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Capone says that by plumbing the depths of James Bond's past, SKYFALL gives us an exciting look at things to come!!!

Hey everyone. Capone in Chicago here.

There's a great deal to absorb in Daniel Craig's third outing as Ian Fleming's master MI6 agent James Bond. It's clear that it's important to the actor to give his take on Bond a little emotional and psychological heft without skimping on the death-defying action (which includes another sequence involving heavy construction equipment, as well as a rooftop chase in Turkey that I'm pretty sure are the exact rooftops featuring in TAKEN 2--I half expected Bond to trip over Liam Neeson at one point, and that would have been awesome). As a result, we get more of the Bond back story than any other film in the past 50 years has given us, plus, it doesn't suck and it actually adds some much-welcome depth to the icy spy with a license to kill.

But even more exciting than seeing where Bond has been is where SKYFALL leaves off. This is in no way a spoiler, but by the end of this movie, director Sam Mendes (who worked with Craig before on ROAD TO PERDITION) has fully set up the Bond we know and love--he's found his sense of humor, he's loaded with gadgets (courtesy of a new Q, played as a mildly cocky, young computer whiz and inventor by CLOUD ATLAS' Ben Whishaw), he's playfully inappropriate with the ladies (although it's clear love is likely out of the question for a while, after the events of CASINO ROYALE and QUANTUM OF SOLACE), he's driving a classic Aston-Martin with gun turrets in the headlights, he seems to understand his role in Her Majesty's government, and I feel more confident than ever that the next Bond chapter will be the most unfiltered fun we've seen yet from Craig. And that's no small task considering how much of a full-tilt blast SKYFALL is at times.

Clearly, some time has passed in the career of 007 since QUANTUM OF SOLACE, to the point where he and his ways are already considered the stuff of dinosaurs in the eyes of British bureaucrats, including Gareth Mallory (Ralph Fiennes), a government intelligence lackey who is clearly angling to oust M (Judi Dench, as vital and perfect in this role as ever) and take her job. But before we even get to that part in the story, James Bond must be killed by one of his own--not on purpose, of course, but not exactly by accident either. At the conclusion of a rather harrowing chase that ends up with Bond and his target on top of a train (if you've seen the trailer, you've know the scene), M orders Bond's partner, Eve (Naomie Harris), to attempt to shoot their target. She misses and sends Bond tumbling to his supposed death. But even the Grim Reaper can be moved by a stunning Adele theme song, apparently.

Naturally Bond isn't dead, but he comes back pissed off, slightly addicted to booze and pain pills (bullets do hurt), but still willing to work since the target got away with data revealing the identities of every undercover agent MI6 has working in the field. If leaked, the information could mean the death of dozens of agents. But what they don't suspect is that as M is returning from a meeting, she lays witness to the bombing of MI6 headquarters. I'd have to imagine in the real world that MI6 has all of its data backed up in several locations and back-up offices in case the main one is somehow disabled. But I can't imagine one of those back-ups is in the place that M and the rest of her team retreat to after the bombing. Cinematically, it's a great choice (that I won't ruin), but the movie's otherwise surprisingly tight grip on reality is strained with this choice.

Again, not really a spoiler to mention that a character named Silva (Javier Bardem, with yet another winning bad-guy hairstyle) is the culprit behind the stealing of the agents' names, the bombing, and one or two other tricks you don't know about yet. Bardem eats this role alive, and while you may think his "Mommy, has been very bad" line in the trailers feels silly and camp, it's actually just a precursor to some wicked and ugly behavior. Still, when Bond and Silva first meet, it results in one of the most amusing flirtation/seduction scenes you're ever likely to see in a James Bond movie. The moment is all the more odd when you consider that with Silva comes the stunning Bérénice Marlohe playing the more prototypical "Bond girl," Sévérine, who requests Bond's help in escaping Silva's nasty grip.

But what SKYFALL boils down to is the relationship between M, Bond and Silva. Silva has his sights set on killing M in a grand fashion; more than ever before Bond acknowledges the mother role that M fulfills in his life. He's protective of her for reasons he may not even be aware of, and it becomes a wonderful centerpiece of this film. The cast is nicely rounded out by a figure of Bond's past played by Albert Finney; I'll say no more about him, but his very obvious crush on M makes complete and utter sense in the context of this particular story.

With SKYFALL, Bond has completed his journey to maturity, controlled emotions, focus on the job and finding a way to have a sophisticated brand of fun while staying alert and aware. Like I said, by the end of this film, we are left with Bond 1.0 but one living in the modern world. Screenwriters Neal Purvis, Robert Wade, and John Logan (the man who just signed to write the next two Bond/Craig installments) have done a magnificent job plumbing the depths of Bond's psychological wiring without forgetting to keep things exciting.

Combining that with Roger Deakins award-worthy cinematography makes the proceedings look as good as any Bond movie ever. When all is said and done, SKYFALL is among the best Bond films ever made, and certainly the finest of the Craig movies to date. This one, quite literally, has it all, including the damn-near 2.5-hour running time to make it all fit.

-- Steve Prokopy
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  • Nov. 5, 2012, 10:19 a.m. CST


    by NiteManhattan

    Sorry. Never had it before. Psyched to see Skyfall.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 10:21 a.m. CST

    craig's bond

    by longloaddropper

    glad to hear its finally all coming together for the new blonde bond. Cant wait to see this friday night!

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Excellent review. Spot on!

    by huskerdu2

    Mendes did a great job and Bond is genuinely back with a bang. Roll on 2014!

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Overrated, not enough of a Bond film, limp action, crappy climax

    by Larry_Sanders

    Just wait until all the release noise and hype dies down, and then people will get honest about the movie.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 10:46 a.m. CST

    I agree with papakin, the rejigging of the gunbarrel made sense for Casino Royale...


    But I'm not a fan with the current trend of putting it at the end of the movie, part of the thrill of a Bond movie was how they'd always start with the famous gunbarrel sequence.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Javier Bardem delivers oscar worthy performance

    by TinDrummer

    The movie has an incredible buildup to a climax that can only be described as an orgasm! It's true.

  • That logic does not compute.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Just like Connery...3rd film gets the ball rolling!

    by Sequitur

    They are following that blueprint perfectly.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Best Bond film in 30 years... but enough with the product placement

    by Julian Gratton

    I thought this review was excellent but missed out the one thing that ruined it for me which was the shockingly obvious product placement - Omega watch on Bond's wrist in the opening scene, two ridiculous plugs for Heneiken - to name just two! Can we just sack them off as they are eye-rolling bad and not subtle at all. Other than that - great movie - one of the ten best of the year.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Bond is Back!!!

    by dieanotherday

    can't wait for this masterpiece from Mendes! hope he comes back for 24 & 25!

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Bond does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    SPOILERS: I would temper Capone's enthusiasm a little, and for me SKYFALL falls in as better than QUANTUM but weaker than CASINO ROYALE. I'd give it four stars out of five. Bond has always been one of those films that you just go along for the ride and forgive odd plot moments and ott characters. But in this rather more realistic interpretation there are some wtf moments that dont quite sit right. Why does Bond watch an assassin kill his target with a sniper rifle rather than stopping the hit? And halfway through a frantic chase Silva attempts to kill Bond with a subway train - who the fuck set those explosives!? And there's also the fact that for all Silvas meticulous planning and strategizing the denoument of his plan to kill M is simply to storm into a secure location all guns blazing on what is tantamount to a suicide run (and why do Silva's henchmen choose to use handguns rather than assault rifles and grenades for this attack?!). But stuff like that you can let pass because its Bond and like Capone says the fan service that SKYFALL provides in its final moments makes you wish the next Bond movie was already here. Bring it on!

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Capone sucks horribly, this idiot raved over Paranormal Craptivity

    by golden tribw

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Isn't this Craig's last Bond movie?

    by Cobb05

    I thought he wasn't coming back for another.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Ah Mr. Bond, we've been expecting you.....

    by Ciderman

    At long last, Bond has returned and in more ways than one! Yes, this is a different film to the previous two, but then I always felt they were two halves of a single story. Now, we see possibly the best interpretation of Bond ever. Rather than compare Casino Royal to Bonds of old and try to compare Craig to Connery, perhaps we would do better to try to imagine Connery taking on Casino Royal, as the story was told not long ago. I don't think he would have been capable of it at all. On the other hand, here in Skyfall, we see that Daniel Craig can not only do the Casino Royal stuff, the fast, mean, tough Bond of the novels, but he can also take on the classical tropes of the Bond cinematic universe and make them his own. A great movie, not a second of it's runtime wasted and it's only going to get better with time, and as people get the chance to watch it again at different times in their lives, absorbing the various aspects, a bit like appreciating a good whiskey. Roll on the next two installments, that are very much going to be a two part story, allowing for the first downbeat ending since "On Her Majestys Secret Service" before the second chapter brings us back triumphant, shaken but not stirred perhaps! Could the next Bond film be it's Empire Strikes Back?

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 11:23 a.m. CST

    I didn't mind anyhting but Javier Bardem's back-story...

    by James Robinson

    ... it was a convoluted mess, both terribly 'convenient' and unbelievably convoluted. Not only was it jarring, but the simple truth is it didn't make any sense. I enjoyed the film for the most part, just think they could have done a better job with Bardem's motivations.. what we got was just plain stupid.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Re: gun barrel

    by Dromosus

    Mendes said that he tried putting it at the beginning but it didn't work as the following shot showed bond walking down a corridor whole pointing a gun. He felt it was ridiculous and repetitive. I'll give him a slight pass for that, but would rather have seen the opening shot removed instead if that was the case. The gun barrel is such an important, transformative moment. It marks the point where we enter the world of Bond and leave our incredulity aside. No director should see it as optional. As for Skyfall, I enjoyed it. I look forward to seeing how I feel about it during repeat viewings. It's more From Russia With Love than You Only Live Twice. It's bound to disappoint some Bond fans but the series has been through so many phases and themes that expectations will always vary from Bond anorak to the next.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 11:26 a.m. CST

    I kept expecting Scott Evil to give Silva a gun to shoot Bond!

    by Ciderman

    Silva did indulge in a certain amount of speech making, instead of just reaching for a gun and shooting Bond! Also odd was the rather quiet tube train crash, with surprisingly little, if not no, screaming of any kind. The sheer amount of planning to set it all up yet the suicide run into the court was strange too, the CCTV must have been on the blink. I mean, an IED of Sarin would have done the job much faster, one would of thought.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Great review for a great film

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    I loved this, especially the ending. And yup, Bond Will Return most definately after you see the end of the film. I just hope they pull all the stops out and get next Bond into production sharpish. I've never been more excited for a new Bond film than after this one.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Saw this the other night...

    by Stale Elvis

    ...and it's good but not great - and that will be the true verdict once the hype has died down.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Love Silva coming on to Bond

    by Laserhead

    He's feeling up Daniel Craig and suggests their interrogation is about to take a solidly homosexual turn, and Craig says, "What makes you think it's my first time?"

