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Harry's DVD PICKS & PEEKS - Nov 20th Releases: THE POINT, CINDERELLA, EXPENDABLES 2, TARANTINO XX, HEAVEN'S GATE & More!

Published at: Nov. 20, 2012, 5:45 a.m. CST by AICNStaff

Hey folks, Harry here with today’s column all ready for ya. Some fun stuff as always. Really can’t wait to pick up Criterion’s HEAVEN’S GATE release on Blu. It’s a real film geek’s jewel. Along with this Tarantino set! As usual, the images and the links take you to Amazon where you can learn more on the title, or even purchase it, which actually helps with the column quite a bit. Now let’s hop in…

Tuesday, November 20th, 2012





THE EXPENDABLES 2 Blu Ray

Simon West’s best film is this second outing of Stallone & his fellow Expendables. This time, the film is bigger, there’s less cameos of big names and more actual supporting roles. And that’s nothing but good. The film gets surreal and insane with Chuck Norris’ part. He really does feel like a hero from an entirely different plane of existence as everyone else. There’s a ton of extras, deleted scenes, gag reel, making of and interviews with everyone. Plus Simon West’s commentary.




CINDERELLA Blu Ray

You can pick this up right now for just $15 from Amazon and that’s a steal! This was never one of my top favorite Disney classics, but as I see it more and more, I appreciate it greater. I love the mice. The music, Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo is just too great. I was at the Disney Store this weekend with Yoko and couldn’t for the life of me think of LUCIFER’s name. Ya know, the cat. And I’d be lying if I didn’t say how much I love “A Dream Is A Wish Your Heart Makes.” Disney stakes on the extras and do an absolutely lovely job with this Blu! I just wish it had Betty Boop’s Poor Cinderella on here too, just because it is my preferred animated Cinderella telling. Betty is just too cool! Another great classic release Blu from Disney!




TARANTINO XX 8-Film Collection Blu Ray (RESERVOIR DOGS, TRUE ROMANCE, PULP FICTION, JACKIE BROWN, KILL BILL Vol 1., KILL BILL Vol. 2, DEATH PROOF & INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS)

I love this box set of every feature that Tarantino has directed & TRUE ROMANCE, which he wrote – and is Tarantino’s favorite of the titles directed by other directors. His public dislike for NATURAL BORN KILLERS is also evidenced by its non inclusion in this rather remarkable box. Excellent extras on every film disc, but then there’s even more with 5 hours of stuff we’ve never seen before – and it even has a collection of DJANGO UNCHAINED trailers. This set celebrates the 20th anniversary of Tarantino upon cinema. He drenches his film in a word this site loves… COOL. This box is immensely cool. The art work on the multi-gatefold case is killer. Really beautiful. Lots of smarts went into every detail. I also just love the Siskel & Ebert shows being on here. The giddiness that those two with every new title. WONDERFUL! God, I can’t wait to see DJANGO UNCHAINED!


 



HEAVEN’S GATE Criterion Blu

This disc did not come in time for review – so I’m picking it up today. Getting Cimino’s original vision of HEAVEN’S GATE preserved like this is a great thing for film lovers. Walken is to be seen in this! Can’t wait to check this out. The film has become identified as being the BLOATED AUTEUR EGO GONE INSANE, but from the vantage point of 2012, it’s hard to imagine that HEAVEN’S GATE was ever something that could sink a studio… There was more to it than that, but it is a great lesson in Hollywood, I highly recommend reading up on it. OR just check out Criterion’s Blu which is loaded with extras, as usual:

New, restored transfer of director Michael Cimino’s cut of the film, supervised by Cimino

New restoration of the 5.1 surround soundtrack, supervised by Cimino, in DTS-HD Master Audio on the Blu-ray edition

New illustrated audio interview with Cimino and producer Joann Carelli

New interviews with actor Kris Kristofferson, soundtrack arranger and performer David Mansfield, and second assistant director Michael Stevenson

The Johnson County War, a video interview with historian Bill O’Neal about the real-life conflict that inspired the film, and its resonance in popular culture

Trailer and TV spots

PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by critic and programmer Giulia D’Agnolo Vallan




GRAVE OF THE FIREFLIES

A brilliant anti-war animated film by Isao Takahata. It will make you cry. Be assured. You will find you have a heart and a soul, both of which this film will torment like a piñata. Set in Japan, toward the end of WWII. The film focuses on a young fourteen year old boy and his 4 year old sister as they survive a fairly horrible firebombing that takes their mother – and it is just… a great great film. Great anime!




CHRISTMAS WITH DANNY KAYE

:This is the Season 1 Christmas episode of THE DANNY KAYE SHOW and Season 4’s Christmas episode. Together you get performances by Nat King Cole, Mary Tyler Moore, Peggy Lee, Wayne Newton and of course Danny Kaye himself! There’s something about old Christmas TV Shows that just feel magical and otherworldly. I think you’ll agree.




THE POINT: The Definitive Collector’s Edition

Got a kid feeling a tad disenfranchised. Alone. They seem alien to you? Sit them down and watch THE POINT. You’ll be all better. The story of ol Oblio and his round head in a pointy head world… I LOVES IT! Oblio and Arrow, necessary for all good souls. Harry Nilsson is awesome! I promise.




RAMROD Blu Ray

Andre De Toth directs this very strange Western. For one, I have a lot of trouble accepting Veronica Lake in a Western setting. She just seem crafted from the forties soooooo much. Then you have Joel McCrea, whom I usually want to laugh with in what is most definitely a Western Film Noir. I think McCrea had a much stronger Western turn in RIDE THE HIGH COUNTRY, but this film’s oddness is its strength. I couldn’t look away. Really is a Western Noir.




THE TRAP Blu Ray

Wanna see a movie with GINGER from Gilligan’s Island? The film had Eastwood & Hitch’s magic Henry Bumstead designing the movie and it’s damn good! I love a good Richard Widmark movie. He made a lot of them. Bad guys and good guys. Widmark plays a mobster’s lawyer that returns to his hometown. Shit goes down. Thus THE TRAP title. Great title to check out!


 



THE PETE WALKER COLLECTION (HOUSE OF WHIPCORD, DIE SCREAMING MARIANNE, THE COMEBACK, SCHIZO) Blu Ray

Pete Walker was a British director in the Seventies that made some pretty fun horror flicks. From the set so far, I’ve just seen SCHIZO and it was a good bunch of fun. In Schizo you have a fairly basic Slasher movie plot – but I still dug the hell out of it. Next I’m checking out DIE SCREAMING MARIANNE, which stars Susan George of DIRTY MARY CRAZY LARRY and STRAW DOGS. She’s always pretty wonderful to watch on film. Love sets like these, they get you started on a director. Great transfer on SCHIZO too!




