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HBO ordered a fourth season of “Boardwalk Empire” way back on Oct. 2. How season three ends:
TONIGHT
Episode #34: “A Man, a Plan…”
Nucky reaches out to Gaston Means to keep Jess Smith quiet in Washington, and enlists Owen to neutralize Gyp’s alliance with Joe Masseria (Ivo Nandi) in New York. Margaret considers alternate futures, at the hospital and at home; Van Alden’s side business backfires; Gyp fumes when a shipment comes up short; Harrow coerces an apology for Julia (Wrenn Schmidt); Chalky (Michael Kenneth Williams) sees opportunity in the ashes of a boardwalk institution. Written by Dave Flebotte; directed by Jeremy Podeswa.
NEXT SUNDAY
Episode #35: “Two Imposters”
Gyp makes his move in Atlantic City, forcing Nucky and Eddie (Anthony Laciura) to seek refuge with Chalky. With the Artemis Club overrun by Rosetti thugs, Gillian contemplates a business future that includes an unwelcome partner. Luciano (Vincent Piazza) makes a deal he’ll come to regret; Harrow loses his house privileges. Written by Howard Korder; directed by Allen Coulter.
DEC. 2
Episode #36: “Margate Sands” (season finale)
Desperate to weaken Gyp’s (Bobby Cannavale) alliance with Masseria (Ivo Nandi) and reclaim Atlantic City, Nucky (Steve Buscemi) cedes control of one of his prized assets to Rothstein (Michael Stuhlbarg). Harrow (Jack Huston) returns to Gillian’s (Gretchen Mol) brothel for some unfinished business; Luciano (Vincent Piazza) is forced to take on a new heroin partner after being arrested in New York; Chalky (Michael Kenneth Williams) and Capone (Stephen Graham) put their enmity on hold while taking on Masseria’s men; Margaret (Kelly Macdonald) decides to end one relationship and considers resuming another. Written by Terence Winter and Howard Korder; directed by Tim Van Patten.
9 p.m. Sunday. HBO.
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Nov. 18, 2012, 2:57 a.m. CST
Yyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeesssssssss..............Got that out of the way!
by sauronthepowerful
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No fucking way that clip with Nucky opening the box isn't Owen's fresh corpse.
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Hopefully it involves Harrow single handedly destroying Gyp's gang, putting a bullet in Gillian's head, and rescuing Jimmy's kid so he can lead a semi-normal life.
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Nov. 18, 2012, 9:16 a.m. CST
I'm guessing Harrow's 'unfinished business' involves getting laid with the new mrs.........
by sauronthepowerful
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will be very harrowing to one crazy Italian.
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...is that I can't wait to see how the season ends but, at the same time, I want it to just keep going!
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A person who gave absolutely no shits about a show wouldn't feel the need to post and tell people this.
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Nov. 18, 2012, 12:08 p.m. CST
Tommy gets killed in the cross fire. Harrow goes bananas. Kills everyone. His girl sees. He puts a gun to his head. Fade to black. End of season.
by Mr Soze
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Oh man, no invisible text this week? I always look foward to that as it helps me put pieces together. As for Owen, I have a feeling he was the one who blew up Babettes and is actually working for Gyp or Masseria to betray Nucky.
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He's easily my favorite character on the show.
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Nov. 18, 2012, 2:32 p.m. CST
It's a lot harder for me to give a fuck about Boardwalk...
by AidanJames
with Jimmy dead. That said, I like this story line with Gyp. He's the only guy on the show who tells the truth apart from Harrow. And Harrow REALLY needs to just get back to murdering people.
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Out of everyone in this show he is the one who genuinely feels like a throwback to the roaring twenties.
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awesome.
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fact.
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What the hell, I'm in a good mood. Make it two!
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I also wonder if Margaret survives the season with the latest revelations.
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Nov. 18, 2012, 9 p.m. CST
Gyp is just basically a ridiculous caricature now.......
by sauronthepowerful
It seems like the writers basically are just trying to one up the violence cliche each week.<p> That can only go on for so long and after the Easter episode it's been boring as f$ck.
