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And We Have Our First Solid Rumor About Who Will Direct STAR WARS Episode VII...
Nordling here.
Steven Weintraub of Collider is good people. I can't speak for the veracity of his source, but I don't think he'd write about this unless he felt confident that the information was somewhat solid. 2015 is really not that far away, especially when planning a tentpole release like STAR WARS Episode VII, and I'd honestly be a little surprised if we didn't have some good indication of who the director of the next Episode would be by at least March of next year (and likely much sooner). So when Steven says, a la Collider, that:
I’m hearing that Matthew Vaughn, the director of Kick-Ass, Stardust, Layer Cake, and X-Men: First Class, is in talks with Lucasfilm to helm Star Wars: Episode VII. My sources tell me this is the main reason he dropped out of the X-Men sequel (which Bryan Singer is now directing).
then I'm inclined to think that somewhere in Lucasfilm Studios, the name's been thrown around a bit.
Steve goes on to say that this may well have been the reason that Vaughn dropped out of DAYS OF FUTURE PAST. However, Matthew Vaughn has dropped out of projects before, including THOR, and it could be pure conjecture as to why he left this time. Perhaps he felt stifled under Tom Rothman with FIRST CLASS and didn't feel inclined to repeat that stress (although Rothman is gone at Fox now). STAR WARS is a hell of a carrot to dangle in front of any director right now, and as it becomes obvious that this deal has been in the works for a while, Kathleen Kennedy and Disney may already have decided who they want. Again, more conjecture and rumor, but Vaughn sounds like a name that would at least be suggested.
As far as Vaughn's skills as a director go, STAR WARS would seem to be a decent fit for the man. He's tackled fantasy before and he also knows how to give the material the "grit" that STAR WARS fans may want. There certainly would be worse directors out there helming this material. What do you think? Would this be a good choice for the franchise?
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I wanna know who the writer is before celebrating
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Vader do you know where I live?
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:20 p.m. CST
Ditto on the writer... there are plenty of competent directors, but if the writing is crap...
by ChakaMudd
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Then fuck off.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:21 p.m. CST
Yep, this is more about who's writing than who's directing.
by jim loder
If there's a silver lining from some of the awful plots/characters/dialogue of the prequels, it's that writers of 7,8, and 9 should have a pretty clear idea of what not to do.
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Best SW movie ever
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said it before, saying it again
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Brad Bird is the only director that would do it right. He puts story and character before anything, and he still has a great direction for action. Being from animation would be perfect for Star Wars. Anyone else would just mess it up. Vaughn would try to put his stylish spin on it, not to mention gaping plot holes. I'm not a fan.
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I thought he was gonna direct Secret Service which is based of a Mark Millar comic, which happens to have Mark Hamill cameo.
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For this rumor to get out there. Heard it from someone indirectly connected SW the day after the sale hit the news. We'll see if it has any validity.
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How he handles the plot about a dispute over parking zones outside the new senate
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I'm fine with this. Layer Cake and Kickass kicked ass, and the other two were at least fun. And I mean seriously, who's going to pass up the offer of a two hundred million dollar budget and directing your childhood dream movie?
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To consult or something
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Anyone with a decent track record, just none of those "new" guys who seemingly stick their thin pencils into every doctored script these days.
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Kick Ass felt amateurish to me for the most part (excepting the awesome warehouse sequence).
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Couldn't bare to work that closely again with his baby momma January Jones and her stilted acting.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:28 p.m. CST
BTW, isn't it confirmed he dropped out to actually do another movie instead?
by D.Vader
I'd think he wouldn't drop out of X-Men if he wasn't locked in for Episode VII.
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Do the sequels of 7, 8, and 10 OR RE-DO 1, 2, and 3 (hey, they did it with spiderman, no?) First episode under the creativity of: Guillermo Del Toro Second episode with Vaughn. Last operatic monumental episode under the eye of Peter Jackson (who is a good friend of Lucas and very objective in decisions) Use this for the new sequels or the RE-DO of 1, 2, and 3.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:29 p.m. CST
I hope to God this is true. It is the ONLY reason to drop off of Xmen and KickAss sequels!
by Ali Kerim Bey
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Do the sequels of 7, 8, and 9 OR RE-DO 1, 2, and 3 (hey, they did it with spiderman, no?) First episode under the creativity of: Guillermo Del Toro Second episode with Vaughn. Last operatic monumental episode under the eye of Peter Jackson (who is a good friend of Lucas and very objective in decisions) Use this for the new sequels or the RE-DO of 1, 2, and 3.
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We need a director that can have fun with a film. Vaughn has a pickle up his ass 24/7 and you see it in his films
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:30 p.m. CST
just_some_guy, I would blame the writer for plot holes, not the director.
by DidntPullOutInTimeCop
I'm not really a fan of Stardust tho, between Gervais beeing himself (again) and DeNiro proving that he can't play anything but a tough guy, it was pretty shitty.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:30 p.m. CST
Roland Emmerich, perfect fit. You know it in your heart to be true.
by dr sauch
Think about it monkeys.
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Ideally I would love to see James Cameron's eye directing one, but seems like a hard thing to achieve.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:32 p.m. CST
A smokescreen for the true director of Episode VII, Brad Bird? They know I'm on to them!
by lv_426
In all seriousness though, I still say my Brad Bird/Damon Lindelof theory was a logical and sound one. Now it seems I was wrong about the idea of 1952 being a cover-up for Star Wars. Disney and Lucasfilm might not have much done at all on Episode VII to this point. That is kinda scary. It is not far away at all, especially if all they have is a basic trilogy story treatment from George. The good news is that Matthew Vaughn could be a worthy choice. Fassbender as a new character or villain perhaps? I'd support that notion. Also, 1952 sounds like it has potential to be a cool new sci-fi thing. So in the end, if both are made (obviously Star Wars ep. 7 is going to be made) then the better for us.
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I think he's got the best chance.
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Vaughn is an OK director; competent, nothing more. He's not that exciting a choice. Spielberg or nothing. They have to get a distinctive or big name director for Ep. 7 at least. After that, they can go with these B-list directors, but not before.
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good call DV
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If the script is good then I think he could do right by it.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:34 p.m. CST
If he can re-capture the energy and fun he had in STARDUST
by Logan_1973
Then he is a perfect fit. Totally on board with this choice.
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Verbinski's The Ring...good director. Verbinski's Pirates....predictable, overly complicated, boring, awful.
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He would knock it out of the park. Make this happen. Second choice? Brad Bird. Third choice? Hire a necromancer to re-animate Irvin Kershner.
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Only guy who can blend great action with the right amount of humor.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:36 p.m. CST
Good choice - X-Men was good, not great but good. By the way,
by rhizomeman
Redhead, we do not need someone whoc can have "fun with a film". We need someone who can add depth of character, which x-men achieved especially with Magneto.
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He will bow out due to studio pressure. Watch and see. Anyway-- Vaughn is fine, I guess, but we need to have a writer before we can even think about a director. My vote is Cuaron. For life.
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Pull my lightsaber.
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I just have to comment on this. That is great news. Kick-ass and X-men Origins were entertaining, funny with a lot of heart as well. You could really sympathise with the characters (even though they aren't quite average).
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If he had to leave First Class 2 I can accept it for this reason!!!
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That is all.
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Brad Bird, Matthew Vaughn, Gor Verbinski, these guys are totally competent directors, but not auteurs. Which I'm starting to think is what you want for SW. Could work. Could also backfire bad. these guys have all made shit.
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If I want a slick contemporary feel for a Star Wars movie that doesn't hold true to the original three, then I'll watch Phantom Menace or have Vaughn direct episode 7. Brad Bird will bring wonder back to Star Wars.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:39 p.m. CST
Also, Episode VII needs Ewan McGregor in old age make-up as the ghost of Obi-Wan.
by Mitch
That is all. (I mean it this time.)
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Yes, I'm sure you predicted a major villain would come back from the dead and turn into a hero, while another major hero would end up dying. Predictable my ass. Spectacle, yes indeed.
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I bet those 2 could bring the most amazing images and creativity.
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Won't be him. At least not for Ep. VII.
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But since this is a franchise too big for a director with his own vision for it, I kinda expected a choice like that.
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My apologies.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST
Vaughn for Episode VII, Aronfosky for Episode VIII, and then Spielberg or Cuarón for Episode IX
by lv_426
Then after that you'd have a new trilogy. I'm guessing that we'll have the following trilogies: - Sequel Trilogy (Episodes 7-9) - Spin-off Trilogy (individual stand alone SW flicks, like the Joe Johnston suggested Boba Fett movie, just as one possible example) - Old Republic Trilogy (three films set way back in the earlier days of the Old Republic) - Another Star Wars Holiday Special. To quote Brando's Col. Kurtz: The horror... the horror... That'd be about nine Star Wars films that if released two to three years apart from one another, will keep them busy for approx. 15-20 years.
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... except maybe the usual suspects. (ratner, mcg.)
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:43 p.m. CST
And... Matthew Vaughn is at the top of my realistic fantasy list for Episode VII. The man just gets it!
by Ali Kerim Bey
Matthew Vaughn gets cinematic flow and emotional subtext. I think he would be the best realistic choice for Star Wars. His last 2 films knocked it out of the park and shows that he gets hero/action/adventure genre. His previous 2 films before that were still very good as well. Others include some of the obvious: Peter Jackson - He also "gets it" and would make a fine Star Wars film no doubt. Although Hobbit/LOTR is his thing, doubt he'd do SW too. Brad Bird - Obvious choice Joss Whedon - With just the Avengers (and writing on Cabin In the Woods), he proved that he is a grossly capable director!! I would love to see him do Star Wars. It won't happen though, busy with Avengers2. PERHAPS- David Fincher - One of the finest directors out there. A few years ago I would say definitely, although a couple of his films didn't connect with me in the way I expected them to. I think his Star Wars would be too much of a wild card. Guillermo Del Toro - He has a great visual style that gets very specific at times, maybe too specific and distinctive for Star Wars. I also doubt the emotional depth he would provide. KEEP AWAY- Christopher Nolan - If I hear boring Dark Knight or Nolan's name one more time around beloved franchises I'm going to start killing. Nolan's style to me is cold and boring. If it weren't for Heath Ledger The Dark Knight is just a bland piece of steak without seasoning.
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Has anyone thrown this name around? I really liked John Carter and think it made a perfect Star Wars film without having to maintain continuity with Lucas' insanity.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:43 p.m. CST
Of course, they've also hinted at George's proposed Episodes 10, 11, and 12
by lv_426
So we could potentially add Sequel Trilogy II to the roster. Seriously, that is a shitload of Star Wars.
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...just kidding. Although I bet pre-stoner Kev could have at least WRITTEN a decent Star Wars story.
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Whether this new news had anything to do with it that remains to be seen but Vaughn's wife wanted him nowhere near Jones
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:44 p.m. CST
If anyone mentions Christopher Nolan or boring Dark Knight in relation to Star Wars....I will lose it :)
by Ali Kerim Bey
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:45 p.m. CST
Honestly, I could see Francis Lawrence end up helming one of the sequels
by D.Vader
Constantine and I Am Legend aren't bad for studio effects' pictures. We'll see how Hunger Games 2 pans out, but he's good with effects and "moments", and he's a studio director. I could see him being courted.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:46 p.m. CST
Give it to Lucas back. Or bring Spielberg. Otherwise, don't bother at all.
by Proman1984
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:46 p.m. CST
Until we know the writer, it's hard to react. Any decent director would be fine as long as the script is good.
by Mark Jones
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:46 p.m. CST
I would do unspeakable things for a James Cameron Star Wars trilogy
by Stephen
but he's too far gone into avatar I think
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:47 p.m. CST
Matthew Vaughn's camerawork in Kick Ass was obvious and amateurish at times
by D.Vader
I often felt like I was watching a big budget movie by a film school student.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:47 p.m. CST
you people are funny. Everyone knows blockbuster films like these don't need scripts!
by Kevin Spellman
They just make it up as they go along!
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:47 p.m. CST
How can a geek want anybody else but JJ Abrams? JJ Abrams or nobody, you fucking apostates!!
by albert comin
How dare you call yourselves geeks, you bunch of Judas!
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tru-dat.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:48 p.m. CST
Meh -- Not an exciting name... but could be much, much worse.
by Lucky13
Like others have said, the writer will really make or break it at this point. Can't wait for more news/rumors though.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:49 p.m. CST
If Vaugn is Directing lets have jane Goldman do the script
by Julian Gratton
Vaughn is nothing without Goldman... she's an amazing screenwriter and huge comic book/sci-fi fan
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:49 p.m. CST
VAUGHN DID AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH X-MEN: FIRST CLASS AND AS LONG AS JANE GOLDMAN'S TITS ARE INVOLVED I'M HAPPY!!!FACT!!!
by CreepyThinManForever
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He's like the chinese food of directors...good but forgettable after one serving...
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What if there happened to be a team of directors? For some strage reason I have a feeling we'll have a director, but later find out there are actually 2 or maybe even 3 on a project like this. We'll get an announcement like Vaughn, and find out he's working on it, but later get another announcement that whiel Vaughn is still in thepicture _______ (fill in the blank) will be the main director...or something along those lines. Different, but similar to how we heard Lucas tapped into some of his buddies for ROTS.
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NOT.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:50 p.m. CST
Peter Jackson would do a good job, but will he be worn out from three Hobbit films in a few years?
by lv_426
Perhaps he will want to make a smaller film and take some time off by that point? By then it will be near nearly 2020. I also kind of hope that Jackson gets involved with a Halo movie at some point after his Hobbit trilogy is done. Either as producer again, or perhaps as a director. Blomkamp probably won't return to Halo, as it seems he was too pissed off about the way it turned out. I kind of think Blomkamp's style isn't right for either Halo or Star Wars. He certainly knows how to get a lot of bang for the buck though. Thing is, these Star Wars films aren't going to skimp on budgets, so a District 9 lower budget type scenario might not apply that well to the overall saga. Blomkamp might be good for one of the spin-off SW films. Let Joe Johnston do his Boba Fett bounty hunter adventure, while Blomkamp does a grittier war film set in the Star Wars universe told from the perspective of a Republic Commando or something along those lines.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:50 p.m. CST
d.vader, FRANCIS LAWRENCE IS A FUCKING HACK!!! KEEP THAT MTV MUSIC VIDEO STYLE FUCKFACE AWAY FROM STAR WARS!!! GIVE IT TO THE WACHOWSKI'S!!!FACT!!!
by CreepyThinManForever
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Red Cliff meets Face Off in space
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...I would have Tarantino do a movie...not necessarily an episode, but a STAR WARS film...I just salivated thinking of the potential...
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That the 1952 project is really Episode VII?
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This site has really gone to hell. Vaughn left to do SECRET SERVICE....which will also feature Mark Hamill. Its gonna be a loooong time till 2015 if we have to have a talkback for every bullshit rumor that comes along......
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Nothing in I Am Legend or Constantine looks like a music video, Creepy.
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He captured the Lucasfilm-styled magic in Willow. I think he'd be a good option too. But I agree with what is being said here... comes down to the script and who is writing it.
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The guy is great at setting the tone and I think he would rise to the occasion and not turn it into something silly.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:54 p.m. CST
It would never happen in a billion years, but a Terry Gilliam Star Wars movie would make my day.
by Danny Boil
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He'd want to rewrite the whole thing and tell his own story. He's an auteur.
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Honestly, at this point I could care less. I'm still riding the high from the news that we'll get more Star Wars in the next decade, and a possible Bluray release for the OT theatrical cuts. But for some reason I really want to see ali lose his shit, so Nolan all the way. ;)
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be OK IF he doesn't act too flaky. He's flaky as a biscuit, sometimes. How many movies is he gonna quit??? First X-Men 3, then 'X-Men: Days of Future Past'. Star Wars needs a definite, surer hand to guide it for the next 3 films. Bird did a great job with 'Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol'.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST
Dude ... I would promptly water my pants if Vaughn directed the next Star Wars
by Halloween68
He's one of the few directors that hasn't let me down yet. The Cohen's have their Intolerable Cruelty, Lynch has his Inland Empire, Gilliam has his Brothers Grimm, Jackson has his Mimic, etc. The low light of Vaughn's career so far is Stardust and being a producer on the Guy Richie turd, Swept Away. Kick Ass, X-Men and Layer Cake's a pretty sweet rockin' resume if you ask me. Maybe he can get Vinnie Jones to play a sith lord. Vaughn would definitely up the coolness factor of Star Wars. There certainly won't be any Jar Jar's and awful kid actors for the sake of cuteness in his movies.
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I wouldn't go with Fincher anyway.
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If he wants to go back to blockbusters and away from Oscar-bait dramas.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:56 p.m. CST
MY PICKS FOR THE STAR WARS DIRECTING GIG!!! JAMES CAMERON, KENNETH BRANAGH, JOE JOHNSTON, JOSS WHEDON, WACHOWSKI'S, SHANE BLACK, DARREN ARONOFSKY, GASPAR NOE!!!FACT!!!
by CreepyThinManForever
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:56 p.m. CST
Hey, you know, just because I loved Argo so much, and it's a shitty Star Wars-esque movie they make up...
by Danny Boil
No, maybe not Ben Affleck. Although I sure do dig his action stuff, too.
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hes the perfect vanilla zzzzzzzz choice.
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Whether it's an official episode or his own thing.... I think he would be my first choice to helm a Star Wars film.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:57 p.m. CST
booger_t ppJohn Woo, if he brought his Red Cliff game could be awesome
by lv_426
Both John Woo and Darren Aronosky are two really interesting choices that I can't seem to shake. Sure they'd be a risk compared to say Vaughn, Whedon, or Jackson, but could really bring something new to Star Wars.
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Or she plays some other original Skywalker, if they choose to ignore EU.
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He's Lucas' buddy and was always seen as THE director in the Star Wars era. Spielberg was asking to direct the prequels but "George wouldn't let me."
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I have no idea who should direct so I will give bad suggestions. No Brett Ratner, Woody Allen? Rob Zombie? Tim Burton's gothic star wars? Byran Cranston directed the office. James Cameron would actually be a decent choice if he wasn't busy. Really need someone good with action and special effects but everyone complained about wooden acting in the prequels. The director will be a hired hand with no creative control of their own, kids will love the new movies, but adults will nitpick it to death
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John Woo could do the epic finale of the trilogy. Aronofsky or Fincher might be good for the darker middle chapter. The Empire of the trilogy if you will.
