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A New Trailer For OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL!
Nordling here.
I'm fairly spoiler free on this one, so I don't know who the Wicked Witch turns out to be (Mila Kunis? Michelle Williams? Rachel Weisz?) but I'm sure all will be revealed come March. This movie looks beautiful and very reminiscent of the original WIZARD OF OZ (really dig that Technicolor fire). Can Sam Raimi evoke that classic movie? Can James Franco pull it off? Again, we'll know this March. There's some beautiful imagery here, for certain:
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Sorry guys. This looks awful and a carbon copy of Alice in Wonderland. Hope I'm wrong but I doubt it. There's a reason it's dumping in March.
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What's the deal here? Are they allowed to use stuff from the film, or just the book(s)?
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Probably pretty stupid.
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Imagine if they were able to make movies like this with genuine scripts and character actors, instead of pretty people and bullshit. Wouldn't that be something?
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. . . so, what's this?
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what's up with those flying 3D texts? they didn't fit into the Hobbit trailer and they don't fit here. apart from that, the trailer looks pretty but too full of action; the story seems rather gimmicky but let's see how it works out.
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Nov. 14, 2012, 8:22 a.m. CST
If they wanted to make a prequel, why not one focusing mainly on the crabby talking apple trees?
by theDORK
Show them being planted, and then growing to full bloom over 2 hours.
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Nov. 14, 2012, 8:23 a.m. CST
Or, have Sylvester, Professor Marvel's horse, be the star. Show him as a young colt, overcoming obstacles.
by theDORK
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In the original The Wizard of Oz, people run around in Halloween costumes and cardboard sets and it all works like magic thanks to the warmth of the script and directorial approach. This new thing looks as cold as the mainframes it was made on.
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Disney has been in the habit of a formula with their movies, somewhat bland non threatening. Tron Legacy, John Carter and Alice and wonderland all seem to cut from the same cloth. This looks like the same coat but another color. And that what really worries me about the New Star Wars. Will they follow that play it safe formula. That is not working by the way!! Disney movies are looking like CBS Crime dramas now different but the same. That is what im very worried about with episodes 7 - 9. I DONT want to watch it thinking im watching a Disney movie
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Nov. 14, 2012, 8:29 a.m. CST
No heart in the trailer? Clearly no one actually WATCHED the thing!
by Matthew Schlotman
I love how CGI is shown at all now and everyone is, 'OH HOLY FUCK!!! CGI!!!!"
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.... becomes what we know to be the Wicked Witch of the West. Rachel Weisz is the sister in the East, so maybe the grand finale of this film ends with a house landing on her?
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that means you're excited? mainframes run pretty hot.
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Nov. 14, 2012, 8:36 a.m. CST
In the rush of these 39-year old basement dwellers to pass judgement...
by PhineasFlynn
...it's clear that few people actually watched the trailer. As Nordling said (good God, I'm about to agree with that mouth-breather), there's some interesting imagery there. Kinda dug the silhouette of the witch in the flames at the end. All in all, it looks like something I can can take my kids to see and enjoy as well for what it is. Isn't that what Disney films are for?
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So there's that.
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Nov. 14, 2012, 8:42 a.m. CST
Michael Bays Oz! - explosions! bad CG! stoned Franco as Neo Wizard! Kunis/Williams/Weisz showing off to their kids and getting paid handsomely! = Alice in WL 3D billion $ box office!
by CARTMANEZ
YAY!
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he is not lead Actor material...the rest of the cast also looks fairly low budget...guess they are banking on the pretty CGI to carry this movie...the transition from black and white to color in that trailer was pretty cool
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my childhood more please
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kids are going to be like 'wha!? they filmed parts 2 and 3 already?! - Daddy why didnt you tell me!!?'
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I'm glad modern technology is delving into one of the more visually appealing and mythologically ripe cinematic universes. Seriously screw all the anti-cgi people, there comes a point where if seeing anything made by a computer on a trailer immediately turns you off, then you are just hating in order to seem cool. The film looks visually dazzling, the story seems intriguing and hopefully it will bring a new generation audience to the original film.