BEIJING PUNK

I haven’t seen this, but I want to. I love documentaries when they show us how our culture has migrated and what has become of it in the process. PUNK as a movement in China is just absolutely fascinating to me. Underground culture can transform the world. This bears watching.


That’s it for this week. Next, we’ll be looking at MEN IN BLACK 3, PARANORMAN, LAWLESS, THE DAY, THE APPARITION, RITES OF SPRING, THE DEVIL’S PLAYGROUND – and with it being a really light week that week, I’ll see about getting some of them catchup columns done too.

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  • Nov. 20, 2012, 5:50 a.m. CST

    Beijing Punk

    by allyousay

    I can imagine punk rock really catching fire there.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 5:53 a.m. CST

    DEATH PROOF > INGLORIOUS BASTERDS

    by GravyAkira

    True Romance and Pulp Fiction are really something special. Great looking set.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 5:55 a.m. CST

    The Point

    by mrbong

    amazing album and concept from a great musician. glad to see the film is available.

  • I still think you would like it much more a second time, since most problems you found with it were just nonsense. Bruce gave up the mantle of the Bat several times in the comics (in the one year later story he trained for a year and left Gotham alone for the whole time, with Harvey Dent as its protector). The same thing with your argument that Alfred would never leave Bruce in the comics. He did leave Bruce on numeral occasions, one of them the No Mans Land storyline, TDKR has borrowed much from. He even left him for muuuuuuuch lesser reasons than in the movie. And then finally, the ending. The ending was wonderful, because it gave Bruce something he will never ever get again... a happy ending. De to the serialized nature of the comics, that will never happen there. It was beautyful. Apart from that, he never said he would never return as Batman, if his protege wasn't up for the job. I don't think Bruce would just sit in that florence cafe, while the Joker burns down Gotham again. Of course he would return. He didn't left Batman behind him, at the end of the movie. He left the pain Batman meant to him behind. It was soooooo perfect and I really hope you will see it this way sometime in the future.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 6:27 a.m. CST

    With youR disappointment

    by MariusXe

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 6:32 a.m. CST

    The Point should have been the original Dustin Hoffman narration

    by Lao_Che_Air_Freight

    For those of us who remember watching it on TV when it was first broadcast...

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 6:36 a.m. CST

    Here's the Hoffman version

    by Lao_Che_Air_Freight

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xl50qKVkqE

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 7:07 a.m. CST

    Dark Knight Rises - SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER ALERT!

    by DidntPullOutInTimeCop

    Loved the film, but the ending didn't seem right. SPOILERS: At the end when Alfred's at the café, he looks up and sees someone, surprised, smiles and nods, kinda straight into the camera if memory serves. Then walks away. It should have ended there, we didn't need to see who he saw, it was already explained. There were a few more moments in the film where it explained way more than it ever had to. Moments that really took me out of the film and thinking "this must be studio interference". Still loved it, thought Bane was fucking amazing. END SPOILERS

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 7:19 a.m. CST

    Simon West's Best Film!!!

    by Righteous Brother

    ever heard of the expression 'damning with faint praise'? and it's gotta be 'Con-Air' isn't it?

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 7:30 a.m. CST

    Actually, Disney's "The Alamo" was a major, major bomb...

    by MovieManStill

    ...but it's never mentioned in discussions of financial film disasters. The budget on IMDb doesn't include the marketing, which was enormous (but not effective). I remember when "Heaven's Gate" came out, and I saw it only once. It will be interesting to see this version.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 7:30 a.m. CST

    Harry, how about you WATCH the DVDS before reviewing them? KTHNX.

    by fireclown

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 7:36 a.m. CST

    nice to see real animation represented here

    by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch

    because sadly, things like The Point and The Cinderella seem to be consigned to the past. people just don't seem to care much about animation anymore. drawn by hands and not on tablets. it has been YEARS since animation left the movie screens and TV.... contrast a movie like The Point with say.... the recent LORAX movie, and all you can say is God, kids today are being cheated.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 7:36 a.m. CST

    Slow down!

    by DrGogol

    Two articles in two WEEKS!? You'll get a hernia!

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 7:39 a.m. CST

    There is also a version of The Point with Mickey Dolenz narration

    by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch

    I've always wanted to see it Ringo was Harry Nilsson's best friend. So this is appropriate anyway, and probably how Harry wanted it. Harry Nilsson is one of the reasons I play music. And sing all the parts, just like he would, a one man Beach Boy.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 7:40 a.m. CST

    So the way to get these out on time now

    by DrGogol

    Is to write tiny little blurbs on each film. Where's the Knowles high wordcount enthusiasm? The insane turn of phrase? The over-the-top fanboy stereotype? I can get this boring crap elsewhere.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Lucille Bliss, Voice of Crusader Rabbit and Smurfette, Dies at 96

    by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch

    too bad they had to go and make that Katy Perry/ Neil Patrick Harris movie. Would have been nice to hear her in the role one last time. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/18/arts/television/lucille-bliss-voice-of-smurfette-dies-at-96.html?_r=3&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1353398490-fimFgT0uPnBwD87tH+u5eQ http://www.tmz.com/2012/11/17/smurf-michael-bell-smurfette-lucille-bliss-rip-comment/

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 7:52 a.m. CST

    for the love of God no, CGI Popeye film to have Smurfs writers-

    by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch

    Genndy Tartakovsky made the closest thing I've seen to the original spirit of Star Wars when he made the Clone Wars 2D shorts, and Samurai Jack sadly, now he's doing CGI features with sitcom actors just like everybody else. http://doorq.com/2012/11/19/horror-renewed-666-resort-gone-casting-on-starzs-black-sails-new-popeye-transylvania-2-more-pinocchio/

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 7:55 a.m. CST

    for the love of God no, CGI Popeye film to have Smurfs writers-

    by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch

    sad to see Genndy Tartakovsy doing CGI features with sitcom actors just like everyone else. http://doorq.com/2012/11/19/horror-renewed-666-resort-gone-casting-on-starzs-black-sails-new-popeye-transylvania-2-more-pinocchio/