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You mean like when he made that little no-budget indie short "King Kong" after he finished LOTR? No, he'd be fine jumping on some massive project after he finishes The Hobbit Pentalogy (What? You didn't know he's bumped it to 5 films?). After the bloat we got with Kong though I'm not sure I'd want Peter Jackson anywhere near SWVII after he's pulled a stretch run on another Tolkien book. It seems to leave him thinking too big for his own good.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:59 p.m. CST
For the love of God, no auteurs please! We really don't need a SW trilogy overshadowed by it's director.
by Mark Jones
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Nov. 5, 2012, 2:59 p.m. CST
d.vader, ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING OR ARE YOU HIGH AS FUCK?!? LAWRENCE'S MOVIES ARE MTV FROM THE CINEMATOGRAPHY, EDITING, DESIGN WORK ETC...!!! YOU MIGHT AS WELL HAVE SAID RATNER, MCG, SNYDER OR BAY!!!FACT!!!
by CreepyThinManForever
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Those directors are not a good fit and probably wouldn't be interested anyway, since they have their own big tentpole movies under their wings. Mathew Vaughn is a good choice, Brad Bird would also be a good fit, but I personally, would like to see them pick someone who has a bit more of an edge to them.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3 p.m. CST
Well Nordling, looks like we've got another 900+ reply hungry angry baby of a Star Wars talkback in the incubation stages
by lv_426
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3 p.m. CST
KEEP FINCHER THE FUCK AWAY FROM THIS!!! I DON'T WANT THE MOVIE TO BE SHOT IN SHADES OF PISS YELLOW AND SHIT BROWN!!!FACT!!!
by CreepyThinManForever
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:01 p.m. CST
MATTHEW VAUGHN IS A FLAKE, WHO CAN'T RUN A FILM SET, AND I WOULDN'T WANT HIM INVOLVED IN MY $4B INVESTMENT IF I'M DISNEY.
by Darth Busey
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but Aronofsky....
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:03 p.m. CST
Let's not simply name every good director from the last 20 odd years though.
by Mark Jones
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:03 p.m. CST
I'D LOVE TO SEE FINCHER DO "SOMETHING" IN THE SW UNIVERSE SOME DAY, BUT HE HAS TOO MUCH STYLE FOR THE MAIN FRANCHISE.
by Darth Busey
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Gore Verbinski- proven track record for big budget FX films for Disney Brad Bird- great working relationship with Disney, great with story Andrew Stanton- great working relationship with Disney, great with story, and despite John Carter (which I think was great), it had the feel of a Star Wars film. Ron Howard- Oscar-winning director, has worked with Lucas before, has done fantasy before. Solid. Jon Favreau- What does he have coming up next? JJ Abrams- Could be courted to do for Star Wars what he did for Star Trek Joseph Kosinksi- TRON: Legacy looked great (working relationship with Disney), he's young and can be guided/shepherded/controlled NOT FOR EPISODE VII but maybe EPISODE VIII Joss Whedon- made big bucks for Disney with Avengers but is making Avengers 2 NOT GOING TO HAPPEN James Cameron- he has AVATAR Guillermo Del Toro- he has a billion other projects Christopher Nolan- NO. He wouldn't take it and he's wrong for it. David Fincher- NO. He wouldn't take it and he's wrong for it. Peter Jackson- NO. He'd be great for it, but he wouldn't take it.
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Vaughn is a great director, I'd love to see him try a Star Wars film. Thank fuck they're not letting Bay or Ratner near it.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:05 p.m. CST
Impressive...Most impressive. Great crowd pleasing choice for director. If he pulls this off, he's on Mt. Geekmoore.
by AzulTool
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Vaughn is not.
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I just had Constantine on in the background. There's nothing there about the direction or editing that looks like the type of MTV music video you are describing. You're really reaching here.
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X-Men is basically ready to roll, its scripted, mostly casted, etc. Stars Wars is almost 3 years away with no script, seems like he could have easily done both.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:07 p.m. CST
HERE'S AN IDEA!!! VAUGHN DIRECTS BUT GET JANE GOLDMAN (AND HER MAGINIFICENT TITS!!!) TO CO-SCRIPT WITH STEVE MOFFAT AND MARK GATISS WHO DID A FUCKING AMAZING JOB ON SHERLOCK!!!FACT!!!
by CreepyThinManForever
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:08 p.m. CST
smartacus -- my reasoning is that while he did King Kong, he planned to do The Lovely Bones after LOTR
by lv_426
Wasn't it that the opportunity to finally make King Kong came along right after Rings? Being that the original Kong was the film that inspired his filmmaking endeavors in the first place, it isn't surprising that he jumped on the chance to do a remake, even though it was another mega-budget project. Who knows though, he could go for another big movie project. after LOTR. Like I said though, he could very well be courted for a big budget Halo movie after The Hobbit trilogy makes a bunch of money. Plus he has The Dambusters remake he was producing, and the Temeraire fantasy books that he bought the film rights to a few years ago.
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Ratner maybe, but that's bc Ratner doesn't have a style at all. There's no hyper-editing in his films that I can think of.
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It would fucking rule. I can't see it happening, but it would be fucking awesome.
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Needs to be spot on. The great thing about A New Hope and Empire was that it appealed to both young and old. The introduction of the Ewoks is where the franchise "jumped the Rancor". Sith proved that you can have all the great CGI in the world but if the writing and acting aren't there then you just have a nice looking moving painting.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:11 p.m. CST
Lawrence has a lot of talent in the technical department, he just never got a good script to match.
by Randy
I do think he has a lot in common with Fincher, but he really needs to find that right project that proves his direction isn't the problem with his films.
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is okay. but he can never be forgiven for CGing those vampires when actors in makeup would have been 1000x more convincing 1000x scarier and way cheaper too! What a douche.
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STAR WARS TIME NIGGA
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I was upset about Vaughn leaving First Class 2(he made, IMO, the best Xmen movie to date), but this news makes sense of that, if it is indeed true. I'm not a huge fan of Kick Ass, but that said I just think it's "ok", I've got no real issues with it other than it just didn't grab me. I LOVE First Class, and my wife is an undying apologist for Stardust. Give this man the project, I promise it will be the best Star Wars movie you've seen since Jedi. No dount about that. Just don't hand one of these movies over to someone like Bret Ratner, for Christ's sake.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:12 p.m. CST
Magneto works in First Class bc of flashbacks to the childhood trauma
by D.Vader
Flashbacks do not exist in Star Wars.
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I was really hoping for that Brad Bird theory to be true...
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:13 p.m. CST
Bree Ratner's movies suck, but I've never looked at them and thought...
by D.Vader
"Hmm, that looks like a music video director."
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:13 p.m. CST
d.vader, ARE YOU LAWRENCE OR WORK FOR HIM BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'D BE SUCKING THAT HACKS DICK UNLESS YOU ARE IN FACT SUCKING HIS COCK?!?FACT!!!
by CreepyThinManForever
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Last week Millar wrote on twitter after the news broke that he had spoken to Vaughn and that Vaughn had told him that directing a Star Wars movie was his dream project and that he was going to go after the job. Vaughn is a huge Star Wars fan and visited the set of Empire when he was 8 years old.
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AND I WANT THIS JOB, DAMNIT!
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Actually, I really don't care, but this meme will be obligartory for any Star Wars related news.
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Force QT to make a pg movie.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:16 p.m. CST
seriously why the fuck did francis lawrence CG those fuckin retarded looking vampires
by Stephen
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST
VAUGHN would an even better choice if he brings along MICHAEL FASSBENDER and JENNIFER LAWRENCE into Ep. VII
by hollywoodsummers
Fassbender would be SICK as a Jedi master, or Sith, or even a fucking droid! Jennifer Lawrence is my top choice to play a Skywalker offspring. She'd "kick ass" better than some CW reject.
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And it all comes down to the fact that one of the suits wanted the vampires to be able to extend their jaw like a python, and that's something you can't do with makeup effects.
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The James Cameron before he went all weak shit Lucas-izing himself with such forgetables as Titanic and Avatar. Bring back the man that did T2, Aliens, The Abyss, etc.
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I'm not recommending it, I'm saying imagine it. Or Bobcat Goldthwait
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Send in that floating Sith Lord.
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Branagh would be especially great for the darker second film in the trilogy. He could perhaps deliver, with a good script of course, and Empire type SW film (darker, more focus on characters and thematic elements).
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:19 p.m. CST
d.vader you mean like in every other stupid pulp throwaway since The Mummy?
by Stephen
dumb ass shit. And yes you can do it with practical effects.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:19 p.m. CST
It'll be good to have a nice, subtlety subversive SW movie to be released during Magic Mitt's third year in office. I imagine we'll all be ready for it by then.
by AzulTool
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It was Clockwork Orange for the post-aughts, middle finger extended. Layer Cake is one of those movies I can't help but watching whenever it pops up. Matthew Vaughn has more than enough depth.
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We need some grown-ups on this thing.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:20 p.m. CST
Luke as a force ghost or as mentor is the way it's got to be.
by DarthBlart
Has to be Luke passing the knowledge, finishing the Skywalker prophecy.
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Even though Looper was a letdown for me, I think Rian Johnson would be a solid choice. <p> I've never been impressed with Vaughn. Layer Cake is his best film. First Class was ok but felt cheap. As did Kick Ass. I don't understand how anyone can think Kick Ass is anything more than mediocre. Plus, Vaughn seems to walk off projects close to shooting time. I wouldn't want him attached to a huge project. He'll get cold feet at some point.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:21 p.m. CST
BTW, I would be surprised if Spielberg would ever direct one of these films.
by Ingeld
In the same way that Marion recognizes that "that time has past," Spielberg knows there is no way he can get ahead by playing along now. Belloc-Lucas now works for the Disney Reich. Spielberg would have to answer to Der Maus.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:22 p.m. CST
chickenstu, KENNETH BRANAGH WOULD BE IDEAL FOR STAR WARS GIVEN HIS SHAKESPEAREAN EXPERIENCE WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVED ABOUT THOR!!! DID YOU NOTICE HOW THOR WAS STRUCTURED LIKE THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK?!?FACT!!! IN THAT.....
by CreepyThinManForever
The beginning of Thor opens with a big battle (on an ICE PLANET!) and as the film progresses the fights get smaller until the final between Thor and Loki is just two guys wailing on each other but the emotional dynamics of two brothers battling it out has more resonance than anything that has came before. Same thing with Empire; Starts with the battle of Hoth (ICE PLANET!) has a few skirmishes before climaxing with Luke and Vader which is soo powerful because Luke is out for revenge and, of course, the revelation that Vader is his father. Kenneth Branagh is perfectly suited to the Star Wars universe.
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Star Wars Angry Birds app
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:24 p.m. CST
'Forgettables as Titanic and Avatar'. LMFAO.
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
Whatever else can be said about those films, they were hardly forgettable. They left a massive impression in the zeitgeist and were hugely popular. But, yes, Cameron (any era) would be ideal, but of course it will never happen. I'm looking forward to the Avatar sequels and the Star Wars sequels trading blows over the coming decade, though.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:24 p.m. CST
creepythinmanforever -- you're right, X-Men FC was basically a Star Wars movie in the X-Men setting
by lv_426
Fassbender was definitely a Anakin/Vader type character. Shit, by the end he puts on the cool Magneto helmet and wears a fucking cape. Had the Star Wars prequels been made a few years later, then James McAvoy would have been a good alternate choice for the young Obi-Wan Kenobi.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:26 p.m. CST
what about in FC when somebody said slave and then showed the black guy
by Stephen
who's fault was that. I want to know.
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I'm pretty much convinced that is the right way to go, and I was never even a huge fan of his films. But he can give a Star Wars film the visual scope and theatricality it deserves.
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They actually filmed it with actors in makeup, but the end result ended up looking kind of schlocky, so the CGI vamps were a bit of a last minute fix.
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Thawed from cryogenic stasis. He should be the chief protagonist of the SW sequels.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:30 p.m. CST
Somewhere JJ Abrhams is masterbating furiously hoping to get the call
by Crooooooow
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I feel safe in saying that.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:31 p.m. CST
Only my opinion counts and I say Vaughn would be a solid choice.
by Pigdog
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:31 p.m. CST
Of course, that would mean recasting a young actor for a young Han Solo
by lv_426
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If they had a decent director who cared about the actual acting process they would have turned out better. I mean Lucas was more concerned with the effects then we was with the acting. he only did a couple of takes for each scene and left it up to the actors to the work. Which is why everything is so stilted and bland.
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Can the writing be worse than that? The way. I see it, we can only go up from here.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:32 p.m. CST
I would love to see a Tarantino SW movie but it would probably destroy the franchise and universe
by Stephen
because it wouldn't fit and nobody would be able to follow it. if QT played PG I dont even want it.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:33 p.m. CST
I agree with the writing being more important than direction
by Joey Stars
We don't need an auteur coming in a putting his own flavor on Star Wars. Seriously, only Star Wars nerds can recall who directed Empire or Return of the Jedi. I'm surprised that not many people are making the case for David Yates. The man directed half the Harry Potter movies and delivered the motherfucking goods with Deathly Hallows. He's proven he can shepherd a billion dollar special-fx children's franchise (which is what Star Wars is - admit it) and give it a dark edge (which will satisfy the adult fans) so from a business standpoint, he would be a no-brainer. And will the close minded people can the Brad Bird or no one bullshit. Incredibles & Iron Giant are masterpieces but MI: Ghost Protocol was hugely overrated, mediocre, vanilla fare. I'm sure he'd do a good job but there are many directors who would do well with Star Wars.
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Lord of the Tie Fighters here we come!
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Vaughn is okay but we can do better.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:35 p.m. CST
turd -- I think Avatar II and beyond will still make a fucking shitload of cash when they are released, but now it seems they really do have some stiff competition with more Star Wars looming on the horizon
by lv_426
Ideally they'd work it out so that one year, we'd get an Avatar, then the next a Star Wars. Alternate every other year. It is kind of silly that we'll possibly be getting Avengers 2, Avatar II, and Star Wars Episode VII all in 2015.
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There I said it. He could totally pull it off.
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Han and Lando sit around a gambling table playing baccarat (or whatever that card game is in the Star Wars universe) for an two hours, and make references to alien pop culture. Followed by a brief and anticlimactic blaster battle that lasts for about two seconds, in an attempt to be 'subversive' and undercut the expected tropes of a SW movie. Cut to credits, with a salsa-arranged version of Lapti Nek playing over it.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:40 p.m. CST
On second thought.... they should remake the Prequels directed by Matt Reeves or the guy who directed Let the Right Ones In
by Joey Stars
and have Anakin Skywalker portrayed as an evil killing, demon seed child that he should have been.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:40 p.m. CST
booger_t -- what happens if the Mass Effect and Halo movies are also released in 2015?
by lv_426
Will all our balls explode in unison?
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He would bring everything you would need to get star wars back to basics.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:41 p.m. CST
Fuck, add Paradise, the Prometheus sequel to the 2015 space opera roster
by lv_426
Even though it isn't space opera.
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We got bland, studio product with the last 3 films. We need crew that understand how to implement theatricality and romanticism, how to create mood with light and shadow.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:44 p.m. CST
lv-426, I think that kind of competition is a good thing
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
It will inspire the best work out of both productions. Since I'm a fan of both, it's all win/win for me. Add Avengers 2/Marvel, Justice League, a Prometheus sequel, and others that might appear around that time (possibly Interstellar, Blade Runner 2, etc.), and it's going to get crazy. It's a great time to be a fan of sci-fi/ fantasy regardless of how it all shakes out.
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Someone with an immaculate record is my choice. "Stardust" was inconsistent, as was "X-Men: First Class". If you can get Bird, you get a director with the proven skill to manage the emotional aspects of the story, as well as the chops to manage the action-heavy stuff.
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I'd say yes, our balls would collectively explode if that occurred, no matter if you play videogames or not.
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bill murray (older jedi) and jason schwartzman (new apprentice).
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I mean look what he did with Trek and BSG.
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THAT logic computes.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:49 p.m. CST
Oh yeah, don't forget Bryan Singer's Battlestar Galactica remake as well
by lv_426
That could be coming in the next few years. How fucking insane would that be? Star Wars and BSG on the big screen, both on pretty much equal footing for once in terms of having the best technical capabilities of modern moviemaking at their disposal.
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did you guys know he turned down Star Trek The Motion Picture? Blew my mind when I found out.
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No. As much as I love the guy, up until Star Trek 2, he had little concept of space sci-fi. It wasn't until he realized Kirk was like Captain Hornblower that he could wrap himself around the project. Star Trek 2 is thereby a naval movie set in space. Listen to the interviews and the commentary on the DVD. I love Meyer but I don't think he is right for Star Wars. If Leigh Bracket were still alive, that would sooner be my choice followed by Lawrence Kasdan.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:51 p.m. CST
Vaughn dosen't have a relationship with anyoneat Lucasfilm, so it's not likely
by Jason McDonald
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:51 p.m. CST
Then there is that Wachowski space opera sounding project, Jupiter Rising
by lv_426
So add another one to potential cosmic/space opera flicks that could surface in the coming years.
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Remember all those posts? Yeah, so much for that.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:52 p.m. CST
they'll be making documentaries about the Space Opera renaissance
by Stephen
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The concept of foreshadowing and setting up threads to be explored in further movies is completely lost on the man.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:52 p.m. CST
Cuaron would be my first choice, also based on Children Of Men. Vaughn seems a little too tongue-in-cheek with Stardust and Kick Ass, but there are scenes in First Class
by openthepodbaydoorshal
that are indeed....first class. So, no problem. And the guys who directed Empire and Jedi, weren't exactly setting the world on fire with their work.
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My point is his Trek movies are very much about the characters and less about the spectacle. Which is a complete 180 of what Lucas did in the prequels. His trek films had a bit of Shakespeare and Romance to them.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:55 p.m. CST
la_sith -- that is mainly because until now, Star Wars was just Lucas
by lv_426
who said he wasn't making anymore proper SW films, dicked around talking about the live-action TV series, and just kept spamming us with lame merchandising tie-ins. Now the game has changed. Of course, there will still be some crap thrown our way via Disney's massive merchandising machine, but overall things look positive in that we are getting new movies and most likely the original trilogy finally remastered and put out in high-def.
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Kick Ass was terrible and. First Class was just good not great, good. Get someone who doesn't seem to drop out of things at a the sign of someone telling him no.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 3:59 p.m. CST
Spielberg and John Williams for 7-9... Won't you be pissed if Williams does 3 shitty Spielberg films that aren't Star Wars?
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4 p.m. CST
booger_t, you will be waiting a long time for a Carpenter comeback
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
I saw an interview with him recently, and it was one of the most depressing things I'd ever seen (when it comes to filmmakers, anyway). The guy seemed like he was ready to completely throw in the towel, totally a shell of his former self. Carpenter doesn't care about ANYTHING these days, except playing his X Box and watching basketball.
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Another few minutes of philosophy, only tangentially related to feet. Character dies before end of first act..
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maybe Kurt Russell can talk him out of it with a good new Escape From ________ treatment?
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:02 p.m. CST
Why is Hollywood putting young talent to sequels, remakes and reboots? These people should be creating new worlds! Keep that boy on the Kick-Ass universe!
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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That's why Firefly is so popular. No need to run it through the Tarantino meat-grinder.
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They guy seems to get it right most times.
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Seriously. And I give him credit in that I know he could be true to the Lucas' style and yet inject his own brand of tension, humor and action.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:04 p.m. CST
Hollywood! Where authorship is a dirty word!
