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Here's Neil Finn's "Song Of The Lonely Mountain" From THE HOBBIT: AN UNEXPECTED JOURNEY!
Nordling here.
I dig it. It reminds me of the Rankin-Bass cartoon (sue me, but I dig those songs), and there's nothing wrong with that. I'm really excited to hear more of Tolkien's beautiful poetry and songs in THE HOBBIT: AN UNEXPECTED JOURNEY - I realize that they really wouldn't have fit in THE LORD OF THE RINGS, but I love that we get the Dwarfs' song in the first trailer. This sounds pretty fun and epic. Thanks to Rolling Stone:
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The entire Hobbit in three movies - what next, The Goodnight Moon Trilogy?
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I feel it will complement the film and Howard Shore's score well.
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I don't want to hear it until maybe the credits though.
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THAT LOGIC DOES NOT COMPUTE.
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Like Nordling says, just enough of the Rankin-Bass version, just a little easier on the cheese. Beyond awesome! Is this Oscar-worthy songwriting?
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But making them each almost 3 hours is NOT. There's not nearly enough source material to go around for those kinds of lengths, even with the appendices of the LOTR. I am concerned that the filler stuff is going to be really dopey and cringe-worthy, because that's generally how PJ's stuff was when he changed things in the original trilogy (Army of the Dead, I'm looking at you....)
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yep.
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Also, there isn't enough singing in TLOTR. Those books are filled with songs. I definitely would've had some Tom Bombadil action if I had made those movies.
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Nov. 12, 2012, 5:02 p.m. CST
If it`s the end credits weird pop song then it`s absolutely terrible.
by higgledyhiggles
Convince yourself all you want. After all you`re a fan. But it`s still horse shit. Can`t believe anyone thought it was good enough or even good. Someone on the production is a fan and couldn`t bear to tell them it wasn`t any good. Now go back to listening to it 10 times on the trot to make yourself enjoy it.
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Nov. 12, 2012, 5:04 p.m. CST
Wouldn't it be funny if they got David Arkenstone to do an end credits tune?
by thethedew
>ducks<
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Nov. 12, 2012, 5:08 p.m. CST
I'm sorry, I just can't sit through this for 3 hours. 3 times. 9 hours of my life gone.
by Cotton_Mcknight
Life is too precious. And keep PJ away from Star Wars. We don't need a 3 hour star wars movie. Oh and if you are expecting a "PJ is racist" comment from me, you won't get it. However, I did catch a little of King Kong on tv this weekend, and I found it funny that the only black guy in the whole movie get's thrown against a mountain by Kong.
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I'm still just not excited about this movie. I think the LOTR trilogy make me think this is going to be another snoozefest with overly dramatic glances at the screen and going on for way too long. I might have been more excited if it was one movie but now that I know it is 3...just lost me. Just make a 3 hr movie and be done with it. I really just don't want another trilogy like LOTR which although looked great and were well cast were just as boring as a glacier and I felt like I wanted to fast forward. They were like a TV show that you are forced to watch the more boring episodes of to get to the good parts. Sometimes that means proper build up, sometimes that means just self-gratifying time killing. I don't even know how many times a face turns at the camera to dramatic music in the LOTR movies but it is entirely too many times.
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Nov. 12, 2012, 5:23 p.m. CST
Sung by the dwarves in the trailer.. that song gives me chills..
by SlickyVonBoner
And it's probably been since the 80's since a song from a movie affected me like that.. Hmm. maybe the Braveheart theme...
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I grew up with that cartoon in the 70's and this song really brings back memories. I'm SURE that's what they were going for. Hard to believe I'm finally going to see THE HOBBIT on the big screen. Hell, even harder to believe its been 11 years since FOTR.
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http://www.vulture.com/2012/10/why-the-hobbit-needs-nearly-three-hours.html?mid=imdb
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They'd put an axe in this guy's head for turning their chant into a limp celtic new age neo-folk song.
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Sounds like it fits, and regardless, I like it a lot... but then again, anything sung/composed by Neil Finn warrants my attention. The man's a genius when it comes to songwriting, and his voice is still one of my favourites - it sounds as good as it ever did here.
