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Steven Spielberg Doesn’t Want The STAR WARS Job!! Nor Apparently Does Quentin Tarantino And Zach Snyder!! UPDATED: StarWars.com Confirms Michael Arndt To Script VII!!
Will the director of the Indiana Jones films be involved with Disney’s upcoming “Star Wars” movies? "No! No!” Steven Spielberg told Access Hollywood. “It's not my genre, it's my best friend George's genre."
Which genre do we imagine Spielberg is talking about? Action or sci-fi?
According to Vulture, Spielberg is one of the director who’s actually seen the 3-movie treatment drafted by “Little Miss Sunshine” writer Michael Arndt. (Two others are J.J. Abrams and Brad Bird.)
Back in the 1970s, Spielberg told the world he was keen on the idea of directing a Star Wars movie.
So maybe that msyterious treatment for episodes VII, VII and IX isn't such hot stuff?
Quentin Tarantino tells Entertainment Weekly “I could so care less” about the looming trilogy. “No, sorry. Especially if Disney’s going to do it. I’m not interested in the Simon West version of Star Wars.”
West directed “Con Air” for Disney, as well as such other big-screen fare as “The General’s Daughter,” “Tomb Raider 2,” “The Mechanic” and “Expendables 2.”
“I don’t think I’d be interested in [directing it],” Zach Snyder, who directed “300,” “Watchmen” and “Man of Steel,” told the Los Angeles Times. “I’m a huge ‘Star Wars’ fanatic. I just think doing [episodes] seven, eight and nine is just a slippery slope. It’s a whole other mythological experiment I’m excited to see, but it’s a lot of effort.”
I hope it goes to J.J. Abrams, a mammoth “Star Wars” enthusiast who could bring back to “Star Wars” what was missing from all the “Star Wars” movies released subsequent to “The Empire Strikes Back”: some sharp humor.
The trick would be for Disney to allow Abrams, who wrote or co-wrote four of the best TV pilots I've ever seen, to utilize as much or as little of that treatment as he prefers.
UPDATE: starwars.com confirms Michael Arndt will script Episode VII:
Michael Arndt to Write Screenplay for Star Wars: Episode VIINovember 09, 2012
As pre-production of Star Wars: Episode VII begins, Lucasfilm has confirmed that award-winning writer Michael Arndt will write the screenplay for the new Star Wars film. As revealed in the ongoing video series posted here on StarWars.com, Kathleen Kennedy and George Lucas have begun story conferences with Arndt. Arndt won an Academy Award® for Best Original Screenplay for writing Little Miss Sunshine (2006), and was nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay for writing Toy Story 3 (2010).
For more news about Star Wars: Episode VII -- slated for a 2015 release -- keep checking StarWars.com.
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The trick would be for Disney to allow Abrams, who wrote or co-wrote four of the best TV pilots I've ever seen,, to utilize as much or as little of that treatment as he prefers.
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Lucas drafted the treatment and Arndt was the last name rumored to handle the actual screenwriting duties. I love how all these different stories are getting mashed into one. COME ON, MAN!
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Nov. 9, 2012, 7:26 p.m. CST
A new world record-TB has been up for 30 sec and posts are already all fucked up
by Jobacca
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Nov. 9, 2012, 7:27 p.m. CST
The best starwars was directed by Lucas' film professor. No need flash in the pan director
by mistergreen
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Damn it Quentin, sack up and get workin on this movie. Take the Disney screenplay, wipe your ass with it, then light it on fire, and rewrite it with an R rated edition featuring actual characters, non CGI fight scenes, and crazy dialogue. If you wanna make Christopher Waltz the bad guy, Im all for that. Just keep Jamie Fox away and limit the shit out of Harrison "grumpy fuck" Ford in the movie. Hes no longer happy go lucky Han so dont let him even talk in the movie. Just have him stand around and use his blaster.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 7:32 p.m. CST
HOW THE HELL IS THIS A SURPRISE???!!! ITS OWNED BY FUKING DISNEY AND SPIELBERGS BEST FRIEND!!
by wannabedirector
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for the love of GOD please keep abrams away from Star Wars....he totally does not understand big ideas as was proven with that travesty called star trek. he does not respect was has come before and has no talent at all. I can only imagine what an ass kisser he must be to get the opportunities he gets. please please keep him away from this
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That's all that matters to me right now
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Nov. 9, 2012, 7:36 p.m. CST
Is this going to be a game of quality directors refusing to do SW...
by tailhook
Until George Lucas finally breaks down and agrees to do it, so that Michael Bay doesn't? Is that the game here?
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Bird is the more bankable guy in Disney's eyes, but Johntson nailed it with Captain America and has the Star Wars connection.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 7:37 p.m. CST
Is there a petition yet for Disney to release the OT unfucked?
by Scott Sullivan
I'd love to be enthusiastic about this 7-8-9 trilogy, but it's difficult when I'm forced to look at Hayden's ghost and hear Temuera Morrison coming out of Boba Fett and all that shit. I would like to be free from all prequel influence.
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BUT, I agree. That is my #1 or 2 prospect after hearing the Disney deal news.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 7:41 p.m. CST
It's a question of LOYALTY. It clear that Spielberg simply doesn't want to take deal with Star Wars after Lucas is no longer behind the reigns
by Proman1984
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Nov. 9, 2012, 7:42 p.m. CST
It's really no surprise at all. Spielberg knew Lucas since before Star Wars. He wouldn't do it behind Lucas' back
by Proman1984
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http://starwars.com/news/michael-arndt-to-write-screenplay-for-star-wars-episode-vii.html
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Nov. 9, 2012, 7:46 p.m. CST
Thanks cartagia, hopefully Fox/Disney will eventually figure out what the fans want.
by Scott Sullivan
Hint: it's not a dance number in JEDI.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 7:46 p.m. CST
I want to talk about this further on ASK MR.KERN tomorrow night.
by adeceasedfan
Check the HERC ON THE RADIO post in a few hours for details. Yep, that's what I want to do. And make love to an Ewok... Well, maybe it's just a Furry in an Ewok costume, but I can dream right.
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Every time I heard his name mentioned with Episode 7, I wanted to slap someone. He's too close to it. He's friends with Lucas. He's on a totally different path right now. It needs someone more hungry, and who can devote everything to it for the next 3 years. And I'm the biggest Spielberg fan, but this is good news.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 7:51 p.m. CST
This is no indication whatsoever that the treatment is crap...
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
I doubt any of these guys, except maybe Spielberg, have even read it or been offered the job. Why anyone would expect Tarantino to want to direct a Star Wars movie anyway is beyond me. Even if the treatment / screenplay was better than the works of Shakespeare, Aristotle, Ibsen and Brecht combined, Cokey is far too wrapped up in his own little cinematic fantasy world to lay his ego at the door and play in somebody else's pool. And, on reflection, it doesn't decisively mean Spielberg isn't doing this, either. He probably isn't, but why would he just spill the beans to an entertainment reporter before an official announcement, and before the stipulations and negotiations required for him to agree to the job, can be made? Hell, Lucas outright lied for years about having no story for episodes 7-9 so I wouldn't put it past Spielberg to tell a few porkies as well.
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He worked on the first 3 and did a damn fine job with Captain America.
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So if a homo can deliver the goods, go right ahead I say.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 7:59 p.m. CST
Supersoldier, I'd rather watch gay sex than sit through another AOTC.
by Scott Sullivan
Anakin and Padme were straight and that relationship was fucking torturous.
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There's almost nothing "gayer" than creepy old Palpatine "seducing" Anakin at the Cirque du Soleil performance in ROTS, and that was 100% Lucas. P.S. - Truman Capote wrote "In Cold Blood".
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of shit.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 8:01 p.m. CST
Noooooooooo.... but look at his silly hat.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2304487168/nm1578335
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Nov. 9, 2012, 8:02 p.m. CST
Tarantino is right with the Simon West remark
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
They want a populist happy meal choice that won't challenge anyone by being too weird or arty. Kind of like a PIXAR film.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 8:05 p.m. CST
HOW THE FUCK IS THE WRITER OF LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE A FUCKING STAR WARS FAN- LET ALONE QUALIFIED TO FUKING WRITE ONE???!!!!
by wannabedirector
..............it's cool, still have the Original Trilogy to watch.............................................................................................................................................
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Nov. 9, 2012, 8:07 p.m. CST
Wow?! What's QT's beef with Disney? Could a cinephile of Tarantino's stature truly "couldn't care less" about Star Wars?
by ThulsaBoom
I mean, we know Disney will never hire a scrub for this and QT was just talking rotten, but could a Simon West Star Wars be any worse than the last three? I'd love a Paul Verhoven directed, hard R Star Wars set solely during the night Leia spent as Jabba's prisoner as much as the next guy, but Tarantino comes off as a total asshole in that quote. Hope Django is good.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 8:08 p.m. CST
The genre Spielberg is refering to is the "Star Wars" genre...
by ThulsaBoom
...it is kind of like fucking your best friend's ex-wife.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 8:09 p.m. CST
What was the point of casting aspersions upon the quality of the ep.7-9 draft, Herc?
by Al
Bit of random editorializing throw into the middle of a news recap in a single sentence kinda stood out.
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Yeah, I doubt that has anything to do with the quality of the script. Maybe the intervening four decades has just given Spielberg new perspective? Possibly because he and his buddy Lucas are two of the most influential men in Hollywood and don't need to suck any dick much less each other's? I wouldn't take it as a sign of anything is all I'm saying. Much as I'd love to see a Spielberg Star Wars movie I think that ship sailed many many years ago.
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He's good but you'd never be able to see the action through all the fucking lens flares.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 8:15 p.m. CST
Snyder would be an awful fit for Star Wars. His apprehension is welcomed.
by ThulsaBoom
I'd rather see Snyder direct something like Planet Hulk. Something he can just copy, and focus on bringing the visual punch to life. We definitely need more comic adaptations like 300. We definitely do not need anything like Sucker Punch ever again.
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I could see J.C. Chandor (Would make more "trade talk" palatable)... Tony Gilroy... or hey... Lawrence Kasdan is still alive!
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I hear Pierre Jeunet has also excluded himself...
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All I see is he's going to script it I can't BELIEVE this is farther along. It's going to be a rush job at this point. Also, Snyder sounds like he's being a pussy
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The problem with those two, as is now ABUNDANTLY CLEAR, three years since Star Trek and post-Prometheus is they are TV people. Their ideas are fine for the boob tube where, most of the time, you forget about what you just watched very fast, even if it is well written. There's just something about their sensibility that makes everything they do, the jokey interplay in Star Trek, the thin characterizations and questionable motivations in Prometheus, very forgettable. I was entertained by ST and even Abrams MI3 and Super 8. But the criticisms about these guys work being cotton candy are dead on. Please don't misunderstand me, I wouldn't say they're not talented, they are, I just think they're incapable of making lasting, classic entertainment like their heroes, I.e - Spielberg, Scott, Cameron, and Lucas in their prime. If they get their hands on Star Wars, it MIGHT be a great time at the movies, but it won't be a good time on repeat home viewings in the years that follow. Hell, even the prequels are more memorable in their uniquely stubborn vision than anything Abrams or Lindelof have been attached to.
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Lando: 'What does Jabba the Hut look like??? Does he look like a bitch?!?"
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Nov. 9, 2012, 8:18 p.m. CST
Brad Bird for Director - George Clooney Han Solo replacement
by kikuchiyoboy
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Nov. 9, 2012, 8:18 p.m. CST
Oh fer... it's "COULDN'T care less"!!! "COULD care less" implies that you care at least a little!
by 3D-Man
Think of it this way: replace the word "care" with the word "have." "I could have less" means you at least have something. "I couldn't have less" means you have nothing. ARRRGHHHH!!!!!!!
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Nov. 9, 2012, 8:19 p.m. CST
Can't wait for Lars Von Trier to be quoted as having no interest in the job
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
Hell, they might as well ask Woody Allen to throw in his two cents.
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He strikes me as a flexible thinker, someone who can appreciate different movies for different reasons. The prequels may be bad (or not - whatever), but there's no lack of stuff to take in, on any number of levels.
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Toy Story 3 was beautiful.
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Based on Lucas's story treatments. Another writer still to be announced.
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We're all entitled to our our opinions, but in the end Kennedy and Lucas will choose their director to either our approval or dismay. I recall that Lucas' main focus when making Episode IV was to do it the way "he" envisioned it. He did all he could to secure the funding and ensure things were on track. He even suffered from panic attacks as a result. After he sacrificed himself and delivered one of the greatest blockbusters ever, he vowed he wouldn't direct another SW movie. We all know what happened with the Prequels, but we forget that without Lucas' original efforts and imagination we may still be watching B-movie quality sci-fi. After ANH he thought he could focus on building Lucasfilm, which he ultimately did. How can anyone blame him for wanting to be involved in making movies based on his creation. He may have complicated things since he wasn't officially direct ESB or ROTJ, but they still maintained his vision of what the SW universe was about. Times have changed. The movie/fandom world and especially the technologies used
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Nov. 9, 2012, 8:23 p.m. CST
Return Of The Jedi didn't have sharp humor? Christ, will this contrived Jedi bashing ever stop?
by Jay
It's fascinating to live long enough to see people retcon their opinion.
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But #1 he's all wrong for SW #2 NO fans would realistically want him directing SW anyway #3 We really don't want him near it if he's going to have that cunty attitude toward it. That said - still a big fan....lol. now put out the fucking kill bill directors cut already before the hair on my balls go gray!!!!!!
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Nov. 9, 2012, 8:28 p.m. CST
They can't announce the other writer, because he is also the director
by wadi77
Brad Bird and JJ Abrams are writers. Please let it be Brad Bird. And Pixar alums now completely takes over Star Wars. I still want John Powell if Williams not coming back, though Bird might use his favorite Giacchino.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 8:28 p.m. CST
There are fanboys who come on here to jack off to Tim Allen as the voice of Buzz Lightyear who are wearing this EXACT same hat
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2304487168/nm1578335 it's like that smug asshole the Nostalgia Critic We don't need no more fucking cute-ass Mom movies, we need movies made by hand by actual sci-fi geniuses again. a Joe Dante Lawrence Kasdan Barry Levinson sort of guy, not the guy who wrote the power point presentation for next season's wave of Happy Meal toys
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Continued... Bottom line is that Lucas is SW and vice versa. If there is a young Lucas type director out there with the sole determination to bring his creations to life, I hope they find he or she. Otherwise we'll have to settle for someone they trust. Lucas wasn't able to juggle script with visuals, so that's why the Prequels disappointed me. I'll never fault him for trying, because it's his baby and I'm glad I got to enjoy his movies and now I get to share them with my kids.
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I'm willing to give this guy a chance. I liked little miss sunshine and toy story 3. He also has more sci fi related screenplays in various phases of production. I'm gonna wait it out and see how it develops before jumping to conclusions on whether he is qualified or not to do this. By the way what does his sexual orientation have to do with it?
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PULP WARS followed by JEDI DOGS and ending the epic trilogy with IMPERIAL BASTARDS. Yeah, I would pay to see those. But at this point, I have no real interest in SW any more. Lucas made sure of that.
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Two Oscar noms and one win are good enough for me. Man this has been a fucking whirlwind of a week, eh?
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Nov. 9, 2012, 8:32 p.m. CST
Raja Gosnell director of SMURFS and Bevery Hills Chihuahua to helm new version of Asmov's Foundation trilogy
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Fuck Pixar in the plastic toy ass for devaluing animation and kid's movies in general. Today's kids deserve Henson and the Neverending Story, not this horseshit.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 8:33 p.m. CST
thefreshestthing - WHAT WAS BEAUTIFUL ABOUT FUKING TOYS TALKING TO EACH OTHER??!!! LMFAO YOU HACK!!!
by wannabedirector
if you like films made for mass merchandise and commercial appeal with absolutely nothing above a fart joke, then it is a fuking masterpiece-o-shit
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Nov. 9, 2012, 8:36 p.m. CST
like winning an Oscar equals some pinnacle of artistic talent??
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Asshole. Toy Story three taking an Oscar from The Illusionist is just the fucking stripmall suburban mentality that is taking cinema and turning into into crap beloved by people who cry during episodes of The Office Weep for Star Wars and the entire classic 1982 era Hollywood is raping and exploiting. It's like holding The Bible next to a coloring book written by Kathie Lee Gifford to teach kids how to shit.
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That Star Trek movie was the worst thing I've ever seen. Beyond the terrible script, the action scenes in Star Trek were dull and confusing. J.J. Abrams doesn't have one hundredth of Lucas' visual sense. As a writer, J.J. Abrams knows how to begin a story but he has no clue about the middle or the end. He burnt me with ALIAS, with LOST and then with STAR TREK. I refuse to watch anything touched by that man or his cronies.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 8:39 p.m. CST
wannabedirector - to be fair, maybe it was the whippits
by thefreshestthing
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because Edgar told him that Revenge of the Sith was the Star Wars movie people have been waiting for! Quentin went to see it, and told Edgar afterwards "What were you smoking?". Then the two begin to make fun of Vader's "NNOOOOOOOOO"!
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ain't sayin' shit cuz he's neck deep in it!!
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Nov. 9, 2012, 8:46 p.m. CST
thefreshestthing - ....and seriously, it was ADAPTED!!! I love lamp........
by wannabedirector
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Why not actually provide a little background instead of just cutting and pasting? This Arndt guy knows his stuff when it comes to Star Wars and has written about that. The guy loves Star Wars and this sort of thing certainly instills confidence in me. Sorry, this was the best link i could find dealing with the content of his lectures-http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?280828-stories-with-no-visible-end-goal-for-hero/page3
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The first trilogy should be his. Each of the movies should clock in at about 4 hours each with that cool little intermission thing they used to before everyone got so darn busy. When released to blu-ray via the director's cut each of the films will have a trt of 5 hours. Here's hoping Leia and Han have twin girls who love light sabers!
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has directed fantasy action and sci fi, really? wtf not his genre? maybe not anymore. I want more Star Wars but it won't be easy as no Darth Vader and everyone else is old but it worked for Star Trek with next generation, I like Next Gen better so why not Star Wars's next generation
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Hollywood needs new blood at the top anyway, so hire me!:)
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Nov. 9, 2012, 8:57 p.m. CST
There is no WAY it's gunna be JJ. He already made his Star Wars movie....it's called Star Trek. Not a chance in the world he gets both franchises.
by JediRob
I'm sure he's too busy with Trek anyway to even consider it.
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who would play han??
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I love Spielberg - when I see his name attached to direct a movie, I know at the very least I'm in for a quality film, if not always his personal best. Even Crystal Skull, while the worst he's ever done, was largely bad due to the writing and in particular the casting of Shia Lepoof. But 3 Star Wars films? I don't think I'd want to have him locked away behind a 6 year commitment at this stage in his career - there are so many amazing original projects that we'd be denied if he did. Frankly, if he's going to take on any sequel, I want him to take Jurassic Park back. But he wont do that either, sadly. After JPIII, if the series will be anything more than laughable, it needs a strong closing chapter - especially considering it was never meant to be a franchise to begin with.
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...about Leia.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 9:06 p.m. CST
Anyone doubting Michael Arndt's credentials (@wannabedirector sunzu 77 etc)
by migmog
Michael Arndt's lecture on the importance of Star Wars A New Hope is a highly respected work. He shows a great insight and passion for the material. This guy is a real fan This is not just any random person brought in for this job. The script could not be in better hands IMHO and why SW is safer with Disney than any other studio
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THANK THE MAKER Zach Snyder doesn't want the job. I still think Joss Whedon would be great, but since it might interfere with Avenger 2, that wont happen.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 9:10 p.m. CST
UPDATE: Ed Wood just turned down directing the new trilogy.
by Missing Dink
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Nov. 9, 2012, 9:11 p.m. CST
jackiechanbara - thanks for helping solidify the fact that MICHAEL ARNDT WRITING EPISODE VII = D.O.A.
by wannabedirector
What made Cast Away a bore and a bad film in my opinion, is because he did what all of us would do. There weren't any big choices he had to make that would change the plot. The plot, if you call it that, was to get off the island. No duh. A stranded dog would have had the same end desire and goal. The dog would likely not live as long, considering it has less intelligence, but none the less, it goes to show that when characters don't have real choices to make and are simply 'rolling in the break', the power of story is weakened.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 9:14 p.m. CST
Who cares about what Zach Snyder has to say about anything?
by hank henshaw
Will Sam Jackson return as the long lost relative to Mace Windu, Jax Windu?
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Nov. 9, 2012, 9:15 p.m. CST
LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT.....HE JUST SAID A MAN ON AN ISLAND HAS NO STORY, AND ROBERT ZEMECKIS IS AN IDIOT!!! GTFO.... ARNDT BELONGS IN A CEREAL BOX!!!
by wannabedirector
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Nov. 9, 2012, 9:17 p.m. CST
Comparing Star Wars stoytelling to Pixar is like holding up The Bible next to a coloring book written by Kathie Lee Gifford to teach kids how to piss and shit
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
I don't care about his brilliant thesis on the thematic Hero's Journey of Luke Skywalker, this is the guy wrote Toy Story 3, which basically just copies a lot of Brave Little Toaster structure and hits the sentimental notes for the Golden Girls crowd and their stepdaughters
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Nov. 9, 2012, 9:20 p.m. CST
If it's Lucas' treatments (with Lucas helping Arndt), no JJ, and most importantly, John Williams for 7-9. It might be something worthwhile.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 9, 2012, 9:20 p.m. CST
Moms don't give a fuck, they just pick up any movie from the shelf with a CGI Gopher these days
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
The housewives who bought all those copies of Bambi 2 and Alladin three have a lot of fucking dough to spend, and their tastes are the ones getting screenplays greenlit anymore That's the sad truth
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Nov. 9, 2012, 9:22 p.m. CST
" Which genre do we imagine Spielberg is talking about? Action or sci-fi?" Myths
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 9, 2012, 9:22 p.m. CST
Also, Spielberg is already CREDITED for choreographing two fight sequences in Episode III
by Proman1984
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I don't want some fudge packer writing Star Wars. How many cocks did he suck to get this far?
