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So, STAR WARS... What Happens Now?
Nordling here.
Moises and Beaks have the news aspect covered, so I thought I'd chime in with what I think all this means for us STAR WARS fans. I admit, this news has me giddy, because it's brought me back into the fold. It didn't take much. But the idea that STAR WARS would continue without George Lucas makes me happy - come on, doesn't it make you a little bit happy that he's moving on? For one thing, at some point, George Lucas signed off on this:
Let's get past all that now. Because it's now in the hands of Disney, and they will treat STAR WARS like... well, like a product. That's both good and bad. Because Disney will be sensitive to the opinions of fans the world over, we won't see many decisions made along the lines of Jar-Jar Binks, or the above video. And yet... it's a product, and we may be good and sick of STAR WARS this time ten years from now. I remember the merchandising juggernaut that was STAR WARS back in the 1980s... this will be something else, playing on kids just entering the universe, and adults nostalgic for it all... $4 billion? Disney's going to make that back easily. Let's also not forget about Indiana Jones, which will surely return, perhaps rebooted and reimagined, with a new lead actor.
I even read somewhere today about someone suggesting Indiana Jones team up with Howard Stark now that both characters are under the Disney umbrella, which tells me that the Age of Fan Fiction has truly arrived. I'm sure that won't happen - STAR WARS and Indiana Jones are definitely their own thing and I would think Lucasfilm, under the leadership of Kathleen Kennedy, would be very careful about how these characters are used - but who knows? It's a product. Always has been, and now under Disney, will be for many years.
This may seem like I'm pessimistic, but that's far from the truth. I'm genuinely excited to see these films unleashed from Lucas's bondage and set free among brilliant minds who have grown up with this universe and are now free to play in it. Already there's a ton of speculation on who should step up and direct the next one. I think fandom will demand a respectable name to at least direct the first movie, and although there are brilliant directors doing their own original work, I can't imagine a one of them turning down the opportunity to make a STAR WARS movie... as long as they are given that freedom. I'm also mighty curious about what this next trilogy will be about - I can only hope that the next three movies will continue with the story of the Skywalker family, but there's no reason why they can't deviate from that story strand. I'd love for Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, Harrison Ford, or Billy Dee Williams returning in some fashion, even if it's just a cameo, which would be likely. Perhaps Hamill can play Luke along the lines that Alec Guinness played Ben Kenobi, as a wise mentor (who then gets killed, perhaps).
George Lucas stated about the Prequels that they echoed the original movies, and I'd be curious to see if these next three do the same. But we could speculate all day on what these stories would be. I'm more curious as to what this means for the ancillary products - STAR WARS: THE CLONE WARS, which is actually getting quite good now, or the Expanded Universe books and whether or not they would be incorporated into canon in the new movie, or even the long-rumored live-action television show, which I'd imagine is somewhat impacted by this new news. Obviously this won't affect toy sales much if at all. We'll probably see even more sales as new characters are introduced.
So... who's going to make this new movie? Lucas, as "creative consultant," says he won't be hands-on, but we all know from experience and years of meddling that that's far from the truth. This is not 1979, as Lucas fretted over Irvin Kershner's EMPIRE, or Lucas totally dominating Richard Marquand on JEDI. Disney owns STAR WARS now, and will be very conscious as to how the new movie will proceed. With news entering the fansphere at hyperspeed pace, every tidbit of the new movie will be examined like so many tea leaves, and if Lucas begins to try to assert some control over his baby, he may find that Disney will not take too kindly to any of his interference. This is all speculation, of course , from the video released today, Lucas seemed genuinely relieved to be passing along the torch. So it's up to Disney to find someone who would be willing not only to shepherd the first film into existence, but perhaps the remaining two in the trilogy as well.
All I can hope is that they find a director who, when asked about their favorite STAR WARS movie, says without hesitation, "THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK." I hope they find an Edgar Wright, or a Rian Johnson, or even a Brad Bird or a Neill Blomkamp, who would be willing to play in this universe without sacrificing too much the intrinsic voice they have as artists. People clamoring for Joss Whedon can forget it - THE AVENGERS is his baby, and he's sticking with those stories for a while yet. I even thought Ben Affleck, of all people, would be a fine choice - he may not have the vision or imagination for STAR WARS, but he has a certain blue-collar workingman aspect to his movies that would probably suit STAR WARS just fine, especially in character development, which for me at this point is the most important aspect for these new movies to get right. But I do think that fans will want a trusted soul to take over the reins, and not a no-name director. If anything is to restore the confidence of fans, finding a director that clicks with both the material and the fanbase is an absolute must.
What will the new movies be about? If this is parts VII through IX of this saga, then obviously a key component will be gone, and that's the story of Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader, still the most compelling and my personal favorite character of the saga. I still think Hayden Christensen did fine in REVENGE OF THE SITH and ATTACK OF THE CLONES - he's no Olivier, but he got the job done. That character, obviously, is gone from the new movies, so I'm curious to know who these new movies will anchor around. Will it be Luke? His child, perhaps, or the child of Han and Leia? Will this follow the Expanded Universe at all? I'd actually prefer that they didn't and let the movies do their own thing. Those books, while enjoyable, have created a storyline now that is so convoluted that regular folks who are just coming at STAR WARS from the movies would be hopelessly lost. As for Vader, they shouldn't cheat by bringing him back, but I'd love to see how the impact of his character resonates in the new movies.
Finally, Fox still owns distribution of the original movies, and it's unclear if that's in perpetuity or if that expires with this new deal. I'd imagine now that we'll get new Blu-Rays of the original movies, and that this time they'll be the ORIGINAL original movies. George Lucas isn't standing over their shoulder anymore, and fans demand it, and so it will happen, there's just too much money to be made. How Fox and Disney work that out is anyone's guess, but I'd be very surprised if we didn't hear something within the next year or two. As for the Prequels, I think that they will likely continue to be enjoyed by future generations (even if their Gen X parents and grandparents scoff), and that includes THE CLONE WARS (which turned out rather well, I thought). But now that Disney has huge money and power to play in this universe, I really have no idea what happens next for STAR WARS.
And that is incredibly exciting to me. I remember seeing it for the first time in 1977, and having my life changed - as was many of yours. This is the best thing to happen to STAR WARS since... well, THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. I'm back in the fold again. I feel young again. Thank you, George, for handing this off for new artists, writers, and filmmakers. For STAR WARS to truly live, this needed to happen, and I could not be happier. May the Force be with us all tonight, and with Disney as they embark on this journey to a galaxy far, far away.
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Pretty sure that Star Wars became a product the moment it was popular. Why the hell else would Lucas crap out those ridiculous prequel films if not to milk it for just a bit more...product.
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Maybe there will be enough cash swilling around to get the live action TV series made?
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:27 p.m. CST
I'm reading comments from people across the web that just make me laugh "Disney will run Star Wars into it's grave!"
by StarQrtrs
um.... clearly these people didn't want the prequels.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:29 p.m. CST
CHRISTOPHER NOLAN or FINCHER to direct new films PLEASE!!!!!!!!
by peter
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Star Trek Next Generation Movies, Voyager, Deep Space 9, Enterprise - All were too close to one another. Cluttered the product. Made people not care. Any one of the above were fine (except Star Trek Nemesis...yeuch) But back when Paramount was milking every drop out of that cow, Trek became tiresome. I hope Disney treats Star Wars with a more cautious hand. Long term crops, rather than quick turn around buckets of milk. That is all.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:31 p.m. CST
I've never understood why some Star Wars fans feel so entitled. As if they created the SW universe themselves.
by slder78
Lucas created it and he can do with it as he likes. You may not have liked the result, but to damn him and spread glee at his departure is childish. Those types of people could only wish to have that flash of brilliance to make its mark in the arts. Grow up.
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BAD FORM NORDLING!
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and all you idiots can think is how good the next movie is going to be.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:33 p.m. CST
The fact that you thought Hayden Christensen did a "fine job" puts me off anything you have said
by D o o d
I have seen a piece of wood act (twin peaks) and it was better than Hayden.
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This is huge news. I think we're going to get everyone to write something on this.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:35 p.m. CST
hopefully lucas has a hands off role and is there in name only
by rakesh patel
he got paid 4 billion. you pay four billion you own it. WOUld anyone seriously care if lucas got a bee up his bonnet and put out a press release saying disney weren't listening to him? Hopefully this means decent tie in merchandise wise. disney knows how important that is, and they are masters at it. I'd love to see a tv series, however it maybe too early to even think about that. film first, maybe a spin off like shield and the avengers. don't overwhelm us give us what we like. The way disney / marvel listened to fan opinion help shaped the marvel film universe. Look i get we sometimes don't get it right, and you cant pander to everyone. but we know our shit. DIsney hopefully gets this and will listen to some of our opinions which im afraid for a long long while have been absent with lucas. This is amazing. i never thought we'd get third shot at this.
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Throw in Old Luke for one last hurrah and we all win.
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On the Stern show Seth Rogen said Lucas went on and on about the world ending in 2012. He said Lucas was not joking or being sarcastic. Lucas is clearly nuts, and I for one am glad he's out of the picture.
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...think of Pirates after the first movie. Remakes of Love Bug, Freaky Friday, Parent Trap, Absent Minded Professor. But, none of those are as bad as what Lucas did to Star Wars, contributed to in Indianna Jones, allowed to happen to American Graffiti 2.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:36 p.m. CST
am i the only fucking one who reads the article before commenting?
by rakesh patel
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I love all the movies on different levels, but I can't live without that opening buildup!
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:38 p.m. CST
Why doesn't Ben Affleck have the imagination for these films?
by alan_poon
Bit insulting of you if you ask me.
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That's going to be weird. Didn't think about that.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:39 p.m. CST
I don't believe Lucas will relinquish creative control
by Kain_Bloodstone
That's just PR spin because nobody wants him involved anymore. But Star Wars will always be his baby while he still draws breath. He will be the puppet master sculpting ep 7-9 exactly how he wants them. I'm convinced he planned this all along. Only a couple years ago, he was saying he only had a story for six films - now he magically has the story for the last three? Bullshit. He knew the story for decades. Consider that Mark Hamill is now the perfect age to play an old Jedi master. He was too young 16 years ago, not anymore. Anyone who thinks ol' turkey neck won't be controlling every aspect of the trilogy are smoking the wrong kind of weed.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:40 p.m. CST
What the inside scoop on why george sold the rights?
by Redhead_Redemption
Theres got to be a reason, whether it be bankruptcy or blackmail or...something The guy hovered over the franchise for 35 years and wouldn't let anyone else touch it, now one day he just goes "sure have it, i always intended others to take it over one day" something smells fishy here
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:41 p.m. CST
Honestly a little nervous that Disney will screw this up, but then again, Lucas kinda already did screw it up. So the only way is up... maybe.
by peter
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:41 p.m. CST
I hope they quit doing SAGAS and just do great one-offs.
by blackmantis
Like a great Bounty Hunter focused movie. Then one about Rebel pilots. Then another about the criminal underworld.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:42 p.m. CST
"THE CLONE WARS, which is actually getting quite good now" -
by D.Vader
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:43 p.m. CST
"THE CLONE WARS, which is actually getting quite good now" - Its BEEN GOOD
by D.Vader
Jeesus Nordling, its been good for years. Get with the program.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:43 p.m. CST
Thing is ... After the prequels the only way is WAY up ... Even they had 'moments' they were quality ... Never thought we would get more ... Incredible day.
by GINGE_MUPPET
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4 billion. for 4 billion you get the lot. lucas is nearing 70. not being funny but he's at the later stages of his life, he wants to hand this over and see how the new chapter goes on without him in his lifetime. whats he gonna do pack up his toys and take it to his grave with him? He gets to play with 4 billion and still be involved on the peripheral.
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...he has a relationship with Disney. He seems someone they will obviously pursue.
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Nolan? Fincher? Thrawn Trilogy? Why not Rob Zombie directing an NC17 rated "Shadows of the Empire" while we're at it? Christ, people.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:45 p.m. CST
I guess the Joe Johnston Boba Fett movie is a go then?
by kwisatzhaderach
Cool.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:45 p.m. CST
Can Pixar do a PG-13 cartoon on par with those KotOR trailers we seen.
by kindofabigdeal
Those shorts rekindled my love of the franchise. That and how good the Clone Wars has turned out. Let Brad Bird do a PG-13 animated Star Wars movie and watch it become the next Avengers success story.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:46 p.m. CST
Lucas sold it because he only cares about fucking money.
by Banned-ki-moon
This and everything else he's done for the last so and so years prove that.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:46 p.m. CST
If you think the Clone Wars is just now "getting quite good", Nordling...
by D.Vader
Then I'd say I don't think you've watched the show at all and are just jumping on the bandwagon based on what everyone else has said.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:46 p.m. CST
apple used to own pixlar, lucas own the trademark android.
by rakesh patel
are like apple and google step brother and sister now?
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Anthony Daniels and Peter Mayhew.
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The ONLY thing this changes IMO is no longer will I have the Fox fanfare at the beginning, which was once sacrosanct but by now is just another incidental element of a franchise that is barely a shadow of what it was. I like the TV show just fine, but overall Star Wars has no future for me anymore. Episode 7 in a few years? If it's ANY good it'll be a shock.
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Its coming
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Without giving up his voice? Uhhhh, if he wants the movie to feel like it fits in with the rest of the saga, he better DAMN WELL give up his "voice". What an idiotic notion. We need someone who can tell a great story in this pre-existing world, not someone who will make a movie that is obviously his own.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:49 p.m. CST
d.vader everyone seems to forget the true original clone wars series back in the day before the 3D animated one come to screen.
by peter
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:51 p.m. CST
Every hardon director and their dog will be up to direct a new SW film.
by peter
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Disney has done well with the Marvel brand. No reason to believe that they can't do the same with the Star Wars brand. Credit Disney for getting top flight directors (Kenneth Branaugh, Joss Whedon, Joe Johnston) for Marvel products. I think that Disney could revitalize the Star Wars brand. Also, now that Star Wars is out of Lucas' control, we may finally get the original trilogy without all the add shit Lucas has added over the years. Keep the matting corrections and other corrections and dump the CGI Jabba in A New Hope, the CGI band in Return, Hayden Christensen in Return, etc.
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I wanna see a column from everyone on this site with their interpretation of the situation and prediction for the future. Unfortunately, it just means the rest of us will have to spread ourselves thin between all the talkbacks or pick and choose our favorite authors to stick with. Either way, great idea. DO EET!
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Out of the majority of the EU books that were written up to the early/mid 2000s, Timothy Zahn has been, by far, the best writer who made the best concept and ran with it. The Yuuzhan Vong sucked, and the Jedi Academy was silly. Thrawn, on the other hand, (despite his penchant for deus ex machina foreknowledge) was a credible, threatening, and sympathetic villain surrounded by a cast of characters with surprisingly deep character motivations. Put that into Episodes 7, 8 and 9, and I will be there day one.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:52 p.m. CST
Seth McFarlane, Kevin Smith douchery will be dribbling at the chance to shoot one of these.
by peter
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I'm throwing names out there, one is bound to stick.
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Look at this talkback! How fortuitous! Yay big geek news breathing life into what used to be the first stop for geeks.
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question right now. Does Disney intend to release it thus fulfilling the dream of millions of fans? Or has Lucas put a term in the contract that obligates Disney to never release the OTT to the public? This is what i want to know right now. As for the future of SW and the rest of the LucasFilms, assets well they are in better hands now, that's for sure.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:54 p.m. CST
If we go beyond Ep. IX and into Episodes XIII-XIV, then I want a CLONED ANAKIN
by D.Vader
I want some dastardly fool to clone Anakin to torment future generations of Skywalkers. What? Why not? Let's go bugnuts once we get beyond Episodes VII-XII and past old Luke and his descendants.
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Put the keyboard down, and return to your mop.
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With statues made of him celebrating his defeat of The Dark Side and the Empire, but cautionary tales built around hubris and love and loss and stubborn defiance.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:57 p.m. CST
Disney is NOT calling the shots now - Lucasfilm is now owned by Disney, but Lucasfilm maintains full creative control
by ShiftyEyedDog
Much the same way Disney owns Marvel, but Marvel Studios has complete control over the direction of their films. Disney just owns them, markets them, and collects the profits.
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and he will need a new franchise after Twilight.
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He would be ideal to take the reins of the franchise forward.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:57 p.m. CST
Fortunately, Kathleen Kennedy is going to be calling shots on this. And she is rock solid. She will find the right director.
by joel007
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In the UK it would be questioned over competition. But America, probably it's something else. I did like what Disney has done with Marvel, although not pleased with Reboot after Reboot. How much of a share of Market audience will Disney have after this? They seem to be buying nearly all competition and entering new territory in the process. We will see what will come of this, yes the Star Wars franchise has just got Bigger in ownership-wise. Now comes the test, the quality of the product.
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His acting was wooden. He whined like a little school girl. I never bought there was any emotional struggle in him whatsoever other than the fact that he was an entitled little brat who thought he was too good for his mentor and thought he should have been given a master title. I blame Lucas for a lot of that, but the role really needed a far better actor who could show the inner turmoil of his seduction of the Dark Side. Christensen made me not care about his struggle with right and wrong because he made Anakin such an unlikeable character.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 7:58 p.m. CST
Yeah, I think Kevin Smith just blew the cheeto crums off his gut, dragged his ass off the couch and decided to unretire.
by joel007
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He hasn't directed in a while and he is Kathy's husband.
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I just want to have the original trilogy on Bluray without any redux edits. No new dialog, no alternate crappity crap with megaphonic fakatron 6000... I just want the movies the way I saw it in the theater. Hopefully the long held claims that Lucas destroyed the prints (that he restored to make the special editions) turn out to be not true.
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She would be great as a queen or something. A new queen.
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Can't be a good thing. Especially not at the cost of Disney having even more control over the world of film.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:02 p.m. CST
sisterspooky the merging has been allowed by the anti-trust permitted.
by frank
so everything is legal with this purchase.
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Well, I can dream can't I? Anyways, it is about time this happens. I think Disney got a steal by buying it for 4 Billion.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:03 p.m. CST
If Star Trek into Darkness does well, it WILL be Abrams
by AlienFanatic
The man has clout and has demonstrated that he's pretty good at Sci-Fi spectacle. He's also well known for taking a nostalgic approach to the Spielbergian (and Lucas-ian) films of the 70's and 80's and is also known to be a huge Star Wars fan. It will all ride on how well Trek does and if it does well, I fully expect him to helm it.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:04 p.m. CST
I don't see how they can continue the Skywalker/Vader arc
by Logan_1973
We basically already know the life story of both characters, so I think that plot is essentially dead. Same thing with the Rebel/Empire arc. The real interest here is what the new trilogy will center around. And I still say Whedon can manage at least one Star Wars film, maybe intbetween Avengers 2 and 3. But Niel Blomkamp is a great suggestion.
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He could be a good choice.
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Do you really think Disney paid $4 billion for Marvel and shelled out hundred of millions of dollars for each Marvel film without having some say of who would write, direct, and act in it and what the story lines would be? Sure they may let Marvel have the freedom to run their show to a certain point, but Disney is approving or disapproving every big decision. Disney has more control of Marvel than you give them credit for. They don't let Marvel run in a vaccuum without the Disney brass having some sort of control. Like most entities owned by major corporations, Marvel has the freedom to run the company day to day as they see fit. But they most likely have to get big picture (no pun intended) approval before Disney funds a $100-200 movie.
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It's A Trap!
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:05 p.m. CST
Does Lucas still get merch' profits? ... Or is it all gone??
by GINGE_MUPPET
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He has millions of fans.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:06 p.m. CST
Kevin Smith will try to get involved, then piss and moan on yet another webcast when he's x'ed out, all while wearing the same outfit for the past 12 years
by reflecto
And rambling about people expecting too much from him as a "fat bastard" while simultaneously whining about studios not giving him enough of a chance to shine
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he wants to give his company to someone else. In fact last year he was pretty determined that he is never going to make a new star wars and focus on his private projects. Dont forget that this kind of gigantic corporate mergings dont happen over a night. it takes months even years for both sides to come into a mutual agreement. I think Lucas was already working in the sale of his company when he said that last year.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:07 p.m. CST
LOL @ joel007 SO TRUE!!!!! I was thinking the exact same thing and Seth McFarlane just creamed his maybe gay maybe straight pants.
by peter
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... then Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, etc. can all reprise their roles. Maybe this is the way to go.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:09 p.m. CST
Nothing Disney does could be as terrible as the prequels. NOTHING.
by Raptor Jesus
Dear God they sucked SO BAD. George is a soul-less hack who got insanely rich off other peoples talent. Yes, I'm a hater. Please get GL OUT OF THE PICTURE. PERMANENTLY.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:09 p.m. CST
Somewhere Kevin Smith is contemplating giving Mickey Mouse head or any Disney associate whom can make a decision in his favor.
by peter
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:09 p.m. CST
@logan_1973. What makes the most sense is taking Zahn's ideas about a post-Jedi future with Han and Leia's force-aware kids and move forward
by AlienFanatic
You can then make seven the handoff movie with cameos by the usual suspects ,then move ahead with new films featuring the Jedi kids (probably in their 20's or early 30's). There are going to be some HUGE stars that attach themselves to this flick.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:10 p.m. CST
And another thing: They already have a plan and a draft for the upcoming
by frank
trilogy which means that not only this thing was into planning for at least a year but also that Lucas probably had a lot of personal input in the writing of the draft as an idea man. So i dont beleive that the upcoming will be pure Disney but it will still has Lucas touch. Which it is not necessarily a bad thing. Lucas is a great idea man but not a very good artist.
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We remove our soiled underwear.
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It's a no-brainer. You get to use the old cast, but they won't look old.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:12 p.m. CST
I'd luv to see a star wars movie that features the Skywalkers as a minor part at most
by theblackvegtable
So many possibilities! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
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He has proven that he can handle big movies with his Transformers trilogy.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:13 p.m. CST
Think positive people!! New Star Wars in 3 years!!
by death metal batman
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:13 p.m. CST
Lucas's basic ideas often work. It's execution and letting him anywhere near the script or camera.
by reflecto
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:14 p.m. CST
If Ford doesn't come back as Solo, we can still have Chewie...
by D.Vader
And older Chewie who still feels he owes a debt to Solo and Leia's children...
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:14 p.m. CST
Frank Darabont ... maybe Steven ... Need directors who can do epic WITH acting ....
by GINGE_MUPPET
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:17 p.m. CST
FUCK STAR WARS... why should we care anymore after what Lucas has done to this franchise?
by grendel69
Fuck Lucas.... the man has ZERO artistic integrity.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:17 p.m. CST
Darth Maul back on the big screen with his robot legs ..... Make it happen!!!!
by GINGE_MUPPET
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You know I could go for a sandwich, but uh, I'm not gonna open two jars. I can't be opening and closing all kinds of jars. And who knows how many knives!
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:20 p.m. CST
LUCAS ANNOUNCES HE WILL CONTINUE TO WRITE AND DIRECT ALL LIVE ACTION STAR WARS MOVIES!!!!!!!
by iampain
joking!!!!
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If I was a betting man, I would put my money on Bird as director.
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This universe is a lot bigger than that. And that story is finished. I don't want it to drag on. SOMETHING NEW, PLEASE.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:25 p.m. CST
Kevin Smith would be the first to admit he couldn't handle a film of this scale.
by moorE12
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ITS A TRAP!!!!
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:26 p.m. CST
Probably kept secret because no one would believe it could happen ... Lucas has all the money in the universe. Very strange.
by GINGE_MUPPET
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We will get Eps 7-9 to round out the story of the Skywalkers. Then more independent movies, maybe like Star Wars:Boba Fett, Star Wars:Old Republic, Star Wars:Insert idea here. I just hope it doesn't get too much overkill. I love Star Wars, but if I'm drowning in it, won't be as much fun.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:27 p.m. CST
I get that Lucas wants to see what others do with his babay before he dies
by Redhead_Redemption
But I can't buy that thats the reason he sold everything. He could have easily kept lucasfilm and allowed other directors to come in and make more movies. Unless he doesn't think he can keep his fingers out of the pot and needed someone else in charge to tell him "no" when he want one of the characters to fart
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And if you get peanut butter, get smooth.
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To bring back practical aliens and effects. To quote George Lucas himself, before he lost his way "A special effect is a tool, a means of telling a story. A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing."
