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Nov. 7, 2012, 9:25 p.m. CST
Nord - All the ads have made the film look pompous and self important
by MrD
Are you saying that the film has a more natural and humble tone that the ads to date?
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NIce poster
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Looking forward to it.
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After the terrible news yesterday, I can't wait to see what a REAL president was like!
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Did this film remind you of any other Spielberg films? As a black man, I enjoyed AMISTAD. However, I realize that the film just didn't have mass appeal. I also enjoyed WAR HORSE even if it looked a bit contrived and even simplistic. Did this film remind you of any other films -- Spielberg or otherwise?
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Not really. I love the scripts from his other movies, but none of them are like this. This thing is poetry.
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Nov. 7, 2012, 9:56 p.m. CST
Day Lewis can vanish now for another few years ... 9 movies in the 20 years since 'The Last of the Mohicans' ... Wish he worked more.
by GINGE_MUPPET
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LINCOLN is not pompous in any way. The trailer has big moments in it, but much of the time it's simply about the mechanics of government but it's done in a compelling way.
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Not to diminish the man's work, but that's just the gravitas he kind of brings to it due to being all choosy and shit. I would like to see him break the streak and just do a big ass blockbuster one day before he dies.
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A bud of mine was an extra in a few scenes with him in the House of Reps and he said that Pace was just delightful to watch. Said he was clearly having a blast playing a massive jackass. Did that translate to the screen?
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I think the trouble with Spielberg, and to partially address ccchhhrrriiisssmredux's points, is that, since E.T., he has either struggled to make "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride" or show how "serious" of a filmmaker he is every time out. The utterly effortless, cutting-edge mastery he demonstrated with JAWS, RAIDERS, CLOSE ENCOUNTERS and DUEL has taken a back seat to grim determination. He used to have a lot of FUN making movies. Maybe 1941 burned him worse than we know?</p><p> Anyway, movies like AMISTAD or WAR HORSE or THE COLOR PURPLE or EMPIRE OF THE SUN don't resonate the way his earlier stuff did because there's no FUN involved, and that's exactly what we used to go see a Spielberg movie for. For a while, his name on a movie was synonymous with "theatrical event". He briefly recaptured that with JURASSIC PARK, and even came perilously close to demonstrating his cinematic godhood with SAVING PRIVATE RYAN ... but it seems like he clips his own wings almost every time out these days. You can easily see the greatness is still there, maybe even dying to come out, but he refuses to let it happen. Some -- myself included -- would argue that he probably doesn't even need to. But I'd like to see him pull out the stops at least one more time before he retires. IF he retires. Chances are high he'll drop dead behind a camera after yelling "CUT!"
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Seriously. When generations look back at the late 20th Century/early 21st Century films, Daniel Day-Lewis will be one of the "great ones." As is, he is still one of the most underrated actors. You forget that you are looking at Day-Lewis when you see him in a roll.
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Nov. 7, 2012, 10:28 p.m. CST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=I_iq5yzJ-Dk
by Chris Moody
Crazy. A man who saw Lincoln killed was on a TV game show alongside Henry Morgan and Lucille Ball. It is crazy to know that my dad was alive (albeit a kid) at the same time as a man who was in Ford's Theatre the night that Lincoln died.
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Tommy Lee Jones is amazing. DDL is too of course, but Jones was a definite surprise. And I expected some sappiness all around due to the trailer looking like War Horse, but no. It's not. Much better. But like War Horse, this movie could definitely work as a stage play, with the storytelling and speeches, using a few key locations repeatedly, stuff like that. And the recruting scenes from Spader/Hawkes slightly reminded me of the Seven Samurai recruiting. Good stuff.
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I understand Douglass was sleepy and unfocused in the first one, but came on strong later.
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Nov. 7, 2012, 11:17 p.m. CST
Good review... You're one of the few contributors to this site that can write. I'm looking forward to LINCOLN immensely.
by Chris
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Just saying.
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Nov. 7, 2012, 11:24 p.m. CST
ccchhhrrriiisssmredux, Daniel Day-Lewis, your hero, would slap your face for being a stupid teabagger.
by uberfreak
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you must be kidding?
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Nov. 8, 2012, midnight CST
I actually thought Munich was quite good.....even breaking the 'Bana Curse.....'
by sauronthepowerful
It fell apart in the third act but I thought he had something special there. ~p> Unfortunately I am in the severe minority on this, I know.