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:04 p.m. CST
All Disney will want from a director is someone to steady the ship and get it into the cinemas in good order.
by Pigdog
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:04 p.m. CST
lol at so many people on the tarantino thing like it would ever actually happen
by Stephen
Ahhh, early rumors and speculation, how I've missed thee
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Guys, the key thing to get your heads around is this is a FRANCHISE in the strictest sense of the word. No wriggle room for any would-be auteurs. Both Disney and Lucasfilm will hire a director who is competent but also CONTROLLABLE. Forget visionaries who will toil and shape and probably go over budget and over schedule. This era of Star Wars is going to be akin to a sausage making factory - get the movies out on time and make sure they sell all the requisite toys and merchandise. To that end, someone like Krasinski is going to be ideal. I'm certain it will be a director lower down the scale who can deliver on schedule and most importantly take orders from Disney brass.
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I agree, it sucks that he is not excited about filmmaking anymore. At the same time though, I can appreciate his honesty about the bullshit that comes with making films in this day and age. *Eli Roth and his Hollywood hair.*
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:06 p.m. CST
Spielberg's current classic style is perfect for Star Wars, plus we get a John Williams guarantee. Get that man some telomerase.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Hey, ya never know. Just a month ago, we all thought Star Wars was dead.
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Spielberg and Lucas are close friends, like friends for the past 40 years plus! Steven won't 'out-direct' his close friend which is EXACTLY what would happen as Episode VII would be fucking badass!! but he knows it and everyone else does too so it will NEVER HAPPEN IN THIS LIFETIME!! which is a total bummer, but i say fuk lucas and show him how its done Spielberg!!! COWBOY UP SON!!!
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Kick-Ass was designed specifically to piss you off. I'm so glad it did.
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Imagine the mopeyness that Luke's offspring would bring. Young Ben Skywalker walks in the shadow of his fathers success of destroying the first Death Star. He also has the hint of evil that destroyed his grandfather. With the help of the ghostly trio and an aging Luke, will the heir to the Skywalker legacy be able to overcome his doubts, and charm the pants off of the new Republic ace pilot whom he's secretly in love with? Also, the whole your grand daddy was Vader is kept a secret from him. He gets clues about this in the first movie but that is completely sidesteped in favor of a half rancor-half man sub plot. He also abandons his quest to find the 'phantom menace' who kills his cousin Anakin Solo.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:10 p.m. CST
The problem with Cuaron is that his style is too faux dirty. Slick, filtered footage with dirt smudge makeup...
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Directors aside, I agree with a few fellow posters, it is all in the script! Growing up with the original triology, they have everything in the right amounts and order i.e Action, Comedy, Romance a start, middle and end. I found the new movies to be too heavily based on political views and pretty lackluster in most places with characters I couldnt care less about. Which makes me think how will 7, 8, 9 go, obviously Ford and gang will not be making the rounds so will there be new characters completely or will new people be playing older Luke, Han etc Im both excited and worried!!!
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:11 p.m. CST
STOP WITH FUCKING BRAD BIRD!!! HE IS FUCKING BULLSHIT FOR EPISODE VII!!!
by wannabedirector
....seriously he is the biggest ass dildo in Mickey Mouse's collection, and its a BIG FUCKING COLLECTION!!!
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:12 p.m. CST
pipple, PUSSY CAN WAIT, STAR WARS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS!!!FACT!!!
by CreepyThinManForever
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:12 p.m. CST
David Yates movies are way too desaturated, handheld, fugly.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:13 p.m. CST
I like the Mike Stoklaza (mr. plinkett) suggestion, plinket-proof these new movies in pre-production!
by Rebel Scumb
Although the prequel reviews were so funny they actually make me thankful the prequels exist and are so terrible
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:13 p.m. CST
Looks Like Marketsaw's Source Was Legit in Light of This.... Link
by IDIOTMAGNET
http://marketsaw.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/more-spotlight-on-potential-director-of.html Could be what was said there was all legit info. Interesting....
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:13 p.m. CST
Any director that has the modern Zimmer score style in their movies is a no.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:14 p.m. CST
If it is Vaughn for VII, I'm crossing my fingers for Darren Arnofsky or Alfonso Cuarón for Episode VIII.
by hollywoodsummers
They would be great for the darker second act of the trilogy. Then you could even bring in Spielberg to close out the trilogy, he's said he always wanted to direct a SW film and even directed the pre-viz for the Anakin/Obiwan duel in III.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:15 p.m. CST
Well I guess new mediocre Star Wars is better than Prequel Star Wars
by CT1
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:16 p.m. CST
lv_426, yeah I think that was the one...
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
It's the one where he talks about David Cronenberg snubbing him at a party or something. It was a sad sight to see, anyway. He's not made much that was good since 1988, but he had some interesting things on his schedule and I was hoping he might get his second wind, but its looking unlikely now.
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I should have been more clear. Its not necessarily about the flashback so much as it is the jumps in time. That doesn't happen in Star Wars. There are no flashbacks in Star Wars. Each Episode takes place over a short period of time. There's no jumping back and forth across a decade of time. I pointed that out with X-Men bc you said that's how Anakin should have been done- older, angrier, with childhood trauma. A more accurate comparison would be if we NEVER saw Magneto as a kid and only heard about it. Or if in Star Wars, we saw Anakin as a kid and then as an adult (but in the same movie). But that kind of storytelling just doesn't exist in the Star Wars movies.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:18 p.m. CST
Must be a classical style director. Forget about cuaron aronofsky and all those camera shakers
by Jose
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Yep, looks like Vaughn is in talks. Kick Ass was just okay. I only fast-forward to watch the Hit Girl parts, the rest of it is meh. I liked First Class a little better but it was not without it's problems. I agree that Mr. Plinkett should be involved to make damn sure these new films make sense.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:19 p.m. CST
Star Wars: Episode 7....the 9th film by Quentin Tarentino!!!
by kindofabigdeal
Instead of an opening scroll crawl we start in black. We hear two voices talking in what appears to sound like a restaurant. One is speaking in Bachi. When the screen opens up we see a human female and an alien sitting at the diner Obi Wan visits in episode 2. The scene ends with a conversation about Alanna Calrissians pop single being a metaphor for big clouds and a shoot out with blasters. The second act follows a depraved bounty hunter out for revenge against the Hutt who betrayed him. That act ends with a massive fire in the galactic senate. The third act takes us to Tattooine where we meet Lloyd Skywalker and his young wife who he can't do right by. He is a talented pod racer but lousy at gambling. One day his dept gets so big that he has no choice but to agree to throw the big race. Instead he takes his wife and attempts to flee. They are unable to both make it to his transport and he abandons his wife, whom he just learned is with child. A wing alien takes her as payment and in the end we learn her name is Smee. Que surfer music to credits.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:21 p.m. CST
I highly doubt Arnofsky would shoot a SW film like The Wrestler.
by hollywoodsummers
I don't remember a shaky cam in The Fountain.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:22 p.m. CST
kain_bloodstone - " this is a FRANCHISE in the strictest sense of the word. No wriggle room"
by openthepodbaydoorshal
Its a good thing that Harry Potter wasn't considered a franchise. Idiot.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:24 p.m. CST
Rian Johnson, Rupert Wyatt, or Jon Favreau. There ya go, Disney.
by johnny h. utah
Matthew Vaughn would be the Richard Marquand choice.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:24 p.m. CST
Rian Johnson, Rupert Wyatt, or Jon Favreau. There ya go, Disney.
by johnny h. utah
Matthew Vaughn would be the Richard Marquand choice.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:24 p.m. CST
Rian Johnson, Rupert Wyatt, or Jon Favreau. There ya go, Disney.
by johnny h. utah
Matthew Vaughn would be the Richard Marquand choice.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:24 p.m. CST
livegrenade, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, KEEP DAVID YATES THE FUCK AWAY FROM STAR WARS!!!FACT!!! HE FUCKED HIS HARRY POTTER MOVIE BECAUSE HE COULDN'T DELIVER ON THE BIG EMOTIONAL STUFF AND RUSHED EVERTHING ELSE!!! I'D RATHER HAVE MIKE NEWELL (GOBLET) DIRECT!!!FACT!!
by CreepyThinManForever
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Thank God he did Stardust otherwise I'd be terribly disappointed with this rumour.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:26 p.m. CST
Anyone who seriously believes that Aronofsky is a fit for Star Wars needs to look at his résumé.
by Pigdog
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:26 p.m. CST
A young polanski or a self controlled verhoeven would be amazing
by Jose
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:26 p.m. CST
TO PUT A POINT ON IT, HERE'S MY REVIEW OF HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS PART 2 AND WHY YATES NEEDS TO STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM STAR WARS!!!FACT!!!.......
by CreepyThinManForever
THIS MOVIE WAS FUCKING AWFUL, JUST FUCKING TERRIBLE BEYOND WORDS!!! I’ve been a defender of David Yates since Order of the Phoenix and for a Director with only a bunch of television credits; I thought he did a great job with Order despite my personal belief that the book had problems. My one complaint was that the movie felt way too clipped and could have used a bit more breathing space. I also believe that he’s incapable of properly delivering those big emotional moments with satisfying punch. He also had a tendency to underplay things a bit too much. He’s a good shooter but doesn’t have control over the flow of his films. Deathly Hallows Part 2 has all of these problems to the fucking max and then some. I can’t begin to tell you how fucking disappointed I am with this fucking movie. I was all set to buy the entire series on Blur-Ray at the end of the year but now, fuck that. This is Spider-man 3 levels of disappointment. Firstly, this movie is horribly edited. It’s soo choppy and cut soo tight that it rushes through anything that’s important while on the other end of the scale he lets other scene’s drag on and fucking on. Example, Snape’s back story was something that should have been taken slow. Instead it’s done at a lightening pace and we never get a fucking sense that Snape loved Lily. This is a perfect example of how Yates both cuts too quick and also cuts short any sort of big emotional payoff. The Yates decides to drag out that fucking King’s Cross section with Harry and Dumbledore in the afterlife. Also, the battle scene’s are too fucking short and we get no sense of time passage. While Harry and Co. are fucking about, are we to assume that people are throwing spells at each other in the courtyard for however long it takes them to search for the Horcrux’s? Now, I’ve read a lot of complaints about how the deaths of certain characters were handled, that they rushed through them and didn’t properly give any of the characters their due. I suspected that people were being stupid and just wanted every death to be dragged out for five minutes. But they were right. We see characters for maybe ten seconds before they get offed and I felt nothing for their deaths. I don’t care if we’ve seen these people in the others movies for however long, I needed to see them in action in THIS MOVIE so that their deaths would hurt. Ten seconds with Fred and George and then we see Fred lying on the ground. Five seconds of Lupin and Tonks and then their bodies are put on display. Lavender is killed and we only know of this because they show her body for one second and where was Shefali Chowdhury who played one of the Patil girls? Am I to assume her characters was killed because we saw the other Patil girl was using a blanket to cover a body that we never see? I know I’ll sound like a HUGE fucking geek but Transformers The Movie showed how you kill off secondary characters. At the beginning of the movie, Autobot’s are getting wasted left and right and you feels those deaths because you know the characters, you recognize them and although most of them didn’t get a word in, you still felt for their deaths because that movie took the, however little, time needed for you to know who those characters were. But we don’t get that sort of emotional payoff in Deathly Hallows because Yates cuts everything too fucking short. You know, when you split a movie in two, why not let the thing FUCKING BREATH since people are more then willing to sit if the story is good enough?!? I mean, the guy let Deathly Hallows Part 1 fucking drag on and on. It also doesn’t help that the staging and blocking of most of the scenes is fucking horrendous and soo awkwardly cut that I sat there with my jaw open at how fucking inept this movie was. The score did the movie no favors at it was entirely forgettable and I can’t tell you how fucking annoying it was every time the sound and music dropped out. Long scene’s and moments of nothing but awkward silence does NOT make for compelling drama. The worst part of the entire thing was the final battle between Harry and Voldemort. It has the distinction of being dragged out for far too long and at the same time also throwing away Voldemorts death by underplaying it to such a fucking extent that I could not fucking care less. And what the FUCK were they thinking with that goddamn particle effect that they used for not only his death but also Bellatrix’s as well as Nagini’s. Another thing, apart from the bridge, everything that Neville Longbottom did should have been given to Ron Weasly as it would have given him something to do other than stand around and look like a fucking twat. Everything should have came to a crescendo in the courtyard and HOLY FUCKING SHIT did Voldemort come off like fucking Dr. Evil in those last scene’s proving the idiom that a villain should keep his fucking mouth shut. He didn’t come off half as threatening as he did in any of the previous movies. Like Freddy Kruger, the more he opened his fucking trap, the less effective he was and it didn’t help that Ralph Fiennes played it almost for camp when he should have came off as intense and menacing. That’s all I’ve got for now. I’m soo mentally exauhsted over how much build up there was for this movie, only to get the spiky dildo up the ass at the end. A fucking wretched ending to what could have been an iconic achievement. This is the reason why Yates needs to be kept as far from Star Wars as possible!!!FACT!!!
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:28 p.m. CST
The They Live BluRay has a new Carpenter interview, I believe??
by openthepodbaydoorshal
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Sure. Why not.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:30 p.m. CST
Tommy Wiseau as director for a truly original vision
by Clarence_Boddickers_Optometrist
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The next film needs a strong actor's director. That's the main reason that Empire, the best SW film, turned out so good, and it's exactly what they need to focus on. I think that if Anderson became a genre director he could easily become the next Kubrick, and what better film for him to start on than the next Star Wars?
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:32 p.m. CST
Aronofsky was attached and developed Batman Begins and Wolverine
by hollywoodsummers
An insider source said he was a popular choice for VII at Lucasfilm & Disney
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...well, conspicuous!
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:35 p.m. CST
The non-fanboyish, actual realistic answer, is likely Dave Filoni
by glenn_the_frog
You know, the guy that's been in charge of Clone Wars the last several years. He's shown a command of the material and setting, the characters, the history, what the fans want, the specific balance of action and comedy the franchise calls for, and has produced more hours and has more practical experience in directing Star Wars than... anyone. Including Lucas. He's got a good knowledge of everyone at Lucasfilm and the studios already... And he's done it for years, all on a relatively low TV level budget. (Clone Wars actually has a high budget for tv standards, but incredibly low compared to a feature.) He's even managed to make Jar Jar centric episodes... tolerable. Plus he's a huge fan. He makes a lot of sense. More than any random big name director that's done project X who would only be on for one movie. And even live action star wars is 90% cgi anyway, so its not too huge a jump. Not the big fancy fanboyish choice, but probably the best one. We'll probably have an actual announcement sooner rather than later.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:36 p.m. CST
This movie will be o controlled even a monkey could direct it. That's why you will not see a creative director.
by Pigdog
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:36 p.m. CST
Lucas chose kershner and marquand,both classic style storytellers
by Jose
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Huh?
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:39 p.m. CST
It`s actually Neil Blomkamp(f)? Anyway It`s why halo was put on hold.
by higgledyhiggles
The Dream babies told me so it must be true.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:40 p.m. CST
Filoni is the most sensible suggestion so far, thank you for realistic expectations.
by Pigdog
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He's getting back into live-action now. He's certainly got the craft and he's a USC alum. Good with melding action, comedy, melodrama and special effects. I think he'd be a good choice.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:42 p.m. CST
Anybody who writes the word "fact" after every single line they type should be fucking disemboweled.
by Briestro
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As long as we're just naming directors we like.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:43 p.m. CST
Forget about shaky handheld cameras,forget about video clip style,look for a modern howard hawks
by Jose
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These movies will be little more then merchandising tools (because there's no way they plan to make 4 billion dollars back on the movies), no director worth a damn will be bothered to tie themselves to this corporate product.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:46 p.m. CST
Are we just naming good directors now? Its no more ridiculous than buying a Ferrari to do the school run.
by Pigdog
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And that makes me sad. Growing up I had such an adoration for the OT and my anticipation of the PT was HUGE in my early twenties... then it all went to shit the moment Anakin flew a fighter ship wearing his shitty diaper and saved the day and yelled yippee! The bung-hole of my childhood had been stretched too far.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:47 p.m. CST
I got it...Ben Affleck. He's the new hotshot nowadays.
by openthepodbaydoorshal
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:50 p.m. CST
Oh Jesus I can't wait till casting rumours start. Daniel Day Lewis for a Jedi knight role.
by Pigdog
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:51 p.m. CST
as long as it's a director who doesnt have a disdain for actors like lucas does
by 77AD
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Master and Commander is coincidentally playing here tonight, on the medium screen.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 4:53 p.m. CST
Oh by the way,I don't wanna see fucking lens flares every 5 seconds,you hear that JJ?
by Jose
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of the Star Wars franchise if he's not careful. The last thing I want is the movie be nothing but a laundry list addressing fan complaints about the last movies.
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They could finally use that title.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 5:07 p.m. CST
And just about every post above this one proves this won't work
by tangcameo
Everyone has a different favourite director for this and you can only pick one so a lot of these people above will be disappointed, or just plained pissed about their director not being chosen for it. Star Wars movies have reached that religion-like point where the fanbase has fractured into sects.
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He definitely can do fun fantasy adventure, which is exactly what Star Wars is. He definitely has eyes for grand spectacle, the end of The World's End is impressive choreography as far as action goes.
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Haven't seen one movie by this hack that I liked. So much for new life in a by-now rancid franchise.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 5:09 p.m. CST
Read This Link People. http://marketsaw.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/exclusive-more-secret-details-revealed.html I Think This is the Real Deal....
by IDIOTMAGNET
Now it is being confirmed elsewhere. Matthew Vaughn was on that list Marketsaw posted. If even half of what is being said there is true this is HUGE news.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 5:09 p.m. CST
But if someone were to improve the writing and DUMP a lot of the CGI...
by tangcameo
...and flesh out shots so they aren't ADHD jumpcuts, then my money would be on THAT director, whoever they may be.
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That's not Star Wars. And young directors lately confuses fantasy/sci-fi with serious adult drama, they don't know how to have fun like directors of the 80's. Matthew Vaughn is those kind of director, same with Nolan, etc. Deep down I want Steven Spielberg, if he could be who he was in the 80's.
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You know, he'd make a pretty good Luke Skywalker. And he has more acting chops than he gets to display on Supernatural.
