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Will Joseph Gordon-Levitt Play Batman In JUSTICE LEAGUE?
Nordling here.
Drew McWeeny at HitFix seems to think it's a possibility. According to him, JGL will definitely be making an appearance as the new Batman in JUSTICE LEAGUE, if his sources are to be believed. It makes sense. Christopher Nolan's Batman Trilogy has made insane amounts of money for Warner Brothers, and they aren't ready to leave that series quite yet. Drew states that it's a distinct possibility that at least one other character may be returning as well - Jim Gordon, perhaps? Drew speculates on a possible end credits scene in MAN OF STEEL that would bring the two sagas together. Go read it.
I'd have no problem if this were true. Obviously THE AVENGERS has changed the game in how these movies are made, and Warner Brothers would be wise to take a page or several out of Marvel's book. It's very interesting to me that if this is true, this would be a merging of these worlds - Zach Snyder's MAN OF STEEL and Nolan's Batman Trilogy, and that Gordon-Levitt wouldn't be playing Bruce Wayne at all. And yet... I'm also a little disappointed that there wouldn't be other versions of Batman out there. I'd love to see a different take on the character in a few years - something along the lines of the animated series, or just something different cinematically that we haven't seen before. JUSTICE LEAGUE would be different than what Christopher Nolan did, but it would also want to separate itself from something like THE AVENGERS.
This may be speculation or it may be accurate. I tend to trust Drew's sources on this matter - he's been right way more than he has been wrong - and so I'm sure this has some degree of possibility to it. What I'd be REALLY curious to know is if this sets up a live-action THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS somewhere down the road, with an older Christian Bale returning to the cape. Dare to dream, huh?
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To be honest. Though JGL is alright.
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If it's supposed to establish continuity, somehow rename his character to Dick Grayson and that'd be awesome.
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SOURCES SAY THAT LEONARDO DICAPRIO IS *THIS* CLOSE TO SIGNING ON FOR MARTIAN MANHUNTER
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Nov. 26, 2012, 10:11 p.m. CST
Make a Justice League movie without Bruce Wayne as Bats and they can eat a dick!
by juice willis
Seriously, fuck that shit.
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Nov. 26, 2012, 10:12 p.m. CST
I'm down with it. he's a good actor he really made a name for himself I can accept him as Batman
by NorthTronic
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Nov. 26, 2012, 10:12 p.m. CST
Kinda wanna see how Snyder's Man of Steel turns out...
by Ian Masterson
before I get too excited for the massive tentpole picture.
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Nov. 26, 2012, 10:13 p.m. CST
Sorry, but JGL is too young and (physically) slight to carry this role...If they can't convince Bale to return, then get Viggo Mortensen.
by Amadeo Zeller
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Nov. 26, 2012, 10:14 p.m. CST
They Need to Just Reboot Batman.... JGL can play him but not as John Blake
by ass clown
I want to see a new Batman suit too that follows the comics a little more. Tim Burton was creative with the black rubber thing but lets see something different. Also, the NEED to bring the Joker back. I am having Joker withdrawls and need a new fix. Heath Ledger was amazing but he does not own that role. The comics didnt stop printing because of his death and the same should follow with film interpretations of the character.
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Nov. 26, 2012, 10:15 p.m. CST
I don't want a Justice League movie to exist in Nolan's Batverse
by juice willis
One more time with feeling...fuck that shit!!!!!!!
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WILL ANYONE GIVE A FUCK???
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Nov. 26, 2012, 10:15 p.m. CST
Sources saying Miley Cyrus is one signature away from being...
by Optimus Prime
Bat - Mite! Woo hoo! On a serious note, I love JGL and all but a non Bruce Wayne Batman in Justice League is fucking stupid. WOULDN'T be surprising on DC's part, but WOULD be fucking stupid.
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Nov. 26, 2012, 10:16 p.m. CST
Seriously doubt this will happen. Can't have a random guy called John Blake in a Justice League movie. Is WB that stupid?
by hank henshaw
Hahahahha *snif*, who am I kidding? Of course they are that stupid. Still, hard to believe they wont have Bruce Wayne as Batman. Is Gordon-Levitt's jaw strong enough to wear the bat-cowl and pull it off?
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Never.
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Can you imagine what's going to happen when they make a shitty Justice League movie or another Batman film without him? Good comic book films are far and between. The Avengers is just visual masturbation for fanboys and people who like visual effects (in this case, neither is more intelligent than the other) They made a total piece of shit film the second highest grossing film ever. Congrats. And you wonder why Hollywood churns out films with no plot on a regular basis.
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Nov. 26, 2012, 10:19 p.m. CST
Bale is a great actor but I never liked him as Bruce Wayne
by nephilim138
Didn't have black hair for starters and just seemed more in a daze than I would have liked to have seen.
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He's a good actor but I agree, he's wayyy too slight and boyish for the Batsuit. DARK KNIGHT RISES was a shitty conclusion that painted Warner Bros into a corner, leaving them very little room for any Marvel-style series crossovers. The one thing that I HATE about Nolan's series is how little time Batman actually spends being Batman. He barely shows up in the third film, and then he gives up and leaves the keys to some rookie cop he just met. Lousy.
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Batman plays the role of the wise old sage and general of the group imo. He's like Cap. He directs traffic and handles the complicated details. To have the role played by JGL as a fresh ,green new Batman wouldn't be right.
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Just start new with an entirely new cast playing all the roles. So much cheaper to do and we will get some really new takes on the characters. I also say re-cast Green Lantern too. Nothing against Reynolds... I would just like to see all the films start all over again. Exciting times lay ahead.
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Just sayin'.
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Nov. 26, 2012, 10:23 p.m. CST
@Spaghettiwall: heck, it's not like the highest grossing film ever is that great.
by hank henshaw
I mean, Avatar IS visual masturbation and nothing else at all, and it's number one.
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Nolan's universe left very little room for aliens, or anything scifi for that matter. That's why he chose the villians he did. I don't like the idea of hem merging his batman universe with Justice League. I think Justice LEague is far less filmable than the Avegners anway. batman and superman nver really fit together after the silver age.
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Nov. 26, 2012, 10:30 p.m. CST
If Bruce Wayne is not Batman in a JLA movie it is not a JLA movie.
by dixieflyer
peroid.
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All of this is moot.
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anyone noticed the Batman Beyond-ish type action figures for the DKR right before the movie came out? I thought JGL would be wearing that at the end of the movie.
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Sure, you can have JGL play "Batman" but without Bruce Wayne you can't really do the JLA justice. no pun intended.
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Nov. 26, 2012, 10:37 p.m. CST
Will the CW's Hood....uh....Arrow, be on the team as well?
by Shermdawg
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I certainly wouldn't watch it.
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It's the same kind of "broken hero" cynical fanboys find so attractive these days.
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Nov. 26, 2012, 10:41 p.m. CST
I would have liked to see the Wachowskis take over Batman
by AntonStark
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Nov. 26, 2012, 10:48 p.m. CST
No DC should not go the route that Marvel did with 'The Avengers'
by mistergreen
Nolan understood the DC universe should be more grounded with story development while Marvel is going out into space and there was zero story in the Avengers. It was fun but no substance.
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love jgl but idk about batman. i thought that lone ranger hammer dude was gonna be batman?
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Because WB might get cold feet and embargo Batman from Justice League for AT LEAST he first movie. If it bombs, then it won't taint Batman solo projects.
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he just sat around for months while gotham was under threat of a nuclear bomb? no, these two universes don't belong together unless superman was off on another cosmic adventure...along with green lantern, wonder woman, and any other JL hero that could have helped gotham out.
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Also? Megan Fox is playing Catwoman. And Damon Lindelof's 1952 is really Star Wars: Episode VII. We know this because George Lucas once wrote Damon a note saying how much he liked Lost.
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Nov. 26, 2012, 11:08 p.m. CST
I would prefer this, by far, to a rebooted Bruce Wayne Batman
by Raptor Jesus
JGL would bring something new to the franchise. Let's take a break from this being like Bond where we have a new actor every so many years playing the same character. This makes Batman even more legendary.
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This film is supposed to launch a new Batman franchise. Nothing against JGL... but Blake as Batman sucks balls. He couldnt hold his own in TDKR... what makes this man worthy to carry on the mantle of Batman when he couldnt take on 3 mercs that Wayne handled with ease? Fuck no.
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assuming they have a new batman and pull of the JL movie with some global/cosmic threat to the earth, how would you feel about the final scenes of JL showing each hero returning to their respective homes only to find that each of their arch-nemeses has taken over or succeeded in some plot during their absence? like the global threat was all a distraction for the bigger plan that involves all the big bads from each comic book. we get a series "oh shit" moments that lead into the individual movies for each hero and keep all the worlds tied together as people salivate for JL2.
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Blake wouldn't really be able to measure up to Wayne in subsequent films even if he did take up the cape. All of Wayne's money is gone at the end of DKR so there would have to be some kind of contrivance to inject Robin with some funds. It was more a symbolic "now you are Gotham's protector" moment and don't think it should be interpreted as "this will be sequel matereal" as i think this Batman series is over and should stay over or else it would undermine the catharsis of the story. (I really liked DKR as a film and don't get the level of hate it gets, don't get bogged down in the details just follow the characters and their journey I say)
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Nolan intentionally created a very real take on the superhero genre which was cool and interesting. But having those movies exist in a world where Superman and Green Lantern are real retroactively just creeps me the fuck out. Please don't go that way.
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Make movies out of their graphic Novels like they have been doing with their animated features, those are great. Like New Frontier, or go ballsy and do something like Kingdom Come, bring back Michael Keaton as Batman haha!