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All I could think about was how South Park may react, showing Lucas and Spielberg selling the bound and raped Indiana Jones to Mickey Mouse. Too much TV, I suppose.
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Joseph Kosinski at top of list for new Star Wars. Wait for it.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:33 p.m. CST
To say this news made my day is the understatement of the century! YES!!!
by 6000_little_griglets
Quote: Disney expects to more aggressively expand the Star Wars film schedule, Iger said in a statement. Following the release of Episode 7 in 2015, "our long term plan is to release a new Star Wars feature film every two to three years," Iger said. Star Wars Episodes 8 and 9, Iger said, would follow "probably on a cadence of every other year and then go from there. . . . The (first) film is in early stage development right now. End Quote.
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But if a dump truck of money backs into his driveway...
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Will direct Episode 7. Mark my words.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:36 p.m. CST
I do think Gore Verbinski would be a good fit, IF The Lone Ranger succeeds.
by peter
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Disney is notoriously stingy with their product in terms of fans. How will this effect costuming groups like Rebel Legion and the 501st? What about Star Wars Celebration events and other scifi conventions?
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:38 p.m. CST
So in 2015 we'll have this new STAR WARS uh..thing, and have A NEW HOPE in 3D on the big screen. Weird.
by TheUmpireStrokesBach
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:38 p.m. CST
Thrawn Trilogy is CRAP. They will NOT make movies of those (THANK GOD)
by ShiftyEyedDog
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Star Wars is finally pulled from under the weight of George Lucus! This is our best chance to get a Star Wars movie that we all really want. And after the way Disney handled Marvel, I really have my hopes up for what they can do with Star Wars.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:40 p.m. CST
...and also what happens when you mash Marvel and ILM together
by craptacular
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And the biggest cross over in Movie hollywood history will finally happen! Millennium Falcon vs Enterprise!
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:41 p.m. CST
Ok, first of all...my mind is still blown after 2 hrs of finding out the news. Still trying to process it all.
by Sean
I am a MASSIVE SW fan. IT is probably my biggest geek and artistic influence and probably also my first movie watched. Child of the 80's. My love for SW was so rabid that even when people would criticise parts of it, i would defend it with such passion (hands up to my ears, "la la la, not listening!" ...maybe even denial. AS i've grown up, analysed and studied film in the pursuit to beging making them myself, i have realised that SW and other IP's do have some flaws here and there, they aren't perfect maybe. BUt they are just small issues and i don't get myself quite so up in arms nowadays as other geeks do. Jar Jar doesn't rape my childhood. I actually kind of like the guy. What really pisses me off is the nagativity thrown onto Lucas. If he didn't create Star Wars in the first place, you wouldn't have this world to worship. Be fucking grateful. You think he's ruining YOUR beloved trilogy? Its HIS to ruin. He can do whatever the fuck he wants with it (before the sale to Disney) and you just have the faith that you will like what he produces. That really does get under my skin. You may not agree with every step Lucas has taken but...it is art, we all have different viewpoints on what is cool or not. So many of us bitch on about wanting artists...think Image Comics, think directors of Marvel films, directors of ANYTHING for example...having creative control to express and realise their vision without interference. Lucas has had the control most of us dream of having for OVER 30 years. It is unchecked, he doesn't answer to anyone really...and that might risk an ego going nuts and making poor decisions. But i'd rather an artist free to produce what they like rather than stifling conditions. With Lucas only consulting, it is a new era where someone else can play in the sand box...but please, give the man some fucking respect. Sometimes i wonder how he must feel about all the fan backlash, the fact he can't please everyone...especially uber geeks that take it all a bit too personally and imagine Lucas to feel a bit down sometimes. I think about offering him a handshake, a hug and a thank you. Then i also realise he has more money than God and figure, he's probably doing pretty ok without my input.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:41 p.m. CST
Good little consumers, accept whatever Mother Establishment gives you...
by TopHat
So this is how originality ends - To thunderous applause
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:42 p.m. CST
You whiners better not bitch about this- you got exactly what you wanted.
by Cotton_Mcknight
I'm still in shock over this news. This is the equivelant of Jerry Jones announcing that he is going to retire from "football operations" and hire a general manager for the Dallas Cowboys. I literally never thought I would see the day.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:49 p.m. CST
Matching Howard the Duck/Donald Duck bobbleheads are what's next.
by justmyluck
As long as The Mouse gives us the SW OT original releases restored in HD or higher I honestly don't give a shit what they do with LFL's properties.
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Armies of Jedi vs Sith on the battlefield... begs to be put on the big screen. Watch any of the 3 trailers for the Old Republic MMO (Deceived, Hope, and I forget the 3rd one) and tell me 2 hrs of that wouldn't be amazing.
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Lucas said that he has storylines for VII-IX that involve Luke and it's set generations after ROTJ. Darth Vader won't be brought back. Anakin was a ghost at the end of ROTJ and Lucas already bumped the old actor for Hayden. For most youngsters, Hayden is the only ghost. I expect to see Hayden visiting Luke in ghost form as Anakin Skywalker. I don't expect Luke to have any offspring, but Leia might. Twins? The Dark Side didn't go away, anything or anyone could learn from it. Go back to the twins, brother vs. brother. A couple of generations couldn't re-build the Jedi order into any large numbers. They'd be a small, younger band, at best. There will probably still be a lot of trust issues regarding the Jedi, after the events in Episode III. They never got a chance to clear their name and many in the senate or in control may still have issues with so many powerful beings in charge and don't like their control, despite the protection they give. The force needs to be fully explained. People were confused about Midichlorians. They thought and still think the force was explained as organic. But the truth in the story is that the force is attracted to the Midichlorians. Thus why some like Han can't use the force while it's strong with others like Luke, Anakin..etc. The higher the count, the more the force is strong with them. Also, the origins of the force in their universe can also be explained. The Clone Wars touched on the Dark Side (sourced from a certain planet). Without any Jedi Order for so long, many characters strong with the force must be using their talents for other things, just not trained properly. Someone (Luke) must be out to find them, along with anyone he's already found. The Dark Side is still there and possibly gathering dark troops (without any true leadership or Sith Lords to be their apprentice. Running wild with great powers uncontrolled. Maybe both Luke and a certain Sith have to team up to control them, while the Sith will eventually turn against Luke to take over the universe, once again. Overall...in a big galaxy/universe of Star Wars, there's plenty of good and evil to go around. I'm sure we'll see a ghost Yoda, too. May 2015 is only 2.5 years away.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:52 p.m. CST
On why Lucas sold it.. he probably has given up being his own privately funded studio after Red Tails.
by Charlie
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...Samurai style in honor of this announcement.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:52 p.m. CST
To whomever said Michael Bay should direct this thing... I will take that as a very funny joke and move on.
by ass clown
Give the movie to Quentin Tarrentino.... Who cares how it turns out.... It will be interesting
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My concern is whether or not this follows the Skywalker family saga. Ten years ago you could've gotten Fisher and Ford back but now? I think its too late. You could recast their roles, but that'd be risky. And on his best day, fully medicated Ford hated SW. You think he comes back now? I'd rather see them move on to the Old Republic.
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I am a little more enthusiastic than a few hours ago. Get Brad Bird to do 7 and I will see it over and over, just like 4 and 5. Anyone else I would have trouble trusting, there is too much to get too wrong just too easily. He worked miracles with MI4, he can do it again with SW7 Fingers crossed X
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:54 p.m. CST
Also concentrate on someone's fall to the dark side...
by SlickyVonBoner
And make it much more realistic and threatening than Anakin fighting his best friend and killing children over a bad dream he had.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:54 p.m. CST
Go watch the new TRON movie if you want to know how EPISODE VII will turn out
by ScreamingPenis
Seriously. Episode VII will be slick, expensive, and neat looking - a safe commercial bet - with lots of skimping on plots and characters. Sort of like the latest DIE HARD, something to keep Dad interested but also something his son likes.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:55 p.m. CST
It's a good thing that Lucas has a hand in the treatments for Ep. 7-9 and has a role as a consultant
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
He's a visionary ideas man, it's the execution that's sometimes not up to par. I trust Lucas to come up with a better original story treatment than some Hollwood screenwriting hack, and this also will create a smooth transition between the Lucas and Disney eras of SW. It's the stand-alone and side story movies that will inevitably come after the sequel trilogy that people should really be worried about. Star Wars Origins: Boba Fett, scripted by David Koepp? Ughh. Star Wars: The Old Republic, scripted by Orci and Kurtzmann? Bleghh!! It'll be like the SW EU on film: convoluted, messy, inconsistent and of varying quality.
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AVENGERS turned out more than okay, did it not?
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And expaned parks. This could be Disney's World of Harry Potter.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 8:58 p.m. CST
NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOoOooooooOOOOooooOOOOOoooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by chainsaw autotune
i mean- YYYEEEEEEeeeeEEeeeEEEeesSSssSSSsssS!!!!!!!!!!
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AICN crew apparently make long rambling write-ups full of speculation and conjecture based on nothing, and none of them have any clue what happens next either. How...useless...
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Post-HUGO, I could totally see him getting into a 3C sci fi epic...
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Oct. 30, 2012, 9:03 p.m. CST
Please. PLEASE! Keep the hack directors from Pixar, and the dopes who marketed JOHN CARTER away from the Star Wars Universe!
by planetran_fan
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He went from voicing the Joker to looking like Clayface. Enough with the Skywalker stories, move on to something else already. On a side note, I wonder if this means we might get the original trilogy on blu ray at some point now that Lucas is out of the picture.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 9:05 p.m. CST
I often wonder if Lucas regrets how the prequels turned out?? ...
by GINGE_MUPPET
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For years he has been hinting at having information on Lucas making moves towards a third trilogy. You can tell that story now Harry.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 9:07 p.m. CST
A great day ... The journey starts now. Off to bed to imagine whats to come ...
by GINGE_MUPPET
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It can only get better without Lucas 100% in charge. He's made a mess of the franchise for decades.
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If they could re-cast James Bond six times over the course of 50 years, there's nothing saying that Harrison Ford can be the only person ever to play the role. Hell, Indy has already been played by three other actors in the Young Indy TV series. People will grumble the same way when Sean Connery left the 007 series, but who knows...there may be another actor who will become as iconic in the role given a shot. And with a younger actor, they could have Indy back in the 1930's and 40's again. They wouldn't even have to "reboot" anything...they could set Indy stories in any year, and still have the previous four stay in the same continuity. Someone put Josh Holloway in the fedora and designer stubble.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 9:12 p.m. CST
Edgar Wright? Thrawn? Taylor Lautner? Will you basement dwellers buy a clue, please.
by Brian Hopper
This is Star Wars, soon to be owned by the freaking Walt Disney Company. They are not gonna blow this on lame story ideas or untested/questionable casting and behind-the-camera 'talent.' The formula will not deviate too dramatically from the first six movies. The director will be a known quantity... someone who can deliver a successful big budget fx-laden movie. (Verbinski, Brad Bird, Ron Howard, etc.) And it will be BIG... not a retread of previous ideas about what a post-ROTJ Star Wars universe looks like.
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you know you want it bitches
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yes indeed yes indeed.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 9:16 p.m. CST
They'll use digital Luke, Han, and Leia if they do it. I'd almost like to see the SEQUEL TRILOGY (has anyone called it that yet) be done all in CGI
by Autodidact
If they use filmed actors they can still CGI younger versions of the old actors into the scenes for Luke, Han, Leia, etc. By 2015 you'll hardly be able to tell it's not a 45 year-old Harrison Ford. But I wouldn't mind if the sequels were some kind of departure from focussing on the Skywalker lineage.
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Sorry, everyone knows it. I predict JOHN CARTER TWO: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO followed by FUCK WE MADE ANOTHER CASH GRAB BITCHES followed by HASTY TIE UP OF LOOSE ENDS AND RETCON OF EVERYTHING ACCIDENTALLY INTERESTING.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 9:18 p.m. CST
Love this news.... and yes, Hayden did just fine...geez, everyone is Lee Strasburg with that kid! asses.
by Dan
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Oct. 30, 2012, 9:19 p.m. CST
You know it's going to be Ron Howard. Lucas already trusted him with WILLOW way back when, and he's open due to the DARK TOWER breakup.
by planetran_fan
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coming soon to a theater near you....
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I do like the idea of Mark Hamill as old Man Mentor...
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Spielberg has been begging to direct a Star Wars film for decades. Kathleen Kennedy was one of his top people. Before anyone else gets a crack at doing one, I think he'll get right of first refusal for Ep. VII.
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Nathon Fillion as Solo. Kate Beckingsale as Leia. Anthony Mackie as Lando. Jason Issacs as Grand Admiral Thrawn. Book it!!!!!!!
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http://imgur.com/p4eD1
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only he can do it properly
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Oct. 30, 2012, 9:24 p.m. CST
I think the biggest directors who will be wanted to make the new Star Wars movies...
by D.Vader
1. Steve Spielberg (who will say no) 2. Peter Jackson (who will want to rewrite the script) 3. JJ Abrams (who will want to rewrite the script) 4. Joss Whedon (who will want to rewrite the script) 5. Gore Verbinski (I think he has the perfect sensibilities for this) So 3 out of 5 of those guys like to direct from scripts they had a hand in writing. So I doubt 2-4 will get the job, especially with Whedon busy on SHIELD and Avengers 2, though he could end up making a SW chapter in the future. And I doubt Verbinski is going to be able to make Episode VII, BUT if I had to bet on a big budget director who'd be perfect for the material, I'd go with Verbinski. I think his films have great action and a great look, and best of all, the right kind of humor. Whedon would be too snarky and Jackson might be too childish at times. But I think Verbinski is very versatile (hello "The Ring" and "Mouse Hunt") and would *adapt* to the material to make sure his Star Wars movie felt right at home with the rest of the saga (which is why Nordling's suggestion of Edgar Wright is so far off the mark). Blomkamp is too serious, Nolan is too, Cameron has his Star Wars already, Andrew Stanton won't get the offer, so maybe, maybe Brad Bird would get a chance. But I'm sticking with Verbinski.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 9:24 p.m. CST
Hayden Christiansen is not a bad actor, but he was all wrong for the part.
by FluffyUnbound
The problem is that Lucas decided to make him a physical and personality analogue of Luke (yeah yeah yeah I know they're related) and Luke is, unfortunately, a giant pussy. Vader had physical presence, menace, and a FUCKING MAN'S VOICE. He was not a pussy. Casting Christiansen (who is a decent actor but is not particularly shall we say masculine on screen) meant that anyone reasonably observant spent two movies saying *This pussy turns into Vader?* the entire time the main character was on screen. That's what ruined the prequels, more than any other factor. More than the dialogue, more than the weightless CGI, more than the incompetent and unthreatening battle droids, more than Jar Jar. The prequels were ruined because Vader - Darth Fucking Vader - comes across as a giant pussy. And that was a failure of casting.
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Disney already hosts Star Wars weekends at the Disney Studios park and the 501st is the biggest part of it. Celebration has been held in Orlando a couple times now. If anything, I see this as solidifying relationships that are already strong.
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part cyborg, part bad cgi, all darkness. and toys.
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The tone in the first Pirates movie, in particular, comes close to the right sensibility for a new Star Wars movie. Brad Bird goes high on the list, too. Ron Howard seems to need a project, so I bet he gets a look. One interesting thing is, they really need to line up a director soon, certainly by early next year.
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Like James Bond, I feel like Star Wars could go on forever, the universe is so big that you could tell endless stories. Disney has done fine with Marvel so far, so I can only hope we get that Avengers like Star Wars film that kills at the boxoffice. It's nice to having that feeling again, that we will see trailers, and read stuff up about new SW films. Disney getting this means it will stay alive, and I really don't wanna be a geek in a world without it.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 9:34 p.m. CST
Yes, ads913 . . . Straczynski would be an AWESOME story writer with the big ideas. But not the director (and especially not the casting director)
by WerePlatypus
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And now we live in an age where this (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/055/5/8/dr__doom_vs__darth_vader_by_hehlfire-d3ac6u1.jpg) can happen. Truly it is an age of wonders.
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I think so.
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If anyone could convince Steven Spielberg to been his producer for years obviously, I think he would love to do it, but probably won't so not to piss off his mate and piss off his mates at Dreamworks.......so its going to be Bird with a script by Darabont re-written by some whipper snapper.............MARK MY WORDS!
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Oct. 30, 2012, 9:37 p.m. CST
Turd: Agreed. Lucas's ideas are often devilishly simple and beautiful, childlike and magic. But he cannot be allowed to screenwrite or direct.
by reflecto
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I think comic book movies, in general, are sh*t so that might not be a good barometer. My vision for Episode VII is something with an epic myth in it, like Prometheus, but with less darkness and less gore, obviously. Yah, Avengers was fairly well put together but much like Tron really lacked character depth/arcs.
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It's easy to think of young, hip directors who'd look to craft this into 300 or something but if you paired Ang Lee with a sharp writer it could work. Brad Bird is another fine choice. Not excited about Verbinski at all, though Pirates biggest weakness in the last couple was the writing.
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I have to say this COULD be interesting to see. Yes, it becomes interesting to get into a geek debate about "who" should be brought in to handle an Episode 7, and "who" would not only do the property justice, but could do SUCH a great job that they'd wash away the stink of the prequels and essentially give STAR WARS a reset, so people could get excited about it once again. And that alone is a tall order given how bad the prequels turned out to be (let's be honest, with each passing years, they look worse and worse and you find yourself saying more and more "Holy crap, what disasters. What the hell was Lucas even thinking???" On the other hand, Nordling cracks me up when he says: "For one thing, at some point, George Lucas signed off on this (the video dancing game)"...and then adds "we won't see many decisions made along the lines of Jar-Jar Binks or the above video." Wait...what???? Are you kidding me? It's FUCKING DISNEY. Absolute and undisputed King of "how much can we whore something out?" corporations. Which means -- yes, perhaps the chance for getting a new movie that's better than the prequels might exist -- but don't kid yourself either. It's fucking Disney which means OF COURSE you're going to see future spin-off things like that dancing video game, to pimp the SW brand as much as possible. And you're truly delusional if you believe otherwise. Seriously, I have no idea what drugs Nordling was on when he wrote that sentence, but it must've been some pretty powerful shit.
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Seriously, he looked and sounded defeated.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 9:41 p.m. CST
How can a Star Wars Film begin without the 20th Century Fox Intro? Blasphemy! http://youtu.be/0WS33dNxKYc
by Orionsangels
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I'd think he'd be to expensive. But I don't see anything on his plate other than Robopocalypse. He's fast, knows the universe and company. War Horse, Lincoln are partnered with Disney. Kathleen Kennedy has been a producer on almost every single Spielberg film. Who else brings it big like him? War of the Worlds, Minority Report, Indy I-IV, Close Encounters, Jurassic Park, AI, Saving Private Ryan, Schindler's List... you could mash those up and it's Star Wars VII.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 9:47 p.m. CST
I'm just waiting for some HOBBIT news or possible video blog
by DoctorWho?
I love SW as much as the next guy. I was one of those 8 yr old kids in '77. But guys, that ship has loooong sailed. Surprised anyone has any optimism about this at all. Just business.
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I think he'd say no bc he'd feel his time to make a SW movie with Lucas- and without ANY input from a Studio dictating how best to direct their new franchise- has passed. Sure, all his friends are involved, and sure, its his second chance... but I just don't see it happening. I don't see Disney doing it. But, I'd be incredibly into it if it did. But I think its out of his hands. Its such an uncharted territory we're entering into, its unprecedented; anything could happen. Spielberg has never picked up someone else's franchise he had nothing to do with and directed a sequel to someone else's work... but he's getting older, he just might change his mind.
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I don't feel the prequels were SO BAD that we need to wash away any bad taste, rather I think we need to keep the sensibility of the the original trilogy , but stay away from kiddie & toilet humor. Episode III holds up rather well and shows that Lucas could do a good Star Wars film if he let loose once in a while.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 9:49 p.m. CST
Many Of The Seven Dwarfs Died To Bring Us This Information
by Orionsangels
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The original movies, un-Fucked with, cleaned up, restored nicely, and on Blu NOW!! dammit! Now that gets me giddy!
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1 - Get the tv show going finally. 2 - Give us SW on blu PROPERLY. By proper I mean include the OT so fans of the OT can finally have what they want. And for Christ sake give us a SW SE that is worthy of being called special. There are SE fans out there and most of us like what adywan did with SW and currently with ESB. Long story short - just get a decent team on the movies and for the love of God let's get decent light sabers and consistency. Fuck ILM for their shoddy work in 2004 and 2011. 3 - If they are going ahead with 7-9 please make it so they don't suck. That is all.........get to work Disney.
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The guy invented Boba Fett, give him a chance!
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Indy isn't James Bond, he is the son of James bond. Rebooting Indiana Jones is laughable Moviegoers who don't understand this are fools
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Oct. 30, 2012, 9:58 p.m. CST
That's a good point about the opening 20th century fox drumroll..
by quadrupletree
You absolutely can NOT have a Star Wars movie with out that! It isn't Star Wars without it. Also new movies without John Williams will be tough to do right, and he's no spring chicken. They better move fast on those three new ones! So what happens to the long time in development TV series now?? So many questions!
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10 p.m. CST
I think the question is: Will the next director be allowed to create actual jeopardy?
by FluffyUnbound
In addition to the *Darth Vader is a pussy* problem, one other hugely significant problem with the prequels was the utter absence of any sense of jeopardy. I think that was partially because of Lucas as he aged started to think he needed to neuter the films to make them *suitable for children*. So the prequels essentially consist of our heroes easily strolling around and killing huge numbers of battle droids with no jeopardy whatsoever until the plot reaches a point where some minor character has to die. There's no fear for the heroes, and no real moral cost to their actions (the Stormtroopers were a real enemy, even when they couldn't shoot straight). Will Disney make that better or worse? I don't know. They may go full kiddie. God knows if they get Spielberg to direct we can look forward to three films of people shaking keys at each other.
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Fox owns distribution rights the original Star Wars film (aka Episode IV: A New Hope) in perpetuity in all media. They own distribution of all other existing Star Wars films (sequels and prequels) through 2020.
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No doubt about it. RIP da - da da daaaa - da da da da da da da da DA da da da da da daa da da da.....
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prodigiously talented youths, corrupted by success, warped by greed and power, who ultimately redeem themselves.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:02 p.m. CST
They NEED a director of Spielberg's prestige
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
This is going to be a flagship film for Disney, and it has to pave the way for the future of this franchise. I don't see them settling for any old solid journeyman. I don't even see this as an Iron Man situation, ie. a nice blockbuster surprise that, while paving the way for future Marvel films, was a little bit under the radar. This is Star Wars. This WILL be an enormous deal. And I see them selecting an A-list director to match that.
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The rat is dangerous.
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after sooooooo many years of brushing off fans and reporters and internet rumors. Hell look at this...... http://www.geeksofdoom.com/2012/01/12/george-lucas-says-red-tails-is-as-close-to-star-wars-episode-7-as-well-get/ George Lucas Says ‘Red Tails’ Is As Close To ‘Star Wars: Episode 7′ As We’ll Get HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHAH!!!!!!!!!
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:07 p.m. CST
Spielberg would make this for 8 year old's, because that's who he will think it is for, guys.
by FluffyUnbound
Don't wish for Spielberg. You'll get TINTIN Spielberg, or *I'm going to edit ET because it's not G rated enough* Spielberg. You will not get SAVING PRIVATE RYAN Spielberg or MINORITY REPORT Spielberg. Root for Bird if you're going to root for anybody.
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I would be excited by al 3 if a Whedon-quality script was penned. Bird is an amazing action director that understands charm, character dynamics and comedic timing. Lee has done swordplay and romance well before. Abrams loves Star Wars enough but it seems unlikely given Trek. Jackson has directed a recent epic, understands FX, and understands character. He's also improving with age. All things considered, Brad Bird should be the primary target. You want somebody on the rise like Abrams was for Trek. Bird seems to have everything you'd want for an undertaking of this magnitude.
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Tarantino. Big departure from his style of movie, but he's talented enough to be able to adapt. Writes great dialogue and is a big movie geek.
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agreed about wrong casting. They needed an actor who could do pathos or crazy. Not a pretty boy like Pitt, but someone who could really act the pathos like the late Ledger back then or even Christian Bale.
