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STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS has an approved synopsis

Hey folks, Harry here...  throbbing pain aside, this approved Official Synopsis went up today  on STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS.   The film is being described as an explosivive action thriller.  It also seems that they're insinuating that Starfleet's fleet has been destroyed & everything they stand for.  

NOW - KHAN is many things, but a "one man weapon of mass destruction" isn't a phrase that I could imagine describing him with.  

We're also told that Kirk as a personal score to settle with this character.   NOW...  Gary Mitchell, from the classic WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE...  He had history with Kirk.  AND he is most definitely a one man weapon of mass destruction, but more than that.   Gary Mitchell could do all manners of awesome.   He had God-like powers.   

NOW - there is nothing to prevent JJ & crew from creating a new character for their expanding new Trek universe...  But with STARFLEET run into the ground, we now have a Trek universe that had the Klingon fleet destroyed, Vulcan destroyed and apparently most of STARFLEET destroyed.   

I'm wildly curious to see where they're going with this - and I'm hoping that JJ makes a third film as director (if not more) simply because I'm enjoying this reboot.   Here's the synopsis:


STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS – Approved Synopsis 11/26/12



In Summer 2013, pioneering director J.J. Abrams will deliver an explosive action thriller that takes Star Trek Into Darkness.


When the crew of the Enterprise is called back home, they find an unstoppable force of terror from within their own organization has detonated the fleet and everything it stands for, leaving our world in a state of crisis.


With a personal score to settle, Captain Kirk leads a manhunt to a war-zone world to capture a one man weapon of mass destruction.


As our heroes are propelled into an epic chess game of life and death, love will be challenged, friendships will be torn apart, and sacrifices must be made for the only family Kirk has left: his crew.

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  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:06 p.m. CST




  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:08 p.m. CST


    by Fievel

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:09 p.m. CST


    by reharb

    Gary Mitchell for sure... but is this the best they could cough up?

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Tyler Perry

    by My_Parts_Are_Showing

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:11 p.m. CST

    by Jubba

    you never need anything more than

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Vague.... synopsis indeed.

    by peter

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:16 p.m. CST

    @Jubba ....awesome!!!

    by peter

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:16 p.m. CST


    by Matthew

    gary mitchel or a young super soldier kahn type but I'm going with tribbels

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:18 p.m. CST

    STAR TREK: Larry Hagman Has Died

    by Fart Magnus

    I guess he never did matte paintings or held the strings on a space ship for a shitty late fifties sci fi film, so Ginger The Hutt won't bother mentioning him. Fuck this site!

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:20 p.m. CST


    by Jayemel

    So the first nine minutes shown soon will be the Enterprise returning to Earth to find the destruction.

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:20 p.m. CST

    am I the only one

    by Matthew

    who like star trek better than star wars? I like both but am really looking forward to more trek. I know an animated trek is rumored from interviews.

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:20 p.m. CST

    Whoops, ignore my last subject...

    by Jayemel

    ...posting tired. I had such a good point too...maybe.

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:23 p.m. CST

    See? I TOLD you guys it was gonna be that Paul Mitchell dude.

    by Shermdawg

  • Does the Official Synopsis have throbbing pain or is it STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS that has the throbbing pain? Or is this the build up to a 30%true/30%half true/40%BS article about why this site is (again) (again) (again) (again) behind/lame/late withe news? Harry, each excuse may seem important and relevant in and of itself, but 3 f-ing years of OH THIS WEEK THIS IS THE PROBLEM gets lame.

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:31 p.m. CST

    But which Beastie Boys track will they use in this one?

    by Simpsonian

    I hope it's Fight for your Right (to party) because that would be awesome.

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Interesting give-and-take on the villain.

    by Cody Willoughby

    God-like powers, bland sitcommy name. Even when the villain is something broadly established, like an abstract force of nature, I think Star Trek has always only been as compelling as its antagonist. The previous movies that offer the best repeat experiences all have pretty good adversaries. Abrams' team seems to have a pretty focused process, so I can't exactly say I'm worried, but one would think a character fans cherish would have a less Growning-Pains sounding name.

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Whoa whoa whoa hold up there slick, pioneering?

    by FistOSalmon

    Pioneering director of what, number of lens flares per shot? He's directed a grand total of 3 movies. The third sequel in a Tom Cruise action series, a Spielberg tribute movie and the 11th Star Trek movie. Nothing, and I mean literally nothing in any of those movies was anything I haven't seen done before and better many times. Tell the paramount press release department to tone it down a bit, it's not Fellini's Star Trek Into Darkness, it's the Alias guy's sequel to his sequel.

  • Are they ever going to Boldly Go somewhere? Explore strange new worlds? Seek out life and stuff? Or does J.J. just like to blow stuff up REAL GOOOOD?!!! Just wondering out loud...

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:43 p.m. CST


    by Jaka

    .......................................... No. Wrong.

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:44 p.m. CST

    The more accurate TREK II synopsis:

    by justmyluck

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:47 p.m. CST

    Instead of Spock dying like in II...

    by paladinryan

    Kirk will sacrifice himself.

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:47 p.m. CST

    Finally the truth emerges

    by NoahTall

    It's Finnegan!

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:53 p.m. CST


    by Tigger11

    They have never said it isn't Khan, however they are on record as saying it is not Gary Mitchell, plus the new comic series which jj has said is canon has already featured Gary Mitchell acquiring his powers and being killed. Despite all of Harry's protests to the contrary, khan is the villain, in fact the description of him is similar to what they said about him in the khan novels when he stole tech from Gary 7.

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:56 p.m. CST

    fistosalmonn - Well said. Good point.

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    Like a porno production, Hollywood likes to have a fluffer around to make sure things appear larger than they actually are...

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:58 p.m. CST

    Destroying all those fleets is bizarre

    by FrodoFraggins

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 12:06 a.m. CST

    Does anyone have

    by Bill

    The key to decoding Harry's posts into coherent English? When I read anything he posts my temples start to throb.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Oh, I thought this was the Episode VII approved synopsis

    by Michael Thompson


  • Nov. 27, 2012, 12:19 a.m. CST


    by MaxHeadroom

    Really, Is that even a grammatically logical word to sue??

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 12:23 a.m. CST

    sorry but this new thing calling itself ST isn't

    by corplhicks

    the first movie felt like a 2 hours episode and ended like one. the enterprise nacelles were way too big the ship as proportionally too small just look at the size of the hanger, the bridge looked like a 1960 movie doing a future scene, phasers sounded horrible, etc.. just someone wake up at end of this , go into hydroshower and emerge on STTNG world

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 12:23 a.m. CST

    Oh, wait...

    by MaxHeadroom

    Maybe it means the biggest lens flare in the univers "detonates" and everything goes up in smoke?