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Nov. 26, 2012, 11:21 p.m. CST
@Herc lol. Yeah ask LV about 1952 being Star Wars. I'd bet he has a theory about the JL movie as well.
by peter
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Some of McWeenie's other big "scoops": Seth Rogen's Green Lantern is not going forward Bradley Cooper is a lock to play Green Lantern
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Nov. 26, 2012, 11:22 p.m. CST
oh and you're HIGH OFF YOUR ASS if you really think JGL will appear in the JL movie. NO WAY IT'LL HAPPEN!!
by peter
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I like the idea. JGL is one of the better actors out there, and if it leaves the door open for him turning crazy over the course of a few movies then ultimately being taken down by old Bruce Wayne, even better. He'd have to be more of a brawler than a ninja or whatever, as he obviously doesn't have Bruce's training, but it'd be interesting to watch him try to maintain all that Bat equipment and shit, keep up his dual life - and presumably his new day job - while also keeping those pesky orphans upstairs from discovering the batcave. Oh and deal with uber-ancient Alfred's constant put downs and remarks about how he's not nearly as good at this as Bruce.
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You forgot to tell everyone that you'll be here all night and to try the veal.
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Nov. 26, 2012, 11:30 p.m. CST
Bruce got his money back and used it turn his house into the orphanage
by Matthew
Lucious Fox even said you could prove fraud but it'll take time, something like that. WB doesn't know what they are planning to do, so all these rumors could be true, but the WB does't even know what they will do next. Love or hate Nolan the man had a plan. WB has no idea or plan what they will do. If Man of Steel is good and does well, then I imagine whatever Zack Synder wants to do will be the plan moving forward
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Nolan's Batman means a batman who is 0% detective. So much for a decent comic book adaptation. Fuck you WB.
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You crazy kids...lol. Look, I think Joseph Gordon-Levitt is super talented. Would make a great post Nolan Robin. In fact, the whole Robin setup is likely the best part of TDNR. It's surely one of the few actual Batman elements in the movie. But that's it. Let's get Dini in one of the driver's seats for the next one. So far, he and his team have come the closest to getting Batman in non print media. The animated series...the last 2 games. Perfect.
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Nov. 26, 2012, 11:48 p.m. CST
Makes more sense for him to play Robin (his middle name in TDKR).
by planetran_fan
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There's no way Warner would use a non-Bruce Wayne Batman in a JLA project. Their marketing department wouldn't allow it.
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Nobody at Warner Bros.-including Christopher Nolan-understands what is,hands down,their most popular character. Batman is not a fucking suit that gets handed down to random cop who kind of sorta has the name Robin. Batman is the personification of Bruce Wayne's rage and loss. Batman does not "pass the torch"(and yes,I know that shitty storyline has been explored in shitty comics...doesnt mean it was a good idea then or now) Batman does not abandon Gotham to go fuck Catwoman in Italy while Alfred sips coffee and watches from the sidelines. Batman DOES NOT QUIT. EVER. I was really hoping for a reboot(with someone like Paul Dini writing the script,and a Batsuit that doesnt look like it belongs to the Michelin Man) but if this is the way they go....fuck this movie before it ever even gets started. This is not the way to go WB. Just reboot the Bat when its time for JLA(BTW...I fully expect them to drop the A-wouldnt want to offend the international audience now would they? Jesus...)
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Nov. 27, 2012, 12:08 a.m. CST
"This may be speculation or it may be accurate" . . no shit? In other news: it may rain tomorrow, or it might not.
by Sluggolicious
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CONFIRMED BY WB? And I have no problem with JGL being Batman as long as he is playing Bruce Wayne. I'm sorry, but Justice League without the REAL Batman would be stupid.
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Wasnt Gina Carano spotted on set,and wasnt there a pic on twitter of her and the guy playing Superman hanging out in a car together? Was that officially debunked and proven to be nothing,or is there a chance she's going to pop up after the credits as Wonder Woman? That makes more sense to me than having JGL appear as Fake-Batman.
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He's not built for it, his character doesn't have the background or training. That entire handoff was pointless and probably driven by suits.
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JLA Villain: POW! Batman: (Crumples to the ground, doesn't stir until after the end credits)
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Nov. 27, 2012, 12:23 a.m. CST
I think he could act the part easily, I just don't know if he can bulk up for it.
by Randy
The dude can act, no fucking question about it, he just keeps proving himself with every new film. Hell, he even looks like Batman in the face and stuff, but he's only like 5'9" and is pretty damn skinny. He would have to get like 200 pounds, wear boots and so on. However, he's not Bruce Wayne, so maybe he doesn't have to do that stuff. Idk, probably be better if they just start Batman fresh.
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Jackson's return to middle earth hits in new hyper-reality 48 fps. Film one, TUJ, will consign Avatar to a distant second and by the time the trilogy ends Cameron's film will be fourth.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 12:31 a.m. CST
The other Nolan actor that returns has to be Bale. If JGL hangs out with the JL you have to show that he learned everything there is to know about the job from the real Batman!
by MariusXe
You just have to. If not, Bruce comes across as the lesser version, if Blake Bats just teaches himself everything and the goes to fight aliens.
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jobacca's got it right; Batman is a part of Bruce Wayne's damaged psyche, no one else's. I love Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy as I love 'What If?' comic, but the 'Batman: The Animated Series' is a much better representation of the true character. That being said, if JLA chooses to go with JGL-Bat, and he fails or dies, forcing Bale-Bat to return, I wouldn't be too thrilled but I'd go along.
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are within the same continuity? Is this new? I seem to recall under George Miller, WB had clearly stated that JLA will not be related to the current Batman films or Man of Steel. In effect my understanding is that there would be two actors playing superman; Henry Cavill in the stand alone films and some other guy in JLA. What changed? Is it due to Marvel's success with their crossover properties? Anyone know?
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Crisis on Infinite Earths? We could see The NolanVerse and BurtonVerse get wiped out by the AntiMonitor. A Mocap Chris Reeve can join the fight alongside Henry Cavill and WB can pick and choose whatever elements they want to keep as their universe is reshaped.
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Batman is out of place in the Justice League. Every other member is a superpowered god. What makes him a valuable addition to the the team is his mastermind/genius and monetary resources. Robin Dick (or whatever that little pussie's name was) wouldn't survive for two minutes against the scum of the streets. And good fuckin' riddance while you're at it.
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It's time to reboot. If there was a way to take back that awful third movie I'd love to see the franchise continue, I wish I had back all the anticipation I had after seeing the second film. But we can't, it's out there, the only way to pretend #3 didn't happen is to pretend none of it did.
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They'd reboot Batman and leave Nolan's trilogy alone. Ideally they'd wait a while before doing that but it sounds like they want to get the Avengers... I mean Justice League... going sooner rather than later so there's not enough time to let Nolan's films incubate out of our collective psyche. The new Batman film doesn't need another origin story. Viewers already know Batman's origin we don't need to see it again. Instead, start the story post-Robin when Dick Greyson has become Nightwing. Let JGL play Nightwing if they want, he's fine. But not Batman. Oh, and there should be lots of tension between Batman and Nightwing because Bruce never thinks Dick can handle the big stuff on his own. And for god's sake stop using Catwoman. And don't ever use a villain as lame and shallow as Bane, ever, ever again. And hire someone smart to consult on your story and characterization so you don't fuck it up. Like David S. Goyer has proven he can do. And if you're going to hook him up with Superman, please make sure they don't get along at first. That's critical. Fuck - WB should just hire mne to produce this shit.
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Close up shot of a newspaper stating that the Wayne Foundation won it's court battle to recoup it's fraudulent losses. The camera pans back to show that it is Lucius Fox reading the paper. He then places a call to Alfred, informing him that he will be receiving a healthy check(if memory serves, he was the beneficiary of Bruces' loot at the end of TDKR). Alfred, having assumed the same role with John Blake that he had with Bruce (mentor/assistant) informs Blake that they will be upgrading the armory. If you want to throw the Nolanites a bone, have Alfred send a telegram or something to Bruce in whatever country he is in letting him know whats up. You dont even need Bale. Have the camera behind a Bale double and zoom it over his shoulder to show the telegram wit the salutation 'Master Bruce'. There you go. It would take up all of like 3 minutes of screen time, gives a fairly logical explanation, and even gives the nod to Bruce Wayne. Then, from there, in order to link him up to the JL, you could have BlakeMan and Gordon on the roof of the GCPD, with the BlakeSignal on and something flies i front of it. (GL, Supes, whoever). BlakeMan decides to investigate and that leads him to what will become the JL. I'm assuming that this movie would be the formation of the JL, not about an already established one. A least, that's what I would do.
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...things have been going great for your career. That could all change in a 'Flash'.
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Absolutely critical. The two characters are polar opposites--Superman symbolizes hokey American optimism. Batman symbolizes stark American realism. Superman is a hero to be admired; Batman is a necessary evil. But they both come to respect and even admire each other. Having these two characters play off of each other CORRECTLY would instantly make this a superior movie to The Avengers (which--while I liked it--was essentially soulless and pedestrian every step of the way).
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Nov. 27, 2012, 1:06 a.m. CST
Damn shame that Dwayne McDuffie isn't with us anymore...He'd be the perfect choice to oversee Warners/DC's properties...
by Amadeo Zeller
He could be what Joss Whedon is to Marvel and what Mark Millar is to Fox.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 1:08 a.m. CST
Get Jon Hamm a trainer. We need a refreshed Batman series.