  • You know where the bad guy's going to be. Call in the fucking SAS.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 11:31 a.m. CST

    THIS is his Empire Strikes Back ...

    by Anthony Torchia

    the next one will be what Return of the Jedi should have been. Great review, great film, (almost) everyone loves it, can't wait!

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 11:31 a.m. CST


    by loafroaster

    He's signed on for at least two more.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Ben Whishaw was apparently one of the best Hamlets ever

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    such a great actor, but seems to have lost his 'leading man' shot after Perfume. Better for us, though.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Skyfall is easily top 5 bond material.

    by niven

    It's kinda hypocritical to see fanboys go on and on about the importance of source material only to ignore it when it suits them, aka because people are to dull to read the fleming novels so they like to pretend the early EON films are the authority to the character. If it's not like flemings character, then it's a loose adaptation...sorry thems the rules you can't have it both ways. If this isn't bond (and im sure it's closer to what fleming did) then i don't really give a shit about bond, cus it's bond at his most brutal, cold, violent and fallible, similar to casino royale, but at least with this one they try to keep it in tone with the early connery films. This whole moore/brosnan = real bond bullshit needs to stop, it's unbelieveably uneducated, it's an idea of bond, it's a preference, but it's certainly not the prime idea of it.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Yeah, the ending

    by Ciderman

    Why the frak didn't the bloody Royal Marines not pop out of foxholes in the dark? Or could Bond have tooled up before heading for Scotland? Did he and M have time for a deepfried Mars bard before the attack? Was there time for sightseeing? Is Skyfall the reason for the Connery Bond's Scots accent?

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 11:40 a.m. CST

    its good but lacks the brutality and sting of casino ...

    by JackGraham

    The following is how i would place every bond film from worse to best .... I'm at work and bored if your wondering. 23.Die another day 22. A view to a kill 21. The man with the golden gun 20. Diamonds are forever 19. The world is not enough 18. Quantum of solace 17. Tommorow never dies 16. Moonraker 15. Octopussy 14. The living daylights 13. You only live twice 12. Thunderball 11. Goldeneye 10. Licence to kill 9. For your eyes only 8. Live and let die 7. Skyfall 6. The spy who loved me 5. Goldfinger 4. Casino royale 3. On her majestys secret service 2. From Russia with love 1. Dr no Now if ull excuse me, I have to go watch the unnoficial bond film never say never again on my works computer to remind myself just how dated and bad it is and to stare at Mr connerys embarrisingly bad hairpiece and stomach paunch, and kim basingers body of course.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Not sure if "it doesn't suck" is a real compliment or not.

    by jawsfan

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 11:52 a.m. CST

    * I left out the word "script" in the second sentence above.

    by jawsfan

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 11:57 a.m. CST

    he's loaded with gadgets????

    by Windowlicker74

    he got a pistol and a radio. Not exactly christmas. but at the end of the movie (the retarted Seagal-esque shootout in the middle of nowhere with no weapons or's like Bond WANTED M to get shot) Bond transformed into MCGyver and started buildihng homemade bombs out of nothing. that was some funny shit! Luckiky for the movie Bardem's military attack helicopter wasn't carrying any missiles..

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 12:01 p.m. CST

    I still think Casino Royale is better.

    by estacado1

    Skyfall is very different from any other Bond film. The way they set up Bond's "death" as if to to convince the viewer that Bond could really die was a mistake. The viewer knows there's no way he's going to die that early into the movie. And they killed Silva off was a mistake too. He could've been a good recurring villain. This movie also blows the theory that "James Bond" is a code name filled by different agents.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 12:12 p.m. CST

    There was an explanation for the solo-Bond mission in the end

    by David Cloverfield

    SPOILERS of course. "Silva uses all systems and protocols perfectly against them. Too many people died, in the crossfire, so M and Bond will do this themselves, low-tech, far away. If they die, so they die, at least no more people suffer." It's stupid, but it's the movie's explanation for the lack of marines. Also: I would imagine Bond did not count on the fucking ONSLAUGHT that arrived at his doorstep. I also love, LOVE that Silva kinda won. Yeah, he died, but that's what he wanted after he killed M. M died too. So all Bond managed to do, is to make the whole affair a lot bloodier than it needed to be.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 12:32 p.m. CST

    good but not great just about sums it up

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Loved it (small spoilers).

    by loafroaster

    The cinematography in the finale was fucking superb, and it had a sense of fun the other Craig Bournes...sorry Bonds lacked, while keeping it from getting too silly. When the John Barry guitar kicked in as they drove to Scotland, I smiled like a loon. And Silva was a superb villain, the effeminate mannerisms slight homoeroticism was a great touch.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 12:42 p.m. CST


    by chinofjim

    I saw the film today and it is so gob smackingly good that it is hard to believe that it exists in the same franchise as dogshite like Die Another Day Major spoilers in my thoughts below: I thought Casino Royale was interesting because for the first time I could recall, they were doing thematically interesting things in a Bond film. The exploration of violence (on those who do it, those who witness it and those who suffer it) wasn't very deep but it was interesting and woven into a film with intelligent characterizations. Skyfall takes this thematic depth even further with its obsession with death and resurrection. Bond and Silva are both left to die by M, but whereas Bond is able to resurrect himself (he says at one point in the film to Silva that his hobby is resurrection), Silva is a walking corpse. The cyanide pill he took which ate his insides quite literally left him 'dead inside, and when he removes his false teeth thing he looks like a zombie. It is no coincidence that the occasion of his betrayal by M was the handover of Hong Kong to the Chinese. This was the death of Empire for Britain. At the end of the film we have the ultimate resurrection of all, as the classic Bond Film Setup is reborn (Bond walks into an office, flirts with Moneypennie and then goes into male M's wood panel office to get down to business). The film looks stunning and has really interesting ideas running through the visuals. In particular, the 4 big action scenes seem to riff on different ways of using and framing light We have the opening in Istanbul, all bright sunlight. Then we have the fight in Shanghai, with the mind boggling use of neon and silhouette. Then we have the chase through London, which is grey and drab. And finally the shootout at Skyfall with the orange bloom of explosions and gunfire on the Scottish night. A brilliant film

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 1:03 p.m. CST


    by thxMike

    Yay! Moneypenny!

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 1:08 p.m. CST


    by chinofjim

    Bond's death wasn't a mistake. You can meh on it plotwise but it was essential in setting up the theme of the movie: death/ressurection

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Saw it last friday

    by Chanoc

    Been out in México since thursday so I got to see it on friday. I really enjoyed this movie. I´ve seen all 23 bond films and this one is in my top 3. A little bit Home Alonish in the last part, but a very, very good 007 movie.

  • ...and I didn't get that feeling from 'Question of Sport'.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Fucking lazy 'Home Alone' references?

    by dude_gimme_tabs

    Call yourselves movie fans, with that Home Alone shit? I missed the part where Culkin decapitates an intruder with a gas canister!<p> Surely you mean Straw Dogs or Assault On Precinct 13?<p> But no, you pick Home Alone?<p> It's as good as Casino Royale. It's fucking epic!

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 1:57 p.m. CST

    skyfall is not epic, its not spartacus.

    by JackGraham

    It is good though.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 2:19 p.m. CST

    More Spoilers - Home alone ending discussion

    by chinofjim

    I thought the ending was brilliant. It was essentially a Bond Film Finale role reversal joke. No coincidence that Bond and Silva are both blond in this film. Silva is Bond, attacking the baddies secret lair, with his mini army in tow. Bond meanwhile is the villain (probably closer to say that M is the villain and Bond is the henchman). Skyfall is the baddies secret lair, where Bond and M are holed up. Of course, it self destructs at the end. Of course the villains have a secret tunnel escape route. It is essentially You Only Live Twice/On Her Majesties Secret Service/Spy Who Loved me in reverse

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 3:08 p.m. CST


    by huskerdu2

    You nailed it sonny. This a VERY smart film - a deconstruction, a celebration and a renewal of all that's made Bond word on screen in the last 50 years. It looks great, performances are terrific and the script is sharp. It's also a real throwback to the series' Hitchcock roots. Definite nods to North By Northwest (Bond's suit at the opening), The 39 Steps and even a hint of The Man Who Knew Too Much.

  • SPOILERS The moneypenny reveal was more or less the robin reveal. Bonds origin, the manor, his Alfred, the manor burning down, the psychotic bad guy, who then dresses up like a cop to assassinate a public figure and then escape, the bad guy who lets himself get caught because he needs to be caught for his plan to work. One of the crates in the manor had even the initials B.W. On the side. Mendes is a fan, no doubt.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 3:25 p.m. CST


    by chinofjim

    I was thinking of 39 steps during the finale. I guess not many iconic action films shoot their load in the Scottish Highlands. Apparently Hitchcock was offered one of the early Bond films, From Russia With Love I think. He turned it down saying he had already made a Bond film. Of course there is one huge difference between Bond films and their Hitchcock forebears. Bond is a badass who does this stuff for a job. He has a license which let's him to to casinos and be the guy we would all want to be ( It's a cliche to say it but, you know, every man wants to be Bond and every woman wants to bed him.) Even Craig, with the more nuanced characterization, is utter Badass. Hitchcock's heroes on the other hand are every-men who get caught up in nightmarish situations. If Bond is wish fulfillment then Hannay/Thornhill etc are caught up in our worst fears. Of course, they happen to be sexy attractive charismatic guys, because Hitchcock wants to entertain us, but Thornhill is an advertising man not a super spy. So it does make me wonder how Hitchcock would have approached the Bond archetype.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 3:34 p.m. CST


    by chinofjim

    that's a fair comment. I was also reminded of Dark Knight when you had Q looking at his map of London - it bought to mind Lucius with his mobile phone rigged Gotham City tracking device. As you say, full circle, because Nolan has always acknowledged the significance of Bond films for his work. To such an extent that he all but recreates On Her Majesties Secret Service in Inception

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 5:18 p.m. CST

    boring rubbish.

    by JAMF

    it really is. can't wait for the world's critics to get a hold of it. it's at quantum of solace level.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 5:24 p.m. CST

    oh yeah to elaborate... with some spoilers?

    by JAMF

    the dark knight influences are so obvious... the music in parts sounds like the zimmer batman film is gonna kick in, it's so weird... silva is an obvious rip-off of the joker, he even gets captured mid-film and engineers his escape. the black girl is rubbish. everyone says "marm" instead of "mam" which pissed me off no end. there's almost no action in it at all, which i wouldn't mind, but the talky bits are the cliched tripe consisting of "bloody this" and "bloody that" coz that's ow us brits speak guvnor! oh yeah a character who is a sex slave gets fucked by bond when i was expecting him to put his arms arond her and kiss her fingers like in casino royale. nope, he fucks her. then makes a flippant remark when she dies by the villains hand?? what. a. twat. skyfall = massive fucking yaaawwwwnnn.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 5:28 p.m. CST

    People always say Nolan recreated OHMSS in Inception...

    by joel007

    ...but I don't see it. I mean there's a snow fortress that resembles Piz Gloria from OHMSS a bit. an assault on it. I'd call it homage to the penultimate action sequence but that's it. But hey, if it makes people sound like they actually know something about James Bond movies...