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 12:28 a.m. CST

    This is barely English

    by Dan Anthony

    they find an unstoppable force of terror from within their own organization has detonated the fleet and everything it stands for

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 12:28 a.m. CST

    Its going to be Gary Mitchell.

    by tailhook

    Its really the only person who even makes sense within the Alternate Universe conceit and that synopsis. Gary Mitchell and Kirk spend time at the Academy and become pals(cue flashbacks).. they have a falling out in this timeline(probably over a girl) and as a result of the Romulan showing up, Mitchell is no longer the helmsman and Kirk is no longer there to stop him when he Goes God. And i don't care which of you jackasses think that anything outside what is on the screen is canon, Jar Jar and Co. have a long history of lying through their teeth Obama-style when it comes to off-screen 'canon'. Anyone remember The Lost Experience among other things? They even played a video at Comic-con that was blatantly false. Right. Nothing from Jar Jar is trusted other than what shows up on the screen.. ever. Its all smoke and mirrors until then and outright lies as needed. If anything, the comic was meant to remind you of who the character was, and raise his profile before the next movie. If complete tools take this to be canon and make fools of themselves proclaiming it to be the case, all the better.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 12:31 a.m. CST

    I'm not gonna say that this can't be a good movie.

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    But I would prefer that Kirk & the Crew go on a couple of missions that don't involve saving EVERYTHING in existence. Just to get a little experience under their belts. I mean prior to becoming Captain of the Enterprise strait out of the Academy, Kirk mostly was involved in crashing cars, riding motorbikes, and getting into bar fights. Not to mention, the humping of extraterrestrials and fixing of computer simulation tests for starship command stituations after he was in the Academy. I'm only saying that I'd like them to have a decent adventure, maybe learn a few things about themselves, Starfleet, and the ship. ...and not have them saving EVERYTHING. Again.

  • I wonder if all the big sci-fi/action/superhero sequels made in the coming years are going to use that same kind of revenge-seeking chaos trickster type villain plot now after the successes of Skyfall and the second and third Christopher Nolan Batman films. Seems like it allows for lots of darkness and conflict, especially in middle chapters to trilogies. On the other hand, this even sounds practically the same as the major plot point from the Battlestar Galactica miniseries where the Cylons were able to infiltrate the Colonial Fleet's defense network, allowing them to easily shut down and destroy all the battlestars and other military equipment and infrastructure. Which to be honest, I don't mind so much as it can be a good story catalyst for these space opera type yarns. It doesn't sound like Star Trek though either. Then again, this is JJ Abrams' shiny lens flare action movie version of Star Trek. I guess what kinda irks me is that yet again big whig Hollywood types can easily get away with lifting stories and concepts from other movies or shows while lesser known filmmakers and writers seem to always get blasted out of the water by filmeratti blog fucks for even remotely using anything even resembling a tried and true story trope or narrative device like this in their films or scripts. Not unless we get a rare case where a trendy little film like The Raid comes along and the filmeratti blog fucks decide to shit on a more mainstream film (Dredd) because some silly retarded meme is developed in social media by the twittering masses.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 12:37 a.m. CST

    J.J. Abrams, Pretty Good Director of Some Stuff

    by jmac4ever

    I was thinking about this the other day and I'm glad fistosalmonn brought it up. While I really liked Abrams' Star Trek and MI:3, I really don't get this God-like status he's achieved. People talk about him like he's Nolan. I don't see the comparison. He's a decent pop filmmaker, to be sure. Is he better than, say, Michael Bay? Sure. But, when you really look at his body of work, what can you point to that was so great? Alias wasn't terrible, but it never had the following that a Buffy or even a Smallville had. Move on to Lost and you'll see a show that he really had very little to do with. Examine his films and you get three movies that are all based the ideas of others and, while that in and of itself isn't all that bad, none of the three of them really "changed the game" like a Jurassic Park (based on a book) or a Titanic (based on a true story) or a TDK (based on a comic book). Ultimately, the guy is pretty decent director who's yet to really make anything great. Bryan Singer has more of a real legacy than Abrams does at this point, IMO. All that being said, I WILL be watching The Hobbit in IMAX just to see that first nine minutes of STID.

  • I agree. It isn't like every other movie we get these days isn't about saving the world or saving the fucking galaxy. I'd rather have seen a Star Trek prequel that didn't gloss over the Starfleet Academy days. Maybe the final act being a mission where we see that Kirk has changed a bit by way of his years at Starfleet Academy. He doesn't have to go from punk kid to Shatner exactly, but a growth instead of *fuck it, I'm just gonna sit in the captain's chair and you can all kiss my ass* attitude we ended up with. Instead of just telling a story about the classic character of young James T. Kirk, we got all kinds of convoluted nonsense and typical movie franchise hoop jumping to establish a reboot (blowing up Vulcan, meeting Old Spock). Having said that, I don't think the film is necessarily a loss, just more of a big wasted opportunity. They seemed more worried about rebooting and setting up the epic scaled background milieu than setting up the actual characters and doing much of anything to grow them in ways we haven't seen with the older versions. Hopefully the sequel will feature more character focus along with all the lens flares and exploding starships.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 1:07 a.m. CST

    Cliches: The Movie

    by Bobo_Vision

    That's one of the lamest synopses I've ever read. It reads like it should be read by Kent Brockman or the moviephone guy for extra cheese.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 1:40 a.m. CST


    by LT Weezie

    No, never never...from the description, it is a bizarro universe version. Why can't they find their own original villians and/or circumstances and take it from there. I got through the first "new" STAR TREK film with that in mind. This is an alternate universe, and while entertaining and pretty to look at, will never ever be the real ST as Gene Roddenberry and the original cast envisioned it. I worked in STAR TREK TMP as a crew member, and have been a faithful admirer since the beginning with the TOS cast. Big flash bang and shiny special effects do not make heart!

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 1:48 a.m. CST

    The villain is Bane!

    by Prooth

    He spent the last two decades mixing explosives into the ... cement ... in all of the Starfleet ships. All ... of ... them?

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 2:02 a.m. CST

    I'm not reading this (but I bet someone mentioned lens flares).

    by Gary Makin

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 2:05 a.m. CST

    Throbbing pain?

    by Crooooooow

    Why would you feel the need to mention that unless that's a code for your JJ Abrams induced boner? Also, why do you seem so confused by the personal score statement? He has a personal score from his home's fleet getting destroyed not some long ago grudge.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 2:31 a.m. CST


    by Talkbacker with no name

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 2:32 a.m. CST

    ignore my last subject

    by Talkbacker with no name

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 2:46 a.m. CST

    Has Apocalypse Now or....

    by Peter

    ... Joseph Conrad been mentioned yet, or is the link so blatantly obvious it just doesn't need to be articulated? This sounds like a loose remake.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 2:47 a.m. CST

    Tri-D chess in 3D?

    by Fred

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 2:57 a.m. CST

    *we now have a Trek universe that had the Klingon fleet destroyed*

    by Bass Ackwards

    Wait, is that part of canon, or did that happen in the first film? I've missed this bit of info I think...