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Nov. 8, 2012, 12:01 a.m. CST
Would say that Munich is slightly underrated.......obviously not on the same plateau as Spielbergs golden age but I thought it was a very well done film for two acts
by sauronthepowerful
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Nov. 8, 2012, 12:03 a.m. CST
Armageddon......Color Purple was a great movie made far, far greater by the fact that it was released during the height of his blockbuster, entertainment as opposed to history golden age.
by sauronthepowerful
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Nov. 8, 2012, 12:05 a.m. CST
Historical golden age rather.....still he went way way out on a limb to do that film at that time both socially and so fresh off of the numerous gems that define his career
by sauronthepowerful
Lets just say that he didn't go off and make Howard the Duck at that point in his career.
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And as a political junkie I'd be fine with a film about the government mechanics from that era.
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false alarm!!!
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As a non-american i was mostly interested in the film for DDL's acting. I not that bothered by the history as such and how accurately it is shown. That isn't to say I don't have an interest in history I read a lot about WWII for example. I just wondering how this type of movie affects US viewers. Thanks for any replies.
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First of all, I am not a "teabagger." I have never been to a "tea party" -- which are loosely organized at best -- even if most of us agree with their goal for "taxation WITH representation." You, however, are an asshole. Secondly, although Daniel Day-Lewis is a great actor; however, he is not my "hero." Third, I seriously doubt that Daniel Day-Lewis is so ideologically extreme that he would attempt to "slap" me. Fourth, I am 6'4" tall and an ex-football player. Even if Day-Lewis was a jackass Liberal extremist, I don't think that he would "slap" me anyway. Finally, you are an asshole.
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I agree! My dad was two years old when that was filmed. It is crazy to think that some people who are alive today actually spoke with and heard a first-hand account of a man who saw Lincoln assassinated.
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From what I have read, Spielberg, Day-Lewis and Co. went to great lengths to be historically accurate. Will it be interesting? Mark Twain said, "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't." So, this might be more interesting than some folks would suppose. If you like to read, the NY Times bestseller KILLING LINCOLN is fantastic!
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Means something very different where I come from...
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So, according to you, Schindler's List, The Lost World, Amistad, Saving Private Ryan, A.I., Minority Report, Catch Me If You Can, War of the Worlds and Munich are not good films? <p> Idiot.
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God.
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Nov. 8, 2012, 4:09 a.m. CST
Sounds good, but I hope the last shot is a pan down onto Angola plantation prison today. Busy as ever.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 8, 2012, 4:38 a.m. CST
Warhorse made me vomit it was so sickly sentimental and bland.....The days of Indy and Close Encounters are long gone..
by cameron
The beard did his best work when he made pulp movies for the audience to enjoy like Jaws, Indy, ET, Close Encounters. He scored a marvelous hit against the grain with the double wammy of Jurrasic Park & Schindlers list. But he has tried replicate that ever since and his work suffers because he's desperate to be both serious and blockbuster. WotW and Munich in 2005 were both good but each could have been more had he not flim flamed between genres. He's not Paul Thomas Anderson and someone should tell him. Being 70 also makes him see things a bit more twee. I hope Daniel Day Lewis gives us something special like There Will Be Blood, but everything is won or lost on the cutting room floor.
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He could be maybe a really tall jawa or anything really
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exactly my thoughts
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You need to educate yourself a bit if you think the Republican party is the only party with any racists in it. In fact I might argue that more leftist parties, have a much more damaging form of racism AND class warfare in it then some of the outer fringe that occupies today's Republican party. Think hard about how those in power in gov't enslave minorities and the poor by the continued promise of entitlement. Think hard about how those in power in gov't feel that individuals are too weak and dependant to pull themselves up, so we must take "care" of them, and by that continued care we retain our power and control.
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While I hate both parties due to their polarized, unconstitutional stranglehold over politics and political thought in this country, liberals have created some truly awful law. Entitlements are just that, they breed a cultural sense of entitlement...the "man" isn't giving me what's mine, so I'll take it by force using government.</p> <p> This happens with corporations, too. They become addicted to easy credit, subsidies, tax breaks, etc. and never, ever work themselves out from under the need. Foreign aid works the same way. We give billions to everyone from Caribbean islands to Israel, and they keep taking and taking and taking, never willing to just stop taking!