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Thanksgiving Menu, food for thought -

    by Jacob Underhill

    - Passed Hors d' Oeuvres: Set in Japan, toward the end of WWII. I appreciate it greater. -Amuse': The giddiness that those two with every new title. -Soup Course: And I’d be lying if I didn’t say how much I love “A Dream Is A Wish Your Heart Makes.” -Salad (meatless): and with it being a really light week that week, I’ll see about getting some of them catchup columns done too. -Pasta ala Russe: This set celebrates the 20th anniversary of Tarantino upon cinema. -Fish: Walken is to be seen in this! -Intermezzo: an entirely different plane of existence -Entree: You will find you have a heart and a soul, both of which this film will torment like a piñata. -Cheese: The music, Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo is just too great. -Dessert: Got a kid feeling a tad disenfranchised. Alone. They seem alien to you? -Apres Prandial: She just seem crafted from the forties soooooo much. -This just in from our Dept. of 'Are you just pooping thoughts randomly out onto the page?': *Andre De Toth directs this very strange Western. For one, I have a lot of trouble accepting Veronica Lake in a Western setting. She just seem crafted from the forties soooooo much. Then you have Joel McCrea, whom I usually want to laugh with in what is most definitely a Western Film Noir. I think McCrea had a much stronger Western turn in RIDE THE HIGH COUNTRY, but this film’s oddness is its strength. I couldn’t look away. Really is a Western Noir.* -Late Entry from the 'Trenchant Movie Evaluation' Dept.: *Bad guys and good guys.*

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 8:17 a.m. CST

    I love me some Tarantino, but Django Trailers on the Box Set?

    by Nichole

    Kind of taints it, in my opinion.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 8:24 a.m. CST

    How is the blu transfer for CINDERELLA?

    by Logan_1973

    I'VE read feedback about the SNOW WHITE blu transfer, which was actually too good and took away the soft glow the film had. Harsh was the word most commonly used to describe it.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Harry, please ask Quentin why...

    by Phimseto

    ...in this era of multiple movie versions, we still don't have that single cut of Kill Bill that we've been waiting on for ten years?

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Did Harry see LINCOLN or SKYFALL?

    by Robert Evans

    Did he fall asleep or could he not be bothered to give them a write up?

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 9:25 a.m. CST

    GRAVE OF THE FIREFLIES is art.

    by FlickaPoo

    Stunning. I want to watch it again, but I have a 5 yo daughter now...I don't know if I can handle it.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Dont piss me off, Art!

    by jimmy gomez

    Were going to have the hap hap happiest Christmas since Bing Crosby tap danced with Danny fucking Kay!

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Didntpulloutintimecop, DARK KNIGHT RISES spoilers

    by D.Vader

    SPOILERS! BUT the audience needed to see that Bruce was happy. If we focus on Alfred, we get that Bruce is alive- but that's ALL we get. We need to see that he gets his happy ending, that he is genuinely smiling, AND that he gets his happy ending with his perfect counterpart, Selina. And we see that he has willingly given his mother's pearl necklace to her too. That's an important metaphor for being able to finally leave the past behind, that he was able to give it to someone else. So yes, I'd argue it was necessary to show the audience what Alfred was looking at, for much more than just confirmation that its Bruce.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 10:10 a.m. CST

    BTW Harry...

    by jimmy gomez

    Good job on getting the dvd picks out 2 weeks in a row. Kudos, and all that good stuff. (Although, I'm sure somebody WILL complain about them being ON time.)

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Oh and..

    by UltraTron

    FBI guys love slurping shit covered sperm out of men's assholes. So do cops. Be sure to end all communications from now on with sentences like this if that bill goes though.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 10:30 a.m. CST

    New transfer for TRUE ROMANCE?

    by godoffireinhell

    Because the old transfer of the stand-alone release is a pile of shit.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 10:37 a.m. CST

    I'd buy the Tarantino set if it had The Whole Bloody Affair

    by Jet Jaguar

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Simon West's best film? I think that is the definition of damning with faint praise.

    by openthepodbaydoorshal

    Love Taratino's reaction to the Disney/Lucasfilm deal, stating along the lines of he's not looking forward to a Simon West Star Wars.....must be thinking of the Touchstone '90s output...

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 10:46 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    GRAVE OF THE FIREFLIES, is that a Studio Ghibli release, sure looks like it. Although I love the Japs now I dont have a massive amount of sympathy for them in WWII, they had a record of inhuman atrocities equal in cruelty to that of the Nazis.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 11:07 a.m. CST

    cobes

    by Robert Evans

    They cant all be bad. just look at EMPIRE OF THE SUN..the prison camp dude let Jamie have his soap. yeah he beat the shit out of Malkovich but he cried when he heard Christian Bale singing..

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 11:47 a.m. CST

    The new Tarantino set doesn't look worth it.

    by Samuel Fulmer

    I mean, most of those films on blu ray I bought up already for really low prices last Christmas shopping time (Jackie Brown for 4 bucks and Inglorious Basterds for 7 bucks from Target, the Kill Bills for 7 bucks apiece from Best Buy, Pulp Fiction for 5 bucks from not sure where). The Resevoir Dogs and True Romance transfers barely look better then the DVD counterparts, and the Death Proof DVD looks good enough that I wouldn't bother with a blu ray of it. Unless you want the new documentary and the packaging, wait unless you can find it for a really low price.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 11:50 a.m. CST

    And no From Dusk Till Dawn

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Seems weird. I understand why NBK isn't on there (even though having read the original script, Stone's film is way better) because Tarantino doesn't like it, but I did't know he disowned From Dusk Till Dawn.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 11:50 a.m. CST

    d.vader TDKR SPOILERS!

    by DidntPullOutInTimeCop

    BEWARE SPOILERS! Those are really good points, I will see the movie again with that in mind. Just when I saw it, the ending kinda came off as too happy? Bruce smiling, sitting there with Selina, was it too much? At that moment I didn't think it fit the movie. And Alfred said before that he always imagined that scenario, and he did seem pleased with what he saw. Would Bruce even go there for Alfred to see him if he wasn't happy? But as I said, really good points and I will revisit and perhaps change my mind!

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 11:53 a.m. CST

    If anyone cares the big rumored Amazon Cyber Saturday deal

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Is The Indiana Jones blu ray collection for 30 bucks.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Rises was a mess

    by Steve Lamarre

    It had a villain that was uninteresting and redubbed at the last second. And no logical explanation why he wears his stupid mask. His evil plan was convoluted, turning the 99% into a violent mob and giving them "hope". It started feeling like a right-wing wet dream in some parts. A back injury that requires the spine to be punched back into place, so laughable. And sure, Bruce did give the Bat-mantle to others over the years, but the film starts off with Bruce as a loser, sulking around the mansion and practicing archery for 8 years. Batman lost a lot of people close to him in the comics, but he wouldn't just give up like that.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Didntpuloutintimecop, TDKR SPOILERS!

    by D.Vader

    ENDING SPOILERS! DO NOT READ! I will say that as I watched the ending, I thought the more elegant choice would have been to go the Monsters Inc route and not show us what Alfred is seeing, BUT I do think its really important for us to see that Bruce is completely happy and at peace after years of emotional torment. Its one thing for us to know Bruce is alive and there, but its another thing for us to actually see him smiling for the first real time in his life. Its like seeing Frodo turn at the end of ROTK, that's the first real smile and real bit of comforting happiness he's had since the whole affair began. Its important for the character arc and resolution for us to realize his story is finally, happily over. Check it out next time you see it! First time I watched it, I didn't even catch that Selina was wearing the pearl necklace!