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He almost did JEDI. And even though is output is spotty at best these days, he's still a master with the right script.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 5:14 p.m. CST
Matthew Vaughn's movies lack soul and characters that are believable.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Both Kick Ass and XMen were movies that felt hollow and manipulative to me. Avengers 2 as well. A terribly hyped up, loud movie with a lot of cute/ and not a lot of depth. Brian Singer's X2 remains a watermark, an "Empire Strikes Back" of comic films, in terms of tone, gravity and dead-on style that felt true. People seem to forget that if Lucas's neighbors hadn't been such whiny bitches he might have gone the other way, and we might have seen an independent studio out there on Lucas Valley Road. Say what you want about the prequels, the man stayed independent, and made his movies in his house, HIS way. He always hated the studio systems and the corporate mindset. So for this man to sell out to a corporate monstrosity, that has gone so far from the wonderment and ingenuity they pursued under Walt's auspices... that should be a cause, fucking SADNESS for independence, and the little guy, and cinema in general. a fuckin Ray Harryhausen couldnt even get a JOB in 2012. Chuck Jones either. STOP SUCKING THESE PEOPLE'S COCKS BECAUSE MOVIES USED TO BE A LOT BETTER.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 5:17 p.m. CST
Come on, it's too late for Spielberg - did no one watch Indy 4? He managed a decent first hour or so, then it turned into a proper turdfest.
by Mark Jones
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Nov. 5, 2012, 5:17 p.m. CST
It doesn't matter who directs. Most of you will still whine in the end...
by Jay
It's never going to capture the originals "style". It's never going to bring back that warm feeling of nostalgia you all clamor for. At most it will capture the Saturday matinee serial tone. Which to be honest, Ep 3 and the Clone Wars cartoon already have. So did movies like John Carter. But that clearly hasn't stopped anybody from being a baby about the situation. Models will not be used over CG. Puppets will not be used over CG. It will be shot digital. There will be no spike in grain during an effects shot. You will not know all the dialogue beforehand, therefor it won't be "memorable" in your eyes. Etc. Until you realize that the movie you want will never ever exist, the easy it is to see everything post-originals with an open mind. I've been watching through the Clone Wars series on Blu-ray with my 4 year old niece. And the fact is, once the show starts it's multi-episode story arcs, it's about as close to the original Star Wars as you can get. Whatever. Bring on the new films. There will always be people complaining.
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Yoda would totally make a great SW director.
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Two different sites posted the same rumor, it MUST be true?!?
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Nov. 5, 2012, 5:24 p.m. CST
Second Aronofsky or Cuaron. That said, I would love to see a Terrence Malick Star Wars film lol.
by RedJester
You think I'm joking with that one lol. I'm not. Can you imagine how much more abstract and epic a Terrence Malick Star Wars film would be than any other science fiction adventure/action film that's come before it? Malick's already proven he can do action sequences (Thin Red Line) and all things the universe (Tree of Life). I guess what I'm saying is that if I was a multi-billionaire, I would finance this product even if I was the only one interested in seeing it lol...
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I don't even like Star Wars all that much. I'm just glad that our grandchildren won't be subject to any further abuse by an autistic man-child who hates directing actors and can't write dialog to save his life.
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but I want Hamill in this in a more than token 10min obligatory cameo. A full Epidsode 7 movie revolving around an all powerful mature old Jedi Skywalker then pass/piss away the reins at the end to whatever token fresh faced newbie they want to as the enivitably will. <p> Embrace the fanbase Disney. Throw in geekdom refrences to Thrawn et al and, like the rabid Marvel fanbase, they will reap you divends in a way the exiting cynical fanboy trolling Lucas never could.
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... but I read Kenneth Branagh being named somewhere in this TB, and DAMN... that's not a bad idea at all... Could work...
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“It was originally a 12-part saga,” says Pollock. “The three most exciting stories were 7, 8 and 9. They had propulsive action, really interesting new worlds, new characters. I remember thinking, ‘I want to see these three movies.’" http://www.totalfilm.com/news/new-star-wars-trilogy-could-pick-up-with-luke-in-middle-age
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Nov. 5, 2012, 5:29 p.m. CST
For the sake of controversy... I didn't have a problem with Lucas' directing skills before, to be honest - it was just his bloody woeful scripts.
by Mark Jones
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Ya know because he's a worthless cocksucker and all.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 5:35 p.m. CST
As said many times, it's all about the writer...
by Melanie Griffiths Sour Patch
Lindelof, Orci, Kurtzman and the usual suspects are the wrong way to go. Get Lawrence Kasdan. He understands how to make these movies be about more than eye candy and surround sound. Lindelof would be horrible & Orci/Kurtzman play things very safe and are really C+/B- writers who don't elevate material. They're mechanics. Get someone with a voice, a sense of humor, a sense of spectacle, etc. Go old school. As for Vaughn as director, I enjoyed Stardust, but that never for a moment felt like he should direct a Star Wars movie. My short list would be Spielberg, Fincher, JJ Abrams, Joss Whedon & Cuaron.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 5:37 p.m. CST
David Yates is not such a poor choice. Order of Phoenix was bad, but he improved greatly with HP6 and HP7.
by Ali Kerim Bey
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Nov. 5, 2012, 5:38 p.m. CST
Morons. You're all morons! For SOME kind of movies "Its all about the writer"; NOT for a fantasy spectacle - in which case, its all about the style and filmmaking. Tarantino has ruined your minds.
by Krinkle
I'm trying hard to be optimistic, but without Lucas, these might suck.
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You're little fascist group-thinkers. Not only do you not think for yourself, you are COMFORTED by having a large group of people agreeing with you to not think for yourself. There is no more glaring group of morons, half-wits, and knuckleheads than the shitheads who populate this board (except me, of course) The prequels are, at worst, flawed and a little stiff. They still contain multitudes of wonder, great action, and truly awe-inspiring visual storytelling. But all you unloved nerds know is hyperbole.
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The movies can't when because every mouth-breather keeps mentioning how their black hearts were sunk with Ep 1-3. They can't win because the ghost of Lucas is still a bad thing to some and the ownership by Disney is another.. They can't win because the insanely stupid and inaccurate "Fan" casting of actors and Directors begins.... none will be happy and in 2015, Disney will be the new hate symbol... Give Star War a pass, nerds. you are incapable of enjoying anything at this point...
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I will keep beating the drum for Joe Johnston. He's the man to direct the next movie. Concept artist on IV, V, and VI, director of Captain America... he could hit exactly the right look and tone for Episode VII.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 5:42 p.m. CST
agreed, Alfonso Cuaron has a "faux" dark style. Azkaban was perhaps the best HP book, and the film to me seemed very weak, lacking any real tension or emotion when the book had lots of it.
by Ali Kerim Bey
Again...don't get the love for him.
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Jane Goldman ... in the Leia Slave Bikini Outfit = Breaks the Avatar Box Office Record in 10 days!! Boom! (Oh .. and her script would be great too).
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Cuaron is equivalent to a master painter. In very important ways he's the opposite to hip modern directors like Vaughan. he's old school and understands light/shadows and fairy tales.
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How do you know this about the original trilogy remastered? Believe me, I want it, but the Disney takeover doesn't mean it's coming out tomorrow.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 5:47 p.m. CST
A quality director & actor make mediocre writing better. Just look at anything Star Trek...
by Jay
Don't get me wrong, I want a good writer behind this. But I would prefer a better director because he will be steering the ship. As I pointed out. Watch any episode of Star Trek, OS or TNG. The dialogue and story is not always great. But the direction (and art/set direction) were solid and on point. And everyone treated the subject seriously. And It was the same with the original Star Wars trilogy. To paraphrase what Ford said about Lucas' writing during A New Hope. "You can type this shit but you can't say it." Good actors and a good director can make anything believable.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 5:50 p.m. CST
d.vader. Francis Lawrence (I mean you)will be tied up with the next three Hunger Games. Not a terrible choice though (cgi vamps notwithstanding)
by adeceasedfan
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Mis-marketed is all....great fun.
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.. a little stiff.. like a palmaranian purebred at a poodle convention..
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Nov. 5, 2012, 5:53 p.m. CST
=The prequels are, at worst, flawed and a little stiff. They still contain multitudes of wonder, great action, and truly awe-inspiring visual storytelling=
by evergreen
1/10
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Ass Ka-Blam was easily the worst Potter film. IMO.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 5:54 p.m. CST
As long as the director says *Fuck you this will NOT be an all-green-screen production! We are going on location!* I don't care who it is
by FluffyUnbound
Seriously. You could build a director from the stolen DNA of Lean and Kubrick and Spielberg and the film will look like my ass if it's a total green screen environment. Cameron is the only one to have succeeded to date with total digitization. You need a director who knows how to mix green screen and locations. So Blomkamp and PJ naturally come to mind.
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and he saved the X-Men franchise....looks like a keeper to me.
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Whedon...I wish.
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Not SW. Master and Commander is the greatest Trek film ever made.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 5:58 p.m. CST
I hate the jokes people post about things not actually being news but...
by Prooth
Matthew Vaughn pulls out of projects so often I feel like we should have a running joke about how he is MAYBE directing something until two days into the shoot. Also, I agree with the need for a good script, but I think some feedback mechanism on set (aka Harrison Ford shooting down shitty dialogue) is also necessary.
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Fanboys will never forgive him for The Watchmen but it was an impossible task. I think he did as well or better than any other possible choice. Or Terrence Malick. It would give him something new to do in movies -- instead of having actors mope around, looking like they're lost in a bus station for over 2 hours (which admittedly, might have worked in the prequels). As for this: "Steven Weintraub of Collider is good people," jeez can't we just dump the junk jive? Steven Weintraub of Collider is a good person. See, that wasn't so hard?
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KICK-ASS did indeed. First Class was a vast improvement, but had some character issues. IDK maybe?
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But there is no way Disney would consent to it.
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No Koepps or Orcis or Goldsmans or Lindleofs... ... Just someone who has written some solid scripts under the radar. That's what I want.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 6:03 p.m. CST
zodlovesmaude - nah, I'm gonna dig my chin into your God...
by evergreen
...until you lose it.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 6:04 p.m. CST
Good actors and a good director can make anything believable.
by James_Camera_On
And good writing can make it great. Spock's Brain versus City on the Edge of Forever. The Empire Strike Back versus The Return of the Jedi.
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Lupin telling Harry about his parents... Sirius comforting Harry... No emotion? You believe that, you're being willfuly ignorant to what's there onscreen.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 6:09 p.m. CST
Only two guys can recapture the spirit of the prequels: Friedberg and Seltzer! Now, if you want auteurs, what about the Wayans brothers?
by hank henshaw
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....it's Uwe Boll...or M Night Shamylan....
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Nov. 5, 2012, 6:14 p.m. CST
Vaughn doing Kick Ass from its original comic book source was like Oliver Stone directing from a script by Quentin Tarantino
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
...like watching a guy who doesn't have the slightest ideal about what cool is... trying to fit in a cool guys clothes Kick Ass the movie was neutured, fanboy shit. Avengers lacked any balls or stylistic heft by the same token. These are WWF movies. X2... Blade 2? Comic book movies, layered and moody and uncompromising. And there's a big difference. X Men The New Class was made by a guy who doesn't understand the nuances of either teenage drama or comic book storytelling. Emo like a bad CW pilot.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 6:15 p.m. CST
Agreed. CUARON or KASDAN, but no Vaughn please
by The_Ghost_of_Marcus_Brody
kthnx
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I did not love Thor at first, but it is very rewatchable. It may be my favorite Marvel film (after Avengers of course). Guy knows howmto mix the fantastic with the mundane - something SW really needs.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 6:17 p.m. CST
The fact that the only names people can think of are Joss Whedon or Chris Nolan.... shows what a lack of imagination, and rampant bandwagon jumping, exists in fandom right now
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
People saying Irwin Kerschner are right on. Get a guy in there who is old school and can tell stories, not some hip dickweed who is good at pitch meetings
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Nov. 5, 2012, 6:23 p.m. CST
Watchmen and 300 are proper COMICS films
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
oooh prestige
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please fix the quotes problem
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Umm...no. It was the director realizing the source was shit and making a statement with it. I'm glad you were offended.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 6:26 p.m. CST
vaughn has more potential than talent. I loved First Class but that doesn't mean he's qualified for Star Wars. And Kick Ass is just...odd. I just can't get excited about him.
by Sean
No one has mentioned Ridley Scott yet? He's a possibility. He goes work for hire. Studios trust him. As Eysium has been delayed release till 2014 I think Blomkamp might be busy. I still think it is probably going to be Kosinski (although he's prepping Black Hole?) or Bird. I admit I was so excited for Mission Impossible 4 and walked away thinking "eh...quite good" but I was expecting to get blown away. However, the Incredibles was excellent and The Iron Giant is a masterpiece that makes me bawl like a little girl EVERYTIME. If he can tap in to that for SW, he's the man for the job. I do see the point made about Disney avoiding the famous visionaries for someone controllable but let's us assume the suits know their shit. In all likliness...that will mean bland, vanilla, uninspiring, excitement free blahness. You can be on a franchise and put your stamp on. They would be crazy not to allow for it. I shudder at the thought of the Polanski nomination before. I know it wasn't serious but...no ewok would be safe. Let's hear more non serious director lists to pass the time...it would be almost as productive as the genuine lists. Woody Allen's Star Wars. The Coens. Sophia Copolla. Neveldine/Taylor. Von Trier. OK...enough, I must take a shower now.
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The prequels were shot on location much more than any sci-fi/fantasy movies of late. And there are a lot of practical effects in them than you know, models, etc. Go read the making of books.
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Kathryn Bigelow. Why not?
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The action of First Class mixed with the comedy and fun of Kick-Ass could seriously make for an awesome Star Wars sequel. And seriously, Disney knows what they're up against. This isn't John Carter or Prince of Persia. Yeah, fans were anticipating those movies, but this is fucking Star Wars. They know what they're dealing with, and they'll definitely do their best to make is amazing.
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Lotta chatter about Vaughn and Star Wars. Wonder if he was anywhere near that Dagobah set when he was eight? Hmm...
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Nov. 5, 2012, 6:31 p.m. CST
EP7 to be directed by Mike Rotch and written by Tess Tickles.
by AzulTool
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Nov. 5, 2012, 6:35 p.m. CST
people like Mark Millar and Garth Ennis are ripe for some -good- screen adaptation
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
when I read Kick Ass I laughed out loud from the gleeful violence of it. I thought to myself -This could be amazing with a director like Tarantino behind the camera- that didn't happen. Vaughn's movies have NO BALLS. There is a big difference between something like FAN FILM -Punisher Dirty Laundry- and the choices made by yr average executive to cater to their dream Marvel emo kid/ pro wrestling fan demographic. there are a lot of dudes with Tap Out tee shirts out there, and a lot of girls with caked on emo makeup, and the bad news is these are the people who paid to see The Avengers EIGHT TIMES
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Nov. 5, 2012, 6:36 p.m. CST
The only reason Millar is "dropping hints" about Vaughn is bc he wants it to happen
by D.Vader
Millar likes Vaughn and wants it to happen. That does NOT MEAN Millar knows what's happening at LucasFilm and Disney.
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Instead of picking someone with a style we are already familiar with or someone that is already rich and famous from previous engagements, pick someone that never directed a huge blockbuster before? They just might bring a new innovative freshness to the franchise. Something were all wishing would happen. Perhaps pick a director that has only done short films or a small independent foreign film? That way well all be surprised when we see the movie rather then nitpick every scene that comes up and compare it to the previous work the director has done. Sure it's a gamble, but Lucas wasn't that experienced when he did the original movie and see how that turned out. Of course I hear it really was the editing that made the movie what it was and not really George's direction, but regardless. I'm just suggesting.
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now THAT is a choice with some fucking imagination. she certainly films dirt and grease and bombs and action well. a fine director. not that upper-class Vaughan shit. his movies dont have that V8 heartbeat!!! get someone in there who know how to film some damn messy beautiful CHOAS for christ's sakes
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Nov. 5, 2012, 6:43 p.m. CST
Lucas brought an innocence to "Star Wars"...No big name director is going to bring anyting close to that..
by seansarto
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Talk about making the mysognistic SW fanbois go apeshit. And i think she'd own.
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Matthew Yawn.
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I would drop out of anything he's doing now if I get a call from Kathleen Kennedy.
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S-H-I-T His last 2 flicks are 2 of the most unfairly praised, overrated films of the past decade. Kickass was hilariously retarded, featuring a script that you would've expected Paul W.S. Anderson, or the likes, to have written. Cage was the only thing halfway decent in that steaming pile... it was so phony, so contrived. Terrible attempt at "dark humor". Absolutely nothing of substance, nor was it at least visually appealing or stylistically entertaining. COMPLETE FUCKING FAIL. Oh and Hitgirl was shit. The actress stinks, and the character, conceptually, is fucking retarded. And don't get me wrong, i was in no way "offended" by anything in that flick. That would be giving the film too much credit. I am IMPERVIOUS to being offended. I love irreverence as much as the next cynical asshole, but the film's failing were FILM related... shit script, shit cast, terrible execution. As for X-Men: First ClASS. Possibly even worse than Kickass, if only for the fact that i had higher expectations for it (as well as being a huge fan of the X-Men). Same problems in this one, as with his previous effort. Terrible script (featuring juvenile, self aware, awkward dialogue). TV standard special effects, makeup, costumes, sets, ets... a decent cast but because of the shitty script there was no place for genuine character development. They all came off as rather wooden/uninterested (It actually managed to make Rose Byrne and Jennifer Lawrence seem like lazy actors...) Also, the score was almost completely nonexistent featuring the same tired, 3 note fucking progression that was used OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and All in all, it was nearly as poor as Last Stand but got a baffling positive reaction from many critics and........ IMDB USERS (the fucking idiots...) Stardust was a weak effort as well. But because it hasn't received "Crash"-like unjust praise like his latter 2 films, i don't relish in the opportunity to talk shit about it. Layer Cake is the one exception. That was a fantastic debut effort but everything since has been profoundly lacking in quality. Ergo... FUCK MATTHEW VAUGHN, and his VAPID, DERIVATIVE, AMATEUR FILM-MAKING. Oh and he seems like A TOTAL DICK on top of all that. Piss poor attitude, flakey, entitled, etc. Biggest douche this side of Brett fucking Ratner. Fuck him.
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I'm here, hello!
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Nov. 5, 2012, 6:51 p.m. CST
@ '' They just might bring a new innovative freshness to the franchise. Something were all wishing would happen. ''
by Jay
From reading fanboys whine online over the years, "new" is not what they want. At all. Unfortunately. They want the sequels exactly like the old ones, but made to feel new again. How many times have we read "Lucas forgot what made Star Wars great!" or "that's not the Star Wars I grew up with." It's really simple. Nobody knows what the fuck they want until they see it. They simply know what they like, and they want more of it. Just earlier this year, I read nothing but relentless bashing of every new tidbit that came out involving the new Dredd movie. You don't hear a single peep from any of those shitheads now. Again. Nobody knows what they fuck they want. Just make a good movie, and they can do whatever the hell they want.
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http://tinyurl.com/bg8knn8 Damn. Maybe Peter Weir could make a great Star Wars movie.
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Besides being a great idea - imagine the flame shooting out of the ass of Lucas and Spielberg.
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YOU KNOW BECAUSE HE'S COOL RIGHT NOW AND THE KIDS LOVE HIM
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Heh heh.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 6:55 p.m. CST
Seriously, though. Chalk me up for Tarantino.