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Nov. 18, 2012, 9:02 p.m. CST
Oh well.......it was nice to know Owen......though I predicted it was coming based on the softening of his narcissism this season.......but
by sauronthepowerful
His sh&t got f@cked up.
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And a redundantly cliched one as well.
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He's on the show payroll people.
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Nov. 18, 2012, 9:18 p.m. CST
Next week Gyp should just go gypsh&t all over a cute, lovable kitten, because that's about all there is left for him to go after the last three episodes
by sauronthepowerful
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Nov. 18, 2012, 9:34 p.m. CST
F, Marry, Kill.......Margaret, Jimmy's Mom, Harrow's new woman....GO!
by Punisherthunder
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Margaret is too religious to marry and Gillian is too devious and homicidal. Not to mention completely fucked in the head.
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Goddammit. Why did they have to kill Owen? While I like the idea of Harrow being called in by Nucky to singlehandedly fuck up Gyp, Masseria, and their entire organizations, what could possibly persuade Harrow to work for Nucky at this point? Perhaps Gyp is the reason behind what appears to be Harrow's eviction from Gillian's?
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Wow. The first scene was something else as we finally had a tie in with the opening. There's nothing better on the show than when they go all out for the period pieces. Great costuming and design. The stuff with Owen, wow. Absolutely horrifying. Heart breaking. Disjointing the narrative and having the conversation we saw in full later truncated mid way was excellent. Great to see Richard getting a legitimate story line instead of being a slave to the wants and desires of the lesser elements of the audience. It tickles me to no end that every week in these talk backs people clamor for Richard to go on a hunt for Gyp. It's so predictable, glad to see the producers not giving in to this kind of nonsense and making their characters real people. I would love to see Richard removed from any parts of the story involving violence all together once things are resolved with his new girl friends Dad.
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great episode last night...I had a feeling Margaret was going to end up pregnant because the actress is pregnant in real life...all the storylines are clicking on all cylinders...have no idea where everything is headed...love the fact that Lucciano gave Joe Masseria a heads up on Nucky's hit therefore he was able to get the drop on Owen...I've always wanted Harrow to have a bigger story but surprisingly his romance is now the weakest part of the show did everyone see the preview for next week's episode?...Wow, all hell is going to break loose
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....about last nights show. EVERYONE was in the episode. Capone, Chalky, Mickey, Gyp, Owen, Harrow, Rothstein, etc.
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Man, this is going to be good. After watching the episode a second time, Owen's death was done perfectly. Man, if Kelly McDonald doesn't get an award for that performance no one should. What a five star episode. I'm not convinced Gyp won't make it to next season. But at the same time, I'm not sure we won't see soemone else take him out that we don't expect. His right hand guy might be a prime suspect.
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Nov. 19, 2012, 8:29 a.m. CST
Ah yes.......nice to see the resident fine art connoisseur dancing for eternity is back to offer his rather "enlightened" weekly bloviation.....
by sauronthepowerful
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Nov. 19, 2012, 8:30 a.m. CST
except that, as a graduate of film school, he cannot differentiate between the possessive 'their' and the locational 'there'.....as well as.....
by sauronthepowerful
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Nov. 19, 2012, 8:31 a.m. CST
insisting that Boardwalk Empire is replete with character arc(H)s instead of the proper term "Arcs." It does indeed tickle me to no end that.....
by sauronthepowerful
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Nov. 19, 2012, 8:32 a.m. CST
"Mr. Forever" apparently holds a degree and an inordinate amount of self esteem in the study of fine art and film but yet cannot spell or grammatically conjugate basic 2nd grade elements, you know, the things that probably are a prerequisite to getting a
by sauronthepowerful
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Nov. 19, 2012, 8:33 a.m. CST
For, as a "lower member of the audience" it does indeed tickle me to no end that such a 'learned' scholar of high art can't even use the correct terminology when discussing his art AND THEN PROCEEDS TO TANK THE SPELLING OF THE WORD HE WAS TRYING TO SOUND
by sauronthepowerful
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Nov. 19, 2012, 8:35 a.m. CST
The term is "character arcs".....NOT "character arc(H)s" A-N-D the proper spelling of "arc(H)s" is actually "A-R-C-H-E-S".....