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I hope this movie doesn't glorify Lincoln. The man was scum. Nordling completely got it wrong about things being better after the war. Absolutely untrue. Not only was the war NOT about slavery, it was completely and utterly unconstitutional. </p> <p> By constitution, every state has the right to secede from the union. Period, end of story. Lincoln wouldn't allow the south to secede because they made up 75% of GDP. Read the book "The South was Right". In it, they specifically quote Lincoln as saying they couldn't allow the south to secede because then who would pay for government. Slavery was merely political spin to make the war palatable (not so unlike how things are done today).</p> <p> Over 600,000 died during the Civil War all so that government could keep on keeping on. It also absolutely destroyed states rights, which is why today the laws created by the federal government take precedence over state law - entirely against the constitution and the intent of the founders.
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Is a directing God, yes he doesn't make the fun movies he used to. I'm ok with that he's 30 years older people. You are going to be a different person 30 years older. Also can we enjoy the movie without all this political B.S. It's a movie that's all that is.
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He's a great director, but almost everything seems to come-off feeling a little half-baked. I blame his unshakable optimism. Also, he hasn't been able to satisfactorily finish a story since the 90s (see AI, Minority Report, etc). He deserves alot of credit, but he's hardly in the same league as an artist like Lynch or Kubrick, and he knows it.
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Somebody didn't read the "Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union" where the South lays out it's reasons for seceding from the Union. I don't know how the "state's rights" excuse gained momentum when the truth is laid out in widely available historical documents. Kinda scary.
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of the United States of America--clothed in immense power. So suck on it, you red state bitches. Conservatives were actually shocked and stunned yesterday that Obama won, even though it's been obvious for months that he had around an 80 percent chance of winning. If that doesn't tell you how separated from reality they are--then nothing will. Watching Fox News lose their goddamn minds when the race was called, was better entertainment than any movie made in the last 10 years.
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Nov. 8, 2012, 7:02 a.m. CST
What people say is that The Civil War wasn't JUST about slavery.
by Smerdyakov
Slavery was doomed by industrialization anyway. Why support slaves when you can just hire people at slave wages? Most slaves today are in the sex business.
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Nov. 8, 2012, 7:31 a.m. CST
the trailer for this movie looked like it reached J. EDGAR levels of dullness
by Spandau Belly
Man, if J. EDGAR didn't the most fascinating historic personage and make the dullest possible movie about him, then I don't know what movie did. Well, maybe THE AVIATOR.
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The guy is only one of the top 5 greatest living actors in the world.
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I still don't get it.
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I always find t his to be a curious thing to say. We should base the next thousand years on the intent of dead men? We assume they wouldn't change their opinons based on the shifting landscape of politics? This intent idea implies that people are rigid and never changing. It doesn't matter what they intended. Nations evolve. They didn't intend for a lot of things, certainly not a black president, and here we have one.
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Kate Hudson, Marion Cotillard, Nicole Kidman, and Penelope Cruz parading around in skimpy clothing...........just a fricken guess man!
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The amount of restraint he displayed in that film surprised me. Very little shlock and weepy music. It's a shame that it's the exception and not the rule when it comes to Spielberg's work.
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The acting and script were so bad (and you know it wasn't meant to be intentional), it's destined to be a cult classic. The scene where Arnie Hammer in old man drag can't get out a word after his stroke and Leo Dicaprio in old man Jack Nicholson drag gets pissed at him is a laugh riot.
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Other than it being too long and the plot being all over the place, I thought it was preaty well done.
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This movie will put an end to the whiny Spielberg haters. He is the best film maker in history, the end.
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I hope this movie doesn't glorify Lincoln. The man was scum.
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Nov. 8, 2012, 8:26 a.m. CST
Does this one carry double-tomahawks and dispatch the undead?
by obijuanmartinez
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Nov. 8, 2012, 8:27 a.m. CST
@knowthyself: Why not - Worked for organized religion...
by obijuanmartinez
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if alec guiness did it, DDL can.
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DDL's performance is so good that it you really forget that you're watching an actor pretending to be Lincoln. Tommy Lee Jones was also a standout, but benefited greatly by not having to share screentime with DDL. I would say the low point of the movie was the voting scene, Spielberg tried to make it an edge of your seat moment, but since we all know how it actually turned out it didn't make much sense to string it out. This is worth the price of admission solely for DDL and a portrayal of Lincoln unlike any you've ever scene.