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
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Nov. 5, 2012, 6:55 p.m. CST
CUARON 'S AZKABAN IS A GEM BUT NEWELL'S GOBLET OF FIRE IS MY PERSONAL FAVORITE!!!FACT!!! IT WAS AZKABAN THAT GOT ME INTO HARRY POTTER......
by CreepyThinManForever
I avoided seeing Chris Columbus' Potter flicks until they went to video as he's a hack but I have to admit that he did improve somewhat with Chamber and his casting was nearly perfect. But Azkaban was a fucking superb film and the first HP movie that brought the series to the level of LOTR in terms of quality. After seeing that I read all the books, produced at the time, and couldn't wait to see the next one. I was REALLY worried about Mike Newell as he was famous for Four Weddings although he did a good job with Donnie Brasco. But HOLY FUCK did he ROCK MY SHIT with GoF. That was one of the best moviegoing experiences of my life. It delivered everything I wanted and upped the stakes of the series considerably with actual death and the return of Voldemort. The two things I loved most about GoF was the fact that with Newell we got the first BRITISH Director for the flicks and you can tell just because of the way everything feels. The second best thing was the entire scene in the graveyard which was a masterclass of Gothic Horror that dripped with atmosphere. There was soo much build up to Harry and Voldemort finally confronting each other and that scene fucking OWNED! It was THRILLING! But David Yates does NOT know how to give us that sense of fun, adventure, excitement and scares. He's got a good eye but he simply is incapable of giving a scene an emotional payoff. I actually think his best work was on Order where he was no doubt kept on a short leash and made inprovements to the storyline while cutting out the flab from that book even though I think he cut a little too close when scene's needed to breath a bit more. Sirius' death felt hollow and although the Dumbledore/Voldemort fight was very well constructed, it didn't have the punch of the GoF duel between HP and V. There's just something very cold and clinical about Yates style that I don't like which wouldn't suit Star Wars.
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...and two and two..... always makes.... a fiiiiii-iiiiiive
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Nov. 5, 2012, 6:56 p.m. CST
I'd be cool with Kathryn Bigelow as well. SW is probably beneath Cuarón,
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
as was HP. But he'd do a mindblowing job, nonetheless.
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The greatest British composer of all time.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 6:58 p.m. CST
Perhaps Duncan Jones? Though he'd most likely rather do Neuromancer,
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
outside of his creator projects, I imagine.
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Layer Cake was a great film. Everything since has had zero cinematic heft. A sad case of a very wealthy man, and a trendy twittertopic, given some great stories (Kick Ass, XMen) only to spin them into sad, limp product.
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Yes, D.Vader was banned a couple years back. It sent this website SPIRALLING INTO A DARK ABYSS FROM WHENCE IT HAS NEVER RECOVERED...
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:01 p.m. CST
d.vader, HE SAID A DIRECTOR OF SHORT FILMS, NOT SOMEONE WHO TAKES IT IN THE ASS FROM GERMAN SHEPARDS ON A WEBCAM!!! THERE'S A DIFFERENCE!!!FACT!!! :)
by CreepyThinManForever
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What a perfectly concise way of summing up Matthew Vaughn.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:03 p.m. CST
Am I the only one not enamoured with Matthew Vaughan?
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Kick Ass was good for the first third, then pretentious, self-indulgent crap the last two. If his wife isn't involved, he could surprise me, but his films (from Stardust to X-Men) have a smarmy smugness about them that really turns me off.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:03 p.m. CST
good idea#1: Tomas Alfredson (let the right one in)
by lavatory love machine
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:03 p.m. CST
I can't believe someone actually just said "DUNCAN JONES" with a straight face
by Tom Yorke
Goddamn... i just went on a rant about Matthew Vaughn. I don't feel i have the energy to rant against another toolbag posing as a "film-maker". Maybe some other time.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:04 p.m. CST
I can hear it now, Luke Skywalker saying "cunt"
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Probably in a flashback scene involving the Emperor.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:05 p.m. CST
good idea#3: Christopher Gans (brotherood of the wolf)
by lavatory love machine
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:05 p.m. CST
And Duncan better keep his shit-stained fingers away from my beloved Neuromancer
by Tom Yorke
Give that shit to Alfonso Cuaron for fucksake. Oh, Wintermute, how i love thee...
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:06 p.m. CST
Er, apologies. Just read most of the talkback and I'm not alone in my dislike for Vaughan!
by Hardboiled Wonderland
I'm in good company, which is rare for an AICN talkback. :P
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My original username back in '99, when i first discovered this fine website... was in fact, "Wintermute". True story.
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Does this person have more followers than you?
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If Lucas has too much to do with it, it won't matter WHO directs. If the story is good, the dialogue isn't painful to listen to and it restores my faith in the Star Wars franchise, then Bobcat Goldthwait could direct, for all I care.
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I feel so honored to be in his majestic presence!
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:11 p.m. CST
Absolutely agree with @seansarto "Lucas brought an innocence to "Star Wars"..."
by Hardboiled Wonderland
This is why I'd like Star Wars to go to Brad Bird or Andrew Stanton. Yeah, John Carter was a disappointment, but it was the perfect training run for Stanton. And Brad Bird has that Pixar "innocence" in storytelling, that genuine, sincere love of wanting to tell a good story and have fun doing it.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:12 p.m. CST
Joss Whedon, Brad Bird, The Wachowski siblings, The Finch, and Senor Spielbergo
by Tom Yorke
And that IS IT. The list ends there.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:12 p.m. CST
@porkchopxpress, yeah I agree, it depends on the script and if Disney wants rated G. Ewoks and kid actor leads, instead of Empire Strikes Back.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:13 p.m. CST
I would've considered Ridley Scott before i was unfortunate enough to find myself watching Prometheus this summer
by Tom Yorke
And basically everything he's made since Gladiator has been shit. Although, Matchstick Men was pretty pimp.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:13 p.m. CST
Hell yeah, hail_to_the_thief. I really hope the Wachowskis get a crack at a more mature standalone Star Wars movie.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:18 p.m. CST
hardboiled wonderland - what are some of your favorvite movies?
by evergreen
I'm trying to get a handle on where the "pretentious" threshold begins and ends.
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I caught Bound the other night on the tele... What a cool fucking movie. Highly underrated. And i'll ALWAYS give them the benefit of the doubt because of the original Matrix. And Speed Racer is most definitely one of the most underappreciated films of the decade. Their cinematography is always beautiful, they're innovative, they take risks, they don't pander, etc... their films always have a certain kinetic energy to them that most films these days lack. I'd be all for a Wachowski-led Sequel Trilogy.
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Francis Lawrence does that. You must have us confused. I just feed the German shepherds is all.
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I'm Zombie D.Vader!
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:20 p.m. CST
That being said... i found the Matrix Sequels to be rather sloppy and unfocused.
by Tom Yorke
Very disappointing (with the exception of certain aspects of Reloaded). Had to qualify my previous post with that.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:26 p.m. CST
And on that note... how about, in the unfortunate possibility that John Williams cannot score the new films...
by Tom Yorke
Don Davis? He was amazing with the Matrix Trilogy. Possibly James Horner, James Newton Howard, or Michael Giacchino? Or my favorite choice... the more inspired choice, would be James Peterson. If any of you are film score fans, and you haven't heard this AMAZING FUCKING SCORE for The Red Canvas... go check it out. The suite towards the end of the album (the tracks not on the actual film) are eerily John Williams-esque. Possibly my favorite score of the past decade.
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But I agree with Branagh. He has the knowledge of classic storytelling behind him and proved he can pull off action as well.
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Alien fucking 3. And Final Fantasy was pretty amazing too.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:28 p.m. CST
Don Davis did not do a great job replacing John Williams on JP III
by D.Vader
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:29 p.m. CST
I'll use the word my new gf used the first time she saw my butthole
by David Duchovny
Ewww
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:33 p.m. CST
Oh good christ, D.Vade... did Davis really score the shitfest known as JP III??
by Tom Yorke
*My Bust* as they say.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:33 p.m. CST
I still think his Wachowski-inspired work speaks for itself
by Tom Yorke
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*giggle*
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That's the only way it will get done right.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:40 p.m. CST
I think Davis' work on the Matrix is good ambient sort of stuff
by D.Vader
But not full of the operatic leitmotifs that a Star Wars film demands. We need more than just noise. We need recognizable themes that can grow over the course of the films and weave into the others.
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Or is he one of those annoying quick edit jump cut shaky cam mtv director motherfuckers. I hate these new filmmakers. I saw Kick-ass but don't remember a frame of it--doesn't bode well for this asshole.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:44 p.m. CST
Matthew Vaughn has good judgement...he's trustworthy. Worry about who's writing the damn thing.
by cgih8r
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Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Close Encounters, Labyrinth, The Dark Crystal... you get the drift. ;) It's just my personal opinion dude, you can like Vaughan if you want. I just can't stand the smug "fuck we're cool" of Kick Ass and Stardust. I'm not a fan of most of Neil Gaiman's stuff either (love The Sandman, think his novels are overrated average and most of his short stories absolutely amateur), so that should give you an idea of where I stand. Like I said, the first third of Kick Ass I really enjoyed, but the rest was just "look at us look at us aren't we soooo fucking cool!!!"
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:49 p.m. CST
pretentious-rr-douchebag - what were your favorite movies last year?
by evergreen
Hopefully none were by new filmmakers.
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and a documentary you haven't heard of. That was about it.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:52 p.m. CST
Oh, and I liked X-Men First Class. A lot. I just don't think Vaughan is Star Wars material.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:52 p.m. CST
It doesn't matter a damn thing what we talkbackers want or like, the choice of director and writer/s is completely out of our hands
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Disney will do what Disney will do. I'm 80% sure the Bird/Lindelof/1952 theory will pan out, to be honest.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:54 p.m. CST
BREAKING NEWS: Jake Lloyd is directing SW VII!!!!
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Jett Lucas writing.
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You're dead center in Damon Lindelof's marketing target. Good for you.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 7:58 p.m. CST
lol I can't stand Lindelof, so that makes perfect sense.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Tell us a little about yourself, overrated, your likes and dislikes in the movie world.
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I never want to see those words in the same sentence ever again. I think the last thing anyone thinks when watching Star Wars is "gritty". Personally, much as I like Vaughn, I think he'd be a terrible choice. He's good at doing stories with much smaller scale, but Star Wars needs someone who can do big sprawling adventures. I don't associate Vaughn with that at all. The man might be popular right now, and he certainly performed a miracle with First Class, but he's not the appropriate choice for a Star Wars film. And since this "rumor" is only out there to test the fan reaction, I'm just gonna spell it out for you folks at Disney. This fan says no to Vaughn.
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But mostly teal.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8 p.m. CST
As long as it's not Vince Vaughn, I'm cool with it.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:01 p.m. CST
Matthew, has anyone told you if you shave your head you're a dead ringer for Lindelof?
by Hardboiled Wonderland
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/Matthew_Vaughn.JPG/220px-Matthew_Vaughn.JPG
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:02 p.m. CST
Actually, Vader, if you really listen to Davis' work (especially on Reloaded) there ARE recognizable themes
by Tom Yorke
There is some nice melody work, it's just a bit more subtle. But that's why i mentioned Horner, Newton-Howard, Giacchino, Goldenthal, and Peterson. A little more melody with those guys... some nice strings and some good brass (especially with Goldenthal). Gotta have some BRASS when speaking of Star Wars!
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:02 p.m. CST
'Star Wars' sequel: Harrison Ford open to idea of Han Solo role -- EXCLUSIVE
by Paul
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/06/would-harrison-ford-return-for-star-wars-episode-vii
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:03 p.m. CST
Far from worthy of bringing Star Wars films back to life
by FrodoFraggins
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:03 p.m. CST
Guillermo Del Toro is my personal favorite of the names listed here...
by SlickyVonBoner
Pan's Labrynth is one of my favorite movies of all time.. it's beautiful, touching and brutal at the same time. He would be perfect for a grown-up take on Star Wars.. Hell Boy I and II had great characters and incredible special effects. I was actually really bummed when he dropped out of the Hobbit. Though I like Jackson, I would like to have seen his version of a Middle Earth tale.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:04 p.m. CST
Ford won’t go to the next level of contract talks until there’s a script and director in place.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
That puts a dampener on the 1952 theory. Which is probably a good thing.
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Best film of the year. Hell, give it to Rian Johnson.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:05 p.m. CST
Sorry, quote from the article paburrows_rises just posted above.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
No director, no script... if there was, Ford would know about it.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:06 p.m. CST
What's so great about Peter Jackson? someone explain to me please
by cgih8r
You gotta respect his ability to tackle a large project and deliver it but I got nothing out of his LOTR trilogy. NOTHING! and King Kong? forget about it. He's one of the biggest CGI abusers out there and he thinks that he can pretend to have a deep emotional moments by putting everything into slow motion with sad looks on everyone's face. That's as shallow as it gets. He is VERY overrated.
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... So there'll be continuity with Indy losing an eye in Indy V.
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How about Sam Mendes? I love his work from American Beauty to Road to Perdition. And even Jarhead was pretty fucking good. Can't wait for Skyfall. That's his first "Big" movie. Sounds like he knocked it out of the park...
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Don't care which one.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:09 p.m. CST
'Star Wars' sequel: Harrison Ford open to idea of Han Solo role -- EXCLUSIVE
by Paul
201208:21 PM ET http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/11/05/star-wars-sequel-harrison-ford-han-solo-exclusive/ by Geoff Boucher Harrison Ford is open to the idea of bringing Han Solo back to life on the silver screen in 2015, according to sources close to the just-announced Star Wars sequel, but don’t be surprised if his contract includes a mandatory death scene for the sly old space smuggler. “Harrison is open to the idea of doing the movie and he’s upbeat about it, all three of them are,” said one highly placed source, referring to Ford, Mark Hamill, and Carrie Fisher, the trio that made a hyper-speed jump to global fame on May 25, 1977, the opening night for George Lucas’s original Star Wars film. The Hollywood trajectories of Hamill and Fisher led to reinvention — he’s now an in-demand voice actor; she used a gift for acerbic memoir to deliver Postcards from the Edge and Wishful Drinking. But Ford, who reached his 35th birthday in the summer of 1977, launched himself on a truly historic career run that synced up with the blockbuster bonanza of the 1980s. Ford’s star rose with The Fugitive, Air Force One, Clear and Present Danger, Presumed Innocent, Blade Runner, and of course, the four fedora films as a certain archaeologist named Henry “Indiana” Jones. The actor, now 70, is plenty proud of Indy, Jack Ryan, John Book, and Dr. Richard Kimble but in the past he didn’t disguise his disdain for Solo. “As a character he was not so interesting to me,” the frosty Ford explained in an ABC interview in 2010. The slippery Corellian pilot’s great talent is keeping himself alive, a skill that apparently extended beyond the screen. Solo’s death scene in early outlines for Episode VI: Return of the Jedi was scrapped, according to Ford and others, because the character was a top seller as an action figure. EW Daily Poll: Who makes the best 'SNL' host? As Ford told ABC in the same interview: “I thought he should have died in the last one to give it some bottom…George didn’t think there was any future in dead Han toys.” Disney, which acquired Lucasfilm in a $4.05 billion deal, sees plenty of retail future with Star Wars sitting on the same corporate toy shelf as Marvel and Pixar, and they’ll certainly be offering a stellar payday to coax Ford to bring his star power back to role that started it all. More than money, Ford might be drawn back by the upside of changes at Lucasfilm where the respected Kathleen Kennedy is taking over as company president, and with the Jedi franchise as a whole now that Kennedy is in as executive producer and Lucas will take on a consultant role, leaving the director’s chair for someone else. Indeed, Ford won’t go to the next level of contract talks until there’s a script and director in place. Either could be a deal breaker. Still, at any stage, an “upbeat” signal from Ford on any Solo matter is enough to shock and excite fans who view Star Wars as something close to religion. Solo, Luke Skywalker (Hamill), and Princess Leia (Fisher) appeared in two more films and when last we left them (in 1983’s Episode VI: Return of the Jedi) they were on the forest moon of Endor reflecting on the downfall (literally) of the Emperor and Darth Vader’s final act of redemption. Now a new-look Lucasfilm — with Lucas moving into retirement and the Walt Disney Company taking over — plans to circle back with a new trilogy that picks up the story decades later and presumably uses the original trio to hand off the franchise to a new generation. (It’s a familiar approach; 2009’s Star Trek beamed Leonard Nimoy back aboard or 2010’s Tron: Legacy turned to Jeff Bridges to initiate the next cycle.) Hamill told EW that he and Fisher heard about the idea when Lucas summoned them for a lunch in August, not long after both were onstage return guest at Star Wars Celebration VI, an official Lucasfilm event that drew tens of thousands of fans to Orlando. Many of those true believers are delirious about the new hope of a third trilogy but Hamill, 61, knows that some outsiders will roll their eyes. “I can see both sides of it,” Hamill said. “Because in a way, there was a beginning, a middle, and an end and we all lived happily ever after and that’s the way it should be — and it’s great that people have fond memories, if they do have fond memories. But on the other hand, there’s this ravenous desire on the part of the true believers to have more and more and more material.” In the 29 years since the red carpet premiere of Return of the Jedi, Ford has declined hundreds – if not thousands — of offers to appear at Star Wars events and cast reunions even the ones sanctioned and run by Lucasfilm. In fact, in all those years was only one offer he accepted: He attended a 30th anniversary screening of the The Empire Strikes Back in 2010 to benefit St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital. About 400 fans (including Christopher Nolan, Jonathan Nolan, Jon Favreau, and Kevin Feige) paid $100-$175 each to hear Ford reflect on his Millennium Falcon days. I was the moderator for the event and the star arrived in a cheery mood but, after watching the film, he was weary of the crowd’s zeal for something he could never love. “I don’t know that I understood it very well,” Ford said in a flat tone of the franchise’s ascension in popular culture. “I’m not sure I understand it yet…I was very happy to be involved. I was pleased to be a part of an ensemble.” It was a bare-bones answer but still the crowd cheered and no one asked for a refund – everyone was just excited to see Ford back in the same theater as the Star Wars universe. That alone may be the Force that brings Ford and Solo back together for their date with destiny.
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it better begin by him shooting someone in the back. Han shoots first! Makes up for the Episode 4 Greedo business. Your welcome!
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:10 p.m. CST
I believe that Fordsaid the same about Indy 4 that he would do it if he liked the script.
by Paul
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:13 p.m. CST
He did indeed, paburrows. He also did Cowboys & Aliens just to work with Favreau and rescue horses
by Hardboiled Wonderland
So memo to potential directors and writers -- make Ford happy if you want Han Solo back. Buy him a few horses.
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Anything beyond a "hero journey" script you would just find pretentious.
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Someone who has delivered a successful tentpole, on time and on budget. It wasn't going to be anybody huge, Disney bought Star Wars because it's less dependent on a name director and start taking a huge backend. We won't see big name stars on this either. Somebody who has proven he can open a pic, but doesn't command anything huge yet.... like Fassbender, Gosling, McAvoy... or dare we drop a name like Mr. Channing Fucking Tatum!
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:16 p.m. CST
Quote: "Ford won’t go to the next level of contract talks until there’s a script and director in place."
by Hardboiled Wonderland
So that's official, I doubt Ford would be kept in the dark if Disney already had a script and potential director lined up. This would mean everything's starting from scratch though, and Disney wouldn't want to leave the director/script search too long. Films like this take at least two years, especially with the CGI post-production.