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We'll get Raiders Spielberg, which is the perfect tone and mix between fun and serious - and the perfect approach for SW. Don't want to see Minority Report Spielberg; that movie was mediocre and rather flat by Spielberg's standards. I wouldn't even expect the ultra-serious 'literary' Spielberg of SPR, Munich or Lincoln anyway; that would be all wrong for SW. The key thing is the script, though.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:16 p.m. CST
Yeah, as close to Episode 7 as we'll get...how could he have said that with a straight face?
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
And yet he must have been working on the treatments even then. That was only nine months ago, after all. Lucas would make a hell of a poker player...
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One of the best films in his output of the last 15 years.
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Guardians of the Galaxy will end with Thanos escaping the Guardians by hyperjumping with a stolen Imperial Ship. He ends up landing on modern Earth and facing off against the Avengers...this time joined by an unfrozen Indiana Jones! Just when the world is about to end, Luke Skywalker and the Guardians of the Galaxy show up and join the fight. It ends with Kermit the Frog teaming up with the Hulk in order to lay the smack down on Thanos once and for all. Buzzlight year smiles in triumph.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:18 p.m. CST
Some great director names thrown out here. Hadn't seen Jon Faverau mentioned yet...
by quadrupletree
He'd be awesome! He's a geek. One of us. Has totally the right sensibilities. And he rocked Iron Man! I'd sooo be there for that!
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That Spielberg could do more with shining bright lights through Venetian blinds and winding up some kids' toys than Lucas did with the entire prequels effects budget.
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I imagine in my mind that this deal has been in negotiations for a bit of time. Opening discussions... The selection of Kathleen Kennedy into her position with Lucas Films prior to this announcement was certainly made with this deal in mind. And Lucas must've consulted Spielberg prior to even the decision to appoint KK. Added to the fact is nothing on Spielberg's plate. He's the one. It's already been decided. Then there is speculation about Lucas's health, which is probably JUST speculation. But remember AI + Kubrick. He finished it from respect and honor. Steve Jobs has passed on, a key figure with Pixar... Kubrick has passed. I want to see a Spielberg Star Wars Trilogy filmed in 3D. This is legacy. Then they can pass the torch.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:19 p.m. CST
Gonna go WAAAAY out on a limb, here. It'll probably break, but...what about Andrew Stanton
by AlienFanatic
I know John Carter bombed, but I swear it was the most Star Wars-y non-Star Wars film I've ever seen. It had a HORRIBLE lead actor, but in every other aspect it was a terrific film from a director that knew exactly what he wanted, a guy who knew effects, and loves sci-fi material. I really think that if he's not been blackballed forever, he'd be a great fit.
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... I am still in shock.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:20 p.m. CST
There is alread Legos Star Wars stuff - Muppets version of Star Wars?
by LeftFoot
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A sequel to Return of the Jedi will be in theaters in 2015....COMPETING with Avengers 2 and Justice League. TRY TO WRAP YOUR FUCKING HEADS AROUND THAT ONE.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:21 p.m. CST
Top 3: Steven Spielberg, Brad Bird, Rian Johnson. Any of them could do it smart for an all-ages audience. Assuming Joss is busy.
by reflecto
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David Lynch. Lucas was a fan of Eraserhead, and after Lynch made The Elephant Man, Lucas wanted him to direct Jedi. In a weird sort of way, I can see Lynch meshing with Star Wars; his visual style is so clean and vivid.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:24 p.m. CST
The things I miss having a job where I can't get to a computer.
by MCVamp
Hol-ee geez. I think the best thing to do would be to completely ignore the convoluted trip that the "Extended Universe" novels became. The Zahn novels and a couple of the one-shots were decent, but the Kevin Anderson trilogy (O HAI CRAPPY DUNE PREQUELS) really drove home that these were churned out, unimaginative garbage. I have no idea where they've currently left off, I stopped reading right after the book where they killed Chewbacca because it was becoming Star Wars for the sake of Star Wars rather than stories I enjoyed (and it's not even Chewie's death that bothered me.) I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way, just like I'm sure there are people who consider the Ex. Universe books as holy writ that should immediately be Pixared onto the big screen. Those people are so very wrong.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:24 p.m. CST
I secretly hope it's Ratner or McG or Bay just to see everyone shit rage blood
by FluffyUnbound
Ratner. That would be awesome. The whining that would result from that announcement would be epic. It would be the first instance of epic whining ever.
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, remember? At the time it was their biggest budgeted movie in the wake of Star Wars. http://youtu.be/qzUJJKDa558 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFv9ZRAqG1s It was their darkest movie at the time.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:25 p.m. CST
Or Paul WS Andersen. Holy shit that would be so funny.
by FluffyUnbound
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:26 p.m. CST
d.vader, Spielberg's best post-Ryan is Munich
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
Then Catch Me If You Can. Minority Report is ruined by the LA confidential-aping last third, the action peters out about half the way through, the ending is sentimental tripe, and it looks more like a Paul Verhoeven movie than a Spielberg one (minus the gore and sex). Based on the rave reviews at the time I was expecting Raiders meets Philip K Dick...Something with that level of intellect tied with that level of action adventure. The film wasn't nearly good enough to fulfill that promise. I give it a 6.5/10.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:26 p.m. CST
Make sure Mark Hamill is part of this as the older wiser Jedi Master
by James
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Vader didn't actually die in part 6. He managed to travel into deep space via his own personal escape pod.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:27 p.m. CST
I can understand suggesting Andrew Stanton. Maybe down the road. Not yet. He needs to be brought in line. His freedom on JC was way too much.
by reflecto
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:27 p.m. CST
Catch Me is fun but forgettable. The Terminal, ugh. WOTW is glossy fluff. Indy 4 - he shot it well, it's the story that sucks. Munich = masterpiece.
by reflecto
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It only makes sense right? What's another 3 starwars movie without Vader? They will magically/ conveniently bring back Vader somehow.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:29 p.m. CST
I laugh at these people who want those shitty novels honored. Where everyone fucking dies or becomes a villain, including Han and Leia's kids? Please, gtfo.
by reflecto
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I did recently, and my esteem of is soared.
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I remember he pitched a story to Lucas and he turned him down. I think a stand alone dark Bobba Fett film with him kicking ass hunting people like a Predator would be bad ass!!!
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It's one of the films where you really get to see that Spielberg is good with ACTORS, too, and not just with story pacing or the behind the camera stuff.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:34 p.m. CST
Overall, Episode VII lacks the MAGIC George Lucas brought to the franchise.
by GhostDad
That's gonna be the top fanboy reviewer line of 2015.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:34 p.m. CST
There is no minority report. I don't have an alternate future. I am going to kill this man.
by Brian Hopper
Really, really good movie. By far one of Spielberg's best.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:35 p.m. CST
d.vader, did you know that Spielberg (bizarrely) cut the final shot of MR
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
Which declared that after the shutdown of the justice department that crime rates throughout North America soared by 300 percent? Now THAT would have a great ending.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:35 p.m. CST
I'm sure Joss Whedon is first on Disney's go to list, by the way.
by MCVamp
Then Gore Verbinski, then Brad Bird.
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DO IT!!!!!
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I saw that film in the Theater and sat in complete shock and awe. The train sequence, the ferry sequence, the highway scene... anyone who thinks Spielberg makes movies for 8 year olds will have f#cked up kids after showing them WOTW.
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I think the characters in the Zahn triology are still compelling. The trouble is you still have Luke, Han, and Leia still walking around in those stories. There's enough there that can work, I just don't know if they'll (Kathleen Kennedy and crew) go for it.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:41 p.m. CST
Star Wars is for families...but it's for what a young director in the 70's would consider for families.
by FluffyUnbound
You know what 8 year old kids wanted to watch back then? War movies and westerns where John Wayne shot fifty guys (but it was OK because there was no gore). Godzilla movies where cities were destroyed and strange tiny girls had weird powers. Science fiction movies where Martian invaders were taking over towns with mind control. If they make a movie for that 8 year old they'll do fine.
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It was a line. That scene was never filmed to my knowledge. As for why it was cut? Sure, it give the film a dark end, something a bit more morally ambiguous. But I can't fault Spiels for wanting something a bit more upbeat in the end, something more like a fairy tale ending for the oppressed PreCogs who had their god-given rights taken away from them. It was absolutely the right decision for them to be freed; leaving that final line muddies the waters there. But trust me, I used to be with you thinking it should have been included. Last time I saw the movie, I changed my mind.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:43 p.m. CST
Lucas has given the fans what they want...finally...he has LEFT the franchise.
by rhizomeman
I actually think it takes guts to admit to yourself that your movie making days are behind you and you just want to relax. It's his life's work. But I guess he realized his best work was behind him and actually listened to some one else besides his "yes" - fuck, those behind the scenes from the prequels were sickening. Anyway, looking forward to see if Disney fucks this up or actually has some balls to let some talented writers/directors do what they want.
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I tried to talk him out of it but he wouldn't listen. Under the new contract I will be in the new movies of course. I will have a larger role this time and will not be reprising my previous role. It will be a new character.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:45 p.m. CST
What happens now? Disney finds out that nobody gives a crap
by FeralAngel
Seriously, more Star Wars movies? The hell? Why?
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:47 p.m. CST
I hope that the next trilogy sets up a larger story
by Chuck_Chuckwalla
Larger story in the same way that The Lord Of The Rings is to The Hobbit (In fact, Peter Jackson would be an obvious choice to do the new ones). But I think Disney has a golden opportunity to map out a saga that could go for decades. Look beyond the conventions of the three acts that trilogies are limited to and give us a saga that has no boundaries.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:47 p.m. CST
This is how MR should have ended
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
Anderson confronts the man that abducted and killed his son (who IS the real killer in this version and not a patsy). He is about to kill him as the pre-cog vision predicted, but at the last second he doesn't pull the trigger, painfully deciding to forgive the man and take him into custody to face justice. Ironically, because of his actions, the Government decides to shut down the Pre-Crime Department after a public outcry and protests, and release all its prisoners - because Anderson's actions have unwittingly proven that Pre-Crime doesn't work and is not a hundred percent accurate. Contrary to Farrel's character's earlier demonstration with the murder ball that Anderson caught because he knew it was going to drop to the floor, human emotions, decisions and actions are too volatile and unpredictable, and are not beholden to static physical laws. Then, the ultimate irony - a final legend on the screen informs us that the crime rates have soared since all these prisoners have been released as a result of Anderson's actions. That would have been a much cleaner, more thoughtful and less contrived ending than Spielberg's third act - where he seemed more interested in aping the Maltese Falcon and LA Confidential's noir twist and double-crosses that have been done to death, instead of the philosophical themes and blackly comic ironies of Dick's work.
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But I have a son on the way. It would be a hell of a thing to show him SW at age 3 (when it was shown to me) and have a fucking SEVENTH film to show him. Especially if, y'know, it doesn't suck ass.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:49 p.m. CST
Disney put out Avengers and Iron Man 3 with the Paramount Logo
by schlockthemonkey
I can't see why they couldnt work out a deal with Fox to use the logo for old times sake.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:49 p.m. CST
feralangel - YES, new SW movies. Why? Because we haven't gotten a good one since Empire.
by rhizomeman
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It should have ended without any sort of post-script or voice over, otherwise the same, happy ending. And then two dim frames of Anderton in his cryo-prison flicker just before "DIRECTED BY STEVEN SPIELBERG". Just to fuck with you.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:51 p.m. CST
Never mind the missing FOX logo/fanfare in future, if John William doesn't score them then they ain't Star Wars!
by Cervantes
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:52 p.m. CST
I bet Uwe Boll's phone is ringing off the chain with offers to direct.
by peter
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Are we in a world now where Return of the Jedi sucked? I've been on this earth a long time and I seem to have missed the part where Return of the Jedi made more money than EMPIRE and everyone and their mother loved the shit out of it. Was it inferior to Empire? Sure. Was it bad? GO FUCK A TREE.
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He made the prequels as a "fuck you" to the fans. He HAD to be making them bad on purpose. You won't ever convince me otherwise. Look at Crystal Skull. It was terrible and he has said it was made that way on purpose.
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...until people here start saying Disney raped their childhoods?
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:56 p.m. CST
Do You Remember When Lucas Claimed There Was A 3rd Star Wars Trilogy...
by Media Messiah
...then, he denied that he ever said that, and then stated, "Oh, it's only 2 trilogies, and was only meant to be 6 movies, and there will be no more after that"??? I always said that he was lying, and this is the proof. I don't know whether he is just smart in making the denials...for secrecy sake, or if he changed his mind several times throughout the years, and just decided to go for the money?
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Oct. 30, 2012, 10:56 p.m. CST
mcvamp...one word, Ewoks. Ewoks=bad. You know this to be true.
by rhizomeman
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But all new characters, all new adventures. Leave the Skywalker family alone. There's a lot to explore in a galaxy far, far away...
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Also, the implication is that they fucking killed and ate Imperial officers when they caught them and made percussion instruments from their heads. Subtext, buddy.
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For at least the scriptwriting, bring Lawrence Kasdan back.
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do any more Indiana Jones movies without his old buddy's involvement. Maybe it's just time to pass the whole ball of wax off to newcomers. I'd be delighted if Fincher, Jackson, Riann Johnson, Del Toro or any number of other younger directors had a shot at some of the wonderful Lucas properties.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 11:01 p.m. CST
And we WON'T be getting any good ones like Empire Strikes Back
by FeralAngel
Some of you guys have ridiculously high expectations for this latest Disney buyout. Do you really think Disney will come up with characters as good as Luke, Leia, Han and Chewie? Lucas sure as hell couldn't after the original trilogy was done. Why would Disney? The creative spirit of Walt is long gone from that company. It's no different or better now than Fox or Uni or Paramount or what's left of MGM. And for god's sake, we've had six goddamn Star Wars films. Plus a couple of lameass cartoons. The last time I enjoyed anything Star Wars-related was when Triumph the Insult Comic Dog ragged on fans lining up to see Attack of the Clones on Conan O'Brien. Funny as hell, and way better than the movie he made fun of that's for fucking sure.
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I had the same exact sickening experience watching those behind the scenes rhizomeman. Migosh Rick MaCallum just sounded brainwashed. And they kept going over the volcano lava fight scene, like how they did it totally in cgi. ugh. nauseating had a lot more fun watching the "bigatures" behind the scenes of the LOTR movies.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 11:01 p.m. CST
Minority Report is exemplary science fiction. About as
by Brian Hopper
good as it gets for a SF movie... smart with technology, a largely believable future, uses Philip K. Dick material without being slavish to it. The noir-ish reversals all fit with the movie. And it even earns its 'happy ending' (always a given with Spielberg, so deal with it) by not going overboard by returning Anderton's son to him (a pretty dark conclusion in Spielberg terms). Not a perfect film, but absolutely top-notch SF.
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LANDO'S BIG SCORE. Make it happen.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 11:02 p.m. CST
Amusing to see the retconned hate towards Return Of The Jedi still lingering...
by Jay
You can flop back to how you truly & originally felt towards the film now guys. And it sure wasn't the hate that it receives (On the Internet at least) post prequels. If you saw Jedi as a young kid, and hated it, you;re a fucking liar. So time to move on guys. It's not going to be "cool" on the Internet to hate on Star Wars for much longer. You no longer have Lucas to blame for the future of your pathetic existence (aka your online persona). Christ, even nordling is saying Hayden Christensen did just fine now. The flip-flopping has begun!!!
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That's what they said about Sean Connery as 007, and they're still cranking 'em out 50 years later. Hell, Harrison Ford wasn't even the original choice for the role! If it weren't for Magnum P.I., we would have had Tom Selleck as Indy. I love the Indy character, but Ford is too damn old to play him any more (despite his old college try in Crystal Skull).
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I would love to see a really gutsy move for director and think Andrew Dominik has proven that he can create fantastic performances from multiple characters. But Duncan Jones could also have nice potential here. Unfortunately, this is going to be more about merch than ever (which is saying a lot). The sad thing is, people will buy whatever ugly or odd character and so really, story and performance and style should all be king. Make a new classic that can stand the test of time and Disney will be off to an amazing start. What is equally insane is that they now own ILM (so VFX for all Disney films are covered), Skywalker Sound, and THX. It's a huge win. It will be very strange to miss the 20th Century Fox logo at the start (Disney was confirmed as distributor - I believe that is part of the issue with Indy as the rights are messier). I was as disappointed as anyone with Lucas' recent choices and the last trilogy, but I do think we should be taking a moment to thank the guy who ultimately brought us all here, sparked our imaginations, and gave us so many great memories. It's sad to watch someone hand over something they created - there are not many personal creators of the stories we watch anymore. For better or worse, George Lucas has been Star Wars and I think he deserves huge recognition for what that's been for all of us.
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Get Josh Holloway as Han and Leias son. Brad Bird already directed him In MI4. Old Mark Hamill playing Luke as a Jedi master is perfect, teaching his nephew the ways of the force. But, other than that a new story, not already told in the books of Jacen Solo
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What a fucking letdown after the excellence of Empire Strikes Back. It looked like filmed fanfiction. No real drama. By the numbers. Infested with stupid teddy bear people and Muppets. Rented it not long ago, and couldn't even finish it. Lucas was already starting to suck. Sad but true. It was the first indication that we'd get the prequels and Crystal Skull down the line...
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It's like trying to explain to a kid that a hamburger is good with something on it besides ketchup. Hate on, you glorious children of meh.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 11:12 p.m. CST
I'm looking forward to the rest of Adywan's Star Wars Revisited projects far more than anything I'm hearing about with this deal...
by Cervantes
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An interesting way of creating symmetry amongst the triologies would be to open 7 with Luke's deathbed (the way 3 ends with his birth) and then have the trilogy be a battle over his legacy.
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1. Steven Spielberg - has to be high on their list, though not sure he will do it. 2. Peter Jackson - he would be ideal but coming of 3 Hobbit movies, can't see it for Episode 7 but maybe 8 or 9. 3. JJ Abrams - very obvious choice, he has wanted Star Trek to be Star Wars, but coming of doing two Star Trek movies, again very doubtful for Ep 7. 4. Joss Whedon - surely too busy with the Avengers and Marvel 5. Brad Bird - I think he is a certainty for one of the 3. 6. Rian Johnson - On the rise and going to be in demand. 7. Guilermo Del Toro - hopefully he would like to be involved. Who I think will direct the 3: Episode 7 : Brad Bird Episode 8 : Guilermo Del Toro Episode 9 : JJ Abrams
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...from Kathleen that they will be recasting the roles of Luke, Leia and Han. This hasn't been announced yet. I shouldn't even be saying this... Obviously there will be a long casting process for these three roles. I'll let you know when I find out more.
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But he's already kicking ass on another Star franchise.
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Fuck yes!!
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Oct. 30, 2012, 11:23 p.m. CST
@twogunjames that could be the most retarded thing I have read on this site.
by peter
"...He made the prequels as a "fuck you" to the fans. He HAD to be making them bad on purpose.".... Seriously??? are you retarded??? In what world is ANY of what you said true, accurate, based on ANY type of fact, link to an article quoting Lucas?? in fact link to ANY article quoting anyone saying what you wrote??
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It's pretty incredible news. I, for one, would really like to know who wrote the treatment they supposedly already have for this. I hope they set it far enough in the future, a hundred years or more, so the idea of Han and others returning could be put to rest quickly. Then you could have Luke show up in a supporting role as a man who has used the Force to unnaturally prolong his life and is constantly walking the thinnest of lines between light and dark. Would love it to center around new characters strong in the Force but untrained and being seduced by the Dark Side. And we could see a Sith school on Korriban and even have action on Nar Shadaa (home of the Hutts.) As for directors, I'm not sure Spielberg would automatically turn this down. He would obviously love to delve into sci-fi again. But, for my money, Verbinsky is the best choice.
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And I wonder what this means for the 3D re-releases next year.
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I will direct this for $50,000 British pounds. There will be no CGI outside of space battles and removing boom mikes and whatnot. Basically, it's an eco-horror film about the destruction of Endor's eco-system. For the "JEDI" haters up above, good news: Lots of slow, painfully shot Ewok deaths. What I envision is CHILDREN OF MEN with Wicket in the Clive Owen role.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 11:31 p.m. CST
Clone Wars is shit, TOR is shit, TFU was shit, these new movies will be shit
by Larry_Sanders
Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 11:31 p.m. CST
Why not go back to the 1977 Star Wars universe and make new films about that?
by TheBigFuckinLebowski
Some stories must have happenned between Star Wars and Empire... Vader looking for the rebels on distant planets, dispatching bounty hunters and shit... No need to have Luke, Leia, Han and Chewie, but other rebels played by newcomers... Please... No novel adaptation, or characters created outside of the Movie Star Wars Universe... Create all new ones. If I'm going to see some new Star Wars movies, I want them to be close to the universe we've known in the first three movies, but also be fresh, with new stories we have no clue where they're going... Time to make things right...
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I wouldn't be opposed to a pre-EMPIRE Boba Fett movie where he's essentially a "Man With No Name"-type establishing himself as the galaxy's greatest bounty hunter in the shadow of his father.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 11:34 p.m. CST
Which wasn't exactly what you meant, but it would completely avoid the events of 1-6
by MCVamp
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Someone should hire the dude who won the AICN screenplay contest a few years back and wrote the scene where they are melting old ships to make star destroyers and that's why they are on the lava planet. That script was fantastic, creative, and felt like Star Wars. That should be a fan campaign of Peter-Cullen-voicing-a-terrible-update-on-his-character proportions.
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Do it!
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Actually Dark Horse did it. It stanked.
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Did you seriously write that? He creates Star Wars - virtually every detail of it and people love it so much that they grow up and hate him for it. Lucasfilm, to this point, has not been and never was a major film studio like Paramount, Warners or Disney. It wasn't diversified into TV and radio networks and it's own publishing company etc. It has always leveraged its asset to continue to make money and be viable. I can be sheepish about something as dumb as that XBOX game up there but saying Lucas personally signed off on it as some kind of evidence of him personally dismissing your affection or his creation is just juvenile. I've never understood why people can't sidestep stuff they don't like - as if Elvis sucks because someone likes Velvet Elivis' or Vegas Elvis cookie jars. And now he is, in his own lifetime, choosing the path for the continuation of his creation (and making the money he wants to doing so) instead of having it raided and exploited in a manner not of his choosing. He fully acknowledges the desire to hand it over to a new generation of filmmakers and is doing it in a structured way that shows he still cares a lot about what he created. He wants it to endure. But by all means throw him under the bus internet...again. FFS.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 11:41 p.m. CST
I remember seeing it for the first time in 1977, and having my life changed
by MagicJesus
Me too, so why the crack about the new director must felate Empire? The first film is the alpha and omega...
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Star Wars - George Lucas = Can't possibly be worse.
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Hands down, best story to start with. All the old characters can come back. Problem solved.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 11:44 p.m. CST
You're mentally deluded and seriously cerebrally disturbed if your truly believe that Ben Affleck could or even should be anywhere near the Star Wars franchise....
by Bricklyne
Certain people should be nowhere near any lists being mentioned as potential candidates to direct any future Star Wars movies. In addition to Affleck above (along with his buddy Damon), keep these people as far away as humanly possible from Star wars: - JJ Abrams - Damon Lindelof (sp?) - Orci and Kurtzman *(between them the above have already raped and destroyed 4 childhood favorites and franchises ranging from Alien, Star Trek, Transformers, and Mission Impossible, with, I'm sure, More to come) - Ratner (obviously) - Nolan (not that he's bad - but let's face it, a "dark", "gritty" Star Wars will NEVER happen now that the Mouse House owns them. It's the same reason you'll never see a dark gritty Avengers or Marvel tier one character movie. Besides which, the Warners would never let him do a Disney/Star Wars movie anyway) -The Bay (self-explanatory) -Burton (no thanks, but I don't need to see a Jedi Johnny Depp or a Sith Helena Bonham Carter) Which would leave the likes of :- - Spielberg (unlikely since he's rumored not to get along too well with the Mouse House. Regardless, his buddy Lucas could be persuaded to smooth things over between them). - Cameron (Geek wet-dream but HIGHLY unlikely as Fox would want to tie him up to keep him close to home to firm up their Avatar franchise. Still, what I'd give to see a James Cameron-directed Star Wars) - Brad Bird ( Most likely as he's worked with Pixar and seems to fit into the Mouse House family friendly mold. And besides which he didn't do too badly in his first live-action outing in Mission Impossible 4) - Neill Blompkampf (UBER-geek wetdream. After the arboted Halo movie, you just know a good large scale Sci-Fi epic is in Neill's future and indeed is his calling. Second only to Cameron of the director who's Star Wars movie I'd love to see. Just like his mentor.....) - Peter Jackson (Is already buddies with the Beards, but despite the fact that his own current franchise is coming to an end, I doubt he'd want to dip his quill into another large expansive sci-fi/fantasy project so soon. So maybe his buddy and outside bet...) -Guilllermo Del Torro (again doubtful but would be an interesting choice for a "darker" middle sequel ala Empire strikes back. His only drawback is that his style suggests he's probably far too dark for the Mouse House's liking. Still, if Lucas has enough say even as creative consultant and really likes him, I don't really see why not. -Kochinsky (Already in the Mouse House working on their TRon franchise, already tackling another Sci-Fi epic in Oblivion, all of which suggest that he'd be the most likely go-to guy and "cheap" option like a poorer man's version of Blomkampf, but right in Disney's wheel house of perfect director.) Whedon's NOT gonna happen. At least not for any of the earlier movies. He's locked down for Avengers and possibly writing duties on the other stand-alone movies, but there's always a chance he could be "borrowed" to script a treatment for a screenplay for one of the sequels or tweak them a bit.