  • Doesn't sounds like "TREK"...but might be entertaining none the less...Will read it later...I have a dinner cruise on the Chao Phraya in 2 hours and then maybe some drinks over on Soi Cowboy with some female hookers and Lady Boys later, before I get wrapped up in this shit.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 3:11 a.m. CST

    Much of the Klingon fleet got destroyed in the 2009 film

    by bubcus

    ... based on the transmission Uhura intercepted. There's deleted scenes and audio commentaries to go over in that film, blah blah blah. I'm looking forward to this next film; I am just disappointed that it took so long to get to us. But, here's hoping that they took that time to get it right.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 3:24 a.m. CST

    thanks bubcus

    by Bass Ackwards

    I must have completely missed that or just forgot it.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 3:30 a.m. CST

    Dammit-we didn't get 1 film before the Federation goes down??

    by txtone04

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 3:30 a.m. CST

    Dammit-we didn't get 1 film before the Federation goes down??

    by txtone04

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 3:35 a.m. CST

    Score to settle-so who dies? Pike

    by txtone04

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 3:40 a.m. CST

    Gary Mitchell? Already dead in the IDW comics.

    by Leto III

    The current, ongoing monthly comic book series (which is total canon, BTW) already killed off Mitchell in issues #1-2, the new timeline's "Where No Man Has Gone Before" adaptation. Roberto Orci has confirmed multiple times that everything seen in the comics will be reflected in the new film, which means that the Gary Mitchell character will not be played by Cumberbatch: In fact, it's sounding more and more like a certain disgruntled former Starfleet captain (i.e., Garth of Izar, or possibly Matthew Decker) than Khan Noonien Singh or Gary Mitchell.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 3:41 a.m. CST

    1 film before the Federation goes down

    by Bass Ackwards

    Unfortunately this doesn't strike me as a franchise with much patience. It still bugs me that the trajectory of Kirk's career was Academy -> Starship Captain. They could have easily ended the first film by making him the 1st officer to Captain Pike, and spent the second film with him having been a 1st officer for however many years, and doing the exciting 1st officer stuff (leading the away missions), and THEN transitioned him to the captain role in the course of or at the end of the second film.

  • Just occurred to me right before I read this thread, incidentally. Pike would be just about the only other living person (besides his crew, his mother, and maybe Spock Prime) whose death would send Kirk over the edge and into revenge.


  • Nov. 27, 2012, 3:46 a.m. CST

    The Whale Ship came and no one went back in time

    by HornOrSilk

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 3:47 a.m. CST

    or Gary Mitchell. both of them are humans with super-powers

    by frank

    and close to Kirk.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 3:50 a.m. CST

    But i think it is Charlie X because both the original actor

    by frank

    and Cumberbatch have a bit weird facials and that's why Cumberbatch was hired.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 3:51 a.m. CST

    Looks Promising

    by sophie saint

    I am quite looking forward to this film.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 3:53 a.m. CST


    by Leto III

    Again, though...Gary Mitchell already died in the comics, which are Bob Orci-supervised. He's pretty much out as the new film's villain. Also, Charlie X wasn't in Starfleet at all during his episode of TOS -- unless they've changed that somehow, I don't see him being the new threat, either.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 3:58 a.m. CST

    Spock Prime will sacrifice himself once again

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    You heard it here first.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 4:02 a.m. CST

    Star Trek 2 - Into Skyfall

    by Mike Holdbrook

    Ex-Federation Officer / Ex - Government Spy Infilltrates Head quarters - Destroys Headquarters - Takes Revenge On His Ex-Employers - Dies.... Not worth going to see Star Trek 2 cos this is what happens...oh, and then Kirk starts his five year mission, no more films as JJ jumps ship...litterally, to do Star Wars Ep 9...Suck Me!

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 4:09 a.m. CST

    fistosalmonn and jmac4ever

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Exactly. Abrams is a competent TV director but this Paramount press release calling him a 'visionary director' is total balls. How the fuck could anyone call MI:3, Star Trek and Super 8 pioneering? The fuck?! JJ Abrams hasn't developed any kind of individual style, those films could have been directed by anyone. Jesus. <p> It doesn't help that he is lumbered with the worst writers in Hollywood.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 4:10 a.m. CST

    Stanley Kubrick was a pioneering director.

    by kwisatzhaderach

    JJ Abrams? Not so much.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 4:10 a.m. CST

    Here's a better synopsis...

    by Bradly Durant

    Paramount Pictures and J J Abrams are proud to present to you the follow up to the 2009 internationally successful reboot of the Star Trek franchise. Starring Chris Pine as Captain James T Kirk and Zachary Quinto as Spock. Set in the year

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 4:11 a.m. CST

    Starfleet's fleet has been destroyed & everything they stand for

    by loafroaster

    Hurts my brain.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 4:24 a.m. CST

    It's Not Gary Mitchell!!!

    by Drsambeckett1984

    They have already used that story line in the official prequel comic, which was supervised by the films writers. Hopefully it's a new character.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 4:29 a.m. CST

    There really is only one guy it can be

    by DrLektor

    Garth of Izar. Think about it. An insane ex-Starfleet legend that escapes from a mental asylum planet and challenges Kirk to stop him. BC even looks somewhat like him. It all fits.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 4:30 a.m. CST

    It's Charlie X. you heard it here first.

    by frank

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 4:34 a.m. CST

    Good good, this is what we need

    by Martin Hogg

    Darker, grittier Star Trek. Thank FUCK they arent doing a 2 hour Harry Mudd episode.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 4:45 a.m. CST

    Gary Mitchell Kills Pike and RockMonster Side-kick

    by radii

    Not Khan, not Harry Mudd, not Tremaine, not Charlie X, not Alternative Factor hippie ... it's Gary Mitchell - perfect for Cumberbatch to play and a good choice to retro it up ... but this whole 'destroy Star Fleet' thing is ridiculous unless Abrams is trying re-create the *genius* work he did on the LOST ending ... hopefully he kills Tyler Perry's character so he can never again be a foul presence in Star Trek ... and they clear the deck enough so the next Trek is them all stepping through the time-doorway

  • Seriously, before one more person blurts out, "DUUURRRHHHP, IT'Z GARY M1Tc|-|ELL11!!1!", I would kindly like to point them in the direction of the current IDW monthly comic book series...Mitchell already died there, and those comics are supervised by the movie producers. In other words, he ain't gonna be in this new movie, folks. For crying out loud.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 5:06 a.m. CST

    Hang on....

