick wang fest. I'll still watch it, but with likely major disappointment ....
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Not everything can be like the comic, I understand that, these are movies. But the First Class movie should have been a reboot. Christ, they made how many Star Trek films over a couple of decades? They could have made a real series of great X-Men films, starting with the original team and moving into the Wolverine era, and done the Dark Phoenix story some justice (instead of wiping their asses on it, which is how it came out in X3.) I fear for Days of Future Past, because I don't understand why they don't just write an original story instead of taking something famously well-loved and "betterizering" it in Hollywood hack fashion.
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Nov. 29, 2012, 12:42 a.m. CST
Haha! Someone is holding out for Chris Claremont, aka, the Red Tide between bearable X-Men periods?
by Baked
Fucker made Marrow "pretty." Chris Claremont is not allowed in this dojo.
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Because, you know, Jennifer Lawrence and Ellen Page are hot.
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Nov. 29, 2012, 12:37 p.m. CST
made Jennifer Lawrence somehow simultaneously unattractive and naked at the same time (how?)
by FlyingToupee
Maybe I missed something, but if you're talking about FC, I couldn't disagree more. I couldn't take my eyes off of her for the whole movie.
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Cause we are way better at making women look hot than straight guys. Singer did make Halle Berry unattractive but so did the uber hetero Last Stand director. I disagree about Jennifer Lawrence, but that movie was directed by Matthew Vaughn not Singer. Kate Bosworth has anorexia or something so she simply isn't that hot any more. For the record, I don't think Singer is a very good director but it's not why you say it is. Also, we homos loooooove chicks like Psylocke so I really don't think you have a y gay friends or family.
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I have lots of gay friends, but that isn't the point. All I'm saying is that there is a certain part of singers interpretation of the x men that completely disappoints me, and the uniforms he has them wear is part of it. I'm fine if he wants to focus on Hugh jackman walking around in a wife beater showing off the pecs for the ladies and the dudes that dig it, but throw the straight guys a bone and let us see more of famke Jansen than her mean glare. Needless to say the black leather was horrible, and why not let them wear the uniforms featured in the comics. Why not let the core team be cyclops , beast, angel, jean grey and iceman? I could go on. Anyways, that wasn't an anti homo sexual rant, it was an anti Bryan Singer not being willing to feature a hot chick rant, presumably because he has no interest in it. And To flying troupe , Jennifer Lawrence has a hot bod but could have been painted better, a bit picky I know but my opinion. And btw, singer produced first class's hence the connection. Oh and f you both, it's my opinion so go blow each other.
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