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.........fukin a man, honestly thought Lucas would take this to his grave.....MAD PROPS to Lucas for have the balls and the best fuckin decision he's made since 1984
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Finally, someone who realizes Empire isn't the be-all, end-all of Star Wars.
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There will be some interesting changes. The lack of the 20th Century Fox logo is a minor one, but what about John William's involvement? Will he stay on and will Star Wars ever be the same without him?
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Hehe <cough>Chanel<cough>
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Woo-hoo! I'm going to Disney World!
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Oct. 30, 2012, 11:47 p.m. CST
Also, AICN, get off your lazy asses and do some reporting for crying out loud.
by Bricklyne
Bryan Singer just officially returned to the Franchise that made him famous in the X-Men series, as director of Days of Futures Past. Maybe not as big news as Lucas flogging off the Star Wars universe for a cool $4 Billion, but once upon a time, news about a Superhero franchise getting back the director who made it big and famous used to be "cool news" around these here parts.
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Oct. 30, 2012, 11:48 p.m. CST
Whether the new episodes are good or not the magic WILL be gone
by darthvedder81
Love or hate George and some of his decisions, but a part of what made Ep.1-6 special is the simple fact that these are essentially independent movies coming from one man's brain. That can be both good and bad but in my mind it's been almost all good and has contributed to a big part of what gives the saga it's soul. It was wise of GL to bring in Kathleen Kennedy. They've worked together for years and she obviously cares about respecting GL's vision for Star Wars. Still the fact that all future Star Wars productions will be run by a slew of writers/producers/directors and yes, executives, really changes things. It doesn't necessarily mean everything they do will be bad it just won't ever be the same.
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I would bet anything that Michael Giacchino would be tapped to work his usual deal where he listens really close to other people's work then spits out a close, but legally different, approximation.
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Like his father before him, gets corrupted by absolute power.
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Give it to Andrew Stanton. He was criticized for John Carter being too much like Star Wars... so let him do Star Wars. I'm sure he's learned more about doing live action since making JC. (A movie which I loved, BTW.)
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NORDLING- how can you not appreciate the scope of A NEW HOPE?? You, sir, are not a true star wars fan if you said EMPIRE STRIKES BACK is the best of the trilogy "without hesitation"....seriously???? A NEW HOPE created the fukin star wars universe with so many possibilities that makes our minds go trough the fukin washer just thinking about it!! You need to seriously get your shit straight from a true fan......
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The folks at Disney are pretty smart. They'll put a little bit of what everyone wants in them. They won't be offensive to anyone. They'll even be slightly touching at times. But will they bring back the magic? No, not for the fans who have lived through the prequels. We're all sick of Star Wars now. For for the younger generation, they might just moderately reach them. Who knows. I think most of why the younger generation still goes for Star Wars is because they know it once meant something to the adults. To make Star Wars genuinely appealing to the youth is going to be harder than it seems. They need to return to the psuedo-religion of The Force. This is what originally enraptured people with the OT, and was sorely lacking in the prequels. If you ask me, they need to not tell a similar story to the OT. People don't want a "here we go again" feeling. Different types of characters with different arks-- but ones we actually care about. RELATABLE characters (target audience will be kids/teens, so there you go). And not afraid to include small stories. Star Wars was supposed to be episodic, and not the story of "the empire" but of characters. The real question is- does anyone behind this WANT to make a new Star Wars? If not, it will just suck. (By suck I mean, for me. By "decent", I meant like the new Star Trek or POTC - soulless, but temporarily engaging. More than the prequels were.) Aw heck, I don't know how they're going to pull this off. Really, so many people are pissed at Star Wars that people just might not go. The real show has been seeing GL juggle our beloved OT, and now that's over with. They will almost certainly have the "ghosts" of old characters to tie it over. The old characters will have religious/legendary status, which is a little ridiculous, but that's what they're going to do.
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.... that they recast the original characters. They are interested in brand and longevity. They want to make a new Star Wars film every 1-3 years. New Characters are risky, but re-casting the originals allows them to make 10 films with Luke, Han, and Leia AND Darth Vader. They don't care too much about old fans (ie: us), they are building for a new generation - they younger ones who saw the prequels when they were 6 and now they could pick right up with those characters in new movies. It may not be their first move, but I think it'll eventually happen. I can also sell them the Star Wars Episode 7 story I wrote in 2nd grade. It's gold!
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And will also "bet" that the unwritten clause of the contract is that they won't remake Eps 1-6 until Lucas dies, but THOSE WILL HAPPEN.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 12:01 a.m. CST
Kennedy & Iger know what's at stake. They know that the fans felt burnt by the prequels. At least, they better know. Cuz, if 7 sucks...
by AzulTool
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After the boatload of cash he brought Disney with the Avengers, Joss Whedon has to be at the top of the list. I would love to see Dark Empire. I would love to see Michael Jai "Black Dynamite" White as Lando.
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Then kills himself, a sacrifice to end war and remove the religion/power of JEDI forever.
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Agreed! I did think the same. Matt Reeves could be great. While a re-make, Let Me In had great performances and was well-directed.
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Milla Jovovich as any character he can show horn her into.
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Just look at the Town and Argo.
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His directing is tied up with Avengers, but he should be able to allocate some to writing.
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He will be shooting additional material for Hobbit next summer, then post production. For SW7 to be ready by 2015, they will have to start filming no later than next fall (Oct.-Nov) and can carry into 2014.
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I know he's good with dialogue, but I'm just not sure if I'm ready to see Summer Glau as a mysterious Jedi prodigy who slays 13 Sith Lords at once.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 12:13 a.m. CST
Does that mean past Star Wars films will be locked away in the Disney vault, oh shit
by 77AD
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Oct. 31, 2012, 12:13 a.m. CST
No more 20th Century Fox fanfare at the start? It won't be the same.
by Tristan
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...who doesn't have any midichlorians to speak of...but still becomes a Jedi...because of DESTINY. It would show that the midichlorians are something different altogether from the Force...and that the Force can decide something that seems otherwise predetermined.
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Who recalls, last year, when George Lucas told Seth Rogen he believed in 2012? Went on a 20 minute serious tirade about it then a few days later, through a spokesperson, says it was a joke? Hmmmmm. Why'd you sell Star Wars, George? Wait. Don't answer that. Just tell us if you needed $4 Billion to finish your bunker, your Ark or your spaceship.
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Attitude...look...and humor. Of course, he sort of played Han Solo on FIREFLY.
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How will they fit him into this tentpole?
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That is all.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 12:25 a.m. CST
Here's an example of how to avoid the "here we go again" feeling
by Jared Bond
Okay, so the main character's probably going to be a young boy/teen, who's going to encounter a lightsaber for the first time. If they have it like an old Jedi mentor introducing it to him, people are going to be like "oh great, this is supposed to be the next Luke Skywalker". To make it different, what if the lightsaber is introduced in a different way-- like, the kid sees a lightsaber being used by a Jedi warrior, and then later gets it somehow, (maybe the Jedi Warrior dies), and has to try to use it for the first time trying to defend his family from attackers or something. See what this does? It takes away this automatic REVERENCE we're all supposed to have for classic Star Wars elements, and shows us someone seeing it through fresh eyes. That's the kind of thing I would do with this. Real characters, whom we can actually relate to, are just trying to live their lives. Then they get caught up in this empire and religious stuff along the way, and maybe even end up saving everyone.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 12:26 a.m. CST
The past is the past and the future...always in motion it is.
by Jobacca
This is a whole new day for Star Wars. For those hoping for the extended universe to make it to the screen....forget it. These are going to be all new stories about all new characters. The EU has we have known it will cease to exist...and in return,we may just wind up with something better. Imagine the live-action Star Wars show going into production....movies that take place beyond JEDI...and Indiana Jones animated series on Disney XD....Disney Studios WILL become Star Wars land(and the Animal Kingdom is becoming AVATARD land as well). The possibilities are endless,and the only guarantee is what we get will be nothing we expect.For those of you who have bitched and moaned about the "raping of your childhoods"(a truly despicable term,BTW) and those who are going to be enraged if the last 20 years worth of shitty novels arent adapted word for word....well,your world just got a whole lot worse. For the rest of us...the future looks bright. The Force WILL Be With Us...Always.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 12:28 a.m. CST
http://starwarsblog.starwars.com/index.php/2012/10/30/the-long-winding-and-shapeshifting-trail-to-episodes-vii-viii-ix/
by Chris Moody
VERY INTERESTING!
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Or JJ Abrams
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To the consolidation of companies in the US. It's fucking creepy how few major power structures will soon exist. And the little guys will find it harder and harder to compete. This isn't OLD REPUBLIC news. This is EVIL EMPIRE news. WAKE UP, tools.
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Now get the fuck out
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Disney can't fuck it up more than Lucas did.
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I wonder if Lucas still believes the world is going to end in a few months? Haha, sucker.
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...that he'll use to get to the set every day. Keep wishing, Kev.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 12:40 a.m. CST
http://starwarsblog.starwars.com/index.php/2012/10/30/the-long-winding-and-shapeshifting-trail-to-episodes-vii-viii-ix/
by Chris Moody
INTERESTING TIDBITS: 1. The next trilogy (VII, VIII and IX) take place 20 years after RETURN OF THE JEDI. 2. Mark Hamill would have an Obi-Wan Kenobi (circa Episode IV) type of role in order to "pass the lightsaber" so to speak. 3. The new trilogy concerns what happens to Luke after RETURN OF THE JEDI. 4. Is much more "ethereal" that the other two trilogies. 5. The Empire is destroyed...but the Sith were apart from and bigger than the Empire. 6. Two years will pass between Episodes 7, 8 and 9. GOOD STUFF!!!
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Oct. 31, 2012, 12:42 a.m. CST
drpain: Sorry but Tron Legacy was a huge stinking pile of shit
by D o o d
but JJ is a good choice
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Will Chewbacca still get crushed by a planet?
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OMG, these are just movies, it's not like we're talking about banks or anything.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 12:51 a.m. CST
[Random popular director] would be PERFECT for this! Sign me up right now!
by Baked
And while we're at it, can we get a retelling of the totally [adjective] [insert convoluted EU plot] here because that was my favorite when I was 10!!!
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Oct. 31, 2012, 12:54 a.m. CST
Grand Admiral Thrawn is a meaty role and ought to command a demand from actors ala any of the major Batman villains.
by Still_A_Lostie
There, I said it.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 12:54 a.m. CST
Episode 1-3 weren't fucking magic. They were a cash grab fanfiction written by the original writer.
by Baked
And, yes, original writers can write fanfiction. Take established characters, insert implausible Mary/Marty Sue bullshit, add in a heaping dollop of "Where the fuck did that come from" and you have Episodes 1-3 of Star Wars. Don't suckle the tip of that cock just because it's the one you showed up to the dance with. It's crusty and limp and it's not doing anything good for anybody.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 12:56 a.m. CST
The Prequel Trilogy got the journey to the darkside all wrong..
by SlickyVonBoner
I want to see a star wars movie that really shows how the lust for power and the lure of the darkside starts to twist the mind of a pure and innocent person. Episode III made it seem like a choice for Anakin.. "I'll join the darkside to save Padme.. ok. Now I can kill my friends and innocent children." The darkside should feel like a drug.. something that at first you know is wrong.. but feels so good. Then as you begin to embrace it, the overwhelming power starts to twist the mind into believing even hideous acts are reasonable. Christopher Nolan would be perfect for writing this. As a director.. I don't know. Someone with comfortable with visual effects but not too showy. Like Jon Favereau.. but not him.
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I can't possibly see why you'd dislike the new one. Unless your love is based on nostalgia. It was a very good sequel with some very interesting ideas. And if you didn't like the original Tron, why the fuck are watching the sequel?
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While I would love a Thrawn Trilogy a lot of what came after isn't that good (except I did hear that the series where Chewbacca dies is actually good) But things have gotten too messy. Now I could see it happening where a director whos a fan of EU would pick and choose things and characters that really worked and adapting it to whatever movie they are working on, but a straight adaptation will never happen.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 1:02 a.m. CST
@slickyvonboner - totally agree, that was really the CENTRAL thing wrong with the prequels
by Jared Bond
Lucas is no psychologist
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also, Spielberg to direct one of the 3 films! It's just gotta happen. :) Here's hoping Disney decide to put out the OT on bluray in original form too! ...and they can always put the disney logo before the fox logo (which WILL remain in, as they will continue to distribute) so the Fox/lucasfilm/long time ago.../SW logo/crawl build-up we know and love will stay as it always has been.
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I love the original Tron, this is why I hate the new one. Tron Legacy didn't have the complexity in the story or even the attempt at risking technological advancement in ideas or the effects. They couldn't even get Clue right. Anyway, I digress, I for one am happy that George is leaving. No matter who makes the next Star Wars movie, they cannot do a worse job than the horrible prequels.
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My take is that Thrawn is like Franco or Castro- not a psychopath like Hitler or Stalin, but still a dictator. And that's what SW and fantasy movies need, a little bit of gray area. I was watching "Immortals" the other day for the first time, wondering the whole time how on earth a nutjob like Rourke's character could possibly amount a following that he had... even bad guys have to have enough charisma to lead their own men. The age of the "100% pure bad guy" should be over by now. That's part of what makes Thrawn so great.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 1:14 a.m. CST
I have no doubt JJ Abrams and Damon Lindelof have either already called Lucas or are planning to tomorrow.
by Still_A_Lostie
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Haha, I remember the Hoojibs too! Never had the book, though, just the story tape that came with it. That dragon thing always scared me.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 1:16 a.m. CST
They hire great writers, great directors, hire unknown actors, ignore Zahn books
by skoolbus
and somehow give 20th Century Fox a tiny cut so they can still use the opening fanfare.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 1:16 a.m. CST
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tangled-rights-could-tie-up-384541
by tom_quinn
Interesting.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 1:23 a.m. CST
so i thought lucas was never going ro do 7 8 .lying neckbeard
by ads913
I am sure i read here that he would never do a 7 8 9. He flatley denied ever conceiving the idea .also one of his pre co produducers might be kirshner said he had scripts etc in th e90s.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 1:23 a.m. CST
This is a kind of fun go through director wishlist tangent here.
by Sean
The new helmer, or helmers would have to be VERY specific choices, with undoubtable visual skill. Obviously, that will probably remove a lot of left field options...most TV directors, sorry to say as there may be some with the potential, but i think they will go with someone quite established. This should also immediately count out your Wisemans, McG's, Rathers, Bolls, Andersons, Cohens and such. For such obvious reasons. I don't see Bay getting the gig, nor would i want him to. When disciplined and reigned in (The Rock) the man can fucking direct, but since then...well, enough said. Funny too is that i have about a good 100 directors i admire and draw inspiration from but it doesn't mean their style and sensibility would fit. So as much as i love them, count out the likes of Carnahan, Woo, Rodriguez, McTiernan (I know he's in jail but...whatever), DePalma (ha! his initial thoughts of Star Wars were NOT kind anyway) and lots of other guys. Cameron would be the BEST choice but he's got Avatar. Not happening. Jackson...maybe. But i predict he'll give himself a year off after Hobbit's finished. Big job! Del Toro...possibly. I've honestly never liked his output BUT from what i hear of Pacific Rim, I may get to eat my words if it is what my imagination thinks it could be. Speilberg...would be awesome, but he seems fairly booked up and i feel his friendship with Lucas might be to back away. Tarantino...love the guy...still would love to see him do Bond but i can't get my head round him doing a sci fi, i just don't see it. I imagine the suits would feel the same. Anyway, Tarantino plods along at his own pace, seemingly too wrapped up in his own creative projects. Nolan...don't see it. Especially as he has Bond possibly up for grabs in the future. He's been dying to do one of those. Aren't we all? Bird...I'm as big an Iron Giant fan as anyone and loved The Incredibles. But while solid, MI4 didn't blow me away, certainly not for visual spectacle and action. The Wachowski's? If someone else was writing...maybe, but they've had too many flops. Verbinski i feel is as anonymous as a director as Ratner and co. Nothing distinctive, just pedestrian crap. I HATE Pirates and never got past the first. What about Zemeckis?? Personally i would love to see Fincher do it as he has yet to put his balls right out there on a BIG project. And there is enough dark, serious stuff for him to play with. I'm sure there are more people but i can't think of many much more except... The new generation: Duncan Jones? Think he needs to prove himself some more. Gareth Evans, shows huge talent...but he's concentrating on lower budget martial arts films for now. Josh Trank? I know he's connected to Fantastic 4, but i think this guy is a huge up and comer. Honestly...my money is pretty much on Neill Blomkamp (who is fucking amazing) or Joseph Kosinski (just as visionary and has Disney ties) Those 2 are my predictions. Whoever gets the gig has a lot of expectation riding on them. I would say good luck, have faith (it is a BIG TASK) and also have fun in arguably the GREATEST sandbox anyone could play around in in pop culture history.
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And thumbs up on the Fassbender-as-Thrawn casting.
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A universe far far away is not going to be big enough, and the canon/continuity guy at Lucasfilms is going to need some staff hired for his department.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 1:27 a.m. CST
Hey Harry, remember when you said you'd be more present and accountable on this site?
by FuckinAmateurMan
If you don't show up after this, I don't know man. AICN is dead, long live Star Wars?
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The Disney guy DID make mention that the SW Galaxy now has 17,000 characters... Why would he mention that if they were going to completely rule out any use of the EU? My guess is that these so-called Episodes 7-9 will follow the traditional formula. After that, when filmmakers start to explore the nooks and crannies of the universe, sans Lucas, sans John Williams, sans the methodical editing techniques and opening scrolls and end credit blue typeface, etc., there might be some who are interested in visiting Luke and Leia and Han Solo as they were when they were young. The possibilities are endless.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 1:30 a.m. CST
interesting article on the path to 7-9 on star wars.com
by FuckinAmateurMan
http://starwarsblog.starwars.com/index.php/2012/10/30/the-long-winding-and-shapeshifting-trail-to-episodes-vii-viii-ix/
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At long last, with Disney taking over, there is finally a glimmer of hope that the original Star Wars trilogy might finally be released unedited, unaltered but cleaned up and fully restored (picture and sound) in DVD and blu ray! Disney, don't do us fans wrong! This is something most true star wars fans have been waiting for, but always denied by the vain and greedy sith lord Lucas. Fuck Jedi rocks and that shit rainforest music ending... I want to heard that fucking ewok yub yub song again like how we originally heard it when we first saw Jedi on the big screen.
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This a fresh start back to reality for me.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 1:43 a.m. CST
Exactly WHY does everyone think this is so awesome? Have any of you seen a Disney movie lately?
by Ironhelix
Disney's been dead longer than Star Wars. This means nothing.
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The Marvel movies are Disney movies.
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What I would love would be one-off, non-numbered, movies in this universe. The only one I'd like as a continuation of 1-6 would be a very old Han grumping his way around the Galaxy.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 1:45 a.m. CST
iron helix, sometimes someone says something so ridiculously stupid that there are no adequate words to respond with.
by FuckinAmateurMan
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Like John Carter! LOLZ
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What if Pixar got involved somehow??
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Those took place about 5 years after Jedi...the cast is wayyyy too fucking old to pull those stories off. Mark Hamill WILL be back,but he'll be playing the old man Obi-Wan role this time around passing the torch. Carrie Fisher may come back,but....she's a long way past her prime as well(maybe she'll be the elder statesman/Mon Mothma leader of the New Republic). No way in hell Harrison Ford comes back for this. His entire career has been about distancing himself form those movies,and I REALLY dont see him ending his career where it began(although dump trucks full of money are a hell of a thing). Anthony Daniels can still record the voice for C-3PO....Peter Mayhew is a hell of a guy,but he's had health problems and is probably too old to wear the fur suit on a regular basis. Most of the original cast will probably only cameo...also doubt they'll go the SW Babies route and give us the adventures of Luke's kid and the Solo kids....these are going to be all new adventures with all new characters that they can milk for DECADES yet to come....maybe if we're lucky we'll see Nathan Fillion as a smuggler,but he aint gonna be Han Solo Jr.(or Jacen...yes I know the kids fucking name).
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Oct. 31, 2012, 2:01 a.m. CST
Step 1: Cast aside every bit of the 'expanded universe', every last bit of it, that came after Jedi.
by kevred
Start fresh, with the original films as the only guide.
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I have no clue where this is going. On one hand I'm glad someone snatched it out of Lucas hands. On the other will they ask Gary Kurtz if wants to be a consultant also? The last great Star Wars Film involved both of them. Kurtz had the dark vision while Lucas knew how to please the crowd. One without the other has never been the same. Maybe a new generation of filmmakers will become the new Kurtz and Lucas. My guess is the prequels made enough money that we'll never really see the dark side of Star Wars again. Get ready for a new generation of Ewoks.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 2:03 a.m. CST
Step 2: Ignore as much as possible from the prequels & Clone Wars shows.
by kevred
Again, use the original films as the guide. You don't have to go against what happened in the prequels; just sort of don't pick up any threads or new characters from the prequels. Clone Wars is cute in spots, but not worth turning into the basis for anything.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 2:07 a.m. CST
Step 3: Pretend it's 1985 and you're trying to figure out what to do with Star Wars next.
by kevred
Not as in, 'be retro', but take yourselves outside of a time when all of this ancillary junk had built up around the franchise. When the ideas and speculation around where the stories could go were more connected to, say, legitimate sci-fi than today's video-game and bad-fan-fiction culture. In short, make a film that's out of its time, as the original films were. A film that's so deep in its own universe that the purity of the result compels all of pop culture to follow it, instead of it following pop culture. For all of their scope, the prequels felt small, as though there was such a narrow range of possibilities. The OT, on the other hand, always felt much bigger than what was shown on screen. One of the many reasons everyone fell in love with it.
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Dispite the missteps you did so many great and wonderful things with the original trilogy, Indiana Jones, Willow, (even the not perfect prequels were enjoyable) and all of the other awesome movies that you inspired me with. Plus all of the great technical achevements with making an X-Wing fly through space like a plane would and other things like it, the seeds of Pixar, ILM and many other great things that you did. I can't wait to see what others will do with you creations!
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While Pirates 1 was good, the rest of the series was not great. Story and character development took a back seat to sfx and action. That's not what SW needs. He seems like more of a hired gun, not interested in being involved at all levels. I'll bet he's Disney's top choice, but we'll see what K. Kennedy has to say about it. I think Jackson, Bird or even Mendes (if Skyfall is as good as i am hearing) Bird seems the most likely though. I'd say bring back the original actors as cameos but with critical involvement in the storyline...Han as the grizzled general, Leia as a Senator, Luke as the Obi Wan character to provide continuity. I also think they should give it the Avengers treatment...do 2 or 3 stand alones to introduce new characters - 1 movie focusing on the Rogue smuggler character, 1 focusing on the Jedi etc to develop back story then bring them all together for a big story every 3rd movie or so.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 2:22 a.m. CST
Hey, Nordling, I'm waiting on your "In defense of the Star Wars prequels"!
by The Comrade
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Oct. 31, 2012, 2:25 a.m. CST
Disney to acquire Weta. Simarillon trilogy scheduled for 2015
by Gorgomel
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He won't let me do one,... I understand why— Star Wars is George's baby. It's his cottage industry and it's his fingerprints. He knows I've got Jurassic Park and Raiders of the Lost Ark. But George has Star Wars, and I don't think he feels inclined to share any of it with me. —Steven Spielberg, Slate Magazine (June 14, 2005) Would Disney be more inclined to share?