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That makes me sad.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 9:26 p.m. CST
I've seen every Trek in theatres except II (and the one where Kirk dies) - By far the worst experience was JJ Abrams Trek
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 9, 2012, 9:26 p.m. CST
Fuck Disney and their corporate hipster mentality. Burn it down.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Hire some fucking artists. Use real mattes. Film cels, model-makers, miniature, puppeteers, Brian Henson, Phil Tippet, Stephen Moffat This Disney/ Pixar hype goes down better than Full Throttle Mountain Dew, but audiences are lying to themselves if they don't think they're being cheated out of the days when guys like Spielberg and E.T. made puppets and animatronics an indelible part of our generation's imaginative growth. Not one character has even come close to being beloved the way E.T. Was. That was a loooong time ago.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 9:27 p.m. CST
I think its unlikely we'll see one director for three films
by Logan_1973
I've got a feeling it'll be a different dude (or gal, to be fair) for each movie.
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Whedon could nail it!
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Nope I thought that info would shed some light on why this screen writer was chosen is all. I am 100% organic
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Nov. 9, 2012, 9:30 p.m. CST
Is Arndt an anti establishment type? I think not. The power of Star Wars was not the timing of resolutions, it was the bold defiance against the powers that be.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 9, 2012, 9:33 p.m. CST
So Spielberg is going to drag John Williams into more historical dramas while some hack takes over Star Wars? Et tu, Brute?
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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The one that says Bad Motherfucker!
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...when Pulp Fiction came out? So, in a weird way, Pulp Fiction is kind of a Disney film. Jesus, Tarantino talks out of his ass sometimes. Or most of the time, recently. Disney owning Marvel brought us The Avengers, just cos they own the company means we're going to get Darth Vader with fucking Mickey Mouse ears. QT wouldn't want to do it probably because it wouldn't be "his" vision. And by that, I mean copy and pasted segments from other people's visions blatantly plastered everywhere under the guise of "homage" and some increasingly juvenile bullshit...Wait a minute...WHAT'S HAPPENED TO ME? (Looks down at black gloved hand). I've become what I once fought against...A Tarantino critic on Aint It Cool.....NOOOOOOOO!! Nah, but seriously, that's a narrow minded quote. When's he going ot get back into Jackie Brown mode? And yeah, get Bird to direct.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 9:45 p.m. CST
rocklobster800: no I think the Weinsteins already owned it back then
by Ricardo
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He will direct it, you know it to be true: Luke Skywalker: The Sith aren't complicated, Alfred. Just have to figure out what he's after. Alfred: With respect Master Luke, perhaps this is a man that *you* don't fully understand, either. A long time ago, I was on Tatooine. My friends and I were working for the Hutts. They were trying to buy the loyalty of the Jedi by bribing them with lightsaber crystals. But caravans were being raided in a desert north of the Sarlacc by a bandit. So, we went looking for the crystals. But in six months, we never met anybody who traded with him. One day, I saw a child playing with a lightsaber crystal the size of a tangerine. The bandit had been throwing them away. Luke Skywalker: So why steal them? Alfred: Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like credits. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the galaxy burn.
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Just imagine the potential fucking lens flares on the lightsabers.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 9:57 p.m. CST
- ''Use real mattes. Film cels, model-makers, miniature, puppeteers, Brian Henson, Phil Tippet, Stephen Moffat''
by Jay
No wonder the whiney bitches are never happy... Guess what? It ain't going to happen. They're not going to revert back to late 70s technology just to please anti-digital whiners who lurk online. From a technical standpoint, this will be closer to Avatar than 1977 Star Wars. The sooner you get this thru your head, the sooner you may actually start to enjoy something for once. I have no sympathy for people who want the impossible and purposely set themselves for disappointment. You're the worst kind of fan because you so clearly want nothing new. You want the same old, same old. Rinse. Wash. Repeat.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 9:57 p.m. CST
rocklobster800: Miramax was owned by Disney during the Pulp Ficiton days
by broderick crawford
Disney purchased it in 1993, sold it in 2010. Pulp Fiction was 1994. So actually Tarantino was a Disney associate for much of his career. I couldn't help but think his bad-mouthing Disney in the quote was a show of loyalty to the Weinsteins.
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Star Trek (2009) 95% positive reviews on Rotten Tomatoes Garnered greatest number of tickets sold for a Star Trek movie ever, despite a sharp decrease in tickets sold generally over the prior two decades. Highest-grossing Star Trek movie of all time with $385,680,446 worldwide. That's before Blu-ray and DVD. If you hated it, there were people who felt differently.
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Then I'm already worried about the people in control of this project. I don't dislike the man. I'm a fan of some of his movies but what in his body of work suggests he would be a good fit for the Star Wars world?
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Nov. 9, 2012, 10:01 p.m. CST
HERC - 1 director will NEVER IN THIS LIFETIME direct both STAR WARS AND STAR TREK. sorry to 'update' you on that one.....
by wannabedirector
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Spielberg and the rest saying no to this have the right idea. It's going to be an unbelievable amount of pressure.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 10:04 p.m. CST
Well, that bastard Obama got re-elected, but at least I won't have to put up with a Tarantino StarWars
by Cotton_Mcknight
Thank God he could 'care so less' (sic). I wonder if he has learned how to spell 'bastards' yet?
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Coming from someone who is only vaguely familiar with the show, I thought Abrams's Trek was pretty forgettable. The camerawork was atrocious at times, too. Just jerky/shakey for no apparent reason. Almost like the camera had ADHD. Wasn't impressed by that. And Super 8 had a great first act, a mediocre second act, and a disappointing final act. Not a film I'm interested in revisiting anytime soon. I guess there would be worse choices than Abrams, but I think I agree with whoever said his work seems better suited for TV. Not convinced he has the chops to handle the iconography of classic Star Wars.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 10:08 p.m. CST
Sounds like Spielberg learned his lesson with Indy 4 and doesn't want Lucas looking over his shoulder again.
by broderick crawford
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Nov. 9, 2012, 10:10 p.m. CST
Did anyone here actually SEE THE INCREDIBLES? Jesus christ...
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 9, 2012, 10:12 p.m. CST
A 95% rating IN THIS CULTUURE is the death knell for Star Wars.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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**'70's ** George Lucas: "Special effects are just a tool, a means of telling a story. People have a tendency to confuse them as an end to themselves. A Special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." ..............Get it?
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Nov. 9, 2012, 10:12 p.m. CST
Hercules, why are you a bottom liner studio head?
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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No sane, respectable director or writer who has a career at or near it's zenith will touch this. Why? Because no matter what....the cards are stacked against you; YOU will be held to the Empire Gold Standard and if you do anything less than knock it out of the park there is a damned good chance YOU will be responsible for raping the childhoods of a whole new generation. You may WANT to do it...but in all seriousness...it has the potential to be a career killer.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 10:13 p.m. CST
Hercules, $385,680,446 was probably spent on pushing that movie with ads. Disney knows Lucasfilm accounting. Barely any ads..
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Now that Spielberg won't do it. Between Bird and Abrams, I still prefer Bird though. If 1952 is not Episode VII, then he's out. And please, try to get John Williams it. I wonder who the second writer is. Simon Beaufoy? William Monahan?
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Nov. 9, 2012, 10:19 p.m. CST
Spielberg could learn a thing or two from Lucas. He's better off with Lucas breathing down his neck than making partisan historical fiction.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 9, 2012, 10:20 p.m. CST
QT makes some entertaining little films, but if he ate a bullet I'd laugh.
by conspiracy
No...really....I'd laugh. What a cunt.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 10:21 p.m. CST
sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch speaks reason
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 9, 2012, 10:26 p.m. CST
The movies that get 95% or over on tomatometer, on first run, are TRASH. Lucas always started around 70 and went up or down over time. Even in the "glory days." Controversy earns dissent.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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That is all.
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How someone uses special effects (which is what Lucas was talking about) and using ancient special effects for the sake of nostalgia (What sasquatch was babbling on about) are two completely different things.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 10:36 p.m. CST
I do NOT want the same old, same old sentimental Star Wars we grew up with
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Lucas getting -story by- credit is wonderful and goes back to the OT. What I DO want is someone who understands the work of George Lucas the same way George understood Errol Flynn or The Sinbad movies of Ray Harryhausen And to accept that practical effects work, even in some form, isn't economically viable or possible- is to accept a 2012 neutured Hollywood reality with NO BALLS- and nothing since Jurassic Park came in and changed the effects industry has had anywhere near the mythic and long term impact on audiences of even Willow, or The Neverending Story These stories being told organically, with great care, by human hands and human craftsmen, are the only thing that will ensure their relevance after the hype storm of their initial release has died down. Measure the footprint of the 80's era of fantasy and the highmarks of the 2000's(LOTR, Revenge of the Sith) and it's just pathetic. Old magic and human breath are vital to this miracle called fucking cinema. Disney finding its way back to the studio who once made CARTOONS is absolutely the only thing that's gonna save its soul.
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funny thing is I was actually thinking about this to myself yesterday, that like of all the wishlist directors that fanboys are talking about right now, Spielberg's inevitably going to come up, and I bet you anything, he'd say right off the bat that he would NEVER direct a Star Wars film, that he's just got too much respect for it being George's baby. and lo and behold, I see this "news" story today.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 10:39 p.m. CST
I saw Crystal Skull, and to me it seems like having George Lucas as the primary story guy is not helping him at all
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
in all honesty, Lucas works best as the idea guy, esp with a producer/ director who will editorialize him honestly. Gary Kurtz vs "yes man" Rick MCCallum
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New tech doesn't necessarily equal better tech, otherwise all our movies now would look better than those originated on 65mm like Larry o' Arabia and 2001. It ain't a matter of going back to old tech, it is using what is best for the story ... NOT what is most economical (which seems to be what fueled the 'do it all with CG' drive 15 years back, right when motion control miniature photography was at its best with EVENT HORIZON and SPACE COWBOYS and other forgettable flicks with great VFX.) Even a mixed-up mess like SKYFALL had enough smarts to use really good-sized miniatures for most of the big explosion stuff (MI6 going up, plus the copter crash and resultant fireball) rather than rely on CGI. The sooner you morons who can't learn from the past get it through your hi-tech heads that zeros and ones don't make the movie, the better chance the rest of us will have to be able to see more than just the occasional memorable feature flick, since the rest of the remakes and rethinks and re-ripoffs have to fall into a 'state of the art' box to be marketed to folks like you. And if they want more SW like the prequel disasters, then Abrams would be their man. He has pissed all over STAR TREK and his devil's rain would fit right in with GL's rethink of his own 'verse. If they wanted something more in the vein of original SW, Whedon would be a much better call, as he can deliver characters instead of just inducing tons of amateurish photographic distortions (he used SOME, but not like a kid waving a water hose around, which is the Abrams approach on TREK.)
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Nov. 9, 2012, 10:43 p.m. CST
There's only one choice. Merge Star Wars and Trek and reboot EVERThiNG
by smudgewhat
Han Solo fucks Uhura! Chewy & Scotty share whiskey! R2D2 fucks V'ger! Kirk rim jobs Luke, then drop kicks him! The Millenium Enterprise enters the Dagoba-Fereng Zone. Picard time jumps and fails to bag Aunt Em! (that's her name, right?) Bane fucks Catwoman til she cries tears of uncomfortable joy! Yipppeeee. (I don't even do drugs, can you believe it??)
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Nov. 9, 2012, 10:49 p.m. CST
bantuwind - try real hard to think about it longer....
by wannabedirector
.....so you are saying people should like digital over film? or cgi over practical effects.....??? EITHER FUKING WAY IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THE STORY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF A MOVIE!!!! ....... a solid story can use old and new school techniques in the storytelling process dickslap........
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Nov. 9, 2012, 10:52 p.m. CST
trevanian - AMEN DUDE!!! don't have the patience to spell it out for dumbasses
by wannabedirector
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Did you not see the scene where Spock maroons Kirk on the ice planet disregarding all Starfleet protocol, not to mention all the canonized traits of what people recognize when they think SPOCK? Did you see the part where Scotty gets sucked into some giant turbine in a slapstick Looney Tunes-style scene, or the Adam West Batman? Did you not think introducing Kirk's father as some mythic, Jor-El wannabe at the beginning of a saga was overbaked, heavy handed drama that robbed Kirk of having what he should have had... regular guy origins, farmboy from Iowa stuff?? Did you see the ludicrous skydiving scene? Guy in RED spacesuit bites it, like a cute li'l in-joke for the internets, pretty guys in crew cuts freefalling like its fucking Star Trek Code Red Mountain Dew That movie took Star Trek and fucked it like a Captain Kirk puppet fresh from its vintage box.
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What sasquatch and the ilk say is that they simply want old effects used for the sake of it. (Although now he's trying to spin what he said into something else.) You should be lecturing them, not me. I've pointed out too many times that Ep 1 has the most extensive use of models & miniatures of all the SW movies. Did that make the movie good?
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Come on Robert Zemeckis!!!!
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Nov. 9, 2012, 10:58 p.m. CST
I can recall Peter Jackson saying he'd never direct a Hobbit movie.
by sweeneydave
Wonder who's doing that one then.... Never rule out a director.
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is not the point that sasquatch was arguing. Only argue on behalf of someone if you're arguing about the same thing.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 10:59 p.m. CST
"Revenge of the Sith a highmark of the 2000's"? Get outta here
by hank henshaw
LOTR, yes. But Episode III? There were plenty better action-adventure movies than that in the decade. Otherwise, I agree that the 2000's summer movies were depressing if compared to the 80's summer blockbusters.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 10:59 p.m. CST
A talkback about Star Wars that turns into... Herc's love letter to JJ Abrams? WTF?
by Brian Hopper
The trick would be for Disney to allow Abrams, who wrote or co-wrote four of the best TV pilots I've ever seen, to utilize as much or as little of that treatment as he prefers.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 11:01 p.m. CST
... how is giving free reign to JJ Abrams to do whatever he wants to
by Brian Hopper
the Episode VII story the 'trick' to making it work? Just a totally ridiculous notion.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 11:09 p.m. CST
Only original thoughts here......bantuwind you should read more....lol
by wannabedirector
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My initial post quoted sasquatch. Reread it and his initial post, and it will make sense. You're trying to argue with me based on something I never said, or based on my specific response to someone else.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 11:14 p.m. CST
They should get Bob Vila to direct, and channel the ghost of Bob Ross for concept art
by lv_426
Fuck me. Disney is pretty much screwed at this point. Just about none of the likely candidates are available. Bird would be a great choice, but he is locked up with 1952/Tesla. Whedon, who I am not really thinking as a top choice, is tied up with Avengers 2 anyways. Spielberg couldn't give a shit, as he isn't even interested in directing action set pieces anymore. Even Abrams, who seems to be one of the only directors that might have a window open for Disney's ambitious 2015 release date, is saying he wouldn't want to do it either. Hell, even Zack Snyder is saying he wouldn't do it. I'm no Snyder hater either, as I enjoyed most of his films that weren't named Sucker Punch (although in all honesty, I enjoyed that one on some levels if you know what I mean). Fincher, Aronofsky, Woo, or Tarantino are either too distinctive or finicky or control freaks to do it. Even if they did, it would be a mess with the auteur director clashing with Disney management style. I was okay with Matthew Vaughn when those rumors where flying around. It appears he is locked up in another project though. Favreau is not a bad choice. Neither is Joe Johnston. Captain America had a nice Indiana Jones and Star Wars vibe to it. Although if Snyder isn't interested, who knows if Johnston or Favreau would touch the dark beast of potential career ruining proportions either? It seems Star Wars might be so big and full of hype, that just about any filmmaker out there will not touch it. At this point we'd be lucky to get someone like Johnston. Or even Andrew Stanton. Peter Jackson? James Cameron? Nope. Cameron is not going to set aside his Avatar universe to do a single Star Wars flick. Same with Jackson and his Hobbit adaptation. He'll be busy with that trilogy until 2014. Besides, I doubt either of these guys would want to deal with the hype of Star Wars. Wachowskis? Or should I say Wachowski Starship? Nope. They have the chops to pull it off, but even if they were interested, I doubt Disney would be. First off, they are a reclusive pair that go by the name Wachowski Starship for Christ's sake. Add to that the fact that Disney might not want to re-launch Star Wars with a directing duo where one half used to be a dude. Family friendly Disney would get their asses handed to themselves on a silver platter by the media and all kinds of nutzos who would get their undies in a twist over Lana. I'm not saying that is right, but just the often times intolerant society we live in. Besides, the Wachowski Starship is supposedly headed for a different sci-fi movie universe called Jupiter Rising. What about Blomkamp? Too gritty and cynical for Star Wars. Plus, if his next film Elysium doesn't light the box office on fire, he might not be someone that Disney would favor. Maybe Duncan Jones, but only if he isn't too busy with that Ian Fleming biopic. Jones might also be a little too cold and cerebral. I could picture him doing an Alien film more than a Star Wars one. It looks like the notion of a TV director, maybe the Clone Wars guy, will end up at the helm of Episode 7.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 11:22 p.m. CST
Prometheus - A L l E N - A L (l) E N S ...the TRUE Alien Trilogy. FACT!!! Haters gonna hate. Just sayin.
by Darth_Kong
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Nov. 9, 2012, 11:22 p.m. CST
Perhaps the directing duo of Neveldine/Taylor (Crank, Gamer) are available?
by lv_426
STAR WARS: The Crank Yanks Back Jason Statham as a Jedi? Afterall, he isn't in Transformers 4 anymore.
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George distracted Mickey with his seemingly down home flannel wearing grandpa persona and performed some serious Chris Nolan style Inception level mind heist magic.
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He's a solid writer, a craftsman. Maybe not the obvious choice, but he's a great choice. The man knows how to write tight, efficient beautiful arcs. Good choice. As for the director, whoever it is, I hope they're as passionate about Star Wars as Arndt is. Someone who really wants to do it, and feels they need to prove they can do it. Everyone mentioned has nothing to prove. Spielberg would phone it in, Terrantino would make a movie that wouldn't fit the main saga (although I agree with what Harry said about having him do his own movie in the SW universe). No one leaps to mind (although Brad Bird would be an excellent choice) so far I'm pretty excited.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 11:26 p.m. CST
I hear Oliver Stone is available. I mean you couldn't do much worse could you? Jedis discover Yoda's LSD stash on Dagobah. Not sure if Disney would go for it though.
by Darth_Kong
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Abram's belongs to Trek now.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 11:30 p.m. CST
i want this star wars balls to the walls. dark and violent....
by Norman Colson
Do not deend of CGI too much of it and we'll be on overload. the fact remains they can use real sets and places to recreate the alien planets it's not fucking hard!!!! Instead of cutting corners with fucking computers every fucking time how bout we go back to the drawing board and be hungry.... That hunger is what drives you to be the bst and be great at things. when your hungry your at the most desperate willing to do anything to win. this guy needs to dig deep. and be authentic. Also I prefer myself if we went back to basics in good ole fashioned storytelling. big on action with a little heart and a few funny moments but seriously can we can the kiddie shit already no more comic relief characters like jar jar binks that was fucking horrible. the empire is supposed to be horrible in ther reign in the universe, lets show it to them full on! pg13 this bitch! I do wanna see old luke skywalker though i heard he turned out to be a badass..
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Nov. 9, 2012, 11:35 p.m. CST
smudgewhat -- your merging of Star Trek and Star Wars is hilarious, but it is Aunt Beru
by lv_426
Picard says: Number 2 you have the bridge Do whatever it is you do I'll be in my ready room banging Aunt Beru
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STAR WARS: Spirit of Vengeance of the Sith. Nic Cage to star as Darth Paycheck.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 11:42 p.m. CST
This project is fraught with risk -- every little choice will be scrutinized by fanboys -- and Disney is
by Brian Hopper
an EXTREMELY risk-averse company. For this reason, I think they go with a known quantity who has proven he can deliver big budget, fx filled, action-oriented and fun movies. The logical choice is Gore Verbinski. The first Pirates in particular has the right sensibility -- fun, light, action-filled, a little edgy, occasionally funny. This tone is what you want for a new Star Wars movie. And he brings a fair amount of cred (at least to me and I think to most observers) because of the excellent Rango. Unless Lone Ranger is some kind of disaster (and I don't think it is... the buzz inside Disney is really good), he'd be good for this. Personally, I'm holding out hope they go with they guy who directed The Empire Strikes Back of Harry Potter movies, Alfonso Cuaron. Plus the buzz on Gravity is incredible. If only.
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Nov. 9, 2012, 11:51 p.m. CST
Which genre do we imagine Spielberg is talking about? Action or sci-fi?
by Jonathan
Spielberg is talking about fantasy. Star Wars is fantasy. Spielberg doesn't do fantasy movies. >_<
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I mean who wants to see a 2 hour exposition on the soothing properties of LeEnsflares? And all that before the story ends with a stupid third act and no resolution. And if it really is a question between Brad Bird and JJ Abrams, why is it even a contest? Brad Bird all the way. JJ Abrams? Are you fucking kidding me? You might as well have Lindelof re-write the script and have Michael Bay and Bret Ratner as 2nd Unit directors and then have Tim Rothman produce the whole ball of wax to make it a professional clusterfuck all the way.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:03 a.m. CST
re "George Lucas just pulled the greatest heist ever. 4 billion."
by Hercules
Yahoo paid Mark Cuban 5.7 billion for Broadcast.com. You tell me who got the better deal -- Disney or Yahoo?
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:09 a.m. CST
And Herc... You could use the same justification for the Transformers franchise...
by Bricklyne
-Sold the most amount of tickets for a toy product to big screen movie. -Have generated upwards of $2 Billion in Box office revenue. Have made more money than any other Transformers related treatment. Aprt from the rotten Tomatoes argument, your logic bsically insinuates that we might as well let Michael Bay direct this new Star Wars franchise. Or maybe any of the directors they've had for the Twilight series. Hey they were wildly successful movies too. Doesn't mean any of them were any good, though.
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You know Episode 7 will make at least $1 billion worldwide box office and maybe a lot more if it's any good. Then think of all the Star Wars toys sold for the next 50 years, posters, knick knacks, etc. Disney is an expert in pimping all their properties to the max. It will be very profitable for them.