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It's not based on any one book in the series, so there isn't really any "rape my childhood" scenarios going on. Though we finally get to see the other characters he wrote about done in live action
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Nov. 14, 2012, 8:48 a.m. CST
the prophecy must be fulfilled...basically James Franco..you are Keanu Reeves..
by CARTMANEZ
awwwwww they have a Keanu Reeves now!
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Nov. 14, 2012, 8:50 a.m. CST
shouldnt it read - "From the Director of the Spider-Man trilogy (except the 3rd one no one likes to talk about despite banking 1 billion)"
by CARTMANEZ
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I'm not really sure what that means metaphorically. I certainly don't mean it literally. Never mind, I need to think this through some more before I post it.
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Nov. 14, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST
The only thing that bugged me was the "Guys, take five." bit.
by alan_poon
Did people talk like that in the early 20th century?
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Nov. 14, 2012, 8:58 a.m. CST
the money shot at the end of the witch emerging from the flames sounds like a transformer!
by CARTMANEZ
hah! Transformer witch
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Apparently firemen used it back in that age when they would have to pick five other guys to help them out when the work got too hard or something, swear to God.
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Nov. 14, 2012, 9 a.m. CST
getting tried of all the signposted foreshadowing in prequels
by CARTMANEZ
oooh look theres him getting his hat!...oooh look she becomes the witch...oooh look Kyle Reese learns about his shot gun...oooh look Obi Wan is meeting Anakin (expect hes 5 years old) blah blah at least Prometheus didnt do much of that
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I can only go by the trailer, but it has NONE of the visual splendor of the original film (even with the layers and layers and LAYERS of CG). And the introduction of Tim Burton-esque fantasy creatures are completely at odds with the more natural riffs on monkeys, lions, and bats from the original film. The original took the real world and put a fantasy spin on it, while this new Oz appears all fantasy with no reality whatsoever. SIDE RANT: Just for the record, I absolutely loathe James Franco. The guy just screams sleazebag, and i can't bring myself to watch him at all. (Kind of sad, because I hear good things about Rise of the Planet of the Apes.)
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smh.
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Nov. 14, 2012, 9:12 a.m. CST
CGI crap flung in your face every five minutes. Yep, that's Sam Raimi for ya. Subtle as a jackhammer.
by Wacky Packages
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Nov. 14, 2012, 9:14 a.m. CST
Oz is great material...in the right hands. In the hands of Raimi we've likely got another Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
by Wacky Packages
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. . . Bitter man-children should consider themselves lucky there parents weren't such nit-picky dorks. Disney's stuff has always been like this and you just can't see that. I'll be Redboxing it. And 90% of you that already hate it will still see it in theaters opening weekend.
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you're all a bunch of nerds who think they know about film. this looks like a fun movie. go back to suckin' on your mom's tit.
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Nov. 14, 2012, 9:23 a.m. CST
I highly recommend anyone with kids buy the Oz books for them as Christmas presents. Some of the best children's writing (that's also aimed at adults) of our time
by kidicarus
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That being said, Looks great!! Will be there in Opening Day!
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Nov. 14, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST
Just give me that automatic shit button. It only costs 200 mil for one of those
by UltraTron
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"Oz" is a nickname but I am not sure where this fits in the mythology and it makes me curious why "this" was made and not the hit musical "Wicked". Am still mighty curious, as it seems to take bits and pieces from the original movies, Wicked and the books...
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Nov. 14, 2012, 9:48 a.m. CST
Hey anybody else notice the world has never been trying to end faster than every day you wake up?
by UltraTron
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Probably because Disney already had the rights to this.
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. . . Franco (Wahlberg & Reese Witherspoon also come to mind) seems only as talented as his director. Can look brilliant, but also a total dope.
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Nov. 14, 2012, 9:52 a.m. CST
I said it before, and I'll say it again: getting really tired of all these 'chosen one' storylines.
by Kamaji
One can't just travel to a magical land these days...you have to be 'the one,' the all-powerful who will unite and break free the curse/spell/evil plum/etc.