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... Now when J.W.B. shoots him, confetti and sparklers erupt from his head and the play gets rave reviews... >_< just sayin!
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Nov. 8, 2012, 9:07 a.m. CST
I used to be able to suffer through these "civics lessons" like Amistad, and this. Now those films are comedies to me, whenever they show politicians as saviors. The book this is based on is by a court historian (official state propagandist), not a real
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 8, 2012, 9:12 a.m. CST
Spielberg got too caught up in Hollywood factions. He used to be a citizen of the universe.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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it sanitizes Lincoln's racism, and makes it seem as though ending slavery was more central to his war aims than it actually appears to have been.
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Does Debra Winger provide the dubbed voice for Lincoln? Does Gregory Peck's Lincoln come in and challange Day-Lewis' Lincoln to a bare-knuckle shirtless fight to the death (after performing femoral intercourse on one another)? Is there an Oscar strategically placed into every frame similar to 'Where's Waldo'? Are there dinosaurs, aliens, and/or killer semi-trucks? Does Wilkes Booth yell, 'Fuck that hurt! Ow!' after jumping from the balcony? Is the famous 'Four score...' speech rapped? These are things that are needed in a Spielbergian Lincoln epic. I mean, Christ, there's 2-1/2 hours to fill!
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The ads make it seem self-important and I was kinda hoping for more of a "Weekend at Bernie's 2" feel. I hope these pompous dicks don't fuck it up.
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by Republicans. Just sayin'.
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Nov. 8, 2012, 9:52 a.m. CST
i hope it's not a movie about the kind gentle white man freeing the slaves
by MISTER RUMBLES
i've seen enough of that shit and i don't care
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Nov. 8, 2012, 9:53 a.m. CST
And all this talk of Spielberg being a dinosaur is utter bollocks. If you hadn't of long ago lost your child-light you'd see how amazeing a return "Tin-Tin" was last years.
by ChaunceyGardiner
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Try it. Lol! If you tried to "slap me," I would beat the shit out of you. You are not only a dick but you throw a hissy fit too. So, go back to your "brave" excessive ranting behind the safety of your computer monitor. You are too petty of a gnat to concern myself with too much.
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Yes, Munich was fantastic.
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Nov. 8, 2012, 10:10 a.m. CST
The Republican and Democratic parties have basically switched since then
by elsachmo
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Not going to happen. Star Wars is where old stars (Alec Guinness, Cushing, etc...) go to be resuscitated and young unknowns go to be "discovered." Daniel Day-Lewis is neither. It is fun to dream though. But, unless that guy was a huge Star Wars fan, I just don't see it happening.
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Not really. The Democratic Party simply replaced slavery with "government dependency." My dad is in his late 50s, and he reminds me that we are worse off now as a community than before Democrats started giving us entitlement promises in exchange for our votes. The pony thing that has changed is the talking points.
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Harrison Ford, Carrie Fischer, Mark Hamill do fit the "old stars who need resuscitation" criteria.
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Nov. 8, 2012, 10:46 a.m. CST
I hope they don't glorify Lincoln. There's this great book called the Protocols of Zion...
by Baked
No, but seriously, shut the fuck up. The war was the tipping point in a decades-long, bloody interstate conflict over the right to own slaves. Period. Lincoln repeatedly in letters and in debates stated he thought the slave should be free and bear the same rights as white men. It's in the fucking DEBATES on a PLATFORM recorded for POSTERITY. And that's before you get into his PRIVATE LETTERS. The closest people can get is a single rhetorical backhand to Horace Greeley TWO YEARS INTO THE BLOODIEST WAR IN HISTORY. Before the war started, we got such interesting bon mots as... --There is no reason in the world why the negro is not entitled to all the natural rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence - the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I hold that he is as much entitled to these as the white man.-- ~First Lincoln Douglass Debates, 1858 And... --Slavery and oppression must cease, or American liberty must perish.-- ~Speech, 1842 And... --The one victory we can ever call complete will be that one which proclaims that there is not a slave on the face of God's green earth.-- ~Letter to George Picket, 1842 And... --If the negro is a man, why then my ancient faith teaches me that 'all men are created equal' and that there can be no moral right in connection with one man's making a slave of another.-- ~Speech, IL, 1854 The Southern apologist revisionist history is endearing because it helps racists feel less bad for being racists. Lincoln was being a smartass and since their love of the Colbert report proves that conservatives and Southern whites completely lack the ability to comprehend sarcasm (read the entire response), they think Lincoln didn't give a shit about black people... WRONG! He was a fucking abolitionist his entire life. His parents LEFT THEIR CHURCH because they didn't care enough about abolition.
