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The Kidd Vs. SKYFALL


CASINO ROYALE may have been our introduction to Daniel Craig as James Bond.

QUANTUM OF SOLACE may have been… well, whatever the hell that was.

But SKYFALL is the film that finally cements Craig’s legacy as 007 and allows him to own a fraction of this much storied franchise. This is really the film that modernizes James Bond around Craig by using everything we’ve come to know in the first 50 years of the film series as a foundation to then transition into this sleeker, trimmer, more streamlined Bond for new audiences getting their first look at the character with the Craig model. This is the equivalent of J.J. Abrams’ take on STAR TREK – it’s not so much a reboot as it is using the past to help lay ground for a new future that both Bond fans old and new can identify, appreciate and support.

In this 23rd installment of James Bond, 007 is out chasing after a hard drive that contains a NATO list filled with identities of ever single agent embedded in terrorist organizations. Needless to say, if it fell into the wrong hands, that’d be a very bad thing for the world over and a scandal of epic proportions for MI6. Therefore, when it becomes possession of Raoul Silva (Javier Bardem), a dangerous figure from M’s past hellbent on revenge (Dame Judi Dench back in full force with more material than she’s had to work with in a Bond film before), it’s up to Bond to stop the spread of the list as he does best and protect his boss from the target firmly planted on her back.

However, unlike all previous Bond films, this is far less about the mission at hand for Bond, with Bardem’s villain almost entirely on the periphery in SKYFALL. Silva’s motivation for revenge is quite thin and barely enough to fill an entire Bond adventure as it is. And while you won’t find me climbing on the love train proclaiming SKYFALL to be the best Bond film ever, thematically it may just be the series’ most interesting, and that starts with Bardem and, furthermore, the relevance of Bond at this point in history.


Let’s start with Bardem, as his Silva represents the flip side of the coin to 007. This is a former MI6 agent who didn’t exactly part the intelligence organization on the best of terms. However, it’s his choices that make him who he is today, on the wrong side of the law. This could easily be James Bond, choosing to line up against the hero, using his training, his intelligence for personal gain, as opposed to protection of country, particularly when you factor in Bond’s near-death experience in the film’s action-packed opening sequence that came at the hands of M. Bond could turn his back on M, could turn his back on MI6, give into his feelings of betrayal to go into business for himself, or with Silva, or with any number of shady individuals… but he doesn’t. His nature remains true to itself. It doesn’t change perspective based on circumstance. So, while Silva may be a lesser threat than other Bond villains, it’s what he means in respect to who Bond is and who he could easily become that makes this relationship rather interesting.

As far as Bond goes, SKYFALL really digs into his importance in an ever-changing world, where the enemies of England or the United States or any number of countries is no longer so clearly defined. Countries aren’t necessarily at war with each other… but that doesn’t mean there aren’t individuals who have stepped into fill that void in the inevitable grab for power that exists among mankind. So how do we combat these unsavory characters and their groups or their cells or their organizations? How do we infiltrate al-Qaeda or the Asian Dawn movement? With individuals of our own… intelligence analysts and field operatives and spies and James Bond. The rules may have changed, but the game is still the same, and the tools that have been used over the years with the best results are still the best we have at our disposal.

That doesn’t mean there aren’t miles on the James Bond model. It may be a bit old-fashioned, something we’re reminded time and time again throughout SKYFALL, but it’s still reliable. The film provides nods upon nods to the James Bond we’ve come to know and love, be it his classic Aston Martin or the gadgets we’ve come to expect from Q (Ben Whishaw this time around). Those are from a different time in Bond’s history – be it Connery, Lazenby, Moore, Dalton or Brosnan. They’re nice memories, but they really have a diminishing place in the more reality-driven world of Daniel Craig’s 007. What SKYFALL really has to say is that James Bond is the constant. At his core, he will remain the same, even as the world transforms around him, with SKYFALL being a pretty clear transition from old Bond to new.


Sam Mendes has pieced together a new vision for Bond that may have actually played better as the introduction to Craig’s Bond than CASINO ROYALE did. While CASINO ROYALE went a long way in re-establishing 007 for us, SKYFALL goes even further in exploring a bunch of new elements in Bond’s world, specifically MI6, for his stretch of films moving forward. This is the real passing of the torch from Brosnan to Craig.

SKYFALL is without a doubt the most beautiful Bond film in the catalog, with director of photography Roger Deakins easily lining himself up for some recognition from the Academy here. There seems to be an endless array of scenes that just look gorgeous from a sexy shower scene to a silhouetted fight to the beautiful Scottish countryside to… well, if I named them all, I’d basically be running down the whole film for you. So not only do you have SKYFALL as the most intriguing thematically, it’s also the best looking. Sounds like a pretty stellar Bond film to me.

This is much more of a character study of Bond, and, if committed to the page, could certainly be confused with a thesis on the role of James Bond in the 21st Century.  There certainly is enough action to satisfy your hunger for those big set pieces in a Bond film, but this is a bit different look at Bond than we’ve gotten before. It is a fascinating examination of 007 that sets up the future for Daniel Craig in the role for a long, long time. 


-Billy Donnelly

"The Infamous Billy The Kidd"

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  • Nov. 8, 2012, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Can't Wait to See If It's Better Than Casino Royale

    by Crow3711

    Tough to beat, at least in my opinion. I know I'm gonna love skyfall, but will I LOVE it?

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 4:44 p.m. CST


    by Umney

    Seeing this with a girl on saturday. Can't wait.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Awesome; is it tomorrow, yet!!!?????

    by Matthew Schlotman

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 4:54 p.m. CST

    long clip:

    by julia

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Bondage - and QoS

    by dude_gimme_tabs

    Quantum Of Solace is important. It separates people. Anyway, Skyfall......... Minor Spoilers.....<p> To clarify some of the points in the film before any whining:<p> It is very important that people don't fall into a trap when viewing. From another SF thread:<p> It is not Bond who is considered old, weathered and past his best in Skyfall. This is the mistake people make when they talk about this film.<p> What is questioned is the whole system of field operations with people with guns in a far off countries shooting at things. <p> After all, as Q points out, he can do more damage in ten mins with a laptop than Bond can in ten years with his gun. <p> It was M's place in this new world as a believer in the need for 'the old ways' that was challenged as out of place, not Bond personally. <p> He is just the extension of her belief in the need for direct action sometimes. <p> Of course Bond is mentally and physically broken but that is due to the events of the opening sequence and his subsequent time out of the game. He is never too old or too unneeded in the eyes of M or the audience. <p> This is not GoldenEye. <p> And it's still the same 007 as CR and QoS. If it moves chronologically then he got his OO in 2006. QoS was directly afterwards. Then this is 2012. So 6 years, 2x 'Big' missions a year. <p> This is just his 3rd 'Televised' mission. There have been plenty more, as demonstrated when we join him in the middle of an on-the-go mission. <p> Really importantly, this is clearly the end of the 3 film Bond Begins arc, as demonstrated by the care taken in the final shot to show a OO7 in the leather panelled office, M and Moneypenny in situ, having an Eyes Only file handed to him and acknowledging there is work to do. <p> Can't wait to see Craig's Bond now let loose in the Bond Universe that will be the same, but different.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 4:56 p.m. CST