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Oct. 31, 2012, 2:29 a.m. CST
I want a new Star Wars movie that starts a geek revolt. One that is so good that it plunges all of geekdom in a massive war, old vs new. Yeah, I REALLY WANT THAT!!
by BrannigansLaw
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I really wish they wouldn't pursue a storyline with Luke, the twins, etc. They should pursue an alt storyline within the same universe. There's a lot of potential. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjKYlfxJIl4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ToztqqDcaY
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...give the new films a dark "Empire Strikes Back" feel to them.
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I love him, but I'd like to see a young, hungry director bring some magic. Spielberg's output has been uneven as of late. I think the original trilogy and Spielberg's early movies were so brilliant because they were young and hungry and still had that edge.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 2:39 a.m. CST
For a lighter feel... I'd consider... Matthew Vaughn... John Madden... Robert Schwentke.
by SunTzu77
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Oct. 31, 2012, 2:40 a.m. CST
Ep3: VII - A New Hulk. Having smashed robot space dragons Hulk now searches out asteroid dwelling and deep sea dragons for random smashings. Teams up with Jarjar Binks
by Reelheed
Cap with lightsaber style shield. Does the lightning indicate that Thor is a Sith lord? Ironman vs Boba Fett TO THE NARROWLY ESCAPED DEATH. All these things are now a possibility.
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Episode 7: Spielberg* (Yeah I said it..) Episode 8: Guillermo Del Toro Episode 9: Sam Raimi I would also mention James Cameron, but he is probably tied Up with Avatar the next 20 years.. *: Spielberg has the perfect eye for this material, as well as the insight of the material. Now that Lucas is no longer in charge, Steven is not obligated to follow his crazy whims.. "Star Wars Episode VII - Directed by Steven Spielberg" That headline alone, willmake it the most profitable movie of all time.. Oh yeah, make Hugh Jackman and Chris Hemsworth the leads and this thing writes itself...
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Oct. 31, 2012, 2:45 a.m. CST
John Madden? Really? Did something about Shakespeare in Love and The Debt scream Star Wars to you?
by john
Or are you just trying to throw out obscure names no one's yet mentioned? If so, +1 for the guy who directed Radio.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 2:48 a.m. CST
@renetabard Drama is drama. "The Debt" was a solid and smart thriller dealing with the Mossad.
by SunTzu77
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Oct. 31, 2012, 2:50 a.m. CST
@renetabard - I'm just curious - did you enjor Thor? It didn't have your typical action / adventure director at the helm.
by SunTzu77
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It speaks to the strength of the franchise that despite the horrible prequels I am still excited for the opportunity to see new Star Wars movies. Now I just pray that Disney does not go Indy 4 and have all the original characters actors show up and hand over the story to their kids. I would much rather see Disney create their on story and characters set in the same fantastic universe. However that seams very unlikely and I fully expect C3P0 and R2D2 to have new cheesy roles in these movies along side Taylor Kitsch as Luke Jr, Chris Hemsworth as Han Jr and Idris Elba as Lando Jr.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 2:53 a.m. CST
But, let's all be realistic... I bet Damon Lindelof is courting this project. Such a disaster if it happens.
by SunTzu77
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Oct. 31, 2012, 2:57 a.m. CST
THIS IS GOOD NEWS. BUT DISNEY WOULD BARF IN HIS GRAVE IF HE HEARD THE LANGUAGE OF THIS VIDEO PRESENTATION. WORDS LIKE FRANCHISE, CONTENT, ACQUISITIONS, GROWTH STRATEGY. THEY SHOULD'VE DONE A PRESENTATION DESIGNED TO EXCITE FANS. NOT THIS CORPORATE BULLSHI
by Wacky Packages
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Oct. 31, 2012, 2:57 a.m. CST
THIS IS GOOD NEWS. BUT DISNEY WOULD BARF IN HIS GRAVE IF HE HEARD THE LANGUAGE OF THIS VIDEO PRESENTATION. WORDS LIKE FRANCHISE, CONTENT, ACQUISITIONS, GROWTH STRATEGY. THEY SHOULD'VE DONE A PRESENTATION DESIGNED TO EXCITE FANS. NOT THIS CORPORATE BULLSHI
by Wacky Packages
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Oct. 31, 2012, 2:58 a.m. CST
THIS IS GOOD NEWS. BUT DISNEY WOULD BARF IN HIS GRAVE IF HE HEARD THE LANGUAGE OF THIS VIDEO PRESENTATION. WORDS LIKE FRANCHISE, CONTENT, ACQUISITIONS, GROWTH STRATEGY. THEY SHOULD'VE DONE A PRESENTATION DESIGNED TO EXCITE FANS. NOT THIS CORPORATE BULLSHI
by Wacky Packages
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goo.gl/st7FT
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Mark Hamill @HamillHimself Congratulations to George for today's mega-deal! Can't comment on Ep 7 before I have all the facts which are short supply right now-Patience
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No five golden tickets hidden in packages of kenner products?! No tour of Skywalker Ranch for five lucky people?! Whoever is left because they didn't steal any props is left the company?! I call bullshit!
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Oct. 31, 2012, 3:04 a.m. CST
Keanu Reeves will play Skywalker's son, Larry Fishburne Han Solo's long-lost brother, and Carrie-Anne Moss Princess Leia's ex-lover. Hugo Weaving stars as the emperor's uncle.
by The Comrade
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Oct. 31, 2012, 3:14 a.m. CST
dasinfogod - Well Lucas did let Spielberg direct the fight between Kenobi and Anakin
by Paul
Also Scorsesse directed the Opera scene so that quote isn't totally true.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 3:16 a.m. CST
Personally I wouldn't mind the use of Luke or Han/Leias children being the next Generation
by Paul
There needs to be some sort of connection to the original trilogy.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 3:36 a.m. CST
Why on Earth does it have to feature the children of the main characters?
by batfunk
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Oct. 31, 2012, 3:36 a.m. CST
Why on Earth does it have to feature the children of the main characters?
by batfunk
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I think hes the only one to really give the movie we want. I think Disney should get him to write and direct it But I also think disney should let other directors play around with the star wars universe in some way if not the movies like Kevin Smith, David Lynch and Tim Burton
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Star Wars is back and Star Wars will be better than ever. Had there been an announcement for a new Star Wars movie (Episode 7) with Lucas at the helm, I would have been excited, but yet, disappointed that he was continuing to be the guy controlling the Star Wars universe. Anything with a "but" in is sad, because the potential that exists if there wasn't a "but". However, today we got the best of both worlds. There will be a new Star Wars movie (Episode 7) and Lucas isn't going to be the main person behind it. No "but" in that statement. Instead we get remarkable news with a "and", giving us even better news. It's like somebody asking, "Do you want the good news or the great news?" No bad news to report. For those of you without the vision or even the care of what a new Star Wars movie will bring, I don't blame you. The Galaxy has fallen and sometimes it is hard to get it back upright again. No worries, just wait a few more years when the first trailer hits and something completely different is thrown at you and suddenly you are thinking this might be the movie you've always wanted to see, being Star Wars or not. That is what we are in store for and today was the first day of, "A New Hope." -Hollywood Pulse
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Is he still planning to make smaller, experimental movies like he said he would? I keep thinking about what Francis Ford Coppola said, about how the world has been denied many movies from George Lucas because he spent so much time on Star Wars.
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Variety reports that, while Fincher waits for a draft of the The Girl Who Played with Fire script, Disney has put a three-month hold on the filmmaker... The project hasn’t been given the official ‘go-ahead’ yet, but Disney asked Fincher to hold off on pursuing other projects in the meantime.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 4:08 a.m. CST
So, George takes his billions and punches into hyperspace...
by Darkness
Disney can create fresh and new ideas from the galaxy far, far away, or continue the Skywalker family saga - although i'd prefer the former. As an earlier post iterated on the absence of the Fox logo, which has become an iconic insignia of our entrance into the series: it will be surreal at first, but the Disney logo is just as iconic. As for the music: There will obviously be another composer adapting or creating a new musical palette for any future episodes. The likelihood of John Williams returning is zero. In the end, this could be a wise move for Disney, or the biggest gaffe ever to emerge from the house of mouse...You really don't want to fuck off "Star Wars" fans; look what happened to George - and he created the bloody thing!
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Oct. 31, 2012, 4:17 a.m. CST
The directors under consideration (my guess): Joseph Kosinski, Andrew Stanton and Joe Johnston
by Prof. Pop-Cult
That's because these three have directed recent features for Disney (or in the case of Johnston, Marvel, now owned by Disney). I'm betting any one of them, or all three, are in serious contention to direct at least one of the movies in the sequel trilogy. We have to consider that maybe one reason Lucas sold to Disney is that he likes the studio's stable of directors and writers who are currently signed to them, or have close relations with them. Additionally, I could see Gore Verbinski recruited to help executive-produce/oversee the trilogy.
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You couldn't be more wrong.
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The guy was given 4 BILLION dollars for a product that he has squeezed as much as he could from in terms of revenue from all the games/toys and books etc not only the crappy prequels. Christ if somone offered me 4 Billion I would have done it too. So please stop with all the thank yous.
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The ones Zahn written at the end of the Bantam run set 20yrs after RTJ where Pelleon the guy in charge is trying to make peace and save the remenants of the Empire .
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Oct. 31, 2012, 4:23 a.m. CST
Keep Hamill, John Williams and maybe Ford/Fisher. DO NOT bring back the droids or Chewie - sorry, but it was already stretching it having them in the prequels.
by Mark Jones
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Oct. 31, 2012, 4:26 a.m. CST
The 20th Century Fox logo might remain if they keep the distribution deal with them.
by albert comin
Disney does a lot of shared distribution deals with other studios. they do a lot of such partnerships with paramount, so why not remain the deal that LucasFilm had with Fox? Sounds reasonable to me.
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Could do a whole harry potter type deal with Luke as headmaster teaching the solo kids, as well as others the ways of the force
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Oct. 31, 2012, 4:33 a.m. CST
As for who will the directors of SW movies to be, i expect either the top major hacks or jorneyman that are easy to be controled by the studio
by albert comin
Forget about top tier talent, forget the best directors working today in Holywood, forget the Nolans, the Finchers, the Spielbergs, no, they will not be the onbes making the new Sw movies. Expect the usual hacks like Bay, McG, Ratner, Abrams and guys like them, all those who proclaim that SW made them to persue careers in filmmaking and, more importantly, who have a lot of political connections and can do a lot of backstage politicking (the reason they have careers to begin with). Alternatively, the movies will go to middle tier directors the kind who are averagely talented and easy to control by the studio. Expect Sw to be a product now. no longer the vision of a single man, for good or worst, but to be a comité comissioned product who will be made at the whims of the fashion of the time and of commerce necessities. If it was so today, it will be hundredfold so from now on. You think the dance game above is silly made under the George Lucas aegis, expect much worst to come now that's in the hands of the big mouse.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 4:36 a.m. CST
Joe Johnston and Gore Verbinski as directors of new SW movies is a good choice. But i fear they might get overruled by more ruthless powerplayers.
by albert comin
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Verbinksi, Johnson and Bird are ideal choices, if you ask me. Let's hope this guys have enough game in them to overcome the assault from all the hack fucks who are now sucking Disney's cock to be the ones putting their spoon on the sweet SW franchise honey pot.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 4:44 a.m. CST
Can`t believe people still believe there`s life in this corspe of a franchise.
by higgledyhiggles
Fanboying at it`s most needlessly hopeful. Get over it. It`s a dead duck. You want more Jar Jar Binks ? You need to be stopped.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 4:45 a.m. CST
Star Wars was a COMPLETE STORY. It ws done with the original trilogy
by L. Ron Bumquist
all this is money for old rope and done solely for greed. Will we ever return to a time when films get made because someone has a story they want to tell that they believe in? Not until audiences start demanding better.
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Unexpected news. Good for Lucas, good for Disney and good for the fans. Personally I would prefer new stories from the Universe rather than an extension of the Skywalker story. Lucas has spent much of his life surrounded by Star Wars and he would not have expected that when he wrote the story over 35 years ago. Selling it off and stepping away is the perfect way to draw a line under it for him. Disney is smart enough to know that a long, lucrative future is guaranteed as long as they make a quality product (and Star Wars is a product, the same as any other mega successful film, it becomes bigger than it's origin and the property of it's fan, for good and bad). Good luck Disney and thanks George for creating the universe.
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No such thing happened when JJ Abrams fucked up the Star Trek continuity, so, as Michael Bay says, chill. In fact, i'm almost wishing that they do to SW what Abrams did with ST, so that the fans might get a bit of a taste of what it feels to fuck up an established franchise for the sake of easy commercialism.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 5 a.m. CST
I'm expecting the anouncement that Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof were hired to write the next SW movies anytime soon.
by albert comin
Holywood being Holywood, this is to be expected almost with the same certainty as gravity.
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That's what some 'wise' Disney marketing exec will prob re-title the franchise to make up for how much they lost using that word on Carter!
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Oct. 31, 2012, 5:30 a.m. CST
Pretty much gangbanged "star wars" to death at this point..
by seansarto
it's like a scene from "The City of Life and Death"
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Oct. 31, 2012, 5:32 a.m. CST
Anyone think this is Lucas taking his ball and going home? ...and selling said ball to Disney?
by tangcameo
Whether or not this will be good for the SW Universe, does anyone else get the feeling this is Lucas' big "fuck this shit! I'm retiring!" to the prequel haters in some way? My greatest hope is that now the future makers of Star Wars stories can question and improve on some of Lucas' prequel-related decisions (JJB, the ethnic accents, you know the rest) instead of having to go along with everything (you're NEXT Stephen King and James Cameron!). My worst fear is that they'll rubber stamp every SW project idea that comes along just to get themselves out of all their financial holes. eg 'The NEW Star Wars Christmas Special' or a Marvel Star Wars crossover (like Marvel/ST:TNG) or a Muppet Star Wars parody. Actually, I claim co-creator dibs on that Star Wars Muppet parody. Kermit as Luke! Gonzo as Darth! Fozzie as Chewie! Or did they already do that on the Muppet Show?
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Oct. 31, 2012, 5:33 a.m. CST
Let's see the ewoks rise up against the rebellion after realizing they were duped into dying for their cause by technology (C-3PO acting as a symbol for "the power of storytelling" or filmmaking)
by seansarto
Once the ewoks harnass the technology for themselves..they'll see things different.
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Is the only choice.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 5:36 a.m. CST
Personally I'd love to see Wetas take on the FX, creatures and sets for these new movies
by KiwiMetal
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Oct. 31, 2012, 5:56 a.m. CST
First thing they should do is drop a SHITLOAD of money on Lawrence Kasdan's lap
by Ricardo
And say "WRITE IT". One good director for the next movies? You know what? Bring Spielberg in. Why not?
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Set before the events of a New Hope. Darth Vader could be in it, perhaps a stray old Jedi Knight...
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Already a great storyline. Get a badass actor like Gary Oldman to play Grand Admiral Thrawn. Only problem would be we couldn't have the original actors play Luke, Han, Leia, if they do decide to adapt that story. Heir to the Empire takes place immediately after the battle of Endor so it's not like they could flash forward 30 yrs or so and show an old Luke played by Mark Hammill. I'm excited as fuck that Lucas won't get to write/direct the new movies with such shitty dialog . Considering that Joss Whedon has done some great work for Disney with The Avengers... why not give him a crack at this. Hell even J.J Abrams has said before he's a huge Star Wars fans first and foremost, and even though I'm not a Trek fan I really enjoyed his take on that universe.
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Hmmmm, evil regime intent on universal domination, only 1 backward planet stands in their way - Earth. time to suit up Tony! Disney must be fapping like there's no tomorrow!
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Oct. 31, 2012, 6:17 a.m. CST
Star Wars The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance Would be Epic Movie
by bauerpowerhour24
Anything in the Darth Bane Series would be Epic i mean Disney can do the kids stuff they want to make. Still Make some of the Stuff The Adults Want and Need to see on the Big Screen there is so much out there to play with. BANE needs to come to the big Screen it could be its own Stand Alone Trilogy i mean think and Dream Big Cant Wait to see all this unfold Dan Kirkman Bellingham Wa
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I don't see Disney taking a pass on that. Of course, he'd likely be a clone (e.g. Clone Wars).
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Just think, we're about 2 years away from seeing a teaser/trailer for star wars 7.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 6:43 a.m. CST
wingkong85. No droids?! in Star Wars?! Are you fucking kidding me?!
by adeceasedfan
All droids all the time. Yep, Droid Wars.
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Real fans will not wish ill to their favorite franchise, yet you all praise the move.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 6:46 a.m. CST
I won't read this article. What the news means to Nordling is not what it means to us.
by Fries Against
The guy lives in a delusional fantasy land where the Matrix Trilogy is anti war art. His head is so far up his ass he can look out through his belly button.
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As do all of my close friends... this "let down" bullshit is just that- all in your self-centered BB brains. As for the Droids, they don't age, so why not?
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Gotta be an improvement. Now we just need Steven Spielberg to make a decent Indiana Jones on his own. That franchise only needs one beard!
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Huh? Where? No further story potential? Obviously you don't know anything about the material... Plenty of stories to tell away from the SKywalker clan.... climb off your holier-than-thou high horses, fat-geeks....enjoy the ride as it begins NOW!
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with the buildup and act as though your Lord and Savior will come through the movie screen and bless your basement-dwelling lives.... Just ask for a good movie.... that's enough, really.
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ET was released in it's original form on Bluray, you fucking moron...way to be up to date, Mr Retro.... Idiot.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 7:23 a.m. CST
Abrams & Co haters: Star Trek 2009 was better than the last 4 Star Wars movies.
by Gary Makin
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But seriously. Someone please photoshop Rick McCallum's face onto Meatloaf's head.
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turned into a businessman instead of a creator.
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There. New protagonist.
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The games may have been goo and mediocre but the original story was good and it means fan faves can be in it like Vader. As for The Clone Wars, leave the guys to it, they've done an awesome job, its an amazing series, so if it aint broke, then don't fix it! This show just keeps getting better and better, plus the animation is brilliant. As for Indy, I reckon they should go the way of Bond and just bring in a new actor and continue the series during the 30's and 40's, no reboot needed. Oh and no CGI needed either! Do the stuff for real like the originals, real stunt men, doing real stunts and only use CGI sparingly for minor effects and clean up. I also think this move is down to how Lucas has seen all the shit about him and its actually hit him hard and made him think.
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Imagine it. Lucas could have thrown this in there without affecting the original trilogy, and keep it in his back pocket should he ever want to re-visit the saga. Emperor takes the third child, hides him/her away and we never see him/her again until this new bunch of movies. For some reason, the first time I saw ESB, I never thought Yoda was talking about Leia when he said "there is another." By the way, the expanded universe books suck, and the poor fans who invested money and time in them will swan dive off skyscrapers when they realize they are not canon.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 7:59 a.m. CST
Maybe Yoda layed a bunch of eggs on Dagobah or some shit
by TheUmpireStrokesBach
A whole army of Yoda's and shit on a rampage taking out walkers and brawling with Ewoks and Jawas on the streets of Coruscant. It practically writes itself.
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also Darth Maul with mechanical legs, and RESTRAIN from introducing a new kid that will grow through the series. Instead just have a great story. And you can have R2 in a big role, but there would be no reason to give C3P0 a role any bigger than what Jar Jar had in Episode 2 and 3.
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BOOSH
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Oct. 31, 2012, 8:07 a.m. CST
Peter Weir with Russel Crowe as captain of a rebel battle frigate caught in a nebula with a French star destroyer would be enough for a whole movie
by UltraTron
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Oct. 31, 2012, 8:10 a.m. CST
I want a brand new take with no Skywalker family. Give me a fresh story that doesn't 'match' up to anything.
by UltraTron
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Not too bothered about this news. What's of more concern is how much Disney have now monopolised various franchises and movies.
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Your enthusiasm is super, but can you think past this week's Pop Culture darlings? In your Paragraph where you are throwing out director names , have you even noticed you are just Parroting the latest hot director's list ? Who was it last week ? Jeez You have Ben Affleck there. Sure Argo is a GOOD movie , but really. Before their FALL last week, you would have had the Wachowski's on their. Just try to respond beyond the latest 5 minutes' Twitter feed will Ya?
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After the Battle of Endor, Logray was exposed as a coward and a bully. Chirpa ousted Logray, appointing Paploo in his place.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 8:29 a.m. CST
And now a few words for Lucas.. Quitter! You have failed yourself and all of us. You never grew. You stagnated. You need to limit your saturated fat intake and
by UltraTron
get a trainer. You need a new groove. This is life and you are in the maelstrom and capable of directing the currents of reality. Hopefully you'll find a new spark to flame. Now go get your fucking shine box.
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When Disney turns this into Twilight you guys will be pining for the days of Lucas.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 8:29 a.m. CST
KILL STAR WARS RIGHT NOW WITH A GUN AND NEVER MAKE ANOTHER MOVIE OUT OF IT AGAIN FOR THE REST OF TIME EVER.
by Stephen
this is how i feel.
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Now that's a Star Wars hater right there. Only somebody with pure hatred for SW could say such a thing.
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line up and gobble down your slop like good drones. I stopped caring about StarWars after Lucas ruined everything with those bullshit special editions and the first 2 prequels. This is a franchise with 2 great films and 4 bad ones...it cannot be saved. BTW,Darabont was considered for writting and directing the first prequel,but Lucas ego just had to fuck everything up.
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It was a clone. Episode VII will start out with a crawl that reads: EPISODE VII THE ENCROACHING EVIL After the destruction of the DEATH STAR, the rebels attempted to rebuild the galaxy with justice and freedom for all. LUKE SKYWALKER rebuilt the JEDI ORDER on the moon of YAVIN, far away from the politics of CORUSCANT. The rebuilders of the galaxy were unaware that it was EMPEROR PALPATINE's clone that was killed at the battle of ENDOR and the true EMPEROR has plotted his return for the last generation. PALPATINE's plans have been set in motion with attacks on the OUTER RIM. His evil will soon be revealed to the peaceful members of the GALAXY who must stop him at all costs...
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Only a question of time. If Disney had smart lawyers theyd make it a contractual obligation for Lucas not to ever claim these aren't 'real' star wars movies. Because that WILL happen.
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Then it can only go worst from here. If even the creator of the thing can be so detatched from his own creation, it will go trice for executives who see it as a cashcow ready to be exploited even futher. At least was the man who made it and knew what he wanted to do with it, for good or worst. The notion that desinterested executives will be the saviors of SW is not only delusional but naive. I see nothing butdark clouds for this franchise. Prepare to have it "Transformers-fied".
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Oct. 31, 2012, 8:45 a.m. CST
THRAWN!!!!! And Old Luke and keep Shia Lebouf Far away!!!!
by scrapplejoe
please
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Believe it, it will happen. And then the geeks will do a turn and blame themselves for being so needlessly harsh on the prequels. The prequels never got the same lighting in a bottle magic that the original trilogy had (except Return Of The Jedi, that movie looks worst and worst by the year), but they are not the abomination the geeks make them out to be. Well, maybe The Phantom Menace, there's a good argument for that. But the point is, the geeks are singing hossanas and freedom at last because SW is now at the hands of a profit-oriented corporation, a corporation obsessed with a family oriented image that certainly will put very harsh conditions and limitations to what can be made into the new SW movies to be. The very happy geeks are really not thinking this through, they are so caught up with this news and their anti-Lucas bigotry they are failing to see a bigger picture. I hope their optimism is justified, but i wouldn't bet my chips on that. To quote Han Solo, i have a (very) bad feeling about this.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST
And god forbid the new SW movies end up in the hands of fanboys, because they will turn into a pile up of self-referencial wankery.
by albert comin
I see this doomed either way. Hope to be proved wrong, but.... naaaah!