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the greatest Sith who ever lived. It is time to have the planet Korriban in the movies also.
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Nov. 8, 2012, 11:12 a.m. CST
In the past, the republicans were the party that today people would call "liberal"
by albert comin
The reason why the republicans turned conservative has to do woith the deluge from the "dixiecrats", dissidents from the democratic party, (once the conservative party) who unhapy with the turn their party was taking, fled to the republican. Thus started the changes on both parties. they pratically swapped stanses. 100 years ago if you told anybody that the republican party was the conservative, they would look at you as if you were fucking mad.
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Nov. 8, 2012, 11:15 a.m. CST
"TWO YEARS INTO THE BLOODIEST WAR IN HISTORY" Is that book about the Taiping Rebellion?
by albert comin
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Thank you. I've been reading that particular stack of horseshit for years. People of bugeininpo's ilk are backwoods rednecks lost in the woods, hoping vainly to find another Ned Beatty to rape.
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I saw the movie a couple of weeks ago and loved it. I did, however, feel that the Joseph Gordon Levitt scenes were completely extraneous. I'm wondering if they've cut some of that part of the film out since I watched it. Any thoughts, Nordling?
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I did think those scenes were the weakest part of the movie - not terrible, and not a dealbreaker by any means, but pretty melodramatic and unnecessary. But they don't take up much time in the movie. I did like the reveal of the limbs, though, even though it's pretty obvious. Day-Lewis carries through those scenes with his customary amazing skills.
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Has Joseph G Levitt become what Speilberg hoped Shia Labeuf was going to be? A talented, hard working and excellent actor instead of a self important, bratty loudmouth. Levitt lets the work speak for itself instead of shooting off at the mouth and throwing his collaborators under the bus.
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If they go for another one of those melodramatic big americana moment crap, i'll turn off. It's such a deal breaker for me because i resent such cheap emotional manipulations. If, on the congrary, they will opt for a more subtle type of music, then appaluses would be in order.
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Nov. 8, 2012, 12:29 p.m. CST
Oh, well. So much for Ben Affleck winning an Oscar.
by SergeantStedenko
If this is as good as everyone is saying, there's no way it don't take home the Best Pic statue.
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Nov. 8, 2012, 12:29 p.m. CST
Waiting for a You Tube mash up of America, Fuck Yeah, and this movie.
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
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It's pretty subdued. There are no rousing moments of music, except perhaps at the end.
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I completly agree with you about "Munich". It is a great movie and one of Spielberg's best. And for a while i though it would herald a new turn in Spielberg's career. It was as if i was seeing Spielberg anew. I couldn't wait to see more movies from him made like that. But then he had to make the fucking Crystal Skull movie. And the creepy dead eyes CGI zombies movie TinTin. And the utterly exacrable horse movie! Fuck's sakes! Where is the Spielberg of Munich? Who killed him and replaced him with this bad pod version?
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This will be a good movie but please don't drink the kool-aid, people. The civil war was not fought to end slavery; slavery went on for years in the south and north but it was only when the south decided to cecede, sell its products elsewhere, and most importantly STOP PAYING MOST OF THE TAXES IN THE US that Lincoln, at the beckoning of his corporate masters, started a total war against the south. While slaves rebuilt the White House, Lincoln gave us jailing of dissidents, suspension of habeous corpus, shutting down newspapers, threatening a supreme court chief justice with prison, and total war against a civilian population with all the murder, rape, and pillaging Sherman's troops could handle. Lincoln also brought us the income tax, central banking, and the dawn of big government. Don't believe me? Do some reading outside of your high school textbook. So, I will likely watch this movie on DVD, but otherwise fuck you Spielberg, fuck you Doris Kearns Goodwin, fuck you Nordling for this propaganda piece, fuck you William Seward, and a special fuck you to Abe Lincoln, your corporate puppet psychopath. P.S. We live in a republic not a democracy. Idiots. Go read the Constitution before Obama and the Congress finish burning it.