  • ... you don't get to discover this and love it and hug it and squeeze it when no one else does and let it be your own little precious secret like attack the block or Scott pilgrim?... Boo hoo!....

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 5:45 p.m. CST


    by peter skellen

    God Daniel Craig is soooooooooo boring. No wonder all of his non-Bond films bomb. Bond sells whoever is playing him. Predictable review by the way. This site is pretty crappy when it comes to discussing James Bond.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 5:57 p.m. CST

    This movie would not have ben made without Heneiken

    by BigTuna

    They paid 40 million to be Bond's new "drink" for a few films. Bond producers needed that money to get it made. No more "Shaken, not Stirred".

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Wait, so Craig and Bardem kiss or something?

    by 3D-Man

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 6:13 p.m. CST

    joel007 recreating OHMSS

    by chinofjim

    You know when people say that Nolan recreated OHMSS that they don't mean it literally, and that they quite obviously mean he pays homage to a substantial part of that film. But you pretend to not know that so that you can act like the superior smug internet twod. Its that kind of thing makes the internet so great

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 6:20 p.m. CST

    jamf sex slave

    by chinofjim

    He doesn't treat her in the same tender way as he treated Vesper because he isn't the same Bond anymore (partly because of what happened with Vesper). He is now a bit more of the misogynist animal that we associate with old Bond movies The scene when she is killed is very uncomfortable to watch, but I think you are reading too much into the flippant remark he makes. He isn't being flippant about her death. He is just larging it in front of the villains to make them think he doesn't care

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 6:44 p.m. CST

    This film is extraordinarily bad. Just awful.

    by I Hope You Die

    It's not a Bond film. It plays out like they got a script for a generic spy thriller and made the main character Bond. It'd be a mediocre script without Bond attached to it. The character Judi Dench is playing has few redeeming qualities. This causes problems for Bond's character. Apparently the idea here is that M and Bond have a mother-son relationship because Bond is an orphan. Any sense of respect between Bond and M that might have been implied in the past is completely lost. Instead, Bond's loyalty to M is portrayed as unconditional. This makes Bond nothing but a hired thug. There's no real threat in the movie, Silva is only targeting M and some of her agents. So the whole movie has an insular quality. It's essentially about a woman who manages killers getting her comeuppance while being cowardly, stubborn and incompetent. It's just really bad.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah, it does totally rip off Nolan's Batman.

    by I Hope You Die

    In the most completely un-Bond-ish way possible. Bardem is the Joker, Skyfall is Wayne Manor, blah blah blah. So, so bad. It's not even funny. Bardem even dresses up in costume and walks funny. If you sat down to write a movie that would completely ruin the Bond franchise while simultaneously being a 2 hour 30 minute handjob for nerds with no taste, you would write this. This is what's ruining movies. There are people who think Bond doing a homage to Nolan's Batman is a GOOD thing. Think about that. Think about how utterly asinine that is. Nerds have ruined cinema.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Well I quite enjoyed it.


    To each their own.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 7:12 p.m. CST, your pretty much wrong

    by FreeBeer

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 7:18 p.m. CST


    by I Hope You Die

    I don't recall Connery setting booby traps with Hagrid and an old lady in his parent's house.

  • ...Villain was very classic Bond. Humor was very classic Bond. The villain has an island, very classic Bond. The tone of the film was very classic Bond. "But I don't remember Connery's Bond setting booby traps?" So? I said it was more like Connery Bond than Bond has been in years, I didn't say t was a scene for scene remake of a Connery Bond film. Jesus.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 7:53 p.m. CST

    the best Craig/Bond film? hmmm...

    by Detached

    better than Casino Royale? that's a very high standard. CR is a genuinely great film.

  • And I say prequel in the metaphorical sense. The last half of Skyfall made me ecstatic. And I wasn't expecting that. I had no idea they were going to delve into Bonds past. Not only that, but stay TRUE to the books and character while doing it. I had no idea the weight or themes the movie would bring. I've watched the Connery Bonds so many times since I was a child. And the end of Skyfall was bliss. Casino Royal & Skyfall, thanks for bringing it all back. And fuck Quantum Of Solace. What a bad dream that was...

  • The finger print gun scenario is not how they bad guy gets killed. It's nothing gimmicky like that. They're not even standing on the edge of a cliff or anything. No ticking bombs, etc. It's very grounded and very well done.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 8:23 p.m. CST

    I don't want to give too much away but no, the "finger print gun" isn't what kills Silva.


    I thought the scene where it comes in handy was pretty good though.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 8:48 p.m. CST

    You were expecting an exploding pen?


    They don't do that anymore.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 9:30 p.m. CST

    Finest of the Craig movies? Bullshit

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    CR was superior to Skyfall in every way. Even some individual scenes in QoS were better. Don't believe the hype.

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 12:35 a.m. CST

    The ultimate conquest in this Bond film isn't pussy anymore?

    by btc909

  • What is this blasphemy! Don't get me wrong...I love Craig, and he is my second favorite Bond. But Connery is still the best...and, IMHO, will forever remain the quintessential Bond. I am not sure exactly what aspect of Connery's characterization of Bond would not work in "Casino Royale". Connery's Bond could be as ruthless as they come. The "that's a Smith & Wesson...and you've had your six" moment in "Dr No." is a perfect example of Connery's Bond being coldly efficient killer. Great scene, by the way, complete with a line delivery that is pure, suave bad ass.

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 1:54 a.m. CST

    by i hope you die

    by allouttabubblegum

    ohhhhhh its so clever! its a deconstruction of Bond films dont you see?

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 1:57 a.m. CST

    by i hope you die

    by allouttabubblegum

    Agree with you 100% man. I went to see a Bond film. I got a Uni film student character study. A deconstruction of Bond films. It is not Bond. Its like im in JC's They live! Only a few of us wear the shades and see the truth.

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 1:59 a.m. CST

    M-The incompetent and her woeful children

    by allouttabubblegum

    The original screenplay title for Skyfall.

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 2:08 a.m. CST

    @i hope you die Bond setting Booby traps

    by chinofjim

    you clearly don't understand what that scene was all about. It was PURE Bond. It was a deconstructive role reversal scene. M as villain in her secret booby trapped lair which self destructs, complete with secret escape tunnels. Bond was her thuggish henchman Silva was Bond, attacking the villiains lair at the films finale, with his mini army in tow. If you say that is is un-Bond like then you either don't know anything about Bond or are dumb

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 2:12 a.m. CST

    better than Casino Royale?

    by chinofjim

    I agree that CR was a top top film but this one betters it. It pays homage to old Bond but in a really intelligent way. Silva is quite possibly the best Bond villain ever. Certainly the only one who has genuinely creeped me out. People have talked about the obvious Nolan influences, but the film also bought to mind the BBC Spy drama series Spooks

  • ...I can only say, "are you pulling my pisser"? This is one of the most reliably successful, recognizable, profitable and durable franchises in entertainment history. 50 years and counting. The money that has been made over the years...well, I don't know how much it is, but at a conservative estimate, let's say its a fucking shitload. Are you seriously telling me that unless Bond waves a watch at the camera while holding a bottle of lager, the film makers can't scrape together the pennies to make their art house flick? Batman, Spider-Man and the rest don't seem to be hindered by this problem and they're relative newcomers when it comes to the big screen. Come on Eon - ditch the embarrassing shilling. That aside - the film is superb.

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 3:26 a.m. CST

    mimirsan wants a Bond film

    by chinofjim

    You got a Bond film. It even has an Aston goddamn Martin that fires bullets. It has Bond being a misogynist pig. It has a monologue-ing baddie. It has secret lairs. It has Bond playing hop scotch on killer lizards. It even has a bit of spywork thrown in, the kind that actually existed before the series turned itself into a stupid joke. What it doesn't have is dumbass cardboard cutout characterizations existing in an infantile universe of shit. If you want that go and watch Die Another Day The thing is, before You Only Live Twice and then the Moore years, the Bond films were more than just self parodying shtick, they were exciting cinema. Thank fuck the Craig era has bought that back. Bond is deconstructed in this film because he has to be before he can be resurrected, born again as the Moneypenny flirting quipster than you so clearly desire.

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 6:55 a.m. CST

    Well said chinofjim

    by Mr_P

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 7:28 a.m. CST

    "i hope you die"....

    by DiamondJoe

    If you sat down to write a movie that would completely ruin the Bond franchise you would write this

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 7:32 a.m. CST

    The one point that doesn't seem to be getting discussed much......

    by DexterMorgan

    is that Bond actually properly fails his mission in this movie - he doesn't save M. Has that ever happened in a Bond movie before? By taking M up to Scotland did he essentially kill her? Surely she would have been safer holed up in some bunker in London or something. LOVED the fight in the skyscraper, artful and exciting. Bond, not Bourne.