    by digginjim

    ... I though Nero destroyed the fleet in the first film? its sure to be Pike who goes... That synopsis makes no sense - 'and everything they stand for'... what? that is all.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 6:05 a.m. CST

    Sounds like shit! They should make war story instead.

    by tradeskilz

    Throw in some intergalactic politics, war, intrigue and moral choices. Could go any direction. Like Kirk and company is sent to observe a conflict between rival species. Turns out one species are pure evil bastards that are committing genocide but Kirk is forbidden to intervene. It would be like in the real world where the U.N forces in Afrika is forced to stand by and watch as genocide is happening right at their doorstep.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 6:32 a.m. CST

    Officially approved synopsis?

    by buggerbugger

    Who approved it, The Master of Every Fucking Cliché in the Book? It sounds like it was written by an overly-excitable 13-year-old fan overdosing on the back cover synopsis of every 'Star Trek' novel ever written. All that was missing was "...a galaxy on the brink of war..." But I guess it's hard for the galaxy to be on the brink of war with the Federation and Klingon fleets being destroyed. Or perhaps the lack of fleets is the only thing from stopping everything tipping over into all-out interstellar war? Maybe the next Starfleet/Klingon war will be an angry exchange via conference call?

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 6:36 a.m. CST

    I Wouldn't Entrust Bob Orci to Supervise an Arby's Franchise

    by Aquatarkusman

    Much less the stewardship of a 46-year sci-fi franchise.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 6:45 a.m. CST

    self destruct hack?

    by stvnhthr

    how else can one man take out the federation?

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 7:05 a.m. CST

    weapon of mass destruction?...didn't the first movie have that?

    by darthwaz1

    Fucking awful waste of a series. Just look at how creative & diverse the OS is story-wise.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 7:10 a.m. CST

    Honest Trailers does Prometheus, freaking hilarious!!

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    And so true.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 7:12 a.m. CST

    And ditto darthwaz1, I'm so fucking sick of WMD plots

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

  • starting off in a TOTALLY DIFFERENT 'universe' to begin with! As someone who likes the notion that our universe may be only one example in a larger 'multi-verse', this easily helps me to ignore the things I dislike about J.J.'s version. In other words, J.J.'s 2009 movie actually starts in a DIFFERENT universe to the original TOS one even BEFORE Nero 'alters his timeline'...and the 'old Spock' that's featured in it is merely one that existed in the universe that's 'altered', and is NOT the 'Spock' from the original TOS universe! Still with me? - so this can also mean that J.J.'s movie can just be imagined to have started off in say, the NEXT GENERATION's that's TOTALLY DIFFERENT to the original TOS universe to begin with...and also means that the 'old Kirk seen dying in the GENERATIONS movie is NOT the one from the universe that involves the original TOS series and pre-GENERATIONS movie! Works for me, but NEXT GEN fans can still include it in the overall same TREK universe if they wish...while still using this option to keep the 'J.J.-verse' totally seperate.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 7:19 a.m. CST


    by Jackson

    Weren't you guys the website that told me that the villain of this movie would be Gary Mitchell?

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 7:20 a.m. CST

    That should have said 'pre-GENERATIONS movieS'

    by Cervantes

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 7:21 a.m. CST

    Tribbles destroy the Fleet

    by FlyingToupee

    And then Kirk and Spock travel back in time to the 1930's and dress like gangsters(the Al Capone variety, not members of The Comrads).

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 7:27 a.m. CST

    @ matts71

    by Ray Tchoulakian

    You want a Star Trek film without any mention or location involving Earth? Watch Star Trek: Insurrection and tell me if that's something worth doing again.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 7:37 a.m. CST

    No philjacksonisthemasterofzen, you are not

    by Scarecrow237

    the only one who likes Star Trek more than Star Wars. The problem is that JJ Abrams DOESN'T LIKE STAR TREK. Yet he is making movies in the franchise.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 7:47 a.m. CST

    Can we please just know the director for Episode 7?

    by SithMenace

    Pretty sure he's as good as chosen anyway.

  • Like the show never left the air

  • And now some clueless fuckwit will try and defend this ERROR by claiming it's a neologism.

  • Fucking STINO... ST for Buffy fans.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 8:13 a.m. CST

    detonated the fleet

    by thommcg

    Whoever wrote that should themselves be detonated.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Seems like the

    by UltraTron

    illuminati have destroyed the fleet. They probably work for the Borg.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Charlie X Damnit!

    by jspidey2k

    I toll you goons from then beginning see? It's Charlie X.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 8:19 a.m. CST

    The wording of the synopsis is awful

    by Drsambeckett1984

    It's more like it has been translated into English from a foreign language. Detonating the fleet, does not work as a sentence.

  • Which will lead us into the inevitable showdown between Kirk and a rogue Klingon in the 3rd movie. This time they'll have to travel to this war-zone world to retrieve Spock's body, instead of the Genesis planet.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 8:37 a.m. CST

    scope of mission

    by Himbo

    I get that a smaller mission would be nice. In original Trek, Kirk had a hard time just preserving his ship and the life of his crew. Their 5 yr mission was exploration, not vengeance. But then you look at the movies: I - V'ger threatened to destroy ALL life on earth 2 - Khan had an apocalyptic weapon that could destroy ALL life on Earth 3 - Looking for Spock... positively quaint 4 - Probe threatens ALL life on Earth b/c of whales 5 - What does God need with a Starship? He could destroy ALL life on Earth 6 - Political thriller 7 - Energy wave threatens... Oh hell, I can't remember. 8 - Borg threaten ALL life on Earth 9 - Federation threatens to TRANSPLANT... transplant? all humanoid life on.... wherever. Then have mega maid steal the energy 10 - No idea. Anyway, most of the Trek films involve a threat to ALL LIFE on Earth. But the smaller scopes are a nice surprise sometimes. I really didn't care for Trek reboot. It was OK. But honestly? I think I only liked it as much as Trek 3. Casting was perfect. Story was weak. Prologue was powerful. Maybe the 2nd will be a tighter story, since it has less ground to cover. But frankly, I have no hopes for it.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 8:44 a.m. CST

    I mean Picard's clone

    by Autodidact

    I remember hating that movie but thinking Tom Hardy would probably go on to great things. Turns out I was wrong and he ended up doing a really stupid version of Bane.

  • in all known universes I'm afraid. There may be a universe where he looks slightly less retarded though.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 8:47 a.m. CST

    A re-taard. A what? A re-taard.

    by UltraTron

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 8:52 a.m. CST

    No, no...

    by Sandy

    Orci has stated that the comic series "Star Trek Ongoing" is canon and they've already dealt with Gary Mitchell in the first two issues. So, unless the lot of them are lying their collective asses off, it won't be Gary Mitchell.