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
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Aside from the fact that Nolan took a great sequel that was the Dark Knight and created an unwatchable Dark Knight Rises film that pretty much took every unchangeable element of the entire Batman mythos and somehow still appealed to even hardcore fanboys, now you don't want to allow the sleeping dog to lie??? How can anyone be OK with JGL being written as a guy who was completely made up with the birth name of "Robin" who isn't quite Batman and not quite even Robin either?? Keep that guy away from any Justice League movie and get the right guy for the role asap. I'd rather see someone like Michael C Hall take over the role because if they want to do a JL movie justice, they must know that it has to revolve around the basic premise that Batman is smarter than the most powerful heroes on earth yet still has a grudge over the fact that he has no super powers. If this is true the good news is I won't have to get my hopes up at all that it will be worthwhile and save $27.50 on seeing it at the theater and another 19.95 on buying the DVD.
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Nightwing, maybe, but not the next Batman. Besides, they already referred his character to a certain side-kick. I want to see a new Bruce Wayne/Batman, anyway.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 1:24 a.m. CST
Robin can barely lead the Teen Titans, wearing the bat suit doesn't make him Batman
by Domi'sInnerChild
What, is Rhode going to step in from Stark in Avengers 2? Maybe Superman fakes his death and Kypto can handle the heavies.
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1) Nolan's Batman universe does not allow for the possibility of superhumans; it's explicitly a more realistic take on Gotham City. 2) The ending of TDKR was a THEMATIC CAPSTONE, you fucking WB idiots, not a teaser scene for a new franchise.
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I second beetlegeuse's comment. I hated what happened with all three of those movies, though I give shouts out to Kelsey Grammar who was fantastic as Beast and to Thomas Haden Church who was solid as Sandman. I feel like the problem that unites all three of these sad, sad movies is that the filmmakers all chose to contrive awful, soap opera-like material with vague connection to the previous movies, rather than work with the central parts of the characters. All of those movies fuck up high stakes characters and their motivations. For X-Men: Last Stand it was due to Bryan Singer and Matthew Vaughn leaving them high and dry. So, it's ok they mercy killed Cyclops so he could appear in Superman Returns, only to be a different kind of myopic character. For Spider-Man 3 it was race to the bottom to inspire a Venom sequel and sell toys. They couldn't manage the Goblin arc and and just went to full "sell toys mode." The Dark Knight Rises was an especially non-sensical film where Batman was barely Batman and awful faux arcs from the first movie were completed in trite, meaning-erasing ways. I have never liked Harry more than when he got super pissed at this movie. Every down and out, old or broken Batman I have read comes to rely on trickery, technology or surrogates (allies or drones). The Batman we got was half-brain dead basket case. Batman is a planner, not a first responder by definition. I don't need this movie to be a replication of a comic book, but actually work with the character. This brings me to John Blake. I found myself being so bored with this character and reaching the point of not caring anymore during his highly inconsequential fight next to that truck. It's like a movie is called Luke Skywalker and you see Luke hobble from one room to the other while this rando dude fights some boring punk. Being wounded - fine. Boring up-and-comer plot thread? Yuck. If I wanted that I'd watch the backdoor pilot for Daredevil from the '80s. JGL is a great actor, but this character was super boring and annoying. Then of course the Robin name drop and the fake death at the end were twin turds pretending to be the periods at the end of a sentence. The only way I could see JGL being involved in a Justice League movie is if in a teaser it's a file picture of John Blake, who has been killed in someway, and Gordon taps Bruce Wayne on the shoulder and goes, "the city needs you." To which, Bruce Wayne slurs his war cry ..., "RacheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllLLL!"
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This Must Happen.
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She did a great job in her movie and deserves more opportunities. Oh, and she's really hot.
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JGL is great actor, and I'm always amazed that little Tommy is a natural action star, but this is dumb fan-boy wet dream at best. #1. The Justice League just doesn't fit into the real-world style Nolan's Batman set. It would be a total schism of genre. #2. As much as I like JGL he's no Batman, and JL hinges on Bruce Wayne; he's the J Edgar Hoover that keeps all the other heroes in line. #3. Dark Knight Rises was a natural finalé. Anything after it would be clunky and forced, like a sequel to Toy Story 3. For a Justice League movie to work it would need a fresh Batman. I'm looking forward to a more "Comic Book" style, in the spirit of Paul Dini's animated series, or better yet, The Arkham games mold.
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It was called The Dark Knight Rises. Bruce Wayne hangs up his cape, Batman passes into legend, eight years later Batman returns, has the shit kicked out of him by a musclebound bald guy and eventually finds the strength to beat him. Also, a nuclear bomb goes off.
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This would be like breaking its legs before it left the stable.
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I love this idea!
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That's the dumbest theory I've ever heard.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 2:09 a.m. CST
Granted this is coming from someone is is 6'5" so I think most all actors are unrealistically tiny, but isn't he a little small to be playing Bats??
by RedJester
How about Armie Hammer? He's the proper height, build, and almost got the job last time around? If we can have a blond Bond, we can have a blond Bats.
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I know it's a little out there, but... what if they slot in a little reveal, where John Blake finds out his parents were the Flying Graysons? I mean, besides a lazy motive behind his career in crime fighting and a talking point with his new buddy, his orphan-childhood didn't really seem to serve a purpose. Would it be THAT sacreligious to slightly altered the timeline, so he doesn't remember his parents death? His name is so stock-standard, it'd almost be too easy to explain it away as a state-nominated title. It'd also set the story up pretty nicely for an eventual passing back of the torch to Bruce Wayne down the line... But hey. What do I know.
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I'd like to add that I really like JGL as an actor, but he's no Batman.
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Anyone assuming he could be a credible Batman replacement, really doesn't know the character very well. It needs to be an alpha male, capable of physically fighting his way through big groups of people. JGL may be a fair actor and a good support, but he strikes me more as someone who you'd push in a puddle and take their pocket money off them.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 2:21 a.m. CST
I grew up on the Clark-Bruce relationship in comics but...
by Julius Dithers
I'd be okay if that wasn't front and center in the Justice League movie because Bruce's absence. So long as there's A Batman, if not THE Batman, included I would give it a chance. Like a previous poster suggested, Christian Bale could make a return in a sequel. And what a huge incentive would that be to lock in an audience for JL2? It's okay to deviate from the characters' histories in the comics for the movie version. Casting Cavill, JGL or Bale, and Ryan Reynolds in the film does lend a kind of continuity to the viewers who have only seen the movies and weren't raised on the books like us (and keep in mind they outnumber us). It's a solid business decision by WB. But that said, I don't believe McWeeny one bit.
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etc., etc.
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I think this would be a huge mistake. I want a gritty, detective-based Batman more akin to the animated series, arkham city, or hell even Scott Snyder's current run with the character.
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Blake was an invention of Nolan's specifically to end his films...it has nothing to do with franchises or money-making excuses to continue this story from a product point of view. Blake being Batman in the Justice League makes as much sense as Jack Bauer being Batman...none at all. I loved the ending of Dark Knight Rises. It's probably the only instance we will ever have of a good ending for a long running genre character. I would love to see an ending for James Bond or someone else of that stature...but I would completely except in the next film that it continue with someone else, it's a contrivance of fantasy, our brains understand how it works. This is just silly talk and we are all cheapened by it. Including me...I'm away for a cleansing shit.
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A film adaptation of Kindom Come is the best idea on this thread. They could use all the characters we know but they don't have to worry about connecting to current franchises. Whoever they cast does not matter, cause for all we know Wayne came back after all those years ago. Leave the backstory ambiguous about what bats was up. Brilliant idea dude.
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The Nolan trilogy was great (well, good, great, pretty good in that order), but this kind of continuity is unnecessary and even obtuse given Nolan's take on the material. You start introducing Supes and Green Lantern and Wonder Woman into that reality and you totally warp the vibe Nolan and Co. set up. I say, have Batman in the JL movie...a new guy, no explanation, just...hey, it's Batman. Then give that Batman his own film, not a reboot origin story, just a standalone Batman flick.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 3:24 a.m. CST
Wrong direction for Wayne/Bats. Bigger and taller...not smaller
by txtone04
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They may do a DK Returns style film with Bale. Who would the villian(s) be?? Would they try to ruin it by bringing back a Joker?? Depends on how many producers have their hands in it.
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Looking at his career path of late, this doesn't seem like a choice he'd be interested in making. I doubt he'd of even done Dark Knight Rises were it not for Nolan, signing on to be part of what I'm sure is going to be hackish also-ran to Avengers doesn't seem like it'd be something of interest for Levitt at this point in his career (Justice League will be for actors who need a paycheck and are looking for something to regain their fame or something to jump start it).
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Are we to believe that Bruce Wayne will just continue sipping espresso and say "Ah, fuck it" and leave an ex-cop with no ninja training and no money to handle it by himself? BULLSHIT.