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He is OBVIOUSLY writting it
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Well, if you don't know, I'll happily fill you in: Disney will merchandise the living fuck out of both STAR WARS and the "Indiana Jones" brand, and starting 2015, we'll either get a fucked-up reboot of both series or we'll get some fucked-up sequels with seventy-year-old Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford cameos. In short: meet the new boss, same as the old boss.</p><p> There's only two not-terrible things to come out of this news. One, no more George Lucas personally fucking everything up. The next batch of STAR WARS whatevers won't be prequel-bad, just lousy movie bad. Maybe three RETURN OF THE JEDIs. Sad to say that's a high watermark, but it is. They'll have for-real screenwriters and for-real directors and the resulting movies will only be as awful as studio interference makes them. By 2015, this isn't even gonna be an issue, since audiences already wouldn't know a good movie if it raped them at knifepoint, but the four or five of you who will still care at that point can be consoled by the fact that they could always have been (George Lucas) worse.</p><p> Two: we might see the unaltered original trilogy in a high quality format. I said "MIGHT". Lucas has so far prohibited AFI (an organization he's actually a member of!) from getting their hands on a pristine print of the unaltered original trilogy, so I'm on the fence on whether or not this means Disney gets to. If so, great. If not, does it ultimately matter at this point?</p><p> I get the odd feeling that this whole thing boils down to Lucas figuring he couldn't win as a filmmaker. Sure, everything but RED TAILS made money in the last few years, but the critical and online response to his efforts have been pretty horrific. Maybe he figured that, if he couldn't make great movies anymore, he could at least make a lot of fucking money from getting rid of it, like some white collar dad who finally realizes he's a lousy guitar player and nobody likes his weekend Van Halen cover band, so he sells off his $15,000 LPC and his $20,000 Marshall stack and buys a muscle car.</p><p> Another question: doesn't anybody else think it's weird that DISNEY got Lucasfilm, and not, say, DREAMWORKS?!? I get that Dreamworks probably couldn't offer four billion, but Lucas just sold a company his pal Spielberg arguably helped build, and Spielberg's former producer is now running. to the direct competitors of Spielberg's production/distribution company.
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Just lock it away in the Disney Vault and disown it. Forever.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 9:06 a.m. CST
With Disney forking out that much money, expect cutbacks/layoffs among the staffs of both companies.
by jawsfan
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What happens now is that in 2015 we get: • Star Wars Episode VII • Avengers II • Justice League • Amazing Spider-Man II And then our heads explode.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 9:07 a.m. CST
Anything that gets GL further away from total creative control, the better.
by jawsfan
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Oct. 31, 2012, 9:12 a.m. CST
Remarkably we're all completely reset to 1977 when we had absolutely no idea what starwars would be and had no expectation for it. I won't be
by UltraTron
anticipating anything until the next movie pulls ultimate redemption out and flagellates us over the head with it.
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Love them or hate them, It's time to start investing large amounts of money in Disney. No brainer.
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Leia And The Tramp Snow White And The Seven Jawas Mary Palpatine Winnie The Poodoo Anakin In Wonderland The Lightsabre In The Stone The Jango Book One Of Our Rancors Is Missing Honey, I Blew Up The Death Star
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Oct. 31, 2012, 9:24 a.m. CST
All bitching aside, this is truly fantastic news. MORE STAR WARS FILMS!! So stoked right now.
by peter
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It was beyond laughable the number, size and frequency of gigantic logic plot-holes and flat out stupid things in that movie, and was essentially made to appeal to low-intelligence viewers (this much was admitted by the writers later on). At least X3 for all its faults and problems, could always claim to have Sirs Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan, if nothing else. Jar Jar Abrams attempted to make a Star Wars movie out of Star Trek and ended up with the worst mixture of the prequels and all the bad sci-fi effects filled movies of the last 30 years. And Lensflares. Lots of pointless Lensflares. He should be kept as far away from this next series of movies if Disney have any sense and they do.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 9:44 a.m. CST
I sold my soul and first bourn to SATAN for another SW film,and well goodbye son.See you later
by frank
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Is actually quite messy and doesn't really have much of that "oomph" that's needed.
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I doubt he makes this deal if Red Tails wasn't a flop. He just can't make good movies outside of Star Wars and American Graffiti (unless you count Indy). Part of me is sad to see George go, but the Prequels were just a major let down other then being excited to see Star Wars back on the big screen. Looking forward to seeing where they go from here, although I am afraid they will beat this cash cow to death and ruin all my childhood fond memories just like Transformers and GI Joe etc.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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JJ Abrams, M Night and Tim Burton = most over rated fanboy favorite hacks making total shit today.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 9:58 a.m. CST
george lucas had to sell. he has all those skywalker ranch george lucas clone mouths to feed.
by iampain
its not always about what a bunch of fanboys want.
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Regardless of your feelings about the prequels, this is not cool news. SW was the last major franchise owned and controlled by the artist who created it. Now it's just another corporate product. The sequel trilogy may turn out good if they pick the right people (I'm sure Whedon is kicking himself that he's already locked into TA2, but he could work on Ep 8 or 9) but this is the end of SW as we know it. Disney has $4 billion to recoup (which they should do with box office and merchandising for the first two films alone) and they will keep making SW films until they run it into the ground like the Pirates franchise.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 10:22 a.m. CST
Let it follow the books of the expanded universe...audiences will catch on.
by Jodo_Kast
See subject.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 10:42 a.m. CST
@scirocco, good point - what made the original films so great is that they WEREN'T made by 'fanboys'
by kevred
They were made by real professionals of film who were all, Lucas included, out of their element. People with histories of doing work completely unlike this, drafted in to work on something new and different. It gave the material a richness and maturity that was completely lacking in the genre to that time (2001 excepted). If we have hordes of fanboys in the industry piling into these new films, it will not possess the same magic. It may not be a stretch to say the same benefits can be seen with the Marvel films. They are largely made by and starring people from outside the genre. Kenneth Branagh, anyone? British drama is all the rage now. Could Disney possibly go back to the well and make this film with teams outside of the usual suspects? Practical effects, matte paintings, and English soundstages and actors? Why not? Hope they realize the only reason their new property has all that value is because of the foundation built by those non-fanboy people. Reconnect to that tradition of craftsmanship, Disney, and success will follow.
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cuz I couldn't give two shits about more StarWars flicks or that Disney now owns the property...seriously Lucas fucked the pooch so badly with the prequels I just don't bother with this tired crap. Sometimes you grow up and move on with your life and wanna watch something with more substance.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 11 a.m. CST
Wow, that Han Solo dancing thing is on par with the Holiday Special
by I_Snake_Plissken
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kevred, that would be the dream scenario to ditch the greenscreen photoshop aesthetic of the prequels and go back to something more tangible and touchable. To be fair the PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN movies did an awful lot of practical work so there is hope. Ditto for PROMETHEUS. It makes sense on a financial level too. PROMETHEUS boasted the largest sets ever created on a soundstage and came in at only $130 million budget. Contrast that with CG-heavy GREEN LANTERN which cost $200 million but visually looked a poor relation to Ridleys movie. For the lived in universe of STAR WARS... is it too much to the dream of the VII - IX trilogy going back to basics and back to practical? I live in optimism that the best is yet to come for the STAR WARS SAGA!!!!
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It's not like Vader will start breakdancing with Ewoks on a tacky stage in Orlando...Ohwait...
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The next trilogy is simple. We follow the droids. The droids get split between Han and Leia’s twins. The twins are finishing their training at the hands of Jedi grand Master Luke Skywalker and Master Leia Solo. One of the twins get’s 3PO and moves along the path of the light. The other get’s R2 and get’s seduced by the dark side. All the while the twins and what other Jedi’s that have been trained are tasked with helping to maintain order in a Galaxy without and Empire still rebuilding in the aftermath of Palpatine. The dark twin will enlist the Camino cloners to create and army of dark jedi over the course of the films and a new clone war will ensue. This can easily stretch over three movies and the final battle will be the twins finally coming together one last time to finish each other off. Both droids will ultimately be destroyed as their 9 film arc comes to an end. The winner of the final battle will set the tone for the universe going forward.
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there's the whole other empire of middle-earth in New Zeland, Peter Jackson's empire. And Jackson still got the Hobbit stamina. Probably not never thinking about retiring unless the Hobbit trilogy is long done. With the Hobbit series set to release, potentially a billion more in revenue. Plus you have Time Warner and MGM signed on. Maybe Lucas tipped off Jackson early about his Disney deal, so Jackson could easily suggest to Time Warner the three movie deal. It makes more sense. The only way the future of these two competing franchises could be disrupted is if the Tolkien estate decides to sell the Silmarillion rights and ancillary works to Disney for more $!
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Oct. 31, 2012, 12:09 p.m. CST
What happens now? Jiminy Cricket will fuck an Ewok and produce of crock of shit
by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes
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It seems like everyone has the same ideas for directors - Verbinski & Bird. Good choices, but why hasn't anyone talked about Cuaron and del Toro? It is generally agreed that Cuaron made the best HP and can handle big scale, big budget, keep his voice and work within an existing universe. He can get that "lived in" feel of the SW universe and bring some character development. del Toro would go nuts with the creature designs. He may like to come up with his own stuff, but he would tinker with whatever script they have in a good way. The only question is whether or not he would be interested in joining someone else's playground. It's SW - hell yes!
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Oct. 31, 2012, 12:15 p.m. CST
Jiminy Cricket will fuck an Ewok and produce a Qwok of shit
by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes
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A shadows of the empire movie made by pixar with all of the original actors doing the voice work would be awesome!!
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Ciaren Hinds. He made a great Julius Caesar he'd be great for Thrawn too!
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When you ask people what the best villain of all time was, what do they tell you? Most of them will say Darth Vader. Star Wars paved the way for a lot of the movies we have today. Just look at what they accomplished with nothing. They created a franchised that will forever be remembered. I think that Disney has a good chance. They have in the past been able to come up with great characters. They have a chance that could really define the company further. I do not believe that they will blow it, on the first one. I think that they will pull their sources and try and make a really good movie. Now what happens afterwards is the question.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 12:44 p.m. CST
Hehehe...Hayden Christenson "did fine" in the prequels...?
by Darth Macchio
He's a good actor, actually, as can be seen from other stuff he's done but Lucas has a poisonous touch that somehow removes talent and ability like a vacuum from highly talented actors (Natalie Portman and Ewan McGregor) to even decently talented actors (Christenson). So, truth be told, it's not all his fault but Christenson was indeed terrible in the prequel trilogy. And my AICN name is a direct criticism on his character mushed up with Daniel Laruso's (Ralph Macchio) whiny antics from Karate Kid 2 & 3 (especially part 3 - it's an almost identical rant to "Annie's" rant in part 2, both whiny bitchy main characters whine and moan...Obiwan is jealous and controlling and so is Mr. Miyagi!). And yet these "whiny, bitchy" characters are supposed to be badasses? One of which would become one of the silver-screen's all-time great villains? In a word, NO. But I think this bodes well...Disney has been good to Marvel thus far (and I was worried they wouldn't) and will likely do the same with SW, if not at first they will eventually if it does well. Whedon's billion dollar BO goes a long way towards keeping the mousehouse suit&tie's out of the creative meetings and the same would happen if we got some good SW flicks. And no, no need to pull in the old OT actors. Too much time has passed and too much food has been eaten. But if we do go with the same characters from epis 4-7, then I think they should absolutely go with the Thrawn Trilogy - and get Zahn to participate if not write the script too.
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he'd have to be like some ridiculous combo of Orson Welles, Christopher Lee and Tony Todd
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What can I say? In 1978, a 9-year-old sat in front of a big screen and became addicted to Star Wars. I was there again in 1980 and 1983, and it gave me those wonderful shivers. Star Wars was my religion. Then, 1999 came, and I was hit into the balls. In 2002, I was hit again, not as hard as in 1999, but it wasn't nice. 2005 - well, I survived it. With the prequels and Indy IV, with Clone Wars on a kid's channel, and a Star Wars comedy series in the making, I was sure: George lost it. His mojo was gone. I imagined sequels done by the likes of Chris Nolan, David Fincher, Alex Proyas, and I knew they would put the dark drama back into Star Wars, if only George decided to give it up. And now it happened, and I am stoked again, excited like the little kid back in the 70s and 80s. Thanks, George, you were a master back then. Even for $4 billion, it must be hard to pass the torch, but you did the right thing. Give the new guys a plot, but please no screenplay. Give them ideas, but don't force your vision on them. And then, I am convinced, we will see Star Wars back on the big screen with moments like Vader telling Luke that he is his father. Nolan, Provas, Fincher, or Bryan Singer (X-Men 2 is still one of the best movies based on comic books ever made) could make Star Wars BIG. Disney, don't give those episodes to Rob Cohen, or Brett Ratner. Go for the win, ask Nolan or one of the other good directors. Pay what they want, and earn HUGE.
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Those are excellent examples of what can be done with more tangible/touchable effects & settings. We all know that tons of model work was done in the prequels, but we also all know that those films felt so unreal and icy - detached. With the OT, you really felt like you were fully in all the environments. Your nod to "lived in" is vital - we're back in the rough-around-the-edges times; even 20 years after the OT, everything wouldn't be back to the shiny age of the prequels, and probably never would be again.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 1:03 p.m. CST
" Hayden Christensen did fine"??? Uh...no. No he did not.
by FleshMachine
He was terrible.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 1:05 p.m. CST
Can't use Thrawn. He existed a few years after Jedi...they will never get Ford or Fisher...and Hamill is too old. it will be set 25 years after jedi.
by FleshMachine
luke will be like ben. which is cool.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 1:06 p.m. CST
As long as they shoot some REAL MODELS AND LESS GODDAMN CGI!! a well shot model look real...the best CGI does not.
by FleshMachine
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Oct. 31, 2012, 1:08 p.m. CST
Totally..it has to be back to basics....make smaller films with real sets and real masks and real models. then we'll be in the universe again...instead of just sort of ..looking at it.
by FleshMachine
like a video game
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Oct. 31, 2012, 1:08 p.m. CST
ANd subtitle the aliens!!!!! no more aliens speaking english!!
by FleshMachine
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Consider Thrawn ERASED as soon as these new movies come out, along with all the other expanded universe stories that you've paid for and happen to like. All that existing continuity is gonna disappear. And don't expect Harrison Ford or Carrie Fisher or Mark Hamill. You're not gonna get John Williams. You're gonna get Shia Lebouf and Diminishing-Returns Giachinno, with a script by Orci and Kurtzmann. You're gonna get Star Trek 09, and most of you assholes are gonna eat it up with a spoon. "Yay! The fuckers who thought Bambi 2 and Snow White 2 and Pocahontas 2 and Lion King 2, 3, 4 and Aladdin 5, 6, 7 and The Haunted Mansion and Inspector Gadget starring Matthew Broderick were good ideas are gonna make new Star Wars! Yay!"
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Hayden was all wrong. I never thought they should have introduced anakin as a kid. It served no purpose. They should have introduced him as a cocky hot shot pilot who discovers his force abilities with Obi-Wan's help. If you listen to the dialogue in the orginial movie, Obi Wan says "your father was already an accomplished pilot when I met him". I am pretty sure the original intent was not that he was a 6 year old pod racer. He should have cast a Harrison Ford type actor. And yes the whining was the worst part of the prequels. I used to imagine what Anakin was like when I was a kid, and I can assure you I didn't envision a whiny punk. So it's not Hayden's fault he sucked its GL's.
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Right you are.
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YES YES YES! SETS! PRACTICAL EFFECTS! The CGI in the prequels looked terrible and made them feel fake and plastic. Hell you look at the Matte paintings in the originals, and the result is 100% more real looking then all the fancy CGI they used in the prequels.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 1:24 p.m. CST
the only way for new SW movies to work is to completely distance them from the original plot
by Stephen
make movies about people in space and include the force and lightsabers and themes about good and evil. don't mention anything else from the other movies.
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If for no other reason than to piss off all the dickless simpletons who post on this site. Make it so...
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We'll see if anyone takes the bait! Personally, I think a future with quality Star Wars *and* Star Trek films and TV shows sounds great. Hoping that's what comes to pass. Also hoping for one heck of an awesome Ender's Game film. Apart from all the analysis of Card and his politics (and I don't even recognize the guy now spewing bile as the compassionate soul who wrote those older books), that is one story that deserves to be in the cinematic pantheon.
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Why such loyalty to actors? Why does it HAVE to be Harrison Ford, Mark Hamil, and Carrie Fisher? Should we tap David Prowse's kids, if he had any, for Vader or should we just go with a post 30'ies Hayden Christenson? No, we won't get any of the previous actors and that's probably a good thing. In some cases, a demonstrably GREAT thing I'd add. Of course, depending on how casting goes and if they use the continuing story of these same characters from the OT, whether or not it actually is a good thing will have to remain to be seen. What I do think we could say - if Lucas kept Lucasarts and had decided to do epis 7-9 himself, we'd be getting a 100% cgi "young" version of Ford, Fisher, Williams, and Hamil (ala Xmen3) with the actors doing voiceovers in a mixed practical/cgi environment instead of recasting these iconic roles with human beings.
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Brain fart. Fell down some stairs. But the rest still stands...without vader!
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would be the director "attached."
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Oct. 31, 2012, 1:41 p.m. CST
@adeceasedfan: I just meant no C3PO or R2D2. I'd like to see a sinister droid like 88 from the first Jedi Knight game.
by Mark Jones
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Are you kidding? He is the 3rd worst thing to ever happen to Star Wars after Jake Lloyd and Lucas as Writer/Director of the Prequels. Or even the idea of doing Prequels. That he is now in Jedi is the biggest blight on the entire Star Wars universe.
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But Lucas being out of the mix (other than creative consultations) is GOOD news. Sad that we all wish for the man who brought us this universe to step aside, but frankly, he really soured me on the SW brand. I actually hate SW now. Hate the sabers, hate the jedi/sith, hate it all. It's all basically soulless crap. BUT... I'm HOPING (please please please) this could mean we may eventually get a theatrical OT release on Blu. It might not be for a couple years, or more, but there's always hope now. With Lucas at the helm, that hope didn't exist. So, I'm happy about that. If the new SW movies are helmed by people who actually care about making a good films, then I might eb able to get back onboard. But for now, SW is still dead to me. Go Disney. I'm rooting for you guys. Let's make SW good again!
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on Blu-Ray, just get it over and done with already, cut the bullshit.
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As excited as I am to see what this deal brings the franchises future, a part of me is a little sad that Lucas has let go of this, it's definitely the end of an era. i have my problems with the prequels as much as anyone, but regardless he's contributed an awful lot to the craft of cinema, I can't shake the feeling watching the video of him and Kathleen, that the decision to do this is one of defeat at the hands of all the criticism he's endured over the last 15 or so years.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 3:16 p.m. CST
why would disney not take kindly to lucas's involvement in any way
by Thunderbolt Ross
It's helpful to keep in mind that the prequels made tons of money. Disney did not shell out $4B to "make it up to the true fans". As usual, these movies will be made for the 99% not the 1%.
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Basically everything that has made big bank the last decade. Count Avengers and Dark Knight in that too.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 3:24 p.m. CST
I love Star Wars! But including Return of the Jedi & Onward it all sucked terribly and Lucas is awful and I'm much happier with it in the hands of a publicly traded multinational corporation!
by Al
You people confuse me as to what exactly constitutes a win.
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Actually, I would pay to see that movie twice in a row, never mind. Seriously, I would love to watch that film.
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I was just being unnecessarily overly dramatic.
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So where's Harry? Big news here and he's nowhere to be seen! Someone check on him he could be pinned under a memorabilia cart.
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Jabba's palace, epic space battle, speeder bike chase, some furry things, Emperor's throne room, final duel. It's great!
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No matter what you may think about Lucas (and around here that seems to be largely "That fat bastard raped my childhood with a Tauntaun tail and I can't forgive him for it! Ever!"), his surrendering control of the fiefdom (I'm not sure if "empire" applies, since he was just bought out by a legitimate media empire, but hey) he built and controlled across the better part of four decades...that's an unquestionably colossal deal in some circles. It's the end of a period we'll certainly never see again, unless Peter Jackson somehow convinces Saul Zaentz Corleone-style to sell him all media rights to 'The Hobbit.' And in that way, yeah, it is kind of sad.
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Search your feelings, you know it's true....
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Oct. 31, 2012, 3:49 p.m. CST
i'm torn by this....i mean he turned to the darkside. why not leave it to Kathleen Kennedy just long enough for his kids to inherit it? now it's just another notch on Disney's belt.
by NorthTronic
i think they're just a little too powerful now...just a little.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 4:01 p.m. CST
George was talking about this whole thing… ‘Um, how’d you like to be in Episode IX?’
by clarntoon
Mark Hamill recalled in 2004, speaking of their conversation in 1976. “Twelve movies! Out on the desert, any time between setups… lots of free time. And George was talking about this whole thing… ‘Um, how’d you like to be in Episode IX?’ ‘When is that going to be?’ ‘2011.’ […] I said, ‘Well, what do you want me to do?’ He said, ‘You’ll just be like a cameo. You’ll be like Obi-Wan handing the lightsaber down to the next new hope.’”
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According to Disney, EP7 will be an 'original story'.
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How about Luke is the elder Jedi master at a new Jedi Academy, the first since the days of the Republic which hes set up on Yavin in a remote, lush jungle. He spends his days overseeing things and helping the the other Jedi masters teach while they groom the best and brightest. Meanwhile, Leia and Han have had three kids Jaina and Jacen and Anakin (from the books) Jacen comes to Yavin on a business operation and calls up his Uncle Luke. Hes played by Josh Holloway and is very muchlike the smirking smuggler Han was. However Luke soon finds that Jacen is more powerful in the force than any of the Academy's Padawans and sets forward training him much like Obi Wan but with much resitantance from Jacen. Meanwhile, theres also some kind of threat that is happening that causes Luke And Jacen to embark on an adventure together at the end of Episode 7. Unlike with Obi Wan, Luke doesnt die but gets the last thrill of an adventure. Sets up Episode 8, Jacens own story where he meets up with his sister, to take down the growing threat of a new Empire (or something else entirely)
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Oct. 31, 2012, 5:09 p.m. CST
How about - it starts with Han and Chewie visiting Kashyyk to celebrate Life Day
by HoLottaMo
and then some bullshit with chewies kid - Leia sings a song, her tit pops out and Han goes fucking nuts - yeah and mel Gibson can direct
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Who gives a shit how many versions are released on Blu-ray? All that matters is that Spielberg got old and had a moment when he actually sat down and decided that E fucking T was too violent and needed to be altered to make it appropriate for children. The fact that he had that thought process makes him unreliable, to me, in any situation where he might decide he's making a movie for kids. It doesn't matter if the original version was later on restored for the Blu-ray. If given the job, he will think the new Star Wars is for first and second graders. And there's a very good chance that he won't make a *kids' movie* the way he made one in 1982. He'll make one where Jedis settle disputes with tickle fights and conflict mediation. Just watch.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 5:43 p.m. CST
Spielberg making a SW movie? 25 years ago it might had worked wonderfully. Nowdays it would just be a publicity stunt. He's no longer that guy anymore.
by albert comin
Spielberg is no longer that Mr Adventure guy he used to be in his youth, and that's a good thing, it's called evolving and growing up. Spielberg would do good in resisting going on nostalgia trips and trying to catch that lightining of youth because whenever he does that it all ends in tears and royal fuck up, like Crystal Skull. If SW is to continue, somebody else has to do it.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 6:14 p.m. CST
Del Toro makes great movies if they are spoken in spanish language. Though a spanish speaking SW movie is an intriguing idea.
by albert comin
"Mira la estrella de la muerte, coño".
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Oct. 31, 2012, 6:16 p.m. CST
- "?Onde tienes los planos de la estrella de la muerte, puta madre?" "Yo no sei que estas dizendo, cabron!" -
by albert comin
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Oct. 31, 2012, 6:18 p.m. CST
- "Luke, you soi tu padre, puto" "No, cabron! COOOOOÑOOOOOO!!!!!!"-
by albert comin
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Oct. 31, 2012, 6:18 p.m. CST
It's a bit late to be worrying about branding. SW has been slapped on anything sellable for decades.
by Mark Jones
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Oct. 31, 2012, 6:18 p.m. CST
On the subject of filmmakers - I'd be happier knowing there's a good writer on board, rather than an A list director (as I realised watching Prometheus).
by Mark Jones
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Ah yes, the pain! Who knew that a good writer, or a bad one for that matter, would make such a difference? Sounds like a no brainer, and yet...
