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STAR WARS EPISODE VII - Wild Fan Speculation, Or A Distinct Possibility?

Published at: Nov. 1, 2012, 8:33 a.m. CST by Nordling

Nordling here.

This dropped into my inbox this morning.  THIS IS COMPLETE AND UTTER SPECULATION, but I have to admit that it does raise some questions.  Talkbacker lv_426 sent me this little screed:

LV_426 here.

In case you haven’t seen it yet, I figured I’d forward my silly little theory from the talkbacks that Damon Lindelof and Brad Bird might be the writer/director team for Star Wars Episode 7.

My theory...

Damon Lindelof and Brad Bird are already set-up as the writer/director team for Star Wars Episode 7.


The reason for this speculation is that there was a spec script project called 1952 that Damon Lindelof sold to Disney recently (see link below). 

http://www.firstshowing.net/2012/brad-bird-set-to-direct-damon-lindelofs-1952-not-1906-for-disney/

Some specifics from the First Showing article that might point to my theory:

"Brad Bird and fan-favorite film writer Damon Lindelof are teaming up for a new project at Disney. Bird, coming off of his first live-action with Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol, is set to direct the mysterious large scale sci-fi project 1952. Whether that's just a codename or an actual year related to the story, we're not yet sure, but the project "has multi-platform aspirations" meaning Disney wants it for theme parks, retail stores and theaters. It'll no doubt be a "big tentpole" movie, and with these two storytellers leading the way, it is definitely something to watch for."

So in addition to the new Star Wars films, we have theme park and retail store aspirations? I don't know about you, but this sounds like it could be the next phase of Star Wars via the Disney model.

Again from First Showing:

"Now we know that Brad Bird is definitely on-board to direct, but other than that, still no plot details. Anyone? It sounds like Disney has something on their hands that could be huge, and they're making sure to build it from the ground up properly, with the right talent top to bottom. I just wish we knew any extra details about what it was actually about."

My theory is that 1952 is a codename for Star Wars episode 7, 8, and 9. Just as Blue Harvest was used as a working title to throw the media off when Return of the Jedi was in production.


So why this mysterious project known as 1952 though? Because the title alone seems to refer to the year 1952, just as titles like Kubrick's landmark of science fiction 2001: A Space Odyssey or Wong-kar Wai's romantic sci-fi piece 2046 refer to specific years in which the films take place. What happened in 1952 then that makes this seem logical? What I think is the obvious event is an incident where supposedly some UFOs “buzzed the tower” Maverick and Goose style if you will, over Washington D.C between the days of July 19–20 and July 26–27.  This incident, known as the Washington flap, is precisedly the type of project that a writer like Damon Lindelof would seem to be interested in (retro, sci-fi, conspiracy theory-laden, and infused with the American mythology of the UFO phenomenon). Disney’s 1952, if it is actually about this supposed UFO fly-over of Washington DC, sounds interesting. Personally I wouldn’t mind seeing this type of 1950’s UFO paranoia done up in big budget Hollywood style via Brad Bird. The thing is, could it be that Disney, Lucas, Lindelof, and Bird needed a really good cover story to mask their involvement with brand spanking new Star Wars? I think this could very well be a ruse not unlike the Blue Harvest concept, which was very thorough in covering up the production of Return of the Jedi.

Another factor is that Mark Hamill was born on September 25th of 1951. I'm guessing that since this story will probably have Luke as the Obi-Wan type of mentor as many around the world are suggesting, that it was a cute little Lindelofian trick to throw people by having the fake title be of a year so close to both Luke Skywalker's birthday and the implication of a possible movie connection to the Washington D.C. UFO fly-over. Lindelof and Disney figured it would be a better ruse to switch the year of this fictitious film from 1951 to 1952, so as to steer speculation towards the UFO fly-by concept. 

Oh, and we can’t forget that Qui-Gon, I mean Liam Neeson, was born in 1952. Perhaps a connection, or maybe I’ve watched Aliens too many times and the ping ping ping of the motion tracker has driven me insane?


Again, they're already setting up a whole trilogy that kicks off in 2015, which unless Star Wars Episode 7 is a holiday theatrical release ala Bond or The Hobbit, that leaves only about two-and-a-half years for Disney and the new Kathleen Kennedy captained Lucasfilm to get a script finished to a polished state, put into production, posted (in 3D), and released. For all we know, it is likely that the script has been written and polished and Brad Bird is directing while Lindelof is involved in some capacity as a producer at this point. Pre-production could very well be underway if we look at this current time table of about two years from now as a release date. We're at the end of October 2012. Let's say Star Wars episode 7 is going to be released in the middle of summer, say mid-July. That leaves only two more months for 2012 (minus a couple weeks for all the holiday loss of productivity). Then another 28-30 months if they were to release in mid-July 2015. After all, you’ve got to leave time for prints and marketing and director and writer/producer hyping and interviews). Even if Disney throws money at this, it is not something they will take lightly, as getting Episode 7 drastically wrong will be a huge problem for them and future plans to grow Star Wars into an even bigger cash-eating wormhole, er, I mean fiscally sound investment in intellectual property. 

So I'd say this also could explain how Disney already has the basics worked out in terms of being able to announce Episodes 7-9 and more Star Wars films after those every two to three years apart. I wager that Lindelof sat down with George Lucas months ago after his Prometheus work ended, and hashed out the basic story structure for this new trilogy, and perhaps even some of the ideas for stuff that comes after. Just like he sat alongside Ridley Scott and rewrote John Spaihts' Alien Engineers* script, which became a film many of us talkbackers love to bitch and moan about, Prometheus.

-- Call me LV_426 and Nuke ‘em from orbit, cause it’s the only way to be sure.

Now, first, please don't send me your weird fan theories about what Episode VII will be, or whether this is even true.  Save that for the Talkback!

Second, I'm perfectly fine with Brad Bird helming anything STAR WARS if that comes to pass.  But Damon Lindelof... let's just say that I hope that's not true, or if it is, that he doesn't play that whole mysterious never-answer-a-damn-thing when it comes to STAR WARS.  STAR WARS does raise questions through its plot, this is true, especially after THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK.  But it also DEFINITIVELY answers them and doesn't leave anything vague when it comes to how the stories play out.  Lindelof hasn't definitively answered a question through his work to many people's satisfaction.  ("Hey, Damon, what time is it?" "Hmm.  What time do you THINK it is?")

Again, THIS IS MERELY SPECULATION.  I have no inside knowledge, and I'm certain lv_426 doesn't either.  However, I thought the theory was just too interesting not to at least share with the rest of you.

So, feel free to talk about it below - what comes next for STAR WARS, story-wise?  Has Disney been planning for this for some time now? (I'm sure they have, but I doubt that anything would get out, and certainly not like this).  And just remember - George Lucas gave Disney and Lucasfilm his ideas and his treatment for the next three movies, so the story is already past the simple conception stage.  At this point, Disney and Lucasfilm have to actively be pursuing all possibilities - 2015 isn't THAT far away.

So, knock yorselves out!

Nordling, out.  Follow me on Twitter!

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  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Frist!

    by Brian Hopper

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:35 a.m. CST

    Keep fucking Damon Lindelof away from this!

    by Judge Briggs

    NOOOOOOOOO! NO FUCKING Lindelof!!!!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Frist???

    by chuffsterUK

    Oh dear...

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:36 a.m. CST

    That"Frist"was aimed at m6y :-)

    by chuffsterUK

    He he

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:38 a.m. CST

    JJ Abrams

    by Eric Hines

    Not the guy for this

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Stephen Furst!

    by Brian Hopper

    If you like that better.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:41 a.m. CST

    A New Hope?

    by J

    I admit, the announcement that Disney is now officially master of the Star Wars Universe was a ground-shaking moment. Nerds across the globe spontaneously burst forth in dance and shouts of “YubYub!!” like the hairy, chubby little Ewok SOBs we are. The mantra of ‘Hail! Hail! The Wicked George is….well…not dead…..but….gone?’ continues to ring forth throughout the web and traditional media. It is almost as if we collectively believe that our years of mounting heartbreak and disillusionment with how the franchise was being run into the ground by it’s father/creator reared up like so much force lightning to lay him low, leaving nothing but a feeble, crusty-old white man. (Truly, what IS a Nubian?) Still, although the Honeymoon period of this newly revealed relationship has only begun and we are all vicariously spending our days amongst the tangled sheets and sweaty bodies of the emerging four billion dollar negotiations, it is only a matter of time until reality firmly insinuates itself into this little loveorgy and starts leaving the proverbial bathroom door open. Face it, we are all going to have to take a long hard look at this pairing, no doubt soon to be blessed with some soul-numbing E! News amalganame like ‘DisCas’ or ‘LucNey’, and individually ask ourselves “Is this relationship really going to be good for me?” Personally, my answer is yes, I believe it could be. I do want to make one thing clear though….I am not a hater of George. In fact, I have the utmost respect and understanding for the guy. I know what it’s like. George is like any father. He had a great time at conception. He was floored by the emotional impact of delivery. Doted on it during its infancy. Spent time he didn’t really have holding it in his lap, reading to it and tucking it in with a heartfelt kiss to the forehead during the toddler years. Was proud when he realized that others actually liked it and told him how cute it was and how it would one day grow up to be something incredible. How, being a father actually made him more popular with the women. Then, a sequel. More to love and be proud of. More to show off his virility. A little less time to spend, but he makes the effort and it shows. Although he would never admit it out loud, the second one is his favorite. But, still, it’s getting tough balancing everything. He tries to make time to take them out, push them on the swing and show just how great they are compared to the neighbor’s kids. Then, number three comes along and things begin to slip. There is the money to take care of. Work is really starting to overwhelm and, no matter how much he branches out, he insists on trying to take care of everything himself. He realizes that outside forces have taken over raising his little ones, who aren’t so little any more. His own influence is rapidly slipping away and, even though it is obvious that this may not be a bad thing, he puts his foot down and tries to regain control. He pulls them to his chest, makes what he considers necessary ‘advancements’ and ‘improvements’ that were not available when they took their first steps, and turns them back out into the world for all to see. He is crushed when Child Protective Services shows up at his door and informs him that, if he doesn’t watch his ass, they will be taken away from him for their own good. He thinks long and hard about it and decides to put his efforts into starting a new family. He brings forth into the world a fresh new baby. One with a cherub’s face, but all too obvious dark ties to its older siblings. To compensate, he insists on having it wear that demented pink bunny costume with the floppy ears, just to try and please everyone. It doesn’t work. He tries again. This time, he makes sure to add a little sugar and spice and delivers his first female offspring, full of gooey love and romps through tall grass amongst giant ticks. She is received a little more favorably, but he realizes that dealing with a daughter’s particular needs is much more tricky and decides to rush out another newborn. One that will hopefully make up for any questions as to his masculinity. A desire that, as it often does, leads to unnecessary overcompensation. His newest gift to the world turns out to be a full-blown bully replete with deep-rooted self esteem issues and a lack of willpower leading to self-abuse, rebellious behavior, falling in with the wrong crowd and culminating in unwarranted violence and unrequited love. He realizes his mistake too late and is left to face the fact that, although his intentions may have always been pure and his actions based on love, he still wound up with a brood of thoroughly fucked-up children. Children that we all, as a society, must now contend with. Love ‘em too much, or Love ‘em not enough, Dote on ‘em or flat out Ignore ‘em, they’re still gonna wind up broken. That’s just the way it is. To me, George did the only honorable thing he could do at this point. He admitted that he could not do anything more for them, much as he loves them all, and he turned the task of recovery and further positive growth over to the one person who has both the means and the desire to do what is best in everyone’s interest – Uncle Walt. Sure, there are those pesky, yet persistent rumors that The W was possibly a Nazi and that the only way he really liked children was crispy and with a side of bleu cheese dressing. But that is the past, and surely has no bearing on the heritage he left behind. Of course, the point could well be made that Disney has become the Walmart of the entertainment world. It may even be fair to say that any further decisions for George’s beloved family will be made based much more on the proposition of how much money can be made than on one man’s personal desire to create an upstanding and productive citizen, but is there really any difference between the two? When, exactly, are we forced to admit that, through all of the love and all of the heartache and all of the effort we put into raising our children, it is with an understanding that they will, in turn, provide for us when we are old and drooling with arthritic hands and a load of crap in our pants? This is simply how the world turns. And I believe that Disney, who has already had many years of close collaboration with GL and his many offspring, will do right by us all. They may do it for different reasons, but I am confident that, in the end, a new light will be shone upon this particular universe. One that will confidently show us the wonders yet to be seen and rekindle the brightness the world first perceived on that fine spring day, a long time ago (in 1977). Just Sayin'

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:42 a.m. CST

    I dont doubt Luke's Return, But this is Tin Foil Hat Shit

    by doom master

    WTF, man...whatever Star Wars these folks create will obviously have nothing to do with the Empire, and if it does, it surely won't be Darth Vader, or any of the old cast...Save maybe the droids. Really, I have no idea WHAT these guys are going to tell storywise, but its probably best if people stop rustling their jimmies over it - the plate is too big to think what could be done....

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Oh now, there is a problem with who is doing.

    by shutupfanboy

    You fanboys wanted Lucas out now you are going to get someone worse. I am not sold on Bird either by the way.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Lens flares in Star Wars = ass in seat! :P

    by MrMysteryGuest

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:45 a.m. CST

    1952 1+9+5+2=VII

    by dave

    1952 1+9+5+2=VII

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Tin foil

    by Kevin

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Lindelof's twitter quotes...

    by Tiredtot

    My twitter feed: 38% : "You should write the new Star Wars!" 47% : "Don't fucking touch the new Star Wars!" 15% : Undecided.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:48 a.m. CST

    1952 is now called TESLA

    by Green

    FYI

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Lindelof - Lost then Prometheus now...

    by The Reef

    ruining the end of the Star Wars Nonet with more vague plotless musings about faith, evolution and the perception of reality. Star Wars it the WWII French Resitance - King Arthur and Merlin - The Battle Of Britain - spaceship fetishism and good old fashioned saturday morning cinema story telling. Force the film makers to make it without CGI - an in camera, lo-fi, Trumbull style extravaganza of filmmaking skill. And run that Damon out of town for at least 7 years until the job is done. But if we get rid of him from this, he'll only appear on Ridley's Bladerunner remake / sequel / whatever ...

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Lindelof's twitter quotes...

    by Tiredtot

    My twitter feed: 38% : "You should write the new Star Wars!" 47% : "Don't fucking touch the new Star Wars!" 15% : Undecided.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:49 a.m. CST

    I believe Luke will return. Go back in history...

    by planetran_fan

    ...I seem to remember reading back in the 70's or 80's (maybe in the TIME magazine Star Wars people under 30 edition or the one with the cubist cover of Vader's helmet???) that Lucas committed the three stars (Mark, Carrie, and Harrison) to a post year 2000 movie, where they would play older versions of the characters in the third trilogy. Makes sense to kick off a new trilogy to have Luke leading a resurgence of Jedi Knights. I could do without Carrie and Harrison though. Ford has always disrespected Han Solo IMHO.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:50 a.m. CST

    Lindelof's twitter quotes...

    by Tiredtot

    After saying how shocked about the Disney buyout, he next tweeted... My twitter feed: 38% : "You should write the new Star Wars!" 47% : "Don't fucking touch the new Star Wars!" 15% : Undecided. ...Now, why would he even bring that up? Its seems like he has a big ego to even mention himself writing Star Wars, and to make a joke of himself writing Star Wars and all the hate he would get is even stranger. Then he tweets... Chewbacca's great-great grandson is named Drewbacca and he must overcome his allergies to lasers and meat. #IdeasForEpisodeVII Yoda's Ghost gets annoyed by Obi-Wan's Ghost (too much whining) and they fight with Ghostsabers. #IdeasForEpisodeVII ...are these jokey tweets now placed to throw us off from his writing tweets?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:50 a.m. CST

    Of course they need Lindelof

    by Mr Lucas

    in order to come up with dialogue on a par with George's "you can write this shit but you can't say it" standard of awful dialogue. If the schoolboy standard of Prometheus is anything to go by he'll do fine, just fine.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:51 a.m. CST

    Aside from their lack of talent, the worst thing about

    by Brian Hopper

    that Abrams/Lindelof/Orci/Kurtzman crew is, it's always all about them. Look at Star Trek. Now that they've ruined it and sit atop the rubble, Trek fans are forced to look at the 45-year history of that distinguished franchise through the lens they provide. God help us if they get their selfish, untalented mitts on Star Wars.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:51 a.m. CST

    Why can't you use quotation marks here?

    by Tiredtot

    My quotes blocked posts made me look like a dunderhead!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:51 a.m. CST

    Thanks for making it clear that this is only speculation

    by Shankapotomus

    After using hard science like Mark Hamill and Liam Neeson's birthdays as clues, I thought we could go ahead and put this in the fact column. Seriously? Star Wars continues to make talk-backers insane.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:51 a.m. CST

    No way Abrams takes this on after doing Star Trek.

    by notcher

    I could see Lindelhof although he doesn't excite me at all, but JJ isn't going near this one. I'll be anxious to hear about who comes aboard...the starship!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:52 a.m. CST

    pieman67

    by Stale Elvis

    1952 1 + 9 + 5 + 2 = XVII Fucking idiot.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:52 a.m. CST

    This affects us all..

    by UltraTron

    http://www.wtsp.com/news/watercooler/article/280396/58/Friendship-money-greed-meet-in-fantasy-card-game-Magic

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST

    1952

    by MJAYACE

    19: Episodes 1-9 5+2: Episode 7 5+2+1: Episode 8 9 : Episode 9 9-5-12: Date Turkey neck made the final call on Disney giving him the cash. 52: George's waist size 1952: Jabba's waist size 1952: AIEB (spelled in reverse is BEIA which is Michael Bay's first letter of last name + Leia minus the L) I love conspiracy theories. Does it really matter? Its Star Wars on the big screen. Those who's asses will be in the seat will be there no matter what and those who will find something to bitch about will still see it. I am happy regardless, even with the faults of the prequels. It means lightsabers on the F'ing big screen and not those dumb ass Youtube videos where geeks (here's looking at you dorkman) do an amazing job with the effects and choreography, yet wear street clothes.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Let me go ahead and call it now...

    by KabutoKoji

    Stephen Amell (the main actor from the CW TV Show Arrow) as Luke Skywalker, Josh Duhamel (Fergi's husband) as Han Solo and Maggie Grace(Lost, Taken) as Princess Leia. No other known actors resemble the originals as this trio, properly and professionally made up, of course, in order for them to resemble the originals even more. Hell, Amell even has that mole under his lip in the same exact place where Mark Hamill has his!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST

    That would explain the UFO connection with 1952...maybe.

    by planetran_fan

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST

    That would explain the UFO connection with 1952...maybe.

    by planetran_fan

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:55 a.m. CST

    @ pieman67

    by Ray Tchoulakian

    Uhh...1+9+5+2 = 17, not 7 From the moment word broke of Episode VII coming in 2015, Brad Bird was the first guy I thought of to direct it. I'd love to see his vision of Star Wars. As for Lindelof, I enjoyed Prometheus, but was very disappointed with how Lost had ended. I'd much rather see someone like Lawrence Kasdan be brought back to write it if he's interested. If not, then Michael France or John Logan.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Stop bitching about Lidelof and praise you some Brad Bird

    by BackwardGalaxy

    Seriously. Am I the only one who sees that Brad Bird could potentially be involved in Star Wars and hitting the freaking roof?

  • I liked GHOST PROTOCOL well enough, but let's all just calm down.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9 a.m. CST

    RE: recasting previous characters

    by Ray Tchoulakian

    Why bother with recasting characters from the original trilogy to have them be around the same age as they were 30+ years ago? I like the idea of having this new trilogy take place decades after the Death Star blew up, and Luke is the age of Old Ben Kenobi. Luke leads the new Jedi council, and an entire new generation of Jedi now police the Republic. I don't see the purpose of making sure all the original trilogy's characters come back as fan services, especially since Lucas made every effort to do that with the prequels and that failed miserably.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:01 a.m. CST

    This is the saddest story AICN has ever posted.

    by brokentusk

    Mark Hamill was born in 1951? Liam Neeson was born in 1952? REALLY? Also, the film is called 1906, not 1952 (according to IMDB). What a waste of time.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Not a

    by YourMomsBox3D

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Demon Lindelof to semi-pretend to explain Midichlorians!

    by buggerbugger

    And I, for one, can't fucking wait! It will be hilarious! And, somehow, linked to Jesus.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Please please please...

    by Stale Elvis

    ...please go back to filming on physical sets. No more green screen bullshit. Give the actors something tangible to work with.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Lindelof = DO NOT WANT

    by Rob

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:03 a.m. CST

    kabutokoji

    by brokentusk

    There is no way in HELL any of those people will be cast.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:03 a.m. CST

    1906 was a previous Brad Bird project...1952 was announced in May.

    by blackmantis

  • Lindelof is a far superior writer than George Lucas (I'll give the man conception props, but that's about it), and Brad Bird is a much more competent director than Sir George as well. If this story was remotely true, you'd think you Star Wars nerds would be fapping into your Han Solo undies.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Star Wars Toy Story

    by mraig

    So yeah, we'll get new big Star Wars projects, but imagine this: <p> It's a spinoff that takes place in the Toy Story Universe. It's about a kid down the street who has mostly Star Wars toys. Think about it. <p> You cast the original voice actors to play action figures of Luke, Leia, Han, Vader, Yoda, R2, C3PO, whoever you can get (I guess realistically the prequels too...). But you can play the toy versions of these characters in new ways. Maybe the Luke toy is vain and into his looks and popularity. Maybe the Darth Vader toy is an obsessive worrier with OCD. Because it both is and isn't the original characters, there is a ton of playing they could do to create a unique but familiar set of characters for the show. <p> The format would be a jumping off point for Toy Story-esque plots, but with a ton of Star Wars visuals and in-jokes. Plus you get to have a little kid's room with Star Wars shit everywhere, which is such an image from everybody's childhood. <p> DISNEY I'VE GOT MORE WHERE THAT CAME FROM (Okay fine, it's Avengers Toy Story, but come on!)

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:04 a.m. CST

    re: "1952 is now called TESLA"

    by buggerbugger

    The Empire Strikes Long Ago! See, see, it all makes sense!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Star Wars

    by DirtyWookie

    I love Star Wars!!!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Lindelof regrets that he can't ruin Star Wars cause Georgie already did.

    by Scott Sullivan

    Episodes 1-3 are terrible, and 4-6 are impossible to watch with all the changes. If Disney had anything on the ball they would release the original, untouched trilogy in the best possible quality in 2015 to coincide with this new shitpile.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:08 a.m. CST

    All the speculation is ridiculous

    by Horrorfanatic

    I haven't waded through the thousands of talkbacks (literally), but what I have noticed is a conspicuous absence of the fact that Disney has been doing Star Wars since they opened "Star Tours". They did a decent job with that, and the update to the ride is even better. So, based on the e-mailer's speculation, they already have all the elements in place...ride, mechandising, and even the shows. Not to mention the yearly Star Wars weekends. This is not a ground up project for Disney. At worst, they would need to rework some areas and make it more of a Star Wars themed area. Considering Disney's treatment of the Star Wars franchise up to this point, I don't see it as a bad thing. Are they in it for the money...of course, they are a FOR PROFIT company. That doesn't mean anything is going to be ruined. We can choose to speculate all we want, but I believe the one thing we can all agree on is all we really want out of this arrangement is some quality entertainment. I think that has been sorely lacking from the franchise for a very long time, and I truly believe Disney is capable of giving us this if they treat it with the respect they have thus far.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:08 a.m. CST

    I still say...

    by Sean1701

    get Joseph Kosinski (Tron:Legacy). He's the right man for the job. His work on Tron shows that he has an eye for scope and effects. He also showed a lot of respect for the original Tron (1982).

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:11 a.m. CST

    1952 is NOT Star Wars

    by garp

    1952 is written by Lindelof and EW writer Jeff "Doc" Jensen. they wouldn't let first time writer jensen anywhere near this. also, there's an interview with mark hamill on EW.com. he's definitely coming back, if you read between the lines. http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/10/31/mark-hamill-star-wars-episode-vii-disney/

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:11 a.m. CST

    fan-favorite film writer Damon Lindelof-That's a joke right?

    by Samuel Fulmer

    His script was the worst thing about Prometheus. I actually liked the film, in spite of the terrible script.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Alfonso Cuaron sipping coffee with Kathleen Kennedy?

    by stlfilmwire

    Where have you seen that!?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Have you guys seen Mark Hamill lately?

    by DreamIsOver

    He looks more likely to moleste younglings than mentor them.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Hamill born in 1951, this is called 1952 as a reference

    by Samuel Fulmer

    WHAT??????? Wouldn't it be called 1951 then!

  • Too soon?

  • seriously guys. Alien was fucked. Prometheus, no matter how many problems you find with it was infinitely better than all of the efforts since Cameron's film. It had seriously gotten retarded. I mean did anybody who hates Prometheus even see AVP or AVPR? jesus christ those were bad. Same thing with Star Trek. Nemesis was so bad I thought I'd never watch Star Trek again. I didn't see the point. They didn't ruin these franchises. they SAVED them. We're gonna get a Prometheus 2. We're gonna get another watchable Trek movie. These are great things. Abrams and Lindelof could do this to Star Wars. Star Wars is currently a shit-crusted remnant of its former greatness. Just like Alien was. Just like Star Trek was.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:14 a.m. CST

    These are the kind of stories that made AICN

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Glad to see this hilarious horsecrap of a story, just like the old days with Grando and 95 % of Phantom Menace being ruined because it was blurry. Beats articles about free movie screenings in towns I don't live in or interviews with pro wrestlers.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:18 a.m. CST

    First scene should be ...

    by Behemoth

    ... a grizzled Han Solo talking about his "glory days" to some young wannabe saying, "One of Jabba's henchmen cornered me in a cantina once. Name was Greedo. I fried his ass before he could even reach for his blaster. Always keep your hands under the table kid. And always keep a blaster in your boot."

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Yoda...

    by Stale Elvis

    ...will be played by Charlton Heston. You read it here first folks. In 1998.

  • will stay the fuck away from STAR WARS. They already ruined Alienverse and Star Trek, i don't want killing the chance for the return of the SW series back to the greatness they used to be.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:20 a.m. CST

    They need a director who's a proven commodity handling

    by Brian Hopper

    super-large budget and fx-laden films, and who can shepherd a beloved franchise past all the potential pitfalls (honoring the pedigree of the films while doing something new, keeping the fanboys happy, etc.) while taking on a three-year commitment. It is a VERY short list of people who can handle all that. When you put aside the obvious ones who could do it but won't (Spielberg), it's even shorter. Two names from the past who could absolutely handle it and I'm surprised haven't been mentioned more are Ron Howard and Robert Zemeckis. I think Disney's obvious choice is Gore Verbinski. They love that guy, and he could do it. But Brad Bird and Joss Whedon also fit the bill. Holding out hope for Cuaron.

  • You're lying, you'll watch it and THEN come here and start your rants

  • they could make carrie fisher skinny again like they did with ray winstone

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Ah yes, Grando and his Black lightsaber

    by durhay

  • You have to figure these wheels have been in motion for at LEAST several months, if not longer. You don't broker a $4 billion deal overnight.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Sounds like a live action version of The Incredibles

    by Ingeld

    1952. The setting of the Incredibles seems retro to that era. Team based super hero movies are making millions. Disney has a history of turning their animated films into live action--101 Dalmatians. They think it will be big.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:31 a.m. CST

    The Opening Crawl

    by vadakinX

    I threw this together last night. It's a little rough but it could be an idea of how a Disney Star Wars might open. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R7S3dPCTX8 Thoughts?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:34 a.m. CST

    I'm directing ep7 and it's called...

    by nephilim138

    "Rise of the Jedi" and it's about a new generation of Jedi under the guidance of Luke that have to band together to stop the new Empire. Now give me a headline on this site!

  • Because scripts can be rewritten. I would much rather have an awesome director and average(at best) writer than vice versa.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:36 a.m. CST

    R2D2 + C3PO = RC5-DPO - if you add the inverse value of the letters.....

    by I_Snake_Plissken

    Maybe you just get a random number that nobody but a bunch of dorks are putting too much thought into.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Talk about ready way to much into it.

    by eric haislar

    I think he is over analyzing it.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:38 a.m. CST

    And to those that want Nolan

    by Samuel Fulmer

    This is going to be in 3-D (per the press release) and I assume shot digitally, two thing Nolan is against doing.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Snagglepuss Cameo-I hope so

    by Samuel Fulmer

    And throw in Huckleberry Hound and Top Cat too!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:41 a.m. CST

    I would hope they already have a writer and director in place

    by Samuel Fulmer

    If this is going to come out in 2015 as some kind of new trilogy.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:41 a.m. CST

    I don't get it ... What's wrong with Prometheus

    by Halloween68

    I liked Prometheus. Thought it was the best Alien picture since the first one. I personally like Alien as a horror movie. Not an action adventure franchise. While Prometheus is not horror, it certainly ties together with the original film more than the sequels do.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:41 a.m. CST

    Bitching about Brad Bird...

    by vanchimera

    I think it's funny when you see people bitch about Brad Bird having only directed one live action movie when the last three SW flicks have had more cg than live action in them... and the only decent Star Wars entertainment we've gotten in about a decade has been animated. Also factoring in that animation is actually more difficult to direct in many ways, so Star Wars, being such a blend of the two would be right up his alley. Ultimately, I feel as if Brad Bird would be just fine for this as long as he's got the team to support him. Anyone who's directed The Incredibles AND The Iron motherfucking Giant can direct anything he wants in my books.