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Which is why I'll recommend not discounting the Rotten Tomatoes argument. As a writer-director, JJ outputs quality product, and he is invested in the Star Wars franchise. If he turns it down, know it's because they won't give him control over the script.
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Not much under the feature film belt, but he's worked for Disney plenty of times, can juggle a lot of characters, and "Lost" looked cinematic enough.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:32 a.m. CST
"quality product" -- we don't want a car or shampoo, Herc./
by Hardboiled Wonderland
You just summed up what I don't like about Abrams, his work is too much like slick advertisements. On the flipside, I enjoyed Super 8 a lot -- but was that Spielberg's influence as producer? The movie was all about aping ET and Close Encounters, afterall.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:34 a.m. CST
We want a fun movie that lives up the original trilogy, with characters we like and a story to cheer for.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
We don't want "quality product."
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:34 a.m. CST
Although if Bryan Cranston is in Star Wars 7, I'll be a happy man.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:36 a.m. CST
I love it when people call movies "quality product"
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
because, outside of LOST, most of which JJ DIDNT write/ direct, that's mostly what he puts out him aping Spielberg is no more an -Amblin feel- then a teen princess on American Idol singing Dream On is -an Aerosmith homage
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:38 a.m. CST
Hitchhiker's Guide To the Galaxy. Because Disney is SO good at keeping fidelity with someone else's creations
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
fucking please. go make some cartoons you lazy corporate shills.
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someone literally just said that. sounds like something my Jewish uncle does on buffet night.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:40 a.m. CST
If Abrams gets the gig, will he bring in Orci, Kurtz... and Lindelof?
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:41 a.m. CST
As a Star Wars and Stark Trek (and scifi) fan, one of the joys is seeing different movies by different filmmakers
by Hardboiled Wonderland
If everything we love is made by the same fucking people, then it gets very homogenous and boring and uninspiring. Star Wars needs someone new, someone willing to make STAR WARS and not the same as their other movies.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:43 a.m. CST
lol AICN must be paying well if Herc has "quality product" on his mind! :P
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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will witness how he is going to fuck it up and what a terrible hack he really is.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:44 a.m. CST
Imagine how sad my Bluray collection will look -- Star Trek (by Abrams), Star Wars (by Abrams), James Bond (by Abrams), Harry Potter (by Abrams)...
by Hardboiled Wonderland
... please, for the love of my Bluray collection, give us variety and someone new!!
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:46 a.m. CST
Meh, it's out of our hands, doesn't matter one iota what we post in talkbacks. Disney and Lucas have already decided. Until they spill the beans, it's just AICN racking up site hits. ;)
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:47 a.m. CST
Herc - 5.7 Billion right? What is that in 1999 dollars today? I gotta go with Disney but it depends on how vicious their entertainment lawyers are on their newly acquired intellectual property...
by Darth_Kong
I'll give you an example. The genius of Lucasfilm Limited is in their legal dept. If I remember correctly it was a Classified Air Force program, Black Ops, that made a patch with an X-wing fighter on it for the pilots, and probably engineers, ground crew, etc. and the lawyers at Lucasfilm sent, I believe to the Air Force a CEASE AND DESIST ORDER for the patch. They had to change it. The United States Air Force had to bend to the will of George Lucas. No one gets out from under the IRON FIST of Lucasfilm. Disney is no different. Disney has to take the same approach with their new property. And they will. They'll probably make better films than George's prequels and the Disney Studio Store on the Burbank Lot will soon be filled floor to ceiling with Star Wars merchandise. I actually think people will line up for the Disney Star Wars movies like lemmings marching to the sea. Yeah I gotta go with Disney but it's because they'll work on this like the Manhattan Project to get a return on their investment. Can't blame them. But I gotta say it looks like George was sick of this universe and has washed his hands of it. Did he even leave any part of it to his children? I don't know if he sold the property outright but I do know those prequels are god-awful and he got out while the getting was good which was smart on his part. He trashed the original trilogy which were gems. The gold lost it's luster. Disney will probably restore some of that with it's magic wand.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:50 a.m. CST
Cauron, Blomkamp, Bird = my picks. Abrams is weak sauce.
by juice willis
That's my fucking word.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:51 a.m. CST
Abrams is directing the Indiana Jones reboot, starring Christopher Pine.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
May as well throw some bullshit out there.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:53 a.m. CST
Herc, I don't think Spielberg is dodging it due to the treatment...
by bigbaldpapa
He is dodging it due to Star Wars fanboys. Whoever takes on Ep7 and beyond is going to have to want to put up with the whiniest fan base on the planet.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:59 a.m. CST
Disney paid $4billion for the goodwill from mainly two movies
by tomdolan04
to a guy who hasnt directed or written anything of creative value in 20years - yet Lucas still seems to be calling all the creative shots about who / where its headed to even POST sale with it also being based around his guidelines?!? <p> Yodas doing shitty Vodaphone adverts at the moment for christ sakes. The quiet wistful beauty of staring at twin suns seems far, far away.
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His wrapping his current movie anytime now, which I don't think would take much post-production time. I'm not gonna bother finding anymore names. He was directly involved in the original trilogy, he knows the universe inside out. And he has turned out to be respectable director. Though not all his work were great, he got all the experience: Honey I Shrunk The Kids, Rocketeer, Jumanji, October Sky, Jurassic Park III, Captain America: The First Avenger, to name a few. And again he spent 7 years of his early career working on three Star Wars films. He worked with Kathleen Kennedy before, and he's surely a Star Wars fan. So I'm crossing everyone including Brad Bird, JJ Abrams, etc, out of the list. Let's just wait for the announcement in a few weeks.
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I didn't say YouTube. I said Broadcast.com. Broadcast.com's value in 1999: $5.7 billion. Broadcast.com's vaule today: $0. AltaVista.com is worth more. Let me help out here. Disney got the better deal.
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I haven't seen Ridley Scott mentioned in any of these talkbacks as a possible director. Is it because of the Prometheus hate? Too old? I think he'd be brilliant for Star Wars.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 1:14 a.m. CST
We need an article here showing the promo pic of Tom Cruise in All You Need Is Kill...i swear the talkbacker traffic will rival that of any Star Wars collumn in the last week
by Sean
People will lose their shit...and probably not in a good way.
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Part of what makes the original trilogy so powerful is the sense you get of an enormous world, teeming with life and history; every incidental character--every of technology even--seemed like it had a story behind it waiting to be told. They were all the more effective in this because they only gave you glimpses of that larger expanse; you had to construct it in your imagination, and this unconscious participation made the fantasy convincing. This defining feature of the originals went missing in the prequels because CGI gave the Lucas the power to put on screen whatever he could think of. Our imaginations had nothing to do, and so in addition to the plotting, acting, etc. more than anything they were boring. Whoever directs the next one has to have a track record of creating believable worlds after the model of the originals. Favreau, Abrams, Whedon, and Fincher are great, but this is not one of their talents. I think the best choice would be Del Toro or Jackson, followed by Cameron.
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Anne Hathaway is fugly, "The Hangover" is funnier than "Knocked Up" and J.J. Abrams is a hack. Do carry on.
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He couldnt steal scenes from old movies and use them in a Star Wars film, he is quite good at that I like Tarantinos movies, I think most of them are awesome but that made him sound like a douchebag
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every piece* of technology
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Spielberg is dodging the fanboys, not the treatment.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 1:18 a.m. CST
Herc come on don't be that way. I don't want you to be unhappy. I like the Star Wars movies. Really. We can play lightsabers sometime.
by Darth_Kong
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...not that he doesn't have talent, but I think he would be completely wrong for Star Wars. I thought he was wrong for Star Trek, and I didn't care for that film at all. Pretty special effects no doubt, but terrible plot and characterization.
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Great, it will be about Han, leia, luke and chewie's 10 year old kids.
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But are you also a Return of the Jedi hater? It may not as much "sharp humor" as Empire, but certainly more heart and catharsis than any Star Wars film of the trilogy.
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Both were more awesome than you.
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Anne Hathaway is smoking hot, have you people not seen Havoc? Knocked up is funnier than The Hangover I love Star Wars, never liked Star Trek, never watched more than a couple minutes of any Star Trek episode or movie, until JJ Abrams 2009 film which I thought was awesome. He isnt a hack, he is the director i feel most comfortable with because theres no way he would let another Phantom Menace be made LOST was awesome at least the first 4-5 seasons and if you disagree just remember that Im right and youre wrong its that simple =P
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Nov. 10, 2012, 1:39 a.m. CST
Yeah, Lens Flare & Shaky camera in every scene does not equal quality work.
by MajorFrontbum
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Yeah the plot was terrible because William Shatner sexing up of aliens was far cooler than the characters fighting with swords on an aerial platform
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Nov. 10, 2012, 1:42 a.m. CST
I love ROTJ, but when you think about it, it is pretty lazy. I mean, t's the Death Star, again, and they stop it almost the exact same way.
by JediRob
If they tried that in a movie today, doing the same stuff, it would get ripped apart. Like Hangover 2 or something.
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Most of the humor in ESB is Han & Leia's barbs at each other. It's all well written, sassy stuff but what's always kind of bugged me about their relationship is how pointless it is to the overall saga. GL dropped the "love triangle" aspect almost immediately when he split them up 30 min into EMPIRE and then later made Leia the sister. So what's the point of those two? It's entertaining to watch but it contributes nothing of consequence to the overall story.
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Do carry on.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 1:53 a.m. CST
Those saying they want a Tarantino Star Wars are just being childish or..
by Golden_Ux
...don't care about SW films at all. What a stupid idea and to think Disney would have their name attached to an R-rated version anyway! I know little about Arndt save for Toy Story 3 which is my favourite animated movie of all time. That film had a lot of heart, something which was seriously lacking from the prequels. Spielberg not directing is a shame but like what has already been said on here it's too much of a commitment in the twilight of his career. I'm over the moon for more Star Wars but I still struggling with the idea of a further trilogy post RotJ. The story arc was wrapped up perfectly and this could make Anakins/Vaders and Luke's battle against Palpatine have a lot less meaning if they reintroduce Sith. Now back stories (Yoda, golden age of the republic, sith wars etc) or side stories (bounty hunters) I would be cool with.
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OK. What do you call Always or Hook? dildo.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 1:56 a.m. CST
Since Spielberg was "lucasified" for Indiana Jones 4 it's as well he doesn't direct episode 7...
by BEHEM Pascal
...and Abrams' Star Trek is proof he understands Star Wars!
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TB Highlights: "George Lucas is involved in the storyline? Great, it will be about Han, leia, luke and chewie's 10 year old kids" -manofstraw "If they want more SW like the prequel disasters, then Abrams would be their man. He has pissed all over STAR TREK and his devil's rain would fit right in with GL's rethink of his own 'verse." - trevanian I don't know why I let myself get excited. I will be fucking shocked if anything like the originals comes out of this. (ROTJ = best star wars)
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Nov. 10, 2012, 2 a.m. CST
supersoldier being gay does not rule you out of writing good screen plays
by migmog
I think you should really research his lecture on SW IV like I said before a real fan. Something that I didn't feel, for comparison, Singer was of Superman particularly. I felt that Singer was drawn to a Superman film but I don't think he grasped it. In contrast Arndt has a fans eye perspective on these characters and will draw comparison with Avengers where the screen play demonstrated that they 'got' the Marvel characters. Arndt's sexuality will not be an issue here. For instance Rock Hudson is no lesser person or actor for being gay. On Superman Returns I blame WB for shoe horning Singer into their film and it was a perfect demonstration of how WB/ DC continue to mismanage their properties. Singer should have made x-3 period This property is in good hands
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Nov. 10, 2012, 2:02 a.m. CST
Tarantino's SW = The Saga of 'Jules' Windu. Imagine having Sam Jackson coming back to play Mace's grandson, but with more swearing.
by CodeName
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Return of the jedi is great. But if you think it is better than empire, you must be 10 years old, or the mind of a child.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 2:06 a.m. CST
Lets get in a British director Sam Mendes he's done a great job with Skyfall
by Torben
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Nov. 10, 2012, 2:25 a.m. CST
Badash who would you suggest ? I don't see your choice just throwing the insults coward
by Torben
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The Geekneck phenomenon: a convenient way of looking at the world for the unwashed, uneducated etc to selectively look at life. I wonder how many ignored C3PO's demeanour as dismissed it simply as 'British'. The gay assistant has become an archetype (Entourage anyone?) The same movement would probably be ok with Luke and Leia shagging because it probably happens in their social circles. Star Wars is an iconic moment in time because in part there is a character(s) that each demographic can latch on to. Black people finally got a great character that didn't die before the end of the movie. I do not know if it was deliberate but no-one is arguing with the result I was a kid in 77 I love Star Wars, but it does not just belong to me and my generation it belongs to all of us and the generations to come. If my kid grows up to be gay I will love him just the same and my hope is that cinema and culture will support him. I hope something as great as SW does not exclude him We live in a different world from the 60's and 70's (thank goodness) Hopefully the Geekneck will fail to breed due to fatally bad social skills I can't wait until 2015
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Is a GREAT director. He is a maturing talent and anyone who has seen Argo will testify I would put him there with Brad Bird as the stand out 2 right now
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Nov. 10, 2012, 2:39 a.m. CST
Is it just me or is the AICN talkback crowd now wishing Lucas himself was writing/directing?
by Bedhead7
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IV and V are generally considered to be the best in the series and it was only the last act of Empire which had the family reveal. Possibly the greatest plot twist in movie history, but it changed the emphasis of the overall story of SW ever since. Bring back the original stars if you want, but lets return to stories of friendship, high adveture and fantasy. Lets lose the DALLAS-like family saga. I don't need to see the Solo kids. Actually, I'd prefer if Han fucked up his relationship with Leia and took off. Leia could be leader of Alderaan refugees trying to find a new home (perhaps a bit too BSG I know). A REUNITING of the original characters after decades apart is much more interesting. If they lived happily ever after part VI then there is no point continuing the series. Also strong entirely new characters are a must for this to work.
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Nice job on the Picard to Riker dialogue! Also, Princess Leia gets a strap on and goes warp speed on Bones' bones. Bones gets a boner during, which is cleaned off by Admiral Ackbar (freaky lizard fucker gets covered in sauce). Lando has a gangbang with Seven of (Sixty-)Nine, Major Kira, Dax 1 & 2 (Dax one is from an alternate timeline), Greedo gets his speedo on with Diana Muldur from 1968 and everybody dies with a huge fucking smile on their face. Also, Darth becomes a Borg and Picard hits on but fails to score with one of the cantina sax players. Picard just cannot get laid.
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"The Empire Strikes Back" is my favorite movie of all time. "Return of the Jedi" was one of the most disappointing experiences of my young life.
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Can anyone explain how he delivered a top 10 film of all time? Blind luck? Stars aligned? That movie should not exist. There is no rational explanation for how good empire turned out. I think it's all vfx and score honestly.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 3:03 a.m. CST
Do we really want the same guy Directing Trek AND Wars?
by MajorFrontbum
That's a little too much.
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The force is the gay inside of every living breathing thing. Midichlorians = AIDS. So when they count midichlorians they are actually counting T-cells.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 3:27 a.m. CST
Give it to JJ (and, yes, he is a hack) so I won't be bothered.
by justmyluck
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:06 a.m. CST
"I hope it goes to J.J. Abrams" Me too. The job should be his and nobody else. And he should do to SW what he did to ST.
by albert comin
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:07 a.m. CST
@Mr bedhead7, there is one rational explanatiopn for why ESB is so good: Lucas was behind it all.
by albert comin
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There is a rational explanation: he had an excellent screenplay to work from. I've always thought he was more or less hired because Lucas trusted him to just shoot the script and not make a lot of waves. Lucas knew Kershner could work with actors. He'd been taught by him in college. Kasdan delivered. All Kersh had to do was shoot the script as written, lossen the actors up when need be, and not go insanely over schedule and budget.
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Spielberg and Tarantino are obviously going to turn it down. So why offer it to them so publicly? I feel like it just hurts the situation.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:37 a.m. CST
@Mr hercules, box office numbers and tickets sold only show how many people watched it, not their opinion of the movie.
by albert comin
How often you bought a ticket to watch a movie you ended up not liking, hem? If you want to defend JJ Abrams and his ST movie by all means do, but use some logical arguments please.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:45 a.m. CST
@Mr trevanian, actually, the explosion at the MI6 in Skyfall is CGI.
by albert comin
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Ign.com have quotes from him, he isnt interested or wants to do it, he would rather just go see the new movies. Dont get the trek hate, the only bad thing about the reboot was simon talentless fanboy twat pegg!
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Nov. 10, 2012, 5:15 a.m. CST
Abrams has to do it. Abrams is just paying coy, but deep down, he's burning to make a SW movie.
by albert comin
What are his ST movies if not his burning desire to make SW movies. Only at the time SW was not available, but now it is. Abrams is a major Sw geek boy and he's aching for making SW movies. He should step out of ST and allow somebody else with more interest in that franchise lead it, and he bring his game to SW and he should do to SW what he did to ST. Everybody would win.
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Just kidding! would love to see brad bird, duncan jones or blomkamp...
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He can do an episode or two of the TV series, but don't touch the movies!
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/10/abrams-favreau-on-star-wars-episode-vii-rumors
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Would be a nice left-field choice if Iron Man 3 lives up to its trailer.
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Come on, nobody's suggested this?
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Nov. 10, 2012, 5:46 a.m. CST
Give the job to Frank Oz. Only Yoda could direct a decent SW picture
by Gorgomel
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that was Jan de Bont...
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on time in Little Miss Sunshine was more exciting and thrilling than anything in all 3 prequels. That isn't snark.
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Conservatives are the prequel lovers. Liberals hate them.
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Please confirm that Avatar is still on schedule for 2015. If it is not, please ask James Cameron to direct. He would likely turn it down anyway, but please go through the motions, just to be sure. In the event that he is not available, and in consideration of the names who have already taken themselves out of the running publicly, I would trust any of these directors for Episode 7: -Robert Zemekis -Martin Scorsese -Paul Verhoeven -Brad Bird -John Favreau -Kathryn Bigelow -John McTiernan Speilberg would have been ideal and Whedon would have done great too. Perhaps they are available for the next one. Also, if JJ Abrams is going to be involved, please ban him from using his shaky cam and lens flare techniques. But hopefully it won't come to that. Thank you for your time.
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or one of the Mexicans to get film geeks hard for this and they need to do it soon. No Ron Howard or Brad Bird. Need some darkness in this trilogy. That old Empire magic needs to find it's way back into the franchise.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 6:55 a.m. CST
I don't care who writes the thing, so long as the movie opens with an alcoholic old bastard called Han "Fuck You" Solo raping a Jawa in the back room of the cantina.
by Bradly Durant
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Come on guys, the movies are just an excuse to make shitloads of money with less effort. Because everyone wants to see it anyway, no matter what shit is on the screen,. And they know that
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Nov. 10, 2012, 6:58 a.m. CST
Supersoldier saying that all gays have a woe is me gay agenda...
by Amfpsych
Is like saying that all guys who call themselves supersoldier are latently gay and thus need to stereotype and gay bash to feel less inner turmoil about their true desire to give head - when actually it's just you.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 6:59 a.m. CST
But Solo keeps on shafting at the tiny dusty, dirty sack creature...
by Bradly Durant
Cries of the little creature are heard throughout the bar, Princess Leia shuffles through to the back room to see her ex husband at it with the unfortunate monster. "Oh Han, not again."
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could work, or Fincher. Finchers got nothing to do anyway!
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Nov. 10, 2012, 7:04 a.m. CST
Did you notice a sign out in front of my house that said "Dead Wookie Storage"?
by Cosmik
Tarentino Star Wars would make a good SNL skit.
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Especially if you think Willow and the Neverending Story have are better remembered than LOTR, Or that the latter wasn't crafted by human hands that care.
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Herc, Could you tell us (or just me) about your experience seeing Return of the Jedi as a kid? For me (born in the '80s) I first saw it in theaters when they rereleased it in the mid-90's. At that time it was one big awesome lump. Since then I find the first half on Tatooine riveting (ideally no awful added musical number), but the ewoks parts of it in the second half and why the cast is on Endor VI rather than a really proficient squad just really grates on me. What is it that let you down?
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Liberals like the prequels. Conservatives think Lucas was referencing Bush with the "You're my enemy" line in ROTS and bashed him for it.
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It's like you people have no idea what makes a good Star Wars movie.
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with weird shady tactics like buying all the land around the Dreamworks campus and shit like that? Would Spielberg (director of a shit ton of sci-fi and adventure movies) really work for them?
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Nov. 10, 2012, 7:47 a.m. CST
Spielberg doesn't want to be forced to put Han Solo into a refrigerator
by Stan Gable
I suspect after the beating he took on Indy 4 he is done with anything having Lucas' name attached to it.
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Please if there IS a God, we don't want ANY Gungan's, Ewoks or whiny fucking kids. Oh, and don't bring back ANY of the old cast. They are all ancient now and would just look as cheesy as Hell.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 8:01 a.m. CST
Seen Tarantino's Star Wars - the one with the action figures - back when I first dialled into the web..
by LeonardsBellbottoms
..in 1997 about the same time I stumbled onto this site. Long before Youtube, but it's there if you want a giggle.. thanks Evan Mather..nice job!
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I would probably go with one of the following... David Fincher John Hillcoat Rian Johnson Alfonso Cuarón David Yates
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Nov. 10, 2012, 8:05 a.m. CST
Brad Bird can write rings around JJ. Abrams can't plot his way out of a paper bag.
by Buck_Futt
Abrams is very solid with characterization and action, but "Star Trek" is a story mess on a par with (if not worse than) "Phantom Menace." And no, I don't give a shit what Rotten Tomatoes says, or what the box office was. That movie was all sizzle and no steak.
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He did a nice job wrapping up the Potter series I thought. But does he have the balls to stand up to George and shoot down his terrible ideas? That's the question. Even Spielberg has trouble saying no to George which is how we wound up watching Indy run around chasing after a silly plastic skull instead of an interesting religious artifact.
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Why not?