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 7:35 a.m. CST


    by DexterMorgan

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 7:51 a.m. CST

    Adele's Song - Stunning ?

    by Dheep

    I've heard the song. Stunning it ain't. Boring and Generic at best. Where do you (and others) get stunning ? Really think about it and listen. Sure you are not just projecting your own hopes ( I want it to be good) onto things? I know they are trying to evoke the "classic" Bond themes but WHAT a LAZY vocal. Geez. There is no shortage of talented people out there -ready and able.

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 8:20 a.m. CST


    by allouttabubblegum

    I remember now...yeah. I remember in classic Bond where the main focus of the film was his relationship with M. I remember the villains motivation being nothing more a lame personal vendetta. I remember classic bond being all hard done by and depressed,drinking and sobbing like a baby. I didnt expect Q to be a moron who needs a good punch. I could go on. I dont go into a bond film expecting the supreme sillyness from the Brosnan and Moore films. I do expect to have a good time watching one though and not be bored to death by the banality of it all.

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Soundtrack was shit too

    by allouttabubblegum

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 8:51 a.m. CST


    by chinofjim

    I remember in classic Bond where the main focus of the film was his relationship with M.

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Where were the fucking coconuts?...(spoilers)

    by eroica

    ... and although it says 007, Skyfall was M's story, pure and simple. The logical sequel to RC that continues the reboot and fleshing out of Bond that made QOS so unsatisfying on multiple levels. Excellent addition to the Bond canon - Mendes and Deakins did an amazing job with what they had to work with. Although a satisfying and emotional conclusion, the premise/plot of the final act definitely underwhelmed - clearly suggesting budget constraints. And does every Craig film have to end with the destruction of some otherwise unremarkable building?

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 8:54 a.m. CST

    dextermorgan (Spolers)

    by chinofjim

    It's not so much that Bond fails, more that the villain succeeds in getting M. The principal point of going to Skyfall wasn't to protect M. It was an attempt to make sure no one else gets caught in the cross fire. On that level they are successful

  • ...I totally loved it. Y'know, I've had enough megalomaniacs in ridiculous hideouts cackling away with their fingers on the button of a superweapon. If you want that, there's 20 other fucking films full of it. This film has style, wit, heart, brilliant cinematography, great performances and a smart script - IN A BOND FILM. Have the people who made this watched some Chris Nolan films? Yes. Is that a bad thing? Absolutely not. If nothing else, it rocks because it has Albert Finney calling James Bond a "jumped up little shit".

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 9:06 a.m. CST


    by chinofjim

    I remember in classic Bond where the main focus of the film was his relationship with M.

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 9:07 a.m. CST


    by chinofjim

    I remember in classic Bond where the main focus of the film was his relationship with M.

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Mimirsan doesn't remember from the Bond movies

    by chinofjim

    Villain with personal vendetta motivation? Alex Trevalyan Bond sobbing like a baby, depressed and drinking He sobs like a baby at the end of OHMSS. That was a proper Bond movie, the potential and legacy of which was utterly screwed over its terrible follow up, Diamonds Are For Ever I guess Mimirsan doesn't actually want any intelligent character development. After all, getting shot by one of your own agents acting on the orders of your boss, suffering long term injury that leads to pain killer dependence might actually effect even someone like Bond. Mimirsan won't be having it though. He must prefer the character development they display in Die Another Day where Bond spends a year being tortured by the N Koreans and then walks out the same smug twod is was when he went in . Moronic Q who needs a punch? John Cleese I will give you that no previous Bond film has spent the time to explore the relationship between Bond and M in any substantial way. However, I would hardly consider that a strength of the Bond movies. You say you don't want the sillyness of Moore and Brosnan but it is quite clear that you do

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 9:25 a.m. CST


    by chinofjim

    They sure have watched Nolan's films, which as you say is no bad thing. Especially when they actually do a better job than Nolan of staging and shooting action sequences. I'm not saying this is better than Nolan's films. You would never really want a Bond movie to have the complex and beguiling architecture of a Nolan film. But in that one respect, framing action sequences, Mendes and co do improve on Nolan's films. It is also a little warmer and humane than Nolan's films

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 11:02 a.m. CST

    chinofjim (SPOILERS)

    by DexterMorgan

    Interesting theory. The wound sustained by M was not personally inflicted by Silva, but by a random piece of rebounded shrapnel, which I found a little bit anticlimatic in the sense that it ended up being the thing that actually killed her (don't get me wrong i LOVED this film). Therefore, I have to respectfully disagree that Silva succeeds in getting M - although his actions lead to her death, Bond's actions also lead to her death. Why was M not put in the tunnel from the start of the Skyfall siege? If Bond's plan was to take her away to prevent collateral damage then he succeeded (if you don't count the Aston and Skyfall itself as collateral), but he was also trying to protect her, which he clearly failed to do. It actually would not have mattered if Silva had blown his and M's brains out. The end result would be exactly the same.

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 12:11 p.m. CST

    not enough of a Bond film

    by AnalFissure

    If you're a spastic mong who needs every "Bondian" moment neon signposting, perhaps!

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 12:40 p.m. CST

    dextermorgan (spoilers)

    by chinofjim

    he certainly does fail in protecting her. Even this though is an interesting bit of Bond deconstruction. How many other girls down the years, girls who have put their trust in Bond or teamed up with him, has he failed to protect, but then gone onto succeed in his mission? This is taking the Bond staple of a Bond girl dying at the hands of the villain and retooling it. Its an interesting point you make about whether or Bond does even help the situation when he knifes Silva. Watching it with no fore knowledge, it was a scene with an interesting dramatic dynamic going on because by the time Bond gets to the Chapel, M has Silva's gun in her own hand. In terms of preventing further collateral damage, that is explicitly stated by M when she says too many people have died, and is why the plan they put into motion with Q's help (later sanctioned by Mallory when he finds out) is to lay a breadcrumb trail that could only be picked up by Silva and noone else. M agrees to this plan knowing it will put her life at risk. In that sense it echoes the beginning of the film, when she makes a call that she knows will put Bond's life at risk. She does this because of the greater risk of more collateral damage resulting from the disc getting away. The difference is that in that instance she doesn't trust Bond to get the job done. In this instance she does, and when she says, just before she dies, that she was at least right about one thing, she is endorsing he view that in a sense they did succeed

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 5:56 p.m. CST


    by dude_gimme_tabs

    This man above me is talking sense. You should listen to him.

  • Nov. 6, 2012, 5:57 p.m. CST


    by dude_gimme_tabs

    I meant that guy.

  • Nov. 7, 2012, 1:45 a.m. CST

    Gunbarrel & music


    Front and Arnold. Then perfect. Newman let the aside down massively. And Adele's song wasn't all that.

  • Nov. 7, 2012, 2:57 a.m. CST


    by smylexx

    my review was better. no, really.

  • Nov. 7, 2012, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Entertaining, but horribly uneven tonally

    by DannyOcean01

    For every sombre moment you get a corny one-liner and by the end you're wondering why they bothered rebooting if they intended to move back to the gadgets and the humour in the first place. I still found humour in the previous films, but Skyfall felt more of a comedy in places, rather than just a wry look or delivery from Craig. I understand the 50th anniversary references, but the stuff with the classic Bond car was overplayed and how you can move from a great clinical action sequence to camp in the climax, baffles me. It's a good movie, but it's not the Bond set-up by the previous movies.

  • Nov. 7, 2012, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Belongs among the top third of Bond movies! I mean it!

    by wtriker1701

    Daniel Craig is the fourth best Bond ever. Sorry to disappoint you younglings. 1. Connery (Hardball, Softball, tops all) 2. Moore (The most british Bond you'll ever get) 3. Brosnan (Connery-Moore-Hybrid) 4. Craig (just one face, even when crying) 5. Dalton (just grim und brutal) 6. Lazenby (boring) BUT: After the chaos CASINO ROYALE (establishing James Bond as JACK BAUER and having 45 minutes of crappy Texas Hold'Em) and QUATUM OF SOLACE (Hey, Matt Damon is JASON BOURNE, don't try to make him Daniel Craig) gave us - come on, those were no BOND movies! CR was probably a nice interpretation of the book, but BOND on screen is a totally different person than the Bond in the books. Accept it! However: After the chaos of those two movies I didn't have any expectations for SKYFALL. Hell, I even didn't want to go to the cinema to watch it (and that, having seen ALL Bond movies since THE SPY WHO LOVED ME - guess my age). I did, though, and what shall I say? It's a GREAT movie! And better: It's a REAL Bond movie, gadets, humor and action side by side. HOORAY! Even those mistakes mentioned above don't matter, i can overlook them sooo easily, because I was entertained highly! Only problem remaining: This whole reboot idea is an anachronism. They shouldn't have involved Dame Judi Dench in CASINO ROYALE. That damaged the whole reboot idea. She's a great actor, but the end doesn't justify the means at ll... Dench's M belonged to the Brosnan era... and here's my point: THIS movie could have been a perfect BROSNAN vehicle. It didn't have to be the third in a reboot trilogy. Would Pierce Brosnan have been given the chance to do this movie right after DIE ANOTHER DAY, SKYFALL might have even been much better!!! But all in all: Great 140 minutes running time, not one fucking minute wasted! It was simply great. Even the silent moments of the movie were stunning. Sountrack: Thomas Newman did a wonderful job of modernizing the score whilst embracing the history of Bond score. Well done! And yes: Easily the best Craig Bond Movie! (But that's not been that difficult)

  • Nov. 7, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Oh, and congrations to OBAMA winning!!!

    by wtriker1701

    I believe he'll make up for the promises made four years ago. America is great and deserves a real chance!!

  • Nov. 7, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST

    congratulations, not congrations...

    by wtriker1701

    Damn those typos of a stoopid German...