  • You killed my Star Trek. Prepare to die.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Khan will be stupid

    by JJruinedTrek

    Here's the big problem I have with Khan in this movie. Abrams cleverly/not so cleverly got around recasting the entire movie and making Trek the he wants it to be. His plot device for explaining away inconsistencies (it's a different universe) only holds up for so many things though. Khan is not one of those things it holds up for. He says all of the inconsistencies from TOS can be explained by Nero coming through the black hole because that created an entirely new universe which explains why everyone looks a little different, acts a little different, and all the relationships are different. Okay fine, I buy that. Problem is, Khan and his crew were blasted into space loooong before Nero came through the black hole. Nothing would be different about Khan...not their appearance, not their attitudes, motivations, etc. If you bring Khan aboard in this movie, you're getting Ricardo Montalban from Space Seed. Which means you need to find a Hispanic, almost native american looking guy with that unusual accent. Casting Benedict Cumberpatch, as talented and awesome as he may be, for that role is downright retarded. He's the pastiest British dude out there. I'm sure acting wise he could absolutely pull it off, but it's not enough if you're going to remake an absolutely classic character. If you're determined to use Khan then you should definitely have pursued Benicio Del Toro hard or Javier Bardem. If Cumberpatch is Khan then it will confirm Abrams thinks everyone is stupid. He already created this moronic universe where all of the characters are idiots and cliches and he did it because he's selfish. That isn't the universe Gene Roddenberry created, much like post-Roddenberry Deep Space 9, Voyager, and Enterprise (and the movies) nothing about it is Star Trek. Much like all the Daniel Craig Bond movies, it's a fine stand alone movie, but don't stamp it as Star Trek. An entirely new generation thinks Star Trek is as Abrams created and will look back at TOS and TNG and think they are wrong.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 9:17 a.m. CST

    NOW, and NOW and then NOW. Did I happen to mention NOW.

    by 77AD

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 9:18 a.m. CST

    If it is Khan, then it could work ONLY if you do something like...

    by YackBacker

    Having Khan discovered by a malevolent, powerful race- maybe even the Q, who give Khan all the powers he needs to unleash holy hell on Earth-- even the power to be ambiguously gay and British (and therefore irresistible to hipster chicks).

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 9:21 a.m. CST

    any hope I had was killed by the phrase

    by coz

    explosive action thriller yeah, that's what I think of when I think Star Trek way to whore out the franchise what next, Uhura going to do a striptease to some classical music, such as Rump Shaker? is Kirk going to yell YIPPIE-KAI-YAY MOTHERFUCKER whilst blowing up the bad guys? is Spock going to have a completely superfluous emo dance number? I hate you bastards.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 9:23 a.m. CST

    So Star Trek by way of '24'

    by Mugato5150

    Open hailing frequencies, Urura, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME! Is this Bob Orci as writer again? God he sucks.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 9:24 a.m. CST

    This destruction is a lead in to the 3rd film...

    by don

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 9:27 a.m. CST


    by A_Banned_Apart

    I'm pulling for Charlie X myself, and I'm sure I wasn't the first when I suggested that a while back.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 9:29 a.m. CST

    bear with me...

    by don

    1st film- Vulcan is destroyed 2nd film starfleet is destroyed and I'm guessing a major character- Spock, Kirk or Bones, dies. I'll bet that the 3rd film will be apocalyptic in nature, and will end in Spock Prime sacrificing himself to reset the timeline. I'm also guessing the Guardian of Forever will be a major plot point...

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 9:30 a.m. CST

    The detonate clue gives away the villain, who is.....

    by iluvsyfy

    Gary Seven played by Sherlock-Cumberbatch

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Who in turns trains.......?.......during the.......

    by iluvsyfy

    Khan......Eugenic Wars Which means the 3rd film will feature...Khaaannn!

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 9:32 a.m. CST


    by Leto III

    Where are you getting this whole idea that J.J. "doesn't like" Star Trek from? He only said that he didn't watch it regularly every week back when it originally aired on NBC in the '60s. That's a pretty far cry from "not liking" something outright -- like many things from my own youth, I've since come to appreciate them as an adult, and very likely J.J. enjoys it at the very least on a more-than-casual basis nowadays. There's no evidence of him outright disliking the franchise, however.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 9:34 a.m. CST

    It's NOT Gary Mitchell...but it MIGHT be Sam Kirk!

    by Shannon Nutt

    Bob Orci has made it clear that the new comic book series is canon...Gary Mitchell has already appeared (and been killed) in the comic. However, Sam Kirk HAS appeared and they left him very much alive (he died in the original series). The synopsis above indicates that his crew is "the only family Kirk has left"...which hints to me it might be his brother. Oh, and I called this a LONG time ago, when everyone was still yelling "KHAN!" :)

  • ...All the starships have prefix codes which are accessible by the captains of each vessel- all you need is a psychotic captain to pull them all out- tell the ships to self-destruct, and -BOOM!

  • Can't wait! Bound to be awesome!

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 9:56 a.m. CST


    by Joe Cranford

    The fleet was destroyed by Big Jim McBob and Billie Sol Hurok.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Sounds like gibberish

    by BizarroJerry

    Is this really from Paramount? It doesn't make sense. Someone detonated everything Starfleet stands for? Huh?

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 10:14 a.m. CST

    What they should do to make Khan fit in the new timeline is

    by whopis01

    have the Enterprise detect a vessel floating in space. As they get closer they discover it is an old Earth vessel from the 21st century named "Botany Bay". Kirk immediately orders an away team to be put together (headed up by himself of course). Then Spock pipes up and says, "Captain, may I remind you of Starfleet General Order 16?. Since the Nero time travel incident and the subsequent destruction of most of Starfleet and the planet Vulcan, any Starfleet vessel discovering any ship from any other time period will be required to immediately destroy said ship." Kirk begins to respond with "There's no such order..." and then tapers off, looks sheepish for a moment, and then orders Chekhov to target the Botany Bay and fire Photon Torpedos. As the Botany Bay explodes, Kirk turns to a female Lieutenant and says "Lt. McGivers, please prepare a report for Startfleet regarding the discovery and subsequent destruction of a historical vessel".

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 10:16 a.m. CST

    GIF: (Shatner) KAAAAAAAAHN! (Pine) kahn...?

    by j

    Sounds like nonsense.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 10:16 a.m. CST

    When Starfleet is ashes

    by Brian Hopper

    you have my permission to die.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 10:23 a.m. CST

    What I don't get is Spock prime knows how to travel through time

    by Mugato5150

    It's a simple matter of flying into the sun. If he would do that to save the Earth (and the whales), why wouldn't he do that for Romulus, and/or Vulcan? Time travel in Star Trek sucks.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 10:27 a.m. CST

    The villain will probably turn out to be Kirks brother or something...


    You know, the one from the deleted scene.