  • brad bird aint all that. MI4 was okay but not amazing.

  • You guys can figure out the rest from there.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:47 a.m. CST

    @ brokentusk

    by Ray Tchoulakian

    Yes, Brad Bird has directed one live action film to date, but he's also directed several animated films as well. But before you get all worried about Bird's experience as a director, Irvin Kershner had directed 8 films prior to doing The Empire Strikes Back, including a film called Loving. I'd hardly call that a resume of extensive experience compared to Bird's.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:48 a.m. CST

    I love this speculation shit.....

    by Righteous Brother

    we're in for an exciting couple of years, probably up until the film opens.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Can't we just get Kasdan back?

    by The Funketeer

    Do we really want the guy who wrote Prometheus ruining another of our favorite franchises?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Targzissians are *OBVIOUSLY* reptilian...

    by Adam D. Kline

    ... and things of this nature. You understand!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher

    by percane

    here's some more conspiracy theorizing: in that EW interview (thanks for that link!) Mark Hamill says that he and Fisher had lunch with Lucas LAST SUMMER and that he told them about his plans to make 7-9. this past year, Carrie Fisher has become a Jenny Craig spokesperson http://yourlife.usatoday.com/fitness-food/diet-nutrition/story/2011-08-24/Back-in-the-bikini-Carrie-Fisher-drops-50-pounds-with-Jenny-Craig/50126364/1 coincidence, or did George ask her to be in Star Wars again and she has to look more princess-ish?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:51 a.m. CST

    No we don't need Kasdan

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Look, he was the right choice back in 1979-83, but have you seen his output of recent years? I don't think we need Darling Companion in space!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:54 a.m. CST

    BRAD BIRD - FUCK YES, DAMON LINDELOF - NO WAY...

    by SeXX ED

    ... EDGAR WRIGHT or fuck 'em in their mouse ear.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Inside Information

    by Horrorfanatic

    On a semi-unrelated note, I have news that this website is changing its name to Ain't it Star Wars news. They considered renaming it Ain't it Star Wars Speculation, but it didn't sound quite as official.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Needs Luke

    by Jon Serianni

    Ep VII needs Luke just so they can have Mark Hamill tell whatever Jedi he is training that you "don't fuck with the Jedi Master, son" as he did in Jay and Silent Bob Strikes Back.

  • I think this is all bullcrap, but Disney really does need to go to Bird and offer him whatever he needs to kick this off. MI4 proved the man can do live action extremely well, it also further proved he is a modern master.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:03 a.m. CST

    lv_426 does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Damn you lv_426 - you were meant to send this AFTER I had put my bet on Brad Bird at the bookies... AFTER!!!!!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Carrie Fisher 'Princess-ish'???

    by J

    Have you seen her lately (like on the Rosanne Roast)? She looks and sounds like she's been ridden hard for 5,000 parsecs and put away wet...that kind of life experience can't be remedied no matter how much Jenny Craig she sponsors or Botox she ingests.... Just sayin'

  • Finally someone sees the light. I'm so very tired of hearing people go on and on about how perfect Pixar's films have been. The Incredibles was a dead-spot, long before Cars ever existed.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Some bookies are already taking bets on recasting: Who will play Princess Leia: 5/2 Emma Stone; 4/1 Anne Hathaay; 4/1 Mae Whitman; 5/1 Carey Mulligan; 7/1 Anna Kendrick; 7/1 Michelle Trachtenberg; 10/1 Mila Kunis; 12/1 Amy Adams; 12/1 Miley Cyrus; 16/1 Carrie Fisher Who will play Luke Skywalker: 2/1 Zac Effron; 5/2 Topher Grace; 7/2 Spencer Treat Clark; 6/1 Joseph Gordon Levitt; 8/1 Jamie Bell; 8/1 Shia Lebeouf; 10/1 Seann William Scott; 12/1 Daryl Sabara Who will play Han Solo: 6/4 Ryan Reynolds; 9/4 Sam Rockwell; 9/4 Taylor Kitsch; 7/1 Robert Downey Jr; 8/1 Gael Garcia Bernal; 12/1 Harrison Ford

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST

    preach it gruntybear

    by Stephen

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:14 a.m. CST

    1 + 9 + 0 + 6...

    by Sulis

    Add the components of 1906 and you get 16. Add those components and you get...

  • It was entertaining, wonderful to look at, and Michael Fassbender was awesome, but the script was a laughable wreck.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:15 a.m. CST

    The Incredibles is the best Pixar movie. Fact!

    by Brian Hopper

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Gruntybear, does it hurt to be so wrong?

    by MrWug

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:17 a.m. CST

    STAR WARS IS 99% ANIMATED ANYWAY. GO BRAD BIRD!

    by Darth Busey

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:18 a.m. CST

    The general awesomeness of Carrie Fisher, not to mention

    by Brian Hopper

    the awesomeness of her bouncing boobs in Star Wars and metal bikini in ROTJ, needs no defense.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:18 a.m. CST

    I'm a little torn

    by Wcwlkr

    While I didn't hate the prequels I loved the original Star Wars. And I can't help but be excited at the possibilities a new trilogy presents, but also be very leery. I love Brad Bird so if he's involved this would be great. But yeah I'm not too sure about Lindelof, I'm still enraged by Lost. So yeah I'm definitely torn by all of this.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Have you all seen Mark Hamill lately? Seriously?

    by JGer

    Go IMDB him and check out the first snapshot of him from ComicCon. Do you really want to see him dressed up in a Jedi Robes? I almost wanted to cry seeing Harrison Ford's Shar-Pei puppy face in Crystal Skull, and he looks like a teenager compared to Hamill. Please set these 100 years after Jedi. Thank you.

  • You must be joking.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Just make sure there's at least one 'everyman' character

    by performingmonkey

    The prequels didn't work partly because of this. You don't feel you want to root for any of the characters, not even Obi-Wan, who acts like a complete tool most of the time, and he's this aloof Jedi who you can't relate to anyway. It all went wrong when Lucas went for Anakin as a little boy. He should've been 16 and Owen Lars should have been a much more major character.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:22 a.m. CST

    1952

    by ObiBen

    Will be a Star Wars / Indiana Jones crossover that ties in directly to Crystal Skull. Starring Harrison Ford in his first dual role as grumpy Indy and grumpy Solo bantering across the galaxy in a desperate race to save the known universe. Co-Starring Shia LaBeouf as the new Jedi apprentice and Snoop Dog as Darth Vader.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Do I really want to see Mark Hamill dressed up in Jedi robes? Yes!

    by Brian Hopper

    The general awesomeness of Mark Hamill is another thing that needs no defense.

  • upon repeat viewing I think its okay. not good. 2 I barely remember. 3 looked so bad i havent bothered to watch it.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Live action TV series announced!

    by Chariowalda_Barbarossa

    "Jedi High" will premiere on Disney Channel next fall. Carrie Fisher confirmed as Headmistress Leia. Two all new musical numbers per episode. Talented young actresses and actors to play the Padawans at the Academy of the New Jedi Order are being cloned as we speak.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:25 a.m. CST

    jger

    by eric haislar

    Hamill is a little over weight, but you can fix that with a personal trainer. He only needs to loose 25 to 30 pounds. His age does not matter Alec Guinness was 62 when he was in Star wars. Luke has to come back of all of the original cast he is the one that makes the most sense.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:26 a.m. CST

    just learn to google....

    by grammaton

    then everybody would know that 1952 was related to one of the WED boxes placed in the last corner of disneys storages and with all speculations i just wonder nobody mentioned rick mccallum.....he is born 1952...but it seems easier to add one year to hamils birthyear...... oh boy

  • Luke on the other hand should be the Obi-Wan, obviously, but don't Qui-Gon him off. Save him for the whole trilogy. And Han, well... I think give him a fan friendly cameo in VII, expand his role in VIII and then let him finally have him sacrifice himself for his friends like he was supposed to in Jedi. (Think Sam Jackson's screen time throughout the PT.)

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:28 a.m. CST

    An appearance by Luke Skywalker in Episode 7 is required. Fact!

    by Brian Hopper

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Well, "okay" is better than bad, so I'll take it.

    by MrWug

    But 2 is better than the first, and 3 is even better than than that. I can't imagine someone thinking 3 is bad.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Where were you in 62? (50th Anniversary)

    by K3nn3th

    Wasn't that the slogan for American Graffiti when they marketed the movie. If anything that year would refer more to American Graffiti than any other movie. This is the 50th Anniversary of that slogan. I'm just saying. But also what if some of that so called live TV show stuff was actually stuff really being filmed and scripted for these new movies. It would have been easy to say it was for a tv show. Just wanted to put that out there.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:30 a.m. CST

    You Guys Got To Poor Damon

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    Damon Lindelof ‏@DamonLindelof If I ever need a suicide note, I'll just print out this comments section. http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59411 yes it's a link to this talkback lol

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Amen, @darth busey

    by Jared Bond

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Don't do it, Damon!

    by MrWug

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Please don't compare Mark Hamill to Alec Guinness

    by JGer

    His last two live action movies are Sushi Girl and Airborne. He is about an inch away from being in Meagshark vs. SuperCobra. No doubt he is UNREAL as a voiceover star, but come on.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:34 a.m. CST

    wait who here is secretly Lindelof REVEAL YOURSELF

    by Stephen

    i want your autograph on this prometheus blu ray that someone else threw away

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST

    booger_t -Hey I agree but Star Wars rumors/news built this site

    by Samuel Fulmer

    And to be honest, it's the only thing that'll keep it going.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Ryan Gosling

    by Eric Hines

    Think he could play a great han solo type character. I've really grown to like him (no homo), think he could bring great charisma to a similar role

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Mark Hamill

    by Righteous Brother

    Nothing 6 months down the gym, and a decent jedi beard couldn't fix. Would love to see him back as Skywalker in a mentor type role - but its not essential. FUCK - WE'RE GETTING MORE STAR WARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:39 a.m. CST

    I don't know it might not be that bad

    by CherryValance

    I mean if he doesn't make a mystery out of it. If it's just a story about Jedi or eyeless baby Ewoks or something else. Something completely creative would be fine. If he tries to say something with it or Scooby Doo us again then he'll have the same problems. No story where the Jedi are descendent from Christ or some shit like that.

  • Oh crap... There is an angry white-haired man in flannel at my front door. He has some storm troopers with him...

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Forget Episode VII, reboot episode VI

    by Snookeroo

    Because that was a really shitty wrap-up.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:42 a.m. CST

    @snookeroo

    by Eric Hines

    but WAS it a wrap up? If VII is a direct sequel, then it was not, thus making a remake unnecessary

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Whoever directs it will have to be hired soon

    by seasider

    The movie will have to starting shooting in 2013 at the latest to make the 2015 release. Even with all CGI technology and digital cameras, the prequels were always at a race to the finish line to get completed. I think someone is reading too much into this Brad Bird rumor.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:43 a.m. CST

    I love ya, LV, but I think it's just as likely to be Incredibles 2

    by AlienFanatic

    I've already read articles that have averred that no directors are attached right now, period. I've also got massive doubts that, after how Prometheus was received by its fans, a studio would look to Lindelof to reboot a franchise with so much riding on getting the canon down just right. Another ding against it is that the May announcement would have Lindelof producing and, frankly, the guy has NEVER produced anything near the scale of a Star Wars movie. I just don't think he's capable of it and Disney would want a steady hand at the helm for such a key franchise. No, I think that no matter how many acrobatics you perform with the date, it just doesn't make sense in the scheme of things and how risk-averse Hollywood is with key properties. I may well be wrong, but I think we'll hear something firm by the beginning of 2013, since filming will have to begin by the middle to the end of the year. My guess is also that the 2015 date isn't set in stone yet and may slip depending upon what it takes to ramp up production. If you're right, though, we'll all gladly give you a round of applause.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Peter Jackson for Star Wars!

    by rob33

    I know it's wishful thinking, and given that everyone on here now (apparently) hates LOTR but I would kill to see Peter Jackson direct the new trilogy

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Ryan Gosling unexpectantly drops out of Logans Run

    by Eric Hines

    But why? No reason was given. Willing to bet the farm he is in ep. 7

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:45 a.m. CST

    1952 could be SW

    by bobbofatz

    1+9-5+2=VII I hope the new SW has Luke and Leias kids growing up together as close cousins. Leia and Hans kid starts drifting to the Gray side of the force. Not evil at all, just into other things besides Yoda to Obi to Lukes beliefs of how the universe works.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:46 a.m. CST

    LINDELOF

    by eric haislar

    I like your work as well. I have to confess I did not love Prometheus, it was alright, I would like to see again. But whatever Spielberg made Always and Hook. If you are behind these new films. Forget everything about the prequels. You grew in the 80's on star wars like us. You know what needs to be done.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Jedi Shia Le Boeuf. You can`t escape the inevitability.

    by higgledyhiggles

  • That's number 1. So shut the hell up!!! Number 2: Since when does everyone hate Abrahms Star Trek? What the hell do you people like? I thought it was incredible, and great reboot, especially for someone who isn't some fat chubby Trekky. I think our world would be infinitely better without some of these insane Trekkers, when is the Sci-Fi nerd rapture gonna come and sweep all this mounds of pasty white vagina puddings away. Please Jeebus, do this now!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:48 a.m. CST

    I didn't even see the other comments

    by CherryValance

    about him linking it to Jesus. lol It's bad that we all thought it.

  • No, and I don't think Iger would either. Iger's no dummy.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:50 a.m. CST

    So let me get this straight...

    by Executor

    Damon Lindelof wrote a spec Star Wars script, Brad Bird was attached, then they sold it to Disney, who then realized -- oops -- they needed the rights to Star Wars so they subsequently bargained with Lucas to sell his Lucasfilm for 4 billion. OK.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Lindeloff would be fine

    by Mel Gibsteinberg

    There were truly excellent episodes of LOST, up to the very end which didn't land as well as we had hoped. But remember, a lot of that blame can be put on Carlton Cuse, and even JJ for that matter as he's the one who opened the door to all this nonsense. Star Wars isn't a mystery or conspiracy type franchise, so DL would simply have to stay within those confines and he'd be fine. Some of you people who no original thoughts in your head whatsoever.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:51 a.m. CST

    higgledyhiggles - How DARE you...

    by ObiBen

    ...spell LeBoeuf correctly? It's LaBeouf, in proper Hollywood spaced out hippie spelling, damnit!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Shia LaBeouf

    by Eric Hines

    seems like the kind of person who simply assumes he will be in this. He is probably sitting by the phone right now. I hope he isn't

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Hey, erichaislar...

    by Mikey Wood

    ...ALWAYS was great. Don't you badmouth ALWAYS you horrible little man. ; )

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Ohhhh, wait, Lindeloff wrote Cowboys & Aliens

    by Mel Gibsteinberg

    Oh god, never mind, retract! KILL THIS MAN NOW! Okay, not really, but that truly was a horrible piece of shite. But where's the hate for Favraeu on that as well? How about Andrew Stanton writes it, Brad Bird directs it, and John Lasseter produces. BOOM! Instant success. It would meet both the fan criteria, as well as the family criteria that Disney wants (PG not PG-13) and it would still be a great flick.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:54 a.m. CST

    theres gonna be like 8 or 9 writers

    by Stephen

    one to come up with new aliens, one to come up with new planets and the histories of them, one to write the plot, one to rewrite the plot, one to write the dialogue, one to throw that dialogue out and replace it with new dialogue, one to make the whole story fit into the existing universe, and one to put his name on it cuz nobody else is famous enough.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Good One.

    by Chadley BeBay

    Second, I'm perfectly fine with Brad Bird helming anything STAR WARS if that comes to pass. But Damon Lindelof... let's just say that I hope that's not true, or if it is, that he doesn't play that whole mysterious never-answer-a-damn-thing when it comes to STAR WARS. STAR WARS does raise questions through its plot, this is true, especially after THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. But it also DEFINITIVELY answers them and doesn't leave anything vague when it comes to how the stories play out. Lindelof hasn't definitively answered a question through his work to many people's satisfaction. ("Hey, Damon, what time is it?" "Hmm. What time do you THINK it is?") THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING IVE EVER READ. GOOD ONE.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:57 a.m. CST

    lv_426, you ruined my birthday, and it's still morning.

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    Not your intent, but goddamn, I'm a sensitive person.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11 a.m. CST

    UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES KILL OFF HAN SOLO OR LUKE SKYWALKER!!!

    by DARTH VOODOO

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11 a.m. CST

    Luke Skywalker in ep. 7

    by Eric Hines

    I agree it would be awesome. But everyone is saying no to harrison ford and carrie fisher because they haven't aged well - How can you have luke and not those two? How would they explain their absence in the movie?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11 a.m. CST

    Josh Brolin for a Han Solo type....

    by Righteous Brother

    Ryan Gosling for a Jedi. and Garret Hedlund as the son of Luke Skywalker.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:01 a.m. CST

    No executor, do you know anything about business? How old are you?

    by Mel Gibsteinberg

    The Disney purchasing Lucasfilm deal would have been in diligence for quite some time. First Lucas would have floated the idea to Disney, then Disney and Lucas would have to go through this in depth process of signing NDAs (non-disclosure agreements) and other legal mumbo-jumbo. Then Disney would make some non-binding offer just to get their foot in the door. AND THEN their lawyers would comb over every single property, intellectual or physical, to determine how best to value the proposed acquisition. During this time, as the deal got closer, they would start up an engine of creative folk working on something to get this machine in motion once the purchase is finalized. So they'd have 1 or even multiple teams of folks working on spec scripts, based on the "treatments" that they would have access to through some data room or as part of the diligence review they did. All this would take months before it would finally be consummated. They would only announce this publicly, and to investors, once everything was inked. Disney wants to see their stocks soar, so coming in with a commitment to a movie coming out in 2015 is a big deal. If they have to delay this cause they aren't "ready" they stand to lose big in front of the investor community, something the Mouse House won't do.

  • Star Wars is, at its best, character-driven drama. For the majority, Empire remains the very best of the films and for one great reason: it was directed by a man who knew how to pull great performances out of his actors. The movie had great effects and action sequences, for sure, but some of the best moments were the dramatic ones. I don't want to see some fanboy write the next movie. I don't want to see someone who's known for big, eye-filling spectacle (*cough* Michael Bay *cough*) to direct. I want people that can do what George couldn't and really bring the characters to life while placing them within an envelope of believable drama and realistic effects. In short, I don't think fans need more eye candy and an endless array of action figures. I think they want to see a return to the type of gritty action adventure that Empire represented. I don't think it will happen, but I'd give my eye teeth for Darabont to get a shot at it. I think the guy KNOWS this stuff and has an incredible history of writing and directing realistic, human drama. He can take Lucas's outline and breathe life into it, I'm certain. He's also got a long history with Lucasfilm and maybe even Kathleen Marshall's cell phone number. If not Darabont, I guess we'll just have to hope that the writer has those same sensibilities.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:02 a.m. CST

    @righteousbrother

    by Eric Hines

    I see gosling as the rouge/womanizer/solo type. I fully expect him to be in this either way. No reason was given for his exit from Logan's Run

  • From Entertainment Weekly: "Two of the first people to know George Lucas was planning to return to the Galaxy Far, Far Away? Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia. Mark Hamill (‘Luke’) tells EW that he sat down with Lucas and “Star Wars” co-star Carrie Fisher (‘Leia’) in August to talk about a possible return of the Skywalker siblings. Hamill, to say the least, was shocked when Lucas announced yesterday they’d be sequelizing “Return of the Jedi” (1983). Actor and voice-over artist Hamill isn’t sure why Lucas decided to tell him and Fisher the news, suggesting it’s not necessarily because he wants them to be involved. But, personally, the fact that Hamill and Fisher were there, and not Harrison Ford – who Lucas knows would turn down a chance to reprise Han Solo, says to me Lucas could be getting his ducks in a row. Yeah, last August, he asked Carrie and I to have lunch with him and we did. I thought he was going to talk about either his retirement or the Star Wars TV series that I’ve heard about — which I don’t think we were going to be involved in anyway, because that takes place between the prequels and the ones we were in and, if Luke were in them, he’d be anywhere from a toddler to a teenager so they’d get an age-appropriate actor — or the 3-D releases. So when he said, “We decided we’re going to do Episodes VII, VIII, and IX,” I was just gobsmacked. “What? Are you nuts?!” [Laughs] I can see both sides of it. Because in a way, there was a beginning, a middle, and an end and we all lived happily ever after and that’s the way it should be — and it’s great that people have fond memories, if they do have fond memories. But on the other hand, there’s this ravenous desire on the part of the true believers to have more and more and more material. It’s one of those things: people either just don’t care for it or are passionate about it. I guess that defines what cult movies are all about. We’ll see. I’m anxious to know what’s going on, but the main story [yesterday] was the sale to Disney. I have mixed feelings about that, but they haven’t done badly by Marvel and the Muppets and Pixar. It’s one of those big decisions that at first seems unusual but then the more you look at it, the more it makes sense. Hamill, who still doesn’t know whether he’ll be back or not to reprise lightsaber-wielding Luke, says yesterday’s Disney news came as a surprise. Oh my gosh, what a shock that was! I had no idea that George was going to sell to Disney until I read it online like everybody else. He did tell us last summer about wanting to go on and do [Episodes] VII, VIII, and IX, and that [newly appointed Lucasfilm president] Kathleen Kennedy would be doing them. He seems to be in a really good place. He’s really happy. And that’s nice because I know that when we were making the movies, he was not a jolly guy on set. [Laughs] I always felt badly for him because he agonizes over details, and I’m sure after imagining it in his head for so many years, to see it realized — he’d look up and just hang his head and groan. Harrison [Ford], Carrie [Fisher], and I were always trying to cheer him up and joke him out of his doom and gloom. I missed his call yesterday, but I spoke to him maybe three weeks ago. But until we know more, it’s hard to make any comment other than congratulations to George. Yesterday I spoke in detail about the new “Star Wars” trilogy, toying with the possibility that the films might be based on some of the literary novels that follow the events of “Return of the Jedi”. Seems that won’t be the case. Although he’s only involved in a consultancy position, Lucas did come up with the outline for the next three films and it’s, according to a Lucasfilm source (via E!), an original story (not based on anything that happened in the books). So, no Thrawn then?"

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Lindelof does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    The deleted scenes in PROMETHEUS show a far more complete picture of the movie Ridley shot and Lindelof wrote, and they help answer or iron out a lot of the wtf moments and questionable character motivations that people keep bringing up. You try writing a story and then having 15% of it hacked out and removed in random fashion. So I think Lindelof is fine with me. Brad Bird has come off a superb animated feature THE INCREDIBLES and then gone into live action (with far more success than stablemate Andrew Stanton). In fact MISSION IMPOSSIBLE: GHOST PROTOCOL was imho the best in the series. And in how many series can you say that the fourth sequel is the best?! Great zipalong pace, real jepoardy, inventive action scenes - it was a really good, entertaining film. So if LV's sleuthing turns out to be true then bring it on!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:05 a.m. CST

    The Music

    by Kurt Walter

    I've been reading hundreds of talkbacks and dozens of articles and no one had once metioned the music. Does John Williams come back? Does he want to? I can't imagine who today could even come close to doing what Williams does with the score. Star Wars for me is about the sound as much as the visual.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:07 a.m. CST

    As for STAR WARS...

    by Mikey Wood

    ...I think it's in fine hands any way it goes. WHY? Because the biggest danger to STAR WARS was the man who created it. It's good for George to let other hands into the mix. It's been PROVEN time and time again that there are others out there who understand how to approach and treat the property better than he does. In FACT, he's the one who FINDS these people. Think of all of examples of what we associate with "good" STAR WARS: EMPIRE - Written by Leigh Brackett and Lawrence Kasdan from an outline by Lucas. Directed by Irvin Kerschner. CLONE WARS 'toons (both versions): Genndy Tartakovsky et al. Not a single Lucas-penned or directed episode in the bunch. George needs to step back. He told the stories he felt like he needed to tell and we have to honor him for memories that his creations gave us but let's move on. Let's see more of what STAR WARS has to offer.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Darabont...

    by Stale Elvis

    ...wouldn't piss on Lucas if he was on fire after the way he was treated by Lucas after spending a year writing his script for Indy IV. Saying that, Darabont could do a great SW movie and might just do it to piss on the flaming wreckage of the current SW films that Lucas left behind.

  • A writer who can't cook up a good ending to a story is a BAD writer.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:09 a.m. CST

    1952... 5+2=7 7+1=8 and the second digit is 9! 7, 8, 9!!!

    by VanGoghX

    Oh my God! It's all right there in the title!!! Someone shoot me now!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Andre Braugher as Darth Pembleton

    by tom

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:11 a.m. CST

    If we want to speculate, we just need spies to tell us...

    by Mel Gibsteinberg

    Who's been up to the ranch in the last 6-8 months, for whatever reason. If someone saw Lindeloff up at Skywalker, its possible he was having some meeting with Georgie Porgie to get the deets on this "treatment" or to do follow up questions. Although actually, why even do a physical visit, they could just as easily do a video-chat and no one would be the wiser. But if there was any art that was produced in secret, or physical models, it's possible. Pixar isn't that far from Marin, it's conceivable that sometime in the last year that Brad Bird or someone else took a jaunt up there under the auspices of some "other" project, and while there they had a quick discussion. Just the fact that someone was there doesn't mean anything, but it could. But if AICN is gonna crank up the old spy machine, that's where I'd start. This is simple detective work, start canvassing and finding out who's been near or around George and the compound, you'll find some answers there.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:14 a.m. CST

    mikeywood

    by Stale Elvis

    FFS - Leigh Brackett didn't write Empire. She wrote a treatment and died of cancer. Lucas hated her treatment and rewrote it and passed his own treatment on to be polished into the final script. He then gave Brackett writing credit as a posthumous thanks. Yeah, thats right, the best film, ESB came from the mind of Lucas himself. Get your 'facts' straight before printing them as facts. Jesus.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:15 a.m. CST

    It's gonna need to be written by committee

    by FrodoFraggins

    Someone good at plots, another great at dialogue, another with an eye for pacing, ...

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Episode 7

    by tapehead1

    How about Luke is the elder Jedi master at a new Jedi Academy, the first since the days of the Republic which hes set up on Yavin in a remote, lush jungle. He spends his days overseeing things and helping the the other Jedi masters teach while they groom the best and brightest. Meanwhile, Leia and Han have had three kids Jaina and Jacen and Anakin (from the books) Jacen comes to Yavin on business operation and calls up his Uncle Luke. Hes played by Josh Holloway and is much like the smirking smuggler Han was. However Luke soon finds that Jacen is more powerful in the force than any of the Academy's Padawans and sets forward training him much like Obi Wan, with much resistantance from Jacen. Meanwhile, theres also some kind of threat growing simultaneously that causes Luke and Jacen to embark on an adventure together. Unlike with Obi Wan, Luke doesnt die but gets the last thrill of an adventure. Sets up Episode 8, Jacens own story where he meets up with his sister to take down the growing threat of a new Empire (or something else). Also, Han could have a small cameo in VII where hes killed which causes his son to want to avenge is death and listen to his uncle about the force.

  • Definitely some bad decisions in there, no doubt, but I still think they could have been good to great with better dialogue and choices from a design standpoint (although Phantom Menace still would be tough to make cool, even with just a framework in hand).

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Why do you guys hate on Damon Lindelof and JJ Abrams so much?

    by Mikey Wood

    What did they do to insult you all so very, very badly? Is it because they gave us LOST? One of the most intelligent, interesting, and gripping examples of genre TV in a good, long while? Is it because they gave us STAR TREK with balls? What is it? And, if it's PROMETHEUS you're crying about, I agree with another post from earlier: Although I enjoyed the film, it's flaws AREN'T with the script, it's with the cut. Never before have I seen deleted scenes that would have added so much to a movie.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:19 a.m. CST

    southpawd

    by brokentusk

    Eight feature films isn't an extensive résumé? Look, I like Brad Bird as much as the next geek, but I just don't see a correlation between what he's done in the past and directing a live action STAR WARS film.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:19 a.m. CST

    As much as I was disappointed with Lindelof's Prometheus

    by elsewhere

    I'd still rather have him than Lucas.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Darth Dusey

    by Kurt Walter

    I'm not worried about the main theme - of course that will be used. However, the score is so rich and layered you know it is Star Wars. None of the other SW properties, like games, Clone Wars, etc. come close to an actual John Williams score. Don't underestimate how difficult it will be to imitate his sound to make "authentic." I grew up on these soundtracks and know them inside and out. A bad score could undermine the new movies. Let's hope the Maestro is willing and up to it...