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Batman is NOT a symbol. He's a leader. And only ONE person can be him - Bruce Wayne. That is what Warner Bros. just can't get about these movies: These characters are LEADERS not symbols! Only Ka-El can be Superman. Only Diana can be Wonder Woman. Only Hal Jordan (or John Stewart) can be Green Lantern. That's why the Marvel films work: They understand the importance of making these superheroes, SUPER. Having anyone be able to become Batman, as long as they meet certain requirements, diminishes the Alpha characteristics required for a real superhero. Thereby making a less interesting movie character. Look what Marvel did: Only Tony Stark can be Iron Man. Only Steve Rogers can be Captain America. Its what makes those two movies the best, imo, of the Marvel adaptations so far. This bullshit "realistic take" that Warner Bros. and Goyer have been touting about is really just code for "appealing to the lowest common denominator": If you make the heroes unexceptional people who just happen to obtain special powers/skills, that' much more relatable to the majority of your audience than having a charismatic super intellectual create an iron suit and heart from scraps of metal and a hundred pound nothing with more heart and courage than anyone else become a super soldier. "In time, they will join you in the sun" - No they fucking won't! WE can not be Superman. That's the whole point! Here's an idea, how about just make THE DARK KNIGHT RISES: Have Blake die in the first ten minutes at the hands of the mutants, which brings back Bruce with Selina filling in the "Carrie" role. Then have Cavil show up in the third act and have everything go down exactly like the comic, only, Bruce doesn't die. The bomb going off can bring in Diana and Hal and work into the Justice League movie. Really, Warner Bros.? Is it really that hard for you?? If you can't get Bale or Hathaway, then just recast. You could even bring back the Joker (If you're willing to cast someone other than Bruce as Batman, then you can recast the Joker). Enough is enough. This is EXACTLY the thing film geeks should be up in arms about. Not making excuses for the studio! Your complacency makes me sick, Nordling. Dismissing this basically because its easier for the studio is the equivalent of "...but, what's going to happen to the insurance companies?"
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Nov. 27, 2012, 3:47 a.m. CST
Finally, there's a Justice League movie except that it won't have Bruce Wayne as Batman
by Chuck_Chuckwalla
Sacrilegious.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 4:02 a.m. CST
seven years of ninja/detective training versus "being an intuitive cop"
by JAMF
i don't think john "robin" blake has the skills to be batman. dunno why people keep bringing it up.
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Total kneejerk reaction to The Avengers making a bazillion dollars, but without making the effort to lay the groundwork over years of single-hero movies that slowly link characters and build up to a team-up movie. And they shouldn’t try it until they reboot Batman with a more unrealistic setting. The current Nolan Batman is still ingrained in the public’s conscious, and he’s gonna look stupid beside men who can fly and dude with magic alien rings. Never mind the other member who the general public will have no idea about.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 4:32 a.m. CST
DC are heading for massive failure ... Marvel has better characters that work on the big screen ... DC have Batman, thats it! ... The new Supes will suck ass.
by GINGE_MUPPET
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Come on man you're thinking of having a 15-30 sec teaser bit at the end of man of steel, marvel have been doing this for years. They missed a huge beat for batman rises and they could have had superman in it at the end (not a teaser) and that would have sold everyone in that cinema a ticket for that movie... it would have been a done deal and it amazes me how much money they could have saved in marketing if they had done that. IF.... i live in a world of IF's
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Nov. 27, 2012, 5:50 a.m. CST
I speculate that this is pure speculation, written by speculators. You want me to go read some fan fiction? No.
by happybunni
Calling total BS. Especially on this line: Drew speculates on a possible end credits scene in MAN OF STEEL that would bring the two sagas together. Go read it. You mean I should go read his fan fiction? Yeah, no!
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John "Conveniently named Robin" Blake as Batman, would be the most stupidest thing to do, Bruce Wayne is Batman! NOT ROBIN!
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if the circumstances were right. I see no reason why he couldn't return to the role. This idea that JGL was set up as the new Batman at the end of TDKR is just wrong - he was clearly set up as Robin/Nightwing. There is also no reason why he couldn't appear in a JL movie either.
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yes, too old to complete the training.
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the worst aspects of comic book writing come out when a character is killed or retired in lazy plot device for 'dramatic effect'. Nolan unnecessarily painted Batman into a creative cul-du-sac from which there is no easy way out. WB allowed this , which is equally unforgivable. What should have been achieved from TDKR are the elements that INSPIRE the non powered DCU heroes and that ultimately we were left with a Batman more recognisable from say BTAS. This would have given rich context to the character. Batman would have truly 'risen'. Unfortunately what we ended up with was a finely packaged film which if about any other character could be heralded as a master piece. But is about Batman. The tepid narrative of the central character undermines fine work elsewhere. Ironic really that the pursuit of reality take us the audience too far from the essence of Bruce Wayne to a point where along with his alter ego he is rendered a sidelined character. Where was 'The World's Greatest Detective'? balletic movement? tactical superiority? imposing intimidating presence? not here. Oh yeah that's right because we are going for reality. I expected a murder mystery with Batman ploughing through a maze of villains to find the culprit as the central story. Instead I got a crap Batman and even crapper Bane have the most laughable fight scene I've ever seen from a mainstream action hero. I am sick and tired of hearing 'this completed the story' and 'JGL takes over the mantle'. It's complete garbage. Anyone can tell me TDKR was a great film- it is just NOT a great Batman film. It should have been called 'Nolan does his own thing' because that's what he did. this is the one time I prayed for studio intervention and WB failed. So now we have ironically 'A Tale of Two Cities' one's called Marvel who have a launch pad to kick all kinds of geek ass, the other is DC who now have to find a way to tie this mess all together. This has easy cost WB atleast $400m+ reboot costs in lost revenue and yeah before I hear anyone say 'well it made over a billion dollars' you're an idiot if you think that this film should not have made 1.5 bil plus. The fact that it didn't is testament to my comments because there are alot of people like me that were turned off the moment they saw a pic of Bane.
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Forget it . . .
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Nov. 27, 2012, 6:54 a.m. CST
I think the sequel should be called Justice Leagues Apart with Hulk Hogan as Mr Freeze
by Chaffro
When I'm through with you you'll be the JUST ICE League, brother!
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I cant see it unless he is going to be BW and not his character from the Nolan version of Rocky 3 (TDKR)
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But i thought the dark knight movies wouldn't tie into Justice League?
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Nov. 27, 2012, 7:16 a.m. CST
Do people still think that Blake was supposed to be Robin or Nightwing after TDKR?!? He already WAS Robin in the movie!
by MariusXe
At the end, he rises to become the next Batman and nothing else. Bruce made Batman into a symbol, so it wouldn't make any sense whatsoever for Blake o assume some other identity other than a new Batman. Aside from that, I am conflicted about this choice for JL. I mean, I kinda like it that they don't scrap Nolans trilogy and that they try to build on that and I liked JGL in the movie and would be interested to see his Blake Batman version, BUT a JL without Bruce Wayne as Batman is kinda... well... WROOOOOOONG! I would like to see him as the new Batman, but having Bruce return to the cape and cowl later in the movie or in a sequel. Warners... just get Bale on the phone and get him back! Make sure that the script is really great and that you get a good director to helm the movie and he should be back in no time!
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Nov. 27, 2012, 7:18 a.m. CST
He'll must likely play nightwing if he's in JL movie. Wouldn't be surprised if Bale returns as batman.
by cameron
Bale has played Batman in 3 hugely successful movies....So he will bring an audience with him. It's a bit like not having RDJ in the avengers....Dumb. Bruce Wayne IS Batman - end of. Either re cast Wayne or bring back Bale' No little 5'3'' 130lb Bat wimp pleeezze. The stumbling block about Looper was trying to imagine Emo wimp Levitt morphing into 6' stocky Willis. Jo's a good actor but no action hero.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 7:18 a.m. CST
Again... GEEEEEET BALE BACK ASAP!!! If you want to bring JLA into Nolans world, do it right!
by MariusXe
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Nov. 27, 2012, 7:19 a.m. CST
They could do it like in the comics, when the Dick Grayson Batman was Gothams Batman and Bruce was Batman around the world!
by MariusXe
That could work for the movies as well. Two Batmen, in one universe.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 7:20 a.m. CST
You cannot have Blake being Batman, fighting aliens or Darside and Bruce still sitting in Italy, doing crossword puzzles after sexy time with Catwoman.
by MariusXe
You have to bring Bruce back!
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Love 'em or Hate 'em. Problem solved
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Nov. 27, 2012, 7:30 a.m. CST
Just my two cents but this is a bad idea. We all agree the JGL is talented but in small doses. The studio execs will cram this guy down our throats just as they did with Chia La-Boof.
by Mel Garga
Keep him as Robin in a spin-off franchise that has him breaking up playground fights between grade school children and rescuing cats from trees and sharing baking tips with lonely housewives. (Or, in JGL's case, lonely stay at home dads.)
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if they continue from Nolan's continuity. I really have no interest in a reboot. So this is good news to me.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 7:47 a.m. CST
Look I'm cool with them trying to build anticipation ala Avengers, but I'm not cool with a non-Bruce Wayne as Batman
by Wcwlkr
I mean dammit come on now! Look I know we had Batman Beyond with someone other than Bruce being Batman. But if we're talking the first JL movie and you have Supes & Batman meeting for the first time & it's not Bruce Wayne I'm not cool with that. Plus it shines light on one of the most disappointing elements of TDKR which was Bruce quitting & this fake Robin taking over. God I hated that scene!