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Nov. 10, 2012, 8:34 a.m. CST
hack [noun] - a person, as an artist or writer, who exploits, for money, his or her
by Brian Hopper
creative ability or training in the production of dull, unimaginative, and trite work; one who produces banal and mediocre work in the hope of gaining commercial success in the arts. This is basically a perfect description of JJ Abrams.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 8:37 a.m. CST
Give me a Tarintino space opera trying to out sleaze Starcrash right now.
by UltraTron
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Nov. 10, 2012, 8:40 a.m. CST
Whedon would be a good choice. Firefly was essentially 'The Han Solo Adventures'...
by biscuithead
...in fact I bet that's how he pitched it to Fox...
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Nov. 10, 2012, 8:40 a.m. CST
The lizard. He regenerates and would make a formidable warrior. Make him a sidekick. Someone who can rip heads off.
by UltraTron
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One (and only one) of the reasons the original trilogy worked better than the prequels was that Luke, Leia, Han and Lando fairly well equated people their age of the 1970s and early 1980s. With the second trilogy, Jedi acted like Jedi, Queens were Queenly. Natalie played a sci-fi space princess with no connection to a modern American woman. Hayden, a Canadian (which I call a Nice American) had a weird role. As the only bona fide Americans in the cast, Jake was over his head and Sam disappeared into a lordly, ultimately unlikable character. Ewen and Liam are a couple of my favorite actors, but they brought the whole Shakespeare on toast thing to it. We need some sort of wise ass rolling his eyes and saying things like, "I don't believe this crap."
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Yep, keep up with the unimaginative, completely uninformed, naive and choices for directors. The last director to actually listen to fans recently was Michael Bay. Be warned...
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Nov. 10, 2012, 8:58 a.m. CST
Herc, why are you arguing with stupid people that don't have opinions of their own?
by Chris
Most of these people direct their hatred toward Spielberg, Lucas, Abrams, not for legitimate reasons, but because it sets them apart from everyone else. If they say they loved the new Star Trek or they're looking forward to a new Star Wars they wouldn't look cool, they'd just be part of the crowd, but to disagree? Well that will set them apart, it will get them attention, it will give you and I and everyone else an excuse to talk to these stupid people... We give them purpose.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 9:02 a.m. CST
Herc allow me to say something positive. I think they gave a hint of where the new movies will go. They said Star Wars are family films. The story may follow one of Han and Leia's children...
by Darth_Kong
Actually the failure of Lucas' prequels may be a blessing in disguise. One of Han and Leia's children are force sensitive and their journey is to re-establish the Jedi Order from the ashes of Palpatine. That would from a story stand-point seem like a logical direction considering Disney prides itself at being a family film company. Which might be a good thing. The stories that could be told from the point of view of just one of Han and Leia's children who are FORCE sensitive is kind of a cool idea and how they have to start from scratch to find new Jedi's. See what I'm saying? The possibilities are endless. Disney can literally start with a BLANK SLATE. That's what I would do. Which means all the post Jedi books and comics are exactly what you think they are, alternate expanded universe stories. I don't think Disney will take them seriously. The prequels could literally be ignored. Hopefully the stories are high calibre. What I would cringe at though is another Luke Leia twin story. I would follow just one of their children. That could be pretty neat. One thing I wish Disney would do though is try to salvage all the GEORGE-CORNINESS of the original trilogy. Fix some of the HAMMY moments and re-release the original trilogy and let the fans forget about the prequels.
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To borrow from a fellow poster. "Bigotry does not exist in this dojo."
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Brad Bird for Star Wars!!!
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Nov. 10, 2012, 9:11 a.m. CST
Brad Bird or no one, I won't see it if Abrams directs SW
by Just_Some_Guy
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They're just mad that those 'homos' are more successful than they ever hope to be...
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The lens flare thing is a bit over done. Now it's almost as though he does it because everyone says he does it... I watched Super 8 for the first time on NETFLIX recently and I wondered, "Where are these lens flares coming from?" They appear everywhere, in scenes with not lighting to produce them. It's like he digitally inserted lens flares into scenes.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 9:16 a.m. CST
Tarantino's a totally inappropriate director, so this is cool news.
by in6087
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Nov. 10, 2012, 9:17 a.m. CST
Definition of 'stupid people': People who use Spielberg, Lucas and Abrams in
by Brian Hopper
the same sentence, as if to imply an equivalent stature, as in 'Most of these people direct their hatred toward Spielberg, Lucas, Abrams, not for legitimate reasons, but because it sets them apart from everyone else.' George Lucas and Steven Spielberg, each in his own way a cinematic genius, will figure prominently in film history texts 500 years from now. JJ Abrams, a self-promoting wretch who couldn't direct his way out of a paper bag, will be forgotten.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 9:18 a.m. CST
BTW if I had to choose between Abrams and Gore Verbinski I would choose Verbiski. Hands down. Abrams is too much of a HYPE-SENSATIONALIST for my tastes.
by Darth_Kong
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Sad but true.
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My god people, he would be perfect for the job. District 9 is one of the greatest movie of the last 10 years.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 9:37 a.m. CST
ultratron -- Tarantino's space flick I would be closer to Firefly/Serenity than Star Wars, a Spaghetti Raygun if you will
by lv_426
Yes, I know that Joss Whedon was inspired by Star Wars and mainly The Millenium Falcon and Han Solo dashing rogue angle when he created Firefly. I think Tarantino playing in that space western/space crime story sandbox with an R-rating would be amazing to see. It would be almost as if some of the old lurid sci-fi paperback covers from the 70's and early 80's coming to life with Tarantino's love of long dialogues and shady characters.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 9:42 a.m. CST
also, com' on guys, stop mentioning the same old overrated directors......
by Darth_Kaos
Fincher (just wrong, he's hit or miss) Nolan (boring, can't edit, can't do action and he's a pompous prick) Bird (I like him, but he just started directing real actors) Whedon (he did good with The Avengers,but I have a feeling he's starting to believe his own hype and return to the mediocre director he truly is) Again, Neill Blomkamp would be perfect, but going with an unknown director that fits the bill would work to.
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Cuaron.
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Other real possibilities: Joseph Kosinski Gary Ross
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I mean as a serious choice. Not because you nerds hate him with every fibre of your being, but because he makes big, effects driven, PG blockbusters that make tons of money. He's also part of that crowd, and even interned at ILM when he first started. We all hate him, but he should be considered as a serious option. At least by Disney. A Mikey Bay Star Wars? I bet your all jizzing your pants thinking about it as I speak. lol So dumb, flashy, purile, racist stereotypes, but damn fine looking. Actually sounds like most of the SW canon. Should be a perfect fit.
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We need to add Scorsese and Cameron and Del Toro too!
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John Carpenter sort of already made his Star Wars when he did Big Trouble In Little China. Jack Burton = Han Solo The Pork Chop Express = The Millenium Falcon Wang Chi and his martial arts skills = Luke Skywalker and The Force (Chi = Force?) Gracie Law = Leia's spunky personality Miao Yin = Leia's regal princess personality Egg Shen = Yoda David Lo Pan = Darth Vader + Emperor Palpatine Three Storms Henchmen = Sith-like mini-bosses Both films use the *trapped in the castle of the enemy* plot as Jack, Wang, and the others try to escape the underground complex of the Wing Kong Exchange. The hero team later regroups and then mounts an assault on the enemy's stronghold. Although the ending is a bit different, the Han/Jack character ends up back on The Millenium Falcon/Pork Chop Express with a big hairy creature along for the ride. The difference being that Chewie is an ally, while that Yeti thing at the end of Big Trouble is most likely hostile towards Jack Burton. Although, who knows, maybe Jack and the Yeti become buddies in the sequel-that-never-was?
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just to see the amount of irrational, douchey fanboy rage on this site...bunch of losers who have done jack shit in the film industry shit talking guys who are being considered to direct Star Wars...all of you acting like you're an authority on filmmaking, all I see here are a bunch of high school zeros at worst and filmschool failures at best...you all WISH you had 1% of the talent that J.J. Abrams has...but no, continue to rip this famous successful director anonymously on the internet... and no I don't want to suck J.J.'s dick (that question being one of the more intelligent retorts I'd expect in this internet village of malcontents)
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Well i don't get it... Kathy Kennedy one of his partners is now head of Lucasfilm and exec. Producer, is no secret tha he is a HUGE fan of the saga, he was nthe number one choice to do Return of Jedi and he was going to the problem was the DGA not let him directing just because some stupid rule of the credits.. But now he could finnaly do it and it's not he's GENRE????? Oh c'mon he loves sci fi fantasy... DON't GET IT
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It'd be sort of glorious.
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Star Wars needs MYTH and GRANDEUR not slickness and clever editing.
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Right now i think the director's should or could be ep7 - Joe Johnston ep8 - Brad Bird Ep9 - David Fincher
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I'm glad they nabbed a decent screenwriter.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:21 a.m. CST
Who in their right mind thought Tarratino would be the right pick to direct a Star Wars movie???
by acroyear
Whatever you say about him being a 'great director', I don't see him capable of directing a space opera, let alone Star Wars.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:25 a.m. CST
Correction: If you didn't think Abrams pissed on Star Trek, you are certifiably an idiot
by gruntybear
If Abrams is in any way involved with the new Stars Wars trilogy, there's no way I will EVER see it. No fucking way. Just like I won't be seeing Abrams' Star Trek Wars II.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:27 a.m. CST
hercules -- I see where you're going, but a heist (at least in cinematic terms) implies planning, con artistry, and maybe a little seduction
by lv_426
In the case of Cuban, he must have jumped out of the bushes and said: *BOO! I've got a GUN! Give me all ya got suckers!* Highway robbery versus a slick heist. *Disney got the better deal.* You're right about that though? WTF is Broadcast.com?
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The screen would be filled with Jedi garbage goodness.
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Keep your distance until you see how Disney does with EP7-9 and then junp on the band wagon if its a hit, it sit back and say "I told you so" if its a disaster. Director know there are other opporunities to do a SW movie if it works.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:30 a.m. CST
Tarantino should be the one talking about not been his genre for G sakes
by fabian santos
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I'm really frustrated cause Spielberg is my fav director but my fav movie is TESB...
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He wrote the treatment, and whoever directs will be beholden to him as well. Count Dooku on it!
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:35 a.m. CST
taylor_kitschs_rectal_leprosy -- Tom Cruise in All You Need Is Kill...? I'm not sure if I like it or not. Need more info and pics and a trailer...
by lv_426
http://www.shockya.com/news/wp-content/uploads/tom-cruise-all-you-need-is-a-kill.jpg
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST
Abrams sorta kinda says no. "I am looking forward more then anyone to the next iterations of Star Wars, but I believe I will be going as a paying moviegoer!"
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
http://www.411mania.com/movies/news/262339/%5BMovies%5D-JJ-Abrams-and-Jon-Favreau-Are-Asked-About-Directing-Star-Wars:-Episode-VII.htm
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:39 a.m. CST
It shouldn't be anyone who has done a special effects movie. Let ILM handle that.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:41 a.m. CST
Most importantly, what's John Williams got to say?
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:44 a.m. CST
Boring talkback now, too long but expect another the same tomorrow..anyways:
by LeonardsBellbottoms
If the rights and the SW universe get opened up as it would seem Lucas is hoping, all the above directors/screenwriters will get a shot at a movie in the StarWars universe. My wish would be that they drop the 'episodes' and make each new movie a 'standalone' similar to the James Bond model.. Cheers, see you back here tomorrow
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I hated Jurassic park3 and loved Captain America, October sky was a pretty solid movie too and rocketeer was good fun!!!! Joe knows this caracters for so long working in the art department of SW i think he deserve a shot
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They had a large scale sense of fun with a large group of characters and lots of practical and digital effects. Yes, he'd be a good match.
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There, how's that! =P
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Until theres a solid story and a first script draft or taster, no decent directors will look at, so i think it maybe a while till we even get a front runner list. I think alot will pass on it as its a huge pressure since it could either solidify or kill a career. The huge backlash about the prequels shows that, especially since they were good films, people just expected the second coming or the answer to the meaning of life. My choice would be joe johnston and he should gett Fett to return.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:53 a.m. CST
Correct, gruntybear JJ was not a Trek fan, but a Star Wars fan. I don't think he needs his paws on either franchise. Relegate him to his own concoctions.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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That's all.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:56 a.m. CST
Would we want Spielberg, Tarantino or Snyder Directing one of these?!?
by TDH1138
Yes, No and DEFINITELY NOT. Chances are, Spielberg has seen the 40 page treatment, but to assume that him saying he's not touching it because it's bad is moronic. It could be for the following reasons: 1. Spielberg has gone beyond wanting to direct a SW film. Remember, his dream was to direct a Bond film way back when too and that seems to have fallen out of favor with him. 2. He's got something else in the pipeline for the next 2 years. 3. He's already helped them sign a director to the first film. Probably Favreau. I half expect to hear this announced by Thanksgiving, but Christmas at the latest as shooting on a film like this should start in the Spring to make a 2015 release. 4. Because he's going to direct the last part of the new Trilogy to close out the storyline. As for Tarantino, FUCK HIM. He comes off as a giant elitist douchenozzle in this quote. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE his films, but this is Star Wars and he could have gone the high road by simply saying it's not his genre and it should be in the hands of someone more suited for the type of film it is. Besides, anything other then a Boba Fett film (which will happen and it will be made, at least the first one, by Joe Johnston), I wouldn't want Tarantino near Star Wars. Snyder is great at adapting things, 300, Watchmen, his remake of Dawn of the Dead is great, but while Sucker Punch looked beautiful, it was just one big film of Game footage put together. Entertaining, but more for the eye candy. Do I hope Man of Steel changes that? Yes. But he's wrong for Star Wars. If I was a betting man, the directing chores will go this way: Ep7: Favreau Ep8: Bird, Fincher or Cuaron Ep9: Spielberg
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Some of these directors are probably saying 'no thanks' simply because they know there's no chance of them being asked.
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. . . LOOOONNGGGG 3 years . . .
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. . . Docter or Stanton, please. If Bird is officially out, that is . . .
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Nov. 10, 2012, 11:12 a.m. CST
For Episode VII... the most logical potential choices seem to be
by lv_426
Favreau, Johnston, Kosinski, or Verbinski. Episode VIII is a ways off then, so things could get interesting for that one. Unless Disney keeps the same director from Episode VII, maybe Cuaron or a big name for Episode VIII. Possibly Stanton for Episode VIII, if he is out of director jail by then. Although, the farther along they get, will the big name directors (Ridley Scott, Nolan, Aronofsky) want to follow a Favreau or Verbinski Star Wars film for say Episodes VIII or IX? Add to that the Disney corporate machine to deal with as well. I think Whedon is a possibility, but maybe for Episode VIII, although more probably for Episode IX if he isn't burnt out on big budget filmmaking from the Avengers sequel(s). Brad Bird could also be freed up by the time Episode VIII or IX are ready to look for a director.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 11:12 a.m. CST
Hey tdh1138 really liked what you wrote, makes a lot of sense...
by fabian santos
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Nov. 10, 2012, 11:12 a.m. CST
Hey tdh1138 really liked what you wrote, makes a lot of sense...
by fabian santos
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Nov. 10, 2012, 11:17 a.m. CST
7-9 are the last GL treatments, so make them match up to 1-6. After that, ANYTHING GOES. John Waters with a rock soundtrack is OK after that.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 11:19 a.m. CST
7-9 are the last Episodes. Didn't you hear what Lucas and Kennedy they said? After that it IS different standalones, spinoffs, etc.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Duncan Jones isn't getting much of a shout on here, he's the best young Sci-fi director out there and is just waiting for a real BIG break(if not starwars then definitely the next alien). Whoever it was that said Lars Von Trier, hahaha that would be fucking genius, id pay to see it any day of the week(David Lynch hasn't made a movie for a while either?) Please not bastarding JJ Abrahams, he's just not capable of making great films just consistently moderately good ones.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 11:20 a.m. CST
Tarantino's quote was appropriate. Any film fan will not want to see the DISNEY Star Wars. If this is secretly the LUCAS Star Wars, then fine.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Although, the real insanity will be if they do something like a Knights of the Old Republic type of trilogy after Episodes 7-9. I think that is when we will see what a lot of us are looking for. Star Wars growing into something much more daring and unique. I know the Extended Universe stuff isn't going to be treated as canon, but that doesn't mean they can't take inspiration from Star Wars EU stuff like The Old Republic for instance. I could see filmmakers like Aronofsky, Woo, Fincher, Cuaron, Del Toro, Sir Ridley, etc. feeling less constricted by having to make Star Wars films that can go toe to toe with the original trilogy. So we can at best expect some really safe choices for this 7-9 sequel trilogy. The wilder choices like Fincher or Nolan might not be a possibility now, but I wouldn't count them out completely for whatever comes after this sequel trilogy for the Star Wars saga.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 11:22 a.m. CST
Finally, did you hear Lucas say, I'm the keeper of the torch, just like on the first trilogy... Hahahaha Lucas haters. He's a huge shareholder in Disney.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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I'm not gay but people here bashing the new writer for being gay is offensive. Some of the greatest writers in Hollywood are gay. I am happy for Michael Arndt landing the writing gig and wish him the best. As for directors, it's fun to speculate and throw big names around. Nicholas Meyer is not a sci-fi guy and gave us the brilliant Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan. Irvin Kershner gave us the best sequel to a Star Wars movie one could have ever imagined. If Brad Bird, Ron Howard, Andrew Stanton or a handful of other directors close to Disney land the job GREAT. I am just happy that I care about Star Wars passionately again. After a decade of bitter griping I now look at the franchise with excitement again. My love and admiration for George Lucas and Lucasfilm are restored and I feel like a kid again. Thanks George, thanks Disney, and here's hoping I leave that theater in 2015 with the same excitement I had when the credits rolled in 1978 at my four year old experience at seeing STAR WARS in the drive-in. One of the most cherished moments in my entire life.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST
2nd Death Star lazy? Fuck that! I hope the next trilogy has 10 Death Stars. We didn't stop after 1 nuke.
by JackSlater4
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Obvious choice, shit, just call him already but smith or favreau get the gig
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Nov. 10, 2012, 11:38 a.m. CST
And people should realize people getting shot in the face in the pirates movies changed Disney forever
by JackSlater4
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Nov. 10, 2012, 11:44 a.m. CST
Potential list of director's been considered for the episodes 7,8 and 9
by fabian santos
Jon Favreau, Gary Ross, Joe Johnston, Rian Johnson, Jonathan Liebesman, Greg Mottola, Eli Roth, David Fincher, Spike Jonze, Brad Bird and Alfonso Cuarón.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 11:51 a.m. CST
Actually, no.. after this trilogy they're making ep. 10, 11 and 12, so the saga will end up being 12 parts - THEN they make stand-alones
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
Yet more news that wasn't reported on AICN.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 11:54 a.m. CST
News just announced: George Lucas to direct Ep. 7 due to Disney being unable to find a director
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
I would LOVE for that to be the case, just to see the Lucas bashers' heads explode.
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Stephen Sommers, someone say Stephen Sommers! Or Stephen Norrington! Or Oliver Stone, Wes Anderson, the Coen Bros, or Sophia Coppola! Peter Jackson, Paul Verhoeven, Catherine Hardwicke, Kinka Usher, Edward Zwick! Come on, let's just get nuts.
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Fincher,Bied ,Jonze in that order.
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I don't think Disney would want to wait 12-15 years before a standlone Boba Fett film.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 11:57 a.m. CST
Where is this "Michael Arndt's lecture on the importance of Star Wars A New Hope" I keep hearing about?
by Joey Stars
Can't find anything on youtube.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 11:57 a.m. CST
Paul Verhoeven isn't a ridiculous choice
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
After all, he was going to direct ROTJ, until Spielberg saw 'Spetters' and called George up in a panic telling him 'you can't hire this guy!'.
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Its about as ridiculous as David Fincher.
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Because I'd have loved Andrew Stanton for this! Obviously not going to happen now, but it would've been cool!
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Except for that Finding Nemo 2 that he has to do...
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But its not going to happen.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:04 p.m. CST
David Fincher isn't ridiculous, either
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
He'd be well suited to a darker, Empire-like Star Wars film. He used to work for ILM, knows digital effects, and his filmmaking style is fairly clean and classical when it wants to be, and also flexible as evidenced in Benjamin Button (which was a more traditional Hollywood type movie than, say, Fight Club). He would just have to dial back some of his more stylistic flourishes.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:05 p.m. CST
I thought you were talking about filmmaking styles
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
My mistake.
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The Jabba's palace scenes would have been full of alien orgies, Leia would have had to 'service' Jabba, savage Ewoks would have torn stormtroopers limb from limb, and The Emperor's arms would have been severed when he was thrown down the Death Star shaft. All interspersed with propaganda newscasts from the Empire's broadcasting service around the galaxy.
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Filmmaking styles do come into account when discussing realistic choices for director, as do what that particular director is already working on and how much influence that director has on the screenwriting process. So in light of that, I do view Fincher as a ridiculous choice. It won't happen.
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As I read your first sentence on Verhoeven, I was going to add "And LOTS of satire and propaganda too." But you beat me to it!
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:18 p.m. CST
Who'd want Spielberg after the crappy War of the Worlds?
by LORDOFLIGHT
I think he's lost his touch when it comes to sci fi.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:20 p.m. CST
Close Encounters = MASTERPIECE......War of the Worlds = SHITE!
by LORDOFLIGHT
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David Filoni (the guy who does the Clone Wars series). Yeah..that was fun to talk about, wasn't it? People KNOW that most of these wild director choices are impossibilities...it's just fun to shoot the shit. If we limited the discussion to just the handful of dull journeyman nominations that will end up actually having some credence, then this Talkback would be DOA.
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Lew Grade received a knighthood for peddling shit, and Quentin seems to be right on the same wavelength. Its not that he doesn't need the Star Wars universe - its more that Star Wars has been saved from the prissy twat!! And what is he going to rant-on about next? The lack of Austrialian Doctor soap operas, in which someone dies in every episode? Oh, but it has to be done because no-one else is doing it right?!! Cunt. Utter.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:26 p.m. CST
Verhoeven would have played up the Nazi aspect of the Empire for sure
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
He would have had the Emperor sport a comedy Hitler 'stache.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:26 p.m. CST
Can't say I'm happy Disney got their hands on Star Wars.
by LORDOFLIGHT
I just hope they prove us doubters wrong.