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:20 a.m. CST

    If Hamill and Fisher are involved Harrison Ford is a must!!!

    by DARTH VOODOO

    As I posted a few stories back George Lucas has already met with Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher about Episode VII. As a matter of fact it is now being reported that Hamill knew about this last year. If that is true this project has been in motion for quite some time. http://www.firstshowing.net/2012/mark-hamill-talks-star-wars-episode-vii-knew-about-it-last-year/ Assuming that those two are going to return as Luke and Leia it would be more than a little anticlimactic not having Han Solo (Harrison Ford) back in the fold. I understand that Ford has never been one to speak highly of SW, but when you consider that the fact that SW made him a superstar combined with some of the evil empire's (Disney) money could get him back even in a limited role. What I don't want to see is Solo being killed off on or off screen. That would be lame and make me not want to see this film. You can't have Luke and Leia without Han Solo in Episode VII...DISNEY GET THIS DONE!!!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:22 a.m. CST

    DL now has Luke as his twitter background

    by ManEatingFish

    Also Josh Harnett is the only actor who looks like Harrison Ford, plus he id now 34 while Harrison was 35 when Star Wars came out

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:23 a.m. CST

    To theveryfirst

    by Mel Gibsteinberg

    Okay, I'm starting to see your point. To be honest I haven't really paid that much attention to Lindeloff, so in my mind he was "okay". I mean, LOST was incredible, until it wasn't. Star Trek was fine, I've already mentioned that I did not and do not have a problem with they way they re-booted it. Lens flares not withstanding (that's a JJ thing anyway) I thought the movie was what it should be. Cowboys & Aliens? THAT was an embarrassment. Something that one does not want on their resume, especially the writer because the script really was a mess. Predictable, tired, cliche, and way too serious for what it was. But I also put some of that on Favreau as well. Prometheus? Again, I don't hate it as much as some here, I certainly don't love it, for me it was a fun, taut, thriller with some unbelievable visuals. The kind of movie that you see once and enjoy, but the more you think about, starts to fall apart under intense scrutiny. But for that matter, so do most big budget epics (see Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy, Inception, Avengers, Cap'n America, Thor, - all movies I had a great time with). But there is a point where you have to recognize that some movies are meant to entertain through outlandish fantasy and spectacle, and some are meant to provoke thought and conversation. Perhaps we shouldn't try to mix the two, it hasn't always worked well in the past. There is a reason it is called "fantasy" its meant as escapism, not to teach us the virtues of classical empiricism or Aristotelian philosophy.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Brad Bird...

    by Sandy

    I can handle the concept of directing this....but Damon needs to stay FAR, FAR AWAY from the galaxy of Star Wars.

  • What was great about the original series was the mystery of certain characters origins (Fett and the bounty hunters, Jabba, Coruscant, Vader and the Sith, the force...etc) As we all know... we asked for the answers, and they were answered in the prequels, games, and books (and clone wars cartoons)- most of the time terribly... jango Fett- WTF! little boy Boba Fett- WTF! Anakin/Vader wtf! Jedi Council- wtf! all Jedi (for the most part)- Pussies! Its always better when there is mystery behind the story- unanswered questions.... it was better before they pulled back the curtain. Lindelofs style certainly lends itself to this type of story telling- and brad birds cred with sci fi is a plus (still would prefer blomkamp).

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:26 a.m. CST

    EVERYONE IS THINKING WAY TOO BIG...

    by Hedorah

    As the father of a seven-year-old daughter who can't get enough of the Disney Channel and Disney XD... I think all this is going in the wrong direction. Okay, there *might* be a big screen adaptation or continuation... but I'm thinking more along the lines of the home viewer. We could end up with sitcom fodder for years to come. The next Zendaya or Brandon Mychal Smith could end up with starring roles in tween hits like "That's So Jedi!" or "Chewie With a Chance." Darth Vader could make a cameo in the lair of Heinz Doofenschmirtz... or maybe Meep could whip out a light sabre in "Chronicles of Meep, Episode IV: Hard Candace." And let's not forget those big hits on Disney Radio... how about "The Force of Your Love"... ?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:26 a.m. CST

    1+9+5+2=XVII...

    by 120chester

    Not sure where "pieman67" learned math (or Roman numerals).

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Alternate Plotlines to TOS films.....what could have been....

    by Da B-Meister

    Found: possible alternate plotlines to the old Star Wars films. Note, however, that these plots may not be to consecutive films, but slightly out of order. 1. Entitled "Send in the Clones", we find out that both Darth Vader and Obi-Wan Kenobi were cloned by the same donor, who happens to be a long-lost grandfather of Chewbacca's. This setup up a conflict between the Wookies and the Empire, which becomes the plot to another film titled "Makin' Wookie". 2. In another film, "Hiya, Leia", Princess Leia discovers that her grandfather and Han Solo's grandmother were next-door neighbors on Alderaan, before it was blown up by Darth Vader (in Episode IV). In a wild, galactic battle battle, Luke fights Boba Fett, and we are left with the impression that Boba may be Luke's father. 3. Both Boba Fett and Jabba the Hut were once comrades of Darth Vader, and this is brought out in another film entitled "Yessir, That's My Boba". We find out that Luke Skywalker's lightsaber was once recharged by Boba Fett's father, who we suspect may be Chewbacca. This ties in with the romance between C3PO (who learns he is part human) and Chewbacca's half-hairy sister, Varga (introduced in yet another film "Cut and Droid").

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:29 a.m. CST

    @Mikeywood I don't hate Lindelof...

    by AlienFanatic

    I just think he's not talented enough to be handed these big films. I think he's a good TV writer, but he falls back on coincidences, cliches, and tired action setpieces to fill his films. If you look at the two big movies he's written (Prometheus and Cowboys) you realize he has no ear for dialog, a poor ability to write realistic character motivations, and doesn't have many original ideas when it comes to writing action sequences. I don't hate him, but I also think that as a writer for films he's out of his element. He's much better when he's writing TV episodes, most likely part of a collaborative environment where he's receiving feedback from his fellow writers and/or lead writers. With Star Wars, we don't HAVE to settle for a (imo) mediocre writer. There will be dozens of AAA writers scrambling to submit treatments to Disney over the next six months. I know the production schedule will have to be aggressive, but I'm guessing we'll see spec scripts being reviewed for the next two months, a final approval in Mid-2013, and greenlight/production in the fall of 2013 with a summer 2015 release date. PLENTY of time for most of these guys to slam out some great scripts without having to resort to this. I love LV's knowledge, but I just think he's way off base on this one. There is just too much riding on this to have some kind of secret, behind-the-scenes agreement to move forward with a script from Lindelof when they likely haven't vetted any other, better writers yet.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Still don't get the Lindelof ...

    by HughHoyland

    hate. Prometheus was a breath of fresh air to me. At least it wasn't a rehash and I think its a study on how to do (at least one good way to do) a prequel. You don't have to have every little piece of story line up with all the others like a jig-saw puzzle to make it a good story. Leave that for the sequel.

  • Nolan made the dour, plodding, and ultimately barely cohesive last two Batman films! Give him Star Wars.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Wow...cut off most of my post.

    by Baked

    Nolan made the dour, plodding, and ultimately barely cohesive last two Batman films! Give him Star Wars.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:33 a.m. CST

    I don't really see Gosling as the wise-cracking roguish type...

    by Righteous Brother

    but hey - I'd be willing to give him the chance. Oh and whoever name checked Darabont....I think he might be ok for Star Wars but his Indy script was abysmal, it was actually worse than what we ended up with for Crystal Skull.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Still doing it.

    by Baked

    And people should really ease up on this pointless speculation. Most of your ideas are shit in the bowl spinning down the hole drawn by the gravity of whatever was new and hip in the last two years.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:34 a.m. CST

    ...This talkback is broken.

    by Baked

    And people should really ease up on this pointless speculation. Most of your ideas are shit in the bowl spinning down the hole drawn by the gravity of whatever was new and hip in the last two years.

  • https://twitter.com/DamonLindelof

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:34 a.m. CST

    It makes some sense...

    by 120chester

    that LucasFilm and Disney are already far down the story/script path. After all, the purchase of LucasFilm didn't happen right at the announcement. A deal like that has been in negotiations for months (if not longer), and I am sure a condition of the agreement had always been that new Star Wars movies would be made, so why not get the ball rolling. Remember, the announcement of new movies was not made by Bob Iger in the Disney ivory tower speculating on the future. It was made by Lucas, who overtly gave his permission to make new films, and Kathleen Kennedy, who is responsible for actually getting the films made!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Indy is All About Ford, and Ford is just too old

    by JGer

    Unless they decided to do a complete reboot (which I am sure we will see in our lifetime), there really shouldn't be much talk about it now. Star Wars films can be done with no involvement froom anyone tied into the first 6 films.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Thanks, AICN, now you get blocktext for your troubles.

    by Baked

    Brad Bird competently made Mission Impossible, resurrecting a franchise we're not sure was actually dead! Give him Star Wars!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST

    stale elvis, you're WRONG...

    by Mikey Wood

    ...Lucas wrote a TREATMENT, if that. A story. A plotline. Kasdan wrote the screenplay. They say Brackett's (who was an incredible writer) "voice" can be felt all over the place as far as character interaction. Lucas DIDN'T WRITE THE FILM. Coming up with a STORY is not nearly the same as WRITING A SCRIPT. LEARN the way the process works before you get all high and mighty, chief. "JESUS"!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST

    I also don't see anyone acting as Han/Luke/Leia's stand-ins

    by AlienFanatic

    Folks, the idea is to make VII a transitional film. The goal is to use the post-Jedi characters to hand off the franchise to younger actors that can carry VIII, IX, X, etc. If they do bring guys like Hamill back, as I think they will, it will likely be only for VII, they won't use stand-ins, and they will introduce Anakin Skywalker's grandchildren. I don't think they'll reference the Zahn books at all, since Lucas wrote the treatment and he HATES referencing the work of others. But I think it makes logical sense. Hell, per an article I read today Hamill revealed that Lucas told him and Fisher about the plans to make VII, VIII, and IX a few months ago. Why would he have even bothered to pull them aside if he hadn't planned on making use of them? All this speculation about using younger actors to replace them is silly. Sure, they could write a bridge story that shows the younger Han & Leia having force-aware children, but that's a lazy crutch. It'd be far more interesting to see a writer start the story with the late middle-age Luke at his Jedi academy working with the Solo children while Leia and Han look on from the sidelines.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST

    ...

    by Baked

    That said, Star Wars has never really impressed me as a franchise, so I can't say my heart would break if they made another horrible movie. And people should really ease up on this pointless speculation. Most of your ideas are shit in the bowl spinning down the hole drawn by the gravity of whatever was new and hip in the last two years. --Nolan made the dour, plodding, and ultimately barely cohesive last two Batman films! Give him Star Wars. --Brad Bird competently made Mission Impossible, resurrecting a franchise we're not sure was actually dead! Give him Star Wars! --JJ Abrams loves lens flares and sci-fi! Give him Star Wars!-- Here's the truth. Star Wars will probably roll through directors like Harry Potter did unless they find someone with nothing better to do. Your director will either be passionate and capable or cashing in and brilliant. Either way, you won't be happy with the choice.

  • And the names of those two people alive are Gary Kurtz and Lawrence Kasdan. You know the third one who recently pased away.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:39 a.m. CST

    2015 minus 1952 equals 63. 63 divided by IX equals VII

    by PHUCKO

    2015 minus 1952 equals 63. 63 divided by IX equals VII. It's a cookbook!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:40 a.m. CST

    I'll echo previous comments: Yes to Brad Bird, No to Lindelof!!!

    by Just_Some_Guy

    Brad Bird is THE perfect choice for Star Wars. Lindelof will fuck it up. So would Orci and Kurtzman. Keep those fuckers away!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Oh yeah, get Kurtz back!

    by Just_Some_Guy

  • You're one of the consistently best, smartest, and well-observing commenters on this site, but I think the real achievement was just identifying this project as the potential Episode VII. Compared to that, the speculation about the number 1952 itself seems half-baked and distracting. Well spotted, though. What are the odds that Disney would be planning a *different* sci-fi epic, complete with toy line, based on something completely original and undisclosed?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:43 a.m. CST

    BRAD BIRD SUCKS PELICAN BALLS HARDCORE!!!!!

    by wannabedirector

    .......am I the only one who thinks all this fucking sucks ass, yes the prequels were on par with the Matrix sequels, and nobody else could fuk 'em up more than they already have been. SERIOUSLY, the DIRECTOR of MI4 and writer of PROMETHEUS!!!??? Disney just took a shit on your doorstep, lit it on fire, and said go fuk urself!!!!! thanks!!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:44 a.m. CST

    HE WAS THE "LAST JEDI", SO HE SHOULD BE THE ONLY ONE LEFT.

    by Darth Busey

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:45 a.m. CST

    i really liked abrams's superman script

    by Stephen

  • Listen folks get old and most of them lose their touch. The Stones haven't written a good song in 30 years. Rolling a bunch of old farts out to make new Star Wars movies (both behind and in front of the camera) is just dumb. Honestly I think they should take the cue of Bond, Marvel etc. and give a non genre guy a chance at making a genre film.

  • That's what they told him when they asked him to direct an adaptation of "The Wind in the Willows".<p><p> That's Disney in a nutshell.<p><p> I hope this is actually Lucas's revenge on all the shitbags who kept screaming about the prequels and the raped childhoods. They're maybe 2% (at best) of viewers, but their moronic yelling seemed to have actually reached Lucas and embittered him, since he, for some weird reason, didn't just mock them immediately, as should have been done.<p><p> I'm hoping that, in in 5 years or so, when the Disney crap is already out, Lucas hopes to have these idiots screaming and crying that they miss him now and that the prequels really aren't that bad, especially compared to what Disney's executives have done to Star Wars.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:46 a.m. CST

    All of it is true

    by Steve Lamarre

    There's no way they can make the 2015 date unless things are, and have been, seriously rolling forward by now. Lindelof and Bird are ideal choices for Star Wars, and they won't be wasted on some obscure UFO thing that happened in 1952. (Well, Lindelof ain't ideal, but he's a fine choice.)

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Damon Lindelof? No thanks.

    by oreodogvomit

    Maybe for the proposed TV show but I think Prometheus showed us that what works on the small screen doesn't necessarily work in the cinema.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Speculation

    by Larry Jay

    Is all we have at this point. My thoughts. Spielberg. He has the weight and the vision to bring this around. He's always wanted to direct Star Wars. His calendar is free after Lincoln. He's probably talked to George about this. He's the only person who can keep George's dickskinners off the project once he comes onboard. He's the ONLY person who can bring us Harrison Ford. General of the Republic HAN Solo And Jedi Grand Master Luke Skywalker.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:51 a.m. CST

    That Mark Hamil interview got me REALLY interested...

    by Ricardo

    ... this might be it! Ford would NEVER do it, and that is just fine by me. But Mark Hamill and Tony Daniels sure would accept! Carrie Fisher, 90% chance...

  • ...it's here: http://starwarz.com/starkiller/category/star-wars-scripts/the-empire-strikes-back-star-wars-scripts/ It's actually pretty good and you can certainly see the genesis of what ended up on screen.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:51 a.m. CST

    "wantes"? WANTS

    by Mikey Wood

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:52 a.m. CST

    Re: Hamill's and Neeson's birthdays

    by Keith

    What an absolute load of crap.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Have the Jedi start acting like a cult

    by bobbofatz

    Shine a light on them. Maybe the Jedi have become to preachy and powerful. They become similar to some big fat earth church. Bringing in lots of sheep and dough but doing very little for the good of the force.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Hamill and Fisher

    by Keith

    To be honest I'm not sure I want to see either of them in any sequel. Physically they both look so far from how they did in 1983 that...it would just seem too weird. And, please...Damon Lindelof...no.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:55 a.m. CST

    NO... NOOOOOOO!!!!!

    by JAMF

    lindelof? are you fucking kidding me? better be fake.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:55 a.m. CST

    oh god i know what we're gonna get

    by Stephen

    its gonna be luke as obi wan and his apprentice fight against some sith guy and there's all the great mystery about the past between ROTJ and ep 7 and then they're gonna do episodes 6.1, 6.2, 6.3 prequels to a sequel about how the new republic fell apart and this new evil rose to power

  • It is all just speculation for fun really. I could be right, or wrong. Like flipping a coin. It's a 50/50 chance.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:58 a.m. CST

    LeBeef doesn`t deserve good spelling.

    by higgledyhiggles

    Shia I am your father. No No No No No No...

  • Wild speculation and the picking apart of any related news. The most annoying thing about Star Wars is, and always has been, it's "fans". I look forward to the new film. Just not it's build from the nerds.

  • but u cray man

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:04 p.m. CST

    fan favorite film writer Damon Lindelof

    by Soliok

    What fans of what films? Fuck you, sir.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:09 p.m. CST

    John Carpenter should direct this shit

    by Stephen

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Doesn't Joe Johnston Make Sense?

    by JGer

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:11 p.m. CST

    yeah joe johnston makes sense

    by Stephen

    because he's a shitty director just like lucas

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Lets get this right once and for all, 1952 is the year.......

    by Marlboroliteman

    Brian Cox started drinking hard liquor. Three weeks ago The National Advocate reported a story of a Japanese man being chased by an intoxicated, fully nude Brian Cox thru the streets of Bolder, Colorado. According to the report the Japanese man after being chased more than a mile and a half finally reached the Bolder, Colorado Police Station and burst inside screaming "HELP ME HELP ME please he's comming to get me!!" The witnesses inside the police department said that the man then proceeded to barricade the entrance with chairs and whatever else he could find. Then to the shock of everyone a nude, fully aroused Brian Cox crashed thru the doors sending the Japanese man to the floor. Then according to witnesses Brian Cox yelled "I am a Sith Lord from the planet Zeus and I have come to baptize your first born!!" then after a 25 minute fight involving more than 11 police officers Brian Cox was finally subdued. Sargent Jim Pittman said he's never seen anything like it "the man took 4 point blank hits in the gut from a shotgun using bean bag rounds and he still kept comming. At one point we had 5 taizer guns hooked into him and all those volts didn't even phase him." Police Commisioner DeBoise stated he was in a mild state of shock after viewing the survalence camera footage of the incident, "He sent six of my guys to the hospital, but after seeing what happened on tape....thank God it wasn't worse."

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Cobra and LV are correct

    by paladinryan

    Prometheus did have editing problems, and if you compare the 1952 news timeline to the SW one, they match up, even to when Lucas called Fisher and Hamill up for lunch in August. Iger approached Lucas back in May of 2011--it would make sense that he would start talking to Lindelof about possibly writing the script the next month in June, as a way to show Lucas they had the right people in place (Bird as well) to do this. I bet MI4's great success and John Carter's failure sealed the deal for Bird.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Good choice

    by Chrono85

    I think that Brad Bird is a great choice as director, and I don't really mind Lindelof. My only real concern right now is that they will re-cast the Luke, Han and Leia, which would be a terrible decission. If Ford wont' return, then I'd rather the movie be set decades after Jedi, where Luke is the only one still alive, with his life span having been extended by the force or something. They could throw in a character that is the grand child of Han and Leia or something, so they are still connected to the new trilogy, but recasting them would be a horrible, horrible idea.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Why people are excited about Bird too

    by paladinryan

    The man made 'The Iron Giant,' one of the best serious animated films since Secret of Nimh. And he's a master of capturing family dynamics (Incredibles, Ratatouille), which is what these films will need if we're going to follow the next generation of Skywalkers. I want to see a brother vs. sister lightsaber duel! Incredibles and MI4 showed he can direct action, as well.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Stop the gay subtext

    by Jeff

    Star Wars needs to drop the gay subtext. Light sabres? Cock symbolism.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Poor Luke...

    by DirtyWookie

    Bloody hell, Mark Hamill didn't even look like Mark Hamill by the time of Jedi.... Like someone said, a few trips to the gym, teeth whitened a little, bit of Botox... He'll look fine!!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Bottom line....

    by DANGER_DIABOLIK_

    .....just continue from where the story ended at Return of the Jedi.... ...recast the 3 main leads (due to age).... ...and chuck a load of money in the direction of Ryan Gosling (Han Solo), Michelle Williams (Leia), and DiCaprio (Skywalker).... ....get actors in, who CAN act....end of.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Also I predict....

    by DirtyWookie

    In the new films, Luke becomes the bad ass Sith Lord with Leis kids trying to take him down.... You read it here first folks Or maybe read it in a comic/novel!!?! I don't read the eu shit.....

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:26 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Thanks Paladinryan. I think LV is possibly onto something too, the vague announcement about a big budget new sci fi tentpole film with cross media appeal - sounds exactly like a description for STAR WARS. I think LV should probably have left it at that tho rather than trying to find meaning in the numbers 1952 and match them up to Mark Hamills birthdate etc, thats a little too far and has possibly muddied the waters abit. Although LOST fans do know that Lindelof seems to like his *numbers*...

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Leia..... I meant Leia... Crappy phone

    by DirtyWookie

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Mark Hamill didn't even look like Mark Hamill by the time of Jedi....

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Wasn't that because his face went through a car windshield right around the time Star Wars came out? I mean look at Empire, that guy looks totally different from the one in A New Hope. Maybe he got switched a la Paul Mccartney.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:28 p.m. CST

    UM.... WHY ARE PEOPLE JUMPING ON THE BRAD BIRD BANDWAGON??

    by J-Dizzle

    Excuse my ignorance, but from what I know, Brad Bird's only good movie is Mission Impossible 4. Has he done some other great projects I haven't heard about? Because I'm weary of handing Star Wars over to a director based on the success of just 1 movie.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Dear God, please no Hans Zimmer

    by Raptor Jesus

    He's done some fine scores, but not for this. I'd say get a Spanish composer named Roque Banos.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:29 p.m. CST

    I'll take Lindelof...

    by deathvalley69

    ...if that gets me Bird.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:29 p.m. CST

    danger_diabolik_

    by DANGER_DIABOLIK_

    ....and for the love of Buddah, keep the likes of Shia LaBoeuf, Steven Speilberg, Damon Lindelof, and Jar Jar Abrams AWAY from it.........try Joss Whedon, Ridders Scott, Chris Nolan etc....

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:31 p.m. CST

    1952 was the year that Lucas stopped wetting his bed

    by Samuel Fulmer

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:32 p.m. CST

    So a film every three years..

    by donkey_lasher

    ...but it doesn't really work like Bond does it?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Maybe they'll get Tobe Hooper

    by Samuel Fulmer

    And let Spielberg ghost direct it!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST

    The whole Bond comparison brought up by Disney is stupid shit

    by Samuel Fulmer

    You can easily make a Bond movie every three years, because they're fricken formula films based around one character. I mean, if Disney said hey we're doing an Indiana Jones movie every three films like Bond, then shit, I'd get it, because you could, because they have a formula, revolve around one character, and take place on the planet Earth. If they start pumping these out every three years they'll be as shoddy as the old school serials from the 30's that served as their initial inspiration.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Mark Hamill + virtual unknowns

    by GeorgieBoy

    Seriously. We don't want Shia Labeef or Justin Beiber as Padawans driving these movies. Populate the cast with some virtual unknowns so that the audience isn't distracted with "Hey look! It's Hannah Montana in Jedi robes!"

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:39 p.m. CST

    STAR WARS = SUMMER. Fuck this holiday release bullshit!

    by AzulTool

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Mark Hamill + VR Troopers

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Maybe Saban will get bought out by Disney. We are....We are....V-R!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:41 p.m. CST

    I just hope to some higher power they stay the Hell away from Tatooine

    by Samuel Fulmer

    New worlds or maybe a return trip to Dagobah or Hoth. I mean shit, Tatooine is in 5 of the 6 films so far. Can we take a break!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Bird's twitter comment

    by Steve

    And there's this: https://twitter.com/BradBirdA113/status/261248522312114176 “@comradeparker: MIGP is big spectacle fun on par with Jurassic Park.” Thanks. More "big spectacle fun" on the way--!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:45 p.m. CST

    quentin tarantino should direct this shit

    by Stephen

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:47 p.m. CST

    I Lindelof You

    by Dawhiteguy

    If not for LOST. I might not of acquired the taste for where Science fiction is really going. That is, with SAGA!!!!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Hard to believe Lindelof reads these threads

    by AlienFanatic

    If I were him, I sure woudln't :) Hey, I may criticize him but I also don't walk in his shoes. Hollywood is a cutthroat business so even surviving is a miracle. That said, I still don't like where he went with Prometheus and I found Cowboys & Aliens an empty experience. That said, I don't hate him, but I do think he's not right for adapting other peoples' works. I think there are screenwriters with a better grasp of characters and, if he's honest, Damon would want the very best people working on Star Wars, even if they weren't him. Hell, if I were a writer *I* wouldn't want to touch Star Wars. Far too much baggage and high expectations. As a fan, I'd rather be surprised by what other writers come up with. Just as long as Episode VII doesn't start with, oh I dunno, a new galactic dispute brought on by a rounding error made by the head of the Republic's accounting services department.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:49 p.m. CST

    That said...

    by AlienFanatic

    I really wish I hadn't said "That said" so much. Ugh. GIVE ME AN EDIT BUTTON DAMMIT!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Tatooine is an easy filming location

    by GeorgieBoy

    Easier than making up a fake swamp or fighting through the wet snow.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:58 p.m. CST

    @maneatingfish

    by Quarantined

    That's been Damon's twitter background for a while... I think at least since LOST ended (when I started checking his twitter feed out).

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Lindelof? Hell NO! But...let him do it. Could be worse!

    by Phantasmagor

  • What in Nolan's filmography makes Star Wars fans think "this is the guy!"? I don't get it. I'm not a fan of either Star Wars or Nolan, so maybe that's why I can't see the connection. Now, someone was mentioning Nolan for James Bond. That actually makes sense. I wanted Brad Bird for Superman long before they got Snyder (ugh, dammit!), and Ghost Protocol became a hit. Maybe, if Bird is not to make Star Wars, he can do a new Indiana Jones.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Will Greg Grunberg be in Star Wars? His fat body is everywhere.

    by The Comrade

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Take your fucktarded children to see this!

    by Squinty CGI Flynn

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 1:13 p.m. CST

    John Carpenter for Episode VII...

    by Wes_Reviews_

    Come on... You know you'd go watch that shit in a heartbeat.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 1:15 p.m. CST

    haha hell yeah wes_reviews_ i said that a few posts up

    by Stephen

    dont think he'd go for it though. too many suits telling him what to do.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Please...someone make it relevant, again.

    by PorkChopXpress

    I have lost almost every shred of the love I once held for Star Wars. It's like when you fall in love, and then the person you fall in love with starts acting like a dipshit and you find that you're just sort of tolerating them, with moments of love. Then finally, there's almost nothing left but the memory of that original love, which MIGHT be able to be re-kindled, if your significant other wasn't still such an idiot. That's where I'm at with Star Wars, right now...pretty much just expecting more stupidity, but hoping that things might someday turn around.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Bird as director = 9/10 / Lindelof as writer =7/10. Here's why:

    by Quarantine

    Star Wars is personal to all of us but Brad Bird is arguably the best director to "reboot" the Star Wars franchise because: 1) He storyboards everything resulting in breathtaking action scenes and tension in both the Incredibles and MI. It's obvious he understands coherent action like few others (Cameron jumps to mind) 2) He has 21st century comedic sensibility and knows how to reach different demographics without making things seem overly childish. 3) He understands group dynamics. He's not Whedon obviously in this way but he's better than most. 4) Star Wars is largely animated. Lindelof is less exciting but... 1) There are TONs of worse writers *cough* George Lucas. 2) Hes shown he enjoys sci-fi but also understands character and his dialogue is realistic and ocassionally inspired. Lost showed a fun blend of science and myth for a while and Star Wars needs that. 3) He brought elements of Star Wars to Star Trek so it's obvious that was his first love. OVERALL: I'd take a 16/20 Director/writer pairig on some new Star Wars films. Star Trek was a lot more fun than I expected and this could be even better than that.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 1:23 p.m. CST

    1+9+5+2= 17, 1+7 =8

    by Pat

    2+0+1+5= 8 8 is...fucking infinity! Brad Bird Millenium Falcon = Bird DAMON LINDELOF DIM LIFE NO LOAD = The force is dying! Can't you fucking see it?? It's in the STARS! The fucking STAR WARS! AAAAHHHRRRGGHHH!!!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 1:24 p.m. CST

    That would be good or a combination of his character in

    by SID 8.0

    Last Resort. "I will turn turn your son's base into glass."

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Lindelof isn't as bad as David Goyer...

    by Wes_Reviews_

    ...or Orci/Kurtzman for that matter.

  • Christopher Nolan, Jon Favreau, and Marvel President Kevin Feige were all in attendance. Food for thought?????

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 1:31 p.m. CST

    brad bird aint got no style

    by Stephen

    thats why y'all like him so much. cuz he wont bring any new and unwanted personality to your precious franchise i get it

  • For what you mentioned, Nordling. Lindelof's dialogue is typically great (even if it was merely mediocre, it'd be better than the horrific stuff Lucas came up with). His themes, moods, and build-ups almost always work. His stories, in general, are really well done. BUT... He NEEDS to start answering questions he asks in his stories! For real. I loved Prometheus (in the minority around AICN, I know), and I had no problem with the ending being so wide open. But... he needed to clear up SOME stuff. There was too much left over for a presumed sequel--which isn't good writing. He's gotten a reputation now for not finishing what he's started. If he can get a grasp on that fault in his writing, he'd be stellar. Because, other than that one problem, he's a much better writer than most Hollywooders working today (Orci/Kurtz, I'm looking at you...) No matter what, SW is in better hands now, in my opinion. Can't say I'm all that excited about new films, but we'll see what happens. (More excited about *maybe* getting the OT released without all the CGI bs added.) I think LV_426 could be onto something. Sounds like a solid theory, anyway.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 1:37 p.m. CST

    They should not use big names..

    by GBH

    Lucas didn't originally.. Only big names you could use were ones from the original if its right to do so... Most of whom aren't doing much anyway...