by sauronthepowerful
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Nov. 19, 2012, 8:38 a.m. CST
Nice to see though that he is able to find time between 2nd period social studies and 3rd period women's studies to text in his weekly masturabatory dissertation devoid of anything other than self congradulatory indulgance of Margaret's "character arc(H).
by sauronthepowerful
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When she saw the body in the crate, her wailing hysterics took me completely out of the scene. Don't know which is the worse performace, her or Cannavale. And I agree that Richard's storyline has gone from one of the best last season to one of the weakest now. He has zero chemistry with his "love interest". They're just pairing him up with someone...anyone...for the heck of it to give him something to do.
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Harrow basically has been treading water for a few episodes. I do believe that he will have somewhat of a go in the next two episodes in an attempt to save Jimmy's son and start a ready made family with the new Mrs. <p> The episode descriptions state that he has 'unfinished business' in the finale at the Artemis Club. I believe it is to save the son and not to kill Gillian (though that might be a welcome side benefit).<p> MacDonald's acting was completely over the top but I didn't think it was terrible given the circumstances. If the writers are clever (and I do believe they are) I think they will have her self abort so that they bring circular closure to all of her efforts towards feminist education this season and throwback her plight to that of the miscarriage at the beginning that started this whole Quixotic quest.
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Nov. 19, 2012, 8:57 a.m. CST
if you follow real life history then you already know what happens to Joe Masseria, Lucky Lucciano, Capone etc...
by Titus05
so it takes some of the suspense out of the show
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I can't concur with you. I thought her acting in that moment was not only what sold the scene but always was a path of emotion to the viewer. I've watched the episode a few times now, and man it's just gut wrenching. Then the way they out of sequenced the reveal that came shortly there after, masterful. Considering that she just shared the news of her pregnancy with him, man that's heavy stuff. If Nuck kills Margaret now, he may do so without knowing she is pregnant. That's some fucked up shit.
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Nov. 19, 2012, 1:51 p.m. CST
sauronthepowerful3, you realize you come off as a total weirdo
by heylookoverthere
when you make seven posts in a row trying to start a fight on the comments section of AICN... Anyway good episode. I hope Gyp's man whos cousin got shoveled ends up taking out Gyp. Him or Masseria.
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I actually thought the acting was fantastic. I guess you can't please everyone. I felt the emotion myself. I knew it was coming. I knew who was in the box (and I'm glad he wasn't in pieces or something). I'm sad that Owen went out this way though. I was hoping he would go out with a bang.
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Nov. 19, 2012, 2:38 p.m. CST
heylookoverthere.....I'm not picking a fight, im just continuing pne that was picked with me with a few very well supported facts...thats all
by sauronthepowerful
And I thought it was a great episode as well. Everything and everyone seems to be firing on all burners right now.
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also people don't like harrow now? what? honestly last season i thought he was overrated as hell, but i like his storyline this season a lot.
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holy shit. these last two are gonna be so good. also gyp and chalky sharing a scene? i love it
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Nov. 19, 2012, 3:07 p.m. CST
Episode descriptions make it seem like Capone brings the muscle to assists Chalky. Wouldn't it be a phenomenal twist if.....
by sauronthepowerful
He brings Van Alden as side muscle (would involve a switching of Van Alden allegiances within one episode and Shannon, who has had absolutely NO contact with Gyp, ends up being the one who takes him down and in the process becomes the new Boardwalk badass.<p> Just a little 'out of the box' thought of the moment.
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Nov. 19, 2012, 3:07 p.m. CST
So did agent Sawicki sell Owen out to Luciano or something? I'm confused.
by heylookoverthere
It seemed like Luciano told Masseria about the bath house hit as part of their deal, but how did he know? Curious to find out if agent Sawicki is still alive. It is possible that Luciano just warned Masseria that a hit was coming at some future point and to be extra careful. The fact that they didn't let us hear what he whispered to him leaves me wondering.