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Thanks. From what I understand the Oz books are in the public domain and a huge untapped "franchise" although some of the aspects of the movie are not in the books (like the ruby slippers, the green tinted emerald city, etc).. Still, I would have liked to see Wicked as I feel it is much more interesting and creative than what this movie seems. Could be wrong though.
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When is John Waters going to do a movie that is heavily saturated with CGI like OZ the Great and Powerful? www.nonipplesonthesuit.com
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Nov. 14, 2012, 10:12 a.m. CST
Does Caesar have a cameo as a flying monkey? And will monkeys fly out of James Franco's ass and into Mila Kunis' mouth?
by 77AD
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Starting with the nice black and white; Tim Burton-esque look... then to a cotton candy wonderland, that looks great in some ways, but horrible in others. I'm wondering if there is going to be any oomph to this; a reason to get invested besides drooling at the chicas.
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Nov. 14, 2012, 10:25 a.m. CST
Hi I'm Gay Pertington Terry the screenwriter of Toxic Avenger 2 and I don't mind you calling me Gay.
by UltraTron
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DOR-theeeee just click yer shoooes three tiiimmmes and zazzum flop! Jell-OOOO Puddin'!
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Nov. 14, 2012, 10:29 a.m. CST
Is this based on the HBO Prison show, cause its raping my childhood..
by tickled_by_elmo
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Even worse, the film as a whole looks like it is intended for an international audience. The dialogue is overly simple and the use of 3D too ham-fisted.
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I love this trailer I live this trailer My Witch's name is Kass, she lives in Italy My spring equinox just got a lot more interesting ...
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Nov. 14, 2012, 11:02 a.m. CST
I think Selma Blair's giant hooters in A Dirty Shame is as special effect-ty as Waters gets.
by openthepodbaydoorshal
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This looks pretty good, some dodgy looking CGI at the outset, and the Wizard was kind of a dottering fool for whatever reason in the original, but this looks like a clever update/prequel to the original, for kids of a certain age, and nostalgic fans of the classic film. That was what I was going to say. What I really will say is that just skimming through comments here is like dipping one's hand into a river of raw sewage that 13 year old boys are dumping their doo doo and pee pee in, up the block. Another loss for any belief in humanity's hope.
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For those asking why not just do Wicked: Wicked isn't in the public domain. Baum's Oz characters are much cheaper than Maguire's. Much, much cheaper. And despite the despair evident here, by and large the audience for this (children) is much less likely to be disappointed than the audience for Wicked. Ecologically-minded, feminist, social-justice proponents are a more discriminating (and smaller) audience. Producing the musical, rather than the book, means keeping the Broadway musical audience enthralled as well. It's a money thing. Disney needs to be able to make back their investment.
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Nov. 14, 2012, 11:26 a.m. CST
Without having seen the trailer (cause my work comp is gay) I can't say this looks horrible.
by kindofabigdeal
From the posters I've seen this looks to be interesting. I love me some Mila and Rachel is a cutey. Not really a Williams fan but I can be convinced otherwise. I say give it a chance. It's not like Franco is gonna part his hair and do some gay jazz dance number.
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Nov. 14, 2012, 11:26 a.m. CST
Yippee I cannot wait for this one as it looks completely and utterly shit. Dog shit on toast. Lovely.
by Bradly Durant
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here I was prepared to cast aspersions because of Franco and what do I find?...the acting here sucks Franco can't look any dumber.
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Now THAT was reminiscent of the classic, irreplaceable MGM film. You could see Margaret Hamilton's silhouette in the flames. Cool. I dunno. This trailer was actually kind of interesting...but you know what? I remember seeing a friend's DVD of the original Oz movie, and in the extras, some showbiz chick was talking about the special effects in that film, how well they hold up, and how modern special effects techs would handle the cyclone/Oz scenes. And she said something very telling about modern special effect artists: "I can guarantee they'd overdo it." And that's what this trailer looks like. Overdone. Especially the winged monkeys. They're flying around so fast that, even when one's coming right at you, you can barely tell what it is. I dunno. Might see this...might not.