  • Nov. 7, 2012, 6:18 p.m. CST

    @david cloverfield

    by Wyrdy the Gerbil

    Well done there giving away a huge fucking spoiler you Muppet,I saw it opening day but its even release in the US until friday so heres a heads up if your going to put a spoiler in your post PUT SPOILER in the headline not in the fucking post

  • Nov. 7, 2012, 6:19 p.m. CST

    not even released DOH!!!

    by Wyrdy the Gerbil

  • Nov. 7, 2012, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Product Placement

    by Mark

    Those who whine have clearly never opened a Bond book. Fleming uses brand names. In. Every. Single. Chapter.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 2:15 a.m. CST

    got a cool poster at the midnight screening

    by Brodie Watson

    yaaaa... pretty awesome bond film, and the imax poster we got after the film was icing on the cake.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 4:49 a.m. CST

    the movie's otherwise surprisingly tight grip on reality

    by Mr Kite

    Are you f*!king kidding! Did we see the same movie? This is Bond for 12 year olds. A massive let down after all the hype. Yet another 2012 Kool-Aid movie.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 6:41 a.m. CST


    by theplant


  • My 1st "BOND" was "GOLDFINGER" at its regional premiere @ the great Majestic Theatre on Houston in San Antonio... the line went around the block up the alley past the old colored box office/entrance to 2nd (blacks only) balcony, another 1st for me (the line)... the Astin Martin was parked out front... it was a date with my 1st real, adult love Mary Elizabeth Galvan... next weekend we also went to a drive-in double feature of "Doctor No" & "From Russia With Love." I was hooked on "BOND" after that... still am !!! I've seen every "BOND" since then at the 1st available screening (though I thought about jump'n ship during later "Roger Moore's", but didn't) "SKYFALL" last night was an exceptional "BOND," exciting, fantastic, colorful, sexy, intriguing, intelligent, emotional, everything I wanted... Is it the best? Hard to say. I've seen those first six in theaters dozens of times each... number one for me usually rotates between #2, 3,& 4, plus OHMSS depending where my head's at when asked... "SKYFALL" is certainly up there with them. Absolutely loved the pre-titles chase/fight, definitely one of the very best... the opening titles a "BOND" hallmark is positively the best in years... the theme song another benchmark "BOND" item another top of the pile plus for this motion picture... locations, up there with the best... villain, a fave, among the very best... the babes, nothing wrong here (maybe could use a little more skin}... the final climatic fight/battle, not on the scale of "Thunderball" or "You Only Live Twice", but "What Is?", it was wonderful, just not epic (but more realistic) ... loved the filling in of holes in Bond's history, the reappearance of some familiar items, etc... loved the film... for sure in my TOP 5 all time "BOND" movies, will watch "SKYFALL" repeatedly... for sure.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 1:45 p.m. CST

    nobody asked.

    by JAMF

  • most overrated, most over-hyped Bond movies ever made. It really boggles my mind that the film critics and the fans have praised it as the best Bond movie in the series which revitalized the franchise. But i guess that's how marketing and promotion is working these days. Lesson learned: never trust noone. Only listen to your opinion and instinct. 2012 seems to be the year with the most disappointing, over-hyped blockbuster movies in the recent time. Prometheus, TDKR, Skyfall, all of them are mediocre movies which don't deserve at all the praise that they are getting. And for which, it clearly showcases that the intelligent,quality entertaining cinema in Hollywood, is down in the drain. Let's hope that Hobbit won't become another disastrous disappointment, i had it enough with all those so-called masterpieces this year.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 5:58 p.m. CST

    oh and Brad Bird >>> Sam Mendes

    by frank

    despite its flaws, Bird's MI4 is 10 levels above the mediocrity that is Mendes' Skyfall. I really really hope that Bird will get to direct Star Wars because the guy is one of the most talented,skilled and capable directors of pulling this enormous task off.

  • Nov. 8, 2012, 9:43 p.m. CST

    How come no thought using Connery as the new "M"

    by 2mules4sistersarah

    to replace the original M? I don't have a problem with Judi Dench but to have Connery do it would have been fun. Plus having him playing a fatherlike figure to the new Bond would a carryover to the one that was in the Bond books.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Roger or riot!!

    by Marc

    Skyfall is the best Bond in over 30 years but I still love Roger Moore the best.....FYEO and SWLM are among the best Bond flicks

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 7:20 p.m. CST

    I loved Skyfall, and here's why... (Spoilers)

    by Greg McCambley

    This was yet another fantastic outing for Daniel Craig's Bond. From the opening teaser to the final credits, it was pure joy. If I had to pick my personal highlights, they would be: 1) main titles - I am one of the few who really enjoyed QoS, but if there is one place where that movie failed, it was the replacement of Daniel Kleinman as main title designer. Kleinman has done stellar work since Goldeneye, and his CR is a main title sequence for the ages. Marc Forster's decision not to go with Kleinman was, I think, a mistake. So seeing his work underscoring Adele's theme song really brought the Bond back. 2) M - Dame Judi Dench has been M for 17 years. She's been an outstanding actor in the role, and this is her film as much as Craig's. Like in TWINE, her past comes back to haunt her as someone seeks revenge for her past actions. She really does a fine job in this one, and the ending is truly sad, both for her and Bond. Though part of me does wonder if she's really dead, or if she just took the opportunity to disappear (as Bond had tried to do). Still, we do have a fine replacement in Ralph Fiennes. And speaking of Fiennes, I have to give the writers and director full marks for giving us an M with a fully realised character with a background, and not just a suit. 3) Resetting the past - As others have mentioned, we get a whole lot of old-school Bond updated in this one. Bond's Aston Martin, Q, Moneypenny, M's office. Every one of those things never felt forced into the movie. Skyfall works as Bond's "rebirth" into MI6, as the development of him from CR and QoS comes to a head. This is the Bond we first saw 50 years earlier, albeit played this time by Craig. When Craig opens his garage and the Bond theme comes up, the fact it's Arnold's version from the end of CR wasn't lost on me. This is Craig stepping into Connery's shoes, so to speak. Perfect. So, all in all, a beautiful film. I wasn't disappointed, and I look forward to seeing Bond 24.

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Huge plothole at the climax


    I agree with Larry Sanders above. Very overrated with limp action sequences and very little of the classic Bond wit. As for the plothole: Spoilers.... If Mallory (the Ralph fiennes character) and Q know *exactly* where Bond is leading Silva to as the film nears its climax -- meaning Skyfall Lodge, the place where Bond grew up -- why the hell didn't they send in the freaking Royal navy or the SAS to ambush them/protect M & Bond??? They did it the first time when Bond signaled them with his tiny radio gadget on the ship to Silva's deserted island lair. As I said, huge plothole.

  • I didn't know from TAKEN 2, but I'm pretty sure all that cycle stuff in the pre-title was in the same location as the finale of Tykwer's THE INTERNATIONAL with Clive Owen. Back on topic ... hell, y'know, this movie maybe isn't even worth discussing anymore. It pissed me off and disappointed me in so many way (expected and unexpected) that it doesn't merit further consideration.

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 5:21 a.m. CST

    The ending was stupid

    by KalVilmer

    The ending was like an episode of The A-Team.

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Question about Moneypenny Shooting Bond

    by captain_kirk

    Did she really hit him? Does he have a bullet inside him? I was confused because he took out the shrapnel from the one shot. Did the other go through him? I thought she might have missed, and that he took a fall intentionally. We had bad sound. please comment.

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 8:39 a.m. CST


    by captain_kirk

    not the a team.... it was in the scottish highlands. it was clearly an episode of...MACGUYVER

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 9:13 a.m. CST

    captain_kirk re: Moneypenny shooting Bond

    by Greg McCambley

    The shrapnel they pulled out of Bond came not from Moneypenny's gun, but from Patrice's gun. He shot Bond while Bond was in the cab of the shovel on the train. I'm assuming Moneypenny's shot was a through and through.

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 10:07 a.m. CST

    An explanation for no SAS at the end of Skyfall

    by Greg McCambley

    Simply put, SAS involvement would have meant informing the PM on the situation. You can't send out a detachment of soldiers on a mission and not inform them. It was made clear in the scene when Q and Tanner were setting up the trail to Scotland and Mallory walks in that 11 Downing Street was not to know. If the PM learned about it, they were screwed.

  • traitor, turned terrorist,ex-MI6 spy, made them look good? I understand that Bond movies are supposed to never be taken seriously but the plotholes in Skyfall reach Transformer level of retardness.

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 11:30 a.m. CST

    They Couldn't Send In SAS

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    If they had tried the PM would have sent a mission to pull M and Bond out and bring them back to a secure location operated by computer where Silva would have been able to work his mojo and many more people would have died...the ONLY other option was to take Silva "back in time" to a place where Bond could count on his own skills and cunning to win the day...the point was NOT to save was to stop Silva while avoiding killing more civilians and MI6 agents, M was nothing more than bait to draw Silva out into the open, to a location only Bond knew and a place where he could finally have the upper hand for once...inform the PM and it all goes to pot and Silva once again has the advantage

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 11:37 a.m. CST

    You know what it would have worked better in the movie?

    by frank

    Have M, who is carrying the list with the secret agents, getting kidnapped in the start of the movie. Bond tries to save her during the kidnap but he gets shot by Patrice and he is presumed dead. At the same time, MI6's headquarters become the target of a terrorist attack. These two events cause a political backlash and an under pressure PM wants to terminate MI6 as an obsolete,unreliable agency for UK's national security. Gareth becomes the temporary head of MI6 with the task to save M, retrieve the list and find out who is the terrorist behind all these attacks. Bond resurfaces and comes in touch with Gareth whom persuades to let him go alone after M's kidnappers because with him out of the picture, the kidnappers wouldn't expect him and it would be easier and faster for him to reach them. Gareth is initially reluctant but as an ex-soldier understands the importance of MI6 and that some battles must be fought in the shadows. He knows that MI6 is not only shaken and exposed because of the recent events but also under the watchful eye of the PM. Time is of essence and following official procedures would be the waste of it. So he gives Bond the permission to do whatever it is necessary to save M, retrieve the list and capture or kill the kidnapper. He also sends Q to provide him with equipment and information during Bond's search. Eventually Bond discovers M and her kidnapper in an isolated island with an abandoned russian missile platform. The place is called Skyfall. Bond frees M, gets the list and uses his radio transmitter to call MI6 for assistance. Unfortunately they can't escape the island so they are forced to make a stand against Silva until Mi6's help arrives. A local fisherman named Kincade, whom Bond met when arriving at the island, comes to their aid. Bond kills Silva but fails to save M, a few minutes before MI6's arrival. Regardless the mission is considered a success and the PM changes his mind about MI6, M has the funeral of a hero, Gareth becomes the new head of MI6 and Bond is send to his mission, a mission which involves his past and his dead family..but that is a story for the next movie. THE END.