    This film is the most stylish Bond so far for sure.

    by Gary Makin

    But we don't need to infiltrate al-Qaeda; they're run by the CIA.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Loved it. Craig is the best since Connery - perhaps even better.

    by Shaun D Lyons

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 5:07 p.m. CST

    This looks great, can't wait to see it this weekend

    by lv_426

    I hope it is as good as everyone who is raving about it says it is. Casino Royale is a bit overrated too. QoS is not as bad as everyone makes it out to be.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 5:11 p.m. CST


    by dude_gimme_tabs

    You are sooo right about QoS. Everyone should dig out their DVD an re-watch it. Stripped out angry rattlesnake of a film that moves like a bullet and serves Casino Royale well.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Asian Dawn. I read about them in TIME magazine.

    by lv_426

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 5:16 p.m. CST

    I still don't see these as a re-boot or re-imagining

    by Rowsdower.ZabRowsdower

    Consider this: We are introduced to Judy Dench as "M" with Brosnan's Bond. She admonishes him in her office after he makes a comment about her predecessor. She calls him a "mysoginist dinosaur." Very clearly here, we have established for us, the audience, that she's the new head honcho after Bernard Lee and Robert Brown's turns as "M." Okay. No big deal, right? Well, if this is a re-boot of sorts, then why is Dench still with us as "M"? I believe it's because the name travels with the number. It would be arrogant and dismissive for the companies in control of the Bond legacy to pretend that the Cold War era Bond never happened. This is why, I believe, they gave us a new Bond out on his first official mission as a double-o. Makes sense, too, to use Casino Royale as the setting as this was Fleming's first novel and we, aside from the spoof version, had never seen Bond in that setting. Look, he's a super-adept badass spy... that doesn't mean that age or an unlucky bullet never catches up to them. Therefore: code number carries with it a code name, there are and have been many Bonds. Not a re-boot. Just a theory.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 5:22 p.m. CST


    by dude_gimme_tabs

    That's an interesting theory that is frequently floated. However the producers have always maintained that the 007 as a code-name approach is wrong. Same Bond, just timelessly adapted.<p> Basically, in 007, continuity is just a suggestion rather than a fact.<p> Re: Dench in DAD then CR. They just had an amazing actress, so wanted to keep her.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 5:23 p.m. CST

    umney ? A real girl?

    by Nichole

    How did you pull that one out? Please, tell the rest of us what that experience is like :) Skyfall looks Great!

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 5:28 p.m. CST


    by dude_gimme_tabs

    I thought I had a movie called Asian Dawn. Turns out I was getting 'Red Dawn' and 'No Mans Land: Asian Edition' all mixed up.<p> In my defence, I was really drunk...... It was dark...

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 5:33 p.m. CST

    there is a tombstone in the skyfall lodge that says:

    by julia

    in memory of andrew BOND and monique delacroix. so with that the producers put the code theory to rest. but i'm still a fan of that theory anyways.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 5:37 p.m. CST

    James Bond is not a code name. I'm sick of hearing this.

    by DonLogan

    Is this thought up by people who are too short sighted to see a character played by different actors? James Bond is not a codename passed on to different agents. If that was the case, do each of the James Bonds coincidently like vodka martinis shaken not stirred and chasing girls? Wouldn't foreign agents have cracked the code decades ago and be following any idiot named James Bond? Is it therefore, a pre-requisite for each bond candidate to have lost a wife? Such an incident has been mentioned involving at least 4 Bonds. There is plenty of evidence to put this daft theory to bed for once and for all although I read somewhere Lee Tamahori was convinced this was the case when he made Die Another Day.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 5:42 p.m. CST

    That's funny. I just got finished watching...

    by phifty2

    ...Dookie Blaster Vol. 8: Power to the Pooper I wasn't even that lost having not seen volumes 6 and 7.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 5:46 p.m. CST

    @Umney, a girl? Good for you dog, wish I could say the same!

    by notcher

    I'll be that creepy dude in the theater by myself dreaming of being a secret agent man. BRING IT!

  • most overrated, most over-hyped Bond movies ever made. It really boggles my mind that the film critics and the fans have praised it as the best Bond movie in the series which revitalized the franchise. But i guess that's how marketing and promotion is working these days. Lesson learned: never trust noone. Only listen to your opinion and instinct. 2012 seems to be the year with the most disappointing, over-hyped blockbuster movies in the recent time. Prometheus, TDKR, Skyfall, all of them are mediocre movies which don't deserve at all the praise that they are getting. And for which, it clearly showcases that the intelligent,quality entertaining cinema in Hollywood, is down in the drain. Let's hope that Hobbit won't become another disastrous disappointment, i had it enough with all those so-called masterpieces this year.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 5:59 p.m. CST

    oh and Brad Bird >>> Sam Mendes

    by frank

    despite its flaws, Bird's MI4 is 10 levels above the mediocrity that is Mendes' Skyfall. I really really hope that Bird will get to direct Star Wars because the guy is one of the most talented,skilled and capable directors of pulling this enormous task off.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 6:09 p.m. CST

    Best Bond yet...I'd say so.

    by elgato73

    It's story had me riveted and Bardem's Silva maybe the greatest Bond villain ever--absolute chaos and he's got the balls to back it up. The guy is like the Joker for the Bond series. Craig is at his absolute best here as Bond, finding himself at a crossroads in his life as MI-6 field operative and assassin, not trusting anyone including himself to make things right. He's desperate and backed into a corner and Craig makes you realize that Bond is not Superman. He's real flesh and bone and can be hurt both physically, psychologically and emotionally. And Dench--give her an Oscar nom. Her and Craig's mother/son relationship is on full display here and it is terrifically scripted. They need each other and have mutual respect even when the job gets in the way. And Craig's Bond love for this woman below the surface coupled with his past and what she did for him, makes that final scene between them that more effective and utterly morose. I cried for Bond losing this woman. She's been more than a boss to him over the years. And finally, the old is very, very new again. Moving from MI-6 headquarters back to the old Universal Exports style office with Fiennes new M in charge is PERFECT. You want to run clandestine ops with no one knowing in this world. Run it from an unassuming old style British building in the middle of London where no one would look with only secretary Eve Moneypenny and one VIP in an office. No body else. PERFECT.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 6:10 p.m. CST