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I have a strange thought that maybe the death scene was filmed and will be used later, probably explaining a lot more. Much like VanAlden drowning the fellow agent. It could also be pondered, will the preview and history prove true and will Lucky be arrested next week. If so, will it be inferred that Nucky made this move against him by turning him in, or could Joe the King double cross him even after they gave him the information about the hit? How anyone could not like Harrows narrative this season is beyond me. They have attempted to add depth and structure to his character, and people are upset because he isn't doing bad ass stuff. Why not have enough confidence int he writers that they will deliver a pay off to his story that will reward the fans with enough mandatory bad assery? Call me crazy, but I would rather see him doing the scrap book or standing around with ice cream, it's sublime, iconic, and bizarre. His scenes on the beach felt like restrained David Lynch. Beautifully filmed, Americana, and the shattered man at center beneath a mask.
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Nov. 19, 2012, 3:38 p.m. CST
So much shock over owen... no comments about the one guy offing himself! Also the preview says Margaret ends one relationship and contemplates another... owen's dead, so the relationship HAS to be nucky and the new relationship would seem to be the Docto
by HarrysNemesis
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What does she do with the kid? I have wondered if the plot about prenatal care was possibly just a nice link to the real Mary Ill, or something more. If she decides to abort she could use the old school past due milk technique and complete the circle of that scene so many episodes ago quite nicely. The doctor saves her, she wakes up with him nurturing her and it sets up nicely for next season sans Owen Jr.
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Nov. 19, 2012, 4:39 p.m. CST
Jfsithaca.....I think Harrow has been great but I think the writers are pulling back with him on purpose.....
by sauronthepowerful
He is the anti-Gyp.<p> Gyp each week has become an escalating cliche of an uber-violent caricature.<p> Harrow, on the other hand has been restrained when everyone is clambering for him to add to the 63. Harrow's melochaly is exactly what makes him such a great character. He is fleshed out and multifaceted yet there seems so much more that can be done with him.<p> Gyp seems like a dead end by now whose only purpose now is to deliver a fulfilling comeuppance.<p> He is a far, far dry from the torn and multi-dimensional Jimmy but some how manages to provide the 'entertainment' each week.
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Nov. 19, 2012, 5:31 p.m. CST
I just remembered that all of this started because Nucky wished Gyp good luck in Italian.
by heylookoverthere
Almost hilarious.
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Hypocritical asshole.
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Nov. 19, 2012, 5:49 p.m. CST
Harrow's best scenes were with Angela and making his scrapbook
by mypalfish
Nobody is saying he has to be killing someone every episode. His "love story" plot seems very forced, imo, to give him something to do. That scene last season where Angela is sketching him and his takes off his mask was one of the series highlights. He just doesn't have the chemistry with this actress that he did with Aleksa Palladino.
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"Margaret (Kelly Macdonald) decides to end one relationship and considers resuming another" The relationship she "ends" is her unborn child's. The one she "resumes" is Nucky. So, we're stuck with her ass for at least another season. Boo.
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Nov. 19, 2012, 6:32 p.m. CST
LOL at Margaret - I skipped all of her scenes except for the unboxing of her present
by FrodoFraggins
What an annoying twat she is. If I can't get her off the show I can at least laugh at her misery.
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Nov. 19, 2012, 10:04 p.m. CST
Margaret: Sucking the momentum out of every episode. Ugh. We're missing out on expanded screentime for Capone, Chalky & Van Alden for &%#$! MARGARET?
by obijuanmartinez
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Glad she's still on the show. She's very well written. Most TBers only care about the characters who shoot people. Easy pattern to figure out. It's funny you focus all your hate on the female hypocrite, even though she's surrounded by hypocritical men who are murderers.
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Another great episode...fucking outstanding. Just puzzled how people can talk shit on MacDonald's acting or Harrow's storyline. Baffled. Flabergasted.