  • handle a renegade agent and a bunch of mercs. No wonder the PM wanted to terminate MI6, such a useless national security organization. Btw there were no civilians in Skyfall so an SAS team could arrive to help Bond without jeopardizing the lives of innocents. Admi it boys and girls: the script is mediocre, it has the same flaws that Prometheus and TDKR and Avengers have: all the events that happen in these stories are not organically connected and they don't serve anything else apart from promoting a simplistic plot. They don't have a subtext, they don't cause a conflict so that drama is created, they don't develop characters and they don't explore themes. They are there so that the story can go from point A to point B. That's the sad truth about those so called masterpieces..

  • Film was Fantastic Best bond since Goldeneye as I`ve not really liked bond since then Royal was good but not Great but that's just me!

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 2:43 p.m. CST

    The only thing I have to admit is...

    by Greg McCambley

    ...that I liked Skyfall more than you did. You're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine.

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Skyfall being a mediocre movie is not an opinion.

    by frank

    it is a fact. please, please, stop perceiving your personal enjoyment of something as an indicator of its quality.

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 5:48 p.m. CST

    Silva's face...

    by BeMoreFunny

    was horribly disfigured because he chewed a cyanide tablet...but he didn't die? I didn't understand that.

  • Nov. 10, 2012, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Marrcel. No sas. Thatsalaugh. Should been...

    by captain_kirk

    Duh silva is a hacker. They'd know the plan if it went bigger More scarring and explanation re shot shoulda been

  • Nov. 11, 2012, 2:32 a.m. CST

    It was pretty good.

    by SpaghettiWall

    What could've been used more: - Bond being 'dead' - The island Silva was on. What wasn't terribly interesting: - M's politics subplot. - The Komodo Dragon CGI. What was excellent: - Cinematography. Just perfect. - Silva making an "entrance" in the helicopter. - That fucked up face he had

  • Nov. 11, 2012, 7:02 a.m. CST


    by LarkStew

    Your story would make a far better movie than what I saw in Skyfall.

  • Nov. 11, 2012, 7:49 a.m. CST


    by david

    I loved it but I think it will end up behind Casino Royale. Licence To Kill and From Russia for some of the reasons being wildly beaten to death in the forum. Sometimes I don't mind weird plot stretches/holes. If its 1977 and Roger Moore is basically making a holiday movie for us all to enjoy then I'm in like Flint when you can't explain who is actually behind the submarine tracker sale. But in this - admitttedly great - Bond we're getting a more stripped down, personal, gritty, realistic feel and a story that exists to drive quite real emotional reactions from characters. For that reason the couple of plot points that bothered me really bothered me, just because they pulled me out of the film for a few seconds. Bond assuming that the metal in his shoulder would be anything other than a normal bullet. Patrice shooting depleted uranium bullets... from his rather normal gun. Q being dumb enough to plug Silva's computer into their systems. And most of all the assumptions in Silva's plan and the needlessness of it (why not just sneak into London and steal police uniforms? why go to all that trouble?) So I enjoyed it enormously. It was full of great elements, performances etc. But I un-suspended my disbelief a few times and - in this film - that was less than perfect. It's a classic and a very different Bond but its not quite up there with the other few I mentioned as a complete film. Still, the way it has divided people seems strange to me. The level of dislike from people who didn't like it makes no sense to me. But then this is the interwebs I suppose. Question for you: Do you feel like the last 2 mins was a promise of lighter Bond to come? And do you think they have to/should go lighter next time? I think the tortured Bond thing has been done enough for now. Put him in a volcano with Kingsley as Blofeld next time ;)

  • Nov. 11, 2012, 7:50 a.m. CST


    by david

    That is some DAD trolling right there sir. Must try harder....

  • Nov. 11, 2012, 10:45 a.m. CST


    by Greg McCambley

    Anytime a movie gets high praise from audiences and critics, there's always going to be contrarians out there who have to say it's the worst piece of drivel out there. That's the nature of the world. As for the plot holes, I'll take them one at a time. First, I noticed that Patrice's gun was not your normal gun. At one point, you see he's firing a gun with two large (I'm assuming) ammo holders attached at the bottom. That, I'm sure, already marks Patrice's weapon as different enough to suggest something to Bond. As for checking the shrapnel, they were at a dead end. They had no clues to follow up, and Bond either played a hunch or was grasping at straws. He's done both on many other occasions. Next up, Q. One assumes that he's got the arrogance of youth. He is the best and the brightest there is, so the idea that somebody else might be better than he is might not click. It's a mistake that won't happen again. Finally, the assumptions of Silva. His entire mission was to not only kill M, but completely destroy her reputation. How better to do that than by escaping from MI6 custody? Most people would assume that his goal would be to escape in the confusion, but Bond realised Silva's plan was to go after M. The point of the plan was that Silva didn't think it was needless: he had to prove he was better than Bond, better than M, better than MI6. We may think the plan was needlessly extravagant, but for Silva, it was perfect. I do think that we will be getting a lighter Bond for the next couple of movies, and I look forward to it. And I rank CR as the best Craig Bond so far. It was brilliant, and still has the best main title sequence ever. Skyfall was a great Bond film, and I enjoy all the movies (even the less than stellar ones).

  • Nov. 11, 2012, 11:28 a.m. CST

    asiandawn: Subway sandwiches.

    by frank

    like them?

  • Nov. 11, 2012, 11:30 a.m. CST

    thatsalaugh oh save me with this shit.

    by frank

    explaining movie plotholes with your ,last minute thought, theories, doesn't make the movie any better. As i said, personally i don't have any problem with plotholes in Bond movies. I expect them. But i have a problem when critics and fans try to persuade me that this borefest is the best Bond movie ever. It is not.

  • Nov. 11, 2012, 11:53 a.m. CST


    by Greg McCambley

    I'm not trying to convince you of anything. And I'm not going to get into a debate with you.

  • Nov. 11, 2012, 1:03 p.m. CST


    by Greggers

    How will M's death be reported in the news? How bizarre would it be for the head of the CIA to be killed in a battle that included helicopters in Nebraska? How long was Bond gone? 3 months? By the way he was deconditioned, you'd have thought he was gone 3 years? How shitty is it that Bond only came up with the lightning fast reflexes gambit only 5 seconds after the girl was shot? (And then the cavalry arrived 5 seconds after that.) Fuck M -- Severin was the most tragic character in the movie: A crappy life of being a whore scared shitless; she makes her one stab at freedom, and gets shot for it, only to have the hero come up with an incredibly improbable escape moments afterward. And yeah, he was more upset when the car got killed. And why didn't he stop the assassination? Was there something to be gained only after Patrice fired? And on behalf of the family of the second security guard in that building, thanks a whole fucking lot for stepping in so late in the game. You probably would have gotten that chip if you'd have stopped Patrice in the lobby. And if you're a supervillain trying to stealthily move throughout the Londan subway system, why wear the one hairdo that will look most conspicuous underneath a policeman's hat? I mean, he knew he was going to get caught -- whynot tone the hair down ahead of time to make the escape easier? You're an evil genius, ferchrissakes! And if Albert Finney locked the priest's hole from the inside before he and M got into it, how did James Bond unlock it so he could get into it?

  • Nov. 11, 2012, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Cavejohnson is a cunt

    by CoolerKing72


  • Nov. 11, 2012, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Why Craig is the best Bond

    by Bass Ackwards

    Just saw him on Kimmel, turns out he had a pretty big role in landing BOTH Mendes and Bardem in Skyfall, two big gets that play big roles in the quality of the flick.

  • Nov. 11, 2012, 10:57 p.m. CST

    Wow, nobody bothered to answer my question

    by frank

    about the salty subway sandwiches. oh well, if they can't beat you, they ignore you. at least i hope you enjoyed that salty Skyfall. I didn't. Because it was salty. Fact.

  • Nov. 11, 2012, 11 p.m. CST

    greggers WELL SAID.

    by frank

    you pinpoint a few of this crapfest's problems, with the precision of a surgeon. well done.

  • Nov. 12, 2012, 4:02 a.m. CST


    by LarkStew

    About why Bond didn't stop the assassination... I assumed it was because the guy was obviously being set up by the people around him, Severine was clearly looking out the window towards Patrice's position expecting a shot. If that hadn't happened they would have been alerted to something going wrong with the hit. As a standalone movie I thought Skyfall was ok... not brilliant, but ok. 7/10. As a Bond movie, to me it just didn't feel right. They had the perfect template for a modern day Bond in Casino Royale, why do they feel it needs reformulating again? And why did they make Q a smart ass nerd hacker?

  • Nov. 12, 2012, 5:50 a.m. CST

    Loved it

    by Hipshot

    Fantastic meta-Bond film. Send the SAS? Yeah, try doing that without any computer communications that Silva could intercept. Good luck. The Bond films cover a spectrum from near-comedy to near tragedy. What a series.

  • Nov. 12, 2012, 6:24 a.m. CST

    Gun Barrell

    by John Walker

    Two questions: 1.What was the substance used to freeze Han Solo? 2. Is it wrong to put the "gun barrell" sequence at the end of a Bond movie? Same answer to both questions: WHO GIVES A SHIT!!!!??!! Fucking nerds.

  • Nov. 12, 2012, 10:41 a.m. CST

    @j-dub lol


  • Nov. 12, 2012, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Fucking great movie. Now my top 5 list just got rearranged

    by SID 8.0

    Definitely the best Bond movie.

  • Nov. 12, 2012, 3:01 p.m. CST

    saw this last night

    by Stephen

    spoilers I guess: What was most interesting about this film (besides Javier Bardem) was the fact that it was kind of the first postmodern bond film. It wasn't really about Bond the character so much as it was about Bond the franchise. It's like exploring the idea of remakes and how they require acknowledgement of the existence of a reboot. Too many times (though, if handed the reigns to a franchise I can't say I'd do differently) There's this attitude of "clean slate." No actors from the previous films. No continuation of plot. Bond's history of wonderfully vague continuity has always transcended this and the film knew it. Bond in this film is not the Bond that never killed anybody before Casino Royale. This is the Bond that's been around since Fleming. The whole idea of spies being outmoded in the face of computers (which was far more the central conflict then the Silva revenge plot) is not something that was irrelevant when they booted up with Craig as the titular spy. Craig Bond would not logically have had the chance to become so old fashioned. He was internet-age from the get-go. So they morphed him into the role as a whole and explored that in context. There's this element of reincarnation for the individual. Its not like they just tell the story again. M wasn't rebooted when they rebooted Bond. But here she is, now being recast. It's a different character, but simultaneously it isn't. Fiennes is much more reminiscent of the old Ms from the pre-Dench era. Q, even though they draw attention to his youth acts like he's been doing this forever. He says "I invented it" when referring to come computer technique. He remembers the days of exploding pens. You get the feeling that he's not some twerp that took over the Q position, it actually IS Q in a new body. Bond himself was reincarnated mid film. His "death" was the moment he stopped being young Bond and became classic old Bond.