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What's the eye of Sauron doing in there? That first shot of him landed in Oz by the bank. The scale of everything is off. This was a big issue with me on Alice. I hated that movie by the way. I have a feeling I'm going to have issues with it, but I will go see it.
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Jizz jizz jizz!! Ohhhh Argo you're the best.
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Like it will about half as good as "Return to Oz". Which was a steaming pile of horseshit. That is all.
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Nov. 14, 2012, 12:01 p.m. CST
reminiscent of the original WIZARD OF OZ (really dig that Technicolor fire).
by berserkrl
The 1939 movie was not the "original." When it came out there were already over 30 Oz books, a stage play, and seven Oz movies.
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Nov. 14, 2012, 12:08 p.m. CST
Is it just me or does that look more interesting then all 3 Spider-Man movies combined?
by James Robinson
... just sayin
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Would you also bitch because the next fucking Pixar movie had "too much CGI"? Who gives a flying fuck if a movie has lot's of CGI, as long as it is well done technically and creativty. That is the case hear, and I love how Raimi has recreated the overheated colors of vintage technical from the 1939 original. The only complaint I have with this is I think Franco--who is a good actor--is miscast.
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Looks okay to me... Alice in Wonderland wasn't a disappointment because of the overuse of CGI-- it was a disappointment because it simply wasn't a particularly good movie. Some of the imagery in this looks fresh and colorful and I'm withholding my reserved HATE until given a better reason to unload.
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Obviously it's a nod to the 1938 film, so why do black and white and not sepia? It looks lazy, like they couldn't bother to do it right. That said, this trailer looks so much better than the first. There are moments that really feel like Wizard of Oz in this trailer. But then it gets ruined by overdone CGI Alice in Wonderland borrowed scenery. I don't get why filmmakers keep doing this. There is nothing beautiful or interesting about seeing the camera pan across what looks like a cartoon. In fact, it damn near prevents the viewer from connecting with the film. You're too lazy to build a set and use the cgi sparingly to fill in the blanks, and I'm supposed to be impressed. The three female witches all look gorgeous and excellent. James Franco seems exactly like James Franco and nothing like the Wizard. Kind of wish Downey Jr never dropped out. I like Franco but this just isnt his kind of role.
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Level the playing field motherfuckers!
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Meh= Tim Burton Bleh= Terry Gilliam
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Nov. 14, 2012, 12:44 p.m. CST
You can tell that James Franco is 'Great and Powerful' because he's wearing a hat.
by AzulTool
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First trailer did nothing for me, this one has me a bit more interested. Though I can't wait until filmmakers figure out that audiences are over the sweeping CGI landscape shots, it might have been impressive when it wasn't overdone, but at this point there's nothing neat about looking at an expensive fake computer image. Just save the money and spend it on effects that will matter.
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First trailer made me want to see it, this one makes lets me know it's just more Hollywood effects pap.
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Jury's out on this for me. I hate to jump on the "too much cgi" bandwagon. But, that was a shit ton of green screen. Granted, tech has its place, but all of the characters in the original were created using practical effects and the actors brought them to life. That's what gave it so much charm and personality. It's unfortunate that it seems as though Sam didn't take any of that into account. Guess we'll see...