  • Nov. 20, 2012, noon CST

    Rises is the Best Nolan Batfilm

    by Samuel Fulmer

    But Batman Returns is still the best one.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 12:01 p.m. CST

    d.vader

    by DidntPullOutInTimeCop

    Will do, almost feel like watching it right now.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Not sure what the confusion is on the DKR ending

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Bruce faked his/Batman's death, goes off with Selina, and Alfred sees them together. This ain't Once Upon a Time in America people. Bruce ain't hopped up in an Opium den while Bane blew up Gotham.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 12:07 p.m. CST

    If it wasn't so long, I'd watch TDKR right now

    by D.Vader

    Oh, and if I had it I mean...

  • But that's it, he quit. Move on to Simon West's Batman if you can't handle the truth.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Neither of us is arguing any of that, Samuel Fulmer

    by D.Vader

    If you were referring to me and Didntpulloutintimecop.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 12:20 p.m. CST

    I know Vader

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Just throwing it out there because I've seen that posted in several talkbacks discussing DKR.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 12:21 p.m. CST

    TDKR Ending Spoilers... agreed, D. Vader

    by Mattman

    ENDING SPOILERS Yeah, agree with D.Vader. Not seeing Bruce would have been very artistic, BUT... the problem is you need to see him with Selina, otherwise her character would just disappear. It would be obvious that Alfred is seeing Bruce, but it wouldn't be obvious that he's with Selina.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 12:35 p.m. CST

    DV--i couldnt have said it better about the ending of TDKR

    by Robert Evans

    perfect. succinct. courteous.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST

    mattman

    by Robert Evans

    or as DV so elequently put it, that Selina was also wearing the pearls from Bruce. He has moved on from grieving about his parents and Batman. A true ending to this tale.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Simon West's BATMAN:

    by Robert Evans

    More homoeroticism than all of Robert Mapplethrope's work, but in skin-tight kevlar ... Hmmm, has potential.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 12:39 p.m. CST

    sam fulmer

    by Robert Evans

    apparently on the QT box set there is 30 minutes of special features on TWO blu rays (stretching it to ten discs) though you wouldnt know from Harry's review of the actual discs. for all we know, he opened it, looked at the art and put it on the shelf. had this had KILL BILL: THE WHOLE BLOODY AFFAIR, this would be a non issue. And totally bought.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 12:40 p.m. CST

    You forgot "handsome", Choppah

    by D.Vader

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Of course, there's an even deeper meaning to the pearl necklace:

    by Robert Evans

    CUMSHOT!

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 12:43 p.m. CST

    I think the only ingredient missing from Rises

    by JP

    is the Joker. If Ledger was still alive it would've made for the perfect trilogy.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 12:43 p.m. CST

    TDKR needs a fan-edit - SPOILERS

    by reni

    SPOILERS: TDKR works better a second/third time. I'd have taken out JGL's visit to Wayne Manor. I'd have also taken out Alfred's revelation about Rachel & have him leave after warning Bruce about Bane in the bat cave. Take out Gordon watching Batman / LAPD chase on TV in the hospital. Take out the Miranda love scene. Take out Bane's o.s. 'What a lovely singing voice' or something... It ruined the build-up at the ball game. Bruce should have escaped into exile & found the Lazurus Pit (or whatever it is) and done some Rocky training. Nolan could've altered the 90 days bomb ticking-malarky to make the time scale shorter, more immediate. Shame, lots of good stuff in it.

  • He hardly ever mentions when the picture is bad or what kind of extras you get or how its different from the last release that the press releases don't tell you. In other words, he hardly really works on this stuff except to write.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 12:46 p.m. CST

    "I haven’t seen this, but I want to."

    by D.Vader

    Well, don't you have the disc right there in front of you??

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 12:49 p.m. CST

    choppah-Not 100% sure

    by Samuel Fulmer

    But I've read that some of the extra content on one of the Tarantino discs are just slightly longer versions of the Elvis Mitchell roundtables from The Jackie Brown and Pulp Fiction discs. For me it would be a possible purchase if I didn't already own almost all of these films on blu ray, but with very little extra, I'd pass. I don't even care about the Whole Bloody Affair, but Kill Bill definitely could use some better extras. The ones on the blu rays are just ported over from the old DVDs.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 12:51 p.m. CST

    why do we cum, master bruce?

    by Robert Evans

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Horror blu rays for 2013-Since AICN hasn't reported it

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Scream Factory (shout factory) will be bringing out The Fog, Lifeforce, The Burning, and Night of the Comet next year.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:04 p.m. CST

    DV

    by Robert Evans

    im not a fan of Cinderella but i like this and this and this and this and that and this and that and this and that over there and NOMNOMNOM

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:05 p.m. CST

    NIGHT OF THE COMET?!?!

    by Robert Evans

    Sweet Mother Catherine Mary Stewart in HD!!!

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:05 p.m. CST

    reni, fan edits are lame

    by Mattman

    I want to see what the filmmaker intended, for better or worse. If fans had their way, Batman would be running around in blue underwear.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:06 p.m. CST

    d.vader, to be fair, Harry doesn't know dick about transfers

    by Mattman

    He praised the Excalibur HD-DVD transfer, which was considered one of the worst high def transfers of all time.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Oh and The Howling too

    by Samuel Fulmer

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Underground culture that transform's the world...

    by 9000rpm

    ...never transforms the world into a better world. If only their were more Pattons in the world to bitch slap every air-headed punk and hippy into line - and then run them over with a tank.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:08 p.m. CST

    reni--thouse are all pretty stupid cuts. sorry

    by Robert Evans

    im not gonna tip toe around it but that would make the film so much worse. please just stop. most if not all of those scenes you refer to are essential to the back story or character arcs of the protagonist and side characters. jesus...im speechless.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Celebration Day Blu?

    by Doug Phillips

    Would love to hear your thoughts on the Celebration Day Blu release Harry.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Cobra! Re: GAVE OF THE FIREFLIES...

    by FlickaPoo

    Yeah, it's Studio Ghibli. The story is about just these two kids...it could be any two children adrift in any post apocalyptic disaster area, really.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:11 p.m. CST

    mattman-You you mentioned HD-DVD and Harry in the same post

    by Samuel Fulmer

    As Butthead would say -huh huh...huh huh

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:13 p.m. CST

    chop

    by reni

    I hated 'em. Sorry. I'll get my coat!