  • Nov. 12, 2012, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Re: Gun Barrel at the end

    by Stephen

    Taken in context of this movie along, it's perfect to have it at the end because this movie was really about him becoming Bond. This was more of an origin movie than CR was. They SHOULD however put it at the beginning of the next one.

  • Nov. 12, 2012, 3:43 p.m. CST

    i swear this is like prometheus/star trek all over again

    by JAMF


  • Nov. 12, 2012, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Just came back from watching it. Jesus that was terrible.

    by rakesh patel

    nope, not watching that again.

  • Nov. 12, 2012, 8:17 p.m. CST

    Wow! It sucks to be you Mr. X

    by ray a

    I don't know what movie you saw but Skyfall was anything but terrible even if its not some people's cup of tea.

  • Nov. 12, 2012, 10 p.m. CST

    cavejohnson I'll bite (sigh)

    by david

    I don't love Subway. If I'm in a rush and hungry and one is nearby I've been known to wolf down the odd one. Just turkey or veggie. Lots of peppers. Why do you ask? What pisspoor trollsmanship sandwich is waiting for me here? You made me hungry mentioning sandwiches so this had better be good....

  • Nov. 12, 2012, 10:55 p.m. CST

    My one-word review: SkyDULL

    by jawsfan

  • Nov. 12, 2012, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Boring movie. I doubt I will ever want to watch it again.

    by jawsfan

  • Nov. 13, 2012, 4:15 p.m. CST

    one thing I was thinking of the other day...

    by MamboMan

    James Bond (in Goldeneye) meets the new M for the first time, and seems to have known Moneypenny for a while........... yet in this movie he's worked with M for a while and was just introduced to Moneypenny? Whoa

  • Nov. 13, 2012, 4:45 p.m. CST

    It's Quite Simple. Casino Royale > Skyfall >>> Quantum of Solca

    by Crow3711

    Skyfall was good, not great. It's not tough to understand. The only part of it that was truly stellar was the cinematography. Holy shit Roger Deakins fucking owned that movie. Every scene is GORGEOUS.

  • Nov. 13, 2012, 5:23 p.m. CST


    by dude_gimme_tabs

    Great name!<p> Anyway, it's not that hard. Brosnan-Bond was meeting Dench-M for the first time.<p> He was the timeless reiteration of the same character - Connery-Bond, Lazenby-Bond, Moore-Bond and Dalton-Bond. She was Old-Ms replacement.<p> Craig comes post the 'Reset Button' so Craig-Bond is Reboot-Bond. Same character as the previous, just rebooted as per Keaton-Batman vs Bale-Batman.<p> In this universe, Dench-M is also rebooted M. Same character, different reiteration. They just decided not to recast as they had a fantastic actress in the role.<p> It amazes me that the same people who whine about this continuity related confusion are the same people who just eat up all the total fucking shit that your comic picture books serve you!<p> It's OK for Golden Age Barry Barrinson to secretly be Captain Fuckwad until the Earth 3 Invasion Wars when Carl Carlson became Captain Fuckwad of the Silver Age after Doctor Poorlydefined's robotic shark ate Barry Barrinson (but didn't really, because later Barry Barrinson reclaimed the mantle of Captain Fuckwad after Carl Carlson decided to go and be Captain Fuckwad in Earth 93) - this is standard, read a Wikipedia description of any fucking comic book! - however a simple reboot of a 50 year old franchise causes consternation?<p> My fucking God!

  • thing that just made me go wtf whilst watching. stolen noc list, keep agents in place and await for them to be exposed on youtube. moneypenny beats up some of the bad guys in the casino. bond walks off. moneypenny stays. in a casino where shes helped bond escape from casino employees that what to kill him. jumps and grabs lift, has no idea how he can get out. blondie groping bond. bond misses the shot glass, blondie kills her. what. that's it? maybe she wouldn't have been in that position if she didn't shag bond and made it fucking obvious she shagged him. oh well, bond doest give two fucks. calls in the cavalry! q plugs in super hacker extraordinaire laptop onto the network! blondie captured in isolation, allowed to keep his removable metal jaw prosthetic. head of MI5, being told of emergency, unable to remove herself from grilling by mp by saying it was "an emergency!" dives all the way to Scotland, what a coincidence that ground keeper willy uh i mean alfred is there hanging around. just odd to see tombstones of bruce waynes..uh i mean bonds parents i always thought "James bond" was an alias, transferred from agent to agent. send in ground troops first instead of the huge fucking helicopter. spends all this time trying to kill m and then shows concern shes shot, and want to die with her. no classic lines, no gadets, fewer birds, lackluster villian. always odd seeing so much of London, when you live there.. but that couldn't be helped. loved the opening and Adele theme song, and as i said the picture looked beautiful. but as the movie dragged on and on i couldn't but help see its flaws. it it was a faster paced bond action movie then i probably wouldn't have.

  • Nov. 13, 2012, 6:12 p.m. CST

    Barry Barrison

    by HoraceSkinner

    Most of the comics Barrison appeared in during the 90s was a clone version of barry, including the "death of FW" storyline that was retconned before the first movie franchise before the reboot movie

  • Nov. 13, 2012, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Skyfall was so disappointing.

    by Ash Talon

    I actually was quite disappointed in Skyfall. I thought it was rather boring and un-engaging. The villain’s plot, once revealed, was rather lame. He has a huge set up just to walk into a court and shoot M. How…uninteresting. Why doesn’t he just show up at her house and shoot her there? Certainly his super-hacking (never an interesting film element) could provide her home address? <p> Obviously, Skyfall was aiming to be smaller scale and more personal, but I never felt the stakes were high or desperate enough. It could have been a race between MI6 and the villain to get to each outed agent (at least one of which could have been established early in the film). Nope, they just leave them to be assassinated. <p> There could have been a stronger parallel between Bond the villain, Silva. If the wound Bond suffers that makes him go underground and quit was the one caused by M’s decision to “abandon” him, it would have been a stronger throughline. He would have to overcome his “betrayal” by her and its physical and psychological effects. Did anyone actually feel Bond was betrayed by her anyway? Enough to quit? Instead, any parallel between how Silva and Bond were treated by M is squandered. There should be bit of cat and mouse between Bond and Silva, as they’re variations of a similar person. There’s a surprising lack of rivalry between them in the film. <p> Need I even mention that Silva causes an empty subway train to collapse on Bond. Where did it come from? Are we to believe people were in there, since there were none in the clearly-seen windows? <p> There were just too many wasted opportunities in the film which I couldn’t get past. I actually think it makes Quantum of Solace look better (an unfairly maligned film), as at least QoS had an interesting villain plot which Bond had to uncover. QoS also was more personal to Bond, as he was out to seek vengeance for his lost love. I understood and felt his emotional need to succeed, whereas in Skyfall, Bond was just there to stop the bad guy. So very disappointing.

  • Nov. 14, 2012, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Am I the only one who liked moore ?

    by HoraceSkinner

    Spy who loved me is imo the best bond film. I also really enjoy for your eyes only. Live and let die would be up there but for its being a.victim or its time. The idea of bond being a cold blooded killer has been explored enough. Bond has more weapons that his disreguard for human life. He has and uses his charm and charisma. He is also extremely resourceful. He was smarter than many of his villian and out witted them on many occassions. Were the old movies too camp for most ? Did Moore play bond ten years too long? Were those ? yes yes but they felt like BOND films not just action movies. Also james bond has black hair. And money penny was awful.

  • Nov. 14, 2012, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Yes, horaceskinner. You are the only one who liked Moore.

    by Star Hump

    Even after 7 movies seen by millions upon millions of people around the entire world, you are the only one. That has got to be a strange feeling. Can you tell us what it's like?

  • Nov. 14, 2012, 9:34 p.m. CST


    by david

    I love love love Rog but I grew up with him and I do get how he might be a hard taste to acquire for those who didn't. Spy Who Loved Me is one of my four favourite Bonds. The others are Licence To Kill, From Russia and Casino Royale. Spy is the apex of Bond as a campy, big, confident, knowing, winking franchise. EON will never repeat that kind of effortless, cocky, over-the-top success. It was of its time. Spy is a beautiful movie (watch the Scottish sub base scenes on Blur Ray). It's funny. It makes no sense in a wonderful way. It has a great suave villain. And don't even start me on the ski jump pre-credits - Bond's finest Canadian moment. There's a great clip of Moore talking to the press during filming. Rog is soaking wet, enjoying a cigar on the control room set in Stromberg's tanker (with the big globe that shows where the submarines are). One of the journalists breaks the ice by asking "So Roger, what's this one about?" and Moore just smiles before saying "Damned if I know. Go grab a script if you want to find that out..." And that is, in a nutshell, why its both the best and the worst Bond ever. But mostly the best. So no, you are not alone in loving Roger and The Spy Who Loved Me. But I think we should be honest and admit that it is both the best Bond film and the worst Bond film all at once.

  • Nov. 15, 2012, 4:16 a.m. CST



    IMO, The Spy Who Loved Me is the best Bond, ever. Love, love, loved Moore!

  • Nov. 15, 2012, 10:55 a.m. CST


    by captain_kirk

    i thought about that, too, given how easy it was for bond to get in there, as always. however, a public execution during a hearing would be a spectacle.

  • Nov. 15, 2012, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Moore was a tremendous Bond

    by Star Hump

    Reserve complaints for the scripts and the overused comedic elements , but the problem wasn't Moore. He's the Bond I grew up with and is still my favorite to this day. I loved Live and Let Die, The Spy Who Loved Me, For Your Eyes Only and Octopussy especially. Spy was the best. The sets and settings were just fantastic. Big Bond fun.

  • Nov. 15, 2012, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Moore has a tremendously tiny penis

    by Adam D. Kline

    Or so he admitted on Howard Stern's show this week.