    James Bond IS a code name

    by Mattman

    It's the only way to explain why different actors have played the roll yet have the same name. Also, Batman is a code name. And so is Bruce Wayne. They're all different people, in fact, who have all had their wealthy parents murdered in Gotham City. Derp.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 6:13 p.m. CST

    A L I E N > P R O M E T H E U S > A L I E N S > A L I E N 3

    by Nichole

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 6:13 p.m. CST

    My problem with MI4 is...

    by Terry Powell

    ...just like Skyfall(which I haven't seen yet, it was overhyped. Everyone talked about how great it was. But I watched it in a marathon with the others this summer, and to me, it was slightly dissappointing following the intense MI3. Especially comparing PS Hoffman's truly scary villain with the bad guys of MI4. And the skyscraper scene that I figured would have to be amazing, and it was in a lot of ways, but was a letdown. I expected a truly suspenseful moment(I mean Cruise himself hanging from the tallest building in the world, awesome) but they played it too much for laughs.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 6:17 p.m. CST

    BB=TDK=TDKR All Good

    by Nichole

    Skyfall- have not seen it.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 6:17 p.m. CST

    "the rules may have changed, but the game is the same"...

    by ponyboy

    that line makes me laugh every time MacGruber says it.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Cat>dog. But you can get that brain suicide thing.

    by UltraTron

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 6:41 p.m. CST

    Skyfall is great saw it on IMAX today...

    by Andrew Coleman

    It's really good. Kind of what Quantum should have been. I don't hate on QOS but now with the three Daniel Craig flicks it's for sure in the third spot. Skyfall is a powerful movie it really is. "James Bond" isn't a code name. It doesn't make any sense to think these movies all line up. To me they are in different universes. Different tales of James Bond. In Craig's... Quantum is Spectre. Spectre never existed in the Craig Bond world. If you want to think of James Bond like XXX(does anyone even remember that "franchise" anymore?) that's fine but you're wrong.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 6:41 p.m. CST

    World War Z trailer up on itunes

    by D o o d

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 6:51 p.m. CST

    ultratron ?

    by Nichole

    Is that supposed to be a complete sentence? Or, even a complete thought? Ok then.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 6:53 p.m. CST


    by frank

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 6:59 p.m. CST

    ultratron about those Subway sandwiches.

    by frank

    your opinion on the matter?

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 7 p.m. CST


    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 7:02 p.m. CST


    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    Skyfall is only an average Bond. The praise it's getting is absurd. I can guarantee its stock will fall ...oh, once the next Bond comes out. Then everyone will say that that's the best ever. And they'd be wrong. Again.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 7:03 p.m. CST

    cavejohnson? So, what exactly do you think is not shit.

    by Nichole

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 7:04 p.m. CST

    turd_is_floating_underneath_the_gravy, Untrue, but funny :)

    by Nichole

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 7:12 p.m. CST


    by MainMan2001

    its pretty clear you have zero clue of what your talking about. loser

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 7:25 p.m. CST

    Turd thank you thank you.

    by frank

    that's why i admired you in aicn all these years. because you always speak the truth. and the truth in this case, as correctly you pointed out,is: CR>SF>QOS. thank you again.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 7:25 p.m. CST


    by RipperGiles

    Executive producers Barbara Broccolli, Michael G. Wilson and the writers of the various Bond pictures have to explain NOTHING about the changes in actor. The less said the better in that regard. It's just an artistic choice that happens outside of the realm of the film. To explain why different men have played Bond is ludicrous and would only bog down a story. For fifty years the franchise has thrived (well, except for "Moonraker") without the need to explain why Bond is Sean connery, then George Lazenby, then Sean Connery again, then Roger Moore, then Timothy Dalton, then Pierce Brosnan, then Daniel Craig. This NEED for people to have every piddly little piece of shit explained is tiresome.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 7:29 p.m. CST

    mainman2001 i do know what i am talking about.

    by frank

    i can pinpoint the problems with Skyfall while laughing at them. but you know what: why bother? it is not going to change your opinion, it is not going to give my wasted 2 hours and ticket money back and it is not going to prevent the movie from becoming the BO juggernaut. so what's the point? nobody gives a fuck about my arguments so why should i spend my time needlessly? to prove a point to that ultratron idiot? fuck it.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 7:50 p.m. CST

    BOTTOM LINE.....

    by DANGER_DIABOLIK_ ISN'T better than Casino Royale...NO frigging way...however, it IS better than does look gorgeous in China...and then it 'gets' to London...(and I'm English and from London).....then on, we have a Dark Knight plot rip-off (villain deliberately gets caught) an A-Team (Bond, M and Albert Finney) ending where they 'weaponise' the Bond family home (called 'Skyfall') in preparation for Bardem and Co.'s is fun...but just tell yourself, prior - 'I hope it's just better than QOS'....and you'll leave satisfied.....believe me !!!!

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 7:51 p.m. CST

    It's very simple:

    by Glenn

    I saw Tomorrow Never Dies. Not very good, folks.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 7:51 p.m. CST

    and btw...


    'Turd' is spot on....

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 7:57 p.m. CST



    ..just 'no' dude...even though Skyfall isn't that's still better than any Bond film that 'vanity' actor Brosnan featured in.....

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 7:59 p.m. CST


    by phifty2

    That's why I bought an air soft pulse rifle and not an air soft cattle prod.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 8 p.m. CST

    First Major Plothole really fraged the movie for me

    by James Robinson

    Why didn't the thieves just upload the list someplace, and let Silva download & crack it at his leisure? Why the whole idiotic chase in Istanbul culminating in Bong getting popped with friendly fire?

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 8:06 p.m. CST


    by Glenn

    What are you talking about? I specifically said, Tomorrow Never Dies. Skyfall hasn't even opened here yet.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 8:07 p.m. CST



    ....guess it depends on whether 'one' prefers subtlety to unsubtlety...Aliens is v great but is an action movie...whereas Alien is a horror film....

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 8:11 p.m. CST



    Well, then I ambiguously 'seemed' that you meant you saw Skyfall, and were likening it to TND...(easy for anyone to mis-read that), tbh....I have no idea it hasn't opened in the U.S , as i'm not in the U.S...

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 8:18 p.m. CST

    captain spalding


    ....but one could also ask....'why does Moneypenny choose to shoot at the bloke Bond is fighting on top of the train' from a ridiculously poor view-point, and not wait until the 'villain' is past 'her' view-point. and has a 'larger' body mass to 'aim' at...?

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 8:41 p.m. CST

    rippergiles, I agree

    by Mattman

    I was joking.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 8:47 p.m. CST

    themobgirl's Shortcut...very interesting

    by Albert Herbert

    As soon as that particular link is posted, Columbia pictures shuts it down, but not the other five or so from the film by the same user... Looks like AICN's being watched...