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Even more than the prequels.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:28 p.m. CST
We'll have Leia's kids, Lukes kids, Hans kids and Moff Tarkins kids.
by LORDOFLIGHT
And it will be a load of kiddie orientated shit.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:30 p.m. CST
Just like in the Prequels there'll be kids every fuckin where.
by LORDOFLIGHT
I hated the way they had to show a young Boba Fett for a start.
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If he's willing to leave Clone Wars and they're willing to give an animation director his first shot at live-action. Its worked for some. I agree, its fun to imagine what a Fincher movie would be like or a Tarantino Star Wars. I'm tired of reading through the posts of people actively hoping for this or actively talking about it like its a possibility. Yes, let's joke about how a John Woo SW would have Troopers diving sideways through the air, double-fisting blasters. But let's not talk about it like its something that can and should happen. Waste of time.
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And Arnold would play the big bad.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:34 p.m. CST
Basically, EVERY director ever mentioned isn't going to do it.
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
Even Abrams (thankfully) doesn't want to touch Star Wars, at least going by his comments. And the likely candidates, such as Brad Bird and Matthew Vaughan, are booked for the forseeable future. At this rate, they will be lucky to find anyone at all. Perhaps Disney should just cut their losses and sell Star Wars back to Lucas for the princely sum of $1. 50, a bargain at the price.
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That the most realistic choices out of big name directors are Ron Howard Gore Verbinski Jon Favreau Joseph Kosinksi
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:38 p.m. CST
Roberto Benigni's Star Wars : La guerra della estrella e bella
by Gorgomel
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:39 p.m. CST
I could see why QT didn't want the gig: Disney will note the fuck out
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
of whomever is hired.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:39 p.m. CST
The writer of Little Miss Sunshine and Toy Story 3...WTF?
by LORDOFLIGHT
Star Wars needs to have decent sci fi writers not kids story writers.
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Its not right for him. Its not his thing and he knows it.
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Otherwise we're gonna get more of the same old prequel shit.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:42 p.m. CST
Verbinski is the best of that bunch and the best suited
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
But none of them are very exciting, at least not to me.
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It definitely does need someone who knows how to tell a good story.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:43 p.m. CST
Brad Bird will Ayn Rand the fuck out of it. Katherine
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
Bigelow is the person for the job.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:47 p.m. CST
We all expect OT's tone but I'm afraid we gonna get another kiddie show with cartoony CGI fest
by Gorgomel
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Though out of the four, Verbinski excites me the most.
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Let's take hostages over this shit.
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Oh fuck off Hercules. Do you know ANYTHING about the art of filmmaking? Jesus wept.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:55 p.m. CST
turd_is_floating_underneath_the_gravy -- VADER: see you at the Ewok party Emperor
by lv_426
That's still much better than NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
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As long as they dont go "Hunger Games" on the films and cater it to the teenyboppers out there (like their most likely doing with Enders Game.... Ill be happy.. Give me some Lightsaber decapitations..
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Nov. 10, 2012, 12:59 p.m. CST
Arguing over practical effects vs. digital effects completely misses the point.
by Captain Mal
It's all about using the appropriate effects in a my given situation. You know who gets that? Peter Jackson. He knows you can't effectively create Gollum as a practical effect, so he goes digital. At the same time, he's using miniatures for castles and shit, because he knows if these things are going to be psychologically imposing, they must have physicl presence. One way is not the best way. Smart directors use all the tools available to them.
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How much Fantasy and SciFi writing had Kasdan done before Empire? Yeah, that's what I thought. Let's see what happens and not automatically assume the worst. I realize that's asking a lot out of 90% of you hater-fucks, but let's try.
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If I see phrase "hard R Star Wars movie" one more time, I going to punch Internet right in the balls. A person wishing for this doesn't understand Star Wars. Or movies. Or storytelling. Or humans.
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What fucking moron would want that? Do I want it kid friendly? Eh, about as Kid Friendly as ESB, But a Hard R is the most ridiculous idea for SW I've ever heard. Some of you people are fucking not only stupid but have ZERO idea what you're talking about when it comes to moviemaking. Let the adults talk about movies... you guys go back to Direct to DVD Giant Shark Vs. Octopus movies.
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Dune isn't the abortion most think it is.
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Gore Verbinski just finished a huge movie for Disney so he's probably going to be too tired to mount another huge movie in just a few months. Same goes to Abrams and Kosinski. Brad Bird and Matthew Vaugh are signed on to other movies and Ron Howard is 58 years old, I think Disney would like to give it to someone younger.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 1:22 p.m. CST
Why stop for a "hard R"? Go all the way and make a NC-17 Star Wars movie!
by hank henshaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 1:28 p.m. CST
should be taking a closer look at people Kathleen Kennedy has worked with before
by JackSlater4
David Fincher, Gary Ross, Joe Johnston, Robert Zemekis, Frank Oz
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Nov. 10, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST
I'm not looking forward to a utopian trilogy. The last two trilogies were dystopias.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 1:40 p.m. CST
It can't be a democrat or republican.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 1:44 p.m. CST
Peter Coyote should direct - Coyote had first discovered Zen in his teens via the works of Jack Kerouac, Gary Snyder, and other Beats. Coyote met Snyder with the Diggers and was impressed with Snyder's "gravitas and elegance, his care and deliberation".[1
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 1:48 p.m. CST
Peter Coyote is a director and a zen practitioner. He knows real Jedi stuff.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 1:51 p.m. CST
I wouldn't mind Fincher's framing, but he likes reeally dry acting.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/11/09/st ... d-a-maybe/ Leaves Nolan, Favreau, Bird, Cuaron, Aronfsky to me....
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for god's sake, isn't he the obvious choice to write??
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Mark my words. He´s the only one THAT HAS ALREADY created swashbuckling fun adventure films. Not to mention, a multi-billion dollar franchise. Just take a look at the Lone Ranger trailer. That´s the type of fun adventure DNA that Star Wars films need. He´s the safest bet.
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No, he's not and they already have a writer... ... and at what point has Lucas or Disney even put a "petition" for something like that under consideration?
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(Ducks)
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I get a kick out of all the Abrams haters who are pissed off about his Star Trek. I've tried getting into star trek--i really did, but it seemed dated and I couldn't get into it... I didn't know any Star Trek fans but I know a lot of people who went to see Abrams' reboot and loved it--as did I. I don't give a shit what fanboys think about it and I'm glad as fuck that Abrams doesn't give a shit either because I'm looking forward to the next one.
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All they need is someone who is fairly competent and who is not totally inexperienced.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 2:34 p.m. CST
Quentin is actually touching at something relevant there with the shot at West.
by DougMcKenzie
Disney is known to avoid the forefront of directors, as they don't want to pay out the proper points to them. Remember they once gave Pirates to a small horror director called Verbinski, and a guy at a career nadir in Depp. Disney knows where the money is made, and with such a strongly built in IP like Star Wars, they don't need a big name director (or star) to put into it to it to attract the audience.
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...the the writer of Little Miss Sunshine and Toy Story 3 can write Star Wars Episodes VII-IX
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Although picking a director like Cuaron could lead to something really special. I mean, he already did the best Harry Potter film.
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Only a gift from the Gods such as JMcT can handle such a duty as making the new Star Wars Trilogy!
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You've made me wonder what The Asylum will cook up for their Star Wars rip-offs. WAR OF THE STARS: Chapter I: Another Cash Grab WAR OF THE STARS: Chapter II: The Assylum Strikes Back WAR OF THE STARS: Chapter III: Retard of the Gemini
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They need Verbinki to restart the Star Wars franchise... Once its all set, they can go experimental for episode 8. Sequels need to go small, intimate, edgy and maybe dark. You got Cuarón, Fincher for that kind of job.
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Trying to pick a younger, up and coming guy who comes relatively cheap. They tried the Auteur route with Ang Lee and it didn't work. And while it worked with Brannagh, he was kind of viewed as past his prime. I'd expect someone like Neil Blomkamp to be on the short list. Another possibility is Guillermo Del Toro.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 2:51 p.m. CST
I welcome Asylum and anyone else's attempts at scifi fantasy adventure films.
by DarthBlart
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Nov. 10, 2012, 2:52 p.m. CST
I think the mistake in having Abrams direct a reboot of the original Enterprise cast was a mistake
by lv_426
Since Abrams' sensibilities skew more towards action/adventure means he set up the new Trek stuff as pure adrenaline action adventure flicks. Say what you want about The Motion Picture, but we'll never get a slow burn type of big sci-fi idea Trek again. Especially not from Abrams. Not that I don't like Star Trek to be an action adventure from time to time. First Contact pulls it off. The new Trek? Not exactly. I think the mistake was having to pigeonhole Star Trek into just being about Kirk, Spock, Bones, Scotty, and the rest of the classic Enterprise crew. Starfleet has other ships and other officers. They could have done something truly bold and relaunched the series on the big screen with an all new crew on a new ship or a new iteration of the Enterprise. That is what worked for The Next Generation after all. The thing is we've never had the launch of a new crew on cinematic terms. It has always been on TV, and then with both TOS and TNG later gone onto being movies. As for Abrams' action-oriented style, I think they should have had him do a Section 31 Star Trek movie series. All that kind of stuff fits in better with what he does (high concept action adventure, conspiracies, black ops/spies, spectacle). They could have then saved the relaunch of the Enterprise, whether with a new crew or young actors playing the classic roles from TOS as a new TV series or another movie by a director more suited to the material. JJ Abrams' big budget Section 31 Trek film though? Hell yes, let me see that film. It would have actually been really cool to see something along the lines of the Marvel model applied to the relaunch of Star Trek. Slick action adventure Section 31 films that tie in with some classic style TOS crew on TV or in a separate film series. Maybe leading up to one big event?
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Nov. 10, 2012, 2:53 p.m. CST
I think having Abrams direct a reboot of the original Enterprise cast was a mistake
by lv_426
Fuck me and grammer today.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 2:56 p.m. CST
Too bad about Spielberg; as for that piece of shit Tarantino...
by JackPumpkinhead
...the fact that the moronic plagiarist actually makes such a comment reminds me of Rob Schneider's "I will never star in a film with Mel Gibson!" announcement. Yes, cretin, you won't do it - but whether you want to or not (of course you do) is of no significance, as nobody would ask you to.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 2:57 p.m. CST
Not a TV guy. TV filters out talent, only accepts total whores.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 2:58 p.m. CST
Favreau or Verbinski for Episode VII, Branagh or Cuaron for Episode VIII, Joe Johnston or Brad Bird for Episode IX
by lv_426
I think those picks are all relatively realistic and could work out well in the long run.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 2:59 p.m. CST
Abrams Star Trek and Disney Muppets = Culture eating itself , a "celebration" of our icons.. NOOOOoooooooo.. That's not creativity at all.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 2:59 p.m. CST
Remember that Favreau also was attached to John Carter back when they were actually still calling it A Princess of Mars
by lv_426
Maybe he's still got that space operatic itch to scratch?
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Nov. 10, 2012, 3:08 p.m. CST
Lucas' directing is about to be appreciated. None of these directors can hold a candle to Lucas, sorry.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 3:09 p.m. CST
"They could have done something truly bold and relaunched the series on the big screen with an all new crew"
by D.Vader
Uhhhh, no, not with the state of Star Trek being what it was before Abrams' movie. There's no way that would have worked.
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Hey kids, feel guilty about throwing your toys away. That movie was a true mind-screw for kids.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 3:13 p.m. CST
Makes sense Spielberg wouldn't want to outdo George or generally take SW away from him & Quentin should make a stand alone Star Wars film.
by DarthBlart
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Why not? Might be a bit off the wall but it would sure as hell be more interesting than Abrams vision. Also, i love lv_426's idea of Jason Statham as a Jedi. A force roundhouse kick would be unbelievable to watch.
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Favreau sounds like he might be. He's worked with Lucas on the "Clone Wars" cartoon and Harrison Ford on "Cowboys and Aliens."
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Nov. 10, 2012, 3:20 p.m. CST
Looking for someone untested on blockbusters, hercules. Like Marquand or Kershner.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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+ the return of Lobot!
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Nov. 10, 2012, 3:22 p.m. CST
Anyone who thinks Spielberg is a has-been should see Lincoln.
by Brian Hopper
A great film. Spielberg deploys all of his talent into it, but in a measured and sophisticated way. And a really enjoyable and entertaining film as well.
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The sith would be amazing
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Nov. 10, 2012, 3:26 p.m. CST
Star Wars is already created, so it doesn't need a visionary or creator director. Nobody wants it changed. Lucas is still creating it.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 3:28 p.m. CST
jeshopk -- no Star Wars that isn't anything but a celebration of our icons is possible at this point
by lv_426
Not if Hollywood wanted creativity and to tell new stories they'd make things like The Forever War instead of Prometheus. Instead of Star Trek they'd adapt some epic space saga like Ringworld, or buy an original spec script from some talented and hungry new writer. That is of course how we got the original Star Wars and The Matrix and Terminator and Back to the Future and many other great genre films in the first place. Instead we get young actors playing classic Trek characters in a Star Trek reboot/remake. Same goes for just about everything that comes out of Hollywood these days. Either we just got stuck in a shit period for innovative movies, or cinema is dying, or changing into something else. Even just with books, there are tons of them out there that could make fantastic films. Hollywood can't be arsed to give a shit. Even when they do they almost always screw it up or throw away the entire theme or subtext of the book (see World War Z). For every adaptation that really tries to be the best it can be, stuff like Lord of the Rings, we get an endless amount of crass adaptations that only buy the film rights to a successful novel to get the name alone. Because everything in Hollywood, and in most of entertainment media is about branding. It sucks but it is the sad truth. I'd certainly rather see some new Star Wars sequels in place of another neutered remake of something classic like Blade Runner or the original Star Wars trilogy. I think those of us who know enough to not get hyped up like we did with the prequel trilogy or with Indy IV know to only expect so much. Personally I've learned this lesson with the prequels and Indy and more recently with Prometheus. Just the other day I got kicked in the nuts by the World War Z trailer. I doubt these new Star Wars will be much better, if at all than the prequels. The biggest thing is that it is new territory for the story. The biggest problem with the prequels, at least for me was the fact that we all knew that Anakin was going to become Darth Vader. Sure we could guess that Luke might prevail over the dark side in the OT, but at least it wasn't all as set in stone like the narrative trajectory of the prequels. I think that is the thing that makes moving ahead with Episodes 7-9 an interesting proposition. It can at least be entertaining. Will it be mind-blowing and mythic like seeing the OT for the first time? No. But it might be fun. It will most likely at the very least be a breath of fresh air from all the lame faux-gritty hand-held action and sci-fi flicks that hammer us with the Horn of Doom (aka: BWAAHHMMMM!!!!!) in their cookie-cutter paint-by-numbers give-away-the-entire-plot trailers. It will most likely be something more interesting and more alive than all the lame teal and orange desaturated or over-saturated Bayhem style no-plot FX porn films we get every summer. It has potential man. It has potential... to at least be a good time at the movies, and another jaunt through a pretty darn cool fictional sci-fi universe. For the record, I don't care for The Phantom Menace. I dislike a lot of Attack of the Clones, but in terms of breaking it down into its various parts I like some things about it. There are some gems in there that are overshadowed by some crap. I rather like Revenge of the Sith. Maybe not equal to the OT films, but good stuff. The NOOOO!!!!! thing is silly, but it doesn't ruin the movie or anything. So I don't hate the prequels. I also love Return of the Jedi. Is it better than the original Star Wars or Empire? No, but it is just as fun. The OT is solid in my book.
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Enough said.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 3:31 p.m. CST
Spielberg is NOT a has-been, will never be. But he is not the same man he was 30 years ago, and that's okay.
by hank henshaw
The Spielberg of Jaws, Raiders, E.T., even Jurassic Park never came back after Schindler's List. Sometimes glimpses of the old Spielberg can be seen in his more recent movies, but it's obvious the more mature Spielberg prefers doing historical dramas like Lincoln, War Horse or Munich. You can't pretend a man in his 60s (after such a successful career) to have the same interest as a man in his 30s trying to make a point.
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Too risky.
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Darth Chelios? Obi-Chev Kenobi?
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Nov. 10, 2012, 3:34 p.m. CST
Someone with a style is *not* going to work *cough SAM RAIMI cough*
by D.Vader
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I'm not really into Raimi being the director, but Bruce could fit in there if they need another rogue outlaw type dude.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 3:42 p.m. CST
I question Arndts credentials based on what he's written in the past - being a Star Wars fan isn't enough
by FrodoFraggins
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Hollywood is watching. I am so embarrassed.
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His last movie scored 19% positive on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Make it so.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 3:53 p.m. CST
adeceasedfan I've settled on a composer, John Williams, and a story writer, George Lucas, and a shots planner, ILM - Who directs the actors? Damned if I care, as long as it's not someone who's going to break the mood of 1-6.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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What about a del Toro sw? Might be good, although I'd like to see pacific rim first before I could say for sure...
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Nov. 10, 2012, 3:55 p.m. CST
What about a del Toro SW? Have to see pacific rim first to know for sure...
by Chris
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Nov. 10, 2012, 3:58 p.m. CST
I appreciate the post, lv_426 but if this is just an exercise in mainstreaming Star Wars, I have no interest. Star Wars isn't just a bunch of designs and archetypes moving around the screen. It's writer apparently wants to steer this thing from the backs
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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If Pacific Rim is a big hit, then that turns into another big franchise. So he might direct or produce another one of those. If he brings in enough money via Pacific Rim, then I wouldn't be surprised if Del Toro did a passion project. Could be At The Mountains Of Madness, or something else. Besides, he produces a lot of stuff and is supposedly co-producing a TV adaptation of his vampire novel The Strain.
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Star Wars: La Dolce Jedi
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4 p.m. CST
damn truncation. I say let Lucas shadow steer this thing, and get some indie director who's good with actors.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Tell me seeing Darth Chelios or him portraying a self taught Jedi with a bad attitude wouldn't put a smile on your face? He might not be the best actor but he has charisma in buckets and acting quality hasn't exactly been in the forefront of the Star Wars films.
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Plus watching him trying to fuck an Ewok to create static to charge his mechanical body parts would be worth the price of admission alone!
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:04 p.m. CST
Even with the Shadow of Lucas helping to steer the ship, it will never be what it was before
by lv_426
At best it will be fun. If you love the Star Wars universe (not just the physical attributes like world and ships, but the mythology and ideas), then it could very well be fun times at the movies. Any mythic resonance that seeps through a bonus, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that. With George there giving input, but not the one guy that signs off on everything anymore, I think we could have a better setup than the prequels. So while they won't be better than the prequels, these sequels will at least have the potential to be fun and more consistent than the prequels.
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If the point of it all is to finally get a good SW, I could wait for him to free up some time. If you can't tell, I'm a del Toro fan, at least until he fucks up SW VIII in 2018...
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:12 p.m. CST
It can not be fun unless it is as anti-establishment as the prequels and the OT. 1-3 was a crumbling dystopia and 4-6 was the rebellion. That was the fun.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:16 p.m. CST
Where's the fun in government building? Just sayin.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:19 p.m. CST
Give me Harryhausen or Give Me Death. Why fanboys hate ROTJ/ while creaming out their muffintops over your average Peter Jackson Achievment in Science.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Your average arrested development fanboy wants his films to be Nerd Tough. He'd rather play Halo and shoot stuff than play Double Dragon. There's an immature macho sensibility that says ROTS has too many Muppets, Jar Jar Binks is the Antichrist, the Nolan/Scorcese style of Batman film is the ONLY one worth talking about.... Have too much goofy childlike whimsy in a movie and the fanboy colon gets itchy, as though it was being approached by a pedophilic balloon clown. It's like stodgy people who say "I can't watch cartoons, those are for KIDS!" I like Harryhausen and The Neverending Story beause those films are gorgeously staged, on real locations, by people who understand the real mythic sweep of archetypal storytelling. Movies aren't splitting the atom- if you are going to films to have your eyeballs split open by scientific achievements you are HURTING cinema- these things are still Greek theater, and the further you take them from theater the more you are deadening their impact. It's like watching an empty cake filled with sugar being swarmed over by ants.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:19 p.m. CST
jeshopk -- I think 1-3 was the fall of Europe, 4-6 was World War II, and 7-9 can be the Cold War
by lv_426
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He's already proven he can handle an established property. He can do trilogies. He'd add just the right amount of grit and rawness back into the SW universe. If not him, then Whedon. Or Abrams. I could live with any of the three. But Nolan's SW would be awesome...