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:14 p.m. CST

    I wonder if a shell from Patton's tank...

    by 9000rpm

    ...take out both Fonda and Hopper on their Harleys? With a few fragments left over for Jane.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Agree choppah about those cuts

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Sometimes movies get cut to shreds, and characters/plot seem either wasted or make no sense. I think that's my biggest beef with the Marc Webb Spider-Man movie. It's 140 minutes, but it still is readily apparant that huge chunks of the film were tossed out. Looked like something that needed editing before it went in front of cameras, not after it.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Samuel fulmer

    by Mattman

    Bwahaha

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Cobra_kai

    by allouttabubblegum

    Grave of fireflies is a Ghibli film. It was double billed with Totoro in its initial japanese release. The Japs did a lot of atricous things during WW2 this film is more about the victims of war in general. The innocent. The children. It doesnt paint the japanese rulers in a good light. It also depicts how the war orphans were left to rot and starve by the then japanese government. Its a hard film to watch even when you dont have kids. Probably the most powerful anti war film made.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:25 p.m. CST

    reni SPOILERSSS!!!!

    by Robert Evans

    lets knock em out one by one.. *JGL visit to Wayne Manor hints at that he might know who Bruce Wayne actually is. *Alfred leaving was Bruce hitting rock bottom. some would say that he would never leave Master Bruce and would always be there thru thick and thin but Alfred was giving him tough love..trying to scare him into not returning to the cowl. As any family member of an addict would tell you, its best for all to sometimes just walk away, or at least threaten it. *broadens the scope and excitement that Bats has indeed returned. Of course Gordon would be watching a breaking news story of Bane robbing Wall Street which itself turns into Batman returning in the most spectacular way. As we see from final minutes of the film, the Batman saga is as much Gordon's story as it is Wayne's. *shows that Bruce lets his guard down once in a while. it also lets the auidence's guard down as well allowing the reveal at the end to be so much sweeter. *its a throwaway line. it shows that Bane does have a heart for the little things. there are worse things to complain about. *im kinda confused here. he shouldve escaped and trained on his own? This goes against the motif of "falling to rise again" *shortening the timeline of the bomb wouldve muted the triumphant return of Batman and made it incongrous. He was on the other side of the world, apparently and still needed to heal afterall. Hope that helps clear some things up.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:25 p.m. CST

    DKR ending (spoilers)

    by HornOrSilk

    Come on, it's meant to be seen as Alfred's dream come to life: but doesn't that mean it's only a dream? The whole movie was one long dream. Didn't you know that?

  • Because he still clicks the button.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:29 p.m. CST

    The love scene shows that Bruce has a working dick

    by Mattman

    SPOILERS It's necessary, given that it's been in question during the entire series. That's why Selina has a satisfied smile on her face at the end (and a pearl necklace).

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:31 p.m. CST

    mattman

    by Robert Evans

    plus..batman aint gonna marry the first girl he lays pipe in either.. hes gotta slay a few Gotham rats first...Miranda Tate, Selina's roommate, Krypto..

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:31 p.m. CST

    mimirsan

    by FlickaPoo

    Yeah, I think the masterpiece TOTORO was made specifically as an antidote to restore people's will to live and faith in humanity after watching GOTF.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Ridiculous Tarantino Collection

    by aceldama

    It blows my mind that anyone can get so much attention for such a career of mediocrity. He has made 2 1/4 worthwhile things in his career (Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction and his part of Four Rooms) and people slobber all over him more than he does over feet. It's really borderline pathetic.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Whole Bloody Affair?

    by beastie

    I haven't been paying attention, for a while. Is this release still a plan?

  • I guess I can't say Chinese Democracy or Duke Nukem Forever anymore.

  • SPOILAAAARS The first gets herself blowed up (and wasn't gonna choose him anyway). The second stabs him in the fucking ribs, tries to blow up his city. The third and final one kills his worst enemy. I can't give Batman's dating process much credit. The women did all the work for him.

  • Derp!

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Four Rooms better than Kill Bill/Jackie Brown/Basterds

    by Robert Evans

    i dont fucking think so.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Thanks chop

    by reni

    All points accepted. I was disappointed. The plot holds up ok but it felt like they were underlining things much more than they did in BB or TDK. It does get better with repeated viewings. Don't hate me, bruv..!

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 2:01 p.m. CST

    reni

    by Robert Evans

    i was gonna say rewatch it. it is much better the second or third time. the pacing feels more natural and scenes are more realized. Whereas the first viewing, you arent really sure how it will all add up in the end.

  • In Nolans movies he never went after purse snatchers and that was good this way. As TDKR clearly showed, he always waited for another big crime, to give him purpose again. Sure, Rachels death devastated him, but it wasn't the reason he wasn't around that long. For all we know, he went out a few times, after TDK, until there was no organized crime left when the Dent act took.

  • The nuclear explosion thing: There is no radiation fallout from a neutron bomb! The "how did he get from the prison back to Gotham so fast"- thing: he didn't do it fast, since you could see that weeks passed between his breakout and his arrival in Gotham. You just have to pay attention to the timeframe of the explosion deadline. About the how part... do you really question how a guy who can appear and disappear out of thin air, might have been able to sneak aboard a plane and sneak into militarized zone? Please. Even if he didn't used his Ninja skills, he still is one of the most influential guys in the world.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Creepy is wrong. FACT!

    by MariusXe

    I really hate that fact shit, you stupid fuck.

  • Really? So Scarlett Johansson, Carrie Anne Moss, Piper Parabo, Rebecca Hall, and, hell Katie Holmes, are fugly? I'll give you Hilary Swank and Maggie Gyllenhall...

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 2:41 p.m. CST

    mariusxe, John Ary apparently thinks editing is in real time

    by Mattman

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 2:46 p.m. CST

    im really liking how TDKR isnt even released this week

    by Robert Evans

    or next for that matter and yet here we are talking about it... thats why this DVD column is important.. you see Ginger? you see!?

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Loved The Point so much growing up! Named my first dog Arrow.

    by captaincosmos

    Man, I miss that mutt... Can't wait to watch this with my kids!

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Creepythinman's idea of fugly

    by Mattman

    http://www.candyneige.com/encyclopedie/recre/movie/candy/Piper%20Perabo.jpg Look how hideous that is!

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 3:06 p.m. CST

    I think that's a gross overreaction, Creepy

    by D.Vader

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 3:09 p.m. CST

    mattman..you owe me a new keyboard

    by Robert Evans

    i just threw up all over mine.. nasty ass..

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Choppah, was your 'throw up' translucent and sticky?

    by Mattman

    Mine was. I think I should see a doctor.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Bowery Boys...

    by Terry Powell

    ...that's what I was most excited to see released. Warner Archive has 12 of their movies together in a Bowery Boys volume one.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 3:25 p.m. CST

    And really, Lifeforce on bluray?...

    by Terry Powell

    ...Mathilda May in hi-def(sigh).