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Marvel was smart, with Iron Man, they set the stage to create a Marvel Cinematic Universe and it works!! There is something so cool seeing continuity between movies. And The Avengers, to me was awesome. Had to see it twice in 3D. Now, DC needs to do something similar, and in my honest opinion, if they did this, it would start with Man Of Steel. All they need to do is plant some cameos, plant some seeds that there is more than just Superman. Nolan's Batman universe was never meant to be a universe where super powered heroes are available, so scratch that right off the list. And, while Green Lantern could have been the start of this "DC Cinematic Universe", they simply didn't provide any hooks. And to top it off, it was a shitty movie. Ryan Reynolds was not a good choice as GL. His take on it was way too flippant and wise cracking, he would have been much better as Wally West/Flash. The movie itself suffered way too many plot holes, The execution of the movie in many ways was wrong. Don't get me wrong, visually, it was cool. In a way The GL movie reminds me of Superman Returns. Now in Superman Returns, I will say I loved the cast, except for whoever played Lois Lane, she was just.. ugh.. lame. Great effects too! It looked so natural when Superman was using his powers, flight, etc.. But just like GL, Superman Returns suffered from so many plot holes, it was sad, because it distracted from being able to enjoy the movie. Anyways, if Znyder's Superman does make it to Justlice League, I would hope that the JL movie wouldn't be bog down with a bunch of origin based segments. I would love to see say, Professor Ivo and Amazo the power siphoning android as the mian villains. If executed correctly, that would be one heck of a movie and could be a great excuse to bring in non-powered heroes to the mix, like Batman, Green Arrow, etc.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 7:55 a.m. CST
Bruce Wayne did not exactly die on TDKR so Bale could return, I suppose
by Ricardo
But I'm not sure he would accept it. I don't know, offer him a shitload of money and top billing, he might.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 8:05 a.m. CST
If they can't do JL without the classic characters, then fuck them
by Crimson Dynamo
I thought the George Miller JL was going to be a separate thing upon itself, why wouldn't this one be any different? Is it fact Man of Steel is going to tie into it? Tommy from 3rd Rock could be playing the Bruce Wayne bats
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Nov. 27, 2012, 8:20 a.m. CST
Ain't gonna be no reboot! Don't want one! Don't want one!
by FlyingToupee
So speaks Apollo Creed.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 8:27 a.m. CST
Cinema comic book films that achieve proper continuity between films: marvel studios. With exception of ghostrider and punisher
by UltraTron
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Nov. 27, 2012, 8:33 a.m. CST
houbou: if Nolan's batman universe was never intended to be one where we see super powered villains as you say then what was it intended to be?! Isn't it batman? I never received a memo that I was watching fake batman. Where's the memo?! I
by UltraTron
want these memos delivered to my desk so I have the right pre-conceived bullshit notions about this crap before I try and shovel it down. Oh no wait I'd like to be surprised. Don't tell me anything.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 8:39 a.m. CST
Sorry guys but Nolan's batman is the same batman as the batman that stands next to superman or it can be completely scrapped. Personally I would have introduced superman in rises. Bruce confronting real power that completely changes everything he is and h
by UltraTron
will do as batman. Could have had him close to quitting and then seeing this other hero raise the bar so high it excites and incites batman to action. To compete he has to pull out every trick including his own brand of X-ray vision. Shoulder to shoulder these new heroes would have been.. Well Joseph Gordon Levitt ain't Bruce Wayne nor is he an acceptable playboy/batman replacement in any way shape or form. There was a real opportunity to grow and expand Nolan's batman and instead they flash-forwarded to his retirement. The only choice is the scrap the nolan-verse if we want the classic world's finest batman and superman fighting together. Scrap it all.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 8:46 a.m. CST
and the idea that any person with police training and a good heart can become an adequate Batman replacement
by Nerd Rage
is fucking stupid...Bruce Wayne had genius intellect, Olympian athleticism, combined with top level training in everything related to a one-man war on crime: tracking, escape artistry, counter intelligence, detective work, disguise, bomb diffusion, psychological profiling, piloting, etc. He trained with deadly seriousness in all these skills since he was a small child until he mastered them all. Batman is a rare case of incredible genetic potential matched with highly specialized training/skill/knowledge. By comparison, Nolan's Bruce Wayne didn't even have adequate training let alone John Blake who also lacks the genius/Olympian genetics.
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As "That guy in Metropolis?"
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the guy only belongs playing uber-douches like in the bike messenger movie. also I would cast him as an elf. He is waify and has pointy ears like one.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST
Man Of Steel is basically going to be Batman Begins for Superman
by SithMenace
From the director of such gems as 300 and Sucker Punch. Yes, I hated 300. I have no hope for MoS.
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Good move dumping Favreau.
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...This is confirmed...& you just got............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .......................coxxed!!!!!!!!
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that you need to continue Nolan's universe forever to keep Batman interesting and popular.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:05 a.m. CST
LoL this is ridiculous.....JGL as Batman is awful.
by fat_rancor_keeper
Don't get me wrong - the actor is awesome and he was one of the better parts of Rises. But for God sakes WB needs to let go of Nolan's universe....and all the baggage it brings. The JL movie should be a fresh new take and Batman in that world HAS to be Bruce Wayne.
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i dont get it.....all i see is the annoying kid from the god awful sitcom.......
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:15 a.m. CST
argh i loved TDKR's james bondish weird over the top silliness but they really did fuck the franchise in the ass
by Stephen
Obviously it was intentional. a possessive move by Nolan. It was like he licked the candybar so no one else would eat it. I'm a firm believer that in any good DC universe adaptation Superman needs to be the first and most powerful superpowered being. it's society's reaction to him that makes him relevant. Batman, however, could come first and they had a great franchise to jump off of. but then nolan licked the candy bar and we have to go get a new one. JGL is like the chunk of nougat that fell on the floor when nolan was licking. Edible? Technically.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:16 a.m. CST
I call bullshit! Superman can't exist in the Nolan Bat Verse
by FreeBeer
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That's why it was shown at the end of the series. They didn't literally intend to make him the next Batman. This is a bullshit scoop.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:26 a.m. CST
Nerd Rage ... well said, but there's also one more ingredient to th Batman cocktail:
by juice willis
Batman is a rare case of incredible genetic potential matched with highly specialized training/skill/knowledge.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:28 a.m. CST
Cut off the comment section of my post... fucking antiquated talkback section.
by juice willis
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:32 a.m. CST
Yeah, that reminds me, why did they introduce him as ROBIN in Dark Knight Rises?
by gridlockd
Why bother introducing Robin in the last 8 seconds of the final Batman installment? Unless there's another sequel planned that I don't know about, then it's kind of a dick move.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:42 a.m. CST
So, where does Robin Blake get enough money to be Batman?
by Royston Lodge
Batman's real superpower is his vast wealth. Did Bruce Wayne name Robin Blake his sole beneficiary?
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:44 a.m. CST
nerd rage: Nolan's version of Bruce Wayne wasn't a genius.
by Royston Lodge
Lucius Fox invented all his toys. Bruce Wayne was tough, trained, and determined, but not a genius, and not a detective.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:46 a.m. CST
You could have JGL start out as a shitty Azrael/Batman, Bruce sees him on the news, sees JGL fuck it up, and so he returns to the cowl
by Royston Lodge
Or whatever, I don't care, Justice League's gonna suck anyways.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:47 a.m. CST
The only way to have a tie-in with Man of Steel and Justice League at this point
by Snookeroo
would be in the end credits, and even in that case it would have to be something they tacked on after-the-fact. Man of Steel finished shooting over a year ago. WB didn't decide to actually green-light Justice League until after Avengers made gobs of money this summer.
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John Blake goes on the prowl as Nightwing ... Gets sucked into the story of the Justice League and finds he's clear out of his element as the Justice League is on the ropes ... and BAM! Here comes Bruce Wayne as Batman, serving as the calvary that saves the Justice League's bacon!
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Cause Robing being Batman in a Justice League movie would just be stupid.
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It's actually more of a batman movie than that one was to me. Ledger dominates the movie so goddamn much, everything else is sucked into his black hole of awesome. But man, when I'm watching Rises, yeah everything's rather ridiculous, but it does evoke the quality of a weird offshoot comic book batman story that I used to read as a kid, so that's ok with me. And I'm sure kids don't even care, they just enjoy the film and shit. Problem is, it's your typical third film, over stuffed. But artistically, it's the most interesting to me because it breaks from Nolan's usual style. You could tell he said "fuck it" and had fun with this stupid kiddie shit he's been taking too seriously...
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:53 a.m. CST
BTW is it just me? Or is anyone else sick of the AICN HORROR and COMICS cluttering the main page?
by D.Vader
That's all this site has become- AICN COMICS and AICN HORROR and AICN FREE STUFF stories EVERY day.
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He doesn't seem badass enough to be Batman. He could be Flash though. And if that happed, when they do a Flash movie, you might get some butts in the seats.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:59 a.m. CST
No John Blake in the comics = no John Blake Batman
by fat_rancor_keeper
C'mon let's stay true to the comics a little huh? At best Blake is just a combination of the first three Robin characters from the comics. He's Nolan's Robin, or as close as Nolan would get to the character. Since there's no batman 4 (at this time) I'd say leave it as is. If they shove Levitt into JL that actually solidifies the fact that we'll never return to Nolan's unique universe. Who knows, a decade from now it might be fun to see another Nolan trilogy, once fans have cooled down on the hate from Rises and are feeling nostalgic.
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CAST JGL -JGL is popular (i guess?) but not too popular to be in an ensemble -Lots of people saw TDKR. They all saw him "inherit" the Batman mantle -TDK franchise was huge. Keep it going if you can -Nolan obviously likes him and he's running shit at WB right now -Snyder will cast anyone as long as they aren't fat and can be shot at 120 fps. (as of MoS Nolan/Snyder are the current JL Cinematic Universe team) DONT CAST HIM -Maybe you could get someone more popular -All those people who saw TDKR are going to be wondering why he's not Robin though. -TDK franchise is over, there's not really any story left. -TDK franchise's strength was its believability, Superman throws a wrench in that -Plot holes: No money left to support a JGL Batman (bruce: broke, remember?) Conclusion: Its a toss up
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Nov. 27, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST
antonstark - *I would have liked to see the Wachowskis take over Batman*
by F This
Oh great, so they could turn it into a visually insane crapfest. That would be so wonderful.