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Thanks for the info, much apreciated. And let me praise your review. It's very good. Very good job. I used to be quite critical of your reviews in the past, but you have been taking me to school lately, with this and your wonderful Skyfall review (by the way,i also had the oportuity to watch Skyfall, and everythign you said in your review is spot on). Suddentlym out of the blue, you mature two decades as a reviewer and become my favorite and most sought after reviewer toghether with Ambush Bug. And considring how much respect i have for Ambush Bug, this is really a high compliment i'm giving you, good sir. Damn good job, man. Keep it up. Keep them coming. P.S.: The ending. Ahah, yes, well, Spielberg and endings. You can understand my reservations, can't you?
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Nov. 8, 2012, 12:43 p.m. CST
@Mr anal inflictor, your latest post truly reflects your nick.
by albert comin
Reading through it was as quite a pain in the ass.
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Both Bond and Lincoln appeal to the oldheads, but oldheads don't see many movies, so which will they choose? My guess is Bond. Especially after the election. Although, angry white male Republicans may want to see something to make themselves feel good about their party. Of course, a movie about freeing the slaves my not be what they want to see right now. Still going with Bond.
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Nov. 8, 2012, 12:55 p.m. CST
Good review Nordster but I can't but help think it's very objective seeing as we all know your love affair with Spielberg.
by peter
Sometimes I feel like he could punch you in the face and you'd still call it sunshine.
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It's a little bit like Homoer Simpson when he once said... "It's pronounced nu-cu-lar."
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Completely agreed, Nordling. He did a wonderful job in a role that seemed a bit shoved into the story. It needed either more screentime or less. I was more fascinated by the scenes of Lincoln and his youngest son... some of the best scenes in the film.
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Nov. 8, 2012, 12:57 p.m. CST
oops ment to say 'NOT' very objective. I guess that would make it 'Unobjective' wait... is that right!? you know what I mean. :)
by peter
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And that's fair. I saw LINCOLN twice, and I stand by my review. but that's fair.
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Nov. 8, 2012, 12:58 p.m. CST
Also as much as I REALLY want to see Lincoln, BOND WILL CRUSH THIS OVER THE WEEKEND. 1. Bond. 2. Lincoln. 3. Wreck-it-ralph
by peter
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Nov. 8, 2012, 1:03 p.m. CST
We should be happy that we have such a coice of great movies.
by Nordling
Not only SKYFALL, LINCOLN, and WRECK-IT RALPH, we have ARGO, CLOUD ATLAS 9fuck yall, I love it) and others. Can't lose.
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Nov. 8, 2012, 1:05 p.m. CST
Gidget as Aunt May and then Mary Todd Lincoln. I'm getting old and depressed.
by MichaelH
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Nov. 8, 2012, 1:11 p.m. CST
Yes I have to agree the fall is shaping up nicely. Still Bond and Lincoln I'm thinking a double feature is in order for tomorrow.
by peter
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EVERY Spielberg movie to date has had ad campaigns that looked conventionally 'been there, seen that' UNTIL you see the movie. That's his gift and he makes DAMN sure that the ads don't give the true heart of his films away.
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BTW, this is one of your best reviews. I am now looking forward to this film even more.
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Nov. 8, 2012, 1:38 p.m. CST
mjayace MJAYACE, you are a fucking idiot comparing systematic problems with our government with the racist ideologies of the fucking Repubs. Death to the GOP!
by uberfreak
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Nov. 8, 2012, 1:40 p.m. CST
ccchhhrrriiisssmredux. I just spoke with Spielberg and DDL and they both told me you were the biggest pussy on AICN TB's. BWAHAHA!
by uberfreak
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He and Mary lost two boys; Mary would lose her second oldest, Willie at age 18 after Abe was killed....a total of three boys....only Robert lived to an old man, died in 1927. No wonder she went mad. She had already lost an infant when they moved into the White House... poor, poor woman.
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Nov. 8, 2012, 1:57 p.m. CST
It doesn't really open up against Bond, that's only for the trendy LA / New York folk. It actually opens up against Twilight.
by Al
Cuz it goes wider the next weekend. Still, the flick looks like a bit of a bore. Also I'm not American so US patriotism flies right over my head.