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Fuck this steaming pile of horseshit. Anyone who looks at this obvious cash grab in an economic downturn and thinks it might be fun needs to lay off the fucking prozac or adderall or whatever the fuck you're taking which numbs your mind from the bullshit around you called life. You cannot capture the magic of the original, of anything. Disney is struggling to capture what made it so special they keep missing the target. Disney now has to buy up all popular properties in order to stay afloat and relevent. I wouldn't be surprised if they own Looney Tunes in ten years. What made Disney so special was that it was one mans vision, sure there were department heads but it was the one man the dreamer the visionary who was in charge. He was driven by money as everyone but he delivered a fine quality product. Now it's run by suits, a collective mind who take Disneys ideals of American life way too far. Disney could be considered the ruplican party of animation with all the rightwing ideals implanted in their characters or dare I say whitewashed. The only thing they did right in the last decade was Pirates of the Carribean which was a great film that did not need any of it's awful sequels. As for Burton's Alice catastrophy...well that was heartbreaking cause who better to make a dark live action Alice then ol' Timmy. That movie sucked the biggest donkeydicks I've ever seen, but you know what idiot children ate it up and it made a ton of money. So now they got Wizard of Oz and a guaranteed paycheck for a director as quirky as Tim Burton who could be in a slump during this economic downturn. Hey why not work for The Mouse, it 'll be easy, they'll go in through your nose and you get to keep the piece they take out. So are there any high hopes for this sequel prequel fuck my life. FUCK NO!! It's shit. Even if you go to the theatre and think you like it you are wrong. This may make money and I may be wrong about it being bad. But it will still piss me off because the trailer should say From the director of The Evil Dead Trilogy. I still have love for Raimi and Spiderman and Disney but like a problem child I have no hopes for them. When the cat is away the mice will play and Mickey is having a fucking ball. I think someone needs to set some rat-traps. I'm gonna take five gentlemen.
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Sending a child to kill a monster (when he knows he can give her what she wants if she returns, hoping she'll die on the way.) I wonder if they will keep the utter lack of morals, or he'll devolve by the movie (or they'll forget about it completely.)
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What a load of ass that was
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Or, whatever the hell they are calling it. Absolutely!
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James Franco is the most mediocre actor out there. He can be very, very bland. (except in Pineapples express. Hilarious!) But yea, sometimes its hard to watch him, because there is very little difference between the characters he plays. He needs to learn to come up with unique character traits, work on his voice changing, pitch, tone. This would have been a great movie to go all out on and work with different voices, but of course he botched that chance
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...the origin of Top-Hat Man! Thrill as he manages to keep his top hat on throughout the entire movie, whereas Spider-Man took his mask off every five minutes to wipe his tear-filled eyes or to blow his snot-filled nose! Don't worry if you miss the amazing origin of Top-Hat Man, because we'll reboot the living fuck out of this series in about eight or nine years' time anyway when the director of **a** Spider-Man trilogy fucks up the final chapter in his Top-Hat Man trilogy after being forced to include the Dorothy-hating Toto symbiote in the story!
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Just an idea here, "Sending a child to kill a monster (when he knows he can give her what she wants if she returns, hoping she'll die on the way.) I wonder if they will keep the utter lack of morals, or he'll devolve by the movie (or they'll forget about it completely.)" Now I don't know the mythology of the books, but we see the gold he is promised for killing the wicked witch, he fails I do believe. So many years later as an old man here arrives Dorothy whom he sends on a quest to kill the witch for him and thus collect his treasure...
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Nov. 14, 2012, 2:59 p.m. CST
Don't get in the last car in the great movie ride or you'll miss the witch
by UltraTron
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It doesn't do anything for me. Not even that nice to look at in my personal opinion.
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But carry on with the unthinking cynical hatefest.
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I'll be watching it.
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REAL -color- in a movie. And don't just say it's ALICE IN WONDERLAND. That movie, like -everything- that's come out for about a decade now, has been -deathly- afraid of going for real color (hell, even AVATAR muted its 'hot spectrum' colors into brown). This has RED reds. GREEN greens. BLUE blues. it's gorgeous. Technicolor=the ONLY color.
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Um, enjoy them.
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I like all of the main actors in this, but we never really see the other witches interact with one another in the trailer. This concerns me. If this is indicative of the movie, then it may turn out cut up to focus on the main character and without any real character work for the other parts like in Tinker Tailor Solider Spy, where due to time/format we got all of Gary Oldman's performance but husks of the remainder of the cast. Cieran Hinds, Toby Jones, and Colin Firth are not wallpaper. In the same way, Michelle Williams, Mila Kunis and Rachel Weisz are not wallpaper actors. I hope they are not treated this way in this movie. The horribly made extended cameo of the Mad Hatter in Alice in Wonderland is another example. (That entire movie was super shitty of course, but it has a relevant example). I also echo the worry from way above about how this feels safe formula-wise.