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Connery = OVERRATED!

    by Darth_Kaos

    He always has been. just because he was the first, doesn't make him the best. Most people only say that, so that it makes them seem like 007 persist or some bullshit like that. Don't get me wrong now, i know there are people who like his version of 007 and that's my point. to each its own. here are my top five 007 movies (seeing Skyfall on I won't know where it at). 5. Living Daylights/License To Kill (two seriously underrated movies) 4. Goldfinger (only Connery 007 I like) 3. Live and Let Die 2. Goldeneye 1. Casino Royale

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 10:34 p.m. CST

    Darth Kaos

    by Dan Anthony

    Connery *is* an awesome Bond - what I struggle with is the production values (specifically how dated they are) that really drag the films down - I suspect that might be what really kills him for you. I do agree though, Goldeneye and Casino Royale - top shelf, but how you rate Live & let die above For Your Eyes only... gotta disagree. Also - Dalton kicked ass.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 10:35 p.m. CST

    This movie felt like a Fleming novel

    by joel007

    more even than did Casino Royale, which was actually incredibly faithful to the book, at least by franchise standards. Interesting, as nothing of it came from a Fleming book.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 10:36 p.m. CST

    Plus... the door. I clapped for the door!

    by joel007

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 10:43 p.m. CST

    the third act... wow

    by joel007

    look beyond setpieces. What's being revealed and said. It's why he is who he is. Cool stuff....

  • I thought it was opening on the 9th. But I'm not complaining. It was amazing. It was cool. It was exciting. It was a damn good Bond film. POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOW!!! It was also a character study of Bond with some insight into his past. It also exposes some of M's past. Which brings us to Silva and his motivations. Bardem makes a dangerous and twisted villain. He was a 00 like Bond, but when he was pushed to the edge, he fell off of it. He feels betrayed by M for that and wants revenge. The only possible flaw in the movie that I can think of at the moment is that the first action set piece before the title credits achieves an excitement level that is never really topped by the rest of the movie. The film has lots of action through out, but that first 10 minutes? Damn. This is one of the best Bond films. Don't miss this one .

  • even though he makes the point of saying he ISNT using an MI6 car at that point. I get the desire to include as many old bond things as poss, but just pretending the new origin of that car didnt happen was just shonky.

  • There was a lot of potential and they squandered it. The relationship between M and Bond could have been really played up: tension, fighting, some deep recollection of what they mean to each other, lots of distrust... Then the villain comes along being Bond's "distrust" of M, incarnate. I know this is what they were kinda going for, but it was totally wasted. So much damn potential. Waste of a good scotch... At the climax, I felt nothing. And I usually feel things pretty easily. I really felt nothing for Lady M. I should have been fighting back tears or had a lump in my throat. But nothing. Look, its a good movie, but not that great. If people honestly feel that its the best Bond ever.... well, that's just sad on their part. As for if its better than Quantum of Solace, its certainly easier to enjoy. But my memory of Quantum of Solace was that it was different and schizophrenic with an almost numbing feeling. But it kinda represents what one would feel in a numb rage after losing the love of your life which is essentially your life at that moment. Though I thought it was a poor sequel to Casino Royale and was a giant misstep. But I guess I would choose Skyfall over Quantum. Quantum is served shaken, sloppy, and does not go down so well. It has its moments, but overall its like a half-remembered drunken night. Skyfall is served neat, easy, but lacking in what could have been great potential. It was missing some ingredients. Even though it may seem it was complete, it was not.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 4:24 a.m. CST

    Saw it last weekend

    by Johnboy40

    IMO, its the best Bond film since Goldfinger. I say this in the knowledge that I dislike most of Roger Moore's effort (the exception being For your eyes only), and really like Dalton's, Craig's, the first 3 and Goldeneye. The more personal, scaled down version of the character has always suited my own outlook on life, and Craig is magnificent in this. The silhouetted fight is a thing of beauty, btw

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 4:30 a.m. CST

    rowsdower.zabrowsdower - 'many Bonds' (SPOILER)

    by BlueLando

    This film DESTROYS that theory. James Bond isn't a code-name, it's a name. Period. Now we may be talking alternate dimensions sharing constants, but in this universe there's only ever been Craig's Bond!

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 5:26 a.m. CST

    So James Bond is an internationall spy who uses

    by frank

    his real name when introducing himself to the villains whom he is supposed to spy? for a movie who is supposed to be serious and realistic, it is completely clueless about real world espionage,isn't?

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 5:29 a.m. CST

    dubster32 re: bond car, what are you on about?

    by chronicallydepressedlemming

    It's a new db9 in Casino Royal, the Connery-era car he has locked away in the garage is the db3.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 5:30 a.m. CST

    cavejohnson, using his real name was addressed

    by chronicallydepressedlemming

    in Casino Royale. It's because he's an arrogant prick.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 6:19 a.m. CST

    No need to explain different Bonds

    by the_man_with_two_brains

    #spoliers# Just the same way the film doesn't explain how JB got shot from a train and ended up in a beach hut, it just happened and if you need it explaining then you're missing something. The film is great and I agree thay Javier Bardem's character is just peripheral in this film as it's really about M and Bond. My only regret is that I read that Mendes wanted Sean Connery to play the part thay Albert Finney plays, if that had happened I think I would have had a heart attack in the cinema. And I agree with previous poster that the ending with the old school office, leather upholstered door and new M was like a step back in time, perfect. Also the red button under the gearknob got a big laugh!

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 6:50 a.m. CST

    cavejohnson: completely agree

    by MrBurrrns

    just wanted to say that. skyfall, tdkr and prometheus have all been beautifully polished turds

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 6:59 a.m. CST


    by Lee

    I happily subscribed to the idea that Bond and 007 were titles passed from one agent to his eventual replacement. In fact, I thought that was basically implied throughout the franchise. Without spoiling anything, Skyfall explicitly does away with that notion. It posits that 'James Bond' is actually an [i]individual[i]. So, Connery, Lazenby, Moore, Dalton, Brosnan and Craig are all the same person. Unless it's just an enormous coincidence that his actual name happens to be the same as his inherited spy 'name'.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 7:18 a.m. CST

    Hey folks, Jenkins here... I'm gonna sack the Kidd

    by Jones Jonez

    How is he reviewing a film on November 8th that has been out in the UK 2 weeks? The Kidd... I've had jus about enough of your terrible reviews Take your milkybars and get the hell out!

  • Did they ever get the list though? Would have thought Silva put that on autopilot.