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There will be plenty of fodder for OT style swashbuckling antics in 7-9.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:23 p.m. CST
lv_426 well, Lucas said "The Empire is like the US 10 years from now" in 1973, so cold war doesn't work. Would rather see the government be weak and in the background. People taking care of problems themselves. How can a galaxy maintain a government anywa
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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I tried the new Double Dragon on Xbox Live. It was fun, but no Streets of Rage IMO.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:27 p.m. CST
And if we are going to criticize some games for being cold and cynical, then Call of Duty is more appropriate than Halo
by lv_426
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:27 p.m. CST
I should say, Call of Duty is a more appropriate target than Halo
by lv_426
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:28 p.m. CST
Nolan's got wierd ideas about order and chaos that don't sit well.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:30 p.m. CST
Philosophically, how can the story move forward with a rebuilt or rebuilding Republic in center stage? I'd hope Han, Leia and Luke didn't take the throne.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:30 p.m. CST
Willow, old Gilliam, The Neverending Story. You tell me which films belong on the classics shelf, post- Jurassic Park.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Was Baron Munchausen made after Jurassic Park? It's a small list. Willow, old Gilliam (Time Bandits, Munchausen) The Neverending Story. Underdogs maybe- in terms of opinion- but pinnacles of their kind. I notice that Terry Gilliam's film company for those films was HANDMADE FILMS. I'm not talking about modern films here, like LOTR. Where every commercial and promotional detail is trying to sell you on the goddamn you'd better be impressed epic-ness of the thing. If any movie-fans out there can come up with movies made after the 1990's that carry on the New Hope mantle of mythic filmmaking (Jurassic Park being the film that capsized what we knew as -special effects)- I would like to hear them. The more distance you put between yourself and the simple no-tech experience of being TOLD A STORY the more you are damaging the fragile magic in the air around you. And I'd rather watch the cartoon Hobbit or the Muppet Star Wars any day of the week. Human materials/ means more texture/ means more mystery lurking in the folds of the human imagination. It's as simple as that.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:31 p.m. CST
Hey hank henshaw what about TINTIN c'mon!?! sorry don't agree w you, did youknow Spielberg was a consultant in ROTS???
by fabian santos
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:31 p.m. CST
Hey hank henshaw what about TINTIN c'mon!?! sorry don't agree w you, did youknow Spielberg was a consultant in ROTS???
by fabian santos
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:32 p.m. CST
Spielberg helped Lucas to desing the final act of ROTS just watch the making of...
by fabian santos
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:34 p.m. CST
hank henshaw Spielberg got first interested in TINTIN in 1982 and he made the movie just now...so again don't agree with your premise
by fabian santos
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:37 p.m. CST
Absolute 'NO' to: Verbanski, Blomkamp, Kevin Smith, Snyder, and Johnston
by acroyear
Brad Bird, maybe so.
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I'd much rather see mocap move forward than talking potato Pixar films every few months. Beowulf is probably one of the greatest fantasy films ever made. It's dark, psychedelic and shot- full of pulp and Frazetta. Only when they can get adults into theater seats for -cartoons- of that magnitude, are you gonna see a return to a Heavy Metal and Watership Down level of filmmaking. Heavy Metal, NIMH, Watership Down... The Plague Dogs... Fire and Ice (Beowulf COULD go on that list) so sad the short shrift that period has been given by history. That could be the future if we had more adventurous studios. Obviously there is a market for adult animation out there. Not just the TinTin kind of stories.
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but being as I am, such an Excitebike kind of guy, the words themselves felt like Lyle Alzado's leathery nuts in my mouth
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:46 p.m. CST
I think no matter who's gonna make it, as long is the guy a fan, a person who loves SW
by fabian santos
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:51 p.m. CST
Favreau would be serviceable - Gilliam would be genius - Which means we'll wind up with bland-o-matic Howard
by gruntybear
Gilliam has the whimsical visual flair that a Star Wars film needs - But sadly, we're destined for mediocrity here, so Opie Cunningham, it is
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and I thought Super 8 was a great movie. The script for Trek was a huge letdown but it was still an enjoyable film. Overall I think JJ would do a good job with a good script.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST
Oh and d.vader - Lick my mudcutter, you pompous Talkback troll
by gruntybear
Praising the plotless Abrams' Star Trek Wars film instantly brands one as a moron. Star Trek wasn't dead. It didn't need a big screen reboot. Star Trek needs to be on television, not as an occasional summer tent pole for Paramount.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 4:58 p.m. CST
Quentin Tarantino named Toy Story 3 as his favorite movie of 2010. So he must be excited.
by thefreshestthing
http://www.slashfilm.com/quentin-tarantinos-favorite-movies-2010/
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Nov. 10, 2012, 5:16 p.m. CST
At the beginning of Ep 1, the Jedi were "world police" which was their downfall. They can't return to threatening arbitrators, which is an immoral position, and brought their demise.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 5:17 p.m. CST
SANJURO should be the model for the Jedi. Outsiders who see the absurdity of it all, slash a guy in two and get pissed they were placed in that position. WATCH SANJURO.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 5:19 p.m. CST
1-3 was feudalism, with Jedi as Samurai. System failed, a Jedi helps the rebels destroy the machine. Now what? Only thing to do is keep your integrity. Non joiners should be the heroes. Masterless samurai.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Get three huge Star Wars fans who are directors. You want J.J. to direct episode 7, fine. He gets to go first. Have him set up the story. Next you bring in a a more serious director, for the darker episode 8. Then you get someone else to do episode 9. It would be so much better. Most directors are passing, cause they don't want to waste 6-8 years making a trilogy. If he only had to do one movie, I bet Steven would've done one.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 5:53 p.m. CST
TinTin was wonderful. Too bad no Spielberg for Star Wars.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 5:54 p.m. CST
people getting so pissed off about Star Trek
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
because the older generation of sci fi that made Trek produced cerebral, mind-bending films. that material and those pioneers deserve to have the respect of having their creations treated with great care. Trek was passionate boy's adventure films, and everyone had a sense of awe and exploration. they weren't Energy Drink Soda movies. or one man's (who wasn't a Trek fan in the first place) excuse to finally make his Star Wars fan film. there is a big difference between the generation of Rod Serling and Ray Bradbury-style storytellers, and the hipsters of 2012 who make empty by-the-numbers fan films like Super 8 and then call it... meaningful... or art? LOST, in its best moments, did hit the notes of a Rod Serling or a Richard Matheson, but I have seen the credits for who wrote the bulk of the scripts, and it wasn't JJ Abrams. Most of the rebels in Hollywood seem to be old guys who can't get a meeting anymore. Give me one William Friedkin, Terry Malick for anyone showing up on the wishlists here. Sam Raimi is a good choice, because he understands camp and fun while grounding everything in a real universe. Everyone embracing Pixar when they are basically devaluing classic animation to the level of fast food... is such bullshit (Star Wars definitely owes to classic Wizard and Sawdust Disney, to Tron, but just... nothing at all to the studio who made SORCEROR'S APPRENTICE with Nicholas Cage)
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Nov. 10, 2012, 6:05 p.m. CST
Sitting through JJ Star Trek was certainly a low point in my cinema going career.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Similar to Europe after the fall of the Roman Empire. In the power vacuum clan based societies fight each other for survival. There is little order. The new Jedi order are like a fighting monastic order-- trying to preserve the best elements of the older culture while trying influence stable political societies.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 6:12 p.m. CST
Abrams could get Harrison Ford on board. When Regarding Henry came out they did a piece together in USA Today's Sunday magazine. There was a pic of them happily jumping on a bed.
by skoolbus
Not kidding.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 6:15 p.m. CST
Oh, and yeah. Three different directors. 1: Abrams. 2: Blomkamp or Cuaron. 3: Brad Bird
by skoolbus
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Nov. 10, 2012, 6:44 p.m. CST
ingeld geopolitical jedi chess is a bore, and just goes back to immoral Jedi. Gotta move forward. If the Jedi learned anything it should be to stay outta politics.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 6:45 p.m. CST
"Jedi peacekeepers" is a truly repugnant notion. It worked in the prequels because that was their flaw.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 6:48 p.m. CST
Two words for the new Jedi: Wu Wei - know it, learn it, live it. It's the way of the superior Jedi in 1-6.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 6:54 p.m. CST
Seeing Luke as a classroom teacher (even sitting outdoors) would make me wretch.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Why would anyone in their right mind think that Tarantino would be a good fit for Star Wars? What film in that guy's resume says "Star Wars"? None. It is just absurd to even throw that name out there or to even question him it. If he was even asked by Disney then I have lost all hope for the film. Speilberg I think would have been okay, but if he doesn't want it then so be it. I think a lot of directors are going to chicken out on this. Instead of seizing a great opportunity, they are going to wuss out because deep down, Hollywood directors are mostly cowards. They might stick their necks out for a small film that no one will ever see except film geeks, but when it comes to something a lot of people will go see? Chicken city. Abrams might be the only choice here as he already showed he's not afraid of the challenge when he took on Star Trek. I just hope it is a good director who loves the original trilogy.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 6:57 p.m. CST
If it's someone who disliked the prequels, forget it.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Why would anyone think Speilberg would do one. Its an established film series. Hes no new kid on the scene the way he was when he first made the comments that he would like to direct one. He is the biggest Hollywood director around! Why would he direct Star Wars? And who in their right mind would think a Tarintino Star Wars would even be a good Star Wars film. I Love Tarintino but i sure as fuck dont want to see him near this or aJames Bond film. And to add more to this i hope to god JJ stays away too! His Star Trek is fun but it lacks any real substance. Its a action film in the guise of a Star Trek movie.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 7:11 p.m. CST
Because when you think Lucasfilms, you think Spielberg and Lucas. Spielberg did all the Indiana Jones movies.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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I know I'll be disappointed if its anyone but Brad Bird, Alfonso Cuaron, or Neill Blomkamp. In that order. It certainly can't be directed by an an unknown. Disney and Lucasfilm can't entrust the most valuable movie property in the world to anyone that doesn't have a proven record. I just don't think there's a better choice for director than Brad Bird. I remember an interview with him in Entertainment Weekly back in 2004 where he was discussing the tone he wanted THE INCREDIBLES to have. He wanted to strike the same balance of adventure, romance, humor, tension and violence of RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK and STAR WARS. I definitely feel he succeeded. I don't know if any movie has gotten that perfect blend that ROTLA and SW have as THE INCREDIBLES did. And if any of you have seen the color script for THE INCREDIBLES, you'll know it has a very similar feel that the Ralph McQuarrie concept art for the STAR WARS Trilogy and Jim Steranko concept art for RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK have. One of the most important things for the Sequel Trilogy is the iconography! Lets have some memorable design work.
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If he "could so care less" about directing the film, then that means he has at least some interest in doing it!!! Oh, what a masterful wordsmith he is!
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You couldn't be more wrong. I'm fine with all of you Prequel Trilogy apologists enjoying the Prequel Trilogy. Watch it everyday for the rest of your lives. I really hope the director of the Sequel Trilogy has some serious disdain for the Prequels. If they think they're as good as the Original Trilogy, then they'll make the same mistakes Lucas made. I want the Sequel Trilogy to be adventure films like the Original Trilogy. Not political debates and soap opera melodrama like the Prequel Trilogy.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 7:29 p.m. CST
one9deuce The Prequels was always the backstory of Star Wars, read the intro to the novelization. You can't have someone who disowns the backstory, it's INTEGRAL to the philosophy of 4-6.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 7:31 p.m. CST
And onedeuce, there were no mistakes in the prequels.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 7:32 p.m. CST
And onedeuce, Disney bought Star Wars because of the prequels' financials. There's bigger money in trusting George's ideas than trusting Brad Bird's ideas and they know it.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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It's the best fit. He's loved at Marvel, Pixar, and Disney. His current projects are more or less in development/writing stage. So Star Wars VII is basically his. Oh, and he has a relationship with Han Solo http://www.slashfilm.com/jon-favreau-interviews-harrison-ford/
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Nov. 10, 2012, 7:48 p.m. CST
After watching Prometheus I say get Ridley Scott to Direct the movie!
by ThaJackaL
I mean Prometheus was fucking awesome! I think it would be neat for the man who gave us Aliens also gave us a Star Wars movie! :D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vovT4xF5LaM sure he's overweight but, just imagine him as a jedi master. He has enthusiasm and presence. He needs to get all Keanu and start a new jedi order. You know it to be true!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAYwQIERib4&feature=endscreen&NR=1
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Nov. 10, 2012, 7:59 p.m. CST
Ridley Scott is a phillistine when it comes to film music, so no. Favreau seems more like an Aaron Spelling at this point, just like Whedon and JJ.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 8:05 p.m. CST
Kevin Smith to JJ Abrams, "Why do you keep creating shows? Are you just power and money hungry?"
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
http://youtu.be/nAYwQIERib4?t=42s
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Nov. 10, 2012, 8:14 p.m. CST
George Lucas explains what he was getting at in new interview-
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
http://globalspin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/george-lucas-now-and-then1-460x363.jpg This is a lonely man, people.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 8:23 p.m. CST
sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch I did see miniatures used a lot in the prequels
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 8:23 p.m. CST
Favreau actually had a falling out with Marvel over Iron Man 2
by Bladerunner751
Marvel sent him into filming without a script which made the filming of that movie a nightmare. Marvel then locked him out of the editing room. It's the reason he's not making Iron Man 3. He's still cool with Disney though as far as I know.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 8:23 p.m. CST
sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch not to say I wouldn't love to see a proper puppet Hutt
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 8:24 p.m. CST
sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch What did you think of the Hellboy 2 monsters?
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 8:32 p.m. CST
GEORGE LUCAS - "I OWN THIS SHIT! THIS IS MY SHIT! I WILL STOMP YOUR NECK IN IF YOU TOUCH MY SHIT!"
by Brodie Watson
lets not kid ourselves people.... whoever is directing or writing will have their mouths on george's balls the whole way through asking him how hard or how soft to suck. Only when i know for certain that george has minimal influence will i breath a sigh of relief
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Nov. 10, 2012, 8:36 p.m. CST
I TOOK A DUMP TODAY AND LOOKED DOWN IN THE TOILET AND SAW A STEAMING COILER I NAMED IT "THE PREQUEL TRILOGY"
by Brodie Watson
As far as im concerned all the greatness that is the original trilogy was cancelled out by the horribleness that is the prequels
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I don't know why the hate for JJ. If anything ... he took Star Trek and made it seem a little more like Star Wars. ....
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so I don't know if this has been discussed or digested. I forgot Disney owned ABC. JJ Abrams rocked ABC with Alias and Lost. Why wouldn't it be JJ? It makes total sense...
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Nov. 10, 2012, 8:55 p.m. CST
jabberwookie9 Move on to other creators, then. Lucas never let me down. There are plenty of Lucas fans, and he doesn't need you. I don't care what JJ does as long as he sticks to his own creations.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 8:56 p.m. CST
jabberwookie9 name your favorite action movie of the past 10 years
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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I think there are some people that use CG very well, and they take the proper time to get the textures and the fluidity right. Del Toro is one of them. For an example of what I'm talking about, there is a scene in Alice In Wonderland where they seem to deliberately give Crispin Glover on his horse a little Harryhausen-style jerky puppetoon movement, and it plays very well. And I found the story in Hellboy 2 sort of muddled so I never gave it a fair chance, but everything I've ever seen from Del Toro (except for Rise of the Guardians, soon to be released) has been spot on and true to the D&D/ Lovecraft-inspired source... I think BLADE 2 remains one of the most perfect translations of comics-to-film that I've ever seen. I also think the effects in the prequels are pretty awesome, and get SO much better as they go along, but certain things could have been done with physical and location-based environments to give it more soul... Much is missing from the Goerge that gave us The Ewok Village and Dagobah and Yoda.
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Other directors that would get me interested plus the movie or movies they did that hint at potential with the franchise: 1) Jon Favreau (Iron Man) 2) Guillermo del Toro (Hellboy, Pan's Labyrinth) 3) Neill Blomkamp (District 9) 4) David Fincher (no particular movie, I'd just watch anything he did) 5) "Maybes": Rian Johnson (Looper), J.J. Abrams (Super 8, Star Trek), or Joe Johnston (Captain America, The Rocketeer)
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Lars Von Trier has already been signed for the trilogy. The movies will be completely improvised, shot entirely on iPhone 3s surgically attached to the actors, who will be put into chemically-induced comas between each day of shooting and brought back to consciousness mid-scene. Duh. I'd think you guys would know this already.
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...easy: unintended consequences. Take out the big oppressive Empire and all these even more evil, insidious shits that were kept at bay by that machine can try and swoop back in. You see that example in history all the time.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 9:34 p.m. CST
Hercules, the only GOOD movies with really high tomatometer readings are the ones that took decades to ripen. A 98% out of the gate is market-driven groupthink. JJ TREK, TOY STORY 3 and DISNEY MUPPETS do not enjoy that much love. No way. It's a sign of me
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 9:39 p.m. CST
vrolokus History has never shown the need for government, just the eventual inevitability of it. In the vaccuum of space? I don't think so. If "the good guys" are Republic employees, it's CRAP. I'd like to see WILD WEST in space, not LEGAL EAGLES.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 9:40 p.m. CST
"You can imagine what 2001 would've gotten on Rotten Tomatoes" - Steven Soderbergh
by Vrolokus
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Nov. 10, 2012, 9:42 p.m. CST
It's a sign of mediocrity, I was going to say.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 9:49 p.m. CST
jeshopk, you are delusional. Star Wars is not outsider art. George put the film together after nailing a fluffy establishment teen nostalgia film (Graffiti) and deciding to aim squarely for commercial family cinema.
by reflecto
He was roundly mocked by most of his avant-garde and '70s artist circle, but Steven Spielberg was the only one who told him he would make millions. George was the first to sell out. But it worked and made some great films. Star Wars has its influences, but it is not and has NEVER BEEN "the product of a revolutionary or rebel voice". This is a man who took full control of the merchandising and licensing from Day 1 and exploited the product fully and to its maximum potential in every possible commercial market. He made SW a major mass market commodity and has never ever stopped. For all his talk, Lucas and SW are the absolute opposite of "anti establishment." He gamed the establishment and took over the casino. And now he is retiring on top of his money. Time to give the films over to fresh, new voices with good ideas.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 9:55 p.m. CST
miniatures were used in Indy 4 too, only to be worked over with CGI, making the miniatures look like... yep, look like they were CGI.
by hank henshaw
Same thing with the sequels, they might have used miniatures, but you can't tell because everything, except the actors, look like computer graphics. Then of course you have the problem of Ewan McGregor, Sam Jackson and Natalie Portman giving the worst performances of their careers, but that's another story.
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watching this modern age is like looking at lemmings sponging up New Cool with no respect for any of the history or tradition where these stories come from people are being shilled to, when can they exploit the basest action-film properties of our great sci-fi properties, and ignore their cerebral underpinnings completely. moutain dew trek, happy meal disney, and now pocket playstation lego star wars the series. When you merchandise your art down to the plastic chew toy level you can see how these things happen. Great films like Fantasia and 2001 were made by generations who thought deeper, worked harder, and took the time and manpower to tell a story right. We need more creators less concerned with money than they are with putting great literature on the shelf.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 9:56 p.m. CST
The prequels FX already look badly dated. The fact that George does not know how to direct actors and scenes makes it far worse than it has to be.
by reflecto
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Nov. 10, 2012, 9:57 p.m. CST
Ah yes, Soderbergh, the man who brought us Ocean's Twelve. Spare me.
by reflecto
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so effortless and full of color it looks like he just points a camera at these glamourous Hollywood peacocks and watches as the scenery blooms around them. those are charming films that channel old school Hollywood grace in a way that you don't see anymore. but of course this is the talkback for JJ Abrams and Brad Bird, not an artist like Soderbergh who really knows how to bottle unpredictability and grace
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:03 p.m. CST
reflecto: that's a totally nonsensical reply. The point was: acclaim on a review aggregate site is a silly way to judge "success".
by Vrolokus
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:04 p.m. CST
If the 70's brought us the DISCO SUCKS movement the 2000's could see a RIGHTS FOR CARTOONS movement
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
people are getting sick of CGI fueling everything, they are sick of farting penguin musicals every couple of months expect a backlash
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:06 p.m. CST
reflecto it's SUBVERSIVE outsider art. Lucas is still THX-1138.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:08 p.m. CST
Whedon would kill it. But Gore Verbinski truly is the perfect fit and already a part of the Disney family with POTC
by pollaxt
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Do you really feel you're giving this topic the attention it deserves?
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:09 p.m. CST
No, jesophk, he's not and every sane person knows he hasn't been THX Lucas in over 30 years. He CHOSE to turn his back on that to succeed with Graffiti and SW. He has admitted this and said he resents SW's success as a result. He was THE man who struck
by reflecto
He made 3 wonderful films which restored studio dominance. THAT is his legacy.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:10 p.m. CST
No, reflecto, you don't have to be a communist to be anti-establishment
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:10 p.m. CST
Lucas became the Empire. He chose to do that. He took over Hollywood and the establishment, tamed the studios and BECAME one. The king is dead. He has been a long time.
by reflecto
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:13 p.m. CST
reflecto, I'm not the last, and not the first. Happy Meals will exist regardless of whether you're under the boot.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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More than one critic has compared Lucas' downfall to the narrative in his own films, and how the Hollywood blockbuster films helped to end the same New Wave auteur spirit that created them in the first place
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:19 p.m. CST
yeah the Ocean's films are commercial films,
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
obviously, but art sneaks out from the best of us, and the fast/ loose, and indie style of those movies is what made them such a likable time in the first place. some people know how to play MUSIC, and sell-out stuff notwithstanding, a good Soderbergh film has its naturalness and jazz panache plenty of commercial movies are arty. something Star Wars, under George Lucas, did well, WITH some big missteps along way. the prequels really do have some amazing moments in them.
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Easy Rider to Bakshi + Jaws/ Black Stallion/ Dragonslayer is my favorite era of filmmaking. Even the Disney of the early 80's made some beautiful, rough films. The Disney of now makes some sterile commercial shit in comparison.
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the only one who would be a coward would be you staring at my cock.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:25 p.m. CST
Little Miss Sunshine was rated R. Not sure why it keeps getting referred to as a family film.
by thefreshestthing
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:28 p.m. CST
reflecto - Wired Magazine, 2005, they talk to Lucas about ending Star Wars and his upcoming plans. They include a 1984/Brave New World type movie,
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
depicting a pharmaceutically number society of the future under constant video surveillance" and "one about the media" that will be "controversial and hard to get on the air.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:31 p.m. CST
jesophk, it is 2012. Let me know when these brave outsider films come out.
by reflecto
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:32 p.m. CST
I only hope Disney makes an all-new CGI, direct-to-DVD adventure starring Tinkerbell and all her friends because I'm getting sick of waiting
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
http://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/68753-Kaiba/753/47/190_display.jpg
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:33 p.m. CST
what do you think the prequels were about, reflecto? Happy Meals?
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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You do not know your ass from a hole in the ground. its saturday night. go out and try to get laid. do not worry about me, i have two korean girls licking my balls at the moment. eat a dick.