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Tired of these movies looking like plastic, candy colored shit. Get some mood and atmosphere going again.
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Yeah, I don't get the hate either. Ok, except for the Ewoks. But seriously, the Gungans are 10000x worse. At least the Ewoks were REAL physical beings. A New Hope - 9 Empire - 10 Jedi - 8 Menace - 2 Clones - 3 Sith - 4
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Oct. 31, 2012, 7:16 p.m. CST
I'm betting Lindelof is the writer for the first batch of post OT STAR WARS films
by lv_426
I posted a theory on all that in the other Star Wars thread, but since this site doesn't seem to work properly at the moment, let's use this shorter post as a test case shall we?
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Tired of the scripts being crap. George wasn't a horrible director. His writing was at fault most of the time. If Disney hires a Whedon-quality writer, and Brad Bird they'll be laughing all the way to the bank and fans will have an amazing film.
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Keep that devil away from Star Wars.
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Asspipe- you are wrongo....Spielberg released the original version of ET on blu....shut your gob.
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Because he's the go-to hate guy now? I'm no fan, but why?
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I said not once but TWICE in that post that it DOES NOT MATTER what version was released on Blu-ray. If FOR ANY VERSION RELEASED ANY TIME OR ANYWHERE, EVEN TEMPORARILY, Spielberg looked at ET and found it somehow *too violent for kids*, it means he is no longer reliable if he thinks he's making a movie for kids. Even if the guns came back for the Blu-ray, it doesn't matter. I don't care if the guy sends me a personal hand-written apology and admission of error. The fact that he could think those thoughts for EVEN ONE MOMENT means that he's not the filmmaker he was in 1982 any more. Because in 1982, I suppose, he was still young enough to retain enough 8 year old inside himself to know that to an 8 year old, seeing a gun on screen is trivial. It's not traumatic in the least. It's not damaging in the least. If you have EVEN ONE MOMENT when you panic that seeing a gun in a movie might traumatize an 8 year old, you're officially too old and too patronizing and you don't get to take it back later when you put out the Blu-ray. He's still a great filmmaker - when he thinks he's making a film for an adult audience. But he wouldn't think that was his assignment if he got the Star Wars job.
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Start with a clean slate, if they have any new characters, I hope they use new actors/actresses.
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WOW. We can agree on something, this is truly a new beginning.
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Unfortunately, we'll get Lindelof and a Star Wars version of Prometheus, starring Taylor Kitsch and Miley Cirus. Come back, George!!!
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Oct. 31, 2012, 9:39 p.m. CST
Shumacher available? Need more stormtrooper nipples!
by Obi Wanna Cannoli
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Oct. 31, 2012, 9:52 p.m. CST
turd -- I have put together a thesis. Lindelof writing Episode 7 with Brad Bird directing, codenamed 1952.
by lv_426
It starts to add up if you look into a little project called 1952 that Lindelof wrote for Disney in the last year (approximately). This mysterious 1952 has Brad Bird is signed on to direct it. That is likely why he isn't returning for a Mission Impossible 5. http://www.firstshowing.net/2012/brad-bird-set-to-direct-damon-lindelofs-1952-not-1906-for-disney/ Some specific highlights from the article: *Brad Bird and fan-favorite film writer Damon Lindelof are teaming up for a new project at Disney. Bird, coming off of his first live-action with Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol, is set to direct the mysterious large scale sci-fi project 1952. Whether that's just a codename or an actual year related to the story, we're not yet sure, but the project "has multi-platform aspirations" meaning Disney wants it for theme parks, retail stores and theaters. It'll no doubt be a "big tentpole" movie, and with these two storytellers leading the way, it is definitely something to watch for.* Theme park and retail store aspirations? I don't know about you, but this sounds like it could be the next phase of Star Wars. *Now we know that Brad Bird is definitely on-board to direct, but other than that, still no plot details. Anyone? It sounds like Disney has something on their hands that could be huge, and they're making sure to build it from the ground up properly, with the right talent top to bottom. I just wish we knew any extra details about what it was actually about.* My theory is that 1952 is a codename for episode 7, 8, and 9. Just as Blue Harvest was used as a working title to throw the media off when Return of the Jedi was in production. Why 1952 though? Because it implies that the title is referring to the year 1952, which had an incident where supposedly some UFOs *buzzed the tower* if you will over Washington D.C. Also, Mark Hamil was born in Sept. of 1951. I'm guessing that since this story will probably have Luke as the Obi-Wan type of mentor as many are suggesting, that it was a cute little Lindelofian trick to throw people by having the fake title imply the Washington D.C. UFO fly-by. This also explains how Disney already has the basics worked out in terms of already being able to announce episodes 7-9 and more Star Wars films after those. I bet Lindelof sat down with George Lucas and hashed out the basic story structure for ep. 7-9 and for some of the ideas for stuff that comes after, or maybe more pre-prequel era stuff. Just like he sat alongside Ridley and rewrote John Spaihts' Alien Engineers script, which became Prometheus.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 9:56 p.m. CST
zod -- check my reply to turd... Hopefully AICN's talkback computer the Harry 9000 hasn't fucked over my reply
by lv_426
The other Star Wars/Disney thread seems to have gone to pot.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 10:07 p.m. CST
I can only hope that Disney will be as great a steward to the work of George Lucas as they were with Hitchhiker's Guide To the Galaxy starring Zooey Deschanel, or the Avengers,
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
which I guess if you didn't wear the special glasses you probably couldn't tell what an empty loud, tedious, (and self-referential) movie it was
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Oct. 31, 2012, 10:08 p.m. CST
Liam Neeson was born in 1952, Mark Hamill was born near the end of 1951
by lv_426
The UFO fly over of Washington D.C. occurred approx. July 19-26 of 1952. Could this not only be a smokescreen to hide the Lindelof/Bird Star Wars collaboration, but also be a hint at the possible release date for Star Wars episode 7? The Star Wars films traditionally were all released in May, but with Avengers Disney might want to separate them a bit. This way The Avengers II can keep the early summer movie season release window of late April or early May. If this is how it goes down, then Disney will own the summer of 2015, and the Star Wars ep7 juggenaut will leave a trail of money all the way through the holiday season of 2015. Of course, don't be surprised if they re-release ep7 in the fall to rake in a second wave of box office bounty. Then the DVD and Blu-ray in December, available for a limited time. I'm also guessing that Disney and Lucasfilm will want to stay away from any potential big dogs like Bond or an Avatar II/III type blockbuster that traditionally will aim to release in November or December. Not that they will be afraid of Avatar or Bond, but just that it won't make sense to have all those bunched up in the same season as Avengers and Star Wars.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 10:08 p.m. CST
I especially loved it when Scarlett knocked that guy out with her hair.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
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Oct. 31, 2012, 10:12 p.m. CST
darth_kong, where are you man? I may have cracked to code to the Star Wars mystery box!
by lv_426
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If they let him or Abrams or those other unbearable hacks Orci and Kurtzman anywhere near Star Wars, the rebirth of that franchise is over before it begins.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 10:19 p.m. CST
Michael Bay needs to do the exact same video announcement that he's the next director for episode 7
by Particularly Hard Vato
Just to fuck with people...
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Oct. 31, 2012, 10:30 p.m. CST
Well, I never said I was jumping for joy over the idea of Lindelof writing a Star Wars film
by lv_426
I think my theory is sound though. Think about it. For a big film like Star Wars ep7, the 2015 summer movie season is only 2.5 years away. It wouldn't surprise me at all if things are already in motion in terms of a script and early pre-production for episode 7. Also, it isn't like episode 7 will release in a vacuum. They have to have an idea of where the overall narrative will go in episodes 8 and 9. Then not long after that, the whole notion of more Star Wars films every two to three years means they don't have that much time to map out the grander story beats if they are just starting right now!
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If Lindelof is scripting SW7 based on some drafts from Lucas, then this is a disaster. Bird is phenomenal for this project but he can't save it from the stink that Lindelof will give it. But the more i read your theory, the more it makes sense. god save us all...
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*The reason I didn't tweet immediately is due to the heart attack I just had. Holy SHIT.* If we look at this closely, could it mean that he had a Holy SHIT moment because now he knows the stuff he wrote with Lucas could become reality? If Lindelof or any other writers worked with Lucas on a new Star Wars trilogy story/script, then it still might have been a case of wondering if it is going to happen or not. Now that the Disney buyout of Lucasfilm has officially happened, he knows it is all going to proceed, and he'll have to be hyping the next Star Wars against all the massive expectation from fans. *My twitter feed: 38% : "You should write the new Star Wars!" 47% : "Don't fucking touch the new Star Wars!" 15% : Undecided.* Maybe Lindelof is humorously hinting at how he already has the job, but he knows that he can't please everyone.
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Episode 7 will literally be nothing you’ve ever seen or read before from the Star Wars universe.”
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Oct. 31, 2012, 10:40 p.m. CST
It's an interesting theory. By the way, the buzz at Disney
by Brian Hopper
(at least among a few lower-level people I know there) is that 1952 is a totally separate project and is NOT Star Wars 7.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 10:44 p.m. CST
kabong -- they're probably going to ditch the Extended Universe stuff
by lv_426
I mean, look at Alien or Terminator. They didn't re-route all the sequels to follow the comic books and tie-in novels did they? I doubt Disney will want to be tied to the Extended Universe. At least not completely. Maybe they'll cherry pick bits and pieces that they like from the EU though.
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It was the article I read where they said 1952 wasn't just a movie, but would tie-in to the Disney brand with toys, merchandise, and theme park rides and attractions. That's when I thought, ah-ha, 1952 might just be this next phase of Star Wars.
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I've heard about this Star Wars business and makes sense to me. One of the people I know at Disney knows someone doing prepro on 1952 and says it's alien stuff as described previously. But on reflection it could be a Blue Harvest-style cover. I'm doubting it, but I agree it at least seems plausible.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 10:58 p.m. CST
Sadly, lv_426 has a pretty solid argument and he may be right.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
sigh There are so many talented writers out there looking for work, why does Lindelof keep getting gigs? His writing for Prometheus was horrid, absolutely amateur. "Look, there's a painting on the wall!" "No, it's a mural." Suddenly George Lucas's prequels dialogue seems like cormac Mcarthy.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 10:59 p.m. CST
Lindelof's tweets... proving he hasn't learned a damn thing from 7 years of fucking with us with Lost
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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About 100 or 1000 years after JEDI? The original site is gone now so here's another link.. http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/10/new-star-wars-trilogy/ LV_426, you really may be onto something. Release date of 2015? They've had to have been cooking this up for years now. Also, remember Lucas writing a letter to Lindelof and Cuse near the end of LOST? He was a fan supposedly, and shit, with all the STAR WARS references, geek friendliness (arguably), vast mythology, rabid and youthful fans, it's really not too hard to imagine what George might have seen in Damon. Which is at the very least an indication that Damon and George have probably already had extensive discussions. Lucas wouldn't have stooped down for some lowly little TV writers if he hadn't have been courting them in some way.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 11:08 p.m. CST
Theory: live-action tv series that's been in development is front, it's work for the new movies
by Hardboiled Wonderland
It's a huge stretch, I know, but with a release date of 2015, this thing has to have been in development for a couple of years already.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 11:13 p.m. CST
The only good thing I can see out of Lindelof's involvement is Lost cast members getting Star Wars gigs
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Josh Holloway, Ken Leung, Terry O'Quinn, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, Nestor Carbenell, Harold Perrineua... that would absolutely rock. Not keen on Michelle Rodriguez or Maggie Grace though! Jorge maybe, but he gets all the Jar Jar roles in tv series, I want better for the man.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 11:27 p.m. CST
I hope they find an Edgar Wright, or a Rian Johnson, or even a Brad Bird or a Neill Blomkamp
by thundarrrr
...who wants to make something original instead of rehashing tired shit.
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Han/Leia's granddaughter is a Padawan. The New Republic comes under attack from a resurgent Sith order( no more two Sith rule) and an army of Mandalorians. The Jedi order is decimated and she escapes to search the galaxy for the recluse Great Uncle Luke to mentor her in the ways of the Force. He does ,but he gets killed by the end of the first movie after saying some really cool shit. C-3P0 and R2 will be in it. She will meet a scoundrel and a Prince on the way. They well help her fight the Sith as they battle for her affections. But she's a Jedi and she doesn't need a boyfriend and this leads to betrayal in Episode VIII by one of them. Somebody the main characters least expect will be behind the Sith threat. And some little cute silly aliens our heroine encounters in the third film will make fan boys shit their pants. The story almost writes itself.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 11:33 p.m. CST
theumpirestrokesbach -- nice find, as it definitely fits in with the timeline
by lv_426
As your link from 2010 says: *The unconfirmed report says the new trilogy, which ideally would hit theaters within two years of the 3-D re-release of the first six Star Wars movies, would have nothing to do with the live-action Star Wars television show that’s in development.* I didn't even factor in the 3D re-releases of all six Star Wars films. We had Episode I earlier this year. Episode II and III aren't getting their 3D re-releases until next fall. That means they are probably going to do the OT films in 3D throughout 2014. Maybe ANH in winter or spring 2014, and then Empire in the summer or fall, followed by ROTJ in January or February 2015. That gets the hype built up closer to the Episode 7 release in 2015, but also doesn't crowd it too much either. It also allows the younglings to see all six films leading up to the new trilogy. Add all that up and it makes perfect sense why they are releasing in 2015, but probably have things well underway in terms of the overall storyline and production team. It also tells us what George has been up to these last few years. Besides Red Tails, this Star Wars 7-9 trilogy is why we haven't heard jack shit about another Indiana Jones sequel.
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I meant that I'd like to see something like 'Knights Of The Old Republic' type stuff. Watching a younger Yoda, teenager Palpatine, R2-D2 creation and first activation, and loads of Ray Park style of Sith lords would be something that I'd watch of interest.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 11:40 p.m. CST
see, paburrows_rises, that's how much Lost fucked with us!
by Hardboiled Wonderland
It felt like 10.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 11:44 p.m. CST
Can't wait to see Charlize Theron get squashed by a rolling Death Star
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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Oct. 31, 2012, 11:47 p.m. CST
Honestly...I'd hope Kathleen K. keeps Star Wars away from...
by conspiracy
...any of the so called big writers out there right now; most of whom are barely much more capable than George himself is. I can't think of anyone out there right now that the studios would consider a "hot" writer, who I believe can deliver an script of Empire level quality...which is exactly what this franchise demands if it is to take off again. I know they gave a deadline for a film...a deadline tied to Igers last year as CEO I might add...but I do hope they take their time and do this right.
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May be on to something with that 1952 theory. Not that it will bother me if he's the writer. I actually liked Prometheus and some of his other work as well. And if I'm not mistaken he's a big time Star Wars fan.
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Oct. 31, 2012, 11:50 p.m. CST
'Star Wars' reaction: Abrams, Favreau, Nolfi, and Rodriguez weigh in -- EXCLUSIVE
by Paul
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/10/31/star-wars-episode-vii-directors-disney/
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'Star Wars' reaction: Abrams, Favreau, Nolfi, and Rodriguez weigh in -- EXCLUSIVE Some of the biggest Star Wars fans in the world are the Hollywood writers, directors, and producers who bought a ticket for a Jedi movie in the 1970s and 1980s. On Tuesday, as headlines announced a new hope for a return to Star Wars glory, those Tinseltown loyalists were hit by the Force all over again. “All I can say is my heart literally started racing when I heard,” said Damon Lindleof, screenwriter for Prometheus. George Nolfi, writer-director of The Adjustment Bureau, said the horizon will need to be bigger to handle the colossal project taking shape there. “I can’t imagine,” Nolfi said Monday night, “a larger event-film for our generation than a sequel to Return of the Jedi.” To recap: Monday’s thunderclap news began when the Walt Disney Company announced the acquisition of Lucasfilm (for $4.05 billion in cash and stock) and the ramp up for up for Episode 7. In the saga’s on-screen chronology, that puts the new film after Vader’s fiery funeral in Star Wars: Episode VI — Return of the Jedi. And, just like his most famous character, Lucas is also stepping away from the center of the Star Wars universe as others take control of the power and the plotting. “For the past 35 years, one of my greatest pleasures has been to see Star Wars passed from one generation to the next,” Lucas said in in a statement. “It’s now time for me to pass Star Wars on to a new generation of filmmakers.” EW Daily Poll: Halloween: Which were spookiest? That’s a surprise considering George Lucas made it clear through the years that Ewok celebration on the forest moon of Endor was the proper place for his universe to fade to black; to Lucas, the story possibilities of the Jedi saga went up in smoke with the charred remains of Anakin Skywalker. When I interviewed him in 2008 for the Los Angeles Times, for instance, he had little patience for the idea that Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, and Princess Leia might be interesting to follow in the wake of the second Death Star’s destruction. In the non-film versions of the saga, for instance, Han Solo and Princess Leia marry and have three children, one of them named Anakin after his ill-fated grandfather. All of it has been popular with hardcore fans, but Lucas for years said there was nothing left to say after the teddy bear luau. “I get asked all the time, ‘What happens after Return of the Jedi?’ and there really is no answer for that,” Lucas said. “The movies were the story of Anakin Skywalker and Luke Skywalker, and when Luke saves the galaxy and redeems his father, that’s where that story ends….[Possible futures have] been covered in the books and video games and comic books, which are things I think are incredibly creative but that I don’t really have anything to do with other than being the person who built the sandbox they’re playing in.” Now others will also be allowed to dig their shovel into the feature films. Some observers think that Dave Filoni, the director of the supervising director of the animated Star Wars: The Clone Wars, will get the promotion to live-action. On the Internet, though, fans are more enamored with big names such as Peter Jackson, J.J. Abrams, Joss Whedon, and Jon Favreau. Favreau, director of the first two Iron Man films, said Tuesday that he’s got no more insight than anyone else. But, like his fortysomething filmmaker peerage, his spectacle films are still rooted in the experience of seeing the 1977 film again and again as a wide-eyed 10-year-old. The young fan in him still has a deep desire to see the beloved saga of his youth reach new heights. “The idea of another trilogy that further shrouds the Force in mystery as its secrets are lost to time – that’s extremely compelling,” Favreau said. “I want so bad for it to be good. Can you imagine?” Nolfi echoed similar feelings: “Star Wars literally defined ‘the magic of movies’ to me as a child. No other film had more impact on my subconscious desire to become a filmmaker. Shawn Levy, director of Real Steel and the Night at the Museum films, also chimed in when reached Tuesday: “The Star Wars franchise is nothing short of a generational touchstone…I literally can’t think of any comparable cultural phenom that has so pervasively shaped and galvanized viewers to the extent that Star Wars has. It’s embedded in my — and our — cultural DNA in a unique way and these are enduring strands.” Then there’s Star Trek franchise director J.J. Abrams, the transported Star Wars fan who once said his toughest Starfleet mission will be pulling the brand out of Lucas’ shadow. On Monday, he was so conflicted in his feelings about the news that veered into something close to Shatnerian syntax: “Part of me? Thrilled. Part of me? Terrified. Most of me? Thrillified.” Sin City and Machete director Robert Rodriguez was more pragmatic in his comments. He said he’s especially excited that the new venture will be led by Lucasfilm new co-chairman, Kathleen Kennedy, a longtime collaborator with Steven Spielberg and a high-integrity figure in Hollywood. “What an amazing world and legacy George Lucas has created — and it needs to continue in capable hands,” the Texas-based filmmaker said. “I do think Disney is the best studio for the job and the fact that they brought in Kathleen Kennedy? I can’t imagine a better scenario. And 2015 can’t get here fast enough.” http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/10/31/star-wars-episode-vii-directors-disney/#
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Dear God, Lindelof onboard episode 7 would be a blessing compared to Rodriguez.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 12:10 a.m. CST
@sentinel_maximus - I was thinking something similar with the first movie being about the first Jedi.
by Paul
The hero of the trilogy would be the first Jedi who "discovers" the force (Buddha like) , creates the first light saber...gets disciples(Yoda) and fights his Sith equivalent.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 12:12 a.m. CST
I support Brad Bird as a director for these new Star Wars films
by lv_426
Other options: Joe Johnston is a good option, whether he does the Boba Fett standalone spin-off movie or not. Kenneth Branaugh? He might be well suited for a darker, more tragic Empire Strikes Back style chapter in this new trilogy. I like other suggestions like Cuaron, Kosinski, and maybe Faverau. Blomkamp would be good, but if his next film is a success he might still want to stick to original works. Speaking of which, with a Star Wars film every two years starting in 2015, will sci-fi cinema be even more limited? Just as the superhero movies are dominated by the big properties like Batman, Marvel, X-Men, and Avengers, perhaps Star Wars will scare away other studios. Besides a few other established franchises like more Prometheus and Mad Max, who the hell in their right minds would want to compete for the next decade with Avatar and Star Wars sequels?
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Nov. 1, 2012, 12:17 a.m. CST
mrsalamander -- I like that idea, a Sith/Jedi origin story done in an epic style
by lv_426
Follow one protagonist, almost more in the style of Lawrence of Arabia than the kind of ensemble type of character focus we've seen in the Star Wars films so far. I doubt they'll be doing something like your idea for this new trilogy of episodes 7-9, but for the stuff after that, why not go far back in the timeline to something like your idea or an Old Republic setting? Or would your concept be pretty much set in the Old Republic? Something like that would technically be a prequel, but not like the SW prequel trilogy or the Abrams Star Trek reboot, or even Prometheus was limited by prior canon. Going back thousands of years in the SW timeline wouldn't be so limiting to story possibilities like most prequels end up being hamstrung these days.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 12:19 a.m. CST
Any chance of Disney releasing the OT on DVD and Bluray?
by Ye Not Guilty
Han shot first!
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Actually success usually breads copycats (just look what Avatar did for 3D movies and Shreck/Pixar did for computer animation). We'll probably get tons and tons of horribly made science fiction movies that are trying to cash in on the Star Wars success.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 12:26 a.m. CST
OT on DVD/Blu and Star Wars Battlefront 3 for XB360/PS3/PC seem to be at the top of most fan's wish lists
by lv_426
At least from what I've seen from bumbling around the internets today. I'll second those requests, as well as throw in my vote for that Star Wars anime proof-of-concept to become an official series. The one Harry posted here with the Tie Fighter pilots going up against some X-Wings. That anime Star Wars thing was awesome, and would definitely help bring in more variety by giving the world something cool that we've never seen done with the whole Star Wars universe.
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...ask for TIE Fighter 2, not Battlefront 3!
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We want Nolan, Fincher, Proyas. But we'll probably get Rodriguez, Cohen, or Ratner.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 12:53 a.m. CST
paburrows_rises -- well, hopefully this will help push sci-fi movies along instead of hampering them
by lv_426
Science fiction in general is in a weird place now. Yes, I know Star Wars is more of a space opera/fantasy adventure thing than hardcore science fiction, but it does have massive influence on the sci-fi/fantasy genre as a whole. Same with Star Trek, which is a bit more tilted towards the science end of the spectrum than the more fantastical Star Wars. So in a general sense, Star Wars fits into the overall arena of sci-fi/fantasy. Anyways, the genre of sci-fi is going through a bit of an identity crisis on the literary side of things (as it seems to have been in this state of identity crisis for a while now). http://lareviewofbooks.org/article.php?id=904&fulltext=1 ^ Personally I think the above criticism is a bit gassy and overblown, but it has stirred up the literary SF/fantasy community, both readers and writers. Drowned out by the East Coast superstorm and the Lucasfilm/Disney news, we have the recent merger of publishing giants Penguin and Random House. About half of the major sci-fi/fantasy imprints are under either one of these two umbrellas. So just like Disney, Marvel, and Lucasfilm being under one big corporate umbrella, so are sci-fi/fantasy imprints Ace, Roc, and DAW. Not only that, but even with hits like Avatar, District 9, and Inception, all of movie sci-fi is still beholden to spectacle and 'splosions most of the time. Even Star Trek has succumbed to this mentality. The thing is Hollywood execs tried to write off a hit like Inception as dumb luck, but they'll look at this Star Wars via Disney as a proven franchise IP-driven formula when it is no doubt a massive box office success two and a half years from now. It could very well be just another excuse for Hollywood execs to look the other way when it comes to original works, in any genre but specifically SF/fantasy stuff. So that is sort of why I'm worried there being Star Wars bashing us over the head every two years ad infinitum.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 12:59 a.m. CST
lenin1969 -- in terms of Star Wars games, in a perfect world we'd get TIE Fighter 2, Battlefront 3, and KOTOR 3
by lv_426
Instead of fucking Angry Birds Star Wars and that awful Dancing Han Solo thing that Nordling posted above. But we all know better... Like Lucas, Disney is probably going to be more interested in catering to kids for most of the new Star Wars related stuff. I just hope the films are the best they can be, and are more in line with the tone of the OT than the sillier PT.