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Nov. 20, 2012, 1:03 a.m. CST
The difference is that the hypocritical men who are murderers will get their comeuppance...
by TopHat
Margaret will not. Not because she's a woman, but because she's the LEAD female character. Jimmy's wife was no where near as bad as Margaret, but, what happened to her? One of the most heartbreaking, brutal deaths the show has ever had. That will never happen to Margaret. It will, definitely, happen to the male characters - those who are just as hypocritical as Margaret, those who are better people, and those who are a lot worse. This is nothing new; The female lead in these types of shows gets to do the same bad stuff the male lead does (or close to it) yet never receives the same amount of accountability, both literally (given the same physical punishment the male characters endure) or figuratively (given excuses by the audience for her behavior, even though the males receive no such leave for the same actions). Gillian might get a comeuppance that's on par with a male character, but, that's just because she's not as much the lead as Margaret. Owen was just an example of what happens to the men that fall into orbit of these female leads - Very bad things that will never happen to her. So, drink hardy, my friends. For, it is truly a cause of celebration when these fictional spoiled women attain some reference of accountability.
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I don't think the relationship she will resume is with Nucky, that's to obvious. It could be religion or the doctor. Heck maybe the dog. I do think you are on to something that she will end one, with the unborn. The seeds have been laid to use the expired milk, no reason to think she won't. This would be perfect as it would see her killing someone to end this season as Nucky did last season. Albeit an unborn but still.
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the show has a lack of major female characters...Margaret and Gillian are the only 2...so that means she will be force-fed to us every season...next season she investigates Women in Government
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I do believe the relationship Margaret is ending is with the baby. Her hospital arc this entire season has almost been an instruction manual on the subject. I mentioned above after the episode aired that she seems primed to self-abort now that she has no escape from Nucky with an idyllic love in Owen. The milk almost seems too perfect to pass up, I guess justifying the resultant mess, however, would have to be explained away to Nucky.<p> The relationship she is beginning can be twofold. I see her returning to Nucky though that may have to wait until far into next season thereby giving her a long-term writing arc. Margaret has shown a propensity for strength and backbone whereas Nucky has shown repeated subconscious weakness (ie the dreams and foreshadowing and the inability to manage his affairs separately) Margaret has been the backbone that has told him last week to get up, get dressed, and get in that room and do your business, so-to-speak. Just as she advised him earlier on, Margaret has actually engendered Nucky's necessary viciousness at times and to me that is no accident given the ruthless, calculating aspects of her own life that she has carefully hidden.<p> The other possibility, and I admit that this is a left-field scenario, is that she severs her past ties to Owen through the abortion and to Nucky by running off to join the seminary as a nun or lay person. Given her propensity to religion as her moral compass it would represent a severing of all ties to start anew as she intended with Owen. This would be a startling 180 but it would represent her ascent to wealth and position and then her decline and return to her heart's interest away from the corruption and burdens that Nucky's lifestyle has brought. I'm not sold on this completely (obviously the children would present a major obstacle to this scenario) but it WOULD represent a major character shocker that shows are often tempted to take advantage of purely for shock value.<p> A third option is that the death of Owen has caused her window of figurative and literal escape to pass and now she becomes resigned to the fact that she is bound to Nucky. She was so close, yet so far as is often the literary case where the character's path to righteousness and peace is within reach but then circumstance brings reality crashing down upon their hopes. In this scenario I believe Margaret goes back to Nucky, resigned to his flaws and the flaws of their situation but determined to take advantage of every single opportuinty that Nucky's wealth and prestige can offer her to make her a force for progressive social change (hence the aviator storyline and Margaret's fascination with it)
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Knocking off Owen was inspired. I agree with someone above however, reading the real history of Capone, Masseria, Luciano, Rothstein, Lansky and Seigel does take a bit away from the program but still damn good.
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Nov. 20, 2012, 9:55 a.m. CST
Going forward, would like to see more of Graham, Williams, Wigham, Shannon and Stuhlbarg and far less of
by sauronthepowerful
Yusef, Mol and even Buscemi.<p> Mol's storyline seems to have pretty much run its course and it appears that Gyp's claiming of The Artemis Club is just another way to prolong her existence on the show. Yusef is particularly unenjoyable to me as Lansky. Either the writing or the actor are just droll and miserable to listen to, one of the few downers on an otherwise excellent ensemble piece.<p> Doyle's basically being written off to Mellon's distillery. People were complaining about Buscemi's reduced time last year due to Jimmy's ascent so I think the writers compensated for that this year a little too much. Some of the redundancies in a few of the episodes could' been pared to allow more screen time for others. The same also applies to Margaret but Margaret's storyline has a lot of room for growth so I can see the necessity of quantity there.<p> With Owen and Doyle off of the show, coupled with Gyp's very possible exit, I think the writers should give more time to the Chicago storyline and expand upon Eli's and Chalky's relationship with Nucky as being the logical replacements for Owen. Eli especially has a chance to grow as the brothers close ranks to preserve and survive.