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 1:38 p.m. CST

    oh yeah, and where is creepythinman? FACT!

    by GBH

  • They own the property and need to get it just right, not in a George Lucas tinkering kind of way with Crystal Skull, but find the right team (sorry Lindelof, not you). They have the luxury now of taking their time. If anything, I think they should focus on Indy 5 first, pair Spielberg with a great screenwriter, let them come up with a great concept and have Indy come out in 2015, Harrison Ford ain't getting younger. And this will probably be Indy's last dance, and last opportunity to correct Crystal Skull. Time's a wasting.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 1:41 p.m. CST

    What's in the treatment is...

    by theremustbeCHAOS

    That Luke is training new Jedi including his niece and nephew (Luke has no children in the treatment and no mention of Mara Jade), Leia and Lando are emissaries helping to reshape the galaxy and Han has become a drunkard with Chewie looking out for him/protecting him from himself.) The Big bad in the story is "Lucky" Mavin. He is a child of Alderaan who was off planet with his father at the time the planet was destroyed. His father was later killed trying to bomb an imperial ship for revenge. Mavin spent years studying traveling the galaxy alone (except a droid named Ti88) studying the force and military history. He finds out why Alderaan was destroyed and seeks to payback all that were involved. He is helped by a mysterious figure and the climax of episode VII has a familiar planet being destroyed (along with a main character or two). The main characters are definetly the Solo twins and Luke. There is also a bounty hunter character that has a substantial role. This all comes from the outline. It's pretty dark but I expect it will or has been lightened up in the script phase.

  • Bye bye

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 1:53 p.m. CST

    New man in charge at Disney, Alan Horn...

    by michael

    Is basically a godsend for Star Wars. The guy is down to earth, personable, and look at his track record.... Launched Castle Rock with Rob Reiner (Shawshank, Stand By Me, Misery, Few Good Men, Princess Brinde....). Nearly every story they churned out was totally grounded in story first (in fact the Diner scene in When Harry Met Sally was based off how Alan's mom and dad met. The movie was dedicated to his dad, Saul). Then he heads up Warners for over 10 years and his mantra there was to do more movies, not less and have 2 significant tentpoles a year. He took gambles on franchises early and gave them a better life than anyone else would. His first was on Harry Potter, and we see that turned out all right. The Batman reboot, that was him. There's a reason Christopher Nolan calls Warners home now. Star Wars will be done incredibly right, simply from the influence at the very top. He will put the right people in place and they will do their work.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Haven't film makers heard of OVER EXPOSURE?

    by LORDOFLIGHT

    It's all very well trying to bring Star Wars into retail, theme parks etc, etc but there gets a point when it's just everywhere and people get fed up with it.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 1:56 p.m. CST

    AICN article about Star Wars sequels from two years ago

    by Samuel Fulmer

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/47173

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 1:57 p.m. CST

    It appears I've been caught mid-wank

    by lv_426

    http://www.slashfilm.com/lets-speculate-wildly-are-brad-bird-and-damon-lindelof-already-working-on-star-wars-vii/ http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2012/11/01/were-we-told-back-in-may-whod-be-making-star-wars-episode-vii

  • And heck yeah set it 30 years after ROTJ. Hey folks, Alec Guiness was an old guy. So was Yoda (OK, he was a puppet). The point being that it fits perfectly into the Star Wars universe as seen in A New Hope. Luke is the now wizened Jedi who has up to this point been trying to re-organize the Jedi Order with his sister (she being too pre-occupied with aiding in getting the New Republic established and raising her family with Han). But her Jedi training has been completed for the most part. Like most young rogues who have been tamed and made into family men, Han has been turned into a legit businessman and while he still looks back fondly on his adventurous days has become less inclined to risk-taking and is playing it safe. Maybe Chewbacca is recruited to let Han know it's time to get off his duff and join the cause, remember that there are things more important than money, and re-ignite the passion in him. A return of evil is the catalyst for our heroes to band together Ben Kenobi style and convince a younger group of aspiring Jedi and other assorted characters (who can take over the mantle) of taking on this new threat (or old one as the case may be). Get rid of the politics. Keep the potential for goofy Jar Jars and Ewoks to an absolute minimum. Focus on action and adventure and fun, like Lucas' love and inspiration for SW, Buck Rogers serials. We can escape every couple of summers to the theater and see our old heroes (in much smaller roles) guide our new heroes into journeys and battles and adventures. There is SOOO much potential for Star Wars to get back on track and do what it does best. I am SOOO excited at the prospect of this and absolutely excited that something very, very awesome could be just around the corner. I never outgrew it and I never stopped loving it, even with the very flawed prequels. A New Hope indeed.

  • Star Wars has always been very commercial but that Lego shit's takin over. It's demeaning to the films seeing tacky merchandise aimed at 5 year olds everywhere.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:03 p.m. CST

    The next trilogy pretty much writes itself

    by FitnaTheForbiddenMovie

    I mean, you need Luke on Coruscant training Jedi hopefuls, you need remnants of the Empire colluding with pirates and bounty hunters and of course the Sith will resurface. Get someone like Josh Holloway to play a scoundrel type of Jedi, give him an R5 droid and a mission to uncover the conspiracy against the new Republic. Go from there. And keep Han, Leia, Chewie, Threepio and R2 as far away as possible. Obviously Luke plays a bigger role as a mentor, maybe he comes in and saves his former pupil's ass at the end of the day. But keep it simple and straightforward. Please, no Skywalker kids or Solo kids.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:04 p.m. CST

    lv you're gorgeous.

    by Stephen

    I've never actually seen the rumor start before. this has been a pleasure

  • Honestly, for me, if this story is true, I'm encouraged. Not just because he's a huge fan of Star Wars but also because it would basically mean that Lucas, Disney and Brad Bird all thought it was a good script to take the Star Wars universe in a new direction. Not all writers are perfect for every project. Not everyone's that much of a pro. But Lindeloff has been one of the more outspoken Star Wars fans since he first burst onto the screen. He talked about Star Wars while writing Lost. He recently talked about it with the nerdist here: http://www.nerdist.com/2012/03/nerdist-writers-panel-32-damon-lindelof/ And he apparently wrote that spec script. So, while there are obviously better writers out there... I'm not convinced or at least aware of any beyond Whedon who jump right out at the front of the pack in a way that screams "I'm the guy for Star Wars" so I'd almost rather take my chances on a guy who's my age and probably loves Star Wars for the exact same reasons I love Star Wars. Hell, I think I WOULD write a better Star Wars script than many other SciFi scripts because I love the universe that much so why couldn't Lindeloff?

  • Fine if Hamill is around as a 'mentor character', it's probably inevitable. But I don't want to see old Han, old well... everyone. The time has passed. It's too late for all that. I want a more expansive story, not the same old characters again. It makes the universe feel far too small. There's a WHOLE GALAXY out there. Why go back to the 5 or so known characters... when they're wearing dentures and walking with canes? (An exaggeration, but I still don't want to see it.) We need a new story that springboards from the Skywalker story, but is it's own entity. But, I digress, as I really don't care too much about new SW. I just want the OT on Blu--and if making a new SW film is what has to happen first for that to be relevant... so be it. Disney's not stupid. They'll do everything in their power to meet the OT demand that Lucas has ignored for years.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Hang on

    by Prawnee

    1+9+5+2=17. 17=the amount of shits i don't give about stupid theories like this.

  • Many look to Marvel Films lately as an example of how studios should pair directing and writer talents with various franchises but it sounds like that Alan Horn guy isn't far behind. I'm optimistic as any Star Wars fan should be. We're going from the bubble that George lived in where nobody would tell him where he was going wrong, to top tier production approach that will focus group and test the hell out of this like they do for every Pixar film. There's a reason all Pixar films do well critically and entertain audiences around the world. They spent a ton of time crafting story and script until it's right.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:10 p.m. CST

    I agree with quarantine...Lindelof is a good choice.

    by GunterMonkey

    Think of all the writing hacks that could tackle this project...I mean, honestly...Disney could do far, far worse than Lindelof (who is a true fan of Star Wars)...if this is true, I think Bird/Lindelof would be an amazing pair to resurrect the Star Wars franchise...

  • This is serious tinfoil hat territory and it's spreading like fucking wildfire across the internet. There is NO basis or evidence for any of this and just results in fans looking like sad idiots.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:14 p.m. CST

    What SW really needs is more Channing Tatum!

    by Kakii

    And I stand tall unapologetic in the fact I loved the shit out the prequels! They raped no ones childhood, peoples expectations were too high like a heroin addict trying to recapture their first hit! Yes Ive a couple of minor gripes, Yes I love the originals more! But the prequals were good and ROTS is my fave after Empire. The only thing Lucas did wrong was Indy 4 and Spielberg should take half the blame on that.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Lindelof reads AICN, read his latest twitter post

    by sunwukong86

    Damon Lindelof ‏@DamonLindelof If I ever need a suicide note, I'll just print out this comments section. http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59411

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:15 p.m. CST

    mpbarnet - bang on the money

    by SminkyPinky

    Someone speaking sense for a change. I think you're completely right about Horn.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Hamill/Fisher knew about Ep7 for months

    by xtremist02812

  • You want somebody that can commit to a bunch of these and who's excited to put their name on something special. You want somebody who's on the rise that's displayed an unusual ability to direct action and tension coherently and maintain a good pace. You want somebody that understands visual effects. You want somebody's whose stylish enough without constantly reminding you in every frame, "I'm the guy directing this movie!" the way Tim Burton, David Fincher, Michael bay, and Timur Bekmambetov movies, just to name a few directors with "Trademark" style) do. You want somebody who knows how to direct a family friendly movie without it feeling like it's just for kids. Lindeloff has given us less reasons to be as optimistic but I'm willing to give him a chance. He's aware of everything that people disliked about the prequels and that would immediately put him at an advantage in crafting one of the top 3 Star Wars scripts (after A New Hope and Empire). If you're a Star Wars fan... wouldn't you take that combo?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:18 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    LV, I told you that this rumor would be retweeted around the world in 48 hours! However the debunking that First Showing claim offers no substantiation at all, here's how they claim to debunk and I quote: *It's all pretty convincing. But we've talked to somebody who is in the know when it comes to 1952, and while word on the street is that it's really good, it's not Star Wars: Episode VII. * They use the old *word on the street*... come on! I say this rumor lives on - as you see Lindelof himself is aware of it and has NOT denied it. The dates and the logic of 1952 being codename STAR WARS EP VII still make sense.

  • ...look at Rob Zombie. Die-hard horror fan, but I really think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who thinks he should still be directing movies.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Stop talking about Lindeloff like it's a fact!

    by SminkyPinky

    Please!!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:23 p.m. CST

    m6y Did we see the same Trek movie? I don't think so.

    by Bob

    I saw it twice in theaters, and BOTH times, it received heavy applause. Trek was dead. Nemesis was a fucking mess, and drove the final nail in the NG's and Trek's coffin. This was an excellent reboot. (Except for the Enterprises engine room. It looked like a fucking brewery.) As for Prometheus, people on here are bashing it way too much. Starting with Alien 3, by Fincher, the Alien franchise started going down the shitter, with AVP2:R finally killing it. This was so, so much better. It ended pretty much how I expected too. I am curious to see how a sequel to it will go.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:24 p.m. CST

    quarantine-I agree about Brad Bird

    by Samuel Fulmer

    The only concern I'd have with him is if there's any kind of drama to the story, then how would he handle it.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:26 p.m. CST

    I LOVE LINDELOF

    by Cactus228

    I seriously don't understand the hate at all. Love the guy.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Everyone in this comment section is an idiot

    by Ben

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Rob Zombie aint made 1 shit film!

    by Kakii

    And I didnt like house of 1000 corpses, but a lot did. If your gonna use an example try Paul W.S. Anderson, he made 2 good movies then went down hill into churning out RE shite films.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Paul WS Anderson made good movies?

    by Stephen

    enlighten me

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Lindelof, Kurtzman and Orci

    by evergreen

    I don't think Yoda understands me

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:32 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    cactus228, hello Damon.

  • How can the star of such classics as Hollywood Homicide, Morning Glory, Regarding Henry, Cowboys and Aliens, Firewall, etc feel he is too good for a new SW film or that Han Solo is a dumb character? Pretty safe to say Solo is far more interesting than any of the characters he played in any of the films listed above and is a cultural icon on top of it. To me Han Solo was always much cooler than Indiana Jones...Get with the program Harrison and do the next SW film for the simple reason it will bring smiles to a lot of people's faces and that's what it's all about. P.S. I am a huge fan of the man and it is not my intention in anyway to put him down.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:34 p.m. CST

    cobra--kai, you should be wary of such theories...

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    Remember your own about the mysterious date at the end of the Prometheus credits, and how that was a reference to a sequel that had be filmed in secret? Don't fall for Lindelof and Abram's vacuous 'mystery box' jiggery-pokery....

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Lindelof is a great writer? have you watched

    by frank

    Prometheus? the story of the whole movie screams that it has been written by a salesman, not an artist. But i guess we live in the century of mediocrity so hacks like Lindelof is the way to go.

  • How does that translate to a great film-maker? It would be ironic if JJ got this gig considering Star Trek was just all the character and story beats from Star Wars anyway. But lacking in any of the cinematic sensibility that Lucas brought to it.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Hollywood Homicide-I actually like that movie

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Terrible film, but so bad it's good.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Lindelof is a deal-breaker for me.

    by Margot Tenenbaum

    I am prepared to give Disney the benefit of the doubt on Episode VII, but holy crap that's out the window if Lindelof is their guy.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Worth the 3 bucks I spent on the DVD at Big Lots!

    by Samuel Fulmer

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:40 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    turd, yeah I know - but at least it seems we will be getting a PROMETHEUS sequel in the not-too-distant future. And I suspect theres nothing in this rumor either but its fun to speculate and having played a part in suggesting LV send his theory into aicn its also fun to see it go viral... The fact of the matter is that somewhere, someone has been working away on EP VII - that 2015 release date is just way too soon to go in from a standing start.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Ford has to be in this...

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    even if it's a small role and only in the first episode... They should drive a dump truck full of gold bars up to his ranch, hold his dog to ransom, threaten to leak photographs of him and Fisher snorting lines of coke off each others' ass cracks backstage at Elstree in '82; whatever it takes.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Lindel-OFF!

    by Teddy Artery

    I will personally boycott the movie if he's attached to write.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:45 p.m. CST

    coke on carrie fisher's ass crack in 82 is a turn on for me

    by Stephen

  • Damon Lindelof should do fine with it. The guy can write, he just doesn't know when to stop yanking the audience's chain and just tell the damn story. I don't the next trilogy will be a 'shell game' likemost of his previous work. And Brad Bird directing? Shit! Even with a shit script he can make it cool. Ratatouille was suppose to be headed for the dumpster when he saved it!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Brad Bird...

    by Darth Maui

    I have no proof of this whatsoever but going back to around 2005 I wanted to see Brad Bird direct a Star Wars film.

  • Toiling away 16 hours a day at new Star Wars scripts. Also, I never thought this theory would go beyond the talkbacks here. As for 1952. I think that actually sounds like a cool project if it is indeed based on the Washington flap and UFO lore. I need more than just Ancient Aliens and X-Files reruns for my alien lore/UFO conspiracy fix. So perhaps 1952 is legit? Or is it 1952: Blue Harvest Boogaloo? I think either way, Brad Bird and Damon Lindelof on Star Wars Ep. VII or this 1952 project could be good times at the theater.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Star Wars X-treme - the Lindelof vision

    by evergreen

    Yo, I ain't goin' out like that

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:58 p.m. CST

    coke on carrie fisher's ass crack in 82

    by lv_426

    The next great talkbacker handle.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 2:58 p.m. CST

    The 7 key ingredients to a succesful Star Wars spinoff are:

    by Quarantine

    1) Strong mythology at its core. A New Hope worked because it was basically Joseph Campbell's research on mythology set in Space complete with princesses, orphans who become heroes and (essentially) a large fortress in space. A new Star Wars film shouldn't simply re-invent those same mythological elements. It should seek out new (old) ones and pull from other myths and timeless stories to create an entirely new story for us all. 2) 50 shades of grey. No, not the book. The prequels were all about the good guys being extremely good (white) and the villains being completely bad (black). But ANH and ESB also had some shades of Grey because of the characters of Han and Lando. Even C3P0, due to him being less heroic than R2, was a shade of grey. He was more of a coward and a reluctant participant in the whole journey. The prequels only became more interesting as characters became more complex (from cardboard to slightly 3D) in Revenge of the Sith. These new Star Wars movies will need some other characters that audiences can relate to with some shades of grey to them. 3) A strong villain with a clear goal that has stacked the odds against our heroes in a way that seems insurmountable. The original Star Wars was rebellious. It was literally a band of rebels going up against an empire. The prequels lacked this. We kept watching just to see how all the dots connected because we knew that they did but there was no tension specifically because we knew that Palpatine would become emperor no matter what and Vader would become Vader. A new Star Wars film needs a new villain to come along and pose a legitimate threat to the characters and people in a way that is believable but also terrifying. We don't want to be hearing about politics. We want to see a ruthless villain enslaving and destroying planets. Anything less has already been done. 4) Charm/strong group dynamic with some in-fighting, disagreement, and joking around along the way. Again, the prequels lacked this. 5) A nice mixture of different genre elements all packed into one. The jedi training scenes were like old samurai movies. The ship scenes were better than car racing scenes or warfare scenes in other films. The Death Star scenes were like a prison camp break in and escape movie. The playfulness of the group was like an old western. Star Wars worked because they used to feel like they ultimate movies. They had elements of everything you liked in other movies all put into one. 6) Splendor and wonder. I'll hand it George and the ILM crew here. The Prequels still had this but because of the CG revolution we all sort of rebelled against it. CG is better now and the Trek proved that guys in makeup and costumes can be merged with CG effectively. The wookies in ROTS also looked great. 7) Some romance doesn't hurt when the chemistry seems solid. Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford did seem to have a legitimately playful kind of sexual tension going that was believable enough that you could accept it. The prequels lacked that. Star Wars fans everywhere understand that these are the ingredients that made Star Wars what it was. It wasn't just the Henson touch (though that helped), or the retro look (that's nostalgia). It was all these other elements combining and they still can combine again. Let's hope that these guys get it and that we get all these elements again.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3 p.m. CST

    Luke & Anakin

    by DaBUU

    Will we get to see Luke communing with Anakin? That would be cool, wouldnt even mind Hayden Christiansen in that capacity.

  • The key to good direction is rising above a script and that's exactly what Bird did with MI GP. Every action scene was handled about as well as it possibly could be done by just about anybody out there. A good director can deliver the potential of what's in a script. A special director can rise above it. One of the reasons people in the industry are high on Bird is because he seems capable of rising above and overachieving.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:05 p.m. CST

    @kremzeek

    by shran

    But if you don't care about any of this then you are obviously not the target audience. Perhaps I am more what the producers would be looking for in a "target audience" (well me and a new generation of kids who were misled into thinking that eps I thru III were their chance at Star Wars). And clearly, judging from the majority opinion here that would like to see at least some reference to the characters that helped to make eps IV thru VI the gigantically popular trilogy it was, it is an opinion shared. To clarify what I was dreaming about I would like to see the original characters used to bridge the gap to new characters. I don't think it's a good idea to toss the characters of Luke, Han and Leia aside and go with new actors and/or characters right from the start. Continuity and familiarity are important in making this idea work. If you don't think that the prospect of seeing Hamill, Fisher, and Ford reprise their roles one more time is basically a license to print geek money then these new movies are not for you.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:07 p.m. CST

    RE: Paul WS Anderson made good movies?

    by evergreen

    Event Horizon and Soldier. Pandorum had its moments. Event Horizon would have been more awesome if conservative moral scolds hadn't thrown a hissy fit.

  • Honestly, who else jumps out at you? And if nobody else does, are you honestly telling me you'd feel more comfortable with a complete unknown penning it?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:08 p.m. CST

    booger_t only 2 imo

    by Kakii

    Mortal Kombat - cheesey but a kind of that bad its good kinda film Event Horizon was good, shame he couldnt keep up the quality of that film, it was a really good sci fi horror.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:08 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    LV, did you know thats its impossible to copyright or trademark numbers? So... if say a massive corporation were to make a movie called 1952 say.. and they wanted this movie to include toy lines and video games and theme park rides... that massive corporation would have no copyright or control over that movies title. Do you think that massive corporation would want to do that? And why dont you try typing www.1952.com into your browser and see what comes up?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:11 p.m. CST

    quarantine, it doesn't have to be a name screenwriter

    by Margot Tenenbaum

    It doesn't even have to be someone who's worked in the genre. That's the kind of small thinking that would lead to them hiring Lindelof.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:14 p.m. CST

    sheeit somehow i missed that he did those movies

    by Stephen

    i guess there had to be a reason he's working.

  • The original script for Die Hard with A Vengeance was "Simon Says" set in a different universe with different characters. The basic premise could be maintained with new characters, planets, spaceships, jedi influences introduced. Wouldn't be unheard of.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Star Wars - Episode VII: Splinter Of The Minds Eye...

    by Darkness

    Might as well...you can most definitely take the Star Wars saga down the Star Trek route, but with obvious trepidation. i hope George knows what he is doing. Disney has the key.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Vader WILL be in the next trilogy (read)

    by KonkBob

    Disney already produced a cutesie video of Vader in the theme parks. There is zero chance the suits at Disney do not include a fan favorite, iconic character. Especially when they are set with the task of recouping $4 billion dollars.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:18 p.m. CST

    cobra--kai -- good points

    by lv_426

    When I type in www.1952.com I get sent to one of those *is this your domain* pages. I did a domain search for 1952.com, and someone has it, so that could be Disney I guess. Of course, if they were going to all this trouble in the first place, they'd probably get the domain name reserved to complete the trick. That is if this is all some Blue Harvest style smokescreen. Your first point about copyrighting or trademarking numbers is what really makes me wonder. Of course, someone will chime in and say that 1952 is still a codename for a movie, just a non-Star Wars related one. Interesting to think about though.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Vader very well could be back

    by Samuel Fulmer

    A new Sith shows up wearing a suit similar to Vader's. It's all a way of the Sith to make Luke go WTF? Happens in comics all the time.

  • Star Wars benefits from peer review

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:22 p.m. CST

    1952 is definitely a code name

    by Stephen

    or a working title. they aint gonna name no "tentpole film" fucking 1952

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:23 p.m. CST

    They don't need to get those specific people, of course

    by Margot Tenenbaum

    peers of whoever ends up making it

  • LFoDH was based on a Wired article, which initially started as an original script called WW3.com. I believe the Will Smith I, Robot was also based on a different spec script, but then had some of the Asimov robot concepts grafted onto it.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Lucas Force Ghost Directs & Vader does return!

    by T

    Lucas is one sneaky mofo! He won't be just a consultant. Vader will return in some capacity... Hell, I want the Emperor to return as well. I am glad it's not going to be a Thrawn thing... and despite my love for Dark Empire; I really don't want that either. On an unrelated note; I had thought the Clone Wars animated had gotten quite well, until his offspring started writing the scripts. I haven't seen the new season, but Darth Maul redux was very lame. Not against the re-use of him, just the execution that I saw. Another epi that I watched, the one with Ventress & the train was inexpicably bad... Ventress fighting hand to hand with light sabers at her waiste; ridiculous! Also penned by Miss Lucas!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:27 p.m. CST

    It's David Fincher

    by Jak

    Variety reports that, while Fincher waits for a draft of the The Girl Who Played with Fire script, Disney has put a three-month hold on the filmmaker... The project hasn’t been given the official ‘go-ahead’ yet, but Disney asked Fincher to hold off on pursuing other projects in the meantime. He isn't returning for "The Girl Who Played with Fire" Fincher is doing Episode 7, but not hired for 8 and 9. Fincher worked on "Return of the Jedi", he already has the roots. -Hollywood Pulse

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Screw that, here's a theory that'll hold water....

    by groorgman

    Remember Tron Legacy? Probably not, given the usual crowd here. Anyways remember what they did digitally to Jeff Bridges in the first scene? Made him look young. Guess what? The entire cast of Star Wars is getting a call back and they will all be digitally altered. On top of that the three movies will Age them to their current state of being. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, roll what's left over.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:28 p.m. CST

    The other LOST producer

    by Dawhiteguy

    Is a well known food critic on the TRAVEL channel, right?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST

    >>>>'fan-favorite film writer Damon Lindelof'....Wait, WHAT?

    by Bricklyne

    When did this happen? Which "fans" are these you speak of? And do they know the meaning of the word "favorite"? Seriously thought, Lindelof is monitoring this Talkback as a potential suicide note? Don't tease us Damon.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:31 p.m. CST

    If true, this would be amazing

    by RongoRongoMu

    Lindelof is one of the few who still "gets" this kind of movie. LOST will always be his baby, but he made a wonderful mark on the Alien series, and if he can do the same for Star Wars, maybe we can begin to forget the prequels.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:32 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    groorgman, yes the uncanny valley Jeff Bridges in TRON LEGACY has gone through my mind too since hearing this news. It is one potential way of bringing back Leia, Luke and Han - but it looked so lame in TRON I pray to god that they dont do it!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:32 p.m. CST

    They just need to watch the Plinket reviews

    by evergreen

    It's not really that complicated.

  • Serious question. Between Firefly and The Avengers Joss is the closest thing there is to writing stuff like the original trilogy these days.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:33 p.m. CST

    lv_426 - i dont think they have that domain

    by Kakii

    Its not registered with their usual company, ok that could be to keep it as secret as possible, however they use the same company as the one I work for. So Im doubtful it is theirs, plus why buy a domain for a code name?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:35 p.m. CST

    If Kurtzman, Orci, Lindelof or Abrams come anywhere near this

    by kwisatzhaderach

    the Salman Rushdie Satanic Verses incident will look like a walk in the park.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:35 p.m. CST

    The Jedi with the Jabba Tattoo

    by lv_426

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Cobra--Kai

    by groorgman

    No doubt it was lame. The technology has progressed....two years now? And after all it didn't stop them from doing it in Tron lol.

  • Whether or not this is debunked, at this time, it seems reasonable. LOST went from a decent time waster with great characters to worste waste of time ever in it's denouement... everytime the LOST commercial comes up on HULU, I blanche! I didn't hate Cowboys & Aliens as much as some, but it was forgettable... especially the Alien parts!!! Prometheus was just a waste of potential, in that, I don't entirely blame Lindeoff either, but still, it carries a stink. Brad Bird made MI4 pretty darn entertaining, and I had waited til DVD to watch it as I am not a big MI fan.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:37 p.m. CST

    It's actually a prequel for American Graffiti

    by Teddy Artery

    Bet on it.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Get Darabont/Fincher/Blomkamp

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Serious, visionary filmmakers, not fanboy hacks.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:38 p.m. CST

    just saw this on a video game site

    by Captainhindsite

    In a move that will no doubt eventually have an impact on video gaming, Disney purchased Lucasfilm this week for a bajillion-kajillion dollars, enough to run a presidential campaign for three weeks. Already announced is the upcoming film Star Wars: Episode VII and game Lego Angry Birds Star Wars Clubhouse: Goofy and Jar Jar’s Excellent Adventure. It’s better with Kinect®.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Forget the sequels...Make it an epic Jedi origin story

    by Paul

    Epic like LOTR but in the Star Wars universe. Hero is a young man who "discovers" the force through trial and enlightenment a-la Buddha and becomes the first Jedi. Eventually he lead the rise against his sith equivalent. (His friend or brother perhaps who chose the dark side.) Trilogy about the battles between the Jedi (led by their Buddha figure) and the Sith. (led by theirs) Construction of the first light saber, introduction of Yoda as one of the first disciples would be some of the other tie ins.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Fincher wouldn't shock me

    by Samuel Fulmer

    As noted he started out working at Lucasfilm back in the early 80's. Also he recently tried getting a 3-D 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea off the ground with Disney, and it looks like it's on hold for now. Maybe in order to get that made, he does Star Wars?????

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:41 p.m. CST

    mrsalamander

    by kwisatzhaderach

    There is no doubt an ancient origins Jedi/Sith film will be made at some point.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Fincher is a terrrrible choice

    by Stephen

    so is Nolan. for the same reasons.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Maybe a co-directing thing

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Brad Bird directs the action/suspense set pieces and get Frank Darabont to come in and direct the dramatic scenes.

  • It's when he has to hand over his creative control to the morons behind the movies he took on that everything goes to hell. He nailed his episodes in Lost repeatedly for years and pretty much shaped genre TV in the US for a decade. When he is in control of the decision making he is one of the absolute best you could get.