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Nov. 8, 2012, 1:57 p.m. CST
Nordling, I'm happy there are so many good movies out right now, as well, but I want this to be a hit for Spielberg.
by SergeantStedenko
Let's face it, with all the hype and marketing that Bond has been getting of late with Skyfall and the 50th Anniversary, I don't see how Lincoln can compete and not get lost among all the other strong releases. I think it was a mistake to release it the same week as Bond. I hope I'm wrong.
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Nov. 8, 2012, 1:57 p.m. CST
When are we getting that epic Zachary Taylor/Millard Fillmore flick?
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
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I hate movies that ties itself into politics. They're just so biased most of the time. Nothing but propaganda. In times like these, audience need to know truth. They need to be given material that pushes them to think about history and how that history led to our current situation. We don't need the same patriotic junk over and over again.
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Are you trying to be funny? Witty? Or are you just pretending to be such an annoying prick and total asshole. I mean -- no one can be as stupid as you present yourself to be, right? As a black man, I find your claims of racism and "analysis" of Republicans and Conservatives to be full of shit and highly, well, racially motivated. Now, go pick up your welfare check and take your Obamacare bipolar meds while the rest of us go back to work to support you.
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And the Award for Best Actor goes to... Daniel Day-Lewis for his portrayal of Animatronic Disneyland Lincoln!
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Nov. 8, 2012, 5:57 p.m. CST
ccchhhrrriiisssmredux, almost every post you say, AS A BLACK MAN. You are not a black man. You are nothing.
by uberfreak
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Nov. 8, 2012, 5:59 p.m. CST
We will never have another GOP president. We have witnessed history. The demise of the fascist right in America.
by uberfreak
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Come say this to my face. I will show you my big black fist, you worthless liberal shrill. I pointed out my race because YOU are the asshole that always brings up race. You are a stupid idiot who understands nothing about politics, policy or administration except what you get spoon fed by David Axelrod or whoever's dick you happen to be sucking. Get a life, you ignorant muthafucker. Better yet: Get an education. That way, you won't annoy as many people with your non-facts and idiotic stereotypes.
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Yes, Lincoln was against slavery. But he favoured gradual emancipation, possibly even phasing it out over the course of a century. (Which in a sense is what ended up happening, if we count Jim Crow as an attenuated form of slavery.) And he didn't, at least initially, favour equal civil rights post-emancipation. Moreover, he said quite clearly, both privately and publicly, that although he hoped the war might end slavery, he was willing to throw the cause of emancipation under the bus if that were the price of holding the Union together. An abolitionist was someone with a PRINCIPLED commitment to IMMEDIATE abolition; Lincoln was not that, and never pretended to be that. I'm glad that circumstances ended up being such that he found it possible to indulge his antislavery sentiments, but that was really just luck. As for the question of whether the war was about slavery -- we need to ask: for whom? There are different groups to consider. I think that for the Confederate leadership, protecting slavery was absolutely central to their aim; the revisionist pro-Confederacy story just can;t stand up to the documentary evidence here. But for the Union leadership, eradicating slavery was peripheral to their aim; their goal was to hold the Union together, and just too bad if that meant giving up on emancipation. So the Union and the Confederacy EACH had highly unsavoury motives. (To be sure, for many ordinary citizens on both sides the motivations were in many cases nobler.) For evidence of my claims, see Jeff Hummel's book _Emancipating Slaves, Enslaving Free Men_, which is strongly anti-Union AND anti-Confederate.
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I believe you are a black guy and YOU get it. If I was a black guy, I would be utterly insulted at a party/gov't that constantly tells me that I can't do it, that I need a hand out, instead of a hand up, to succeed. When I was in service, I served alongside blacks, asians, whites and hispanics, and you know what, most were conservatives and nobody gave a flipping shit what color you were as you were judged by your character, and by your deeds. The one time I faced discrimination was by a bunch of douche bag white liberal college kids who screamed "baby killer" and threw shit at me. This was in the 90s, in uniform but I hadn't even served anywhere yet! Ha!
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Nov. 9, 2012, 4:05 p.m. CST
ccchhhrrriiisssmredux AKA Allen West, OK tough guy. BWAHAHA!
by uberfreak
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