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He's the perfect example of sound and fury signifying nothing. He is an absolute bore of a film-maker to me.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:20 p.m. CST
Just for you, overrated, I'm going to rewatch Kick Ass and Stardust this weekend.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
I had a bout of food poisoning when I saw Kick Ass at the cinema, so that may have contributed to my opinion of the film and Vaughn's filmmaking. For the rest of the week, I'll be careful with the food I eat and avoid chicken. I may have been in a foul mood when I first saw Kick Ass, and that tained my opinion -- as did the hype -- so we'll see how it goes several years on. I'll let you know in a random talkback next Sunday.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:21 p.m. CST
we are only 1 time machine away from an Ed Wood Star Wars movie.
by Arcadian
If we ever invent time travel in the future, I insist that someone makes this happen.
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ep 7 you need the holy grail of directors to set this all in motion and make it good. ep8- you go can dark like Empire- Fincher, Aronofsky, Nolan ep9-i don't care who you choose
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The empire is extinct, the galaxy is at peace. We sit there and watch Luke watch his cock get smaller?
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:24 p.m. CST
Give it to the Pixar gents, Bird or Stanton, please.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
They're the closest thing we have to Golden Era Spielberg and Lucas. And Jim Henson, a new Star Wars needs that magic.
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But not as stupid as the prequels.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:25 p.m. CST
Spielberg should direct Episode VII (if not VIII and IX as well...)
by Tom Yorke
And Daniel Day-Lewis should star as the main villain. The new Sith Lord. Make it so motherfuckers!
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:25 p.m. CST
I for one, have always wished for an epic movie titled simply 'MADMARTIGAN'
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
The greatest swordsman that ever lived.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:26 p.m. CST
Does Spielberg have the passion though? Crystal Skull was meh, like he phoned it in.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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If I remember right (I'm fucking old) It was supposed to be about Luke and Leia's kids. Getting into adventures and shit like that. That was the rumor many moons ago.
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fucked that rumor up. So, I guess now it would be Han and Leia's kids. Anyway. Kids. That's the gist of it.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:29 p.m. CST
And Fassbender could play a younger Grand Moff Tarkin type character
by Tom Yorke
Mark Pellegrino as Luke's son? Just spitballin' here.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:29 p.m. CST
Isn't the new film ignoring the canon/novels though?
by Hardboiled Wonderland
The press release said it's an original story. So Leia/Han might not even have kids in the new film. Unlikely, but who knows.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:30 p.m. CST
Oh come now, overrated. Toddler Willow's pig race to free himself from slavery was superb
by Hardboiled Wonderland
The greatest CGI since Clash Of The Titans (original).
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I just remember that rumor going around sometime after Empire came out. Then it went away when he suddenly denied anything about a 3rd trilogy.
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Salmonella can distort one's perspective. I've experienced this first hand.
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...or no one.
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decently paced movie. I like his stuff--but his style doesn't fit Star Wars. Might as well suggest Herzog. Makes about as much sense.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:38 p.m. CST
overrated -- and I've seen films that had that effect on me!
by Hardboiled Wonderland
I'll post in the top article of the day on Sunday and let you know how my rewatching of Kick Ass and Stardust goes, see if my perspective has changed over the years. I'm still not convinced Vaughn is the right fit for a Star Wars movie though. Whatever the case, the decision is out of my hands and Disney/George will do what they think is best.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:38 p.m. CST
Or Christian Bale as the dark side flirting, anti-hero that is luke's only son...
by Tom Yorke
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but I can't see how 'the adventures of the children' can be any good...
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It's probably not what it is anymore. I wouldn't panic.
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I think i've seen enough Bale recently. He's kinda worn out his welcome at this point.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:39 p.m. CST
Just please, a request to whoever directs the new Star Wars -- buy Ford a nice horse, we want Han Solo back.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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So, everyone's theory of securing a director with a solid resume just went out the window.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:41 p.m. CST
BEST IDEA YET: Hire the people who were in charge of creating those EPIC Old Republic Cinematic Trailers
by Tom Yorke
Holy SHIT, those were amazing.
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He just tweeted a little bit ago that he had a meeting at disney today.....
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That never even occurred to me. Ugh.
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Seriously, go watch the Empire Strikes Back with the score to There Will Be Blood playing in the background. It sync's up perfectly...
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on tattooine. Kung-Fu training, character building, team making, problem solving...Wachowskis...
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...from a Dark Tower series as possible is fine with me.
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Or how about letting the ghost of Ingmar Bergman direct?
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Russell Crowe as Roland, Joseph Gordon Levitt as Eddie. Make it so. Heck, Matthew Vaughn can even direct it!
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Is that true? Cuz I'll do it. Don't waste my time lol
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:49 p.m. CST
I want to see that There Will Be Blood scored Empire Strikes Back on YouTube soon, hail_to_the_thief and pretentious!
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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Now I know my purpose for this year.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:50 p.m. CST
Question: does the new director/writer/s have a blank slate or is George giving them the basic story?
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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may be an honorary title thing. Creative Consultant can mean a lot of things.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:51 p.m. CST
Hardboiled... do NOT blame the food poisoning on your negative reaction to Vaughn's films
by Tom Yorke
They are SHIT, pure and simple. As someone who was not afflicted with a digestive issue at the time of viewing, i can safely say that they are OBJECTIVELY CRAP. No if's and's or but's about it.
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I liked all of his films. I think all of them do point to him being able to do a good Star Wars film.
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MINUS 1,000 internets to you for that post.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:54 p.m. CST
haha, thats awesome... i just totally pulled that greenwood/empire thing outta my ass as a joke, but...
by Tom Yorke
That might actually work lol
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:54 p.m. CST
I think I'll watch The Princess Bride instead of Stardust, but I made a promise to overrated I'll rewatch Kick Ass
by Hardboiled Wonderland
I'll even go so far as to wear adult diapers, in the interests of objective film watching. However, I can think of better things to do on a Saturday night than rewatch a film I associate with the opening scenes of Trainspotting ...
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might as well do it now...Start with Episode I!
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=The script significantly altered the personality of the title character, chose to play the story straight instead of as a satire, removed the surrealist elements, and added supernatural elements that could highlight special effects work done by Lucas' Industrial Light & Magic= Lucas
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:58 p.m. CST
MY WORRY IS THAT THIS WILL BE THE GODFATHER 3 ALL OVER AGAIN!!! GOOD THING LUCAS DOESN'T HAVE A HOOK NOSED DAUGHTER!!! HE HAS TWO DAUGHTERS; A LARDASS AND A MMA FIGHTING DIESEL DYKE!!!FACT!!!
by CreepyThinManForever
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Nov. 5, 2012, 8:58 p.m. CST
The first trailer for Episode VII should have no audio/sound except to have Sail to the Moon playing over it...
by Tom Yorke
That's the kind of tone i'm looking for.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 9:01 p.m. CST
Argh, I saw Howard the Duck the same time I was playing the RPG RuneQuest which had duck-people in it
by Hardboiled Wonderland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorantha#Specifically_Gloranthan_Creatures My brain, it burns, get it out of me, get the ducks away...! !!
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Nov. 5, 2012, 9:02 p.m. CST
And the 2nd trailer should feature the final sequence from Paranoid Android
by Tom Yorke
From a great height...
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Nov. 5, 2012, 9:02 p.m. CST
If there's a 70+y/o Han Solo, then may as well paint the Falcon beige
by Hardboiled Wonderland
And make Solo wear a driving cap.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 9:04 p.m. CST
Funny, I was thinking Chloe Moretz would be an awesome central character.
by tom_quinn
I was thinking you open up with Han and Leia receiving an honor celebrating 30 years of peace in the galaxy. We get to see the characters we love and the acting does not have to do any heavy lifting, but should be solid and iconic. They have a son who really doesn't want to be there, and a grandson who is 10, but never says wizard. Set the story up so their son is the central character. Then, figure swarm on the house at night. The son breaks open dad's old case of blasters and here we go.... Then they are all killed. Every last one. Cut to Chloe Moretz at school, their daughter. She gets the news and goes home, but there is nothing left. This starts off a sequence where the same figures are hunting her without her knowing and also a hooded figure - a la the first 20 minutes of Terminator. It culminates when the hooded figure is revealed as Luke Skywalker, aged, but quick and noble with a lightsaber. He's been living in the mountains - all Jedi eventually remove themselves from a peaceful society because the temptations are too great. The Dark Side never goes away. He knows what she doesn't. That her brother is alive. Captured. And they have to go save him. I'd prefer to see Duncan Jones or someone else with dramatic chops like Andrew Dominik.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 9:06 p.m. CST
FUCK IT!!! CAST RON JEREMY AS JABBA THE SMUTT!!! PAUL REUBENS AS HAND SOLO!!! JUSTIN BIEBER AS LUKE BUTTFUCKER!!! MILEY CYRUS AS PRINCESS CUMDUPSTER!!! LEXINGTON STEELE AS VAG INVADER!!! MAX HARDCORE AS OBEY MY-ONE-EYE!!! AL GOLDSTEIN AS GRAND MUFF MUNCHI
by CreepyThinManForever
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The Emperor sez "once more the sith will rule the galaxy. And we will have peace. Let's see a movie about those times!!
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He has already worked for Lucas on the Young Indiana Jones series and he's more than competent.
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and CGI artist Dan Platt- Who's CGI human work includes- Clu, Benjamin Button, and the Tupac Hologram. Dan also did digital human head work for X-Men First Class. So Matt has worked him before. Dan deserves to be a name like Rick Baker, Dick Smith and Stan Winston and Tom Savini. That guy is doing for CGI what those guys did for practical. I believe in Kosinksi, and he really wanted to give us a Black Hole remake. He know's how to work with CGI head replacement work.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 9:16 p.m. CST
get Tim Burton (who has worked with Disney), score by, who else? Danny Elfman.
by hank henshaw
Star Wars needs some more goth sensibilities to it. Vader was pretty goth, wasn't he? ;-P
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Pee's Big Adventure....he's all about the freaks...and the design of the movie...zero characterizations.... and shit music.
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So, no. The Wachowskis would be good for a stand-alone bounty hunters movie somewhere down the line, though.
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Empire/Sith were mature. Not gritty.
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I'll be enjoying yourself and you'll be ironic...how sad.
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It's not like Ford's birth cirtificate is ran across the screen every 4 seconds.....after a certain age we are all worthless, eh? Do you work for hospitals with Obamacare?
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Nov. 5, 2012, 9:27 p.m. CST
People are afraid that he's going to die before he can finish filming his role, that's all
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
We don't want another Oliver Reed situation here.
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Sadly theres some bad blood between him and GL, and honestly it's not Frank's fault. He gave Indy a whole year of his life, and lots of his ideas were used in Crystal Skull. Lucas didn't completely sign over Star Wars to Disney. He'll still have a say- He's a big time share holder now.
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John Carter's only problem is perception...solid flick... JC is the new Heaven's Gate. A fine enough flick, just mismarketed and turned into a whipping post for epic fail.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 9:29 p.m. CST
Just read the first half of this talkback and i have come to the conclusion that Creepy has LOST HIS FUCKING MIND!!! FACT!!!
by Tom Yorke
CTM, u actually have the GALL to defend the miscreant known as Matt Vaughn? And claim that First Class is *the best X-Men film*?!? The...FUCK?? U deride Francis Lawrence, yet you defend the UBER-HACK known as Matthew Vaughn?!? Constantine had more cinematic heft in one (beautifully composed) shot than Vaughn's done in his whole CAREER!!! FACT!!! I call shenanigans, sir! Who are you and what the hell did you do with the real CTM!? IMPOSTER!!! FACT!!!
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...Ben Affleck or Nicolas Winding Refn ...meanwhile in the real world.... Executive Producer: J.J. Abrahams Writer: Damon Lindelof Director: John Favreau +Barkeeper cameo for J.J.'s buddy Greg Grunberg
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Nov. 5, 2012, 9:30 p.m. CST
And DO NOT let the Tron:Legacy bitch anywhere near this trilogy
by Tom Yorke
Good God... what a silly, bland, pandering flick that was.
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He's made one good film- Badlands.... He'd turn the Sith/Jedi... into pondering poetic wankers sitting on a rope swing while a war is going on....
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What's the problem with you miserable turds?
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Star Wars Episode VII - The Thin Red Lightsaber No fuckin' thanks.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 9:34 p.m. CST
That's what I mean, hail to the thief. Davis' Matrix work is reeaaaally subtle
by D.Vader
We don't need subtlety, we need operatics! As for your list, I'd take Horner off of it. He repeats himself far, far too often nowadays. The Horner of the Willow days, I'd say yes please! The Horner of the Past decade, I say no thanks. Giacchino is the best replacement. James Newton Howard makes some beautiful music (hello The Village), but the former artist has a better feel for leitmotifs, I think.
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The Mummy Returns? Van Helsing?!? Would be fucking AWESOME.
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I see the one who calls himself *the choppah* is still posting here. I still hope that one day the TRUE... the ONE AND ONLY *Da Choppah* makes his long awaited reappearance...
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Silly people are silly.
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The hard texture of his science fiction isn't what SW needs. Fincher is way fucking too dark. I love Fight Club, but that's not the right feel. Michael Bay's movies feel like they're on speed. All three Transformers movies sucked. Bird, Abrams, or Whedon could do it well. Spielberg has my vote. Cuaron would be perfect if it's going to be another Campbell bildungsroman.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 9:39 p.m. CST
Can't believe no one's mentioned Brett Ratner, either
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
Ep. 7 The Rat Ep. 8 McG Ep. 9 Len Wiseman That would be enough to make me have a heart attack.
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Turd made me laugh with that list.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 9:42 p.m. CST
Here's my plan for Disney to make it's $4 billion back triple:
by Just_Some_Guy
Give $1 billion to Brad Bird Spend $1billion on each of the three new Star Wars films Make $12 billion from box office, toys, and video game tie-ins. Total profit: $9 billion. (I'll take one of those billions for the idea....)
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For the gritty, dark tone I'd like to see in an adult Star Wars. Vaughn, del Toro (he'd be all over it, talking about it for 10 years before finally dropping out), Brad WHO? Bird - not so much.
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Episode VIII - Mark Steven Johnson Episode IX - Pitof
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Del Toro likes magic and monsters, which is cool, but Brad Bird can handle real characters, emotions, action, and spectacle and make it all work seamlessly. By the way: Del Toro is the perfect choice for a Masters of the Universe movie.
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Episode VIII - Jonathan Liebesman Episode IX - Kaos (Ballistick: Ecks vs. Sever FTW!!)
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As you were.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 9:46 p.m. CST
No Ratner, Bay, McG, Emmerich, Rob Cohen, Steven Sommers, Nispel, Berg, or Kevin fucking Smith
by Stegman84
Honestly, as far as directors go, as long as they avoid any of the nightmare scenarios above and their ilk then that will be good enough for me.
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Sure, if You think cool visuals are bland and a story that supposes God is not perfect and makes mistakes is pandering, then I guess so. Me? I'll disagree with everything youve said and say TRON: Legacy is a beautiful looking, but flawed film, with some heady ideas under the surface not normally found in special effects-laden blockbuster family films.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 9:48 p.m. CST
Tron:Legacy looks like a tv movie that was shot on a sound stage
by Tom Yorke
NO DEPTH. Visually or screenplay-wise.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 9:49 p.m. CST
hail_to_the_thief, X-MEN:FC TURNED MY OPINION AROUND ON VAUGHN!!! I DON'T LIKE KICK ASS OR STARDUST BUT I ENJOYED LAYER CAKE AND THINK HE SHOULD DO A BOND MOVIE!!!FACT!!! BUT HIS X-MEN IS A VERY WELL CRAFTED FILM GIVEN THE LIMITED TIME HE HAD AND....
by CreepyThinManForever
I can't believe how good it was considering he had less than a year to get it done. I think it was genius to set it during the Cuban Missle Crisis and absolutely love that era. I also loved his shot composition and the cinematography was excellent; deep rich color but not glossy. The score was great, fantastic set design and costumes were very well done. But what I appreciated most of all was the dynamics of the characters and the way the actors played them. Sure, not everything was perfect but the structure and charcter arc's were well handled. This movie is basically designed to set up the X-men mythos and I thought it was good how it all came together in the end. It was also awesome how Vaughn and Goldman gave the movie a scale with the USA/Soviet tensions and before mentioned Cuban Missle Crisis. This movie felt GLOBAL which is something I never got from Bryan Singers X-men flicks which come off as small and appear to be shot on four or five large sets. They just feel very confined to me. Oh and Vaughn had JOHN "STAR WARS" DYKSTRA as his visual effect supervisor. That and Jane Goldman's tits make X-Men: First Class worthy.
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He turned Star Trek around and made it awesome again, he can do the same for Star Wars!
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Nov. 5, 2012, 9:49 p.m. CST
Lots of COLORFUL, SHINY structures and textures does not a visually appealing film, make, vader!
by Tom Yorke
You disappoint me, young padawan...
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Nov. 5, 2012, 9:50 p.m. CST
Creepy, you think it was Vaughn's decision to add the Cuban Missile Crisis?
by D.Vader
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Nov. 5, 2012, 9:50 p.m. CST
slicer, JAR JAR ABRAMS TOOK STAR TREK AND MADE IT INTO A GENERIC SCI-FI ACTION MOVIE!!!FACT!!!
by CreepyThinManForever
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Now I know you're joking or looking to make a noticeable quip.
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Kevin Fucking Costner. Yup, that just happened.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 9:52 p.m. CST
Every single Singer X-Men film was set in a reservoir, landfill, state park or skater hangout.
by reflecto
I can't imagine what Bryan Singer would be doing at a skater park.
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Im talking about the overall cinematic look, the shot choices, the lenses, the editing, and yes the look. It's nowhere near a tv movie level, which is being mean just for the sake of backing up ones opinion.
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Pacing issues to the max.
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Wrong and wrong. Legacy was utter wank, man. The script was abhorrent. Didn't those no talent ass-clown hacks kitsis and horowitz write that garbage? Maybe not. Too tired to look it up. Either way that film was a bloated, obvious, mess. But i'm glad you dug it.
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Hell to the yeah.
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Ep. XXI: Jon Chu Ep. XXII: Emily Hagis
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I thought we were talking visuals, not script. But yeah, its was written by them and yeah I dug it. Underrated in my opinion.
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Silly guy thinks Vaughn "resurrected" the X-Men franchise considering First ClASS was no better than Ratner's cinematic dump... and that Singer will "ruin" it all over again, considering his first 2 fantastic films are what ushered in the new era of solid comic book adaptations in cinema. Dork.
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He'd fill in pretty good for johnny boy, as well.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:01 p.m. CST
Oh and i just remembered John Powell. How to Train Your Dragon??
by Tom Yorke
Fucking incredible score.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:02 p.m. CST
There is more cinematic artistry/integrity in the first film's opening with Xavier and Erik in the hallway...
by Tom Yorke
Than ANYTHING post-Singer in the X-Men universe. FACT.