  • It was a Star Wars wannebe. I don't care if the audiece licked the screen after it was over... George may have disappointed me with the prequel trilogy, but really, I think he just needed more time to get the rust off; ROTS was quite good in ways that JJ can only dream of. Yes, it was still bad too; George needs someone to balance him. As long as he still breathes, I sincerely doubt he'll NOT have some heavy fingerprints on the 7-9. After that though... ~shrugs~

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:49 p.m. CST

    a g

    by kwisatzhaderach

    No. Everything he has ever written is total gash.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:50 p.m. CST

    it is beyond me what people see in Revenge of the Sith

    by Stephen

    that movie is the worst of the the worst. eps 1 and 2 are even better than that POS

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:52 p.m. CST

    It's never Lindelof's fault.

    by Margot Tenenbaum

    One thing that qualifies him for writing Star Wars is that his contempt for the audience equals Lucas' Whedon, for all of his cutesy dialog tics, actually delivers the goods with a minimum of stringing things along for no reason.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:52 p.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach (fuck that name btw) NO

    by A G

    Lost is easily one of the best television shows ever made even if the final season was mostly terrible. It's insane on a site like this that Lost is now slated so hard when it was worshiped like the 2nd coming for 6 years. Lindelof's episodes on Lost were amazing. I agree that his film work has been poor however and I don't like Cowboys and Aliens and I hate Prometheus. But face it, when he has full creative control he can and does make amazing genre work.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:52 p.m. CST

    I always liked the Jedi Knight video game storyline

    by animas

    where Luke was head of the Jedi Academy and they went around finding Imperial forces. Just because they blew up the Death Star doesn't mean it is over. They have bases all over the galaxy.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Who stopped him from making the final season of Lost good?

    by Margot Tenenbaum

    He was the fucking producer of the show.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Fincher's style is too dark for Ep. 7

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    Maybe he'd be a good choice if they're going to do an Empire-type thing for Ep. 8. Ep. 7, however, needs someone who could bring back the fun, adventure, derring do and witty character banter of ANH - and that's Whedon, Bird, or Spielberg.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:01 p.m. CST

    chris columbus

    by Captainhindsite

    Could be good with the whole jedi school Luke as teacher thing

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:02 p.m. CST

    =Damon Lindelof is a fucking KING writer=

    by evergreen

    Hi Damon. Two things i could do without: 1) Major plot points suddenly appearing out of Damon Lindelof's ass. 2) Any further shaping of genre TV by Damon Lindelof.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:06 p.m. CST

    I don't have any problem with Lindelof...

    by Hugh G Rekshun

    I like pretty much everything he's done. LOST is an icon with a style that has now been copied over and over. The problem wasn't the writing (which was fucking great). It was the fact that they wrote themselves into a corner. It's a miracle they kept that show fresh while making all that shit up as they went along...that takes talent. As for Prometheus...the non-ending was on purpose, to set up the next movie (as others have said). Anyone complaining that Lindelof doesn't finish the stories should (at the very least) understand that EP7 will likely have no true ending anyway...since the whole fucking thing will be designed as another trilogy.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:08 p.m. CST

    David Fincher is busy

    by SminkyPinky

    He's making 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea. NEXT.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:08 p.m. CST

    This guy has no idea what he's talking about

    by therightclique

    He doesn't even know that all Star Wars movies are released in May. I'd take everything he says with a grain of salt, at the very best.

  • You have carte blanche to write whatever you want and then blame us (the producers) for fucking you over when you get criticized. Here's seven figures.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Luke---Anakin---Emperor---Darth Plagueges(sp?)

    by T

    Maybe that seed planted in Episode 3 will finally bear some more fruit other than some weak sauce for Anakin's turn... I see a New Republic with a New Jedi Order; attacked from within, an assassin, taking out Jedi's, and without, a rival for the resources of the Galaxy, perhaps a new Sith Empire, perhaps not. Luke, maybe retired, is drawn out by the death of prize pupil, has to train a difficult student to help him unravel the threat to the Galaxy & himself. Return the Force to something that is STRONG in someone without the necessity of that dang midichlorian count. Perhaps, the new student is WEAK in the force but must defeat someone new VADER with Knowledge & Wisdom of the force.

  • Besides, Disney will want to give the Avengers 2 some breathing room.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Chris Columbus did some Disney movies

    by animas

    he would be good.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:16 p.m. CST

    cobra_kai = retard MI4 = limp dick Brad bird = disney's dildo

    by wannabedirector

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:17 p.m. CST

    20,000 Leagues was just recently put on hold by Disney

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Maybe because they want him to do a new Star wars first???

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Luke heads back to dagobah, finds...

    by nametaken

    the head of the statue of liberty. it was earth all along.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:24 p.m. CST

    He did fine with Hp

    by Captainhindsite

    I think with the right writing he would at least pull off the first one and then hand off to joss

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Damon shoots two hour steamy pile of shit....

    by groorgman

    Sticks a plastic light saber in it as the steam rises.... All you haters still fork up 15 bucks to get the 3D treatment AND buy the large bucket of popcorn with the bladder buster coke on the side. FACT!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:35 p.m. CST

    message from 2015

    by Harrison_Snored

    It was good! It wasn't as great as Empire Strikes Back, but we all knew that going in. The action was awesome, obviously, and that part where Old Man Luke reveals himself to be a Jedi by force-lifting the Millennium Falcon out of the sand was EPIC! I'll always remember the look on the twins faces as they realize their useless, crazy old uncle, is actually THE Jedi master. My complaints; those damn twins! I knew going in that Disney would have a couple of youthful leads, and I was real happy they cast teenagers instead of straight up children, but they never put them in any real DANGER, like getting squished in a trash compactor. (No, hanging off one of the trees in Dagobah DOESNT count, Luke was somersaulting off those bad boys, and HE never got any formal training either.) I guess they had to play it safe, but I think Finding Nemo had more danger in it than this one. It'll get better as the kids get older, I know. And Luke was pretty whiny back in the day, so it makes sense i s'pose. Overall, it was great to see Star Wars on the screen again. Im real glad they toned down the ridiculous lightsaber fight scenes from the prequels (actually showing your fighters get sweaty and tired is a big plus!) and the sheer joy of seeing the Millennium Falcon back on the screen was worth the $25 ticket price. (Yes I went 3D, had to). P.S. I was going to do the AMC 6 movies in one day event, but then I realized I have them all at home (and I hate the 'restored' versions).

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:37 p.m. CST

    hugh g rekshun

    by evergreen

    They wrote themselves into a corner because they weren't honest. As a comparison: I just started re-watching B5. Within the first 10 minutes of episode 1, Londo basically tells you how it all ends. You don't realize that until you watch the whole thing. Lindelof is just a greasy pimp who spends more time reading marketing projections than examples of quality fiction.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Whedon is the obvious #1 choice but he's out so we have to move on

    by Quarantine

    Whedon's pretty much every fanboy's #1 pick but he'll be busy with other projects so he seems out.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:41 p.m. CST

    This is also NOT a job for M. Night either.

    by planetran_fan

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Planetran_fan

    by Captainhindsite

    forgot about home alone like him even more now

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:45 p.m. CST

    @shran: I get what you're saying, however...

    by Kremzeek

    Maybe I'm not the "target audience", but these actors are just too old now. It sucks. I wish they weren't, Lucas took WAAAAAAAY too long to continue their story. So, if it *must* be Luke, Han, Leia AGAIN, then they need to recast them with younger actors--as has been suggested here more than once. If I'm to get excited about SW again, it needs to be something worth my while. Lucas really made me HATE SW. I mean, loathe it. I can't stand it anymore. But this Disney acquistion has the hope of moving the franchise forward in a way that doesn't utterly suck. So, for that, I guess I'm am excited. But I'm nowhere near likeing SW as a whole. That day may come again, but I'm going to need to see more evidence Disney is righting the ship. Things are looking up so far though. =)

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:47 p.m. CST

    hey mel gibsteinberg...thanks for being a moron...

    by Executor

    ...with your snarky answer that fails to address the key thing here: the fact that they announced the Lindelof/Bird movie to the trades ages ago. If (as even your scenario asserts) lawyers were huddled around shrouding everything in secrecy, why was this "spec script" released to the trades? Why was it announced in the first place? And wouldn't they just announce it along with everything else? That is my point. If the Lindelof/Bird script were indeed part of the Lucas deal, it would been (a) either announced as such or (b) the original sale would have been shrouded in secrecy. PLUS...now here is the part where you are really a moron...listen carefully: THE SCRIPT WAS FINISHED BEFORE THERE WAS A DEAL FOR LUCASFILM. To answer your earlier question, I am in THIS business, and I am old enough to know how it works, and the fact is that no one is paying ANYONE to write a spec Star Wars script until the deal is done. It doesn't make sense that THREE MONTHS ago they made a deal with Lindelof to write the script in ANTICIPATION of closing a deal with Lucas. So, in closing, kindly shut the fuck up. Moron.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Del Torro Please

    by Paul

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Why does STAR WARS 7 have to be a sequel???

    by Goose

    If they were smart.....they would go OLD REPUBLIC and go all badass on the EXAR KUN Storyline. Only 2 Sith is too limiting...we want all out galactic warfare between jedis and sith...not jedis with clone troopers against a bunch of robots.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST

    message from 2017

    by Harrison_Snored

    Woah! How dark was THIS one! When they announced Fincher to direct everyone (including myself) was pretty happy about it. But man, he took this film into directions I never thought possible in a SW film, adn Im so happy for that. Personally, I liked the higher level of intense danger (read my previous review for thoughts), it helps solidify my connection for the twins (who were much better here, btw), and even though i knew one of the would have to turn to the dark side, it still made my heart hurt when he disappeared into the cave. (And the Vader cameo! Brilliant!) Im so so glad they didn't have anyone getting beheaded though (ala Ep3), hands and arms can be just as dramatic without crossing that 'too dark' line. While I was sad to see Luke fall, it was definitely the great end the Jedi Master deserves. I heard some people complaining that the funeral was too grandiose. Really!? This is Star Wars, and the leader of the Jedi Rebirth just sacrificed himself to save an entire population of helpless creatures, of course its going to be huge. And they had it on that planet because that's what he would have wanted. Im real curious to see what happens with the third. Of course it's going to be brother vs sister, the epic duel, but it beter not take place on a lava planet or I'm gonna be PISSED!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Yawwwwwwwnnnnn. Did you say something? Huh?

    by grendel69

    Star Wars = a dead horse.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:02 p.m. CST

    I'm liking these...

    by Jak

    message from 2019, please.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:05 p.m. CST

    @gooniegoogoo: Don't agree, man. Not what I want

    by Kremzeek

    I want a SW that focuses on characters again--not how many things we can vomit on the screen. That includes Jedi/Sith. All those "epic battles" are emotionless, soulless, and dissatisfying. Now, I'll admit the whole fight between the Jedi and Darth Maul in EP1 was pretty outstanding. Very well done (one of the only things done well in the prequels). If you're talking about more individual fights like that, then cool. I'm down. But if you're talking about armies of Jedi/Sith... what's the difference between them fighting each other or fighting with or against clones or droids? Everything is just made up in the computer so I don't care. It's just pixels fighting pixels.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:06 p.m. CST

    1952 is not Episode VII

    by Hercules

    Disney hired Lindelof to write 1952 in June 2011. Lindelof completed the 1952 script in March. Disney didn't close the deal to acquire Lucasfilm until this week. Disney is cheap. They're not going to commission a Star Wars script from an expensive writer a year and a half before they close the deal to acquire Lucasfilm.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:12 p.m. CST

    That proves nothing, Herc

    by Kremzeek

    I'm not saying this account *is* EP7, but your logic as to why it's not doesn't make sense to me. I highly doubt Disney decided within the last couple weeks to buy LucasFilm. I'm sure it's been in-the-making for a long while now. Who's to say they weren't planning ahead? It's not like Disney doesn't already have close ties with Lucas himself. So far, I see no evidence to disprove this "theory" of LV's. Again, not saying it's true. But your argument isn't very strong to the contrary.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Hercules, I give you Exhibit A and Exhibit B

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/10/new-star-wars-trilogy/ and http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/05/lost-gets-a-letter-from-george-lucas.html Let the talkback jury decide (god help us!!!)

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher could both work out fine in small cameos,

    by hollywoodsummers

    Just put them on the master cleanse / cabbage soup diet for a month, a little nip/tuck, a tan and a fresh coat of paint and good to roll for a scene or two. If it's still a little dicy, throw in some jedi hoods and a cheese cloth over the lens. No worries.

  • And they satisfied him so the deal went through?

  • Now, Prometheus might be a Ridley Scott abberation, and Lindelof got caught up in it, but his name attached to Star Wars doesn't fill me with confidence. Not that Star Wars was literature, but the dialogue made sense and the characters acted consistently.

  • This disney/Lucasfilm deal has obviously been in the works for quite a while Disney also seemed super ready to go with ep 7 8 9 as soon as the deal was inked and the announcement made which means they've already had people working on it to some extent -Lindeloff and Bird both have a relationship with Disney/abc -Lindeloff, whatever people may think of him is well known as a star wars fan -Lucas is a fan of Lost All this talk of 1952 as a multi platform big event multi movie franchise always seemed like it had to have something behind it, though it was never clear what.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:18 p.m. CST

    herc should read that interview with mark hamil

    by animas

    he said lucas told them last year they were already planning 7,8,9.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Unless Disney's rebooting John Carter

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    Hey, I wouldn't put it past the film industry these days!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:22 p.m. CST

    wait.

    by Hercules

    did Lucas tell Hamill and Fisher August 2012 or August 2011?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Regarding SW and theme rides...

    by Kremzeek

    Let's not forget that Disney and Lucas have been working very closely the last couple years to revive the Star Tours ride. There were talks of additional SW-related Disney rides when they completed the refit. So, to me, it makes perfect sense that they commissioned someone to write a SW script way before this acquisition was announced. They were already talking with George constantly to make sure the new ride met his approval. So, I think it's highly likely talks for the future of SW started a couple years back. Now, we know for sure there will be more SW-related rides... and LV's theory falls right into that. Again, this may NOT be SW7--and that's fine by me. I'm not rooting for it one way or the other. Just saying there's more "evidence" to support 1952 being a SW-related script than there is against (as of right now, anyway--that could change, of course).

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:23 p.m. CST

    My money's on Spielberg directing..

    by darthwaz1

    Since he's always wanted to, and did some prelim on ROTS

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:23 p.m. CST

    I still have faith in Lindelof.

    by Still_A_Lostie

    The guy write LOST for all those years. Maybe Prometheus was a flop, but everyone has their moments.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:23 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    herc, explain the short timeframe. To all intents we're into 2013 now and this major tentpole, biggest film of the decade, is due in 2015. Where would you expect the production on EP VII to be at this stage? How also do you explain Mark Hamill's comments that he had lunch with Lucas in August 2011 and was told in confidence that Ep VII was on. ps. and as for Disney being too cheap to commission a writer on a not-quite-done-deal, well they did just spend over $4 billion dollars so perhaps they had a little bit spare?

  • The film is utter garbage. Boring, lifeless, and stupid. Thank fuck some fresh talent is being introduced to make the sequels. No matter who makes these films I don't see how they could possibly be worse then the prequels.

  • Brad Bird Guillermo Del Toro Gore Verbinski David Fincher Chris Nolan Alfonso Cuaron Rian Johnson Neill Blomkamp

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:26 p.m. CST

    I still have faith in Lindelof. - Why? What are his strengths?

    by Margot Tenenbaum

    What does he do that you like? I honestly would like to know what his fan likes about his work.

  • Characters were so inconsistent, behaviour illogical most episodes. It could be the directors as well, but it seemed most of the time characters acted to suit the plot and push plot points, rather than acting like they were real people.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:30 p.m. CST

    @hardboiled: Lindelof writes bad dialogue?

    by Kremzeek

    No he doesn't. His dialogue is, typically great (not always 100%--but who's is?) And you're telling me you'd rather have Lucas write the dialogue? I can't believe that for 1 second. ANYone can write better dialogue than Lucas, so anyone would be an improvement. Lindelof has a weakness or 2 (opening up large questions with no answers...ever), but other than that, his writing is superb. (Again, typically speaking--no one can write 100% greatness all the time.) Now, I'll agree the last season of Lost sucked. The show itself was not too bad, actually. I was intrigued by where it could all go. The problem is, once again in standard Lindelof-style though, he didn't take the story anywhere. And the finale only answered one question: What was going on with these characters throughout S6? It never answered any previous questions from any other season--and for that, it was a HUGE let down. HUGE. But his writing, as far as dialogue and over-all story, is actually pretty fantastic, IMO.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Please make it a new story and not a sequel

    by Paul

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:30 p.m. CST

    1952 keeps reminding me of Spielberg's 1941

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Poppycock

    by D.Vader

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:30 p.m. CST

    How about Timur Bekmambetov?

    by planetran_fan

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:32 p.m. CST

    They'll never let that hack anywhere near Star Wars.

    by Volllllume3

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:34 p.m. CST

    And lets be honest with ourselves: Lost fucking sucked.

    by Volllllume3

    The journey my ass.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:34 p.m. CST

    I'm putting serious money on Jennifer Lawrence to be one of Leia's kids,

    by hollywoodsummers

    And Michael Shannon to show up as a badass Sith Mutha Fucka at some point.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Forget Timur Bekmambetov,

    by hollywoodsummers

    If they want a ton of slo-mo, bullet time Jedi action they should just hire the Wachoski sisters.

  • S3 started to spiral downward. Then, they got back on track for S4 and esp. S5. The story was great for S6... until they ruined it all with the AWFUL finale. But to say the entire show "sucked" ... nah. Not even close.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Even if it is Lindelof, all is not Lost...

    by hollywoodsummers

    Writers can be fired or re-written all day long. No problem. It's a lot harder to fire a director and studios are nervous to do it because it's bad sign publicly.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:43 p.m. CST

    Luke, Han and Leia need to be the MAIN CHARACTERS

    by A G

    No matter how you try to introduce the plucky young lead and the quirky female asshole, these three are what people are paying to see. People will relish every scene they are in. The first review will specifically mention that there was not enough of these three. The designs of the sets and ships, clothing, HAIR, etc. needs to be straight from the original trilogy with NO prequel references. How can I put this bluntly: THIS FILM MUST FEEL LIKE IT WAS MADE IN 1992.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:44 p.m. CST

    LOST S6--let me reiteriate:

    by Kremzeek

    The stuff with Locke/Smokemonster was directionless and indeed pretty much sucked. I'll agree there. But the rest of what was going on with the "parallel" versions of each character... that was pretty sweet... until it went absolutely nowhere. Which also sucked. But again, to blanket the entire show as "it sucked"? It had low points, for sure, but it didn't outright suck. But to each their own.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:45 p.m. CST

    volllllume3 "Lost sucked" = i so hardcore

    by A G

  • I don't want to see old, decrepid Luke and Leia. I just don't. I don't want to see the roles recast either. I'd prefer they move away from the Skywalker story. But I'd rather see the roles recast then have Hamill/Fisher as main characters. Sad, but true. I'm down with the "no prequel" references though. Dear god those movies are TERRIBLE.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:49 p.m. CST

    *than* have... sorry, pet peeve

    by Kremzeek

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Lucas sold before the Obama tax increases hit in 2013...

    by Mistahtibbs

    ...he would have been raped...like childhood raped, financially. mt

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Ruh roh, another Lost argument

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    Kremzeek, I have it on good authority from David Fury that season 1 and 2 of Lost was made up as they went along, and Abrams wanted shit thrown in just to fuck with the audience's head, with no intention of ever explaining any of it. The fuckery was also helped that they didn't think it'd survive past season 1.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:52 p.m. CST

    by Dan

    Leia and Luke in the movie-yes...Old man Luke is a Jedi Mentor...Leia is the Head of State... Han is no where to be found because Ford is a grumpy prick.... *cue money truck backing up to his door.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Before you tubby losers start....

    by Dan

    Lucas is donating MOST of the sale to charity...

  • To say the least.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:56 p.m. CST

    @hardboiled: bah, that can be said of almost any show or film

    by Kremzeek

    I don't care if they were making it up as they went--as long as it's good. And S1-2 were great. But it was the never getting back to stuff that hurt the show, for sure. And in that respect, making it up as you go doesn't cut it. Look, I'm not saying Lost was perfect--of course it wasn't. But it was a HELL of a lot better than most shows in a lot of respects. But, as you said, this is turning into a Lost debate. Nobody's minds will be changed here. I'm going to continue loving the show overall, and you're not. Totally cool by me. I just think the hyperbole on this site is way out of hand with almost everything.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:58 p.m. CST

    zodlovesmaude...not quite...

    by Mistahtibbs

    he's channeling the funds into philanthropic projects. Stated "I am dedicating the majority of my wealth to improving education." Likely using a trust or organization he'll found and fund. Good luck with that, George. Considering how much money gets shoveled into public education moneypit in the US every year feel free to give your hard-earned cash to people who don't know how to effectively utilize it in the first place. *shakes head sadly and walks away.

  • Nobody cares that there wasn't a plan from the very start. The problem is that Lindelof didn't come up with a clever way to wrap up the threads they'd started. This is why the danglers in PROMETHEUS were so troubling to people and why the prospect of a STAR WARS SEQUEL TRILOGY PART I by Lindelof has people losing their minds. It fucking sucks as an audience member to be told that nothing we've been watching in act I & II ultimately means anything and that you're an asshole for wanting it to. This is how the LOST finale retroactively ruins the entirety of LOST. An example of a clever, genius wrap-up is what David Lynch did to the TV pilot MULHOLLAND DR.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Without a doubt some of the OG trilogy cast WILL return,

    by hollywoodsummers

    but not as main characters besides 3P-O and R2. I bet we'll see Fisher as Leia near the beginning as much as we saw Aunt Beru (maybe they'll even kill her off to get things really rolling!). Then we'll get a Hamill/Luke reveal in the 3rd act or last scene of Episode 7 which will get a huge audience cheer and get people pumped for episode 8. Han might show up in 8 unless he's dead already, in which case we'll get a ghost Yoda.

  • I dont hate on things to be cool or fit in. That's what "hating on" something is. I very seriously and in my heart of hearts think Lucas screwed SW up royally. Those films are just not good on any level--excepting a few moments of greatness, like the QuiGon, Kenobi, Maul saber fight. Truly, as a film lover, I can find no redeeming qualities (over all) to those films. And I will never watch them again. Cool if you can stomach them. But I'm not hating just to be "cool" or whatever. I legitimately think they fail as films--Star Wars or not.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:04 p.m. CST

    ACTUALLY, I bet Harrison would do Episode 7...

    by hollywoodsummers

    If they killed him off in the first act. He always wanted Han to die in Jedi anyway.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:05 p.m. CST

    As a coherent story, Lost sucked

    by evergreen

    It had some good standalones (I'm looking at you, Constant) but overall it was a narrative mess. Some plot lines went nowhere because of actors leaving without contingencies. Most of them never converged because the writers were confused weed heads making money for the first time. Money is always the problem.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:09 p.m. CST

    Lucas-Hamill-Fisher lunch was August 2012

    by Hercules

    Just got confirmation from Mark Hamill.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:13 p.m. CST

    Fincher is doing 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea?

    by grendel69

    Now, that is cool news.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:15 p.m. CST

    I'll never understand what anyone saw in LOST

    by grendel69

    Really... I have no idea. Another JJ Abrams suckfest it was.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:16 p.m. CST

    The REAL message from 2015

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    Hi everyone, this is George Lucas, last survivor of the human race, sending you these messages through the miracle of time travel. Sorry to report, but Episode VII never happened, just as I knew it wouldn't. My cryogenic chamber, buried deep within my indestructible titanium ark (constructed with the billions from my Disney deal), recently awakened me, and I am sad to report that the earth's surface has been destroyed, and the human race wiped out, due to the Mayan prophecy of December 20th, 2012 turning out to be accurate. Seth Rogen laughed at me when I told him it was true, but I knew that I, Emperor George Lucas of Planet Earth, would have the last laugh. That fat, pot smoking bastard! Anyway, since there's no one around to stop me anymore, I can reclaim the rights to Star Wars once again. I kept original negatives of the first six films in my ark for preservation. Now I can make more extreme changes to the OT, to a level never seen before, and make my own sequel trilogy featuring Jar Jar Binks as the lead, which was what I really wanted to do all along! Of course, there's no one to watch them. Don't worry; I've already thought of that. I have cloning technology and samples of my DNA preserved, too, so that I can repopulate the planet with my likeness. Since we will all think alike, there will be no one to bitch about what I do with SW from now on. In fact, all my clones/servants will approve and worship my future decisions. BWAAAAHHHHAAAAHAHHHHHAAA!!! You - the fanboys, Disney, the shareholders, etc. - are all suckers (and you're all going to die in just over a month's time, too!) So long, assholes!!! George Lucas, signing off.

  • I fear something terrible has happened. Was he our only hope? No there is another..... you damn skippy theres another!!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Lastly...

    by Dan

    For the misguided hate and stupid fury aimed at the prequels, well, that’s all on you…what else can be said, Lucas made those for himself, he answers to no one and either you dig them or you don’t. I found plenty to like and did something smart people do; I use the movie measuring stick, the kooky one with gradation scale and guess what- they are NOT the worst things in the history of ever… so learn to calm your emotions and put things in their proper context. There are far, far worse movies out there, I can name 100 that are far worse... watch them before making dumb over-the-top declarative statements from emotional terrorists. It's not the end of the world to be disappointed if that's the case. Just because your parents are divorced doesn't make you special.... Not everything Hobbit related is good and not everything Star Wars related is bad. I rule!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:20 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Herc, who ate what?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:24 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    And get hamill back on the phone and tell him that when he says last summer that means a year ago. What he should have said was this summer, meaning... Um.. This summer. Can't believe I have to teach proper English to a Jedi.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Are there genuinely still people around who think the prequels are the worst things ever?

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    Get a fucking clue - the prequels, flaws and all, are better than about 90% of movies that come out every summer. Whether that speaks to them being underrated, or more to the declining standards of genre entertainment, is up for debate. In any case, there are moments in them than hacks like Jar Jar Abrams could never reach. The fact of the matter is that TPM and Clones were mediocre films with some good moments sprinkled throughout. ROTS was a genuinely GOOD film, better than Jedi, and anyone who appraises the films with objective eyes can see that.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:34 p.m. CST

    kremzeek -

    by Dan

    Good. At least your honest. Totally disagree, but I do appreciate honesty, something these damn talkbacks lack... if they don't believe every lie they read, they make it up themselves. email me sometime, maybe I can convert you.... danturp72@gmail.com

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:35 p.m. CST

    zodlovesmaude - your agonizing butthurt amuses me

    by evergreen

    Are any of your top 10 favorite films not made by George Lucas?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:38 p.m. CST

    What does Super Shadow have to say about all this??

    by 3D-Man

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Halo 4! Halo 4! Halo 4!

    by baldalienprobeinhighheels

    Seriously, fuck Star Whores folks. The best Sci-Fi stories are being told through video games these days. Check out this review, NOW! http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/01/halo-4-review

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Why the fuck is ANYONE even thinking about the prequels????

    by hollywoodsummers

    THERE'S GOING BE SEQUELS TO THE GOOD ONES!!!!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Can we focus on the REALLY important question?!

    by groorgman

    Will there be blue milk?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Ratner or Anderson?

    by grassh0pperunit

    Disney is not going to bring in Brett Ratner or Paul W.S. Anderson to run things? I think they're blowing a huge opportunity to have some exceptional talent take point on the relaunch of Star Wars. www.nonipplesonthesuit.com

  • And my parents have been married for almost 40 years... so uh... whatever, man. I have no problem with you liking the prequels. Go right ahead. Not sure why it bothers you that I don't like them, though.

  • Take the man off your shitlist, it's fucking pathetic now... disturbing actually.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Hahah! Kurtz? HAHHAAAA!

    by Dan

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:51 p.m. CST

    @zod: My apologies for one thing:

    by Kremzeek

    I just now saw your post with your email. That was cool of you. Maybe you weren't directing the "your parents are divorced, etc etc" at me. If not, my bad on that one.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Who is slamming Lucas for his education thing? No one.

    by Margot Tenenbaum

    kremzeek & zodlovesmaude are you talking to anyone but yourself?

  • I think most of us would be pretty tight IRL. Most of us like/loathe the same things. We all love film or we wouldn't be here. But yet we argue like a bunch of 5 yr olds. Human nature on the interwebs, I guess.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 6:58 p.m. CST

    =most of it to charity=

    by evergreen

    He's donating a portion. There is no dollar figure cited. The majority quote is from 2010, when he signed the Warren Buffet and Bill Gates Giving Pledge. I would imagine the only people slamming him for that would be Romney supporters.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 7:03 p.m. CST

    So here's some more directors names to throw out there...

    by notspock2

    Has anyone suggested Matthew Vaughn? He did a great job with First class, Kick Ass and Stardust and I think he could handle do a great job Of course if Disney want to bring respectability back to the saga immediately, they should get Scorsese on the phone, after Hugo, I think he could pull this off with aplomb and the name alone would make the world sit up and take notice. The Aformentioned Brad Bird would be a good choice for director, but Lindelof as a writer would be a terrible, terrible choice. Having said all that, I'd be surprised if Disney hasn't got Joss Whedon locked in room somewhere beating this thing into shape. Everyone knows he'd do a great job on the script and characters, and lets be honest, that's what they absolutely MUST get right. Am finding it hard to believe but I'm actually excited about more Star Wars...