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To have Superman just meet with Jim Gordan or be in Gotham and bump into Batman seems like it would be forced and from what I've heard, kinda go against what Man of Steel is about. JLA needed to be planned out better. They've put themselves in a tough spot. Green Lantern was shit. You have Nolan's Batman being huge, but it's wrapped up. Superman Returns hurt Superman some and will Man of Steel be a huge blockbuster? And now the tone of Man of Steel will probably have to be the tone of JLA, which couod suck because I keep hearing how Goyer wants it to be gritty and real and all that. They need to be really careful cause if JLA doesn't do well, DC will be in a lot of trouble.
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That was the point of Jennifer Love Hewitt finding the Batcave. He could be Batman, anyone can be Batman. Except he can't be Batman. Bruce was an idealist who didn't take into account that his billions of dollars and years of ninja training made him Batman. So JLH puts on the suit (which obviously won't fit him), gets into the new Batmobile, which is his 1990 Corrolla and immediately gets killed by a crack head with a broken bottle. Reboot the fucking thing.
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TDKR was a steaming pile of lazy plot holes with too many baffled stories crap characterisation and ultimately it felt stale and meandering. The nods to fanboys were forced and patronising, the two best things in it where Anne Hatherway's performance and JGL, which Nolan butt fucked at the end. This is a terrible idea and the more rumours that pop up the more it starts looking like Green Lantern. Besides the tonal shift from Nolan's Batverse to this would be horrible. I truly hope JLA turns up trumps, I truly hoped Green Lantern would to though.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 10:10 a.m. CST
So JGL goes to college and him and his douchey english roommate Henry Cavill start a school club called the justice league
by Stephen
Cavill keeps trying to get JGL to be Batman and they design him a costume. but JGL keeps insisting that he's Robin. "I wanna use my birth name!" he whines. Cavill play slaps him and says "what about your secret identity, silly?" they gaze at each other when they are interrupted by a knock. a blonde guy pokes his head in "excuse me, I'm arthur, is this the aquarium club?"
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We're talking about the company that is constantly afraid to have multiple versions of characters in more than one TV show or movie out of fear of "confusing" the audience. I can't see them putting out a non-Bruce Wayne Batman.
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it was the best comic book movie of the summer by far, better than tv movie emo spiderman and that turd avengers
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But he has a suit. Totally the same thing.
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a JL movie would help remove the shit stains for DC. Let's see what MOS brings, shall we?
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Nov. 27, 2012, 10:47 a.m. CST
THIS MOVIE IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE MAN OF STEEL WILL BE A BIG FAILURE.
by Darth Busey
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besides the $200 dedicated to advertising
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Sarah Michelle Gellar for Wonder Woman. Shiah Labeef as the Flash. Zach Efron as The Green Lantern. Wesley Snipes as Batman. That is all.
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Then Harry will like it.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 11:18 a.m. CST
Full Circle : JGL as Azrael, Wounded Batman, then Keaton as Batman in Batman beyond
by Crosby Brito
So, Bale gets disabled. Rises already left the door open for JGL to assume reign. He goes nuts and over board, using violence to compensate for his lack of size and strength. Later down the road merge it into batman beyond. Bring Michael Keaton as a aged Bruce and bring it full circle.
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That shows lack of commitment and faith in the project. Unless they raised it again, $75 is not enough for a super hero movie.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 11:23 a.m. CST
So John Blake has no resources, right? Other than the cave?
by Larry Sellers
If this news is true, I'm curious as to how they'll explain how a jobless ex-cop living in a cave under an orphanage has any clout with other superheroes. I liked JGL in TDKR, but it just makes more sense to start a new Batman up with Bruce Wayne.
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His name is Robin.
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There's an easy solution to this. Bale should be Batman. Blake is Nightwing the protector of Gotham, and Bale is living it up in Europe with Selina and funding Blake's activities. But when he sees that there are now new global superhuman threats, he realizes that he has a new responsiblity that he cannot hide from. Gotham is in safe hands with Blake, but Selina urges him look into this global threat (whatever it is) and he dons the suit once more. And finds that others are also looking into it (Superman, Batman, etc.) Bruce has done his duty for Gotham, that story is done. Now Batman is working for the world. With Selina, and Nightwing. Done!
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That was supposed to be (Superman, Green Lantern, etc.) in my last post...
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DKR concluded the trilogy, and left the door open for a "Robin" to take over Batman's responsbilities--NOT his identity. Reboot this sucker will all new people. The only "old" face I want to see is possibly the new Superman as he hasn't even been introduced on screen and there is plenty of time before the final cut is made to create a little "preamble" to JLA. Again, taking a cue from Marvel, maybe have a new Bruce Wayne introduced to Superman at the end of Man of Steel? There, done, perfect! I'll take my check now, Warners.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 12:14 p.m. CST
Why don't they just stick to the original plan and "reboot" the bitch. Start from scratch (David Fincher *cough, cough*).
by Jarrete Barnett
And I'd rather see a World's Finest movie than Justice League. Justice League would be too obvious, gimmicky and desperate of a response from WB to The Avengers. A good World's Finest story on-screen would be more original and make more sense (especially in a post-Nolan universe).
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JGL's reps say it's not true at all.
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Hello Harry and Co. This would be my idea of how Man of Steel could tie in to a Justice League Movie Man Of Steel - tie in to Justice League When Kal-El lands as a baby, his rocket did not go unnoticed... When Superman starts making his appearance in public, a group named CheckMate, an international organization dedicated to keeping peace against terrorists and other threats took notice and immediately began a subtle search of his origins and to assess his potential as a threat to Earth, and to see how he could become an asset to the organization. It didn't take long for CheckMate to realize that 1 Kryptonian is simply too much to control. Things get worse at CheckMate when more Kryptonians are on Earth, battling Superman. Add to the aggravation other super powered individuals sighted performing super human deeds. So, they kickstart a project dedicated to protecting humanity against super-powered individuals and alien threats. Cloning, Power Replication, Power Dampening or removal, Threat elimination, everything goes in this research. So, In Man Of Steel, the process of trying to learn who is Superman, get sample of his DNA, etc.. In Justice League, the premise is that at Cadmus, a professor Ivo was working on a suit which can absorb powers, store them and replicate them into other suits. They chose a soldier for this test to put the suit for field testing, the suit performs well. The first real test is against Superman, which actually works out very well indeed as they are able to capture him and being him back at a CheckMate facility designed to hold him down. Then they go against Wonder Woman, which also works well. When they try to go against Flash, an unexpected assist from Green Lantern has the following effect: 1) the 2 heroes are not able to win the fight 2) the suit goes into overload, while replicating the actual ring, and absorbing the power of the flash proves too much to handle and somehow this fuses onto the soldier who now goes mad, as the suit is developing some sort of sentience. In effect the suit and the soldier become Amazo, one entity. Amazo is now power hungry and discovers he can juggle the powers, and thus goes after the other heroes on the list, and is NOT under the control of CheckMate any longer. Other heroes are captured, but these battles don't go unnoticed by Batman, who with Green Arrow and other non-powered heroes try to solve the issue. Eventually, CheckMate must use Batman and the other non powered heroes and free the imprisoned leaguers, who must then go against Amazo. I think this would be an awesome movie and a good origin for the Justice League.
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They'll knock you into tomorrow, Rock!
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You are smoking crack if you think THE HOBBIT will make anywhere near the money that AVATAR did. In fact, I'll say right here and now that all three of THE HOBBIT films together won't make what just AVATAR alone made. And I'm confident enough to say it won't be close. AVATAR made just under 2.8 billion worldwide. So each film in the THE HOBBIT trilogy would need to pull in about 930 million each to equal what just the first AVATAR made. It's not happening. THE LORD OF THE RINGS had a ton of story to tell, so an epic trilogy was needed. THE HOBBIT is a very short book, and stretching it out over three films is going to be the first obvious cash grab that really backfires. Women wanted to see LOTR, they don't want to see even one film of THE HOBBIT trilogy.
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He stated that his Batman would NOT be part of a shared DC universe and now rumors of JGL taking over as Batman in a JL movie is so stupid! This just proves that no one at WB actually reads DC comics.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 1:01 p.m. CST
How great would it be to skip the formation and make the film all about getting Batman to join?
by the Green Gargantua
No fucking way JGL
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Nov. 27, 2012, 1:10 p.m. CST
This makes as much sense as having Christopher Reeve playing Supes again
by cozy
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Nov. 27, 2012, 1:10 p.m. CST
migmog says TDKR's crap ending and treatment of the Batman character has come back to haunt them
by migmog
The ridiculous folly of giving Nolan a free hand is going to cost WB DC big time. Reality bites and this clumsy attempt at planning the future films around this trilogy are testament to it. See my earlier post post for the full rant. I will leave you with this thought - if Nolan had made the third film he SHOULD of made the billion dollar box office would be chump change to what it would have set up. What a joke
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Nov. 27, 2012, 1:10 p.m. CST
I hate to join the chorus, but this is a bad, bad, BAD idea
by rk349097
As Chris Crocker might put it: Leave Nolan's films alone! They were a self-contained story that is now finished. There is absolutely NOTHING that can be done in that particular universe that wouldn't feel like a unnecessary, grotesque cash-grab (see "The Bourne Legacy"). The fantastical tone of a "Justice League" story would be an ugly clash with Nolan's universe anyway. It's best to just reboot Batman altogether with a different creative team rather than attempt to Frankenstein the Nolanverse into a new story.
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it would be cool/interesting to see a Superman franchise with other DCU heroes as supporting characters, and then also a Batman franchise with other, different versions/interpretations of DCU characters as supporting characters, etc for Wonder Woman, whoever they can make happen. That way we could have Superman's Batman and Batman's Superman and it would make for interesting, unrestricted storytelling as well as saying a lot about subjectivity.