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Episode XXLIVXI - Spike Lee Episode CXLI4G~Q - Paul Haggis
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And make sure Sy Snootles makes a cameo.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:07 p.m. CST
Thief, you and I both know Bryan Singer cannot direct action and that he does all his films on the cheap. All he cares about is verve and camerawork and his twinks. Great suspense, shit at action. He made bargain basement comic book movies he sneered a
by reflecto
Sorry, I'll take Vaughn's pulp poetry over another round of Bryan Singer's "the X-Men fight more humans in parkas in an underground parking lot, starring Wolverine and this 19 yo I just creampied."
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I will assume that was already known.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:09 p.m. CST
d.vader, I KNOW SINGER DEVELOPED THE IDEA OF 1962 BEING THE ERA THAT THIS WAS SET IN BUT VAUGHN/GOLDMAN RAN WITH IT!!!FACT!!!
by CreepyThinManForever
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:09 p.m. CST
Star Wars Episode VII - A New Dawn... written for the screen by Damon Lindelof, Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz... Directed by PAUL HAGGIS
by Tom Yorke
*Thief shoots himself in the temple*
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:11 p.m. CST
JJ Abrams? Really? Do you WANT Star Wars to be bland and lifeless?
by Just_Some_Guy
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:11 p.m. CST
Oh jesus christ shut up about xmen 2 and spiderman 2 they are both tv movie garbage. Xmen first class equivalent to shit streaked toilet paper.
by sagamanus
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I want the shit you're smokin', mate. Poetry of any kind and Matthew effin' Vaughn do not go together. Remind me again please, of the POETIC like action sequences/choreography in first clASS? ...? Yeah, that's what i thought.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:12 p.m. CST
d.vader, "Michael Kamen is dead", I HOPE SO BECAUSE THEY FUCKING BURIED HIM!!!FACT!!!
by CreepyThinManForever
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:13 p.m. CST
This is the key problem with fanboys. We mythologize the past vs looking at today and the hard facts. The facts are comic book films have much higher standards than what Singer churned out on an assembly line when you were younger, and David Fincher sho
by reflecto
It's a skewed take on both the love of the past and the modern times. You cannot apply your childhood favorite to your hot dark director of today or vice versa.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:14 p.m. CST
'should not direct SW just because he is cool to you now' I HATE THIS ANCIENT TALKBACK
by reflecto
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anyone who thinks of 'the guy who did the Tupac hologram' as anywhere near related to the likes of a Rick Baker needs to fucking check themselves. Hollywood has been sold out to CGI people and PIXAR. Want to know why cinema's more shallow since 1977?? You don't have to look far.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:15 p.m. CST
Hail, I could go on and on about the opening with young Erik, the Nazi hunter sequences, the boat sequence, the finale and so forth. As opposed to
by reflecto
black leather PVC TV actors running around a Museum with bad CGI and a bunch of humans
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Prince of Thieves FTW. And the first X-Men is still to this day, one of the best, more underappreciated scores to any comic book film.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:17 p.m. CST
Name a fantastic action sequence in a Singer film not set in an industrial park or cheap set with visible bad CGI, FX and mute stuntmen, or mostly human villains.
by reflecto
And no, "Lady Deathstrike" does not count. A rich character in the comics, but Kelly Hu doesn't have a single line in the fucking film. NOT A CHARACTER.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:17 p.m. CST
Reflecto - Leave the psycho-analyzing to the professionals
by Tom Yorke
FAIL
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Ep. VII Steven Spielberg. He always wanted to direct an episode and I think he would keep it similiar in style to that which came before. Ep. VIII Frank Darabont. The middle of the new trilogy would be where you flesh out that characters and Darabont would be good in that regard. Ep. IX Joe Johnston. Cut his teeth with Star Wars. Would wrap it up with a satisfying conclusion. The sequel trilogy is part of the core stories. I would like to see a similar style to that which came before. After that if they want to do a Whedon directed film with witty banter and Shwarma feasting or a JJ Abrams Boba Fett film with lens flares or what ever be my guest.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:19 p.m. CST
Translation: "I know you're right, but I loved X-Men 1 when I was 11"
by reflecto
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But yes bc of X2.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:21 p.m. CST
reflecto - the mansion sequence in X-2 blows anything in FC outta the frickin' water
by Tom Yorke
I like how you selectively talk about the first film while neglecting everything from the 2nd. And the opening with young erik was one of the most hilariously mishandled, awkward, poorly written/performed, embarrassing scene from any film that year. That shit shoulda been nominated for a damn Razzie lol
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:21 p.m. CST
You guys are repeating the same mistakes before the prequels, and if they fall are you going to commit suicide as if the last chapter in your life has ended?
by sagamanus
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Mainly bc they buried someone there...
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:22 p.m. CST
Which reminds me... the opening in the REAL X-men film (Singer's original)
by Tom Yorke
was PHENOMENAL. The kid actor was LEAGUE'S better than the little asshat from FC, and it was beautifully understated and it featured no dialogue... just powerful imagery and michael kamen's AWESOME SCORE. I win.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:24 p.m. CST
The Nightcrawler scene in the White House at the opening of X2 had everyone in the theater shitting their pants.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
And. Usual Suspects. One of the greatest noirs of all time AND one of the few movies of its era to stand right next to Pulp Fiction (without being a sad fanboy homage like, say The Boondock Saints, which you probably loved) So. You're stupid, and you don't understand camp, tone, or style. Go home now, the grown ups are talking. Singer's films are witty, dark and beautiful. You don't get that... well go back to playing with your wrestling action figures and making gay jokes at the trailer park.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:24 p.m. CST
THIS TALKBACK BORES ME NOW SO LET'S JUST SPECULATE ON WHETHER HAN HAD TO OCCASINALLY SHAVE CHEWBACCA'S ASS SO SHIT DIDN'T STICK TO HIS FUR AND GET ON THE FALCON'S SEATS?!?FACT!!!
by CreepyThinManForever
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Nice one.
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I was 18 when Singer's film was released. And as i stated before, i have already won this argument. Case closed.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:27 p.m. CST
after seeing the masterpiece that was TRICK R TREAT
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
I just wish they would give Singer and his guys MORE projects to work on. Superman Returns was just laying down the groundwork, its a bummer they never got to go beyond the first one.
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lol I knew i was gonna like you. The White House opening, the aforementioned Mansion sequence, the Lady Deathstrike/Wolvey showdown? Badassness. FC had out of place kevin bacon, shitty looking beast, sparkly crystal lady, plastic mystique, and... Tornardo guy??
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:32 p.m. CST
You're right, that one sequence in two movies is really enough to excuse those cheap-ass, badly-aged Singer X-Men movies. Keep clinging to that one sequence.
by reflecto
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Nice to be back. But i must be on my way... gonna go see Argo finally. And luckily for me, there is a showing of Flight 20 minutes before Argo starts. So i can go sneak into that one to watch the eagerly anticipated FULL FRONTAL NUDE DEBUT from the gorgeous Nadine Velasquez in the opening minutes and then head on over to the showing of Argo. Bitchin'.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:38 p.m. CST
X2 is okay. But it's not great. It's another movie in another industrial locale with more humans and people in winter jackets and barely legal guys pouting at each other.
by reflecto
The last thing X-Men movies need are more mutants fighting humans on the cheap, more Wolverine focus, more bland bland bland sets, action and ideas. We all love Brian Cox but what was really going on there? He does a good job but it is a cliff's notes of the Stryker character from the graphic novel. He's mean and he hates mutants and he might have a kid or something, no one's really sure what happened there. And we only have about a thousand bucks left so let's just crank this thing out with a bunch of humans and extras and find the nearest reservoir we can use. Give me a fucking break.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:40 p.m. CST
I got my overcoat (with the pockets cut out of course) and hand lotion all ready...
by Tom Yorke
*This is about to get gross* -Rafi
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Your criticisms seem to treat Singer's films as if they were made at the same time as the current superhero craze, with the same budgets and same level of effects.
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All i care about seeing is that EPIC latina body in all it's nekkid glory. Sorry... you wouldn't be able to appreciate that, apparently. :(
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In a world where people blindly hate mutants, uhhh, I think we're ALL clear what happened there. The man hates mutants. The man has a mutant son. Professor X didn't cure the son of his mutation. Stryker seeks revenge and a way to destroy all mutants. Really, whats not to get? You're oversimplifying this, I'm afraid,reflecto.
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MY LEFT ASS CHEEK. Who is sucking WHO's cock here? Really.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:47 p.m. CST
Hail, if I could suck off Vaughn I would but the dude is happily married. Thanks for the gut check.
by reflecto
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:50 p.m. CST
The fact that Singer gives props to Gary Godard who directed Masters of the Universe
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
shows me that he has an old school sense of fun and theatricality to his filmmaking. The black leather suits in X-Men notwithstanding... He knows its okay to have some style, camp, and flourish in your movie without it spilling into flimsy heavy-handed teen drama like X-Men First Class and what's his next project? JACK THE GIANT KILLER. Straight out of the Harryhausen era... and if we're lucky, that means the 80's Clash of the Titans and not the the Worthington Clash of the Titans in terms of how he's going to tell his story. Apt Pupil, prob one of the best Stephen King adaptations ever. AND with Trick R Treat, Dougherty and the other guys responsible for that movie came as CLOSE to John Carpenter style horror as anyone I've seen in a very long time. There are a lot of filmmakers out there claiming to be influenced by 1982 filmmaking, but Ratner, Vaughn, Wiseman... its a Looooong fucking list of guys just pretending and getting millions thrown at them to make hollow films vying for that elusive 80's rebel-vibe.... Superman Returns and Trick R Treat are both flicks you would have SEEN on HBO in 1982, and not just some slicked up modern CGI bullshit. And just because you hire a pro wrestler (The Rock, Roddy Piper AND Tyler Mane have all done credible work... AND.. Andre the Giant???) doesn't mean they can't put in a good performance. It's pretty easy to stereotype people and reduce them to rest areas and skate parks. They do it to gays all the time
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Its all easily spelled out in the movie.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:50 p.m. CST
And BTW - at least 50-70% of the shit with Stryker and his son all has to be gleaned from inference. God knows they don't really explain it. It's shoved here because oops, no time or money.
by reflecto
Same reason they hire a bunch of cheap TV actors, pro wrestlers or mute stuntmen. Same reason Kelly Hu has no lines or character despite that one overrated scene people cream over. Same reason 90% of the villains in Singer's X-Men movies are more faceless humans in jumpsuits and winter jackets, or voiceless mutant extras with shit CGI'ed on their faces. They blew through half the X-Men character canon in two movies thinking a lot of extras in the bg would be all they needed to make fans jizz their pants regardless of utilizing anyone well. For some, they were right. Same reason almost every location is some shithole in the middle of nowhere. Same reason no character in the movies other than Wolverine, Rogue and Singer's latest fucktoy has a character arc. Same reason he felt guilty enough about misusing Cyclops that he apparently decided he wanted to make "Superman Returns" into "James Marsden Saves The Day, While Wet And In Tight Clothes"
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:52 p.m. CST
Oh, SPARE ME with the "white guy who's just like me praises old filmmakers I love." This is the same crutch Singer and JJ Abrams have relied on.
by reflecto
Oh, I didn't need to make a good Superman movie - I just wanted to PAY HOMAGE TO RICHARD DONNER
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Is explained through dialogue. The characters actually EXPLAIN everything you're ignoring.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:54 p.m. CST
Trick R Treat was masturbation fodder for fanboys tearfully remembering Creepshow. But Creepshow it ain't. It's a mediocre effort at best given full freight by geeks needing a new hope.
by reflecto
There were a million movies like that in the last ten years, all heavily promoted by AICN and geek sites, and 90% of them were either mediocre and disappointing or absolute shit.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:55 p.m. CST
I don't remember any of that dialogue. I remember a mute guy showing up behind Patrick Stewart's head all the time so Singer could flex his lens and a few lines here or there.
by reflecto
But admittedly, I haven't seen the thing in a few years.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:55 p.m. CST
Reflecto- "voiceless mutant extras with shit CGI'ed on their faces"?
by D.Vader
Ok I'm done with this conversation. Its clear you have no idea what you're talking about and you're clearly either lying about things or you're just ignorant about the truth.
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Nov. 5, 2012, 10:56 p.m. CST
Okay, tell me all about the layered characterizations for Toad, Deathstrike, and Mystique. Go on. Rebecca Romijn's breasts are not a character trait.
by reflecto
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You've shown everyone here you Haven't done your homework and shouldn't be involved in this debate bc of it. You've made mistakes and told outright lies to try and prove you're right. I'm going to bed.
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I like you too, but I think you're dead wrong here and have gone about the wrong way of trying to advocate your point (lack of evidence, misinformation). And seriously, I have to get to bed now!
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He wanted to do the prequels back in the day. Let him do one!
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Nov. 6, 2012, 12:10 a.m. CST
The worse part of the Disney deal is that they will use all CG and no model work
by MooseMalloy
Yes, once again, there was a TON of model work in the prequels.
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Nov. 6, 2012, 12:24 a.m. CST
Obviously a good Star Wars director will need to be able to:
by ufoclub1977
1. Continue the mood of "verisimilitude" that governed the great pop genre movies of the 70's like Star Wars, Superman, Close Encounters, The Exorcist... etc. In other words be able to imagine the fantastic elements, sounds, and attitudes of characters through a filter that relates it all to the contemporary reality. 2. Be able to understand the pacing and structure, the stops and starts, the travelogue aspect, of an adventure film like a war film, a western, or a old samurai movie. 3. Understands how to surprise an audience by surpassing expectations with imaginative set pieces that still support #1 above. 4. Understand how to create characters that have motivation, passion, and life to them, and an arch of development or duty that is shaped by the extraordinary adventure they are part of. 5. Not to pander to children or slapstick children's humor. But do have some humor and some spirit of banter between characters. 6. Create a feeling of dread by making the deaths, the battles seem to have danger, and a real threat to them. For example look at the state Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen are in in their final shot in the great "Star Wars". that made the stormtroopers a legit threat.
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Michael Fassbender as the villain and Daniel Craig as the hero! Make it so, Vaughn! ;)
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Keep it to one Jedi learner (never use the P word dammit) and Luke as the old master. Maybe Yoda force ghost puppet.
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Was going to say Singer or Vaughn would make for solid directors. Both classical Hollywood storytellers. In the case of Singer, look at Valkrie, and Vaughn obviously Xmas First Class. Both would better fits then directors like Nolan or Wright, both of whom are excellent in their own right, but of different styles.
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Nov. 6, 2012, 1:46 a.m. CST
I have to say that I love the first two X-Men movies, but after seeing First Class I have a hard time watching the Singer ones now.
by Paul
Their still good, but First Class is better. As an X-Men fan, I agree with reflecto's points. With all respect.
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It's like boiling mashed potatoes.
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J. Michael Straczynski, Ronald D. Moore or Johnathan Frakes B-)
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Happy to see the back of George Lucas and welcome Matthew Vaughn with open arms. Idiots.
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Seriously, if you guys thought Lucas' prequel scripts were bad, imagine what this talentless fuck would conjure up...
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Nov. 6, 2012, 3:27 a.m. CST
Rian Johnson, Darren Aronofsky, Edgar Wright, and Alfonso Cuarón
by Chris
These are the guys who should be seriously considered. Honestly, Johnson would be my #1 choice at the moment. Paul Thoma Anderson would be an interesting choice as well, especially seeing that his writing is impeccable. However, I don't know how that could/would work.
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It's not going to have anything to do with the Skywalkers. Starkiller is the strongest force user in the entire SW universe and he is considered cannon. The Force Unleashed is the highest selling SW video game ever made and that means it outsold Battlefront and Battlefront II. You heard it here first. Starkiller makes Yoda look like a pussy. His force abilities are almost endless. More can be done with him in terms of force usage than any other character in the SW universe EU or otherwise.
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Nov. 6, 2012, 5 a.m. CST
Just saw JOHN CARTER for the 1st time this weekend, I agree Stanton would be a good choice
by Rebel Scumb
that movie was much better than the trailers suggested
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Just can't wait!
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Nov. 6, 2012, 5:21 a.m. CST
@gremlin517 better find an alternative if theres a let down that or the hanging rope
by sagamanus
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Nov. 6, 2012, 5:30 a.m. CST
First Class is on exactly the same level as the other X-Men movies
by Autodidact
The biggest difference is the age of Magneto and the colour of the leather costumes. And the little lesbian playing Jean Luc. I mean Xavier.
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Nov. 6, 2012, 5:39 a.m. CST
I kinda understand the "looks like TV" critique that comes from the chosen-for-cheapness settings and the mostly reserved camera work. X-2 is the best looking one. First Class looks like TV in much of the climax if you ask me
by Autodidact
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the movie, but the look of it is along exactly the same lines as the other 3 X-Men movies. Singer has a *better eye* than Vaughn while Vaughn had five years of new technology to work with.
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Nov. 6, 2012, 5:43 a.m. CST
I feel like X-MEN 1 and 2 don't get enough credit for their clear and purposeful execution
by Autodidact
Let's just hope Singer steps up the visuals in this one. My main thought on comic book movies is that they should be visually striking. Not all in the same way for either, for fuck's sake. Just have some style, you're making art!
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I dont want to waste time here. point one, missed out on Hobbit (and other large projects Mountains of Madness) so probably has the ambition for this and since he considered the Hobbit was not afraid of a huge established franchise. point two, great creative and visual skills esp with creature design. remember the bar in Star Wars (A new hope), remember all the strange aliens in ROTJ (excluding Ewoks), remember the change in scene moving to a swamp world to find Yoda. del Toro can do that, add some imagination. For me (and maybe only me) I loved seeing the strange aliens and things on the screen. I love the documentaries where they discussed making the creatures. Now with CGI the magic has gone. point three, there isnt one really. Im not against Vaughn etc, I just think del Toro has the visual skills that Lucas originally brought to the films.
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Nov. 6, 2012, 5:50 a.m. CST
Vaughn would be a great choice, but to be honest, i'd perfer a brad bird star wars movie......
by Father
...written by a team of pixars best writers, Shot on film and utilising real sets , practical effects work as well as the CGI. Oh yes.
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Nov. 6, 2012, 5:52 a.m. CST
1. WACHOWSKIS (won't happen) 2. Spielberg (maybe too late... isn't he almost 70 just like GL?) 3. Del Toro (this is not fanboyism, he has the chops) 4. Brad Bird
by Autodidact
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Nov. 6, 2012, 6:01 a.m. CST
This is the new Golden Age of Directors, plenty to choose from.
by iluvsyfy
Over the last forty years, films have just a splattering of truly great directors; Kurosawa...Spielberg...Scorsese...Scott...Kubrick...Coppola...Mann...Tarantino...Allen...Malick, not since the 1930's through 60's, has there been such a herd of directors appear in Hollywood within a decade. Besides those listed above still around we have Nolan...Fincher...Aronofsky...Whedon...Cuaron...Cameron...Jackson...Wachowski's...Coen's and those on the rise such as Vaughn...Hooper...Affleck...Singer and Synder (insert name here). Disney has a list to look over not seen since the era of Ford, Wise, Wyler, Capra, Lean, Huston, DeMille, Wilder, Hitchcock (and I could keep rattling on). This beget's our problem because with such a list of directors out there, everyone has their favorites.