  • I did not like Bane in TDKR. His plan is stupid, his mask is stupid looking... So insanely over designed and why do the straps cover his whole head? Why does it deliver pain gas and not Venom or at least fear gas (would mesh with BB/league of shadows, and the notion of using controlled fear to gain strength is fuckin cool)., his voice is idiotic (sounds like a character from one of those old Rudolph stop motion specials), he's Talias's little bitch. He just sucks compared to original comics Bane who is an awesome character that actually already fit Nolans sensibility, but they had to twist a few things to needlessly tie it into a weak ass trilogy where it's mostly Bruce Wayne sitting around in a suit or housecoat.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 10:31 a.m. CST


    by Wacky Packages

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 10:33 a.m. CST

    JJ Trek sucked the moment SABOTAGE came on the radio

    by Autodidact

    It was funny but I don't want winking knowing references anywhere in my Star Trek movie. Also, Kirk firing up a mid 1990s rap song is like a kid today firing up some Beethoven or Braahms.

  • Detonate means to set off something that is ready to explode, yes? Was the fleet primed to explode in some way? Im not generally a grammar nazi, but I think Ive seen it used at least three times recently in place of words like destroy, annihilate, crush, etcetera. Im reminded of the Wayans Bros. sketch of the two guys in jail talking to each other on payphones.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 10:41 a.m. CST

    what happened to the mission

    by animas

    to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no one has gone before? oh that's right.... orci lindelof abrams

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 10:43 a.m. CST

    @bizzarojerry; Thank you! Im right there with you

    by j

    I picked out 'detonate' myself. I couldn't decipher what Harry was trying to say, so I scrolled down to read the press release and it didnt get any better. The whole thing reads like a prophecy from the cylon hybrid.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Abrams Clearly Hates Trek

    by JJruinedTrek

    Abrams is a whore. He's using the Star Trek brand to make his own made up crappy scifi movies. He's not even close to Gene Roddenberry, he's not even Rick Berman. He clearly hates Star Trek because he didn't have the decency to use the really amazing universe already laid out, he had to make up his own universe and use a crappy plot device to stop using what GR created. Even the idiots who made Enterprise or Nemesis didn't have the nerve to trash what was already in place. They may have added crap to the legacy, but they worked with what was established. I don't know why you have to reimagine what was already in place? Why couldn't he just make a movie or series about a different fucking ship? In summary, Abrams is a whore who needs to leave Trek alone. And all the recent Trek fans, as in the fans who started watching Trek after Abrams abomination, need to fuck off and stop acting like he's adding to the legacy or would Roddenberry would be proud. GR would junk punch Abrams in his man business.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Space STDs

    by grassh0pperunit

    What if this "unstoppable force of terror" is actually every woman who has been infected with Herpes Type-K, which they contracted from a certain James Tiberius Kirk?

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Space STDs

    by grassh0pperunit

    What if this "unstoppable force of terror" is actually every woman who has been infected with Herpes Type-K, which they contracted from a certain James Tiberius Kirk?

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 10:46 a.m. CST


    by D.Vader

    I fired up some Beethoven as a kid. And your analogy is wrong. It'd be more like a kid firing up some Beatles.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 10:46 a.m. CST

    ...I should say chibi morphs of characters you know

    by j

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 11:01 a.m. CST

    @mugato5150 'Time travel in Star Trek sucks'

    by Brian Hopper

    Well, in Abrams' Shit Trek it sucks. But it doesn't suck when it's done right. And few shows/movies have done time travel better than Star Trek. The proof? City on the Edge of Forever, Yesterday's Enterprise, All Good Things... and many other episodes.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 11:03 a.m. CST

    He means time travel sucks in that...

    by D.Vader

    Its always shown to be somewhat easy and accomplishable and no one does it to save anyone or anything like that.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 11:34 a.m. CST

    They're just taking a wrecking ball to the whole ST universe

    by jimmy_009

    Fuck 'em.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST

    hardboiled wonderland you just runed Prometheus forever.

    by tradeskilz

    What little respect i had for the movie is not totally gone and dead.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 11:37 a.m. CST

    back to Earth, personal score to settle = JJ CRAPS AGAIN

    by kabong

    JJ, please die.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 11:38 a.m. CST

    ST need more zany comedy slapstick adventures.

    by tradeskilz

    It's what Star Trek is all about after all.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Need help on something...

    by Darth Macchio

    Is the word "pioneering" synonymous with "competent" or "adequate"? Ccause while he's not a hack nor terrible, nothing he has done in cinema has been remotely pioneering. I like to think I have a sharp eye for real hype and contrived hype and I've always felt that Abrahms work has suffered from a contrived hype. How is hype contrived? More difficult than it looks I would think so kudos to the Abrahm's/studio's Trek PR crew but there seems to be a narrative that news from this franchise is somehow earth shattering headline sorta stuff and it just isn't I'll admit potential bias on my part as I just cannot help but roll my eyes at all this manufactured excitement. Are you guys freaking out to see this? I don't mean do you 'want' to see it, I mean 'holy shit i want to see this NOW' freaking out? Not to say I don't want to see this - I do, most of us do I would imagine...but it's not ground breaking or earth shattering or even something I'm going to think about after watching most likely (I forgot most of JJs first trek flick days after seeing it). i'm not even avoiding spoilers which I'll do for anything im truly excited to see. It's basically a shallow and fun action movie and nothing more. too many characters to have any real development or genuine arcs (read: earned) but yet unquestionably entertaining. visually beautiful if a bit busy (i can take or leave the lens flares - it's corny and a cheap visual but not distracting enough to mention as an issue). Simply put, it's 'Trek' enough for me to be "Trek" even though I'll admit to not accepting it entirely (not that it matters what I accept or don't of course). It seems like they think we're all salivating and just in physical pain to find out any tiny infinitesimal aspect of production and I just don't see it. I don't see it here or ever hear conversation from my personal geek circles. It's a movie people want to see but not one they're dying over. Is it me? I think JJ and co may have gotten a bit delusional on their TV successes to think that just showing up automatically means greatness has entered the room. Like he can have the same hype and expectations of far greater directors and their work? I think not. Not until he commits to the screen the legacy of those he intends to ape without putting in the mileage. Greatness? no. Decent and adequate? Yes, and amply so. Abrahms needs to put the 800 lb gorilla ego aside and put in the brilliant work he seems to insist he has done (or can do) and then he can presume to be heir to the likes of the true greats. Abrahms is like a non-frenetic, thinking man's Michael Bay. No seizure edits or shaky cam but yet no real "there" there either although he does manage far better than Bay at character work. But not by nearly enough to be anything more than a b-list director.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 11:39 a.m. CST

    "the only family Kirk has left" = I don't give a rat's

    by kabong

    Boldly Go <p> or get out of the way.