  • you were making mindless greater than comparisons and so I made a mindless greater than comparison using cats and dogs. Cat>dog. See? Then I punctuated the joke with the little news articles about recent studies that ascertain that something in cat's litter can cause brain parasites that can give humans suicidal thoughts. See I'm fucking UltraTron dude.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 8:54 a.m. CST

    UltraTron don't shiv. She balls nasty.

    by UltraTron

  • Such a silly thing to say!

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 9:12 a.m. CST

    You forgot...

    by Shugmeister


  • It's very enjoyable and more inteligent and emotionally ressonant then one might expected from a Bond movie. The acting from everybody is top notch, it's very well directed with an aplomb that most would not expect from Sam Mendes, and it is indeed a very pretty movie to behold, specially the climax in the moors at night. The title is also quite a misdirection. It looks like some code name for some typical Bond spy stuff, but it turns out to be quite different and yet completly relevant to the climax. By the way, the Adele's song is about the climax. I don't think i ever saw a Bond movie where the song was about the climax. It makes sense in context. A special mention should go to Dame Judi Dench as M. She is suberb! If ever an actor deserved an oscar nomination for work in a Bond movie, that's her in this movie. It is one of the best Bond movies, that much is certain.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 10:02 a.m. CST

    For fuck's sake...

    by Phimseto

    ...the Bond code name thing might have been legit from Connery to Brosnan, and there might have been something that you could have done with it. However, Casino Royale represented a brand new reboot of the series. It's not tied to the other films at all. Don't get tripped up by Judi Dench playing M. It's the same actress but not the same character. Brosnan M is not Craig M. They kept her on because when you have a chance to cast someone like Judi Dench, you do so.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 11:50 a.m. CST


    by Umney

    You simply have to promise them the world. And afterward, if you don’t deliver, it’s not as if they’ll be in any position to negotiate.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 12:03 p.m. CST

    chronicallydepressedlemming - you are incorrect. See :

    by Dubster32

    Go check Casino Royale again. He wins the DB5. He takes the geezers missus off in it before giving her a portion.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 12:34 p.m. CST

    I saw this last night too...

    by Bill C.

    ...and while I don't have the searing hate on for QoS that a lot of you do (though, lord, I would love to go back in time and smack the editors) SF is assuredly an improvement over it. That said, I'm not sure if I would put it above CR--but, to be fair, they're definitely not the same kind of movie. Martin Campbell's CR was rather stripped down and lean (not a bad thing), and Sam Mendes' SF is lush and almost auteur-ish in some ways (which is also NOT a bad thing, just...very different; Roger Deakins earned his pay like a motherfucker with this movie). If anything, my one nitpick thus far is the score. Thomas Newman actually did good work, but in places it just felt like he was trying too hard and it didn't quite "fit." That said this might have been more an effect of the IMAX theater I was in; everything was bass-heavy almost to the point of distraction. I'm actually tempted to catch this again in a normal theater just to see if that persists...

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 1:06 p.m. CST

    So the quality of this movie is expressed by its suggestion...

    by RocketScientist

    ...that the MI6 human resources department is staffed by a bunch of incompetent morons who allow a cartoon of a person to be hired?

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Sean Connery's take on Bond diminished? No way!

    by Snake Foreskin

    As long as people bother to watch the original films and keep the perspective of the times in which they were made, they will stand the test of time. And Connery's performance is the gold standard by which all other Bonds were and will be measured.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 2:12 p.m. CST

    @Mr rocketscientist

    by albert comin

    Really, go watch the movie. I'm sure you will enjoy it. Stuff that sounds weird or nonsensical about it makes sense in context when you watch it. Really.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Scirocco you praise this shitfest?

    by frank

    but you trash JJ's Nu Trek? you are completely clueless about cinema, are you?

  • Resorting to old fashioned style filled with less action sequences and more espionage, "Skyfall" perfects the old school James Bond just as "Casino Royale" perfected the more modern 007. Fantastic! For those of you saying it was boring, fuck off and grow some brain cells!

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 2:21 p.m. CST

    chronicallydepressedlemming that still it doesn't make

    by frank

    any sense. You mean MI6, the same espionage service that has secret agents all around the globe with hidden identities, the same organization that it made it top priority to get the stolen list of those secret identities back, these same employers allow an employee of them to reveal his real name in the espionage missions that he is sent to, simply because he is an arrogant prick? are you fucking kidding me?

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 2:23 p.m. CST

    but then again scirroco you praised TDKR.

    by frank

    another shitfest from this year. Oh fuck it, with such non-selective moviegoers, it is no wonder that quality cinema has gone down to the drain.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Actuall espionage? are you kidding me?

    by frank

    What espionage? the movie didn't even have a plot. here is how Bond got the big baddie: 1.he was shot by the baddie's assassin. after having for months, the scarps from the bullet inside his healed wound, he decides to take them out and give them to the MI6's lab boys 2. in a CSI-like moment, the lab boys after pressing some key in their keyboards, they discover from the bullet scraps the actual globe position of the assassin. yeah. the wonders of the modern technology. 3. Bond goes to Shanghai,kills the assassin,takes a ticket that he finds in his suitcase for a local casino and goes to that casino. 4.In the casino, he pretends that he is the assassin while using his REAL NAME. Regardless, the bad guys already know that he is not the real assassin, because the real assassin was already working for them so they knew how he looked like. But it doesn't matter, they play along with him and give him a suit with 4m euros. Maybe they were rushing to get rid of the euros before the collapse of EU. 5.The lady owner of the casino is interested on the pretender. She doesn't know who he really is. Hell he might be an assassin who is sent by a rival competito, to kill her but it doesn't matter. She meets the pretender and they have a short conversation.The super-spy wants to meet her boss whom he presumes that he is the baddie with the stolen list, that he is after him. After all a freelance assassin works only for one bad guy in his lifetime, right? right. 6. The lady decides to trust him with her life because she has an irresistible desire to suck the dick of that handsome,old,dogface stranger, after meeting with him for about 2 minutes in her casino. I guess drinking Heinekenn does make you a badass lady man. 7. Anyway, the lady brings Bond to meet her boss in some isolated island which was abandoned by its thousands of people a few months ago but it looked like it was abandoned 50 years ago. minor details. not that the rest of the world would have noticed. Bond meets the baddie and he manages to capture him. And his mission ends there. There ladies and gentlemen, this is how REAL ESPIONAGE works. The only thing that you need is a bullet wound and some bullet scraps with a rare alloy, a casino card and a scared whore who will betray her boss because she found a better alpha male to protect her. YEAH.REAL ESPIONAGE.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 3 p.m. CST

    ultratron , yeah I guess that one went over my head :)

    by Nichole

    All Hail ultratron! I'll make the wife scoop the box, even when she is pregnant.