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Always liked Creepy, but you're way off man.

    by JP

    Sure it's bloated as fuck, but it's not X3 caliber

  • I enjoyed Expendables 2, but a chimpanzee could have directed it... and did.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Why don't you TDKR lovers get a fucking room and suck each other off!

    by Deceased Fan

    I'll start because TDKR kicked fucking ass! SLURP! MAJOR ENDING SPOILERS!!! Totally agree with DV with the reveal being important. However Nolan fooled me for a second, thinking it would end with just Alfred. Which would've been totally fine, but would probably left me with a sinking feeling that Bruce really didn't make it. I prefer happy endings. Speaking of happy endings. Who's up for a massage?

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Deceased... that was fantastic, thank you. Time for a smoke.

    by Mattman

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Simon West's best film is the worst I've seen in my whole life

    by Lourdes Galan

    Pure crap

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Mattman. The pleasure was all mine.

    by Deceased Fan

    Hey, there's a DVD column up there. Who knew?

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 5:29 p.m. CST

    You actually expected Harry to watch and review all those movies?

    by IAmLegolas

    How can he do that when he'll watch a Tron Legacy or an Iron Man 7 times on a Sunday?

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Dustin Hoffman was the first narrator of The Point

    by Bungion Boy

    I saw that version years ago but don't think it's ever been rereleased in any of the home video versions.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 6:22 p.m. CST

    why are we talking about TDKR? doesn't come out for two weeks

    by sunwukong86

    Check amazon people. December 4th

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Still haven'

    by Flip63Hole

  • Can't help but wonder if what was released was a test screening. Seems to be so much wrong with it, I find it hard to believe Nolan won't be releasing the finished version next year. Really, zero redeeming qualities as an action movie, comic book movie, drama or anything. Harry saw through the hype. Nice we have an honest film geek on the internet, regardless of the fanboy outbursts.

  • ...they always look at me with a crooked eyed gaze of confusion, disbelief and maybe a bit of fear. Gonna be screening that thing for a lot of people.

  • Van Damme's 1st big release in God knows when or a few cameos here and there doesn't make up for such uninspiring direction...these movies were the equivalent of standing in front of your biggest crush and not being able to get an erection.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 9 p.m. CST

    TDKR was terrible, dont know why are we even discussing this...

    by Seth Brundle

    did you guys watched the same movie? the script was A-T-R-O-C-I-O-U-S not even close to TDK

  • Personally, I enjoyed TDKR more than Batman Begins and it's inarguably better than Batman Forever and Batman And Robin. As I said in a different thread recently, in the end, the only real issue I have with TDKR is that NO ONE would ever be allowed to 'take over' 'Gotham' in any kind of a real life scenario. Now, I realize it's a comic book movie, not real life, but that just slammed me in the face as plot driven bullshit both times I watched it. The rest of the movie, I don't know, I don't think it has anything to do with the script. It just doesn't have the magic of TDK and it didn't give me the excitement (or anticipation) that TDK OR Batman Begins did. I still say, after having seen it twice, that Anne Hathaway was a shit choice for Catwoman.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 9:17 p.m. CST

    TDKR

    by chad kuhns

    Spoiler Alert!!!! I agree with much of what has been said here, but beyond seeing Bruce and Selina together, and Bruce happy, or even Alfred's hopes come to fruition, what the ending truly represents is the fully whole realization of everything Batman was meant to be. His explanation to Blake, that Batman could be anyone, was realized in the final scene, and seeing him with Selina realized what Bruce had talked about in TDK, about being able to walk away from the cowl when the time was right. It also showed that not only had he buried the pain of his parents death, but that he had moved on from the pain of losing Rachel as well. People may not like to associate Batman with flat out happy endings, but when you think of the tone of the film, and the overall arch being told, Fear...Chaos, and finally Revolution..., with all that Bruce has conquered and done..its only fitting to give the audience that visual acknowledgement, and to even further cement that Christopher Nolan, Christian Bale, and this incarnation of Batman have been laid to rest.

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 10:39 p.m. CST

    "Harry saw through the hype''

    by Mattman

    Harry 'saw through the hype' of TDKR... but loved Green Lantern. Yeah, he's a great judge of superhero movies.

  • sure! lets just skip the years of ninja training, the expertise in tons of martial arts, a whole applied sciences division doing exactly whatever artifact he needs and .....oh yeah.....HE'S A FUCKIN BILLIONAIRE....but yeah anyone fits that description right?

  • Nov. 20, 2012, 10:54 p.m. CST

    seth brundle, congrats on missing the point of that line

    by Mattman

  • Nov. 21, 2012, 12:24 a.m. CST

    Evildeeds!!! Finally somebody who gets it! Thank you!

    by MariusXe

  • Nov. 21, 2012, 12:36 a.m. CST

    seth brundle *batman can be anyone*

    by DidntPullOutInTimeCop

    it's the idea of it, anyone can be the hero, anyone and everyone can be good.

  • Nov. 21, 2012, 12:36 a.m. CST

    CALL IT RAMROD!

    by Tigger Tales

  • The brand new Eclipse box set, When Horror Came to Shochiku (as in Shochiku studios), came out yesterday, and I grabbed a copy for 50% off at Barnes and Noble. This box set, with The X from Outer Space, Goke, Body Snatcher from Hell, Genocide, and The Living Skeleton, is exactly the sort of thing that I always look forward to seeing reviewed in this column. I'd love to read Harry's take on these crazy-awesome low-budget monster/horror flicks.

  • Nov. 21, 2012, 8:14 a.m. CST

    New DKR ending as demanded by AICN whiners

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Alfered is at the cafe in France, he looks over, cut to shot of Kevin Clash and a young man making out with Elmo and Baby Sinclair puppets. Cut to shot of a CGI Richard Jeter as Mr. Noodle's brother Mr. Noodle shooting a gun at the camera a la the last shot of Goodfellas with Pesci (which in itself was a homage to the last shot of the 1903 The Great Train Robbery), Fade to Black, cue Hans Zimmer/Sex Pistols mash-up.

  • Nov. 21, 2012, 8:14 a.m. CST

    The Point without Dustin Hoffman narration

    by TinDrummer

    Is a travesty. Why oh why?

  • Nov. 21, 2012, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Heaven's Gate: will it finally get its due?

    by Dan

    Every review I've read so far has raved about it...and I'm not sure what to believe at this point... I recall Ebert hated it and ripped it a good one...but I remember seeing it vaguely as a kid, not bad, but the memory is too fuzzy to go on... I find it hard to believe that this film, one that is neither a masterpiece or a pile of shit could sink an entire studio...something else had to be afoot... something much bigger and more deserving. Directors have made flops before so why this one? Why did Cimino get put in Director jail?