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Sounds like something he and Tim would have recorded under the Finn Brothers banner. I agree with krinkle... Neil is one of the most amazing songwriters alive and doesn't get the recognition he deserves. Glad I caught his solo show at the El Rey in 2011. Awesome.
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Nov. 12, 2012, 6:05 p.m. CST
I've been trying to figure out what the climaxes of these movies will be...
by CountryBoy
Especially the first one. Will we even see Smaug this time around? And will his attack on Laketown be the climax of the second movie? Or will that AND the Battle of Five Armies be in the third one?? I never read the Appendices; maybe there's some epic stuff in there, I don't know. But I can't picture how this is going to work...
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Nov. 12, 2012, 6:06 p.m. CST
rev_skarekroe Agreed. This is like the AI pop version of For Always.
by bundle
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The army of the dead wasn't filler stuff, they were in the books.
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And two would've been such a nice bittersweet number, so we could say goodbye next year. Not the year after next year. Now it just feels like another one of those never ending franchises. Through the years, I wanted to shoot myself every time I had to sit through another blasted Harry Potter or Twilight trailer.
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Im no oracle so I cant see into the future. Maybe these three Hobbit movies will suck but where we are now I just cant understand all this negativity. Peter Jackson is an massive film geek and this is obvious a project very dear to him. Through the entire process he has been trying to do the world of JRR Tolkien justice. Yes, the book is a short - and childish - novel that doesn't justify 3 movies but as EVERYONE involved in the project has told numerous times the movies goes BEYOND the book. OK? It's really not that hard to grasp. Is it also an obvious cashgrab from WB? Maybe, but if the movies are good then who cares... But all we get is whining, whining, whining on these internetforums/boards. Pathetic loners desperately trying to sound funny, cool and/or jaded. Re: this song I can only say I agree with the author of the article. It does evoke Rankin/Bass but without the extra layer of cheese (still a little bit of cheesy though... )and I like it.
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Nov. 12, 2012, 6:26 p.m. CST
Great song...loved it...I still think that 3 movies for THE HOBBIT is really stretching it....but I think that Jackson can pull it off if anybody can
by DementedCaver
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hahaha fucking hell. get over it already.
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There were heaps of black people in King Kong...all the locals of Skull Island! And on this, Neil Finn is brilliant.
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Why aren't Zepplin songs like Battle of Evermore being played instead of instrumental pieces? www.nonipplesonthesuit.com
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Nov. 12, 2012, 6:32 p.m. CST
"Rankin-Bass Didn't Need 9 Hours" -- Hell, Tolkien didn't need 9 hours
by Joey Stars
I can breeze through the Hobbit in the course of an afternoon
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Nov. 12, 2012, 6:54 p.m. CST
This sounds crazy but I get a little First Blood end credits song vibe from it
by lv_426
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDIRGCzu8dY I'm trying to imagine Martin Freeman as John Rambo and Ian McKellan as Colonel Trautman.
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Trolls gotta troll, it's the same song and dance as the first time around. Now where's Ringbearer9 at?
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Nov. 12, 2012, 7:08 p.m. CST
Everything about this production is a marketing decision
by brobdingnag
These films will make their money back but 10 years from now no one will be talking about them like LOTR.
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My fav singer-songwriter ever. So glad he's a part of this project.
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I loved their take on The Hobbit. Those are the songs I hum in my head when I read the book.
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But I'm also a huge Neil Finn fan, so I reserve the right to be biased.
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.....REALLY want some attention.
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I mean, really geeky in a good way. If you love Tolkien and you see yourself as kind of a Viking/Celt/Highlander like I sure as hell do, how can you not love this? And lv_426, good call on the First Blood vibe.
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Nov. 12, 2012, 9:03 p.m. CST
9 hours is too long, but for some people 121 episodes (hours) of Lost was not enough.
by Ingeld
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just saying
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after the female-vocalist-dominated LOTR. I like it. In Peter we Trust...