  • For real espionage, see "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy." No Bond film has REAL espionage. Fucking stupid people on here. Was this film better than Royale, nope, but it was a great throwback to yesteryear Bond, except for Albert Finney's character who was a huge mistake.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 3:56 p.m. CST

    already backflipping, notcher?

    by frank

    first you said that Skyfall is a return to old school, with more real espionage than action, that's why the =stupid= people found it boring and they should grow some brain cells. now you say that none of the Bond movies have real espionage but =movie= espionage, whatever the fuck that means. Since all Bond movies have movie espionage, that means that the same people who like older Bond movies but they dont like Skyfal, they do have brain cells after all, don't they? fucking idiot.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 4:02 p.m. CST

    @Mr cavejohnson

    by albert comin

    I can't count the ways you are so wrong. Numbers wouldn't do it justice.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 4:02 p.m. CST

    How about the Bond girl, notcher?

    by frank

    Both the old school and the modern Bond movies, all of them have a Bond girl. Does Skyfall has a Bond girl? I don't remember seeing anyone, only three beauties with screen time ranging from 5sec to 5min. I don't know maybe M was the Bond girl in this movie. After all the whole movie was about her. Maybe apart from a stupid moviegoer,i am also a faggot who should also grow a pair of balls to start appreciating old hags as Bond girls, right?

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 4:03 p.m. CST

    scirocco i can count all the ways you are wrong.

    by frank

    counting forward and backward.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Cavejohnson, you said it.

    by notcher

    The development of Moneypenny was actually quite clever. Screen time doesn't matter, effectiveness does.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Moneypenny was the Bond girl in Skyfall?

    by frank

    wow, i always thought she was M's secretary. But i guess having her shave Bond in a chauvinistic scene, qualifies her as a "Bond girl". uhuh.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 4:23 p.m. CST

    and i said chauvinist, not racist.

    by frank

    i didn't go there yet.

  • I suppose I can see that if it's someone completely extraneous to the plot, like the unidentified Beach Girl in SF. Eve and Severine, though? Eve starts out as Bond's backup and fills this niche on two separate occasions, let alone her being largely the catalyst for a big chunk of his part of the movie. And Severine is the more traditional "basically good girl allied with the bad guy of the piece," and she was the one who pointed Bond to Silva in the first place. And on top of all that they both got to sleep with him. I think their Bond girl qualifications are solid.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Dammit, i was right!!

    by frank

    from Wiki: A Bond girl is a character or actress portraying a love interest of James Bond in a film, novel, or video game. They occasionally have names that are double entendres or puns, such as Pussy Galore, Plenty O'Toole, Xenia Onatopp, or Holly Goodhead. Bond girls are considered "ubiquitous symbol[s] of glamour and sophistication." There is no set rule on who a Bond girl will be or what role she will play. She may be ally or enemy, pivotal to the mission or simply eye candy. Despite this broad scope there are female characters such as Judi Dench's M and Miss Moneypenny who are NOT Bond girls. However, M may be considered a special Bond girl in Skyfall, where she plays a pivotal role and her emotional backstory with Bond is explored. ahahaha, you fucking fanboys, you are completely clueless about your favorite franchise while in the same time you judge other people for =not getting it=. ROFL.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Dammit, i was right!!

    by frank

    from Wiki: A Bond girl is a character or actress portraying a love interest of James Bond in a film, novel, or video game. They occasionally have names that are double entendres or puns, such as Pussy Galore, Plenty O'Toole, Xenia Onatopp, or Holly Goodhead. Bond girls are considered "ubiquitous symbol[s] of glamour and sophistication." There is no set rule on who a Bond girl will be or what role she will play. She may be ally or enemy, pivotal to the mission or simply eye candy. Despite this broad scope there are female characters such as Judi Dench's M and Miss Moneypenny who are NOT Bond girls. However, M may be considered a special Bond girl in Skyfall, where she plays a pivotal role and her emotional backstory with Bond is explored. ahahaha, you fucking fanboys, you are completely clueless about your favorite franchise while in the same time you judge other people for =not getting it=. ROFL.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 5:53 p.m. CST

    The Bond girls are wasted in Skyfall

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    I'm not sure Moneypenny should even count as a Bond girl. I presume Bond slept with her, also; at least, the movie implied that. Well, Bond shouldn't sleep with Moneypenny. The whole point of that character is that she and Bond flirt but, unlike the other girls, Bond never consumates his relationship with her. So that's anothe rpoint that Skyfall flubbed. Severine was just a wasted character, serving only as a plot device to get Bond to Silva. Fuck, QoS had a better Bond girl; at least she had substance and had thematic relevance to Bond's journey in that film. And, of course, Eva Green was a SHIT TON better. Couple that with underwhelming action, and you get a film that in no way deserves to be called 'the best Bond ever'. How can it be, when such crucial elements of the formula are but pale shadows of what came before?

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Moneypenny as a Bond Girl

    by davidwebb

    She's set up as a Bond girl, it's only at the end where she's revealed to be Moneypenny. They bent the rules for this one. M isn't though. You wouldn't go there. I wouldn't go there.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 6:55 p.m. CST

    turd ,as always ,well said.

    by frank

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 7 p.m. CST

    The only thing that stands out in this borefest

    by frank

    is Bardem's blond wig. Btw am i the only who thought that Bardem's character was a combination of Joker,Dr Phibes and a gay version of Max Zorin?

  • with Craig showing his chest muscles most of the time.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 8:44 p.m. CST

    Garbage movie. I'm glad some of you can see through the hype

    by Larry_Sanders

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 5:22 a.m. CST

    @Mr cavejohnson

    by albert comin

    There is one thing we are in agreement on, but it's happening in another thread.

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 10:12 a.m. CST

    I actually like CR and QOS better than Skyfall

    by grendel69

    Maybe I need to see it again.

  • I mean come on, when Silva blew up Bonds car, THAT'S when Bond get pissed lol loved it. Even when the girl he screwed the night before gets executed in front of him, he doesn't flinch. Awesome character stuff. Now with the new M and the old "band" back together, will we finally get a damn proper Bond movie next go? No more of this wink wink bull they've been doing in the last two. Overall though, Skyfall was pure class all the way, Mendes knocked it out of the park, hope he wants to make the next one. Can Craig ski?

  • whore getting killed? wow, i was wrong. Skyfall is indeed a throwback to the old school Bond. It shamelessly reeks with chauvinism.

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 12:15 p.m. CST

    STFU already Cavejohnson!

    by benlinus

    We get that you hated SF, fine. We dont need 10 trillion posts about it. Most of the movie going public LOVED it and its at 93% on RT so you clearly are in the minority. Just go away already...

  • and using them as an argument for the quality of a movie is also retarded. and keep your fascism to yourself belinus.