  • Nov. 21, 2012, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Being a punk in China makes me laugh...

    by Dan

    all kinds of stupid.

  • Nov. 21, 2012, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Why did Cimino get put in Director jail?-Because

    by Samuel Fulmer

    He took a film way over budget, and it was all bankrolled by the studio, and then it just wasn't a crowd pleaser (to put it mildly). From all accounts he just took way too long and did way too many takes, and wasted way too much money. In a way you could say his methods were similar to Kubrick, but the thing with Kubrick is that he spent the studio's money wisely and even though he took a ton of time, all his films were profitable and if they weren't initially critically acclaimed, they usually weren't critically vilified either. Really the Heaven's Gate mess was used as a means by the producers and studios to take back control from the directors who were for the most part the driving force of 1970's cinema. That being said I like Heaven's Gate a lot, but most of my love for the film has to do with Vilmos Zsigmond's cinematography and the fly on the wall way of storytelling.

  • Nov. 21, 2012, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Coppola did a similar thing with Apocalypse Now

    by Samuel Fulmer

    But he put up his own money, or got a lot of the financing himself, and the film was a big commercial success.

  • Nov. 21, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Question for those who've seen TDKR blu-ray.

    by Silv

    Did they correct the mixed up scenes near the end?

  • Nov. 21, 2012, 10:51 a.m. CST

    @zodlovesmaude, why is punk in China stupid??

    by Andrew Quinsatt

    Fascinating but not stupid...

  • Nov. 21, 2012, 11:48 a.m. CST

    What was Tarantinos involvement with Killing Zoe?

    by donkey_lasher

    Was it as producer?

  • Nov. 21, 2012, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Heaven's Gate is no more...

    by Dan

    bloated than Apocalypse Now nor is it as great as that film and I'm not saying Camino didn't ask for it to an extent, but to be blackballed basically for these years for a film that is at worst, excessive in nearly every way, no way is it a terrible film...it just has always felt to me as an excuse for the studios to say, ENOUGH! WE WANT OUR POWER BACK! They needed a fallguy...

  • This may answer some of your questions on Cimino and Heaven's Gate.

  • What a goddamn genius!

  • Nov. 21, 2012, 8:32 p.m. CST

    PLEASE POST AN ARTICLE ABOUT TWINKIES

    by Metroid_Fetish

    WE KNOW YOU ARE UPSET, LET IT ALL OUT.

  • Nov. 21, 2012, 9:10 p.m. CST

    basterds is GARBAGE, f.u.

    by dryjism

    would keep pulp , reservoir, and maybe death proof . crap on the rest!

  • Nov. 21, 2012, 11:41 p.m. CST

    The Point on Blu!

    by Howard Beale

    This release makes me extremely Happy! One of the most cherished relics of my childhood. I would like to know if this release has the original dustin hoffman narration or ringo starr. There was some point in the 80's where ringo's narration was replaced with alan thicke. It Would be nice if we could get all three on this disc. Oh, and nilsson is just about the greatest voice that rock ever produced ,the father of the "singer songwriter". For sure a must buy for me.

  • Nov. 22, 2012, 12:48 a.m. CST

    because you NEED the commentary on EXPENDABLES 2

    by Nintendarth

    You have to understand the process.

  • Apparently Harry feels I have no heart and soul because it's possible for me to be entirely unmoved by a bunch of cartoons having imaginary events happen to them in an effort to create guilt in the audience about a necessary action because of Japan's alliance with Nazi powers. Sorry, no sympathy here for the imaginary drawings. I quote FRIENDS: Yes, I was very sad when that animator stopped drawing that cartoon dear. Please.

  • Nov. 22, 2012, 12:57 a.m. CST

    Harry Nilsson is one of THE worst composers on the planet, also.

    by Nintendarth

    I'm mean I'm mean I'm mean you know what I mean He's mean He's mean Now that's WRITING! Nostalgia sucks, people. It just sucks.

  • Nov. 22, 2012, 1:01 a.m. CST

    Kids today aren't being cheated.

    by Nintendarth

    They've lost the capacity to have imaginations because their parents and society discourage it. They want da da da da da da da circus afro da da da da da da and that's what they get. Nobody's being cheated. What you fail to understand is that the pure, artistic soul of humanity is dead. And as a result of that, we are the LAST generation with imagination, the people who are adults now. And not even many of us. Imagination -has- -died-. It can't come back. the spark ran out a while ago, around the late 60s. We're feeling it now. Welcome to the New Dark Age. May it reign forever.

  • They don't value it. So they get to be animals, feeding their faces and Angering their Birds. Go sit on a bus and watch people. Do you see a spark in any of them? Are they all asleep? Surprise.

  • Nov. 22, 2012, 1:10 a.m. CST

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YewA2JoQcgg

    by Nintendarth

    This is the new culture.

  • Nov. 22, 2012, 12:35 p.m. CST

    zodlovesmaude

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    From Ebert's review of Heaven's Gate: ****sidenote**** Not sure if AICN fixed the quotation marks bug so I'll refrain I know, I know; he's trying to demystify the West, and all the other things hotshot director's try to do when they don't really want to make a western. But this movie is a study in wretched excess. It is so smoky, so dusty, so foggy, so unfocused, and so brownish yellow that you want to try Windex on the screen. A director is in deep trouble when we do not even enjoy the primary act of looking at his picture....It is the most scandulous cinematic waste I have ever seen. Now, that's from Ebert's review of the film upon release. Back when Ebert was relevant and spot-on most of the time. I have not seen the film all the way through and I remember only attempting to do so once, many years ago. I found it boring....very boring....and just senseless. Ebert does explain in his review that the original cut that went to film festivals an d actually saw a theatrical release before being shredded by critics and quickly yanked from theaters was four hours long. The cut that was released after that, the cut Ebert is reviewing here and calling insipid, is only 140 minutes long. So, an hour and twenty minutes was hacked from the film, making it unwatchable according to Ebert. This Criterion release. Uhh....Harry? Which version is it? They are both the cinematic versions because both saw a release. Is it Cimino's original four hour cut, or the hour and fourty mintue cut re-released to try and satiate the critics? Either way, anyone who has ever seen the cinematic abortion that is the original American release of Once Upon A Time In America knows just how much you can fuck up a movie cutting over an hour from it. The difference being, however, Leone's 3 1/2 hour original cut is an absolute masterpiece. Ebert is sayiong that the four hour cut was even worse regarding Heaven's Gate. I know it killed a studio and basically ruined both Cimino's career at it's post-Deer hunter peak, but its' failure along with the blockbuster success of Jaws and Star Wars was largely repsonsible for ending the director's era in American filmmaking. I'd like to check it out again, first to see if I can make it through it, and if so, to see if it's really that bad, lol. What i would like to know, though, is which version is this release and am I a fucking idiot if I go and spend Criterion level money on a disc that I'm actually pretty sure I will not like..at all. So what's up?