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 7:05 p.m. CST

    If Damon Lindelof is such a shitty writer ...

    by Hercules

    why is the great Brad Bird directing one of his scripts?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Holy crap Hamill is far from his Corvette Summer days

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

    God this guy looks old now and is making me feel old. Okay, it is plan B folks. Put Episode VII 200 years after ROTJ and make Luke Skywalker either an ancient Jedi Master or even better make him the new Emperor. He won't need much makeup.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 7:09 p.m. CST

    In 1906, Tesla was 50, but DEAD in 1952. What could it mean?

    by animatronicmojo

    @thenewcastleincident: Where exactly do you get this information for your little "FYI" that "1952" is now called "Tesla?" "2244 Tesla" is an asteroid discovered in 1952 and named for Nikola Tesla"- is that what you meant? <BR> Yes, "1906" has been in development for years, and there is still no start date. Based on the novel/treatments by James Dalessandro- a kind of "Titanic" story about the San Francisco Earthquake. Sounds incredibly ambitious, but WILL IT BE IN Sensurround!?! <BR> So, what the hell is "1952?" We know the following: Brad Bird is directing, it's "sci-fi," oh so tentpolicious, Lindeloff is writing (with EW's Jeff Jensen) and "producing from the ground up." <BR> BUT Vulture also reported on 10/17/12 that... "It will be set largely in the present day.... Our spies tell us that Bird and Lindelof want to recapture the spirit of 1977’s Close Encounters of the Third Kind, right down to centering it around a man in his late forties, à la Richard Dreyfuss’s Roy Neary." BUT, as they had mistakenly reported earlier, "it is not in fact about an alien encounter." Also... <BR> "While our sources maintain that the film is NOT set in 1952, there is an intriguing backstory to the title. We hear that last spring, when Lindelof had a meeting to discuss the project with Disney’s head of production, Sean Bailey, the Disney exec arranged for Lindelof to be given access to one of the studios odder curiosities: a banker’s box of files and documents that had been left moldering in Walt Disney’s personal development lab, WED Enterprises, which later became the studio’s vaunted Imagineering department. The box was originally labeled with the title of the studio’s 1965 comedy That Darn Cat!, which had been crossed out and in its place was written “1952.” Inside was a random-at-first-glance collection of documents and primary source materials that, when looked at all together, indicated that someone had been working on a project (movie? theme park ride?) about alien contact." OK, whatever- I'd say THAT, my friends, is a red herring. Also... <BR> "We hear that the collaborators are planning an elaborate, very J.J. Abrams–like advanced marketing campaign that will start before filming even begins. The idea is to stage a treasure hunt for intrigued moviegoers that will gradually reveal clues about and build intrigue for the film right up until its release, and which may or may not be related to the contents of the box." Wow! Doesn't that sound JUST FUCKING AGGRAVATING!!! <BR> So, in sum, nobody who can say really knows at all what "1952" is except that it's a "BIG" production, and that there's all manner of horseshit flying around about it with tons more getting loaded into the flying horseshit cannon- which, IMO, does lend some credence to your theory, LV_426.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Uwe Boll is the Director. He has VII letters in his name

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 7:13 p.m. CST

    I loved Iron Giant and Incredibles, but MI3 was just plain BAD.

    by Raptor Jesus

    It was a soul-less, uninspired by-the-numbers generic action movie. So I'm hoping the Brad Bird talk doesn't pan out.

  • Same reason why the great Ridley Scott also made a movie from a shit script by Lindelof. Politics, man, it's all politics.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 7:14 p.m. CST

    obiwanna

    by Raptor Jesus

    Yeah, I'm seriously wondering about the wisdom of putting Mark in this. Personally I'm sick of the Skywalkers, Chewie, Yoda, the whole bunch. New characters, PLEASE.

  • the LOST finale happened.

  • thats the pattern created by the previous 2 trilogies, and makes the most sense with the generational aspect the real issue is what to do for bad guys since RotJ really neatly wrapped up all the conflict in a nice little bow

  • I have never said Lindelof sucks, but I disliked both of his films so far. If he wrote something excellent, which would be great, why NOT have Bird direct? I'm all for 1952 being a great film, but I'm not convinced that this will be Star Wars and even if it were I think it's okay to be cautious even if Bird's an enthusiastic supporter.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 7:18 p.m. CST

    christ, what a shitstorm

    by Larry_Sanders

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 7:19 p.m. CST

    =why is the great Brad Bird directing one of his scripts? =

    by evergreen

    Damon Lindelof always makes money for his friends. What script?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 7:22 p.m. CST

    Hurray

    by _Lizarkeo

    For no specific reason ;-) Lost was an amazing team effort, we followed the characters first, the plot second, after a while. Damon was in great company (Carlton Cuse specially). About people worried about Mark and Carrie being too "out of shape", my lord, Avatar is already an old movie. Performance capture, jolly good people. People insulting The Bird makes me sad. The Iron Giant was one of the best movies from the last century. They. Must. See. It. Too bad Michael Kamen is dead. But Johnny still lives. Long live JW. SW without him wouldn't be the same. Cheers. Ah, almost forgetting: SW 7: The Bird SW 8: Iron Jim SW 9: Uncle Morty

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 7:28 p.m. CST

    we followed the characters first, the plot second == LIES this is spin.

    by Margot Tenenbaum

    Everyone talked about the fucking plot to the exclusion of anything else. Do you know anyone who was deeply involved with Jack's off-isalnd divorce story outside of how it might affect the island plot line? If you do, I have to ask one thing because I have been curious about this for years: what flavors of donuts did they serve in the lunch room at ABC?

  • You get Brad Bird as director, you also get a script doctor in the same package. And as anybody who ever had to suffer from some movie/TV show writen by Lindelof knows, a script doctor to correct Lindelof's scripting fuck ups is imperative.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 7:35 p.m. CST

    margot_tenenbaum - Bai Ling really tied the room together

    by evergreen

    And those were jelly donuts.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Maybe Andrew Stanton would also be a good choice

    by Kakii

    Hes done some good movies and a lot of people may not have appreciated it but JC was brilliant, he would seem like another good choice with the right material.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 7:38 p.m. CST

    Episode VII should start off with a huge battle

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

    that kicks off an invasion of the New Republic. No ship boarding scene or some Jedi in a conference room. Something that really kicks everyone in the balls and says this is Star Wars Good Vs Evil.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 7:40 p.m. CST

    FUNNY FUCKING FACT ABOUT THE WHOLE WHEDON = GOOD CHOICE, LINDELOF = BAD CHOICE ...

    by FuckOffChristopherNolanNutHuggers

    Lets for a moment, go with this online craze that Lindelof was soley responsible for Prometheus... Was the writing/story as bad as some of you geeks make it out to be? absolutley not. Just because a films central characters ask big questions and never get the answers by the end of the film, doesn't mean the film is bad. A film doesn't always have to have the answers straight out --- look at the great John Carpenter; the majority of his films are shrouded with mystery, even by the end. Hell, if it wasn't for a contract and an eager producer attempting to cash in on the success of 'Halloween', we never would have known why Michael "The Shape" Myers targeting Laurie Strode, Annie Brackett and etc, and that would have been fine. To relate to the topic, the original Star Wars films were also centered on mystery and an ongoing quest for truth; Luke's personal quest through out the trilogy meant tackeling lies, conspiracies, cover ups in which he gained peices of information slowly until the end of the 2nd act of Return of the Jedi. There's nothing wrong with a film maintaing it's sense of mystery. Sure, today's audiences want...or more or less, NEED to know everything right away, but there's no way in hell that Prometheus is even close to being concidered a bad movie or an example of bad writing. Ironically, for all the people trashing Lindelof and praising Whedon, Lindelof's script for Prometheus was smarter, far more complelling and a better Alien film then Whedon's hammy, un-interesting, mentally challenged script for Alien: Resurrection. Fact.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 7:43 p.m. CST

    NO JEDI CONFERENCE ROOMS EVER AGAIN!!!!

    by hollywoodsummers

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 7:44 p.m. CST

    I second that obiwanna--make it Mandalorians

    by paladinryan

    I want to see some Mandalorians fuck up some Jedi. And yes, resurrect Boba Fett.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 7:49 p.m. CST

    Lindelof is probably too busy!

    by Boborci

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 7:54 p.m. CST

    On another note, it will be wild to see...

    by NoHubris

    ...which director says no because of better offers to do other projects.

  • Please show your work.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 7:57 p.m. CST

    I hope Lindelof DOES end up writing Star Wars 7...

    by FuckOffChristopherNolanNutHuggers

    At least that will make on film in Summer 2015 that actually ATTEMPTS to tell a story.

  • The main problem with Prometheus is the breakdown into archetypes doing stupid things on cue like any generic slasher. Alien: Resurrection's problems had more to do with a French director being unfamiliar with the Alien oeuvre. I wouldn't fault the script. Either one is still better than Phantom Menace.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Prometheus is a good movie due to Ridley'

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

  • did and said the most stupid things in just about every scene. Interesting (unoriginal) ideas, cool design, SHIT SCRIPT. And I wanted SO bad to love that film.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:05 p.m. CST

    s skills as a Director not the writing

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

  • That being said, THE AVENGERS is 20 times the film PROMETHEUS is.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:09 p.m. CST

    Is Harry waiting...

    by KonkBob

    For his hands to heal from whacking off over this to pen his thoughts on the matter?

  • Having read it back in 1996, I was able to visualize the film and what it could have been, unlike people who probably read it after the fact and can't get the shitty existing film out of their heads. If it had been adapted to the screen as written, instead of being diluted by Jeunet's bizarre choices, it would have put the series back on track. In any case, Whedon's script was entertaining as hell, if not exactly cerebral, which is more than can be said about Lindelof's obtuse garbage which failed on both counts. It's a pity Whedon wasn't a director back then, because The Avenegers proves he can translate his material to the screen as it was intended, and with aplomb.

  • There are more memorable lines from that single movie than Episodes I-III combined.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Harry had a heart attack

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

  • Per Lindelof himself, they had to "make a story that stood on it's own". Well, that didn't happen. I'm all for making the audience interpret things in different ways, but that "mysteriousness" can only go so far. Now, that a sequel is happening, I think Prometheus is going to find lots of love in a couple years (as long as they don't keep stringing people along, of course). Lindelo's biggest fault as a writer--as I've said repeatedly--is he needs to learn how to answer questions he poses. Leave some unanswered, sure, but not nearly everything--which is what he tends to do. Other than that though, the film's story is fine. The acting is superb. The direction is, well... its Ridley. Not much more to say there. As far as people doing "stupid things". I've heard that a lot about Prometheus. One example people love to bring up is the geologist reaching for the obviously dubious cobra creature. My answer to that: Tell me a single "horror" flick where people don't do things you wouldn't do--those moments where in your head you're thinking "don't do that!!!" It's part of the experience of these types of films. I think a lot of us have forgotten that. But I digress. Those who hate the film will continue to hate it, and the opposite is likely true too. I'll take Prometheus over A:R any day of the week without blinking.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Harry Knowles is done...

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    If news of a Star Wars prequel trilogy cannot get him back in the fold, then it's clear he has no place on his own site anymore. Like Lucas, he should just sell this site to the highest bidder.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:14 p.m. CST

    sequel trilogy, not prequel

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    It was 1994 all over again, for a minute there.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:18 p.m. CST

    I'd hope that NO CURRENTLY BIG TIME WRITER is given this....

    by conspiracy

    This is basically a revival of Star Wars...almost a reboot. I don't want to be confronted by Hollywoods "Hot" writers stylings....I don't want to sit there and look for things I know these guys always throw in, or hear the same voices I've heard a half dozen times now. All writers do this...we see it in their films...characters that are different, yet those traces of familiarity are there. A Fingerprint if you will. In my opinion, if this renewal of Star Wars is to work...it will need a TOP NOTCH proven director....and a Fresh voice, or perhaps a voice not heard in awhile, writing the screenplay.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:20 p.m. CST

    I'm laughing....

    by DANGER_DIABOLIK_

    ...my arse off so so much.. .......... 'ag'.....fremgen'.....'cactus228'....'kremzeek'.......'guntermatey'....'margot tenenbaum'...... ....and I had literally NO idea that Damon Lindelof had so many user names/accounts on the AICN website...wow!!!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:20 p.m. CST

    @kremzeek First off it was the biologist, not geologist

    by hollywoodsummers

    that reached for the alien penis snake. Secondly, it wasn't just "don't do that!!", it's "why are they doing ANYTHING they are doing and why do I not care about any of these people who talk like fucking morons when they're supposed be scientists?" But I agree that Prometheus is better than every Alien film except the first two... and maybe a few parts of the 3rd but that's debatable.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:22 p.m. CST

    re - KREMZEEK

    by DANGER_DIABOLIK_

    ...Jesus Christ, dude...EVEN any Uwe Boll directed film is better than Alien Vs Pred Requiem.....just 'cos 'Prometheus' is, doesn't make it good.....(???!!!)

  • But that's cool. That bothered you, and not me. And I'm sure the opposite is true on a bunch of other films, etc. Cool cool.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:22 p.m. CST

    @ Overrated.

    by FuckOffChristopherNolanNutHuggers

    I want to start off by saying that I am not trashing your opinion here, and I am glad we can discuss this peacefully. I disagree with some of what you've written, but everything I say from this point on is in respect. Please do not feel otherwise.... and so... I disagree. Two characters did the generic slasher thing by bailing out and taking a wrong turn. It's not really a bad thing since 'Alien' was a horror film that featured characters doing "stupid things" by today's standards. Why blame the director of Alien: Resurrection for a hammy script? It's not like Whedon's screenplay even tried to tell a coherent, interesting story. Is it not funny that people will now blame the Director for Alien 4, instead of the writer, and blame the writer and not the director for Prometheus? Prometheus was trying to make something useful of the material, same can not be said for Alien: Resurrection. Whedon gets big props from geeks for Avengers and Cabin in the Woods (both of which I do love, btw) but it's not like he's delievering well written stories for Alien and Avengers. The final product for Prometheus tried a helluva lot more for actual story then anything Whedon has done in his career.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Get the writers of Uncharted games to script

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

    Those games had better characters and dialogue than most movies.

  • Thats where the series ends for me. Starts with Prometheus. Ends with A:3 Assembly. I ignore all other Alien-related films.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:24 p.m. CST

    Awww, it's so cute how boborci defends Lindelof

    by Just_Some_Guy

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:25 p.m. CST

    And I'm not Slamming or pointing fingers at anyone ^

    by conspiracy

    I just honestly feel that is this is to work, if Disney and LucasFilm are to advance this beloved, decades old franchise into a new era...that the coming film should strive to be as wonderfully fresh and innovative as the films me and my parents lined up for hours to see as a little kid.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:25 p.m. CST

    boborci, there's nothing wrong with being a fuck-hole, just admit it

    by Just_Some_Guy

  • I'm not counting as "good" because I'm excluding other films. I loved it. You didn't. No worries.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Nice to see everyone convinced

    by trumovielover

    that these 2 are the ones doing episode VII. Remember this is just a THEORY. Fuck I feel sorry for who does get brought in to direct or write it. Haters are gonna bash them no matter what. Be patient people. There's still 2 1/2 yrs.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Gonna give the Bird to Lucas

    by Mark

    Is it too much to hope for a Blu-Ray where Han shoots first and everything was put back as it was and things are just cleaned up and a couple dozen x-wings are added and the effects shots are cleaned up. Is that really too much to ask. I would pay MORE money for that copy than all of the other @#$ out there. Lucas had too much free time with the force and needs to move on. I am glad he let go of the reigns, and let other's let the legacy live on.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:27 p.m. CST

    Hey boborci

    by evergreen

    Is it true you guys are told repeatedly to keep your pitches limited to a fifth-grade level of comprehension?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:27 p.m. CST

    So, is a fuckball like an amazeball? Lindel-ball?

    by Just_Some_Guy

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:28 p.m. CST

    Let us also not forget

    by trumovielover

    Lucas gave most of the 4 billion away to charity.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:28 p.m. CST

    @kremzeek my own personal GO-TO's for Prometheus are...

    by jazzdownunder

    The suddenly breathable atmosphere at the end of the movie. The idiot Engineer who comes after Shaw instead of just shrugging off her pathetic attempt to stop his plan and climbing into one of his other ships JUST LIKE SHAW DOES The "Foreign Object Removal" abdominal surgery on a machine that is only programmed for male procedures but which when given this ludicrously vague program doesn't do a hysterectomy(*) but instead performs a caesarian. The 2000 year old decapitated head that is still fresh and juicy and ripe for reanimation. The carefully selected biologist/surgeon who steps aside and lets an ANTHROPOLOGIST direct medical/biological proceedings. The complete failure to explain why the Space Jockey's were running *IN* to a room that contained their nemesis, or where the ones that made it into that room went to (without bothering to clear up their decapitated friend). The complete lack of any apparent reason for David to be pursuing a secretive agenda, other than the fact that, well, shit, that's what the synthetics do in this franchise, right ? And those are just the go-to's. (*) my guess is that the reason many people don't guffaw out loud at this point is that they are males with such a tenuous grasp on the differences between themselves and the opposite sex that it just goes right over their heads. I feel sorry for them for the day when their mum eventually makes them vacate the basement and get a girlfriend and they finally realise just how dumb this beloved movie of their's really was.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:31 p.m. CST

    When you already have a little over $2 Billion to your name...

    by conspiracy

    ...makes it really easy to give away the other $4B. Not saying it isn't a wonderful gesture, and I applaud his philanthropy...it shows he isn't as all out evil and twisted as I always imagined him. Pity...he was more interesting and fun to write about that way.

  • As my name indicates, I'm a HUGE fan of the original Alien. I walked out of Prometheus disappointed because what I saw on screen was simply not an enjoyable film. I didn't have any particular wish list of things I wanted Prometheus to be, so I think I was fairly open-minded and hopeful that Ridley Scott would surprise me. In the end, I don't think the ideas were all that "big," so I don't think the concepts were beyond me. I remember a Star Trek TNG episode that posited that Humans, Romulans, and Klingons were all seeded on our worlds by an ancient alien civilization, so it really wasn't exploring new territory for me. But I didn't like any of the characters. I have always hated Theron, anyway, so her inclusion was off-putting. But so many of the characters were not only loathsome (like Fifield), they were ugly in ways that I found difficult to believe even before all of the dissection was done by sites like Red Letter and AICN. There are those of us that do try to approach a film on its merits. At the same time, I think there are a lot of people that want to give Prometheus a pass because it was directed by the Almighty Scott. I actually lay this at Lindelof's feet because I'm convinced that Scott is never better than the material that's on the page. He's only a great director when he's given great material. He's an INCREDIBLE visualist, but he's terrible with actors and even worse at script doctoring. So in the end, that's why I disliked Prometheus, why I have doubts about Lindelof, and why I get kind of pissed off when people dismiss folks like me by accusing us of fanboy-ism.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Harold Ramis For Screenwriter

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

    Togas, gophers,ghosts, and a lean mean fighting machine.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:37 p.m. CST

    The only thing about this that seems plausible is the timeline.

    by Cotton_Mcknight

    The first time I heard this story, the thing that shocked me the most is that the movie is coming out in 2015. Every single Star Wars movie has come out 3 years apart. There are 2 explanations for this: 1) Groundwork has already been set- far more than we have been led to believe 2) They are rushing this movie, like "Wolverine", "X3" and any number of other movies that have been colossal disappointments. I really am afraid that it's number 2, but I tend to believe that they are farther along than they are admitting. This movie will define the Star Wars relationship with Disney- they better get it right, or the whole product could be tainted from here on out. People will dismiss the movies as not being "real Star Wars". Why take the risk? Maybe I am talking myself into thinking that the powers that be want this to be good. Who knows.

  • I don't think there is a film in existence that is 100% perfect. There are those that come close (Godfather 1 & 2, Blade Runner: Final Cut, SW: Empire Strikes Back, etc), but there are none that are 100% perfection. Most films have a quite a few WTF moments, if we were to sit and dissect them all. Some of them are more easily recognizable than others. Furthering that idea, we're all going to react to those levels of "obvious flaws" differently depending on our personalities and perceptions. As I said before, some things will really bother people in one film--and they wont for me. And then the opposite is also true for other films. So, you can say I don't understand the female gender and that I live in the my parents' basement all you like. None of that is true (well, do any of us *really* understand those crazy females!!? Haha). I like what I like. And you like what you like. Nothing wrong with that, IMO.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:37 p.m. CST

    @obiwanna Didn't we already get gophers in a Lucasfilm movie?

    by AlienFanatic

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Lawrence Kasdan For Screenwriter

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

    ESB? Raiders? ROTJ? Silverado?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Lindelof

    by giger167

    I don't actually believe the 1952 is Star Wars theory as the timeline seems wrong, but Lindelof has nothing to prove as a writer. I still honestly think Lost is one of the top five series ever and I loved Prometheus. I'm looking forward to 1952 on its own merits, think it will be a great new genre film.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:39 p.m. CST

    @alienfanatic. Maybe but we need pot smoking gophers

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

  • I wasn't implying (anywhere--I don't think) that those who disliked Prometheus were "not smart enough". I had just the opposite reaction--which further illustrates my previous post. I was sucked into the film from the get-go and never lost interest until the credits were rolling. If you couldn't get into it--there may not be an explananion, and there doesn't have to be. That's totally cool by me. We all like and dislike what we do. If we all liked the same stuff, this world would truly be boring. Again, no disrepect to anyone intended.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:54 p.m. CST

    Prometheus is excellent!

    by Dan

    http://www.reelholes.com/2012/09/22/70-prometheus-questions-answered/

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:57 p.m. CST

    Sorry but if Alien, Aliens or Prometheus is on cable

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

    I will watch the first two or go in the bathroom and cut my toe nails.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Speaking of Ridley

    by NoHubris

    Why not Ridley for Star Wars 7?

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:07 p.m. CST

    EW reporting people in Hollywood think Dave Filoni will direct it

    by Bladerunner751

    Filoni is the supervising director of the Clone Wars show on Cartoon Network and is a hardcore Star Wars fan. He's got a bunch of Plo Koon statues all over his office at Skywalker Ranch.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Kingdom of Heaven in the Star Wars universe

    by NoHubris

    would likely be Ridley's take on Star Wars 7.

  • But if I actually was Lindelof, I would never admit it because the mystery box of my identity is more interesting than the actual answer. So by admitting that I am him, I'm really confirming that I'm not.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:14 p.m. CST

    fuckoffchristophernolannuthuggers

    by evergreen

    Alien had space truckers dealing with a first contact situation. It was to be expected that not all of their decisions would be prudent. The crew on Prometheus were professionals chosen for specific reasons by a very wealthy man. It just seemed contrived that they served the plot by being idiots. That said, I'm looking forward to a sequel with (hopefully) a different writer. As for Alien:Resurrection, you may be right that I am being overly generous as far as the script goes. I still find it to be a charming attempt.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Dave Filoni

    by Darth Maui

    I could see him doing it. He's pretty chill but talented and respects both trilogies and the SW galaxy as a whole.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:22 p.m. CST

    Symbolism from Prometheus I discerned on 2nd viewing

    by iluvsyfy

    1) 17 crew members, 17 is last and the 7th of the prime numbers..... 2) 7 = 7 deadly sins, all those that died had one or more of the seven sins..... a) BTW, the geologist and biologist were getting it on, when they left together and the film cut back to them, I noticed they were adjusting their outfits (hinting their cloths had been off)..... Lust...Greed...Envy...Wrath...Sloth...Gluttony...Pride (was the Engineer's sin)..... 3) The Engineer at the end used a flute to activate his ship, Lucifer is the Pied Piper..... 4) His research facility was destroyed 2000 years ago, when Jesus was crucified..... 5) These Engineers were separated from the rest of their brethren (cast out)..... 6) Noomi had abandoned her previous faith embracing science, then found her faith again (placing the Cross back on)..... Also.... The juvenile alien at the end was the Queen from Aliens (notice the body, hands, features)..... The planet was the same, if you noticed the rock formations, the damage on the Engineers ship was identical to Alien...The planet had been off limits, therefore the computer in Alien had a been altered to use another code, otherwise the crew would have known not to land there. Weyland corp used the Engineers terra-forming facility as the foundation for their operation in Aliens. Therefore my opinion and rating for Prometheus has jumped from 3 to 4/5 stars.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:23 p.m. CST

    nohubris...Sir Ridley certainly would make it Beautiful...

    by conspiracy

    ...but I do question his judgement concerning story after Prometheus...which was stunningly beautiful, and yet horrible in so many ways...as people have very professionally pointed out above. Also...I don't think Rids knows how to make an optimistic or happy film....and though Star Wars in it's original guise, at times was dark, heavy, and wonderfully mysterious...it remains overall a FUN, happy, and optimistic experience. Can you really see Ridley Scott giving direction to a guy playing a prissy robot? Me either...

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Here is a BURNING question.....

    by conspiracy

    will "I have a bad feeling about this" make it's expected appearance? lol

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:25 p.m. CST

    Filoni dropped some hints on twitter and facebook

    by Bladerunner751

    about having a major meeting with "The Master" on Monday.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Do a Jedi/Sith Origins flick

    by Paul

    Include more mythology/religion good/vs evil. Make the hero the first Jedi who discovers the force and how to harness it. Plenty of internal and external conflict. In summary - Star Wars meets LOTR meets Spartacus meets Batman Begins meets the Matrix.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Oh, for Cryin' Out Loud...

    by Travis_Crabtree

    Everybody and their brother knows the director of the next trilogy is going to be Super Shadow!!!! Wow... now that's a name I haven't heard in a loooooong time.... thankfully...

  • - This is not necessarily a bad thing...GL has great ideas, he just lacks true structure and sucks at implementing them...

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 9:56 p.m. CST

    And to you nerds still going on about Han and Greedo

    by ShoreGrey

    Get a fucking life. It does absolutely nothing to the character or the story. There is more to life than Han Solo.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:01 p.m. CST

    shoregrey...Agreed. George has a great imagination..

    by conspiracy

    and zero understanding of how real people interact, develop relationships, or speak. I take that back...he did ok on American Graffiti and Star Wars (a New Hope)...after that...he forgot how human beings behave.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:07 p.m. CST

    No Lindelof. No Orci. No Kurtzman.

    by Jobacca

    You think we were pissed about the prequels? Put the fate of Star Wars into the hands of one of these hacks AND WE WILL BURN DISNEY TO THE GROUND!!!!!!!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:15 p.m. CST

    DARTH POOPOO

    by goatherdingclownhunter

    Just you wait................more Gungans, more idiotic nonsense, more stupidity at an epic level. YIPPY KI YAY.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Lindeloff seen at Lucasfilm with assistant pic

    by johnnyg korrupt

    http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/11/01/star-wars-rumor-watch-lindelof-spotted-at-lucasfilm/ Anyone that has a manbag satchel doesn't deserve to work on star wars

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Francis Ford Coppola

    by Paul

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:24 p.m. CST

    If mark hamill worked out and got in shape he'd be fine.

    by Charlie

    he's just a bit too pudgy. If he lost that there'd be nothing wrong with him. Carrie is a lost cause. I still don't quite understand why Harrison Ford wouldn't do it. He'd literally get a massive boatload of money.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:29 p.m. CST

    How could any Star Wars fan not...

    by HughHoyland

    Want to see Hamill, Fisher and Ford in Episode VII no matter how old they are? Go back and watch Episodes 4,5,6 and then say you don't. Come on they have to be in it.

  • His writing skills may debatable on these boards...but not many would question that the man has an eye for picking PA's.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:41 p.m. CST

    More Alan Horn Details

    by michael

    Oddly, I have a minor bit of insight into him. My family recently sold the rights to our lives to Warners and Alan was lined up to produce our movie, so we got to go out there and spend some time with him. I can not underestimate how GENUINE this guy is and how much he TOTALLY GETS the industry from every angle. Got to have tons of cool little anecdotes from him, including why Reiner did not make Shawshank with Tom Cruise in the Robbins role and more. My favorite was about his daughter, Cody. Can't go into massive details, but you may have seen her in Magic Mike this past year. I will FOREVER see JOHN CARTER different than everyone else. When we saw it in the theater, I thought it was like a 7. But, later, that movie basically cost Disney / Marvel / Pixar their man in charge because of the debacle and they made Alan a "godfather" offer to unretire to take their job. John Carter basically cost me our producer.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:43 p.m. CST

    Wow...just wow.

    by cowsaysmoo

    In the last 24 hours, George Lucas sells his company to Disney, and it's announced that Episode 7 will be hitting theatres is 2015. Geek sites all over the web are tripping over themselves to get the scoop on what the next trilogy will be about. I never thought we would see another Star Wars feature film. I thought Lucas would have to die before that happened. No matter what we thought of the prequels, you have to agree that this is an amazing development, and you have to hand it to George Lucas for letting go of his legacy like this. A friend of mine commented that it "just won't seem like Star Wars without Lucas's point of view, as disastrous as that proved to be." He might be right, but you at least have to give the man credit for finally realizing that Star Wars doesn't belong to him any more. What a story! The next 3 years are going to be insane! We'll probably all be disappointed by the time the new films come out, but so what? There's some new motherfuckin' Star Wars flicks coming out and my 8 year old self just pissed my pants! Oh and Mark Hamill will most definitely be in the new movie. Carrie Fisher 50/50. Harrison Ford? No chance.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:45 p.m. CST

    mpbarnet...With Horn and Kennedy at the wheel...

    by conspiracy

    ...I have confidence this will turn out well for all involved. Disney could not ask for two more knowledgeable, skilled, and respected executives. These folks pretty much define Professional.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 10:49 p.m. CST

    BRAD BIRD = DISNEYS DILDO Promethes *SCRIPT ONLY* = DONKEY SHIT

    by wannabedirector

    you guys are seriously fukin stupid if you can make sense out of the prometheus script, GTFOH.......HERCULES - out of everything you could have said, that was your best fuking point!!!!! LMFAO you idiot.....