  • Nov. 16, 2012, 6:08 a.m. CST

    The top 5 Bond Movies...

    by Bradly Durant

    1. A View to a Kill - Roger Moore's swansong is a bittersweet performance which is the most Fleming like of any before or since. Grace Jones pubic hair should have won an academy award. The bit were that old guy from Avengers is eaten alive by dogs is one of the best scenes in the entire franchise, as far as I can remember - although I confess I only watched it once years ago and not all the way through. 2. Octopussy - Any movie that features a giant mollusc being used in connection with a moist vagina is always going to be a firm favourite. Maud Adams reprises her role as Scaromanga's girlfriend from The Man with the Golden Gun only this time she's in India and that man who played Dracula in the 1970's is also in it but I forget what he does in it exactly. The bit where the car jumps over that river and turns around in the air 480 degrees is the shits. 3. Die Another Day - A dirty old Pierce Bronson grows a beard and gets to walk naked into a 5 star hotel and not only gets a penthouse for free but is also given a choice of chinese whores to fuck as well. Hally Berry wears a bright orange bikni and thinks she's Ursulla Andress or something - news for you Ms Berry Ursualla Andress wore a white bikni not a fucking orange one so get fucked. The dirty bitch also puts a saliva covered ice cube in Pierce Bronson's mouth as she rapes him. That gave me nightmares for weeks. 4. The Las Vegas one - Sean Connery is back (again) set 20 years later Connery's Bond is sent to a health spar to get his mojo back. Blofelt meanwhile is now wearing a wig but is a dead giveaway since he still carrys a white cat around with him. It all ends on an oil rig and Bond get to drive a crane. Fucking brilliant this one. 5. Moonraper - Roger Moore uses lasers in outer space. The space battles seen here are a reminder why George Lucas lost his mind whilst filming The Ewok Adventures. Oh and that's that line about Roger Moore attempting re-entry into some bitches ass. The dirty fucker.

  • Nov. 16, 2012, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Skyfall Overrated (spoilers)

    by FirstMan

    Agree with ash talon. Really fizzled out for me in the 2nd half, like they brought a new writer on. Plot stunk (especially in 2nd half). The final part where they go back to his old house was just awful. Didn't feel like a spy flick.

  • Nov. 16, 2012, 10:33 a.m. CST


    by FirstMan

    I'm done with rotten tomatos. Every major big budget movie that comes out gets awesome reviews. Either the reviewers are being bought, or people are just really easily entertained these days. Spiderman and Dark Knight Rises being perfect examples. Skyfall also isn't as great as everyone is saying (last act highly flawed).

  • Nov. 16, 2012, 11:21 a.m. CST


    by FlyingToupee

    So, Bond has the Aston Martin DB5(presumably the one he won in CR), but it's fitted with the eject. When he jokes with M about the ejector button, it's an inside joke wit them. Did GOLDFINGER already happen? Or is it in Bond's future(especially since Ray Fiennes is clearly supposed to be the Bernard Lee M, and he is just meeting Moneypenny). I know that continuity isn't a strong point of the Bond series, but I still want to know the deal.

  • Nov. 16, 2012, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Skyfall sucks, critics ate smoking crack

    by Lostboytejas


  • Nov. 18, 2012, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Great movie

    by Bob

    Loved every bit of it. The Goldfinger Aston Martin was just the icing on the cake. Cheers to all those years of great Bond books, great Bond movies, and great memories.


  • Nov. 23, 2012, 10:33 a.m. CST

    The gun barrel opening WAS the first shot of this film

    by Frank

    I'm surprised nobody picked up on this or mentioned it yet. I'm also surprised that so many people are complaining the classic gun barrel opening wasn't included in the opening of this film, WHEN IT WAS! We get the classic Bond trumpet hit "DAAH DUN!" Then we open to a long tunnel-eqsue hallway with a lit doorway opening at the end. Bond steps in front of the doorway and stands there for a moment, before drawing his gun. This was clearly a recreation of the classic gun barrel opening, just done in a clever way. The hallway being so long and tunnel-eqsue and the doorway at the end is supposed to be the gun barrel. This is why they did this. I guess it just went over many people's heads, or perhaps you're all just looking for something to complain about. But it was there!

  • Nov. 23, 2012, 10:36 a.m. CST

    They couldn't send the Royal Navy to Skyfall

    by Frank

    Mallory plainly states that he doesn't want the Prime Minister to know about any of the plan to lure Silva to skyfall. Q didn't even want Mallory to know. It's completely off the books and they needed to keep it on the down-low. Pretty sure sending a navy there wouldn't be so on the down-low.

  • Nov. 24, 2012, 8:23 p.m. CST

    I'm not sure I agree with that tullytaargus...


    If that was Mendes' intention all along then why did he attempt to also put the traditional gunbarrel sequence before it?

  • Nov. 25, 2012, 7:28 a.m. CST

    This doesn't hold a candle to Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy

    by Dr. Chim Richalds

    Now that (TTSS) was a real spy movie. I agree with those arguing that there should have been more backup for Bond at Skyfall - this isn't just about M and Bond and whether more people would die because of "collateral damage" (which is not something they've been overly concerned with before, anyway). Silva still had that list of undercover agents from NATO countries and was slowly releasing them, so the issue was much bigger than those two, and so the idea that the PM would "shut everything down" and would refuse to help is just silly. Moreover, if I recall correctly, that thread wasn't even fully resolved by the end of the movie (they mention after the mid-movie interrogation scene that they need to know whether Silva had given the information to anyone else). It was a decent theater-going experience, but it certainly wasn't the greatest thing since sliced bread.

  • Nov. 25, 2012, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Just to clarify

    by Dr. Chim Richalds

    While they had Silva's super powered laptop, they didn't take any steps to find out if Silva transferred the list elsewhere.

  • Nov. 26, 2012, 11:47 a.m. CST

    The traditional gun barrel shot was at the end.

    by Frank

    The clever, reimagined one was at the beginning.

  • I don't see how people can refer to Skyfall as the best or one of the best Bond movies ever. It was boring and tedious, and was not remotely fun. It was dramatic Bond. I'm not looking for the campiness of Roger Moore or Pierce Brosnan, but I want a Bond movie to be fun and exciting. I honestly enjoyed Quantum much more than Skyfall, and Quantum ain't that great. I'll admit that Casino Royale is greatness. However, Skyfall just seems to be a Goldeneye rehash without all the fun and suspense. Sean Bean was a much better villain. I think this is all "Emperor's New Clothes." We're told that something is great, so if we disagree with that assessment, then something must be wrong with us, so therefore, the masses will go along with the minority who proclaim it's greatness and sheepishly agree.

  • I admit to thinking about an hour in, "Wow, this is slow for a Bond movie". But then it got to the martini, death by animal/lizard, Bond walking bold-faced into the villain's lair, ridiculous island hideaway, doomed imprisoned femme, mutilated villain, the Aston. All following one of the best opening sequences and a throwback theme song. It's darker than a Moore outing, sure, but it has all the Bond touchstones. And anyone picking holes in the plot needs to go back and watch a pre-Craig Bond. Any of them. I do disagree with the popular consensus that Bardem was all that. He played him well, but the character was not a compelling villain. I barely remember his name. And the manner of his death wasn't nearly dramatic enough. By the way, "Emperor's New Clothes" goes both ways. Some people will say something isn't good just because everyone else says it is. You didn't like it, that's cool, but just because a lot of people disagree with you doesn't mean they're wrong or disingenuous or sheep. And is there anything more sheepish than calling people "sheep". Guh! Get a new metaphor!

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 10:41 a.m. CST

    @ bah

    by Ryusei

    I said "Sheepishly agree;" not "sheep." If you would prefer that I refer to everyone nodding in agreement as the amicable idiots of the world or the unwashed masses, then I'm willing to do that. I respect the opinion of a Bond fan, but my problems is that the majority of praises being lauded on this movie are from non-Bond fans. Sure, Skyfall is a decent drama movie with action set pieces. I just don't think it's a good Bond movie. When my buddy's wife says that she thought this was a great movie, my eyebrows raise and I must question her by asking "What is your favorite Bond movie?" When she stutters and stammers, I understand that she's not really a fan. Don't get me wrong. Skyfall is okay. I just think it's overrated. It's not the best Bond movie ever.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Fair enough. I certainly agree it's not the best ever

    by bah

    There are a lot of comparisons to Dark Knight. I certainly see them. Funny thing is, I feel about Dark Knight the way you (ryusei) seem to feel about Skyfall. I think Skyfall showed me that as good as Casino Royale was, I really do prefer some cheese with my Bond.

  • Nov. 27, 2012, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Why this really was sucky - some spoilers

    by Guy Grand

    I've loved me the Bond franchise since I was a kid (I'm not quite as old as Father Geek, but first Bond in the theatre was "You Only Live Twice"). I was psyched for "Skyfall," I've been putting up the original "Dr. No," "FRWL," and "Goldfinger" one-sheets I've had for 40 years to commemorate the 50th anniversary around my homestead. So, it was a huge letdown when I had to sit through the very lame "plot" of this Bond. I know Bond films are elaborately, Rube-Goldberg-esque, contraptions of narrative, but they usually build upon one needed element to another in order for Bond to make his way to main the villain. This one was simply Javier trying to kill M. Period. In the most far-fetched, stupid-ass, coincidentally-dependent, gaping-plothole manner possible. Let me put it to you simply. Bond, very early on, slips unnoticed into M's very modest, very non-descript, street-level apartment, that apparently has NO security whatsoever and easily surprises the old bitty when she comes home from a hard day at work. Any reason why Bardem couldn't just show up at the old bat's place and pop her sometime over the years and years he planned this horridly-stupid series of revenge scenarios? No, of course not. Instead we have to buy into the fact that he spent precious brain matter and audience credibility parameters in hatching a plan to drive denizens off an island, arranging to get captured by MI6, escaping from a makeshift headquarters and clairvoyantly arranging for a bomb to take out a tunnel precisely during a pursuit when a train is approaching, only to rely on trying to shoot at the slow-moving carcass that is Judi Dench while she sat like a dodo in a parliamentary review session! Color me stupifyingly bored. This one was too inane to consider in the bottom 5 of Bond movies.

  • Nov. 29, 2012, 8:39 a.m. CST

    @guy grand, that's a fair summation, but...

    by bah

    Yes, the assassination plot is ridiculous. To be fair, though, that wasn't the only goal of his operation. He made it clear he'd been "hacking" a great many things over the years. They should have a) made him the Blofeld of Quantum, and b) let him survive to continue Quantum (or revive it, I suppose).