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Nov. 12, 2012, 10 p.m. CST
I think LOTR are boring films and I have no urge to see them again
by MJDeViant
I understand a lot of people like them. So what. That shouldn't change MY opinion. I like Peter Jackson up to and including The Frighteners WAY more than what he has done since. I'm not going to lie, I thought Del Toro would have been a much better pick, so maybe I am a little biased against Jackson for this. I also however do not like LOTR, not because I need attention but because I don't like it. They felt hollow. They felt too long (being 3 films doesn't mean it is too long, but when it feels too long watching it and I notice I'm not going to lie to myself). It's an opinion. I only mentioned it to say why I was on the fence still (and honestly leaning towards passing) on The Hobbit. Loved Martin Freeman in The Office and Sherlock (and even Confetti!) Cumberbtach having dual roles doesn't hurt it either. I just get this 3 film feeling that it is going to be another LOTR, which I didn't like. People who like LOTR should be happy I'm saying that, really. It's me who has to deal with not liking them and being nervous about The Hobbit.
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Are you guys serious? This is cringeworthy stuff. The three LOTR songs complement their films but also work as stand alone songs. What the fuck is this heigh-ho heigh-ho shit? Who would listen to this? Man, every Hobbit update seems to just get worse and worse.
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I absolutely loved the deep dwarven voices of the version in the trailer and I like the idea of a folk song version, but there's something about the mix that feels a little off ... maybe it's the quality of the stream or my aging ears, but I find the words vanish a little too far into the background orchestration once it gets out of the main chorus.
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I think you're all fucked in the head. At least those complaining. Sure, its a bit odd and poppy after the minute mark, but I dig the overall vibe.
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And the hell with it.
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Why do so many modern fantasy films look like they took a bath in goat pee? That dull olive green everywhere. Is it supposed to look goth or cool or something? Sucks. Tolkien didn't paint his worlds in drab colors, and he didn't write them that way either. I already hate Jackson's take on the Dwarfs. Where are the white and yellow and blue beards? The scarlet, gold and white hoods? The silver tassels? Jackson's Dwarfs look like they escaped from a gothic S & M sideshow. Balls!
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Nov. 13, 2012, 12:34 a.m. CST
Neil Finn should've been president!!!! Uh what?!?! no seriously SPLIT ENZ FOR LIFE BITCHES!!! I see red.
by peter
Another reason N.Z. is the best place on the planet. OZ KISS MY KIWI ASS ;)
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Nov. 13, 2012, 12:41 a.m. CST
cotton mcnight you're a moron. you know it. we ALL know it by now. You don't have a clue what the hell you're talking about as u.s.u.a.l....
by peter
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Nov. 13, 2012, 12:44 a.m. CST
PJ cast MANY MANY BLACK ACTORS IN LOTR, quite frankly I'm sick of your bs trolling. GIVE IT UP MUTHAFUCKA :) it's reallllll old.
by peter
You say the same old shit, everytime a PJ forum starts. WE GET IT!!! YOU'RE ALL PISSY AND A CRY BABY BECAUSE PJ OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T CAST YOU OR YOU WERE REJECTED OR YOU WERE DROPPED ON YOUR HEAD, really who gives a rats ass. You're such a dick. lol. really a DICK! The fact you even had to mention 'don't worry I won't mention PJ is a racist' blah blah blah... oh my gosh... SO OVER IT!!!
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What the fuck?
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A new article related to Peter Jackson? Looks like it's my time to shine! Man, coming up with this whole racism rant was the best thing I ever did – it gets people so riled up! Who's invisible now, world?
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fucking genius
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Is the extras. 3 films = 6 hours of extras. I'm happy
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The Return of the King was 3 hours long, and it didn't "Fluff" to fill time, it had MASSive chunks ripped out. If they were to film that One book as it was written it would have been 3 movies on its own, and that's Before they got to the Scouring of the Shire. Anyone who's read Tolkein will know there's More than enough source material for this pivotal time in the the Third Age, and not just the appendices. The Tolkein had swathes of unfinished writings on the background of this period, and the Battle of Dol Guldur alone, is epic.