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Nov. 6, 2012, 6:05 a.m. CST
The fuckin thing about SUPERMAN RETURNS... the ideal Lois was on-screen in the wrong role. Parker Posey should have been Lois Lane!
by Autodidact
Parker Posey man... imagine her scissoring with Zooey Deschanel... I'm sorry what were we talking about?
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Now that would be something. Keep it in the family by recruiting Larry Kasdan on script duties. I think Joe Johnston would be an interesting choice, yet another Lucas alumni. Matthew Vaughn might be capable of handling the material - after all, he did handle the "X-men" with assurance. Bryan Singer would be a worthy choice, with John Ottman adapting Williams' music (his score was probably the best thing about Superman Returns). If they want to make a fulfilling new "Star Wars" flick, then the writers better get cracking - especially since it has been given a 2015 release - otherwise we'll be handed a run-of-the-mill average Sci-Fi movie.
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Nov. 6, 2012, 7:07 a.m. CST
Hey UltraTron can you easily prove you are an American citizen? Yup. Poof! Total confirmation Bam! Done. Absolutely no question about it. American poof done.
by UltraTron
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Nov. 6, 2012, 7:08 a.m. CST
I don't know who I want to direct starwars but I know I'm more qualified to run the country.
by UltraTron
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MARK STEVEN JOHNSON ! JOEL SCHUMACHER ! STEPHEN SOMMERS ! LOUIS LETERRIER ! TIM STORY ! ALL proven, "reliable", obedient choads that will elevate Star Wars to the cultural plateau it TRULY deserves !
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Nov. 6, 2012, 7:22 a.m. CST
The Wachowski duo are too fetish-obsessed for SW. You
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
see it even in Speed Racer, which was intended for kids. One example, the shot up Ricci's leg pumping on a pedal in her copter. Fun for adults, but totally inappropriate in Speed Racer. Google "pedal pumping."
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but I hope they actually keep getting treatments or at least plots from Lucas, or even run everything by him. The devil is in the details when it comes to him
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Nov. 6, 2012, 7:43 a.m. CST
bednobs: gimme a break. Kids see more than that on the infonaut mesh every day.
by UltraTron
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Nov. 6, 2012, 7:48 a.m. CST
It's funny when people talk about Kasdan and Kirshner
by Thunderbolt Ross
When he wrote Empire, Kasdan had no more pull than Jonathan Hales. Look at Kirshner's work outside of Empire and tell me there's anything that suggests he would be the man for a new Star Wars movie. I mean, god bless them both, and certainly their contributions were very important, but they are not the auteurs people make them out to be.
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But Verbinski or Bird would also be solid choices.
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Don't remember where else I could have got that million dollars, custom made Purdy shotgun, H2 undrivable for all the Cuban cigars crammed inside, and the Jabba the Hutt tattoo across my lower lip. Also, when I woke up, I was clutching a page in courier new with a printed line of dialogue: "Are you gonna talk economics and politics all eon, baby, or are we going to blast out of here?"
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WWZ may not endear him to anyone in the SW camp, however. Alfonso Cuaron, Ang Lee, and Brad Bird are all good choices. Matthew Vaughn, no.
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I'm gonna support Spielberg for now but we'll see how he does in the debate
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Jar-Jar has been kept in cry-genetic statis... He is waken up from his sleep by one of the Emperor's clones. The Emperor knows that to fight the new Jedi order that Luke has built, he must hit them with the worst force that nature has ever created.. The Jar-Jar... He will name him Darth Jar and unleash him into the the Jedi camp. Meanwhile Han and Leia are trying to get Chewbacca to drop his kindergarden rates down as the 7th little Solo is on the way but Chewie won't back down since he must not only pay C3-P0 and R2-D2's hourly wages but also their upgrades, maintenance fees, and wifi connections not considering the constant iOS changes put out every year that are never properly tested and hit issues. So R2 get bugs all the time.. Luke is still taking meds to keep his sanity because of all the visions of ghosts that keep following him... All is good in the Star Wars Universe..
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I don't know about you guys but I'd rag January Jones' bears senseless
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While I'm cautiously excited about new Star Wars flicks (let's face it, they can't be any worse than the prequels), I'm more interested in who might direct these. Here are my thoughts: POSSIBLE Bird, Brad--Pixar/Disney-Live Action, Special effects Cuaron, Alfonso--Does Sequels w/Special Effects (Harry Potter), Sci-Fi DelToro--Special Effects, Cheap, Sci-Fi Howard, Ron--Relationship with Lucas Johnston, Joe--Relationship with Lucas, expressed past desire-Boba Fett standalone Jones, Duncan--Special Effects, Cheap, Sci-Fi Reeves, Matt--Special Effects, Cheap, Sci-Fi Spielberg, Stephen--Relationship with Lucas, relationship with Disney, expressed past desire Stanton, Andrew--Pixar/Disney-Live Action, Special effects Vaughn, Matthew--Front Runner? Special Effects, Cheap Verbinski, Gore--Relationship with Disney, Special Effects Whedon, Joss--Relationship with Disney, Special Effects, fan Yates, David--Sequels w/Special Effects (Harry Potter), Sci-Fi NO: Abrams, JJ--Star Trek Aronofsky, Darren--Why? Would he even be intersted? Cameron--Avatar forever. Friends with Lucas? Fincher--Too Dark. Friends with Lucas/Disney? Jackson--Hobbit shit. Nolan, Christopher--Why? Would he even be intersted? POSSIBLE/COOL/MAYBE Branagh, Kenneth--Thor Darabont, Frank--Relationship with Lucas fucked after Indy IV?? Doctor, Peter--Pixar, blah blah Lasseter, John--Pixar, blah blah Proyas, Alexander--Has only made one good movie Scorcese, Martin--Hugo, Probably no desire. Weir, Peter --Think of Kershner or Marquand's pedigree-GREAT with actors, killed on Master and Commander (SPX) Zemeckis, Robert--Could do it. Would he want to?
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He's completely lost it.
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Ben Affleck. No, I'm not kidding. He's a very good director who knows how to put drama and action on the big screen. Rupert Wyatt, the director of Planet of the Apes: Prevolution would also be an interesting choice. But Brad Bird? Nope. del Toro? Not if we don't want to wait for another 10 years for aliens with eyes for toenails and three mouths on their back. Cuaron... Interesting. Could work. But please no Joe Johnston, his Cap America was mediocre.
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Nov. 6, 2012, 9:15 a.m. CST
I can't believe some people thought my joke about Tim Burton was serious. I even included a silly emoticon!
by hank henshaw
Hell, I hate Tim Burton movies except for Ed Wood, Edward Scissorhands and, maybe, Beetlejuice.
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Nov. 6, 2012, 9:19 a.m. CST
Give me a break. Tweens and teens, maybe, but not
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
elementary school age kids.
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Nov. 6, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST
The Wachowski create cartoonish characters without
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
much development, so maybe SW is up their alley. Vaughn's characters are always soulless (unless he gets a superb actor like Fassbender).
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Nov. 6, 2012, 9:33 a.m. CST
Let's keep it real. Irvin Kershner had done The Eyes of Laura Mars, a cheesy potboiler that was instantly dated. Marquand had done a WW2 thriller with Sutherland, Eye of the Needle. Solid craftsmen, not big names.
by reflecto
If you're looking at this trend, you're looking at Brad Bird, Rupert Wyatt, Joe Johnston, Matt Reeves or Drew Goddard, MAYBE Kenneth Branagh to class up the joint. Any number of people from the Disney/Marvel stable. Matthew Vaughn is a classier, flashier guy than many of them, with a definite sensibility, but he is also still a craftsman versus an auteur. He gets jobs done. You're not looking at big auteur names who overpower the property and monolithic franchise. Nobodies like Wyatt came out of nowhere to take on what was seen as a laughable assignment - a Planet of the Apes prequel starring James fucking Franco - and made it a sleeper hit with an amazing, unconventional narrative arc for an animal and great motion capture by Andy Serkis that I am proud to have on my shelf. These are the kind of men who will take Eps 7-9. Craftsmen waiting to show us their skills. Though I wouldn't mind seeing the Scorsese of Hugo take on SW, either. Or Spielberg.
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Ron Howard is doing everything but coming out and saying it's already his.
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As long as Vaughn only directs episode seven and they get different directors for eight and nine, I'm ok with it. Hopefully the movies won't deal with as much political bullshit that 1-3 covered. We want Jedis, Siths, lighsaber fights and action. Throw in some cool characters and a solid story and I'll be excited to see these movies.
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Nov. 6, 2012, 10:29 a.m. CST
Considering the ages of the leads from the original series...
by Con Shonnery
It's got be directed by Sly Stallone! Star Wars: Episode VII The Jedi Expendables
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Nov. 6, 2012, 10:40 a.m. CST
Peter Jackson is the only one I'd trust to do a SW movie as good as the New Hope & Empire.
by BrannigansLaw
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Nov. 6, 2012, 10:53 a.m. CST
Peter Jackson will make the Halo movie in 2015 and it will piss over the start wars movie like the Matrix did to the phantom menace....
by cameron
Expect Mass Effect movie sooner rather than later with either Snyder (if man of steel does well) or Matt Reeves directing. Best guess is late 2014 for ME to tie into the gen gen consoles ME4 coming out mid 2014 and Halo 5 game coming early 2015.
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Nov. 6, 2012, 11:09 a.m. CST
I think the sequel should be called Star Wars Episode VIII: Jedi Harder with Hulk Hogan as the baddie
by Chaffro
Yeeesss...your sister, brother.
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So a hundred endings, alot of walking and crying jedi? I kid...sort of.
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Nov. 6, 2012, 11:44 a.m. CST
KASDAN/CUARON/DARABONT disney, those are your only options.
by The_Ghost_of_Marcus_Brody
or just hire me. fuck it. I'll do it for cheap yo
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Nov. 6, 2012, 12:17 p.m. CST
So long as the script's tighter than diamond anus, there'll be no problems directing this, but if the writing is of promethius standard, fans better be prepared to get FUCKED!!
by AllThosePowers
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I mean Children of Men was awesome but thats one movie. I get that you cant judge a guy on Harry Potter because harry potter sucks no matter what, but come on not saying itd be bad just surprised everybodys suckin his dick
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After his fantastic X-Men movie I would love to see him directing a new Star Wars film. But to be honest... everyone is better than the late George Lucas. The new trilogy is written so bad it nearly destroyed everything Star Wars was about. I hope they will bring it back to the roots with new films and that the new ones will inspire a new Generation like the old ones did.
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But I still believe Lucas will have his mitts all over these movies until he is cold in the ground. If nepotism didn't help Katie Lucas get those plum writing assignments on Clone Wars, I don't know what else did; she may not be a genetic decendant(I forget whether or not she's adopted) but she sure has the deus ex machina down pat.
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Nov. 6, 2012, 1:01 p.m. CST
Obi-Wan, the Disney conf calls made it very clear George is stepping back. They have his treatment and ideas, which I think is smart, but they have their own writer/director.
by reflecto
George is a brilliant idea man. His ideas - the names, the devilishly simplistic plots and planets and creations - are often genius. It's execution that fouls him up. In theory, I loved his idea of having the prequels be more somber films focusing on more politics and the fall of the Republic. But the way they were done is where he fell horribly short.
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Nov. 6, 2012, 1:54 p.m. CST
Really? Nobody else is behind Mel Gibson? Fine, how 'bout Brad Anderson?
by 5_day_forecast
Don't know what's wrong with this board. However, I like the calls of Curaron, Del Toro, Bird, and even Rian Johnson. Affleck is interesting. Oh yeah - Brad Anderson. Dude's the most underrated director in the business.
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He gets anal on Threepio.
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Nov. 6, 2012, 2:26 p.m. CST
Forget SW - Cameron just said the next Avatar is a prequel - we follow the lives of the Sully twins
by Vulcan_CSC_Rep
Doesn't sound like much CGI or 3D will be needed for this one!
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Search your feelings... :D
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Nov. 6, 2012, 2:51 p.m. CST
Don't you think it's obvious? Kathleen Kennedy is in charge. Spielberg has not said a word about Lucas selling to Disney. Probably waiting until after Lincoln opening week for the announcement.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 6, 2012, 3:14 p.m. CST
I'd seriously take Stallone as director over anyone being named (b'sides Spielberg).
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 6, 2012, 3:15 p.m. CST
How did I miss this... CRONENBERG! HE USES EMPIRE STRIKES BACK DIRECTOR OF PHOTOGRAPHY.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 6, 2012, 3:21 p.m. CST
Why would I agree that Vaughn is a better director than Lucas?
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Nov. 6, 2012, 3:23 p.m. CST
Peter Suschitzky is busy as ever. The best DP of Star Wars. What kind of production wouldn't throw money at that?
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
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Gad, you'd think Layer Cake was some kind of instant AFI 100 classic the way people go on about. I remember all of 30 seconds of that flick, couldn't get through Kick Ass, and thought First Class was boring-as-f*ck made-for-TV trash. Not the worst director in the book, but far from having proven himself. Hell, I'd rather have Guy Ritchie direct, by a long shot. <BR> Also, I am not at all keen on seeing Sr. Spielbergo, Inc. "do" Star Wars with all his Oscar-bait, war porn, plot-holes, treacle and gore. I would so much rather see someone fresh and less Looney Tunes-inspired when it comes to robots and action scenes. <BR> I do like the idea of any one of these folks giving it a spin: Alfonso Cuarón, Joss Whedon, David Fincher, Timur Bekmambetov, Neill Blomkamp, Ridley Scott, Gore Verbinski, Brad Bird, Andrew Prowse, Brian Henson, Wachowskis... I don't know! <BR> Hell, have Hayao Miyazaki direct or at least write the script and draw the storyboard.
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Nov. 6, 2012, 4:26 p.m. CST
layer cake was ok. kick-ass was ok. xmen was ok. he's an "ok"/"good" director. they should be aiming higher with Star Wars..we need it to be much more than "ok/good".
by FleshMachine
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Nov. 6, 2012, 4:29 p.m. CST
they need to stop screwing around and get Brad bird, Sam Mendes, hell Affleck even! Someone who's films are always (or usually) much better than they could have been.
by FleshMachine
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sound like another Richard Marquand. We need another Irvin Kurshner
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He's directed two films with Lucas, Captain EO and Tucker. He also has a filmography that is very diverse in genres. Not to mention he's an academy award winning director that's made three of the greatest films of all time, The Godfather 1 & 2, and Apocalypse Now. He would never do it thou because he's to into artsy fartsy mode right now and doesn't want to do blockbusters anymore : ( A geek can still dream thou.
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And, of course I'm behind the movement to cast Arnold! Well played, talkback!!
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Nov. 6, 2012, 9:28 p.m. CST
Denzel was the best Jedi since Luke in 'The Book of Eli.' I repeat, The Hughes Brothers.
by ThulsaBoom
Take that Jar-Jar. Take that Lando. Take that not a single person of color cast in the original Star Wars. The Hughes Brothers. And fucking Spike Lee for the Simarillion!
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Nov. 6, 2012, 10:01 p.m. CST
Vaughn does a lot of different things but nothing spectacular
by chien_sale
He has no artistic voice
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Sure, you can take a chance on people who have never quite proven it before, but it comes down to who has done it with world class talent in the past. Who has taken someone else's existing material and elevated it where you have characters people love, but still retain that sense of emotion and drama, while still having blockbuster spectacle with mass appeal? And understanding story arcs that go across several movies. Who has genuinely succeedd at this, with an immensely high batting average? There are very few. You can get some great directors that have been named here - Matthew Vaughn (loved Stardust), Fincher, Spielberg, Del Toro. But they each have their minuses. Spielberg is very hit-and-miss lately...no longer a total quality guarantee; and he's not a writer, so he would rely on David Koepp or some other hack like that. And I do agree with everyone that the choice of writer is imperative. Del Toro has some amazing films, but also some crap and isn't a truly amazing writer. Fincher is great, but may not get the pulpy, mass commercial elements. JJ Abrams is also hit and miss...he relies too much on Kurtzman & Orci, who write a lot of garbage (The Island, Transformers, Cowboys & Aliens). So who are you left with? There are only three choices to my mind. And all three, no surprise, are also fantastic writers. You need a genuine storyteller who originates the dramatic vision and translates it to the screen. 1) Peter Jackson. Lord of the Rings speaks for itself. He filmed the unfilmable and made a massive critical and commercial success of it, the likes of which have only been matched by, well, Star Wars. The man knows how to take someone else's material and elevate it dramatically, thematically, emotionally, while still having amazing action that blows your mind. He knows how to balance massive scale with intimate moments. He understands STORY. 2) Chris Nolan. I really don't understand some of the nerd backlash about "Nolanites" and how he can't direct action sequences, and so on. Bottom line, this guy achieved the same thing as Peter Jackson....he took the source material, had a very specific vision for it, wrote the story, and gave it great dramatic heft & weight. All three films have huge emotion, great story payoffs, incredible action, and clever moments that you didn't see coming. Hell, even PT Anderson says they're unparalleled in terms of what he achieved...people bitch on the net, but they forget what Batman films used to be like. He achieved something that worked as character-driven entertainment. As with Jackson, he understands STORY. 3) Whedon, who won't do it because he's engaged with Marvel. All you need to do is look at Buffy the Vampire Slayer and how it evolved over the seasons....the rich layers of narrative, the mgnificent story arcs that come full circle, the delicious complexity and huge payoffs. It was bold, comforting, terrifying. He was unafri to kill characters if the story demanded it. "The Body" from season 5 remains perhaps the finest - and most affecting - hour of television I have ever seen. And the season 5 finale, and the musical, and the...on and on. Look at Firefly/Serenity; a swashbuckling space pirate epic that had genuine old school thrills & emotion and is better than any Star Wars film since Empire. As with the two previous directors, the man can write - no David Koepp required. He understands narrative, and the layers of storytelling. These gentlemen are the best we have today for what this task specifically demands. To separate the writer completel fromt he director MAY work very well, but it's a greater risk.
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Can anyone imagine what kind of film he'd make with that massive of a budget and ILM at his disposal? I would shit LSD if that happened. I'd much rather him make DUNE as he originally intended or maybe a Metabaron flick or something, but whatever.
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Its only a matter of time.
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There's your trilogy.
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Nov. 7, 2012, 11:45 a.m. CST
Great, so if Vaughn directs we will have another black guy dies first on Star Wars.
by ragermac
Anyone but this guy. Geez
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Nov. 7, 2012, 2:03 p.m. CST
The Hughes Brothers is a BRILLIANT choice.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Dead Presidents was a gorgeous, epic movie. Also, they understand how to make a dark, real film without looking a nerd wearing shoulder pads to make himself look bigger (Vaughn)
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