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Mendes: Not a Good Bond Match

    by BeatsMe

    Looked gorgeous, but bloodless, toothless (and I don't just mean Silva). Never felt the impact of anything happening, and any of the good threads - solid female roles, subway action - just didn't go anywhere. Not the worst by any stretch of the imagination, but nowhere near the adrenaline jolt of Casino Royale. As boring as QoS but for totally different reasons.

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 2:48 p.m. CST

    @beatsme BINGO!

    by frank

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 4:38 p.m. CST

    most of the movie going public and the film critics are retarded


    Unlike MEEEEEEE!!! My opinion is the right one, why can't everyone else SEE that!!? If only people would just LISTEN to me and see that they're wrong and I am right!!! Grrrrrrrr, I didn't like this movie and the fact that everyone else seemed to enjoy it MAKES ME SO MAD!!!!!!

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Espionage? For fucks sake!

    by dude_gimme_tabs

    Some people need to understand espionage/spys/agents/sources. Fucking laughable conversations here.<p> Bond is a field operative, retards! <p> He doesn't run agents who he has convinced to feed him information based on their own sense of duty, or for money, or by preying on their insecurities and manipulating them.<p> He is the field operative who, when one of the aforementioned agents gives evidence of shit going down to their handlers (via boring stuff like dead drops), goes in to sort the shit out.<p> Why is that so hard to understand?

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Incredibly satisfying

    by joel007

    Well crafted, brilliantly cast. Well executed in every way. More character study than plot heavy, and it worked perfectly for me. The last reel in Scotland had emotional resonance and a sense of doom. We finally got more of a peek behind the curtain than we have before. The new Bonds have purposely attempted to tread a line between realism and action fantasy and I think that has worked. The story machinations fall into the more fantasy elements, while the performances and overall style are more grounded. I like that approach. If anyone is complaining about the lack of "espionage realism" in the Bond series, I suggest you stop watching. This is a character who battled bad guys in a volcano, outer space, underwater lairs and in an ice palace while driving an invisible car. He walks into places, uses his real name and wears a tuxedo. There's a formula at work here, and it has worked for fifty years.

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 5:26 p.m. CST

    kevin i am not stating an opinion, i am stating a fact.

    by frank

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 5:31 p.m. CST

    they got your ten dollars though, didnt they?

    by joel007

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 5:38 p.m. CST


    by blhotz

    I love movies so it was far from a bad movie. But definitely DID NOT meet the hype. Too predicable and unexciting compared to nearly every other Bond movie... NO CLUE what the hype is about...

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 5:56 p.m. CST


    by joel007

    As you seem to know more than every single person here about movies, and most movies are complete and total crap these days, and this is something you clearly find vexing... maybe you should go out and make a better one. Write a screenplay. It's easy. Can probably do in a few days. Find yourself an agent. No problem. Get a manager. Done. Get your script buzzed about, make sure it's completely structurally sound and universally liked by every single person who reads it. Get a studio or production shingle attached. No problemo. Get it in the pipeline. No problem there, just get all the planets to align and you're set. Then learn how to make a movie in the first place. Shouldn't take long. Then comes the easy part. Make the movie. Absolute piece of cake. Post it, mix it, whole ball of wax. finito. Then you can spare us all of these horrible movies we keep subjecting ourselves to.

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 5:58 p.m. CST

    @cavejohnson Of course you are.


    It is a FACT that Skyfall is a bad movie. THE PEOPLE MUST BE TOLD THEIR ENJOYMENT OF THIS MOVIE WAS INNCORRECT!!! Please cavejohnson, it is your duty to check all the Skyfall fallbacks every few minutes to correct any unfortunate soul who comes on to express their enjoyment of this film. You must set them all straight.

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 6 p.m. CST

    What I mean to say is...

    by joel007

    I get a bit tired of little pissants like you shitting all over my bread and butter, then coming back and asking for seconds. To quote one of the greats, "I'd rather you just said thank you, and went on your way."

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 6:20 p.m. CST

    oh no kevin, you misunderstood.

    by frank

    everyone has the right to like whatever they want, that's for granted. The question is why the fuck do you care about my criticism of the thing that you like so much? why it matters to you when i state the fact that the movie that you like is mediocre? what's the problem?

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Cavejohnson, I have absolutely no problem with you stating your disappointment with this film


    However, after about the two hundredth post it starts to get a bit repetitive.

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 6:57 p.m. CST

    cavejohnson = a bit of a shithead

    by IAmLegolas

    hate to resort to name calling, but here I am....

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 7:16 p.m. CST

    I was a bit harsh there.

    by joel007

  • 2. in a CSI-like moment, the lab boys after pressing some key in their keyboards, they discover from the bullet scraps the actual globe position of the assassin. yeah. the wonders of the modern technology.

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 11:04 p.m. CST

    Wow, dunno what the heck happened to my response, here it is again

    by Dreamwriter

    I loved the movie, as someone who has only seen like two other Bond movies. But CaveJohnson doesn't seem to have been paying attention to it - maybe he was only watching it trying to find everything that was wrong with the movie? In response to CJ's point #2, that's nothing like what happened. In the movie, Bond gives the lab boys the bullet scraps. Then a few days later, the lab results come back that they use a metal only used in custom-made bullets made for a special gun, known by MI6 to be used by only three assassins/terrorists. MI6 had of course done research on those 3 bad guys before giving Bond the news, so after Bond pointed out which one had shot him, they could tell him that that particular assassin had run afowl of the United States CIA, who was now tracking him and on the verge of capturing him. Thus they knew the guy's alias and knew the moment he booked a flight, so knew where he was going to be. A bit convenient, sure, but that's how this type of movie works, hurry up and get the hero to where he can do some cool shit. And think about it, maybe the real bad guy planted the data in MI6's computers... In response to CJ's stuff about the girl and the casino, first off in most movies assassins don't make their looks known to their employers, so it's not something you can assume that they'd know who he looks like. The lady knew the assassin had at least been in a fight, though not the results, but she didn't tell the casino about it for some reason (maybe she was ordered not to by her boss). She let Bond come with her because she was hoping he would free her from that life...or because she was ordered to by her boss (who wants an MI6 agent on his island). Note that she did meet with him in what she considered to be a safe place (the casino surrounded by guards), and she knew her guards were ordered to kill whomever claimed the money (so the casino would be getting it back).

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 11:33 p.m. CST

    @kevin then by all means, ignore my posts.

    by frank

    i ll intend to be here for a while, criticizing this borefest.