  • and set off the self-destructs. <p> I hope that doesn't ruin the movie . . . more than JJ ruins Star Trek.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 11:54 a.m. CST

    The villain is John DeLancey!!! Q it up bitches!!!

    by kindofabigdeal

    Jar Jar Trek....meh That is all.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Why Can't Star Trek Go Back to Sucking Beyond All Measure of Suck?

    by Lesbianna_Winterlude

    Like it always has. Like it was always meant to.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Walter Koenig (Chekov from Star Trek) in new short film

    by steveola

  • And I don't see how it's like a kid today firing up the Rolling Stones. They just put out a new record and "rock and roll" is still (barely) a current thing. Rock and Roll is a cultural expression. In 250 years in a virtual utopia I doubt it will still be popular.

  • City on the Edge of Forever, and the others mentioned. But those are all odd anomalies (although The Guardian would have been taken over in a heartbeat by the Federation). But swinging around the sun and going to any time you want to, the fact that the Borg has the ability to travel through time but only used it once and don't get me started about how the whole Nexus thing makes no sense...time travel is best left to comedies where logic is less important.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 12:34 p.m. CST

    The villian is Sybok

    by FlyingToupee

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Uhura and Scotty will have an affair

    by FlyingToupee

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Kirk will shout "I NEED MY PAIN!"

    by FlyingToupee

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Kirk, Spock and McCoy will roast marshmelons

    by FlyingToupee

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 12:35 p.m. CST

    And sing "row, row, row your boat!" around a campfire

    by FlyingToupee

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Uhura will do a nudie dance in shadow

    by FlyingToupee

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST

    as the hardup men drool over the first women they've seen

    by FlyingToupee

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 12:37 p.m. CST

    in a generation

    by FlyingToupee

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 12:42 p.m. CST

    NOW That's what I call Star Trek! #2

    by John Baranick

    1. I'm a Loser-Beatles 2. Loser-Beck 3. It's the End of the World as We Know It-REM 4. and so on......

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 12:44 p.m. CST

    It has to be Q

    by CimmerianWarrior

    If it is someone from within, it will just be that he was a Q all along. Godlike powers in Star Trek = Q It can't be Mitchell, he's dead. Q cannot die, so good luck with that.

  • which is fine with me. hope it rocks.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Sounds hot... but the Klingon Fleet gone? Huh?

    by Lord Elric

    Betrayal from within...c'mon, tell me that Benedict Cumberbatch couldn't do that kind of role wonderfully? Great casting choice, there. The fleet all but wrecked. Just Kirk and crew. Good, good. Take away their support. Leave it between just them and the villain. But who's saying the Klingon fleet is gone? Did I miss something? Not that it looks like they'll have much to do here, anyways.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Star Trek was an ok movie, but that was another life!

    by whatevillurks

  • The comics are produced by Orci, just like was done for Star Trek 2009. You can hope it's Gary Mitchell all you want, but it's not.

  • Orci himself is on record as saying the comics tie directly into the new film again. So... not Gary Mitchell.

  • Last I checked, it was focused on ideas and character development, and less explosive action thriller where everything gets blown up. Fair enough. Once I realized it wasn't Star Trek, but just another mass-produced comic book, I was fine with it.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 2:23 p.m. CST

    You can take Star Trek into darkness, but you can't make it think

    by animatronicmojo

    Trying to parse this "approved" hyperbole is like munching on a horse apple: <BR> In THE Summer OF 2013, director FOR HIRE J.J. Abrams will deliver “Star Trek Into Darkness,” AN ACTION/THRILLER WITH EXPLOSIONS. <BR> When the crew of the Enterprise is called back home, they find THAT a force of terror from within their own organization, WHICH THEY FAILED TO RECOGNIZE OR STOP IN TIME, has DESTROYED the fleet, ALTHOUGH NOT THE IDEALS THAT IT STANDS FOR, NONETHELESS leaving THE FEDERATION in a state of crisis. <BR> With a score to settle THAT IS PERSONAL AS WELL AS PROFESSIONAL, Captain Kirk leads a manhunt to a war-zone IN AN ATTEMPT to capture one man WHO CAN BLOW ALL KINDS OF SHIT UP. <BR> As our heroes are propelled into an epic BATTLE of life and death (WHICH CERTAINLY IS NOT A GAME AND LIKELY HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH CHESS CONSIDERING THE EXTRODINARY PHYSICAL, AS OPPOSED TO INTELLECTUAL, POWER OF THIS ADVERSARY), love will be challengING, friendships will END, and sacrifices must be made for the crew, WHICH KIRK HAS COME TO REGARD AS HIS FAMILY IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY LIVING BLOOD RELATIONS.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Tyler Perry's Star Trek: Into Media's Darkness

    by ironburl


  • Nov. 27, 2012, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Treknobabble vs. NuTreknobabble

    by animatronicmojo

    Shit happens because "Red Matter" when "ignited" creates a "Black Hole" that sucks you back in time. Seriously, this bottom-feeding level of pseudo-quasi-scientifiquackery makes TNG technobabble, with its firomactal drives and isopalavial interfaces, sound good.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Just noticed the Avengers uses Star Trek's font.

    by UltraTron

  • Just bought the First 6 films in a VHS boxset for 20 bucks. Watching it with my girlfriend, we just started Part 2. Fuck a new KHAN!

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Detonate The Fleet will be the new Nuke The Fridge.

    by Skraggo

    I've got to believe that the author of that... "synopsis"... was probably trying to think of the word DECIMATE. ??? Not much better, but at least it makes some kind of sense. But, yeah the whole thing sounded like something a junior high schooler would write during study hall.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Star Coinkydink

    by animatronicmojo

    OK, so, instead of showing Spock Prime the destruction of Vulcan from Nero The Romulan Miner's ship- where he might actually get to see Spock experience the pain of all that, and then kill him or go on torturing him- Nero maroons SpockP on Delta Vega, a magical just-made-up planet so close to Vulcan that you can see it blow up real good, but not so close that there would be any gravitational waves or fragging of asteroids from the sucked-into-a-black-hole-made-by-red-matter destruction of Vulcan. <BR> Aaaaaaanyway, after Vulcan is destroyed, Spock the Quinto jettisons Kirk onto the nearest planet, which also happens to be the magical Delta Vega, and, as if by magic, Kirk's pod just happens to land on this 200,000,000 square mile planet a stone's throw from the cave where SpockP has been holing up. Fortunately, if it were not for that giant fast-moving cartoon monster that chases Kirk directly into this cave, they might never have found each other. <BR> At this point, all seems lost, but fortunately SpockP magically knows that just a little up the road is Comic Relief Scotty, who seems unaware and/or unconcerned about the complete destruction of all Federation starships and Vulcan up in the sky a few moments ago. Aaaaaand 'cuz Funny Scotty is such a slap-happy Scottish miracle worker, he magically beams them light years across space onto the Enterprise, where he hilariously gets trapped in the ship's brewery. <BR> Gosh! Who is not salivatin' at the glands for more such golden nuggets of... WRITE-ING!