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hes like kyles cousin on south park. he will always be back.
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They're already doing 5 locations in Atlantic City, Chicago, DC, Tabor Heights and NYC. Tabor Heights will probably be off the table soon but I hope they don't open up another avenue to Pennsylvania. I think Mickey's already rather small screen allotment is about to get quite a bit smaller.
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Nov. 20, 2012, 2:51 p.m. CST
The perfect season ending scene to me would be.....
by sauronthepowerful
Joe Masseria opens his door in NYC and finds a package delivered late at night. Inside is Gyps disgustingly and barely recognizeable, mutilated corpse, far worse than Owen as a sort of one-ups-man ship by Nucky and Rothstein.<p> Masseria heaves a sigh, puts the lid back on the package and goes back to bed uncaring as if Gyp was nothing but a small and increasingly unreliable cog in his machine. After warning Gyp that business needs time and Gyp not understanding the deeper connotations of this, Masseria basically just dismisses Gyps life's loyalty as an inconvenience and goes about his life putting the matter to bed. <p> Fade to Black.
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Nov. 20, 2012, 2:53 p.m. CST
With a typical, lighthearted flapper composition as an ironic cadence to the uberviolent escalations of this season.
by sauronthepowerful
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Nov. 20, 2012, 3 p.m. CST
It would also be perfect if Eli was the one to end Gyps existance on this earth. Wigham has kind of been relegated to the background, but.....
by sauronthepowerful
It might be nice to see Nucky cornered against Gyp in hiding at Chalkys and Eli surprises them both releasing his inner rage that has been simmering all over Rosetti. <p> This would go a LONG way towards rebuilding the chasm that exists between their dynamic going into next season as it would make Nucky indebted to Eli, a position he'd probably rather not be in.<p> But again.....this is all end of season conjecture.
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well i more meant mickey will eventually come back to atlantic city. i feel like hes just setting up the distillery not running it himself. or if he is, hell find some excuse to come back. and it'll be like in south park, he'll just show up at nuckys door and be like I'm Back!!!! i wouldnt be suprised if we don't see him till next season though. unless they end the season with a montage then they could throw in a few shots of him working at the distillery
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Things aren't fair. That said, Margaret hardly deserves to die. She hasn't murdered anyone. In fact, she's done far more good than bad with Nucky's money. I know that pisses people off here, but it's an undeniable fact.
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I don't get it. What bad things are we talking about here? Nucky's also in a loveless marriage and was sleeping with someone else. Nucky was screwing around with Billie first, so Margaret gets a little Owen on the side. (Yes, they slept together one other time before.) But what has she done that reaches the level of what Nucky's done. Now, I will acknowledge that in a number of movies and TV shows that women characters tend to be excused for cheating on husbands because of a bad marriage or she deserves it or something, cheating men are scumbags. But I don't see this here, really.
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I do so hate it when TV goes there. It seems like such a cliched soap opera thing to do.
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It also becomes fairly obvious why some TBers can't deal with a story about a woman when their subject headers are 'fuck, marry & kill' lists of the women.
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finished season 3, I thought it was great. To me this was the first really great season I'd rank it waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of seasons 1 and 2
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Agreed with the above, more Graham, Shannon, and the Chicago storyline. Heck split it off into it's own series, HBO! Graham just kills it as Capone... best screen portrayal ever (sorry De Niro and Steiger). But I'm wondering if with Luciano taking the Mafia more into drugs than bootlegging, and possibly Rothstein's death occuring as early as next season, if the series might move away from NY anyway and towards Chicago.
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He seemed to know about the bombing of Babettes before it happened, moved to a safe distance.
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