  • Bond knew the assassins' face. A sketch artist and some search in the files would have sufficed to find him. So why make it so unnecessarily complicated, why all this fuss, what's the point? If this was not a deliberate CSI/Hollywood-type moment to impress the audience with the high tech form of espionage that MI6 performs, then what is it? It was not actual espionage, something that this movie was praised for,that's for sure. As for the whore in the casino, did you notice that after Bond fucks her in the boat, in the next scene they are both with handcuffs arriving at the island? Does this plot progression even make any sense? Or was it again one of those quick,convenient ways to get the hero somewhere to do some cool shit? Personally i don't care about plotholes or logical gaps in the Bond movies. Bond movies are dumb fun which are not to be taken seriously, nothing else than that. But when a Bond movie tries to take itself too seriously and it gets praise for that but it fails so miserable in the storytelling department, then yes that bothers me, it bothers me a lot. And that's where my criticism is coming from.

  • I buy Bond is a code name. And yes it is a coincidence or perhaps M being funny giving Craig-Bond that name. But I don't necessarily believe they are trying to establish all the actors were different Bonds. They do establish that different people get the M and Q (or Quartermaster) designation, but do they do the same for Moneypenny? How about the CIA? has there been many Felix Leiters? Don't try to establish 50 years of canon past a given actor's run. Just suspend your disbelief that each Bond story is a story for the given time.

  • Nov. 11, 2012, 11:53 a.m. CST

    m-does she live or not?

    by Hugh Gustavus

    please, oh please tell me the old bag gets it

  • Nov. 11, 2012, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Benicio Del Toro was in Licence To Kill


    And so the circle is complete.

  • Nov. 11, 2012, 1:56 p.m. CST


    by Umney

    Both of them were great. Anyone else dig the Roger Moore overtones?

  • Nov. 11, 2012, 7:39 p.m. CST

    I found Skyfall dull as well

    by BigTuna

    Has some major pacing issues, and frankly, it feels too "Small" of a scope for a Bond film. Most of the action takes place in London. And the ladt 30 minutes are a big letdown for a Bond ending.

  • Nov. 11, 2012, 8:30 p.m. CST

    kind of a disappointment

    by CountryBoy

    Most of the action is gunfights and massive explosions; the constant BOOM BOOM BOOM grows repetitive. And the scope of the movie gets SMALLER as it progresses, which always annoys me in movies, and should be out of the question in Bond. And as for the ending -- SPOILERS -- Since Silva wants M to kill both herself and him, doesn't he end up getting exactly what he wants? They both die, just not precisely the way he attempted. Bond might as well not have even been there. And BTW, who names their manor house SKYFALL? It's like "Welcome to my home; I call it DOOMSDAY." Yikes. End SPOILERS -- The one really great scene, for me, was Silva's first appearance. That single shot, in which he starts out a tiny figure in the distance, and ambles the whole length of the warehouse telling the story of the rats, is a fantastic entrance. That and the opening chase are the highlights for me.

  • Nov. 11, 2012, 8:42 p.m. CST

    I should add...

    by Umney

    that From Russia With Love is my favorite Bond flick, so Skyfall was right up my alley. 'Pacing problems' and 'unmemorable action scenes' are staples of my classic Bond.

  • Nov. 11, 2012, 8:45 p.m. CST

    Also, Countryboy,

    by Umney

    Fleming himself called his Jamaican manor ‘Goldeneye’. Take that as you will.

  • Nov. 11, 2012, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Disfigured villain getting caught? Come On

    by chien_sale

    It's like the Producers watched Dark Knight and thought "we want that!".

  • SPOILER 1. Kimodo Dragons Urg. Just terrible. And speaking of bad CGI, why not just do make-up on Bardem when he took his teeth out? 2. The anti-climactic, predictable death of Silva. CLearly Bond was going to step in and save M, but man they did it in the lamest way possible. (3...really wearing the Dark Knight influence on its sleeve, huh? "HE WANTED TO GET CAUGHT!") Regardless, fucking great movie.

  • Nov. 12, 2012, 10:04 a.m. CST

    The good thing about a movie like Skyfall

    by Phimseto

    is that so many people I know go to see it, that I can accurately gauge my own reaction based on their responses. The people who thought the film wasn't that great are typically the one who read all the reviews, spoilers, hype articles and are incapable of overcoming their own pre-conceived notions. The people who found it borning are typically the ones who recommended "Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever" and other such films to me once upon a time. The ones who think it's the best Bond film ever tend to be 25-younger. The ones who like it quite a bit tend to be 25-older and well-versed Bond fans.

  • Nov. 12, 2012, 10:06 a.m. CST


    by Phimseto

    You thought the death was lame? I liked it quite a bit. "Sometimes the old ways are best" combined with a really great bit of "dying" by Bardem.

  • Nov. 12, 2012, 12:42 p.m. CST

    bigtuna and countryboy

    by CodeName

    That's almost exactly how I feel about Skyfall. Ever since the Brosnan Bonds, the fun factor in showing inventive gadgetries has ceased to exist. In Skyfall, they just show the two, yes only two, gadgets as mere props. The action was very sterile and you could see that the actors were moving to the director shouting at them through a megaphone. The action in Skyfall was like watching stuntmen hit their cues on every cliched note.

  • Nov. 12, 2012, 4:14 p.m. CST

    I've seen it twice...

    by jellypop

    there's nobody on the train. Look, it's okay as a movie but it feels at times like Never say never again. Not an actual Bond film but a movie where he just happens to turn up. The Scottish set finale is pretty decent but the film overall lacks a set-piece of two. I'm no action junkie by anymeans & I have always loved Bond movies, I just feel that a little more spectacle was required.

  • Nov. 12, 2012, 4:15 p.m. CST


    by Tim

    I guess lame was a harsh word... It's just that while Silva was holding the gun to M's/his head, I was like "Ok, now Bond saves her in 3...2...1...", I just would've like it to be a bit different or surprising I guess. Reminded me of how Bane died.

  • Nov. 15, 2012, 2:48 p.m. CST

    It's an outstanding Bond film

    by Star Hump

    Perhaps not the best of all, but certainly the best looking. Incredible cinematography. This Bond is quite grim and stoic, a haunted killer who's loyalty to country and service nonetheless runs deep. Dench shines as M and the action is suitably rough and gnarly. I wouldn't say epic, but the various pursuit and fighting scenes are quite visceral. Quality Bond.

  • After You Only Live Twice, which revealed Blofeld for the first time there was On Her Majesty's Secret Service in which Lazenby's Bond is still pursuing Blofeld, who got away in the previous film. And then after Blofeld kills Bond's wife at the end of OHMSS, we see Connery back as Bond out for revenge tracking down his arch-nemesis and seemingly killing him. Later, Roger Moore would lay flowers at his wife's grave and battle Blofeld one final time at the beginning of For Your Eyes Only. Craig's run is very much a re-boot and it's own Bond timeline, especially given Bond is a rookie at the beginning of Casino Royal. The only evidence that it exists in the previous Bond universe are the tongue-in-cheek references to the previous films. Skyfall establishes once and for all that this is the one and only James Bond and that the name is not an alias to be passed from agent to agent.