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Hope the films turn out ok. LOTR was 75% good and 25% invented horseshit. I worry that the narrative of The Hobbit won't sustain three movies and that PJ's invented horseshit will swell from 25% to something much larger in this trilogy. The Lovely Bones was a complete disaster... hopefully Jackson has learned something from that.
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Nov. 13, 2012, 4:16 a.m. CST
Not nearly as good as any of the LotR ending songs.
by The_Guy_Who_Invented_Coca_Cola
Also, calling it now, The Hobbit end credits songs will all be male singers to contrast with the three female singers from the originals.
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Haters gonna hate. BTW, all of you whining bitches, PJ is back to form. Just look what he did with the Beard in Tintin.
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if you're wondering why people call you guys fanboy faggot losers--shit like this is why. Cringeworthy.
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Then I say HUZZAH! It was most good. I kept wanting it to flow just like the verses written by JRR in the Hobbit. But aside from that, Neil Finn turned out good product. As to the 3 ending songs for LOTR: 1) Enya was good, but very new agey. 2) The second singer who did Gollum's song, hated it. 3) Annie Lennox rocked it with the Gray Havens song. Hoping this time around all 3 are fantastic.
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The name Neil Finn is usually a good sign. People who post complaints about LOTR and The 3 Hobbit films in these sort of threads need to get a life.
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They should be doing songs for this and the other movies.
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Has to be the end credits song - really enjoyed it! It also had that slight anvil bashing percussion like Poledouris score for CONAN THE BARBARIAN. Bring on THE HOBBIT!
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Reminds me of 'Still...You Turn Me On', or maybe some other ELP tune. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8VHHcd0M_o
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Nov. 13, 2012, 7:24 a.m. CST
Empire has just posted the entire Shore soundtrack to play...
by SminkyPinky
Go, NOW!!! http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=35757
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It's no "Where There's a Whip, There's a Way," but it gets the job done...
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Nov. 13, 2012, 7:58 a.m. CST
I've always been a little confused about how they're going to separate the book into 3 films
by Halloween68
At first it sounded like they were going to end the first film between the misty mountains and the mirkwood forest. Maybe after eagles and before beorn. Then I was guessing they would end the second movie at maybe the barrels after mirkwood and before laketown. But now, if this is the song for the end credits of the first film, sounds like the film will at least get to where bilbo climbs the tree to find out where the party is in mirkwood (where he spots the purple emporer butterfly). You could maybe make it so Bilbo actually sees the lonely mountain faintly in the distance. Other than that, again, maybe the first film gets to the barrel scene after escaping the elves. Either way, I'm completely discombobulated. Anyone have any ideas about this? Is the 3rd film just going to be completely made up? I thought they were going to split up the book into 3 parts and then add the necromancer parts and the white council parts to fill out the scripts. PS. I like the song. It's better than the Enya song at the end of Fellowship. Though, I liked the James Bond sounding song at the end of Two Towers and Annie Lennox's Return of the King song equally. Neil Finn's an underappreciated musician.
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Bilbo and the dwarfs being carried off by Gwahir and the Eagles.
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I think the Battle of the Five Armies is going to take up a great deal of the 3rd film. It's barely described in the book owing to a certain someone blakcing out and that would be a massive cheat and slap in the face to a cinema audience. So I see them doing that full scale justice. That and the consequences of the entire adventure (Bilbo returning home, Sauron settling back in Mordor, Gollum leaving the mountain).
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Touching!
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Nov. 13, 2012, 8:45 a.m. CST
Neil Finn from Crowded House? What.. was The Cutting Crew too busy?
by Cotton_Mcknight
I told that joke last night and it got a laugh...
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In the middle of the Earth, in the Land of the Shire lives a brave little Hobbit that we all admire...
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Nov. 13, 2012, 9:07 a.m. CST
Why isn't it the dwarf version from the trailer/commercial? This version sounds awful.
by Drew
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Presumably because your audience were unintelligent.
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But huge elsewhere. Their fifth album from a few years ago (when they reformed following the suicide of Paul Hester, which kinda brought everyone together again) was excellent.