  • Take to heart half of those comments and the new films will be classics.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:06 p.m. CST

    Edgar Wright to script and direct

    by FreeBeer

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:07 p.m. CST

    Where the fuck is our....

    by Dawhiteguy

    Quinlan Vos HBO series?!

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:09 p.m. CST

    conspiracy

    by NoHubris

    I see Prometheus' flaws more as script issues than Sir Ridley's POV. Regarding his take on humor, his lighthearted moments, where they exist in the story, usually work well such as the gladiator who humorously faked his death after tasting Maximus' food in GLADIATOR or the irony used in KOH like Balian getting slapped by Liam Neeson to remember his Knight's oath, Balian slapping the young soldier in kind so that he remembers his oath, or when faced with death at the hands of Saladin's warriors, the priest shouts "convert...Repent later!"

  • ...but Ridley signed off on it, the buck stops with him on that project, as he had 100% control. I'd really love to know what parts of Prometheus were Lindelof...and what was used from the original script. So many inconsistencies, so many purely idiotic moments in what was most certainly a beautiful film. I just can't understand why some of that crap made it through the first draft..let alone into the final film.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:42 p.m. CST

    message from 2019

    by Harrison_Snored

    Best Star Wars yet!!! I thought with the new Star Wars World opening at Disneyland, and news that Peter Jackson would direct the prequels remake, everyone would be burned out on Star Wars! I should know better by now, because it's obvious Star Wars is never going to get tired. A lot of people are upset about the Tattooine opening, but not me. Its an important part of the story, and I think Kosinski is a big enough fan to know that. And as much as I personally hated the podrace, seeing that empty, dilapidated stadium was AWESOME! As was the Bantha stampede scene. You always see people using the force during fights, but it was clever to show that it has influence over animals as well. Billy Dee Williams was a nice cameo, didn't see that one coming. And even though he's barely understandable at his age, I get that Lando would be some kind of politician. I'll admit I was expecting him to betray Jun Solo the way he did her old man, thankfully i was wrong. (And thank you SO MUCH for the updated Lobot! My inner geek really dug it) Ok, the bounty hunters fight; It would make sense for all of them to turn on each other, I don't think he had to use the force to trick them at all. A bunch of greedy scoundrels come face to face with the biggest pay day in the universe and what? You expect them to work together? No. Plus, he's a Jedi now, and Jedi would understand the art of fighting without fighting. So it makes sense that he would let them wipe each other out. No one in their right mind would attack them all at once. Although I didn't love the design of the 'new' falcon, I understand the old one had to go sometime. I mean, the thing was already in bad shape the first time we see it in episode 4, the fact that it survived all these years is a testament to Corellian technology. And speaking of Corellia... HOLYSHITBALLSWHATANAWESOMECHASESCENE!!! The speeder bikes on Endor was one of my favorite SW moments, but the Speeder bike chase on Corellia definitely takes the cake. If you don't see this in 3D you're wasting time, because it will take you damn breath away. Every time Im on the freeway now I'm going to be looking over my shoulder for that big syringe looking thing, I forgot what it was called but it was awesome. I already knew the emperor was cloned because a stupid friend spoiled it for me, but he didn't mention the Sith temple, and my GOD how long have we waited to see that! I like that it was in the snow too, made a nice contrast to the Mustafar planet from Ep3. I won't go into too much spoilers here, in case you haven't seen it. But the fight between the twins was everything the word 'Epic' implies. People compare it to the Maul fight (for the double sabers, obviously) but I think it was more like the Bespin fight from Ep 5. The tension, the music, the life and death stakes. It was all so tense I didnt realize how hard I was clenching my fists til they got outside to the landing platform. The 3-D in the blizzard is amazing, doesnt obscure the action in the least. (again, see it in 3-D) Of all the moments though, I loved LOVED LOOOOVEEDDD the Yoda/Luke/ObiWan/Anakin reunion. YODA!!! I missed him in the last two films, but I'm glad they saved him for this moment ("Find another way, you must!" SO COOL!!!) The makeup on McGregor is serviceable, and Hamill was made to be a glowly blue spectre, and I think Hayden Christensen is better in this 10 minute scene than he is in anything else (including Shattered Glass). It doesn't make sense for him to look older, so I don't know what they were thinking with that beard. Maybe they'll fix it in the special editions ;p. Okay, first trilogy down, great job Disney! Now if you would be so kind as to remove 30% of the random cutesy characters, and add a little more of the emotional content from this film, the NEXT trilogy will be even better than this one! Now if you'll excuse me, I have to stand in line for the Death Star Ride. Again.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:46 p.m. CST

    message from 2020

    by Harrison_Snored

    THE REPLICANTS HAVE TAKEN OVER! THE NEXUS 7 WAS A BAAAD IDEA!

  • ...now giving it a story of its own? Another low point in AICN history.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:56 p.m. CST

    @nohubris

    by Harrison_Snored

    Yes. Kingdom of Heaven with Lightsabers and Spaceships. Fuck Yes.

  • Nov. 1, 2012, 11:57 p.m. CST

    EDGAR WRIGHT WOULD BE SOLID for directing and writing - with ya FREEBEER!!

    by wannabedirector

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 12:03 a.m. CST

    QUESTIONS. WILL. BE. ANSWERED.

    by Nintendarth

    Isn't that how a normal film is supposed to go the FIRST time you see it?

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 12:04 a.m. CST

    Prequel fans and true Saga fans can not support Disney.

    by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw

    If you support a non-auteur version of Star Wars, you are a FRANCHISE fan. Licensing has always been to fund the auteur process, not the other way around.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 12:11 a.m. CST

    jeshopk

    by CodeName

    I think you're going to be surprised at what Disney will dish out regarding Star Wars. They know what they have on their hands. They'll probably treat their SW franchise better than Marvel.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 12:20 a.m. CST

    Plinkett wanted the Prequels to be stock cliche

    by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw

    And now he will get it.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 12:21 a.m. CST

    WHAT?

    by nonsensical

    Mark Hamill was interviewed about the sale of LucasFilm and he stated that he and Carrie Fisher met with Lucas in August to discuss Episodes 7-9 and that he was blown away by the decision to sell the company and the announcement of the new films. Add to that another quote from the write of Skywalking (whatever the rest of the title is doesn't matter) who says the story was originally 12 parts and Disney saying that after the next trilogy they would make more films every two or three years. Does that mean we might see more Luke, Han and Leia? Yahoo article is here... most of it is rumor and speculation like what is going on here... but whatever. http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/star-wars-returns-rumor-roundup-221654367.html

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 12:24 a.m. CST

    You read it here first folks....

    by Liquid_Sinister

    7, 8 and 9 will focus on Yoda's establishment of the Jedi order. It will take place before the prequels and have him facing off against Darth Plagueis(the "breakaway" student who goes on to establish the Sith) whom we know was the master of Emperor Palpatine before Palpatine snuffed him out. R2D2 will be in. No C3P0.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 12:25 a.m. CST

    Just wondering

    by Harrison_Snored

    Is any expecting anything other than "Pirates of the Caribbean" here? 'Stock cliche' (or, as its otherwise known 'classic storytelling') IS the way to go jeshopk. This is not 'Citizen Kane', or 'Alien', this is fairy-take stuff. Farmboys and princesses, and pirates and dragons. Which is why Disney is perfect for it.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 12:27 a.m. CST

    Messing with the formula

    by Harrison_Snored

    is what made the prequels fail. People wanted a simple story of good vs evil, characters with identifiable traits, and a couple of surprises regarding the destiny of those characters.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 1:03 a.m. CST

    Conspiracy

    by NoHubris

    Hate to say that the attempted humor in PROMETHEUS didn't work for me which was a surprise because Ridely typically knows how to use humor in his movies.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 1:09 a.m. CST

    harrison_snored

    by NoHubris

    Agreed. With KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, Ridley does many of the things that would also work in STAR WARS.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 1:10 a.m. CST

    So much of this speculation...

    by John Brown

    ...springs from the question, "How could they announce the films immediately along with the acquisition of Lucasfilm?" But the operative question is not "how," it's "why." And the why is this--Disney knew some investors would freak out at yet another multi-BILLION dollar franchise acquisition, and one that has soiled its reputation in much of the fan community at that. Yes, investors would see SW as attractive, but would they see it as 4 billion dollars attractive? That was the fear, and Disney didn't want their investors worried and face devaluation. So they announced 7,8,9 at the same time to generate buzz and interest and say, "See, we're not just buying a franchise without a future, in face the future is even brighter than it ever was." The announcement is rooted less in Disney's advance work than in their fear. And if they have to announce later, "We're not going to get it out until 2016," people won't freak out.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 1:15 a.m. CST

    I'm not the biggest Star Wars fan...

    by ScudPuppy

    in fact far from it, but I do know that in some of the subsequent novelizations Luke has a flirtation with the Dark Side and if I remember correctly he does turn...so they could probably write that in the 30-40 year gap between VI and VII and cover a portion of Luke's face Emperor-style...Han could be dead because we know Ford probably won't want to come back...and Leia well I guess we could see a gold bikini top hang down to her knees

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 1:38 a.m. CST

    Lindelof, Abrams & Co. are the worst thing that could happen to Star Wars

    by CokeMachineGlow

    People call George Lucas a sell out, but at least he never put product placements for Nokia and Budweiser into his franchise, or had Anakin groove to the Beastie Boys.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 1:41 a.m. CST

    THX-1138 land

    by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw

    You could try to escape from Disney security, and if they catch you, they really kill you and put you in a plastic bag.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 1:49 a.m. CST

    I am looking forward to the next WEIRD AL parody song.

    by Chris Moody

    Fun!

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 1:54 a.m. CST

    keep the jews like abrams away from it please!

    by dioxholsters_scion

    they are hacks who only keep working because of their jew nepotism

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 2:13 a.m. CST

    Because Brad Bird is a hack too

    by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw

    Fuck Brad Bird, The Incredibles, and his pink, ham face.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 2:26 a.m. CST

    Need to retcon the prequels, first.

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 2:27 a.m. CST

    Perhaps some offhand image or comments to totally

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    wipe away everything before Star Wars. And no, I refuse to think of it as ANH or episode 4 or any of that bullshit. It was Star Wars when I saw it in the 70's as a kid.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 2:37 a.m. CST

    Lindelof is a shitty writer.

    by SunTzu77

    Lost and Prometheus were turds.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 2:54 a.m. CST

    Let's all send this thing good vibes

    by darthvedder81

    There's been so much negativity surrounding SW in the internet age it makes me sick. Whether you are a fan of the prequels or not (I am) how could anyone who even remotely considers themselves a Star Wars fan not be excited about the possibilities of a sequel trilogy? Let's see some positivity for once.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 2:59 a.m. CST

    so how does someone go from The Incrediables to mission impossible?

    by dioxholsters_scion

    They are both so different. and now star wars? this is an outrage

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 3:03 a.m. CST

    The THX-1138 land will have to be beneath the Magic Kingdom

    by TheUmpireStrokesBach

    They'll just drug you up and throw you down into their utilidors. You'll then be placed in a cell where a masturbation machine will collect your semen. After that, they'll come throw you into an endless white room with a bunch of other drugged up park visitors. You then escape, befriend a hologram, evade security, find a golf cart and haul ass toward an exit. Oh, and watch out for the midgets. Almost exactly what happened to me the last time I visited the park while blasted on LSD. Good times.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 3:04 a.m. CST

    This theory is plausible

    by ryan

    so far any attempt to "debunk" has been done so with unnamed "credible" sources. like we've never heard anyone in this industry tell us something will or wont happen and the OPPOSITE is what comes about. Prometheus was shit, but if DL can kick Star Treks old wrinkly behind into shape, i have faith he can pull off the outskirts of space again with another star wars.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 3:25 a.m. CST

    Oh no!

    by VinnyMac666

    If Lindelof writes it we'll all probably have to draw our own conclusions and find our own personal meanings and shit. Blah blah blah. I don't want to sit around with my friends and discuss what it means, leave that crap in your fancy art houses! I'm not paying ten bucks for a mystery. I want it all spelled out for me, fuck subtext, and I want it delivered in the best looking package ever! I'm so sick of thinking about stuff all the time. I go to the movies to relax! Right AICN? Who's with me!? No more thinking about it! More 'splosions!

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 3:34 a.m. CST

    George Lucas is a big big fan of LOST, this is possible

    by dioxholsters_scion

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 3:35 a.m. CST

    Get Nolan to do it, but hes probably busy rebooting james bond

    by dioxholsters_scion

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 5:05 a.m. CST

    Prequel haters own this mess.

    by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw

    You know who you are. The death of the auteur is on your head. 1-3 didn't play for the masses, and that's as it SHOULD be. Pearls before swine. Eat your Disney SLOP!

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 5:05 a.m. CST

    Old testament vs new testament

    by Jim McArthur

    This is the best way to think of what Disney has up thier sleeve.

  • Little kids won't know the difference, and it goes without saying that Disney knows that all too well.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 5:29 a.m. CST

    *conglomerates

    by justmyluck

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 5:47 a.m. CST

    the thought of Carrie Fisher playing Leia

    by disfigurehead

    the way she looks now makes me want to swallow my vomit.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 5:58 a.m. CST

    They should not bring back OT characters

    by Gorgomel

    The Star Wars universe offers infinite possibilities and storyline. Just set the new trilogy 100 years after the OT and bring on new characters and planets (no more Tatooine please).

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 6:23 a.m. CST

    Little kids will know the difference.

    by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw

    Star Wars was different than The Lion King to kids. Star Wars didn't blow smoke up their ass with propaganda. Kids know when they are in school. Disney is school.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 6:50 a.m. CST

    Prequels weren't hack work. You'll see hack work soon.

    by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 6:56 a.m. CST

    re: *Prequels weren't hack work*. Enjoy your Jar Jar Binks.

    by justmyluck

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 6:58 a.m. CST

    long ass talkback

    by RoosterBooster71

    wow this is taking me back to the Episode 1 discussions and how nobody believed it would be called The Phantom Menace

  • People doing stupid shit is not necessary for horror. It's scarier when they do everything right and still die. When you say "I would have died in that situation too..." instead of "obviously he died, that's what happens to stupid people." The only mystery in the original alien movies was "how do we get away from these viscous creatures without being torn to pieces?" that's all the mystery I need in a hard scifi movie. Star wars doesn't need answers, whoever said that is right, the force doesn't need medichlorians. Starwars also doesn't need vague questions, a writer that goes " what does this mean? Right? Confusing I know, seems deep, that's what I'm going for, what? No, I'm never going to explain it ever. How should I know what it means?!" Puzzles are fun because it is satisfying making sense out of chaos. No one sells puzzles that don't fit together for a reason.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 7:28 a.m. CST

    STAR WARS...IF THEY SHOULD BAR WARS...

    by Duck of Death

    PLEASE LET THESE STAR WARS.... STAY...

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 7:29 a.m. CST

    get over this "you seen how they look now" thing

    by johnnyg korrupt

    nobody stays great looking forever. Ask your mom. I'm 38 and im so surprised how often i come across a chick that was drop dead gorgeous even 5 years ago and they look shocking now. That's life. Most people are lucky enough to stay looking good for 5 years straight let alone 10 years. You nerds shouldn't be complaining about looks anyway. Youve never looked good. Oh wait, thats right im sure fanboy forums with 300 posts are just inhabited but attractive looking guys who are just too busy to go out socialising.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 7:36 a.m. CST

    ROFL, theumpirestrokesbach

    by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:02 a.m. CST

    Message from 2019

    by tradeskilz

    Fucking KIDS MOVIE! The Ombagoombas was clearly created just so that Disney could market new toys to the CHILDREN that watch this crap. George Lucas would be proud. And you thought that talking robots, farting Gungas and teddybears where bad. Ombagoombas with their little kids voices and funny noises they make when they walk. Christ i almost walked out when i heard the fart noices they made everytime they turned their heads. The kids love it though and the theater errupted in childrens laughter anytime an Ombagoomba farted.

  • yep!

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:06 a.m. CST

    lindelofffffffff ,noooooooooo!

    by kimbers

    the force is weak with that one hackneyed, tedious plotlines passed of as pseudo intellectual mysttical bollox

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Wasn't the final trilogy supposed to be...

    by Barrymore

    set many years after the events of the first two trilogies? All people were supposed to be gone and robots had taken over the galaxy. C3PO and R2D2 were supposed to be the main characters. I distinctly remember reading this when I was in grade school in the early 80s (this was back when Luke and Leia were "rumored" to be brother-sister, and Darth Vader got that way because he fell into a volcano)--George Lucas had 9 Star Wars movies/plots planned, and the robots were supposed to be the last trilogy. Does anyone else remember this?

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:11 a.m. CST

    @fuckoffchristophernolannuthuggers

    by buggerbugger

    re: "A film doesn't always have to have the answers straight out [...] Hell, if it wasn't for a contract and an eager producer attempting to cash in on the success of 'Halloween', we never would have known why Michael "The Shape" Myers targeting Laurie Strode, Annie Brackett and etc, and that would have been fine." Uh... we were shown in 'Halloween' why Myers targeted Laurie and her friends. Nobody needed a nonsensical, revelatory "she's his baby sister!" retcon from 'H2' to make sense of the original movie's events.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:14 a.m. CST

    John Carter Taught Us That Disney Knows Space Opera!

    by Buzz Maverik

    Taylor Kitsch is saying, "Four billion? You said I broke the studio!"

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:23 a.m. CST

    When 900 years you reach...

    by Duck of Death

    ...look as good as Carrie Fisher you will not!

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:30 a.m. CST

    @kimber

    by sapno_krei

    Considering that STAR WARS and the concept of the Force were also "pseudo intellectual mysttical bollox" (later undone by Lucas' inexcusable introduction of the Midichlorians), I'd say that Damon Lindelof would be the perfect person to clean up and restore the concepts to their original mysterious nature.

  • Ooh mooey mooey I love you!

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:46 a.m. CST

    You literally couldn't have ruined the character more.

    by UltraTron

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 9:07 a.m. CST

    @ guys writing messages from 2015, 2017 and 2019:

    by buggerbugger

    How many Death Stars does this new trilogy feature? If it's one or more, 'Star Wars' can seriously suck my Death Balls.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Snig and Oopla are Disney's Star Wars characters

    by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXJHnv_SiKg Makes Phantom Menace look like Stanley Kubrick.

  • VADER: Look, seriously, I'm totally fine with throttling adults to death for no good reason every five minutes. Chopping old guys in half with my laser sword? Drugging bitches in cells? Torturing guys and selling them to gangsters? Sign me up for all of that shit. I'm even okay with blowing entire planets the fuck up because I'm pretending there were no kids or puppies living there. That's the sort of thing that makes me look badass in front of the troops. But... killing kids? Right up close? Man, that's going just a bit too far for me. Sorry, but you can count me out of this whole "Dark Side" shit.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Still going on about Han? 15 years later? Seriously?

    by Dan

    NOTHING was changed about the character.... NOTHING! And Plinkett? Seriously? You people agree with that dumpy, fat tub of shit weeping in his pile of cheetos? He's constantly off the mark... he wants cliches... and basically wants the orginal films remade like a douche. I'd love to punch that guy in the mouth just because he's the type that deserves it.... miserable parasite!

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 9:34 a.m. CST

    The prequels

    by grendel69

    Are a crime against humanity. In all seriousness,upon seeing TPM, I called it one of the worst movie Id ever seen and still believe that. As bad as Action Jackson or Leonard6. I spent a lot of time arguing with nerds about that. What was so disappointing was how much time Lucas had to think about it, and that was what we got. AoTC is only slighty better, and Sith, which is also a mess, is easily the best of the 3. It jsut amazes me how fans are so easily forgiving of outright horrible filmmaking just because its got the name Star Wars attached to it, while better films are ripped apart by genre fans. Lucas should have gone with the original plan... have high caliber directors and writers do them while he supervises. Yes Darabont (still high off Shawshank at the time) was talked to...imagine that,what could have been. His ego got in the way unfortunately.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Darth vader is NOT irredeemable...

    by Dan

    Read some....life is full of peole who done horrible shit and have been forgiven... I think that's one of the most profound statements in the original and prequel trilogy- forgiveness...or in the latter case, the lack of it. Death Row is full of people seeking to be forgiven... Nearly all, if not all of the Manson murderers have been born-again or have at least sought forgiveness. Whether they get it or not is not up to you or I... for their own sake they have best be sincere about it.... I think if some of those freaks can be forgiven in real life than a guy doing bad stuff in a fake universe can be forgiven too...geez, why is this such a sticking point?

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST

    grendel69

    by Dan

    The worst of all time? Here we go again with nerds unable to control their emotions. Having no control or understanding of the movie gradiation scale. Disliking the movie is one thing, but to declare it Leonerd Part 6 terrible? C'mon, no one is going to agree with insanity like that... (Shut up, Plinkett!) because it's all based on personal whatever.... which is mainly self-created Nerd rules that if the violators deviate one fraction, they are disowned, disbanded and called THE WORST THING---EVER. The Simpsons proved stereotypes ARE true... And Roger Ebert disagrees with you. Are you smarter than ole' Rog? Of course not....

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Frank Darabont was initially hired to write it...

    by Dan

    his first reading of the TPM script…after he was done, he was asked for his opinion, his feedback…. His answer- “I WOULDN’T CHANGE A THING”…. Take that for what it is…

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 10:10 a.m. CST

    First pic from Disney's Star Wars. Thank God Lucas is gone!

    by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3047/2573695234_cd1c0f43da_m.jpg

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Anakin/Vader child killer was a bold move by Lucas...

    by T

    It was still somewhat ham-fistedly executed but it was bold. Blowing up a planet = the same thing, just not as graphically portrayed. Yeah, I know that was Tarkin, but Vader was complicit in that too. The Death Star was awesome but wasteful... the new super weapon could be The Subjegator, a slaver weapon that puts a planet under the sway of the Dark Side. That could devastate The New Republic real quick, especially if it hit the Capital with a great deal of the Jedi there. Sure, it's a little hokey, but what else is there besides black holes, red matter(whoops!) and Mega Death Stars!

  • The Disney effect won't really hit hard until somewhere down the line... LucasFilm will be making Star Wars. LucasFilm. George might be more hands off than in the past but his presence will be felt!

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 10:15 a.m. CST

    If the prequels get to be the worst for you...

    by Dan

    Lord of the Rings is THE worst for me... :)

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Pretty Clear that Penny Marshall Will Direct

    by Lesbianna_Winterlude

    Disney owns this thing now. Ellen DeGeneres, Chris Colfer and Taylor Lautner as the leads. The Rock as a gruff but lovable Jedi Master.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 10:54 a.m. CST

    tons of star wars novels

    by RoosterBooster71

    spanning the time way before the movies to way after.. but i dunno if any of them are really suitable for a movie

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 10:59 a.m. CST

    order66_with_fries_please

    by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw

    Good fathers shoot CPS workers when they come to the door.

  • It's clear that Lindeloff had a goal with Prometheus. Alien and Aliens are the gold standard so he tried to tap into both. Alien was space horror and he tried to deliver the genre elements of that right down to the idiots touching things they shouldn't and making dumb decisions which would later get them killed. That's part of the tropes of the genre and something people enjoy watching. Aliens was sci-fi action and once the action ramped up in Prometheus it was quite a bit of fun. The final act was where it branched out. It asked big questions. It set up interesting ideas. It made me want to see an entire movie about David and the female character even if David's head was just in a bowling ball bag the entire time giving advice, doing math and plotting coordinates sort of like R2. Prometheus was ambitious and tried to be a lot of things to a lot of different Alien/Aliens fans while still reaching out to new fans. I think it was a success as far as adding new life to the franchise.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Can't wait for the Pixar/Star Wars mashup

    by tcovil

    Looking forward to meeting Jar Jar Slinks, Lighting McThreepio and Lots-o-Huggin' Vader.

  • Hell, there are some out there who defend Crystal Skull or Superman Returns. Even the Transformers movies!

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Since when has Disney released anything but family comedies? Avengers included.

    by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw

  • Not saying it isn't there, but it's a lot harder to find than the one about Darabont refusing to work on TPM because George wanted him to work off-contract.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST

    er zodlovesmaude

    by AlienFanatic

    Had Frank Darabont on the brain there.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Hamill, Ford, Fisher, and KIT-BASHED MODEL WORK.

    by GoSensGo

    We all want it. That original thrill, the original feel, the original look, and the original cast. I don't give a rat's ass what anyone looks like after 30 years. Put 'em together and let the cameras roll. "How are we doing?" "Same as always!" Ford won't do it? He fuck well better. He owes the fans. I paid to see 'Regarding Henry' and 'Crystal Skull'. Ford bitches that Solo is a one-note character? So what. He didn't seem to mind playing Han Solo for a fourth time in 'Cowboys and Aliens'. Ford needs to quit being a prick. And I want to see model work! Get that 1977 feel back. The Falcon in CGI would be unforgiveable. Let's do this thing old-school and have the fun we've forgotten about.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Uwe Boll in talks to direct.

    by SkitZo

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Disney will turn it into Toy Story

    by dioxholsters_scion

    which is unarguably the worst milking of a movie ever made. Talk about using the same theme and storyline over and over again.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 12:51 p.m. CST

    hank henshaw, Crystal Skull is pure INDY.

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    The best of INDY? No, not even close. But PURE INDY? Yes. Rip it apart, it still fits. Wanting something better doesn't make it a piece of shit. But if one considers it a piece of shit, then that same deconstruction needs to be applied to the other INDY stories. just sayin'

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 12:59 p.m. CST

    The Face Of Cinema's Greatest Villain - New Era Remix

    by albert comin

    http://www.tvsmacktalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/a_610x408.jpg

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 1:05 p.m. CST

    PROMETHEUS does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    I saw a piece the BBC film critic Kermode had done about PROMETHEUS last week following the blu ray release and the cut scenes - talking about how people were re-evaluating the film now that all the hype had died down. Kermode made an excellent point, about people upon second viewing being able to appreciate PROMETHEUS for what it is rather than what they expected it to be. I have to say I thought it was very good at the cinema but ive since watched it twice more on 3D blu ray along with the deleted scenes and for me its currently the best film of the year. A beautiful piece of world building, a window.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 1:07 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    I just wish they had released a proper extended cut rather than the deleted scenes as an extra. If you havent seen them then dont judge PROMETHEUS to harshly until you have. (the documentary on the 4-disc set is gold standard too, best behind the scenes docu since LOTR EE discs) So many of the huh wtf moments are explained or removed by the deleted scenes, once again Ridley got fucked, or fucked himself, by releasing a drastically shortened film than the one he actually shot. Holloway deleted scenes show why he was a drunk ass in the autopsy scene. Janek deleted scene shows why he was ready to sacrifice himself in the ramming scene. Millburn deleted scene show him all giddy at finding the worm which later becomes mutated by the goo and informs his petting reaction. Paradise deleted scene is a call back to the dream scene we see right at the start with shows father. Engineer speaks deleted scene is a great throwback to weyland ted speech... And there's more. Just wished we had an extended cut to allow this movie a more considered pace with all those extra moments!

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Because you asked for it: Christopher Nolan's STAR WARS EPISODE VII

    by animatronicmojo

    The beginning of Christopher Nolan’s “Star Wars Episode VII: The Dark Side Rises” joins Luke Skywalker eight years after the events in Return of the Jedi. The death of the genocidal, child-murdering father Luke never knew; his tortured, secret love for his sister, and the scars from the Emperor’s force lighting torture have left Luke a shattered man. With a beard and a cane, he hobbles about his mansion on Coruscant like a disheveled Howard Hughes, having quit the Jedi Order and Rebellion after the party on the Forest Moon of Endor. However, unbeknownst to him, a clone of Darth Vader called “Vain” is about to unleash a violent revolution on Coruscant. First, Vain steals all the armored canon-cars that Luke was unknowingly making, smacks around the stock brokers, and performs a blood transfusion. He then blows up the pod-races and all the bridges out of Coruscant, trapping everyone on the… planet. His plan is to raise unemployment and then blow up the whole planet with a one of Luke’s bigger bombs. Luke meets a beautiful young thief for five minutes named Aynranda and falls in love. He confronts Vain, is badly beaten, and thrown into the Sarlacc on Tatooine, where, for about an hour, he slithers around the entrails being digested and receiving pithy, leaden exposition from Boba Fett (played by the voice of Michael Caine) who is still being eaten after all these years. He is also reunited with Han and Lando, who helps him find “the force” to climb out of the Sarlacc, and jump the ten feet to freedom. Back in Coruscant, Luke tries to raise an army, but first must free the Jedis and Younglings, who, three months prior, were each and every one of them trapped by Vain in the planet sewer, which has only one way in and one way out. Luke then flies around Coruscant trying to evade the Death Star, which is Vain’s armored truck laden with heat-seeking missiles. Luke steers the missiles into buildings, and finally gets to confront Vain in a fistfight. He is again losing badly, but Aynranda shows up suddenly with a bazooka and blows Vain up. Luke then tosses his light saber to the kid from that 70’s show. In the final scene, we see a single shot of a spaceship in space… Luke and Aynranda are heading to a giant CG castle by The Lake on Naboo, where Luke enters into a second retirement.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 1:13 p.m. CST

    alienfanatic

    by Dan

    Will try and find it... I read it on CHUD.com years ago...(I hate that place :) )

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 1:17 p.m. CST

    stereotypical evil archer - Excellent points...

    by Dan

    I am one of those- I will defend the prequels and Krystal Skull to the fucking grave!