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Yeah, what I like about this idea is that, in a way, it can help with the story telling. For example, if you want to get a very quick intro on all heroes, CheckMate could be doing delivering a debriefing at the beginning of the movie and give a quick intro to the heroes they have documented.. Most of all, what I like about this is that, its not meant to be on a cosmic level, it actually allows all types of leagues to excel and is a good reason for heroes to band as the Justice League. In another world, this movie doesn't have to be billions of dollars. Villains like Darkseid, those are great too, but, there shoud be a build up to that, perhaps after the Justice League movie, we start seeing stand alone as well as team ups where threads are spun which eventually ties up to dealing with Darkseid in JL2
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Nov. 27, 2012, 1:35 p.m. CST
Why Nolan's Batman isn't meant for a new Justice League Movie?
by houbou
http://screenrant.com/chris-nolan-justice-league-batman-kofi-185964/
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Nov. 27, 2012, 1:41 p.m. CST
It's obvious that Nolan purposefully poisoned the bat-well.
by Smerdyakov
So no one could come along and mess with his 'glorious" trillogy without creating an outcry. The only sensible thing to do is tell him to fuck off and start over.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 1:45 p.m. CST
After seeing Skyfall I'm convinced Bardem would have been just as good as Ledger.
by Smerdyakov
If not scarier.
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And unsurprisingly, Levitt's reps summarily dismiss this. But then again, reps always do. Of course, this does open up an "even the Bat can die" angle for them to play on film (as killing Barry Allen over and over again is so passé these days- that and Geoff Johns will cry) leading to the triumphant return of Christian Bale after he either lightens up or they bring in an enticing director. All that said, I'm not putting any money on this. Unless someone wants to put said money up, in which case I'll be sure to get it back to you as soon as I cash out once this rumor naturally comes to fruition like they do.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 1:57 p.m. CST
Gina Carano is a good 4 inches under 6 ft. Not a good start for WW.
by I Max U Mini
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Nov. 27, 2012, 2:11 p.m. CST
And For All The So Called "Comic Fans" Pissing And Mewling Like Freshly Spayed Kittens...
by ShadowVoyd
Fuck off. Seriously. And I say this as a life long comic reader. I can only imagine the kind of blood pressure spike you suffer when you come across an Elseworlds and have to bite back the urge to scream "You're doing it wrong!' Chris Nolan's Batman was never meant to be, nor purported to be, the ultimate definitive "comic book" Batman brought to the screen. <P> It was Nolan's interpretation through and through, meant to tell it's own story based on the character of Batman, which quite a few Elseworlds tales has done beautifully. This little three volume cinematic Elseworlds version of Batman did it no less beautifully. <P> Hopefully the lot of you whiners can get your heads out of asses just long enough to appreciate that. I can only imagine them thinking about maybe going a more comic accurate route the next time around (which yeah, the New 52 is meant to help engender), thinking about your ilk being the only likely audience to show up and then frantically running the other way.
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She’s damn perfectly suited to be cast as Wonder Woman. You do realize you are nitpicking over the height of a fictional character right? And I am sure an actors height has everything to do with presence on screen. Hell, Tom Cruise, Robert Downey Jr, George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Johnny Depp and a lot more action stars would be unemployable in hollywood if the lot of you ran things there. I also find it funny that because Carano isn’t 7 frick’n feet tall that’s the only negativity you people throw at her regarding possibly being cast in Wonder Woman. Lets look at the positives: She can act, despite what you think acting is, she would act circles around 90 percent of you. She can fight, I mean REALLY fight and it really shows on camera too, Haywire was awesome work for somebody with virtually no acting experience prior. And she’s not to shabby looking either, she’s beautiful really. Lock this woman down now for Woman Woman, I beg of you movie Gods! To hell with the naysayers.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 2:28 p.m. CST
I DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING AND SPEND MY MONEY ON ANYTHING HOLLYWOOD TELLS ME TO!!!
by TopHat
So, I'm superior to ALL OF YOU! You bunch of whiners. Having opinions. Voicing them on an opinion board. You make me SICK. I am such a more real man than you. I don't bitch about anything. I'm a good boy. To prove it, I come on message boards like this just to talk down to you. Just do whatever industry wants you to do. Be a good worker and consumer, nothing more. If not, then SHUT-THE-FUCK-UP. Man-up, pussies. The studios can do whatever they want. RUMSFELD!!!
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Enough reason to be WW IMHO.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 3:27 p.m. CST
PS - last movie was crazy unrealistic anyway - at the beginning he could barely walk without mechanical assistance -- by the end he was able to escape that pit unassisted after his back being broken. I know it's a comic-based movie but I thought Nolan wa
by HarrysNemesis
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Nov. 27, 2012, 3:36 p.m. CST
Why does a JL movie have to adhere strictly to the comics? I think the artistic failure of the Green Lantern movie went to show that most DC characters are difficult to translate into a cinematic universe without coming off as silly or contrived (see also
by Brian
By all means, ground the film in Nolan's aesthetics and see what happens. I could see a possible scenario where after faking his death, Bruce takes another cue from Ra's and starts his own version of the League of Shadows by recruiting Nolan-ized versions of DC pantheon in order to continue his crusade for justice on a global scale. If this were the case, I could see JGL as the League's Batman with Bruce running things behind the scenes (and this would leave the door open for Bale to come back in a Nick Fury-esque cameo setting the stage for future films)
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Nov. 27, 2012, 3:49 p.m. CST
And I shall speculate that Disney will use its Star Wars money to buy out Time Warner and put WB/DC out of its longstanding collective misery.
by animatronicmojo
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Let's not just talk about failures, on the bright side, the GL movie had nice effects. If anything, Sinestro was brilliantly cast. Overall, everyone was well cast, except for Hal Jordan and Hector Hammond. The failures in the GL movie to me wasn't in the difficulty of translating the characters from comics to movie. I believe the story was wrong. The execution was wrong. Plot holes.. For example, why dump Parallax in a "hollow" portion of an asteroid or planet?? If you bury an entity, fill the hole!!! The way the energy of the green is harnessed that didn't feel right either. The scope of Parallax's powers was hard to understand too. They should have kept the story and the arcs closer to home, use more of the actual comic book storyline especially when it comes to the various colors of power. This was a big storyline in both GL and GL Corps titles a few years back. I didn't like how the Parallax storyline was used in the movie and certainly didn't like the way it was linked to Hector Hammond and how Hammond was linked to both Jordan and Ferris. Bottom line, the GL movie was a failure simply because the people who worked the movie doesn't understand the GL character and failed to create a story which made sense of that character, the powers he wield and the universe in which he operates in. It's important to adapt a comic to the movie, but whatever makes a comic a success, should somehow survive the translation. This is where Marvel has been excelling at, since the first Iron Man. The only big wrench I can put as far as Marvel goes was the Thor movie, which I did kinda like, but, there is something wrong about the scope of powers that Thor has and the implementation that the movie has given. Nevertheless, I stilled enjoyed Thor regardless. But here's the real truth. For what it's worth. Joss Whedon is a comic book nerd. And he understood the characters he worked with and he was able to create what is so far, the first true comic book team up movie. And it's a smashing success. Bottom line. DC, when you interview your directors, make sure they are top notch comic book geeks! If I was DC, I would have more trust in the people who have produced the animated versions of Batman, JLA, Batman Beyond, Superman Adventures, Teen Titans, etc.. The animated DC features are by far superior to what I've seen done by Marvel. These people deserve a chance to strut their stuff with a full feature live action movie.
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That's the point right there 'Elseworlds' At least in that dojo you know what you are getting yourself into. Particularly post TDK the direction this film took was surprising given that imho the main narrative should have been 'peak human vs. enhanced human. The latter demonstrating the priced paid for superior physical strength from the 'venom' it was possible to do this and particularly poignant in an Olympic year. The cherry picking of plotlines from the comics may well have served the story but not the Batman character. For me it is here that TDKR fails even within the confines it set itself. The story would imho by pitting a peak Batman against an authentic Bane with Asian fight choreographers brought in. After the first conflict the 'fall would have been more believable. The 'rise' should have been a bridge in character development to produce a BTAS end product adding rich context to the the character and a truly epic 'holy s&%t moment The result on screen was a rather tepid central character propped by beautiful cinematography and a fine supporting cast both sides of the lens A fine illusion that could and should have been so much more
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Gina Carano could kick your sorry ass into next week. That's a pretty good start. And she actually looks like a warrior, unlike the Hollywood waifs that others have suggested for the role. Didn't Hugh Jackman prove that embodying the character matters more than whether the actor matches the height on some comic book geek's fucking trading card?
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Nov. 27, 2012, 6:40 p.m. CST
This works only if he's Robin/Nightwing and Bale's Batman comes out of retirement as the big reveal halfway through the JL movie or just recast Bruce Wayne and continue on without a major reboot...
by thecomedian
Didn't Bale hint that there just might be more for him to do as Batman a few months ago? WB should just dump a truck full of money onto his lawn and be done with it. Screw Nolan if he wants nothing more to do with the character or the franchise then that's on him. Either bring Bale back or just recast Bruce Wayne but keep lose ties to the Nolan trilogy so we don't have to sit thru an unnecessary reboot. I always believed Nolan's Batman would work in a greater cinematic DCU because it would be interesting to see this guy who pretends to be something otherworldly and supernatural suddenly being confronted with beings who actually are. Of course he wouldn't trust them at first and that's where the story would be interesting. Either way whether they tie to Nolan or go for a complete reboot I think the only way people are going to give enough of a shit after almost 25 years of rubber suit Batman movies would be to give us The Batman we've never seen in any of the Burton, Schumacker or Nolan films; BATMAN AS THE INDOMITABLE BADASS. Which is basically JLA Batman 99% of the time since Crisis and especially during the JLI Era and Morrison's JLA. If you have a movie where Cavill's Superman and Reynold's Green Lantern(or somebody else as Hal Jordan with Reynold's film as back story) are gathering all the other heroes and then Batman(The Original Superhero in this expanded universe) suddenly comes out of retirement then that would be pretty cool. They can do that either with JGL as replacement Bats or Robin or whatever fucking up getting his ass handed to him and then Bruce Wayne shows up. You'd basically be making him the DCU equivalent of Downey's Iron Man. He's the 1st modern hero and he's totally cynical and can't believe this ridiculous situation that has paired him with an Alien, An Amazon, A Guy with a Magic Ring from Outer Space, a guy who can run faster than the speed of light and some moron who talks to fish. Bale or Not this how you do Batman in JL. Movie, even without Bale you can just cast another name and do the lose tie to the Nolan films so you don't have to reboot just like Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer and George Clooney were supposed to be the same guys. It's not that complicated.