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:41 p.m. CST
the underwear, the fart jokes and poop jokes. That is George. You take the bad with the good or you live ignorant.
by reflecto
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:42 p.m. CST
I just got in, cuntlip. I wouldn't eat your dick if it was wrapped in cash.
by reflecto
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:46 p.m. CST
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:50 p.m. CST
There's a visceral reaction against anti-establishment films like Star Wars 1-3, especially when they have so much influence.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 10, 2012, 10:52 p.m. CST
Episodes 1-3 suck donkey balls and george lucas knows it too dink.
by swmc
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Nov. 10, 2012, 11:29 p.m. CST
Hey Gruntybear, I was joking. I guess you're too arrogant to see that.
by D.Vader
But hey, labeling someone a troll based on a movie they supposedly like automatically makes you a troll. So fuck you too, buddy.
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kthx
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He's done with Indy/Star Wars type movies. I's not because he's dodging fanboys or the treatment sucks. He's just not interested. Besides he's not the next generation of film makers Lucasfilm is talking about. Tarantino? Wow, really shocked he's "turning it down." I doubt he was even asked. Ridiculous notion that he would even consider it. Abrams already made a Star Wars movie called Star Trek back in 2009 so he's out.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 2:44 a.m. CST
Abrams already ruined Star Trek, why let him loose on Star Wars?
by yeah i'm a jerk!
Zack Snyder sucks too.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 2:59 a.m. CST
MICHAEL ARNDT BELONGS IN A CEREAL BOX!! EPISODE VII = DOA .......... NO TALENT HACK!!!
by wannabedirector
MOTHERFUKER CO-WROTE HUNGER GAMES: CATCHING FIRE!!!!! BLOW ME AND FUK YOU DISNEY!!!!! o yea....... how about that shit movie OBLIVION coming out, and this cracker jack prize is in charge of writing the FULL SCREENPLAY OF STAR WARS!!!!!! ...................... you all need wake the fuk up...........
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Nov. 11, 2012, 3:02 a.m. CST
HE WAS A FORMER ASSISTANT TO MATTHEW BRODERICK!!!! LMFAO!!!
by wannabedirector
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I don't know why the hate for JJ. If anything ... he took Star Trek and made it seem a little more like Star Wars
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Nov. 11, 2012, 3:21 a.m. CST
I still say, JJ Abrams is the man for the Nu-SW movies to be.
by albert comin
According to you geeks he saved ST and he made a great movie out of it with his own style and filmmaking idiosincracies. So, if he's such a savior of franchises, and according to you SW needs so much saving, it stands to reason he's the man for the job. And he loves SW a lot, it's a well known fact, and he already made a quasi-SW movie with his movie that's called Star Trek, so really, who's best? Nobody, that's who. JJ is the man for this. Nobody else would be more suited. I don't know why there is even a discussion about this. I don't know why Disney is pretending there is even an option. And the only reason JJ is playing coy must be to bargain a better paycheck and creative control or it's one of his mystery box thing taken to his career type of deal. Really, JJ Abrams is your man. Accept no substitutes. You all know it to be true, specially those who loved his Star Trek. If he's good enough for Star Trek, he's twice that for Star Wars. He would be perfect. You know it to be true in your geek hearts.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 3:30 a.m. CST
dude, listen very carefully.......1 PERSON WILL NEVER DIRECT BOTH STAR TREK AND STAR WARS!!! GET THE FUK OVER IT!!!
by wannabedirector
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Nov. 11, 2012, 4:24 a.m. CST
@Mr wannabedirector, but JJ Abrams is no average person, he's the savior of franchises!
by albert comin
He's the closest thing to Jesus there is in the geek world. And who says one director can't work on both ST and SW? Where is that writen in stone by god himself? Besides, JJ has been making SW movies already, his ST movies are nothing but SW movies facsimiles. He already has the experience, that's a plus. Nobody is more perect for a Sw then old boy JJ, and you know it, stop wrestling with it, let it go. JJ is like the force, once you accept it's fundamental to SW it gets easy to take it in.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 4:29 a.m. CST
The J in JJ Abrams is for Jesus. So he's twice Jesus. One for ST (as so you geeks claim) and the other is for Star Wars (of course).
by albert comin
Jesus-Jesus Abrams is the only (more then) man for Nu-SW. You all know it to be true. He's the one true savior of SW, as he was for ST (as according to what you all said of him when the movie was released).
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Nov. 11, 2012, 5:03 a.m. CST
JJ Abrams directed the 3rd best Star trek movie.Nicholas Meyer Directed the other 2,Nicholas Meyer for star wars fuckers.
by JohnWayneWasGay
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Nov. 11, 2012, 5:05 a.m. CST
Sorry I meant he wrote the voyage home,Nimoy directed it derp
by JohnWayneWasGay
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Nov. 11, 2012, 5:33 a.m. CST
ATTACK THE BLOCK, one of the only movies since the golden age of Goonies and Amblin to mean a damn.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
That guy would make a good Star Wars movie. Didn't he do Scott Pilgrim as well? That was a genius film.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 5:39 a.m. CST
JJ Abrams is a yuppie and he makes middle of the road yuppie movies.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
pretty underwear models and blowing shit up Alias and LOST were rad, but Star Wars was fucking sugar free red bull at a Sheryl Crow concert and so was Super 8 Learn how to seperate art from razzle dazzle cornchips movies
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Yes, but what about Felicity, Regarding Henry and his unproduced script for Superman? That's what i'd like to know your opinion for.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 6:50 a.m. CST
scirocco, I never said a kind word about JJs Star Trek, no, the jocks were yelling at the nerds who didn't like it those weeks. JJs Trek = some athlete stealing cheating off a science student's test, then stealing his microscope and saying "WHATTAYOUGONNA
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 11, 2012, 6:53 a.m. CST
Abrams is to Trek fans what Schumacher is to Batman fans
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 11, 2012, 7 a.m. CST
WERNER HERZOG would say no, but from what I've seen I have no objections.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 11, 2012, 7:59 a.m. CST
Abrams bashers, get it into your heads - he gave Star Trek (2009) energy and grit; two things missing from the Star Wars prequels and Indiana Jones 4.
by Gary Makin
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Nov. 11, 2012, 8:01 a.m. CST
Brad Bird vs. JJ Abrams? MI3 is better than MI4 (which is also good, but too jokey).
by Gary Makin
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Nov. 11, 2012, 9:15 a.m. CST
It's No Secret I've Campaigned Hard For The Directing Job. Hear Me Out. My List of Qualifications:
by Buzz Maverik
1)I saw STAR WARS. Twice. And I'm aware they've made sequels, which I'm willing to take a look at. A friend suggested that if I make the movie, I do prequels, but that is a stupid idea. 2)I like money. Lots of it. 3)I collect shotguns, smoke Cuban cigars, and drink fine tequila. 4)I have a good relationship with Disney and am now allowed back in the park (big whoop!). 5)I enjoy yelling, cruelty and .... mentioned money already, didn't I? 6)I'm willing to to listen to someone giving me a brief (key word) synopsis of Little Miss Sunshine's script. I may even shoot some of it.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST
MI3 better than MI4? Say wha-??? Not even JJ Abrams would agree with that one, and he produced both.
by hank henshaw
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Nov. 11, 2012, 9:26 a.m. CST
What Star Wars fans don't seem to realize is that, on top of ruining Star Trek, JJ Abrams is
by Brian Hopper
bad at being a Star Wars fan. Case in point: When he Star Wars-ified Star Trek in 2009, he lifted one of the most maligned things in Return of the Jedi -- Lando's freaky WTF alien copilot Nien Nunb (still scratching my head over that character) -- and morphed him into Scotty's little alien monkey butler assistant. If you think about it, they're the same character in concept and almost in execution. I mean, if you're gonna steal something from Star Wars, at least steal something good. It's unimaginable the level of damage Abrams would do to the Star Wars franchise with his sophomoric mimicry of the originals. I just pray they hire someone with some actual talent who can do a NEW movie that stands on its own and is not some pale imitation of the originals.
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Duncan Jones
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need someone with a more classic shooting style to fit with the others. joe johnston or frank marshall come to mind, plus they know all the key players involved in the new one.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 10:29 a.m. CST
Duncan Jones is too good for Star Wars. He should direct UBIK
by Gorgomel
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Id love to see Spielberg direct, but George would be hovering over his shoulder fuckin shit up and he knows it. I sincerely hope that story control is out of Lucas' hands. It seems $4bil should at least buy that, but I get the feeling that Lucas wont let it go till they sue or pry it from his cold dead hands. I'll begin to feel 'A New Hope' for a new SW trilogy when I hear Lucas bitchin about being frozen out of pre-production and then getting barred from the set. Shut the fuck up George and fade into the background.
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It's startling that there isn't a wide consensus on this. MI4 was a mostly dull action film desperately trying to impress far too many demographics at once. It was cookie cutter and maybe just a notch above Transformers. MI3 is one of the most solid action films of the past decade and had genuine moments of tension and excitement. The bridge scene is the highlight of all the sequels and its trumped only by the first film's raid on the CIA headquarters. That JJ Abrams has turned Star Wars down suggests the scripts and treatments are either awful or far too removed from the original trilogy to be credible. Not a good sign at all.
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It suggests he wasn't offered the part. And I doubt he was. It will be Joe Johnston or Brad Bird because of the strong Lucas and Disney connections.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 1:22 p.m. CST
No, captionkirk Disney isn't buying Lucas' disinvolvement, they're buying Lucas' involvement.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 11, 2012, 1:26 p.m. CST
gmakin you don't know grit, if you think shiny, intellectually VAPID commercials like JJ Star Trek are gritty.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 11, 2012, 1:27 p.m. CST
buzz maverik are you Favreau or JJ?
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 11, 2012, 1:28 p.m. CST
buzz maverik or are you Whedon? How about Tori Spelling direct? She's a producer's kid.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Enough of this nonsense.
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Unfortunatly the jock analogy doesn't work because if you are to go back and read the most supportive positive reviews for Abrams Star Trek, they all come from the geek community. Look up the reviews posted at AICN, for example, all of them are extremely positive, there is not a single mixed one, they were all writen in extasy. Yeah. Lord Abrams rules the geekdom.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 2:17 p.m. CST
JJ Abrams "turning down" SW is him jusut making hard to get, so that he can negociate a better deal for him.
by albert comin
But SW can so easily fall on his lap. And frankly, i think it should.
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Abrams might have brough energy to Star Trek (depending of your definition of energy, but let's that one slide by), but certainly not grit. Of all the things you can say the movie has, grit is not one of them. I suspect you have not much understanding what grit means. If you want to see real grit in SF, watch things like The Terminator, that's grit. Abrams' ST has none of that. In fact, it's quite the opposite. Praise the movie for what it has, not for what it doesn't, that's the point of praising, anyway.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 2:24 p.m. CST
PROMETHEUS - A L l E N - A L (l) E N S...Is that the TRUE Alien Trilogy? Can someone help me out here?
by Darth_Kong
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Nov. 11, 2012, 2:31 p.m. CST
Actually I'll throw Abrams a bone here and I'll be FRANK and ERNEST. The only thing I would wet my pants over to see him direct is BEVERLY HILLS 90210 the movie...
by Darth_Kong
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No it's not, not if you have any respect for Alien and Aliens, anyway. But if you don't give a fuck about those two classics, then by all means put Prometheus in their company.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 2:36 p.m. CST
scirocco - C'mon man! I knew you'd bite. That was such easy bait. Remember when DARK HELMET said OH LOOK YOU FELL FOR THAT TOO!
by Darth_Kong
I just leave Alien 3 in an old dusty box. I probably won't ever watch Prometheus much anymore. Who knows. Leave it at that.
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Ignorantly, I thought selling for $4bil meant he had actually sold it. Perhaps if I could have stomached that posted interview clip with him I might have gotten that crucial piece of evidence. I was expecting Disney to nod politely for a month or so at his shit-stained treatments for the continuing saga then head off in a proper direction without his consent. He has nothing left to add to the franchise except misery and I cant see how any studio exec with half a brain could miss that. Im sure the new sequels can turn a profit no matter how craptacular they are, but Im completely turned off to them now. The guy seems a creative black whole that can suck anything good out of any creative storytelling.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 3:09 p.m. CST
I hope this isn't fast food. If everybody sees this once, it's not as good as a fanbase seeing it 4 times.
by bundle
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...the guy waving the flamethrower around started mumbling about 'contamination.' Worst storytelling Id seen in a long time with the most unbelievable character actions ever. It all came across as absurd avant garde. I hadnt seen scifi that stupid since I watched half of that movie where the mopy, borderline suicidal slacker 20-somethings were put in charge of a ship flying toward the sun with the task of saving the earth.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 3:28 p.m. CST
Just give one of them to Stuart Gordon. Space Truckers was cool enough. If he understands SQUARE PIGS he can grasp JEDI HOLOCRONS.
by Darth_Kong
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Nov. 11, 2012, 3:34 p.m. CST
I'd be up for a stage director doing it. I liked the stagey acting in Ep IV
by bundle
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Nov. 11, 2012, 3:38 p.m. CST
I thought the stagey greenscreen in the prequels was pretty cool.
by Darth_Kong
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Nov. 11, 2012, 3:41 p.m. CST
What about the guy who directed Disney's Aristocats? Is he busy? What's he doing? What's that? He's dead? Can't blame a guy for trying.
by Darth_Kong
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Nov. 11, 2012, 4:08 p.m. CST
Edgar Wright's movies are free of cynicism
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Joss Whedon... JJ Abrams... ehhh, not so much.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 4:11 p.m. CST
Tarantino is too self-absorbed to do anything but make love to his own ego...
by Dan
I love most of his movies, but he's not THAT good... Abrams revived TREK but changed it too much; ugly Enterprise design and the casting of Simon Pigg....
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Is as dumb as complaining about a movie being in black & white... so pathetic....no wonder half of you people hate your live's ! you are stuck in fucking rut!
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Nov. 11, 2012, 4:14 p.m. CST
Joe Cornish as well/ see ATTACK THE BLOCK if you don't think fun, Goonies-style adventure isn't possible in a post-digital world
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
It's a classic. I expect to see little kids at comic conventions ten years from now wearing ATTACK THE BLOCK t-shirts. It's sad that it didn't get the attention it deserved during release. Again, this is George Lucas coldly isolating himself from the magic and collaboration that made his films so great- http://globalspin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/george-lucas-now-and-then1-460x363.jpg
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Nov. 11, 2012, 4:15 p.m. CST
I wouldn't kill Uncle Luke off though until the SECOND FILM. Beginning of the Second Film. The Han's son is on his own which could be exciting. Again with the right story.
by Darth_Kong
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to regress and de-evolve with all of the technology and production values just because some fat, greasy losers can't recall the only non-shitty part of their worthless lives... get over it...it's not the tool to bitch about, but how it's used... do you think people in the 50's sat around and picked apart the "over" use of stop-motion effects in Harryhausen flicks? Get a fucking life.
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Name me one digital character who has been across the board beloved as ET, a lowly animatronics puppet. Name me one movie since the 90's with the impact of the handmade classics of the golden age of fantasy in the late 70's/ early 90's. Say Lord of the Rings and you'd be wrong. Lasting impact. Lord of the Rings and Pixar movies stop being discussed or talked about soon after their DVD releases. Contrast that to say.... Back to the Future? Or even a maligned rubber monster fest like The Monster Squad. Revival screenings, t-shirts, merchandise... I'm sure a lot of people are still buying LOTR Authentic Hair Shirts and shit, but yeah We're talking about handmade damn CLASSICS, that have achieved cult fervor because of the charm and seams and rough edges of a fucking MOVIE. Not a pixel cloud to dazzle the Nerd Brain. CGI has hurt the craft and engendered audience cynicism toward movies. We're still talking about people's feelings toward the STAR WARS PREQUELS here, right? That had nothing to do with over-reliance on CG? Right.....
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Nov. 11, 2012, 4:52 p.m. CST
I wish they'd get Fassbender to play an older Luke but I doubt that would ever happen.
by Darth_Kong
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Nov. 11, 2012, 4:53 p.m. CST
Actually the second film would be the darkest chapter, kill uncle Luke off at the end of 2.
by Darth_Kong
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Nov. 11, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST
The reboot is as controversial as midichlorians and Jar Jar on dedicated Trek boards.
by bundle
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Nov. 11, 2012, 4:56 p.m. CST
Fassbender with a lightsaber. Fassbender dies, Little Han now has a saber of his own.
by Darth_Kong
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What's the old proverbial phrase? Everything is relative. Currently I believe we're in a period similar to those in the 1920s during the inception of talkies, films utilizing new sound technology. Initially there was a resistance to the evolution of cinema, most likely associated with an innate fear of change and the subsequent loss of quality. I fear not CGI... In fact I think it's propelled us into new heights of artistic freedoms (See: TIN TIN). Problem is, douche bags like Michael Bay get a hold of it and make it into piles of shit instead of what it should be, an aid in creating whatever visuals the filmmaker imagines. Now that's not to say I fully support the freedoms CGI has given us. It's like the old Shark in Jaws problem. If Jaws was made today, all that suspense and fear of this unseen creature would have been completely nullified by the big floppy cgi cartoon all up in our faces and shit. What needs to be done is have more filmmakers show more restraint with the technology and stop throwing everything and the kitchen sink into these films these days God Damnit. As for CGI Creations that have become cherished household characters akin to Yoda and ET... I honestly don't know how little kids liked the movie, but if I was a little kid, TIN TIN would never leave my BluRay Player. Reboot comes to mind although that wasn't a movie, same with Beast Wars. Two shows that broke ground on the front of full CG cartoons and are highly regarded. Uh... I'm guessing maybe the big squid dude from pirates is also very memorable. Hulk as well. Can't hate CGI for giving us the opportunity to finally get him on screen really. A body builder in green paint can only go so far...
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Nov. 11, 2012, 4:58 p.m. CST
THANK FUCK! JJ Abrams has confirmed he won't direct it.
by kwisatzhaderach
Thank the maker!
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Nov. 11, 2012, 5:01 p.m. CST
Any Italian western directors working? The guy who did Tombstone died I see :(
by bundle
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Nov. 11, 2012, 5:26 p.m. CST
Thank God that POS hack Tarantino doesn't want to do Star Wars.
by thecat
He's made a handful of good movies and the rest were shit. He thinks he's so hip about pop culture and shoving titles and names in everyone's face but no shit. he's fan from the only one that likes grindhouse, cult, etc. He's a little weaselly ass, let him go direct his next bomb.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 5:29 p.m. CST
Dear God, why the hell to people still listen to JAZZ?? Why do people perform RADIO PLAYS, or go to DRIVE IN movies?
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Because those mediums are nurturing to the human imagination, and despite the consume-and-discard nature of our society toward these artforms, those -archaic- ways of telling stories are still beloved by millions with new works being made eternally to be performed on those platforms. Contrast that with the almost 100 percent loss of animation and practical-effects based films in America, and you hardly hear a peep from audiences in protest. Students and rebels, and Bill Plympton, toiling away in the dark for the film festival circuit and their own satisfaction. and going to the movies in 2012 has become less special, if you don't agree to that you are either lying to yourself or you really just like Mountain Dew Full Throttle. Believe it or not, people still like to play PRETEND with their movies, they still like to marvel at CRAFT on display, and if there's one thing I've heard from Ray Harryhausen that made a lot of sense, it was -Look at the interaction that's being lost. Look at the faith that audiences had to instill in my creations to make them real. Like children. Today's movies do everything for them.- That theater of the mind participation is almost lost when you make CGI the predominant storytelling vehicle. Not to mention the TOTAL loss of cel animation, and five Disney Channels, Sprout and Nickelodeon all offloading almost nothing but cheap plastic CG shows to babysit our kids. There is no WE'RE GOING TO SEE SNOW WHITE THIS WEEKEND, KIDS!!! That world is totally lost.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 5:37 p.m. CST
To be fair, I thought Tin Tin and the Star Wars prequels were pretty wonderful
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
How was TinTin's box office? The shuttering of the mo-cap studios really broke my heart, though. BEOWULF showed great promise, for the artform itself, and also for the possible resurgence of vintage 70's stoneranimation. Adult Swim ratings have shown that adult animation for drug fiends is HUGELY economically viable. Sadly, very little in that vein has made it to screens. I wish the execs had had the balls to make a full hand drawn SMURFS movie though, a real epic fantasy using the Peyo stories, and Hanna Barbera characters... Sadly, what we got is Katy Perry... and you're just gonna see more of that unless people start to actually speak the fuck up.
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I haven't seen it since I was a kid on VHS, but Regarding Henry was dope. A great movie, but granted, this is the 16-year-old me talking. Never watched Felicity. ALIAS was camp/ spy gold, and LOST was the closest America TV screens have seen to the Golden Age of ROD SERLING, psychedelic paperback sci-fi. It's his total flimsy cardboard reality in things like ALCATRAZ, REVOLUTION, SUPER8 and STAR TREK which make me think he's the worst kind of yuppie filmmaker, milking old tropes and manipulating people with paper-thin TV characterizations. When I hear JJ talk in interviews I want to slap him, there is so much movie exec smirk lurking in his mouth.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 5:58 p.m. CST
Pixar and Disney have gone a great way to devalue animation and human cinema in general.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
I would rather see kids growing up in a world that looks more like This- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3097/2777355890_00fcf48c58_z.jpg?zz=1 Than THIS- http://a.dolimg.com/en-US/disneyjunior/media/558x422/pro_djr_yohosummer2012_whichcharacterWeek12_558.jpg And that's just the fuckin' reality.
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I think when we say Star Wars it's a genre of its own. It's a war/martial-arts/action/adventure/monster/sci-fi/fantasy/family/drama/love story, it even has ghosts. There's nothing like it. That's what he meant.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 6:21 p.m. CST
Simon West is the director! Tarantino was telling you right in your face!
by wadi77
I hope not!