  • Nov. 22, 2012, 12:49 p.m. CST

    zodlovesmaude

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    To put it into a little more modern perspective: Remember when Cameron was almost done filming Titanic and all of Hollywood was in a panic, and everyone siad that it was gonna lose more money than any other movie had ever lost before and Cameron was a control freak who flew completely out of control on this one? Remember there were reports that he'd doubled, maybe even tripled his budget? Now, Heaven's Gate was a lot like that. Add on to that the fact that Cimino was a notorious prick and a nightmare for the studios to deal with, closing his sets off to studio snitches. Everything a director could do to piss off a studio, he did. Now, add on to that the fact that this was the director's era. Watch Raging Bulls and Easy Riders or even better, read the book. The directors had all the power at all the sudios and these vanguard movies were winning awards and making money. So all that tension, along with the producers and studio heads desperate to wrestle back control happened at the same time that Jaws came out and Star Wars right on its heels. Studios saw the formula for major tentpole films and realized that great maverick directors werent needed to make huge profits. So Cimino being one of the most notorious of these directors and super high profile from killing it a few years earlier with The Deer Hunter took over Heaven's Gate completely and told the studio to fuck off. The movie hit the theaters and it was a disaster. A very high profile, very very expensive total failure. So the studio hung Cimino by his nuts out on Main Street so every director could see it. He was made an example of, basically.

  • If your interpretation of Bruce Wayne/Batman is that anyone can be a hero like Bruce Wayne/Batman then your interpretation of Batman is lame. Bruce Wayne is Batman because of who he is combined with what happened to him. Most people who see their parents murdered just turn out depressed. Some will become obsessed like Bruce, but not to his degree, and they wouldn't have millions of dollars to work with if they were obsessed to that degree. As is often said, Bruce's money is his superpower.

  • I rewatched this last night and while it kept my interest I just don't see the need to watch it again, not even in another 15 years.

  • But it was really not all that involving. I didn't feel swept up in it and there were only like two holy shit moments in three hours.

  • Nov. 22, 2012, 9:26 p.m. CST

    dancetothebeatofthelivingdead -

    by Dan

    Thanks... I knew all that and that's the conclusion I came to as did everyone else apparently... thanks!

  • Nov. 22, 2012, 9:27 p.m. CST

    It's just amazing how ONE guy....

    by Dan

    killed the best era of moviemaking in the history of the medium...

  • Nov. 23, 2012, 1:32 a.m. CST

    autodidact

    by DidntPullOutInTimeCop

    it's not about the gadgets, money, training. It's about doing good, being a hero. We have heroes even here in the real world, but we could need someone like Batman to inspire more people to be heroes.

  • Nov. 23, 2012, 10:06 a.m. CST

    And Bruce's obsession is his ability to not go nuts...

    by Dan

    His circumstance should have sent him over the edge, but he channelled it into a positive thing. Nolan may not have got it, but what he did with it, is the best take so far. It's about rising from the depths of personal hell, (I like how Bruce's hell was literally in the form of the prison) and overcoming, perhaps inspiring others to do good deeds. Bruce is a decent man because he is obsessed in stopping shit behavior and preventing its victims to feel his type of pain. He could have had his revenge years ago and by just gonig Bronson-Death Wish on their asses, but he knows better and he's the better person. That's what Bruce Wayne is about and it nails Batman too... Tim Burton never even came close to nailing either character....

  • Remember who Kurt Russell called on who to ghost direct Tombstone after the studio got rid of Kevin Jarre? Sly Stallone. Stallone has done a bunch of movies where someone has ghost directed for him. So lets drop this pretense that Simon West directed Expendables 2. Stallone directed it plain and simple. Why else do you think Stallone's fight with Van Damme was so one sided with Stallone winning too easily. By the way I loved Expendables 2, but wish Stallone would have get beaten up some more before he finished off Van Damme.

  • Nov. 24, 2012, 3:43 a.m. CST

    RIP Larry Hagman

    by Dingbatty

  • Nov. 24, 2012, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Good to see TDKR is almost universally loved here!

    by IAmTommyWiseau

    I am here to say that I agree with you all! It was a great movie and I can't wait to own it!!!

  • Nov. 24, 2012, 2 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Rises is coming out??

    by thelordofhell

    Sorry, I was watching The Avengers for the 100th time to care.................

  • Nov. 24, 2012, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Hated TDKR - awful.

    by Nintendarth

    HIGHLANDER 2 levels of bad. I'm not provoking. I really mean it.

  • Just one example of the terrible writing the brothers Nolan did for this one.

  • Except in Nolan's case, he had no one to blame but himself. Ridley can scapegoat Lindelof, and deservedly so.

  • I'm really angry that that lindelof guy is forcing me to film this.

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 7:55 a.m. CST

    You know who you are

    by UltraTron

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 9:18 a.m. CST

    ultron, you can't say that Prometheus was poorly directed.

    by SergeantStedenko

    It is pretty clear to me that Scott stuck closely to Lindeloff's script, to the detriment of the film. Is it Ridley's fault for not recognizing the huge plot holes and crappy contrivances in the story? Absolutely! You are correct in that regard. And I would say that as evidenced from his last few films, Scott has definitely lost his touch. But, the screenplay was all Lindelof. After watching 6 years of Lost, I think I can pick out all of Lindelof's corn from the crap that was Prometheus. That said, I am a huge Lost fan.

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 9:20 a.m. CST

    I want to see it like

    by UltraTron

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 9:20 a.m. CST

    in forbidden planet when they zap it with ray guns and you see it

    by UltraTron

  • you had already taken a sip before realizing it was shit milk?

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 10:21 a.m. CST

    You should've hyped that Pete Walker set more, Harry!

    by seppukudkurosawa

    He's the closest thing England has to all those seedy, seemy, other s-wordy Giallo auteurs. I reckon that set's missing his two best films, though: Frightmare (cannibal grannies!) and House of Mortal Sin (Walker seemed to have a thing for horrors with House in the title). All B-Movie/Horror connoisseurs need to seek him out. Oh by the way, hi again, aintitcool! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 1:21 p.m. CST

    TDKR

    by ben

    Please don't even comment on it Harry. We all know it's coming out, we all know what it is, and any comment from you will just ignite a talkback apocalypse.

  • -- what the hell kind of a kid is that?! A hitler I tell ya! Nolan sucks, his Batman movies suck and anyone who likes them most be hiding homosexuality. Hey, all superhero movies suck! Go read a comicbook, pervert!

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