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The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings were huge in the 60s and 70s among the counterculture and folk scenes. This song fits in very well with that tone, and they got a Kiwi to do it. btw, Crowded House weren't technically one hit wonders. More like one album wonders. They produced, I think, 4 hits from that one album. Subsequent albums didn't do as well. And I cannot believe that people are complaining these movies might be too long, unironically stating their short attention spans as the reason. Really?? Why would anyone complain about spending too much time in Tolkien's world? I wish they would show the 4 hour extended editions in the the theaters. Hell, give me a new Tolkien movie every year for the next 20 years, that will start to be enough. When did fanboys become whiny, cynical hipsters who actually want LESS of what they love?
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You guys do know that no one is forcing you to watch the movie. No one is making you pay to go see it. Most of you bitch and complain but are going to see it anyway. Stop being a bunch of pansy asses.
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Like say the score for Star Wars which is so recognisible. Haven't heard this yet though.
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Folky but not cheesy.
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The film itself (Krull) was a cheesefest but the music was great.
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Subsequent albums didn't do as well.
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http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=35757
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go to http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=35757 at about 22:30 in or thereabouts and you'll here it....a chill...love it much more than this end credit version
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HEAR not Here... I'm a mentally challenged dwavfish fool
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It correctly manages the balance between needing to be rousing and also to convey sadness and loss. The war of the Ring is the last hurrah of Men and Elves in middle earth; the ages of great figures and great deeds are coming to an end, and much of it will be lost from common memory. Like tears in collective rain. Even though I think all three films are flawed, I think the opening to Fellowship is near-perfect, because it emphasizes this sadness right from the off, and the first of Shore's motifs we hear are the ones connected with the sadness of the past: his leitmotifs for the elves ('The world is changing...') and for the ring ('It began with the forging of the great rings...').
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Stupid fucking AICN. Subsequent albums didn't do as well IN THE US, but their third album Woodface was actually their most successful overall. Weather with You, It's Only Natural, Fall at your Feet etc. All huge hits internationally. Their opening single from Woodface seemed to piss people off in the States because it seemed to be anti-American, whereas in fact it was a tongue-in-cheek diatribe against consumerism.
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Seriously, everything that's come out for these movies so far has just underwhelmed me as opposed to the trilogy which had me chomping at the bit. I think my main fear here is that PJ is epic-ising this story when it definitely is NOT epic except in the very end with the Battle of Five Armies. All other aspects make this a children's story and it doesn't seem to be translating very well. The visuals are the only thing so far that is getting me to go see this as I'm not optimistic of the changes PJ is making. Sure hope I'm wrong.
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Make as many Tolkien movies as you want. The Silmarillion trilogy? I'll pay to see that. The Children of Hurin trilogy? I'll pay to see that as well.
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Nov. 13, 2012, 5:13 p.m. CST
The Hobbit might be a kids story but I don't think they should be kids films.
by LORDOFLIGHT
I don't see anything wrong with making the films more grown up.
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Nov. 13, 2012, 5:16 p.m. CST
I don't mind some humour but these films shouldn't be comic parodies.
by LORDOFLIGHT
I've read there's more comic bits in them so I hope we don't get a bunch of sillyass shenanigans from the Dwarves and Hobbits every couple of minutes.
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Those bits with Gimli and the dwarf tossing weren't funny and they ruined the tension of the battle.
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And that Woman in Red shit....which middle aged females love.
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Nov. 13, 2012, 7:12 p.m. CST
Best thing since Molly Ringwald listened to Crowded House in Stephen King's The Stand
by BBSloth
'member that?
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Don't even fix a price. Don't pay the ferrydwarf til he gets you to the other side.
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I think you mean The Lady in Red. The Woman in Red was a slightly naff romantic comedy with Gene Wilder and Kelly LeBrock, with the title song sung by Stevie Wonder.
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Well sure, if you're happy with not having Beorn, getting very thin characterizations, and having the Battle of Five Armies take place almost entirely off-screen, and what is seen is just a bunch of dots scrambling all over the screen, sure.... This is not a good argument for why The Hobbit should not be three movies.
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Not as bad as I expected. Grows on you easily. I really like the tribal, workmanlike chanting in the background. Sounds very Dwarvish to me.
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