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Regarding Henry is a movie that sings the praises of being a retard. Abrams and his anti-intellectualisms, hem? Lost should be in a dictionary as perfect description of over-rated tothe point of absurdity. All that kudos that show gets all it does it to make people unaware of much better shows which didn't lasted as long. Again, another example of bad that overshadows much better. Otherwise, yeah, i agree with you, Abrams always come across as smug and used cars saleman in interviews, a bit of a phoney who seems to always be playing an angle. Basically, he never comes across as honest. Many have been seduced by his personality style. I am not one of those. In fact, the more i learn about him, the less i like him. But he would be perfect for the new SW movies to be. Yeah.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 6:30 p.m. CST
Lucas and Taranatino are both masters at stealing their influence from different sources, disguising them/ and belding genres in a way that's almost invisible.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
and that's part of the genius of this thing we call POP. something Lucas had in common with Henson was hiring GREAT storytellers and designers to complete the vision... both had expansive ideas about myth and story, but needed writers to bridge the gap and bring the whole thing together. QT citing Simon West was probably his way of expressing the mentality in Hollywood, which is to manipulate, and hoodwink, and grab the money quick. Mayhem and explosions, 3D glasses optional.
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I also want to forget that Prometheus exists. Worst waste of a wet and naked Charlize Theron doing push ups ever.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 6:34 p.m. CST
scirocco - Please. Call me Darth Kong. Mr. Darth Kong is my father.
by Darth_Kong
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Nov. 11, 2012, 6:35 p.m. CST
People hated LOST for the same reason they hated PROMETHEUS
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
old-school sixties paperback sci fi, that is more about themes, asking questions and psychedelic consciousness than it is about handing out easy answers. the things that made LOST so compelling to me were the things that weren't on screen, Jim Jones and the People's Temple, EST, L Ron Hubbard, and school of science fiction storytelling that owes more to Rod Serling and Pierre Boulle than your average fanboy's wet dream of a Jim Cameron AVATAR type -event movie- having said all that... to each their own....
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Nov. 11, 2012, 6:39 p.m. CST
People hated Prometheus because it just wasn't very good
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar....
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Nov. 11, 2012, 6:40 p.m. CST
Chewie fulfilled his life debt. protecting Han's son and it's off to lift boulders with Uncle Luke on Tatooine or Dagobah. I don't care which.
by Darth_Kong
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Nov. 11, 2012, 6:44 p.m. CST
asimov/scirocco - giving you one more chance to come clean
by This_is_the_Zodiac_speaking
I'll give you one more post. Better make it a good one. Tell #3: Hem?
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Here's Jon Spaihts' original script. It's definitely the real deal. He has confirmed its validity on twitter. http://www.prometheus-movie.com/uploads/112142280-Alien-Engineers.pdf
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Nov. 11, 2012, 6:59 p.m. CST
Seriously, who would want to direct EPVII? It would be like trying to coach under Jerry Jones.
by SunTzu77
Not pleasant.
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Forget that he hasn't scripted a movie that would play at Comiccon. Consider the amount of characters present in both Little Miss Sunshine and Toy Story 3. Each character was well defined with strengths and weaknesses. Each character had a unique voice and sense of humor. Both scripts have genuinely tense moments, sad moments, solid jokes, and a Tom of heart. He understands how to keep things moving and his character archs are tight with good thematic endings. In short, he's a still relatively young pro that other pros recognized right away and that's reflected in 2 Oscsar noms for writing. He was my second choice after Whedon. We should be losing our minds right now because Star Wars has always only been as good as its scripts. ANH is the spec script. It's the only standalone. Kasdan branched out and added new layers of darkness and mythology with Empire. ROTJ is the beginning of George really aiming for kids and beyond all the Vader/emperor/Luke scenes is basically the beginning of the decline. The prequels were poorly written with only ROTS having enough mythology and dramatic turns to remind us what the point of going back was in the first place. I'm far more pumped with Arndt on board than I was before. Finally, we're going to have a good screenplay again!
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Nov. 11, 2012, 7:25 p.m. CST
Arndt is ok as a structural engineer, but the plot, heart and soul better be all Lucas.
by bundle
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Nov. 11, 2012, 7:48 p.m. CST
Google 'Toy Story 3 steals from Brave Little Toaster'
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
'best original screenplay'? I don't fucking think so.
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both sets of protagonists mistakenly believe that they have outlived their usefulness and are destined for the trash heap, which they nearly are. The protagonists in both films are miraculously saved from certain destruction by the Brave Little Toaster (demonstrating its bravery) and by the deus ex machina of the Pizza Planet aliens operating "the claw" in The Brave Little Toaster and Toy Story 3, respectively. In both films the protagonists finding that they aren't worthless after all. The Brave Little Toaster, et al, join their master, Rob and his shapely female companion (presumably his girlfriend) on his journey off to college. In Toy Story 3, the toys' owner, Andy introduces his toys to a new owner upon whom they can refocus their adoration.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 7:51 p.m. CST
Again. I GIVE YOU MICHAEL ARNT'S DAZZLING SHANIA TWAIN CARGO HAT
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2304487168/nm1578335
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Nov. 11, 2012, 8:13 p.m. CST
The hat is bad. If I were Larry David, that would be grounds for termination. I'm convinced he's just a frontman.
by bundle
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Nov. 11, 2012, 8:26 p.m. CST
Looks like you're right. Censored by Disney. I seem to remember Toaster being an independent film picked up by Disney for distribution. I've never bothered with the sequels.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20brave%20little%20toaster -This was the first animated film to be shown at Sundance Film Festival.- You go, plucky little unsung movie you. They can filch the goodness from your precious handmade heart, but you will not be forgotten.
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Nov. 11, 2012, 8:29 p.m. CST
besides, I thought Toy Story was written, by like, 8 dudes, like yr average episode of Home Improvement. (Itself a treasured Disney property and beloved by Moms)
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Joss Whedon worked on the first one. By the same token, as written by committee movies go, would have been neat to see what Whedon's Titan AE script would have looked like had it been un-fucked-up with.
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I've always found scirroco's manner of address peculiar to mildly annoying. That was a hilarious response. LMAO!!
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Nov. 11, 2012, 10:07 p.m. CST
What about other crew? A designer should already been hired in project like this
by wadi77
They did designs months before the script completed for Episode I
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Nov. 11, 2012, 10:14 p.m. CST
Isn't Brave Little Toaster by Lasseter? Can you steal from yourself? All Toy Story movies have a lot from Brave Little Toaster in them.
by hank henshaw
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Nov. 11, 2012, 10:15 p.m. CST
never mind, while the movie is by Lasseter, but it's based on a novel for children.
by hank henshaw
My bad.
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If McCallum is still around I imagine he will be working non the TV series. Maybe Kathleen Kennedy's associates, or could it be Frank Marshall?
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He did it for ROTJ and TESB
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He did it for ROTJ and TESB
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He did it for ROTJ and TESB
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That post shows up 3 times, gotta mean something, Jedi mind trick?
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Nov. 11, 2012, 10:45 p.m. CST
Re: me - I meant gritty rather than grit. Star Trek (2009) was more gritty than the SW prequels and Indy 4. Less green screen, fights that hurt, cynical characters, etc.
by Gary Makin
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Nov. 11, 2012, 10:46 p.m. CST
John Williams is waaaay more important than who they choose as the director. No John Williams, no magic. Using his themes doesn't even count.
by bundle
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Nov. 11, 2012, 10:49 p.m. CST
Lasseter pitched the film and had a hand in it, but a small one, according to published credits on IMDB. Rights were then purchased by Disney, who promptly buried it in re-runs on cable television.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
People calling Toy Story 3 a 'brilliant subversive film' obviously don't recognize the germ of those stories, another 'brilliant, subversive film' made with a cast of great handwoven characters, who ironically themselves ended their journey mostly forgotten in VHS bargain bins... much like the narrative that TS3 so crassly plagiarized. My issue is with Pixar grabbing an Oscar for Best Original Screenplay while never once copping to a single news outlet the debt owed to them by that original film (considered a cult classic in some circles.)
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Nov. 11, 2012, 10:49 p.m. CST
wadi77 I believe in one of the articles (maybe the Disney conference call) they've been designing it for at least 6 months?
by bundle
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Nov. 11, 2012, 10:53 p.m. CST
gmakin Prequels had the Jedi mafia. Definite Coppola influence in the Jedi council.
by bundle
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I'm out of it for a little while, and everyone gets delusions of grandeur!
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Nov. 11, 2012, 11:39 p.m. CST
I couldn't care less about Leia but they could age Keira Knightly for the role. What did Ice Cube say in Boyz in the Hood, Ho's gotta eat too!
by Darth_Kong
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Nov. 12, 2012, 12:54 a.m. CST
Disney owned Miramax when Pulp Fiction was made...
by RedwingsHoolihan
Don't know why Tarantino is knocking Disney, when he's made films for them before.
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BUT SAD. The message they had and the tone to the films, had light moments, and some comedy, but dealt with serious deep emotional sadness. That's all well and good, but man, I am looking for a movie that is going to entertain and make me care about the characters, I don't want to lament the whole thing. I don't want to leave the theatre feeling sad about the Star Wars Universe. PLEASE ENTERTAIN US, make us care about the characters and the things they are saying and doing, but I am sorry I don't need any more downers. I don't need to be SAD anymore. PLEASE!!!! GIVE ME SOME HOPE!!! Please understand folks, I don't want mindless FX with no story or Baysplosions, I just want some damn fun and story driven excitement that makes me care about the characters and if they can make it through tough challenges. I don't want to weep for the Storm Troopers. PLEEAASSE!!!!
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While ROTJ was a thrill of my young life, I appreciate your candor and writing - I shall agree to disagree, and continue to value your opinion as always.... (My current distaste for ROTJ is due to Lucas's choice to insert the abominable Hayden and Narada sampler music into the ending sequence) I, too, think JJ would be an excellent choice.
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He's got the chops, the required level of geekiness, and, most importantly with this franchise, a real sense of fun. It wouldn't happen in a million years though .
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Nov. 12, 2012, 4:27 a.m. CST
I wonder why 20th century fox didnt put up more of a fight
by emeraldboy
to prevent this saga from being sold. I think there is a story there...
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I call everybody here "Mr", except the ladies for obvious reasons. Even the people i don't like and grew antipathy in my dealings with them in here. It's out of respect which i beleived is due to everybody in here, and also my way to control my natural born bad temper and inner anger, which i vowed to put a hold on. I'm now old enough to not have excuses for bad temper and lack of manners.
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Say bye-bye now.
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There's really not much Fox could have done but begged. They have no say in what Lucas does with his baby. Besides, listening to what George said about Disney being the proper steward and protector of Star Wars, why on Earth would he offer anything at all to Fox? Look at what they chronically do to the properties they own and to the filmmakers they hire. Fuck a bunch of that.
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Yeah, no. How did Quentin Tarantino even get mentioned or considered for a STAR WARS movie anyway? It's not his genre at all. And Zach Snyder? I'm breathing a sigh of relief that this won't happen. But, Steven Spielberg? Come on, man, this is where you shine as a director. I guess he got it out of his system with the few scenes that he directed in Episode III. Hopefully, he'll change his mind later on in the series.
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Like it or not, Red Tails was just a training. Given a good script he could be something.
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ep 1-6 dealt w/the rise and fall of Palpatine, as well as Anakin's story. Once Palp is dead what's the story supposed to be? some random villain of the week? Lame..
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Nov. 12, 2012, 7:23 a.m. CST
The villain will be PAPRIZZIO PUPPENTA - the half italian half greek shirtless Sith
by Ricardo
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lil miss sunshine sucked my balls
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Nov. 12, 2012, 8:37 a.m. CST
Darth_Kong: There IS no Alien Trilogy. There are only Alien and Aliens. By the way, are you the master, or the apprentice?
by tom
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Nov. 12, 2012, 8:55 a.m. CST
Just want to repeat what someone wrote above: Mark Cuban got $5.7 BILLION for broadcast.com from Yahoo
by Autodidact
broadcast.com now redirects to yahoo.com. I wonder who feels stupider the guys at Yahoo who decided to buy broadcast.com, or the guys at Time-Warner who decided to merge with AOL.
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Nov. 12, 2012, 9:11 a.m. CST
Halo 4 look better than starwars. All of them. And Prometheus. And pretty much any science fiction looking thing ever done.
by UltraTron
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Some men just want to watch the Internet burn. That would be me. If Nolan ever decided to take on this task, it would break the Web.
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Nov. 12, 2012, 9:36 a.m. CST
The villian for the film should be the Emperor's head attached to Darth Maul's legs.
by Drew
They have been hiding since the end of ROTJ.
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Like someone from Pixar slept with your mother or something. Give it up man. Toy Story 3 bears a surface area resemblance to Brave Little Toaster. That's all.
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Gungans Meet the Ewoks and explore the deep mysteries of midochlorians. Through song. And hilarious hijinks. Can I get a Yipeeee!?
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...as if a million fanboys cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
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Nov. 12, 2012, 1:04 p.m. CST
playerhater_of_the_year Minimalize all you want, Lucas packed the prequels with dread and evil.
by bundle
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oh they were definitely dreadful, you're dead on there.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YynloCjdM
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Nov. 12, 2012, 1:45 p.m. CST
Dread and Evil in the prequels? You mean "Bob Dread" and "Doug Evil", Lucasarts extras?
by Darth Macchio
Cause while I see the dark tone he said these movies would have from the beginning, most of the "dark tone" parts we're actually unintentionally funny. The whole Anakin/Palpatine/Windu betrayal/allegiance scene is an exercise in unintentional hilarity. I couldn't tell if "newly evilized" Palpatine was hungry or just wanted to have sex with Anakin the way he closed his eyes and savored that moment. That's the demeanor of someone who just finished off some great bar-b-que or some wholly creepy, 'too much info' self-congratulatory sex, not someone who just established his people's dominance on the galaxy for a generation. Lucas may as well have had him rub his hands together and twist his mustache while laughing manically. At least it wouldn't have looked like some weird, bad-not-good pervert, german sex tape scene. Yes, yes...he wanted them dark and filled with dread. Too bad he doesn't know what dread and evil are anymore. I'm not making light or trying to hate here...you want darkness? Try the Emperor's rant againt Luke and his "pitiful band" from Jedi. You want dread? Try Tarkin's dialog with Leia just prior to Alderaan's destruction. Corny or not, tarzan yodel or not, ANH and Jedi earned all of those moments (some of my favorites bits are from the throne room in RotJ - some of the best moments of the OT are in those scenes) None of the dread and darkness was remotely earned in the prequels by Palpatine nor Anakin. It's a dead horse mate, there's no saving them as "great Star Wars worthy films"...they're not. Still enjoyable yes, good and even great here and there, but not worthy of what came before in terms of story.
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Nov. 12, 2012, 1:46 p.m. CST
I just went from loving star wars in my childhood to hating star wars for 7 years or so to loving star wars again for a week and now i hate it again
by Stephen
And they think they need to actually build physical roller coasters out of this shit.
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Nov. 12, 2012, 2:17 p.m. CST
If the prequels came out in the 80s, same movies, there'd be no haters.
by bundle
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why in flaming fuck would you cast Fassbender as an older Luke? Luke Skywalker is played by Mark Hamill and the only reason to do otherwise would be if Hamill was the wrong age or if he was dead. He is neither.
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Nov. 12, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST
Genndy Tartakovsky should direct he made the only thing that didnt suck from the prequels
by and
the 2d clone wars were so awesome let him go crazy on star wars
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Nov. 12, 2012, 3:05 p.m. CST
All talkbackers must read this Onion article before posting from now on
by Bedhead7
http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-on-personal-mission-to-explain-why-univer,29922/
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Nov. 12, 2012, 3:13 p.m. CST
bedhead7 good to know that news sites are helping that guy's mission
by Stephen
can we donate? I would like to donate to that guy's cause.
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It needs a sound story with a smart beginning to kick it off.
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Nov. 12, 2012, 3:25 p.m. CST
as long as C3P0 gets reset and thinks he's spanish then I'm good
by Stephen
barf
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i can see elements of a great movie in all 3 prequels. and i really do wish they did for me what they did for you. even after decades, the original trilogy still has the effect on me that the prequel trilogy appears to have on you. and that is purely kick ass. not sure if you saw the OT in the theater but, for me, nothing in an 'entertainment' context can compare to the whole Star Wars experience at the time. i wish i felt the same even a little bit with the prequels and could get past the stuff i cannot get past to enjoy the movie that you enjoyed. i really do. what reason would any of us have to feel otherwise? i earn no points of merit by attacking these films and only the truly asshattiest of us on here think anybody else actually keeps track of their "witty take downs" of movies they pan. but i disagree with your take that if these movies came out in the 80s there'd be no haters. i clearly recall people hating on ewoks and the "yum yum" dance in various fanzines post-jedi release, the whole "is vader your father?" craziness, etc, etc...even pre-internet, fans were just as rabid as they are today, pro or con. but no matter my griping, i'm not a hater. i always end my gripes with a "hope i'm wrong" or some variation. i *want* these to be great. but i will not embellish my reaction nor gin up my appreciation. i will also do my best to *not* fall prey to hype or expectation and will not dismiss the potential for that bias.
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if I had to choose between directing Star Wars and directing Superman I'd probably go completely insane from agonizing and waste both opportunities. In this way I am not like Zack Snyder. if I had to choose between being a douchebag and not being one I would choose to not be one. In this way I am not like Zack Snyder.
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Nov. 12, 2012, 3:52 p.m. CST
I say Guy Ritchie or Martin Campbell but I may be slightly unstable...
by jellypop
Anyone that directs this movie has to fuse a previous generations hopes together with a new brand of cinema goer that sadly has a zero attention span because the next quick fix is only a moment away. I fear that my children will not be able to look back on these new Star Wars adventures with the same affection that I did.
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The original idea as I understood it— and Lucas changes his mind off and on, so it may not be what he’s thinking right now – but it was going to be three generations. You’d have the original trilogy, then go back to Luke’s father and find out what happened to him [in the prequels], and if there was another 7th, 8th, or 9th film, it would be Luke’s children. The Thrawn Trilogy really would have fit into the gap,”
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Nov. 12, 2012, 5:07 p.m. CST
redwingshoolihan..Quentin is just Parroting his buddy Harvey Weinstein...
by conspiracy
...he is still pissy for no other reason than he feels Harvey got the Shaft by Dis years ago when Eisner was still the King there and being a child hasn't moved on... Fuck him anyway...the last thing I want is a douchy hipster Grindhouse Star Wars...
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Nov. 12, 2012, 5:12 p.m. CST
This movie will need a few lines of dialogue in the
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
beginning that negate the prequels as canon.
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Nov. 12, 2012, 6:37 p.m. CST
booger_t - Go meet him at the Starbucks in Malibu off PCH and let me know.
by Darth_Kong
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Nov. 12, 2012, 6:45 p.m. CST
If I sound bitter it's because there hasn't been a good animated film or sweeping tactile fantasy in like 15 years. The film landscape is pretty joyless and manipulative
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Ever since they gave all the nuts and bolts toymakers the shaft . Texture breath and handprints are still essential to good storytelling, whether people choose to ignore it or not http://globalspin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/george-lucas-now-and-then1-460x363.jpg
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Nov. 12, 2012, 6:48 p.m. CST
All those people you read about in Famous Monsters, Starlog, who inspired a million storytelling kids? Those guys couldn't even get WORK today.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Good luck for an aspiring Jim Henson/ a Walt Disney being born in today's world. Good fucking luck.
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Nov. 12, 2012, 6:57 p.m. CST
Little Miss Sunshine and Toy Story 3 are both movies that MOMS pick up at the grocery store. WON'T THIS JUST BE A CUTE MOVIE FOR MY FAMILY TO ENJOY. And you can say that about nearly every cartoon being released now
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Disney/ Pixar are product driven children's movies. This isn't LET'S ELEVATE AN ARTFORM, like it was under Walt Disney's aegis. This is, let's make a beach-pail-colored suburban cutefest that will play here or in the Philipines with the sound turned off. It's disgusting. And the main difference between Toy Story and Toaster is that the Toy Story toys are already-made commercial tie-in products meant to egender warmth, brand loyalty and move move those Happy Meal promotion. One was an indie film, and the other was a movie made on computers in a tightly controlled chaos-free environment to EXPLOIT the eccentricty and charm of the other one. What people know in their heart as Disney and now are readily willing to accept Because The Marketplace Offers NO Other Option.
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Nov. 12, 2012, 7:41 p.m. CST
WOW! Disney is planning to resurrect Darth Vader for the new Trilogy!
by ganymede3010
According to "a film mole".. “He’s an integral part of the franchise. Replacing him is virtually impossible. The plan is for him to return and play a significant role in the new films. This is science fiction remember, Darth Vader will rise from the ashes.” Read more at http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=69980#IsR3V5FivDs5YRxE.99
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Nov. 12, 2012, 7:43 p.m. CST
Replacing him is not Impossible, Grand Admiral Thrawn works!!!
by ganymede3010
However I must say It would be awesome to see and hear James Earl Jones voice Darth Vader again along with the timeless quotable dialogue.
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Nov. 12, 2012, 7:58 p.m. CST
Fincher would make the most sense and would give me a small glimmer of hope.
by SunTzu77
Fincher might dare to venture there - he did work on ROTJ as a youngin'. He and Lucas might have a relationship. I can definitely see him delivering a Kershner vibe. Kathy Kennedy did get him involved with GWTDT. http://blog.moviefone.com/2011/12/19/david-fincher-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-return-of-the-jedi-interview/ Whoever it is - it needs to be a strong strong director that can pull some solid performances out. Someone like Branagh could be intriguing. When he was chosen for "Thor" I immediately understood why they went there. I would stay far away from "The Thrawn Trilogy." Star Wars doesn't have to be Luke, Han, etc. It's such a large and rich universe. I would delve into a totally different storyline.
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or the director of The Artist
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Is the name of the Director of the Artist, it's a mouthful!
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If Williams doesn't sign up for this, I suggest Clint Bajakian, who brilliantly scored several LucasArts video games, notably Star Wars (Dark Forces and TIE Fighter) and Indiana Jones (The Infernal Machine and The Emperor's Tomb). The Emperor's Tomb had a live orchestra, but even the earlier MIDI-era game scores reveal the great potential he'd have to do a great Star Wars film score. He seamlessly meshes Williams' and his own original themes together, and his original themes are as bold and memorable as any that Williams has employed.
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The sith are supposedly gone. Now I know that in the EU the spirit of palpatine inhabits a cloned body and brings him back... Maybe that'll be a