  • My guess is that this is explosive [sic] language in a marketing / PR release, not a literal description of a plot point. It just sounds so much better than "They get home and find that some jerk has really put the cat among the pigeons at Starfleet."

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 3:24 p.m. CST

    That. Just. Sounds. HORRIBLE.

    by Detached

    I mean- WOW, but that's bad. Do they WORK at trying to come up with crap?

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Almost like if Taxi Driver had the tag line 'You talkin ta me?!'

    by UltraTron

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 3:45 p.m. CST

    I'm gonna vomit dilithium crystals.

    by UltraTron

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 3:55 p.m. CST

    @kremzeek: I don't care if Orci was under fucking oath.

    by tailhook

    I don't believe a word any of them say. In this capacity, they're PR people and nothing more and their only interest is to obfuscate whats going to come, not spill their guts 6-12 months out. Why people think their job is to tell them whats going to happen I have no idea. The only person that makes sense given that synopsis is Gary Mitchell, and I frankly don't give a flying fart whether its Mitchell or Kahn. But about the only way you could shoehorn Kahn into that story is if the Botany Bay drifted into the same space as the Enterprise went through in WNMHGB and Kahn got the god powers. But Kahn certainly wasn't 'one of their own', and where is personal tie-in to Kirk to a man that was born 250 years before Kirk? You somehow have to get him off the Botany Bay, give him powers to decimate fleets, and give him a personal tie-in. Its going to be Gary Mitchell. Its literally the only person that makes sense within the alternate universe conceit because events from the first film have to influence those in the second. Why, because the Romulan showed up, does shit hit the fan in this film? Its because Kirk wasn't there to stop Gary Mitchell and his powers grew beyond all ability to control and he took his formerly repressed anger at Kirk out on Starfleet? Why do you think they need a fucking Volcano to kill him with?

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 5:33 p.m. CST

    It's Gary Mitchell - picture of Dr. Dehner

    by radii

  • A Quote : " A few months ago, physicist Harold White stunned the aeronautics world when he announced that he and his team at NASA had begun work on the development of a faster-than-light warp drive. His proposed design, an ingenious re-imagining of an Alcubierre Drive, may eventually result in an engine that can transport a spacecraft to the nearest star in a matter of weeks — and all without violating Einstein's law of relativity. We contacted White at NASA and asked him to explain how this real life warp drive could actually work. " So I told you so.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 6:05 p.m. CST

    The comics

    by CaptainBass

    Anyone reading them? I noticed that in the last issue the Enterprise's Nacelles were drawn to look like the TOS movie Enterprise. If the comics are canon, does this mean we'll have a remodelled Enterprise...? Detonated: for shame, you utter idiots...

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Good lord Harry needs an editor

    by Mack

  • Maybe he'll make that instead of Blade Runner II?

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 7:57 p.m. CST

    As long as it's better than Dr. Who I'll watch it.

    by TheKiller7

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 8:38 p.m. CST

    "DARKNESS!!!!!" - Rick James

    by obijuanmartinez

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 9:28 p.m. CST

    So Jim's Mother and Brother both die in this?

    by Mace Tofu

    Or did they die in the first one? So confusing these time travel stories.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 10:25 p.m. CST


    by Norm

    This sounds exactly like the BSG opening. Blow up the entire fleet. It's boring. One ship is boring. At least have the fleet die in a real battle. I'm sick of secret weapons and tricks.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 11:24 p.m. CST

    The Villian

    by davidt

    When the crew of the Enterprise is called back home, they find an unstoppable force of terror from within their own organization has detonated the fleet and everything it stands for, leaving our world in a state of crisis. With a personal score to settle, Captain Kirk leads a manhunt to a war-zone world to capture a one man weapon of mass destruction.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 11:25 p.m. CST

    The Villian

    by davidt

    Yup, it's the redshirt, Cupcake.

  • Now if only cryogenic hibernation were a guaranteed and viable option for life extension, I'd freeze my own candy ass, cause it will probably still be a decade or possibly a century if a real warp drive were to be feasible in the not far off future. Perhaps Sir Ridley can use these new findings for the starships in The Forever War movie? In the book they use collapsars (wormholes). A little tweaking of the interstellar propulsion method in the film versus the book would be cool if it were based around cutting edge science theory.

  • Nov. 28, 2012, 3:44 a.m. CST

    Bruce Greenwood.

    by John Baker

    Less talky. More beepy.

  • Nov. 28, 2012, 5:48 a.m. CST

    lv_426 I wan't a Forverwar movie so much it's driving me crazy.

    by tradeskilz

    I read the book so many times.

  • Starfleet is not supposed to be the enemy. Next Generation had a season cliffhanger where an alien race was infiltrating Starfleet as doppelgangers, and the Enterprise had to travel back home to uncover the mystery. The season cliffhanger was never addressed in the following season; in fact, the whole storyline was forgotten altogether because Roddenberry hated it.

  • I guess once that 9 minute intro hits, we'll really get some decent info. Otherwise, I'm skeptical that the new one will be a quantum leap over the old one.

  • Nov. 28, 2012, 1 p.m. CST

    Abrahms is the thinking man's Michael Bay...

    by Darth Macchio

    Is that too harsh? I never watched Lost so have no pre-cinema loyalty to Abrahms. Though I will say I did prefer his Mission Impossible 2nd sequel to John Woo's first MI sequel (though I think Woo is a much better director overall).

  • Nov. 28, 2012, 2:02 p.m. CST

    The ultimate battle - Kirk vs. a Gorn.

    by Smerdyakov

    Boulders away.

  • Nov. 28, 2012, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Re : lv_426 Warp Drive

    by Real Deal

    Well certainly just because they can come up with the propulsion end of things there's all sorts of other things to come up with yet to make a viable warp driven starship. What material would you make it out of ( one that would be stronger than any space craft we use now )? How would it navigate? How would you protect the ship from debris in interstellar space? There's a few other things to work out so yes it will probably be awhile even if they have a viable warp drive. However this is an exciting start!

  • Nov. 28, 2012, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Would rather have TNG back...

    by Dan

    Abrams would have totally won be over if he hadn't been so damn needlessly radical in going young. The Enterprise should have stayed the same from the original, with some logical tweaking. No need to look like an IKEA store. The design of the Enterprise is just not appealing. Crazy editing, and shaky cam. i still enjoy the flick...despite its moments of stupid.

  • Nov. 28, 2012, 8:24 p.m. CST

    The destruction described could only be achieved...

    by NoHubris someone on the inside working with something or someone of immense power from without (since it can't be Gary Mitchell).