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 1:27 p.m. CST

    alienfanatic

    by Dan

    http://www.shawshankredemption.org/fade.htm Scroll down, it's towards the bottom... Frank says he wasn't hired on for writer per say, but he was asked for some input... and he didn't give any.... Derp

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 1:27 p.m. CST

    The Force?

    by SlyAndTheFamilyStallone

    Yeah, it's kinda like this cork in this wine bottle. What more do I need to tell you. It's like, a cork, man!

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Disney's Star Wars: The Farce Will Be Strong.

    by albert comin

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 1:35 p.m. CST

    cobra--kai DUDE, GET THE FUCK OUTTA THIS DOJO

    by wannabedirector

    dude, seriously, you are going to defend the fucking donkey shit of a script in prometheus???!!!! Answer me this.....why the fuk did the goo do the most complete random, arbitrary shit throughout the movie, o yea....cause lindelof sucks fukin ass and used it as fucking birdshit glue to a fukin shit script.....and how the fuk does a 'alien' melt himself in a river and then somehow created sequenced DNA that creates human beings???? does your sperm get flushed down the toilet and create people out of the sewers????......i mean fucking are you kidding me, should have flushed the script and yourself down the shitter - get the fuk outta here you stupid wanker!!!!!!

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Lucas's ego got in the way?

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    He ASKED Darabont (and Kasdan) to write the script for Menace, and for their opinions. He even asked Carrie Fisher to give the script a once over (since she's a writer herself). They all turned him down, or told him 'not to change a thing'. It's amazing how people will bash Lucas while selectively ignoring the FACTS. Also, how dare you criticize 'Action Jackson'.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 1:38 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    wannabedirector, no my sperm gets splashed over your girlfriends pretty face. She's not satisfied at home and is begging every night for some dojo dicking.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 1:40 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    turd, I agree some films are sacrosanct. ACTION JACKSON is one. PATCH ADAMS is another.

  • .....again, get the fuk outta this dojo you wanker!!!

  • He got a look at one draft of the screenplay, which could have been the final but also could have been an interim draft. Only Darabont himself could tell you which one it was and precisely how he felt about it. "I didn’t have anything to say about it. 'Gee, George, I’m sorry that you wasted your airline ticket on me. Good luck with the shoot.'” What appears on the page can also be quite different from what emerges in the shoot, though I doubt George brooks much improvisation. Hell, I was giddy during the first showing of TPM because, hell, it was freaking STAR WARS after 20 years. I was one of those folks in line in the early morning at a downtown theater I NEVER go to just so that I could recapture some of that fun. Later, I realized just how empty the experience was. It became more about the movie and less about the experience the second time (that day) that I watched the movie, and I could feel my enthusiasm balloon deflating. Let's just say that I think Darabont has a contagious enthusiasm for Lucas's properties and an innate talent at adapting the works of others. I'd love to see him get a turn at the screenplay, no matter who ends up penning the final draft. That said, it sounds like Darabont doesn't like to be a gun-for-hire anymore, so I sincerely doubt that he'll be involved. And that makes me sad.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Cobra...haven't seen the BLU Prometheus...

    by conspiracy

    ...but unless it explains why half way through the film highly educated scientists and Space fairing experts suddenly start making incredibly illogical choices, many of which could be/turn out to be life and death choices...it won't change my opinion of that script.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 2:15 p.m. CST

    @turd Man, heresay really isn't an argument

    by AlienFanatic

    Hollywood is such an intensely political environment, and Lucas has been such a powerful figure, it's really hard to separate the fiction from the reality when it comes to these tales. Darabont said later, when he was expressing what happened with Indy IV, that Lucas is very stubborn and simply ignores any ideas he doesn't agree with. Perhaps the writers realized that attempting to give feedback to Lucas on a screenplay was pointless and, in fact, could have had a negative impact on their careers at that time. Darabont benefited from a positive relationship with Lucas, but it's clear that by the time of Indy IV, Lucas had worn him down. I don't even know about Fisher, whose acid-tongued satire would have been an awful fit for Star Wars, or why Lucas would have even considered her for assistance. Lucas has always seemed like a guy to surround himself with yes-men. Those that don't say yes don't stick around long. Do you really think he was looking for honest feedback when he passed the screenplay around and do you think that anyone who had a career to consider would risk invoking his ire? We don't know the man. We don't know how he works. We don't know if he's the nicest guy in Hollywood or a vindictive S.O.B. so it's really hard to draw any conclusions from anecdotes and heresay.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 2:20 p.m. CST

    REAL MOVIE FANS SHOULD DIRECT STAR WARS EPISODE VII

    by wannabedirector

    .....RZA, Tarantino, Edgar Wright.....these guys make movies because they fucking LOVE movies - watching them, directing, writing.....fuking stupid ass lindelof and brad 'MI4 still second to the original' bird do this shit for the fukin paycheck and mortgage......plus, DISNEY ALWAYS DOES IT FOR THE MONEY AS AN EVIL SHIT OF A CORPORATION.....props to Lucas for selling it as i thought he would die with the property rights, but why would he sell it to the worst fuking studio/least creative minds that won't take it to the AWESOMENESS that it deserves and can be???!!!.....(RHETORICAL, i.e. Episodes I II III) because Lucas is a fukin retarded money-grabbin doosh and doesn't give a shit anymore about why he fell in love with making movies 40 fuking years ago!!! PEOPLE - WAKE THE FUK UP!!! BRING SOME SUBSTANCE TO THIS TALKBACK!!!

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 2:30 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    conspiracy, 100% worth checking out - you will thank the Dojo for it afterwards! wannabedirectro, id answer but am currently too busy eulogizing Bruce Spence in the MAD MAX tb!!

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Opening scene for SW VII...

    by Michael Tyree

    ...we see Mickey and Donald on the bridge of a spanking new Malteesium Falcon cruiser: Mickey: "Dammit Donald, where the hell did Princess Laya disappear to this time?" Donald (after much cursing and throwing of un-nailed down objects): "I dunno, she's always wandering off somewhere and if ya ask me, I think she's fucking goofy anyway!" Goofy walks up to the bridge to join his pals and they both notice he has an enormous, shit-eating grin on his face. When you wish upon a Star, Wars will not be very far... ...ah yes, fanboy karma.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 2:45 p.m. CST

    alienfanatic, there's an awful lot of assumption there

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    'Do you really think he was looking for honest feedback? Yes. Why else would he pass the script around in the first place if he was not looking for feedback? He was under no requirement to do so. There's no reason to read anymore into that situation than the obvious, unless you're just looking to find fault with the man. Now, there's also no reason to assume he would have taken their opinions on board, either, but it's telling that they offered nothing critical at all. Perhaps they thought that, regardless of what was on the page, Lucas knew something they didn't and was going to strike lightning in a bottle again, a la A New Hope. A New Hope wasn't exactly Chinatown as a script, either, after all. I remember Fisher saying something like 'I know he always does much better than what's on the page' and Darabont praising the script as being 'undiluted Lucas, and that was what was so wonderful about it'. Darabont, Kasdan and Fisher were not employees of Lucas and were all independent of him, so why on earth would they be scared of giving an honest opinion? Darabont was already a successful director on his own, as was Kasdan. Fisher had her own thing going. Their ties to Lucas might have been a nice extra thing on the side but that's all. They didn't need Lucas, who was remote from the Hollywood industry, anyway, outside of his Indy/ SW sphere. It's reasonable to assume that their responses WERE their honest opinions. As for Lucas himself, I think it IS possible to form an opinion of the man after countless interviews, biographies, etc. He clearly is a humble, down-to-earth, nice guy AND he is clearly stubborn about his ideas also. The two aren't mutually exclusive. I don't buy all this conspiracy nonsense that he must be a vindictive asshole in private, or a terrible human being. Most of that talk seems to come from Lucas haters projecting their own bile onto the man.

  • I assume Cuse deserves more of the blame.

  • hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaahaha!!!!!!! OMG this is hilarious.....!!!!

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 3:21 p.m. CST

    This could go either way

    by LarkStew

    The thing that interests me about more movies after the original trilogy, is that with the prequels, they had to line up with the originals, so everyone could kind of guess the broad outline. With sequels, they could go anywhere, we have no idea what they're intending to do, so whatever they do it'll be a huge surprise. But then the thing that worries me, is that since they're calling it episode 7, it implies a continuation of the original trilogy story. And I've no clue what they can do to carry that off. You could vaguely have old Luke, but who would the antagonist be? A clone Emperor? Thrawn? Come one, that's tedious fan fiction. I just can't think of anything they can do to carry on that story which won't feel like a tired, tacked on rehash. On the other hand, the aftermath of the galactic war, where our heroes would be rebuilding the republic, facing local warlords, drug runners, opportunists, would be much better suited to a TV series. That would be the best place for Star Wars now. But since they're going ahead with more movies, personally I think the best approach would be to go further into the future, maybe 100 years, and have all new characters, new stories, new dangers. But naming it episode 7 worries me.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 3:55 p.m. CST

    If Ian McKellen at his age can do Gandalf...

    by NoHubris

    ....and if Sly can do THE EXPENDABLES, then why can't Hamill, Fisher and Ford do STAR WARS 7? There are other examples of effective older action stars like Connery as Mason in THE ROCK and Ramius in RED OCTOBER. The formula works if the younger stars also have ample screen time.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 3:56 p.m. CST

    I just can't wait for Disney to make the Snig and Oopla movie. Man, they are creative.

    by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 4:09 p.m. CST

    @ scratchmonkey - Nope, no Death Star

    by Harrison_Snored

    SPOILER FOR 2012 PPL No Death Star, thankfully. Part VII had those two big orange Juggernaut Ships that are seemingly indestructible until Chewie and Han rig one to attack the other. (Yes, i think it's a deliberate parallel to the twins) Ep VIII shows that those two were just part of a Sith Armada of hundreds, being piloted by droids controlled by that Fin-Headed Shark-Baron guy. And they can concentrate their fire power like the Death Star when they have to hit something big like Coruscant. Ep IX the Sith Armada is annihilated by that flat, UFO looking Megaship the Alliance was building on that Wookie planet in Ep VIII. TOYS TOYS TOYS

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 4:10 p.m. CST

    @nohubris

    by Harrison_Snored

    Also Jeff Bridges in Tron Legacy!

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 4:12 p.m. CST

    @turd I never said Lucas was pleasant OR unpleasant...

    by AlienFanatic

    I was simply saying that none of us can possibly know his motivations. By talking to Hamill and Fisher in advance of this agreement, I have the tendency to believe he's a good guy and loyal to his friends. I also believe he's stubborn. I also can't speak to the motivation of people brought on board to proofread his script, nor why they would or would not offer feedback. All I'm saying is that your argument that their lack of feedback was somehow a tacit approval of the TPM screenplay lacks proof. I'd rather just say that just because someone like Darabont didn't criticize Lucas's screenplay does not lessen my opinion of that person's talents. Darabont has proven time and again, both in his King adaptations as well as helping to successfully launch shows like Walking Dead, that he has talent as a writer. I tend to like what he does. And I'd like to see his take on a Star Wars film, whether or not it goes to production.

  • The story of the prequels/originals is done. forget about trying to continue it somehow by making a sequel about their kids or some shit. Anything like that will just invite comparisons with the original cast which will never be matched at least in our hearts/minds. Start over with a new story set in the same universe. I'd like to see a Jedi origins story. The first Jedi who discovers the force. Picture Star Wars meets Batman Begins meets Matrix meets the 10 Commandments. A Biblical epic done for the Jedi religion. Get back to heavy mythology/religious tones of the OT.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Jeff Bridges in Tron Legacy looked as fake as Sean Connery did in from Dragonheart.

    by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 4:15 p.m. CST

    What did Mark Hamill Say?

    by Henry Fool

    It seems to me that there are two distinct possibilities here. 1. These films are likely to happen. 2. Mark Hamill is a pathological liar. I like Mark Hamill and think there's a chance he's probably been keeping fans informed of Lucas' true plans as ol' George lies constantly without hesistation or remorse. Mark said that George took he and Carrie out to lunch to talk about the third trilogy. It seems a stretch that he'd outrage George by lying about this. So unless he's profoundly mentally ill, it seems we have to assume that these films are happening.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Hyperspace Hoopla is so much better than anything George Lucas ever came up with.

    by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw

    MAN this is good shit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXJHnv_SiKg Look at all those POSITIVE COMMENTS! Why couldn't Lucas do THAT!

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 4:19 p.m. CST

    @ jeshopk

    by Harrison_Snored

    Agreed. But Im glad they were able to put the REAL Bridges in there without making him do all the crap we were expected to believe old Indy could do.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Yes zodlovesmaude.. one of the worst.

    by grendel69

    Simply, Its a terrible, terrible film.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 4:53 p.m. CST

    alienfanatic, none of that was ever anything to do with my argument in the first place

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    Which actually wasn't an argument at all, but a repudiation of someone's point. I was originally responding to someone who called Lucas an egotist for daring to write the prequels himself, instead of hiring more qualified people to do the job. I simply pointed out that this was not so, and that he had initially approached others to either write the scripts, provide feedback, or to polish the dialogue. Nor did I question Darabont's talents, either directly or by implication. I've already nominated him myself in other threads as one of my preferred choices to write these new sequels - and maybe even to direct.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 4:58 p.m. CST

    So these guys from the future don't know the names of things

    by SlickyVonBoner

    Like the main villain or what the new superweapons are called. Hmm . i'm calling bullshit! Plus, we all know you can't travel back in time... only forward.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 5:19 p.m. CST

    hey boner

    by Harrison_Snored

    Im right behind you

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Anakin Skywalker as a child slaughterer....

    by one9deuce

    is THE biggest fuck-up of George Lucas' career. It changes him from a bad guy to an irredeemable and disgusting excuse for a human being. Anyone confused by that or defending it is stupid for lack of a better word. In the Original Trilogy, Darth Vader is a terrifying and murderous villain doing very bad things to ADULTS who are soldiers and warriors in the midst of a war. In Episode III "Darth Vader" slaughters a LOT of innocent and defenseless children for NO good reason! My cousin is a maximum security prison guard, and he says that the inmates (muderers, rapists) are all disgusted by the child murderers. It's just on another level. It's despicable in ways that other crimes just aren't. It was an incredibly ham-fisted and short sighted way to make Anakin seem really lost. It went way too far. And he did the same thing in AOTC! Darth Vader is a bad guy in a pulp adventure series. Not some murderer of innocents. He's Genghis Khan. Not John Wayne Gacy. He's Julius Caesar. Not Ted Bundy. He's Benito Mussolini. Not Ed Gein. He's a warrior and a dictator who is trying to dominate a galaxy with very questionable tactics. Not some serial killer. And I concur with several talkbackers here, the Prequels ARE as shitty as ACTION JACKSON or LEONARD PART 6. Because Lucas had all the time he needed. All the money he needed. And all the talent in the world at his disposal. And he STILL made one poor film, which is THE PHANTOM MENACE. A potentially great film with another few drafts of the screenplay. And two unbelievably shitty films, which are ATTACK OF THE CLONES and REVENGE OF THE SITH. Which both are at the level of a mediocre television show. Which is what they are of course. Shot on television cameras with a television crew. Directed and staged like a television Soap Opera with soap opera acting to match. They are shit, pure and simple. I don't know what Disney and Lucasfilm have in mind, but there is no where to go but up.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 5:35 p.m. CST

    oneninedeuce - I crown thee King

    by Harrison_Snored

    Dammit wheres my like button?!

  • Clearly he discussed a synopsis with them as it involves them.

  • Genghis Khan inparticular takes the cake. He literally orderd the deathof millons, and he target the children in particular so that to implement deliberate genocide. How harsh was it? Let me just say thateven in the 21th century central asia has not reach the population levels it had before Khan's genocides. And is was something that happened i the 13th century. Caesar's military actions in Galia were responsible for the death of one to 5 million people. Cildren were partcular targets, either for enslavement or for extermination so t end a bloodline of some rebellous tribe. Benito Musolini send a 20the century modern army fight a backwater country, Ethiopia, armed with 19th century weaponry, and he orere systematic air raid bombardments on civilian targets. The death of chldren on those actions caused an international outrage and was one of the first blow against public opinion about fascism before WWII began. So my point is, yo realy came across as quite ignorant in your coments above. Next time you try to be smart abut your atempts at criticisin the Sw prequels, my advise is next time try to actually do some research before you sound like an ignorant. And guess what Lucas did research about what makes a tyrant. If anything, Anakin Skywalker fits very well the personality profile of so many of known tyrants, specially those in the 20th century. So there.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 5:54 p.m. CST

    harrison_snored

    by NoHubris

    Jeff Bridges in TRON: LEGACY is another good one. As a matter of fact TRON:LEGACY is a good model in general in terms of both younger version of the original hero (in the case of Tron it was a digital clone) and use of the hero's offspring (i.e. Sam). SW7 has many such options in that regard.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 6 p.m. CST

    Of course, there were absolutely no children on Alderaan, either...

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    Oh well, I guess he just pushed a button from afar, so that doesn't count, eh?

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 6:29 p.m. CST

    turd - That was Tarkin's idea

    by Harrison_Snored

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 6:32 p.m. CST

    Grr- seeing Vader as a child killing wacko

    by Harrison_Snored

    I can't wait for Jackson or Del Toro or anybody else to remake those damn prequels. It was more than just 'the wrong tone' or 'bad dialogue' or 'lazy directing' Its the worst.. I cant even go into it. REMAKE THE PREQUELS DISNEY!!

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Mark Hamill looks like William Shatner Now

    by Pipple

    Get his son to do it and we'll talk... otherwise, don't drive the knife deeper through my childhood. I can't takes no maarrr... :..(

  • Step away and let the learned do the talkbacking. Your fucking ignorance of history is more insulting and more of a travesty than any disappointment in the prequels.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 6:48 p.m. CST

    harrison_snored, nonsense, Vader was complicit in the act

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    I've heard it all now, though. Now Lucas is being pilloried for making the prequels too dark, for actually having the balls to show Vader as a murderer with no conscience! Lol. That Vader; I always thought he was kind to children and animals before the prequels! I always thought he had some sort of moral compass, no matter how limited! I always thought dictators limited their evil acts to only those over the age of eighteen! Lucas, you bastard....

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Lucas has always said that Vader cannot be redeemed

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    Rendering these arguments moot. He can't atone for what he's done in the past, but he can at least put an end to the tyranny, and try his best to make up for what he's done in even a small way (which he did by saving Luke and killing the Emperor).

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 6:53 p.m. CST

    How I believe Episode III should have played out

    by SlickyVonBoner

    to make Anakin seem a hero in our eyes even after falling to the darkside. The events of Order 66 happen much earlier in the film, and that is where Obi-Wan and Anakin duel over their separate beliefs over how the galaxy should be ruled. A Republic vs an Empire. Obi-wan easily defeats Anakin, giving him the grievous wounds we already new he was destined to receive. Due, to the war and the transition to the Empire, Anakin has not seen Padme for some time and she was afraid to tell him/or anyone of her pregnancy. She gives birth (much like the movie) when Darth Vader is born. Now, Vader begins to hunt and exterminate the remaining Jedi, including his old Master Kenobi. Meanwhile, Kenobi discovers Padme has given birth to twins and THEN decides to split them up so Vader cannot find them. On his way to Tatooine, Vader attacks and boards Obi-Wan's ship. Another duel breaks out, where Anakin clearly has the upper hand and nearly defeats the Jedi. Until he hears a baby crying... Somehow he knows, and Kenobi confirms the child is his. As his last act of kindness he sets Obi-wan free and tells him to take his son far away and hide him.. even from himself. (note he has no idea Luke has a twin sister) This makes Vader somewhat of a hero and shows there is a glimpse of hope left in the man. Vader also manages to hide this information for decades until Luke destroys the Death Star. Now that the Emperor know about his son's existence, he must get to Luke before his Master does.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 6:53 p.m. CST

    I want new comers...

    by KyleG

    ...to write and direct - and blow my mind like the first STARWARS did. That's my perfect scenario.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 6:59 p.m. CST

    animatronicmojo you making me want nolan to do it more

    by dioxholsters_scion

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 7:01 p.m. CST

    I actually want Star Wars to focus on mysticism again

    by dioxholsters_scion

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 7:04 p.m. CST

    i bet kevin smith regrets retirement

    by dioxholsters_scion

    what a shit hack they wouldve not let him anywhere near it anyway mainly because hes too fat

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 7:13 p.m. CST

    A kinder Gentler Vader?

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

    Isn't this the guy who stood next to Grand Moff Tarkin and destroyed an entire world including millions of children? The prequels sucked but Lucas had to show how that cute little kid became a monster capable of world destruction.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 7:30 p.m. CST

    Mark Hamill...

    by DocOpticus

    Start growing a beard and learn how to swordfight. For real this time. Oh, and no whining...

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Killing kids doesnt belong in Star Wars period.

    by Harrison_Snored

    Yes, there were children on Alderaan, yes, Vader is a cold-hearted bastard. But c'mon! The prequels hit that note WAY too hard. Especially in a movie with a big cartoon rabbit saying cutesy shit and stepping in poop. There's a subtle art to violence in cinema, and the prequels had no subtlety at all; an offensive disregard.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 7:39 p.m. CST

    hey turd

    by Harrison_Snored

    Of course he was complicit, doesnt mean it was his idea.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 7:42 p.m. CST

    @dercomrade

    by ryan

    that must be why its a big ol woppin 95 on the tomatormeter. not that i live and die by that fucking site, but my my experience, its usually right. as of late its had its letdowns....prometheus for example. and if you thought jjs reboot was trash, your opinion is worthless to me. shatners the man but the newest film was a good movie with a solid story and great acting. asswipe

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 7:42 p.m. CST

    fucking typos

    by ryan

    dammit

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 7:50 p.m. CST

    Matthew Vaughn wants to direct it

    by Bladerunner751

    according to Mark Millar on twitter.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 7:52 p.m. CST

    @Cobra--Kai

    by ryan

    i love how @wannabedirector is talking unintelligent shit to you about film and then makes the following comment saying FUCKING RZA should direct Star Wars @wannabedirector take your weak wannabe shit and play in it. fucking rza lol my god.

  • I have no idea why GL introduced that retarded science into the SW mythos, Yoda thought it was shite too. Perhaps the fact it was becoming a real religion and growing in numbers was unsettling him and he wanted to curb the enthusiasm. So first off Disney needs to bring back the mystery and mysticism. Also they need to open up a Jedi Academy in mouseland where fans of all ages can experience JEdi training first hand.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:02 p.m. CST

    How about a reboot?

    by DocOpticus

    Can we handle that? I'd love to see it. Starting with Episode 1. Darker and edgier.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Killing planets and entire civilizations doesn't belong in Star Wars period

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

    Yes, there were a few brats killed in the Jedi Temple in ROTS and yes some kids probably died along with the other Tusken Raiders. But c'mon! The original trilogy hit that note WAY too hard. Especially in a movie with a big cute hairy Wookie and a little droid making beeps and whistles. There's a subtle art to violence in cinema but when genocide is proudly strutted about on screen then there is an utter disregard for what is prim and proper in this modern society. I SAY BURN LUCAS AT A STAKE AND REDIT A NEW HOPE TO HAVE ALDERAAN SPRAY PAINTED INSTEAD OF DESTROYED. <I can't believe how whacked out people get about Star Wars>

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:06 p.m. CST

    I'm probably the only talkbacker in the house who's not a fan of Matthew Vaughn

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    I hated Kick Ass.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:06 p.m. CST

    docopticus : No reboot

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

    We all want Episode I out of our thoughts and remaking A New Hope (IMHO) would not fly with people. That is like remaking The Godfather.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:07 p.m. CST

    obiwanna, hows your day going?

    by Harrison_Snored

    I like your hair. Your opinions are a little sarcastic for my taste.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:08 p.m. CST

    killing a planet is sci-fi

    by Harrison_Snored

    killing a child is uncomfortable to see at the very least.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:27 p.m. CST

    @Obiwanna

    by DocOpticus

    it all needs to be redone! I know how important the originals are but it's time to make all the movies work as a whole. We have a great story. Sure some chapters are shit, but someone needs to knock it out of the park. Ep1: Blomkamp Ep2: Cuaron Ep3: Tartakovsky (fuck yes) Ep4: Whedon Ep5: Zemekis Ep6: Wachowskis Ep7-9: I don't fekkin know...

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Stae Wars prquels now being criticized for being too violent? BWAHAHAHA!!!!

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    Hmmm..did we SEE the kids getting murdered? No....we saw Anakin/Vader igniting a lightsaber, then a cut to something else. How exactly is that not 'subtle'? As for the big rabbit stepping in shite? That wasn't in this film. That was in The Phantom Menace, and one of the best things about the prequels is how they progressed from the colorful childishness of Menace - a very kiddie oriented film - to a point where the lil' tyke screaming 'yiiippppee' was now killing kids himself and throttling his wife. Very bold and subversive move by Lucas, and I applaud him for having the balls to pull that off, despite what other failings the movies might have had. Lucas should have had Jar Jar offed in Sith to compound this point, cut down trying to heroically save Padme. The people who wished the character's demise in Menace would have got their wish, and would have found that their desires were misguided. That would have added to the subversiveness of the prequels, to have this big, annoying, goofy character (that the kids in the audience actually liked, if not the 30 something fanboys) horribly killed, in a different context that would have made you think twice about him.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:31 p.m. CST

    harrison_snored seems too fixated on child killing

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

    Is there something you want to tell us? Why the constant posts about killing kids? To me that is kinda sick to constantly harp on the subject. I really didn't think much about the subject until your constant posts.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Turd : Killing Jar Jar would have been priceless

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

    Instead we still see him in the Clone Wars...

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Don't worry AssPickleLives ...

    by DrMorbius

    there's a possibility that Lucas read your script and there'll be a planet named Cabrona, populated by Fauns and assor- ted goatlike creatures to sate your onanistic cravings.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:50 p.m. CST

    heres the star wars people want to see

    by dioxholsters_scion

    Han Solos kid is part of a new movemnent against Luke's jedi school. Some people see jedi as a negative force in politics and would like to see it end. Luke isnt the goody two shoes he was decades ago, his influence is great and tries be more like yoda but some see him as just like his father. Hes not too popular. hmm I need to give this more thought.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:55 p.m. CST

    he owes the fans

    by ShoreGrey

    We want everything to be just like the roginals...same characters, same costumes, same ships, same aliens, same film stock, same frame rate, same animated special effects

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:58 p.m. CST

    he owes the fans

    by ShoreGrey

    fuck it, I used quotes like a dumb-ass and lost my post. Fuck you AICN. My point being they don't owe you jack shit and you would complain about a movies just like the original being too same-ish. Also more practical effects, less CGI with both being icing on the cake and augmenting the story, not telling it.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 9 p.m. CST

    Movies have moved on

    by ShoreGrey

    Why can't you? Oh thats right...because you are an emotionally stunted, neck-bearded man-child that can't let go of their youth and grow the fuck up.

  • READ IT and learn it...it's different in the original movies because Luke fears it, respects it. Anakin does not, he sees it as a tool, something to attack with, for his own benefit... its just a piece of biology. Qui-gon doesnt get all mysticism with him because there is no reason to! Midis work because they show how caviler the Jedis became and how blindsided they were with Anakin's darkside turn... Why is this hard to understand?

  • Next time you try to be smart abut your atempts at criticisin

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 9:32 p.m. CST

    I'll go on record, feel free to disagree

    by Harrison_Snored

    I didn't enjoy the prequels.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 9:58 p.m. CST

    FUCK! Quotations ruined my post.

    by one9deuce

    I'll just retype it. If you're going to attack my intelligence scirocco, don't do it with this sentence: Next time you try to be smart abut your atempts at criticisin You misspelled three fucking words in one half of a sentence! And since you're on the internet, you're on a computer, tablet, or phone. Which means that you have spell-check, which is idiot proof. Well, ALMOST idiot proof. And congratulations, you can use Google and bring up some facts. The problem is that you didn't refute what I said. I never said that Darth Vader wasn't responsible for the death of children. In fact, it's a 100% certainty that he is since he was complicit in the destruction of Alderaan. But there is a BIG difference between a military order that results in the death of children, given during a conflict that benefits your side in a war, and actually slaughtering children and having their blood on your hands for NO GOOD REASON other than to show that Anakin is now really eeeeevil. I'll try again. Either read this upcoming sentence or re-read my earlier post and actually comprehend what I said. Darth Vader is a very bad person who is responsible for the deaths of many, including children. He is a villain through and through. He is not a serial killer. Which is how he comes off in Episode II and Episode III. A creepy, whiny, child killer in two separate scenes. harrison_snored, you're spot on. There is a subtle art to violence in cinema, and George Lucas comes off totally ham-fisted in the Prequel Trilogy. Talented directors can make you laugh about someone getting shot in one scene, then make you cringe about someone getting shot in another. Lucas is no longer a talented director and he botched the Prequels on a biblical level.

  • Putz. I hope Episode VII is nothing but baby death.

  • 1. Zach Snyder 2. Michael Bay 3. M. Night Shyamalan 4. J.J. Abrams 5. Bryan Singer 6. George Lucas Also, these dicks shouldn't write anything for Star Wars: 1) Abrams 2) Damon Lindelof 3) Orci/Kurtzman 4) Kevin Fucking Smith

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 10:36 p.m. CST

    hey larry_sanders

    by Harrison_Snored

    Are you in Los Angeles?

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 10:43 p.m. CST

    theveryfirst - Good list.....