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If they're gonna reboot/restart/rewhatever the franchise I'd prefer someone new. Though I don't think JGL is the right guy. Maybe as the Flash. The perfect Batman would be you guessed it Karl Urban.
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I like Karl Urban, he's a good actor. He could be a good Batman/Bruce Wayne. As far as I'm concerned, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, is not Batman material. I like him and truly loved his work in Looper. I don't think he would make a good Flash either. Flash should have been Ryan Reynolds. Even though he's no spring chicken, for me, Nathan Fillion could have been a great Green Lantern as Hal Jordan. They could have eventually passed the torched to Kyle Rayner, but I'm not sure who would be good for that part. When you think of actors casted for Super Heroes / Super Villains or other comic book related parts for either TV Shows or Movies, I tell you, so far, my favorite list is as follows: 1) Jack Nicholson as Joker 2) Heath Ledger as Joker 3) Hugh Jackman as Wolverine 4) Billy Zane as the Phantom 5) Ron Perlman as Hellboy 6) Christian Bale as Batman 7) John Wesley Shipp as the Flash* 8) Robert Downey Jr as Iron Man 9) Karl Urban as Judge Dredd 10) Sylvester Stallone as Judge Dredd** 11) Christopher Reeve as Superman 12) Chris O'Donnell as Robin 13) Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor 14) Michael Rosenbaum as Lex Luthor*** 15) Erica Durance as Lois Lane*** 16) Dean Cain as Superman**** 17) John Shea as Lex Luthor**** 18) Teri Hatcher as Lois Lane**** 19) J.K. Simmons as J. Johan Jameson 20) Gabriel Macht as the Spirit***** * The Flash TV Show was amazing! And Fun! It got cancelled due to the expensive undertaking for each episode (somewhere between 750K to 1.5M per episode) ** Ok, for the record, Stallone's Judge Dredd movie wasn't all that great, but with the helmet on, he's looks spot-on. Had the script been more faithful to the comics, He did have the chops for the role. *** Smallville in many ways kinda sucked. It lasted 10 seasons, lord knows how. Tom Welling was OK but... Rosenbaum kicked ass as Lex Luthor and so Erica Durance's Lois Lane is extremely memorable. The truth about that show is that for the most part, the supporting characters were more interesting than the main characters. Gee, that would be my same complaint about Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The more interesting characters were Willow, Xander, Angel, Giles and Spike along with Cordelia. **** Lois and Clark was not technically better than the Flash in terms of special effects, but, the first season rocked and I did like the Dean Cain/Teri Hatcher combo. Her take on Lois Lane was bratty and fun. And let's face it, John Shea truly made a great Lex Luthor. ***** Ok, this movie was totally misunderstood. It was literally a comic book brought to life type movie. If you image a comic book where you flip a page, read the comic book but ... instead of reading a page, there are actors playing the part, then you get it. And Gabriel Macht truly made the Spirit a true port from comic book to life.
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Haywire was shit. She should be nowhere near Wonder Woman
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Nov. 27, 2012, 8:29 p.m. CST
It makes no sense. Batman died. His death served a purpose for the people of Gotham.
by cgih8r
They built a statue to honor him. It makes no sense for JGL to take his mantle and continue. If he did, then it would void the sacrifice that the public believes Batman made for them. Justice League has always been and will always be a stupid idea anyway. It's like taking Batman and Superman and turning them into Power Rangers.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:20 p.m. CST
Nolanized version of the JLA would be utter shit. That might have worked for Batman, but imagine Nolan's Flash...
by hank henshaw
Nolan's Flash would be a guy that runs a little faster than Usain Bolt. Or maybe the Flash faster than others is the he rides a bicycle, or likes sports cars. Nolan's Green Lantern would not be called Green Lantern, 'cause it's stupid. Just some brawler, who carries a flashlight around (who uses lanterns anymore?) just in case he has to go in some dark place. Nolan's Aquaman? Impossible. Nolan's Martian Manhunter? Impossible. Wonder Woman? Hawkman? No, no, no. Nolan had his run with 3 Batman movies, time to move on.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:49 p.m. CST
Thinking about it more, the idea they'd have JGL would be a major sign the JL film is doomed.
by Charlie
Seriously, it's not a good choice. You would never ever cast him as Batman on his own merits. It's not a clever or an inspired choice. It's just a bad choice. He is simply wrong for it. The only reason they'd get him would be some lame attempt to hold onto the Nolan films. If that's how pathetic and low they are going. Where they'll sacrifice major casting to do that... then the film is fucking doomed. It shows it's not coming from a strong creative standpoint. Also casting before directors or scripts. Bad choice. Although strangely enough I think they should keep RR as the GL for consistency.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 9:56 p.m. CST
We still haven't gotten a comics faithful Batman for cryin out loud
by chris k
The best description of Batman I've read is that he is a combo of Sherlock Holmes, Tony Stark and Bruce Lee with a very mean streak when necessary. We've yet to get a movie faithful to that. The best adaptation was the animated series. Heck, as one poster pointed out, Batman is hardly even onscreen in DKR. The Nolan films never got me excited because they are not real Batman films and the action/fight scenes were terrible. I actually think Sam raimi should do the batman reboot, just don't let him do the casting (Dunst sucked). Still think Spidey2 was well done.
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Jgl will not be batman... I read it. It must be true because....I read it.
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What you pointed out is quite true. And it would be great that movie versions of Batman had at least a bit more detective type challenges. I can live with the fact that a movie Batman isn't a full-on techno-genius, but bring out the detective in him a bit more.
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Nov. 27, 2012, 11:22 p.m. CST
Batman's sidekick was in the League (as i'm sure someone mentioned), why so serious?
by Halibut
There's precedent and there's the fact that a human or two in the mix is _vital_ to a good superhero team-up. But if Bruce Wayne isn't the other guy from the Dark Whatever Trilogy then it has to be Fox.
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for JLM, I think WB should stick with him. Signing JGL in some vain hope of keeping Nolan's influence alive in a tonally totally different film universe is a catastrophically bad idea that will sink JL before it has even hit pre-production. Of course, as others have mentioned, MOS will have to be a success before anything moves ahead.
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As Nightwing, but not as Batman. Maybe have Bale surprise return at some point to save the rest of the JLA. Also I just saw Haywire and Carano can't act a freaking lick. She can do the action, maybe do the stunt work for a real actress? If Cavill and Reynolds are retained (although as mentioned, Reynolds smart Alec routine would work better as Flash than GL) then the casting of the B-members becomes super important. Need a strong WW, Flash, MM, Aquaman to keep this from being all about Bats and Supes.
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would be much cooler to do than most of this stuff.
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This seems like the perfect time to reintroduce somebody else as Batman. Either as a JL exclusive or with the idea that you tie him in with a new Batman franchise. As for the JL movie, the absolute worst thing they could do is rush this. I think they are already pushing their luck. Anticipation is what makes for huge box office. Avengers wasn't just put together in two years. It was pumped for several years. Same thing with Star Wars. Lucas may have his faults, but he sure didn't work on anybody else's timeframe.
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The "Robin" ending was the most fucked up aspect of TDKR. Bruce's best asset to fighting crime is his wealth! If his suit gets fucked up, or he needs new equipment, he just fucking buys it. What the hell is Robin John Blake going to do if the Batmobile needs a new engine? Fucking take out a loan? Fuuuuck this noise. Bruce Wayne is Batman. Justice League isn't the Justice League without Batman. The 3rd Rock From the Batman rumor can GTFO
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Nov. 28, 2012, 2:12 a.m. CST
Jack Black for Hal Jordan! Make it so.
by illegal alien vs sexual predator
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http://www.hollywood.com/news/Joseph_Gordon_Levitt_Batman_Man_of_Steel_Cameo_Justice_League_REPORT/45081080
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Nov. 28, 2012, 4:07 a.m. CST
Dini MUST be involved in the next Batman/JLA movie
by bloody_shit_on_my_dick
It has been mentioned here before, but it bears repeating: a Batman or JLA movie made without Dini and his team at this juncture will be pure shit. Make the next bat movie in the same vein as the Arkham games or Dini's other work on Batman. I don't know how these dumb fucks at warners think that continuing the nolanverse version of Batman is a good idea. There is nothing left to do with Nolan's story. It's over, done. It was a self contained trilogy and should be treated as such. JGL will never be accepted by the fan's and fanboy's as Batman. Bruce Wayne IS Batman for fuck's sake. Give it up. This rumor should be complete bullshit. It makes no sense. But if it comes to pass, the WB will reap what they sow. At least we have the DC animated films that Dini and co. put. Batman will live on, but hollywood has it all fucked up.
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*that Dini and co. put out. AICN, when will you ever fix this edit button shit? Probably never right? LMAO
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