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You are waaaaaay too concerned about how shitty a shitty movie might turn out to be.
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Sam ace me Evil Dead and Bruce Campbell. The man gets a free pass for life by me.
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oh my.
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I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL, I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!
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Nov. 14, 2012, 8:58 p.m. CST
Looks like Alice in fucking Wonderland. Does anyone know why that abomination of a movie made over 1bn??? couldn't watch it for more than 10 minutes!!!
by manuehl
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Nov. 14, 2012, 8:59 p.m. CST
Did someone say there's a prophecy? Oh for fuck's sake COUNT ME OUT
by Autodidact
I will have to watch it on blu-ray when my gf rents it.
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Not interested.
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She seems like she knows how to have a good time... lmao.
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Baum's Oz books created and covered a VAST amount of time and space (as in lands and such). I don't see any issue with other creative types taking INSPIRATION from those stories, rather than directly adapting them. So long as the movie ends up telling a good story, at least. Visually, it look very interesting to me. The look fits an Oz story much better than it did Alice In Wonderland.
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Nov. 14, 2012, 10:06 p.m. CST
Yeah, and like, since when did the geek world not have faith and respect for Sam Raimi?
by Jaka
Oh how the times have changed. Makes it real clear that there's been some major turnover in the AICN talkbacks.
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I hate CGI as much as anyone....but this looks like it could be fun. Hard to tell, but comparing to Burton's Alice is also unfair...Burton was always an over-rated hack. Raimi has far more good movies under his belt.
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made this so it fits with Dark Side of the Moon !
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Everything else - yawn
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Stephen Daldry's movie of the Broadway megahit may have just become needless after this. if it is as good as it looks, it will render the movie of WICKED pointless. just as ALL THAT JAZZ stole the thunder of A CHORUS LINE when it finally became a movie, so this might dampen the advent of a movie WICKED.
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Um, you did see the original Wizard of Oz, no? Dorothy was just as much a "chosen one" as Franco's wizard is portrayed here. And, gotta tell you folks, the messianic/chosen theme? Not really a new phenomenon. I think a couple of you need to read some Joseph Campbell. The movie looks fun, it's not raping anyone's childhood and it'll probably bank enough even in March to launch a new Oz franchise. And you know what? That's not really a sign of impending filmpocalypse.
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Nov. 15, 2012, 10:25 a.m. CST
FRANCO IS A CUNT AND HE ENSURES THAT I'LL WAIT TO SEE THIS ON BLU-RAY!!!FACT!!! ROBERT DOWNEY JR. WOULD HAVE BEEN FUCKING PERFECT FOR THIS ROLE!!! SHAME HE DROPPED OUT!!!FACT!!!
by CreepyThinManForever
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I know it shouldn't and its cool and kind of different for a 2012 movie...but it amkes it looks so god damny sugary. Candyland, Speed Racer, alice in wonderland nonsense.
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Nov. 15, 2012, 10:26 a.m. CST
kstewandthecuntsman, INDEED, WILLIAM'S ACTUAL LOOKS FUCKABLE WITH THOSE NICE FLOWING GOLDEN LOCKS!!! TO BAD SHE GOES FOR A DYKE CUT MOST OF THE TIME IN REAL LIFE!!!FACT!!!
by CreepyThinManForever
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Nov. 15, 2012, 10:35 a.m. CST
OH AND I LIKED THE 1:33:1 BLACK AND WHITE SHOTS BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE CLASSIC TWILIGHT ZONE!!!FACT!!!
by CreepyThinManForever
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Wouldn't see it anyway, because it's OZ. But you've gotta gripe about something anyway.
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lol - I'm sure you have. The over-saturated, bright colors would seem to be keeping in line with the original look of the land of Oz, particularly when contrasted against the darker b&w.
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That choice makes me hopeful. The choice of Actors - not so much.
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