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I just asked her about it and she said yeah its a huge deal. I dont want only kiddie themed, but it does have its place, even the stupid prequels which can be fun to watch if you don't think about things and fast forword through some of the Anakin scenes. But I get you, there does also need to be bigger weightier themes, not dark and adult though because you can go the extreme opposite and things suffer also. I like The current Clone Wars series, because it appeals to kids, but it has a hign level of quality and seriousness to itself, but at the same time knows when the appropriate time to be funny.
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thing is, there arent good sci-fi movies made anymore. inception was awesome and so was the matrix, so no wonder right... but you cant ask general audience to droll over bad star trek movies, yes they werent very good movies, but they were interesting tales of sci-fi. Films are an art that demands attention and not meant for some uber class of intellectuals. Avatar was a great spectacle, john carter wasnt. Promethesis played on tired themes. Unless we have another matrix in our hands sci-fi will still be in the bottom pit not even star wars can rescue it.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 2:01 a.m. CST
I'm much more into imagining what kind of RIDES they will hopefully make --
by MooseMalloy
- A Wookie Village log ride (maybe throw in a few ewoks). - A CLONE WARS animated style ride! - An Original Trilogy Ride and a separate Prequel ride. - A Coruscant indoor coaster ride, like Space Mountain only sweeping around portions of the city. I would bet that all of these ideas have been discussed by the Imagineers already. Also a stage show where Star Wars characters dance around to bad hip-hop and dance music, which they might already have.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 2:11 a.m. CST
Talkbackers you bring shame to this dojo. JETTL93 will be writing and directing the new Star Wars movies.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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Thats what the new Star Tours is, theres about 12 different random ride/shows that you can go through and they take you through different parts of the 6 movies.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 2:12 a.m. CST
Give a standalone "focus on the metaphysical Force story" movie to the Wachowskis
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Cloud Atlas and The Matrix is enough proof they could make something special.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 2:14 a.m. CST
if I can't shoot womp rats in Beggar's Canyon at Disney, forget it
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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Complete with animatronic Figrin D'an and the Modal Nodes band and various weird alien scum scattered about. A menu with Star Wars themed names. Nerf Burger anyone? Breaded Tauntaun strips and nutrient paste dipping sauce? How about some fried Mynock and chips? Oh, and a *Shoot Greedo First* interactive game off to the corner. If can draw and shoot faster than the animatronic Greedo five out of five times, then you'd get a prize, the OT Blu-ray/DVD combo set. This will be the only way to attain the OT films, as Disney will never actually release them in the store. Purists will make the trek to the Lucasville area of Disneyland, spending a fortune attempting to beat the sneaky robo-Greedo, who is programmed by Vegas gaming technicians to win 99.999999% of the time.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 2:20 a.m. CST
If I get to see a wookie rip a man's arm off, the cantina is good to go, lv_426!
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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I mean if Bob Orci shows up on the talkbacks from time to time... who knows?
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Nov. 1, 2012, 2:43 a.m. CST
George: "Damon, *I* am your father!" Lindelof: "Yeeeeeessssssss!"
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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Nov. 1, 2012, 2:46 a.m. CST
I wouldn't be surprised if the Spierig brothers get mentioned soon
by Hardboiled Wonderland
When Genndy "Clone Wars" Tartakovsky left Disney/Henson's Dark Crystal sequel , the Spierigs got hired (and then dumped, the project scrapped).
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Nov. 1, 2012, 2:49 a.m. CST
Erk, posted before finishing. So I imagine the Spierigs would be in the mix.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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Nov. 1, 2012, 3:07 a.m. CST
Lindelof: Vader's great great great grandpappy was an Engineer, who are also the race from which all Sith and Jedi descended from
by lv_426
The circle is now complete.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 3:09 a.m. CST
Aliens vs. Jedi vs. Sith vs. Engineers vs. Predator vs. Goofy vs. Jack Sparrow
by lv_426
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Nov. 1, 2012, 3:13 a.m. CST
That giant space slug that lives in an asteroid in Empire Strikes Back
by lv_426
Was just a giant fucking xenomorph larvae. Observe: http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/10/109340/2154563-chestburster.jpg http://images.geeknative.com.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/starwars-spaceslug.jpg
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Nov. 1, 2012, 3:15 a.m. CST
The Engineers wanted to wipe out humanity on Earth because we worshipped the wrong gods
by lv_426
The Engineers were the Sith, while Jesus was a Jedi. The Engineers wiped out all life in the Star Wars galaxy a long time ago. Then tried to make new life, but this new life discovered the way of The Force, and had to be destroyed before they became too powerful.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 3:16 a.m. CST
Damon Lindelof presents: Star Wars Engineers: The Really Old Republic
by lv_426
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Ripley is of course a distant relative to Leia and Han's family line. That is why she has the feisty qualities of Leia, and the height of Han Solo. Do I even have to mention the Solo/Deckard connection? Oh, and Chewbacca and the wookies are the race from which sasquatch came from.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 3:23 a.m. CST
they need to keep a distance between star wars and hollywood jews
by dioxholsters_scion
jews make nothing but medicority now, just dont put star wars in their hands and we might come out of this okay
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Nov. 1, 2012, 3:27 a.m. CST
Now all we need to do is figure out how Big Trouble In Little China fits into all this
by lv_426
Egg Shen a Jedi? Lo Pan a Sith lord? Actually, Jack Burton is a bit like Han Solo when you get down to it. And they were trying to rescue a sort of princess character (the girl with the green eyes who would become Lo Pan's queen). Millenium Falcon = Pork Chop Express
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Nov. 1, 2012, 4:05 a.m. CST
lol, I hope Lindelof's writing this all down, lv_426!
by Hardboiled Wonderland
I hope Jar Jar Abrams makes a cameo. I know it's a mean nickname (no one likes Jar Jar), but it never ceases to crack me up. JJ should wear it like a badge of honour.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 4:06 a.m. CST
I wonder when the Indy news will come, it won't be far behind
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Is Josh Brolin Indiana Jones or what? http://www.flicksandbits.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/josh-brolin-gangster-squad.jpg
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Theres something about George in these videos that seems odd. Ive seen a couple of videos of him talking about this take-over, and theres something just . . . off. I can't tell if it's an admission of defeat like a 'I couldn't please the fans anymore, I don't know what they want' sort of thing. Or if he's been pressured into it. But I definately get the sense that he's exhausted. In a way I almost feel sorry for the guy ( not that much, he's stinking rich). He obviously had a plan for the story and it hasn't really worked the way he had hoped (financially it has, but in satisfying the fans, it hasn't) . As a designer, I know what its like to have artistic criticism and constant outside meddling in creative choices. Its easy for people to say 'you raped my childhood' etc but at the end of the day its his creation, and without him we'd have no Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Pixar etc etc. He's done a lot for film and entertainment as a whole, so its sad to see he's reached this point of overwhelming criticism. But I guess he's realised that this franchise is so much bigger than just him so its time to let it go. Having said all that i'm excited to see where Star Wars goes from here. . .
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lv_426, I would email your theory about 1952 to the writers here - it'll get tweeted around the word in 48 hours and blow the lid off this whole damn conspiracy!!! In fact im not sure I want that to happen because I really believe Brad Bird would be the dream director for this gig (in fact I was the first talkbacker to mention his name in this thread). As for Damon Lindelof, im pretty neutral - but again I think the deleted scenes from PROMETHEUS prove that the theatrical cut was not kind to Lindelof and I certainly think he is a better writer than GL on the prequels.
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I think you are into something with your theory about the dreadful Lindelf penning the next SW movies. Which is no suprise for me, really. And i bet JJ Abrams is already doing his uttermost efforts, pleading and bribing, to get the directing gig. He will use his Star Trek movies as currincula for the gig. I'm not suprised that some of this hacks like Lindelof and Abrams, who are corporative boys, are so happy about the selling of LucasFilm to Disney. It's their favorite thing in the world in their turf. It all adds up. Star Wars 7 directed by JJ Abrams writen by Lindelof, Orci and Kurtzman, on a theater near you, May 2015. Bet on it.
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scirocco, I think a better bet would be Star Wars 7 directed by Brad Bird and written by Damon Lindelof. In fact im wondering if there are any bookies around that would take such a bet!!! The description for 1952, vaguely worded as it is, does sound an awful lot like it could be STAR WARS.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 5:34 a.m. CST
yes, i also felt that Lucas looked tired and slightly depressed in those videos above.
by albert comin
It might be a relief to hand over SW to soembody else, but at the same time i agree that Lucas might feel insatisfaction for the rest of his life that the saga didn't pan out like he wanted, and the extreme negativity reactions it got might have discouraged him. In my opinion, Lucas spent too much time with SW. My favorite Lucas movie is THX 1138, and i wish he had made more movies like that, instead of wasting himself only in SW with the ocasional jump to Indiana Jones territory. When Coppola said there's more to Lucas then just SW, i believe him. But now, will Lucas have the energy and enthusiasm to start anew? The real George Lucas is to be found in movies like THX 1138 and American Graffitti, and Indiana Jones too. SW was a sideline job that consumed his life for far too long.
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I agree with both statements. Our friend lv_426 made an excelent argument for his theory and i'm a believer. Brad Bird directing a SW movie would be the right thing to do. I can't think of others much better suited for the task. But we all know what a schemer Abrams is, he's sickly obsessed with SW, and he wants it, he just wants it. Don't forget that Lindelof is one of Abrams' vassals, and Brad Brid owns hislive action film career to Abrams in many ways because his first live action movie, MI4, was produced by Abrams and Bird got the gig thanks to him. Time to call favours, don't you think? It's not like a movie changing directors is a new thing in Holywood, is it? And even if Abrams doesn't get the SW7 gig, who' to say he will not get the SW8 or 9? We all know that Abrams went to the ST gig half-assed, he's in it not because he believes it but to futher advance his career. SW is a different matter, he believes in SW, he loves SW, and damn if i believe he will be seated quiet with his hands crossed while others play with the toys he deems his. This will not be the last we heard of Abrams in relation to Disney SW, certainly not some idiotic smarty-pants quip.
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Here's what Disney thinks of Star Wars. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkTQwP2gFxU Lucas had nothing to do with that. Congrats. You all encouraged populism and boardroom politics instead of niche indie auteurism.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 6:13 a.m. CST
Lucas made the prequels for himself.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
Lucas did not cater to audiences with the prequels, that is why they are hated. Now you will see the horror of Star Wars movies as product. You have never seen such a thing before. Yes, he funded the movies with products and licensing, but he protected the films and his creative process from all that. The horror will unleash in 3 years, and you will be begging for auteur Lucas.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 6:17 a.m. CST
I feel for GL, he doesn't deserve the hate and bitterness and vitriol
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Save the hate for murderers and rapists and pedophiles and politicians, people.
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Was centered on the idea of who owns Star Wars... You all wanted Lucas to give up control of his movie world. Well, now Disney owns it, not you. Not the fans. How you like them apples? By the way, Disney is very litigious, so good luck with those fan projects, websites, etc.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 6:18 a.m. CST
Give it to Brad Bird -- he wants it, he had a test run with John Carter and he'll be all the better for it
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Please, just keep Abrams and Lindelof away from SW.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 6:20 a.m. CST
He rightfully hates the moviegoing public...
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
I think this is the best way to exact revenge upon so-called Star Wars fans who grew up to embrace bad values, and stabbed him in the back.
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remember how it felt after the abortion of an ending of LOST when you disappointed millions of people? that is nothing compared to when you fuck up star wars. you will be hated even more than george lucas himself. oh, and i know you are reading this because you are smug little weasel who doesn't understand being a fan of something great doesn't make you qualified to add to it.
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hardboiled, you got your directors confused. It was Andrew Stanton who went from WALL-E to JOHN CARTER. Brad Bird went from THE INCREDIBLES to MI: GHOST PROTOCOL. Both made the transition from animation to live action. One produced a turkey. The other created something unheard of, the fourth entry in a seres that also happens to be the best entry!
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Nov. 1, 2012, 6:39 a.m. CST
There will be a 3rd Death Star, and somehow Luke will be the bad guy
by TheJudger
The Solo twins are the Luke Leia thing now. In the 8th chapter. Evil Luke will reveal to the twins that he's really their father, and the circle will be complete, and the 9th film will have a 4th death star and small teddy bears.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 6:42 a.m. CST
Disney ownership and studio control...
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
... means it's over before it begins. You don't know what you got 'til it's gone. Studio control and Star Wars do not mix. Period.
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That whole chapter closed. Vader and The Emperor- Master and Apprentice- Dead. The Grip the Empire had on the Universe- Gone. Vader was the Jedi's Hope, he failed- His son became the New Hope- he didn't fail, he sacrificed selflessly until it willed his father out of the darkness. The Jedi was reborn the Empire crumbled. A Family Affair- There was no other way. What then can possibly be told from this point forward that can beat that scope. I'd rather see where it all began, and this time I want to see a woman as a villain.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 6:59 a.m. CST
Luke goes to the Cantina, has a Blue Milk, and Sleeps with his Sister.
by TheJudger
He pulls that mind trick crap to wipe ot from her mind, and then he disappears for a few decades.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 7:09 a.m. CST
In other news, I heard Val Kilmer is getting back in shape to play Madmartigan again... he's been spotted playing shirtless beach volleyball with Rick Rossovich and Anthony Edwards in Malibu
by lv_426
I guess Tom was too busy to come.
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Now that Disney has Fox over the barrel. Do this; you want some of the proceeds from distribution rights to the Star Wars films, ok, fine, then GIVE US BACK YOUR RIGHTS TO EVERY FRACKEN MARVEL CHARACTER YOU OWN and we'll think about it. Galactus for Avengers 2 Piece out
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hardboiled wonderland - I was thinking the same then you posted that pic, completely agree even more now! No reboot needed just a new story set in the 30's or 40's, no CGI just real stunts etc. Replacing HF could just be like the next actor playing Bond.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 7:50 a.m. CST
I sent off my crackpot Lindelof/Bird/1952 theory to Beaks and Nordling
by lv_426
The check is in the mail.
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sick with SW, he will do anything he can to get hold of the franchise. If LV426't theory is correct, it wont be a surprise if we see Abrams and maybe Orci, taking control of the upcoming SW movies. Which is a disaster but on the other hand that means that Abrams will leave the Trek franchise which is the best thing ever to happen.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 8:19 a.m. CST
Waiting for the second fall of the studio system...
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
... and please take Disney with it.
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... buy more Disney shares and effectively take over the company. Lol. The only way to take down the Empire is from the inside after all. The one closest to the Emperor is the chosen one. Go get 'em Lucas.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 8:29 a.m. CST
Putting aside Lindelof's questionable writing 'talent,' his sensibility
by Brian Hopper
is all wrong for Star Wars. I will literally start a boycott if Abrams, Lindelof, Orci and/or Kurtzman are involved with Star Wars in any way.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 8:32 a.m. CST
dont understand why everybody hates abrams. i could get with an abrams SW picture.
by Stephen
as long as its not too sequelly
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...take down Disney like Palpatine took down the Trade Federation. Now who will be his dark disciple? All hail lord Vader and the end of Disney.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 8:49 a.m. CST
Star Wars will keep sucking...Move along now nothing to see here...
by Drew
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Nov. 1, 2012, 9:23 a.m. CST
Star Wars Episode VII: Jar Jar's Movie. Written and Directed by Jason Friedberg, Aaron Seltzer
by hank henshaw
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R7S3dPCTX8 Yeah...I'm posting this in all the Star Wars talkbacks because...well I'm a sucker for attention ha. I threw this together last night. It's a little rough but it could give you an idea of what a Disney opening for a Star Wars movie might be like.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 11 a.m. CST
vadakinx -- that looks pretty much how I'd expect a Disney/Lucasfilm Star Wars opening to look like
by lv_426
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Super 8, Alcatraz, Revolution, Star Trek Code Red Mountain Dew anything I've ever seen from him outside of LOST (which was mostly created/ written by other people) has been middle of the road deriviative soap. He took Star Trek and turned it into sexy network TV circa 1992. The hate is kind of understandable.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 12:19 p.m. CST
The thing about fanboys, though, is they LOVE a sexy 1992 vibe
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Just look at those Spawn and Youngblood sales figures
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I laugh when nerds come up with things they want to see or not see in Star Wars. Ben Affleck directing! Nathan Fillion as the son of Han! Whedon should write! If Abrams does this I'm pooping on it! Thrawn! (WTF is a Thrawn?!) Keep the laughs coming boys!
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The trap has been set. We wait.
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That's my hope, that Abrams will make the next SW movies and leave ST for good, so thatthe ST franchise can go back to formula, back to how it should be. I think it's all for the best. Besides, most geeks would get an orgasm if they heard the news that Abrams was to direct a new SW movie, so everybody wins. When that happens i'll need to turn off the computer because the net will be flooded by the cum from the geeks masturbating in pure delight.
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Lindelf, Orci, Kurtzman and Abrams sensebilities were not right for Star Trek either and yet they got that gig anyway (and much to the delight of the majority of the geeks, i might add). So they getting the SW gig wouldn't be much of a suprise at all. I even think it's an inevitability. This is not about who's the best man for the job but who is the best player, and nobody is as good as the tetralogy of Lindelf, Orci, Kurtzman and Abrams. They have their hands on ST, they have their hands on the Alien franchise, they have their hands on the new Spider-Man rebooted franchise, they have their hands of the reboot of The Mummy, they have their hands on the soon to be franchise of Ender's Game, what makes you think they will not fight to get their hands on the SW franchise as well?
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They certainly have precedence for fitting Anakin into the final 3 films, considering the series has primarily been about him. Not to mention Uncle George allready retconned ROTJ to have Anakin. He would basically act as spiritual advisor to Luke in fixing all the crap he messed up and 'redeeming' himself. Hayden is the one human actor i could actually see in these films But Luke, Leia, Han and pretty much all the original characters except C-3PO and R2D@ hat show up need to be recast. On that, there is no doubt. Hamill, Fisher, and Ford can all have cameos as different throwaway characters with a fair amount of makeup, but no way do they work in their original roles. They're simply too old for any story you would want to tell. Having 7-9 take place 30 years after RoTJ would be stupid as the main narrative line is the formation of The New Republic to replace the fallen Empire with balance being brought to the force.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 6:01 p.m. CST
Scirocco, wait what?! You want Abrams to stop frakking up Star Trek and go to Star Wars instead...
by Hardboiled Wonderland
... so he can frak that up too? What makes you think he won't do to Star Wars what you think he did to Star Trek?
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But i'm quite certain he will. But my concern is for Star Trek, which needs a breeder now from the destruction that Abrams put upon it. So Abrams out of ST and in SW would be a very good thing indeed. But there is the possibility that Abrams will not be as destructive to SW as he was for ST because he genuinely loves SW, unlike ST which he even boasted he has little to no interest. The way i see it, it's a win-win situation.
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Wise Cracking Han, Wise Cracking Leia, Wise Cracking Emperor, Wise Cracking C3PO, and "witty" R2D2. We don't need Joss Whedon.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 7:11 p.m. CST
@Mr(s) lesbianna_winterlude, too late, Lucas already created them that way.
by albert comin
Whedon wouldn't do anything that wasn't already there to begin with. Only he would make them with better dialogue that sounds like it came from actual people. But don't worry, i'm quite certain your beloved Abrams will get the NuSW gig anyway, so you can rest your troubled head about that.
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It's a shame that copyright even exists anymore.
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Said it. Lucas left with dignity. Fight over the scraps, whores.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 11:55 p.m. CST
I'm a fan of Lucas, not Star Wars...
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
I hope Lucas shows some people his new personal art films, like he did when he showed people 1-3. Fuck Disney and everything they touch.
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Nov. 1, 2012, 11:59 p.m. CST
Everyone is ignoring supporters of Lucas auteur prequels.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
There are a lot of us who have been silenced the anti-auteur, pro-Studio-system community, and you will forever be blamed for the shit that Disney puts out.
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He was a rebel who started a revolution only to be attacked for it by the very fans he once had on his side. Enjoy your shit movies, you traitors, now disney will take a shit on star wars like no body has done before.
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One day the geeks will view even the prequels with longing and warm nostalgia feelings, and they will blame themselves for forcing Lucas' retirment with their too harsh opinioning. I have a felling this will come to pass. I'll see the day when the geeks will reminescent foundly on the prequels. One day.
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Yes, Lucas was his own man, for good or ill. But he was him and nobody else. A real character. With time i have warming up considerably toward the prequels, even if i was never a hater. Well, except "The Phantom Menace", i do have issues with that one. But otherwise, i never understood the criticism leveled at the other prequels. sometime si think the harsh treatment toward "Attack Of The Clones" and "Revenge Of The Sith" is more due to inertia from the bitter taste left by TPM then anything in to do with the other prequel movies. Yeah, but try to reason with the geeks about that...
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Nov. 2, 2012, 5:17 a.m. CST
There is an old saying: "Be careful for what you wish for, you just might get it".
by albert comin
The geeks were tireless about wishing Lucas away from Star Wars. And now they got their wish realized. And i fear this is a clear case of getting their wish be the very worst thing that could had happened to them. If the next SW movies turn up half as bad as i think they will be, i'll be one of the fuzzballs laughing up.
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http://www.tvsmacktalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/a_610x408.jpg Yes, great times we are living.... right!
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Nov. 2, 2012, 6:16 a.m. CST
Things Disney would never have allowed
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
Criticism of Democracy and Government A tragic hero that kills children and is then redeemed Violent rebellion against the government Real taoist underpinnings Unknowns casted John Williams scores Politicians are evil .... Pretty much everything that makes Star Wars 1-6 so great
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Nov. 2, 2012, 6:38 a.m. CST
I have told this news to everybody i know. They all laughted.
by albert comin
It's like a parody, only for real.
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There was a time when Disney had balls to do such a thing. It was that short time when they made such movies like "The Black Hole", "Tron" and specially "Dragonslayer" (which actually had the balls to mock christianity, of all things!). But that is a time long passed. We just lost the ride... by 3 decades!
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Nov. 2, 2012, 7:50 a.m. CST
this was before most of our lives but Walt Disney was a freaking SNITCH
by RoosterBooster71
He was part of the redscare that ruined careers in Hollywood. John Wayne was another who named names.
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Nov. 2, 2012, 8:23 a.m. CST
Who’s the leader of the Club that’s made for you and me? D-A-R-T-H-V-A-D-E-R!
by albert comin
The Imperial March replaced by the Mickey Mouse March, in a theater near you, Summer 2015.
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Tonight, Emperor Palpatine, in his much imitated iconic speech delivery style, will read "Three Little Pigs". Stay tuned.
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Let's hope so, because Disney's only success of late is in disposable family comedies like Wall-E, Toy Story 3 and The Avengers.
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Nov. 2, 2012, 9:26 a.m. CST
Snig and Oopla are Disney's creation
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXJHnv_SiKg Makes Phantom Menace look like Stanley Kubrick.
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Nov. 2, 2012, 9:39 a.m. CST
Give the new SW movie to the guy who directed John Carter, if JJ Abrams is too coy pretending he doesn't want it.
by albert comin
Star Wars 7, from the guy who fucked up John Carter and planetary romance SF for years to come.
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So, you guys can guess what you will have in the future of SW. Unless we walll get very lucky, beyond what we deserve, and Disney goes back to making cooler darker entertaiment like it did in the days of The Black Hole and Dragonslayer. As if we will get that lucky!
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The beginning of Christopher Nolan’s “Star Wars Episode VII: The Dark Side Rises” joins Luke Skywalker eight years after the events in Return of the Jedi. The death of the genocidal, child-murdering father Luke never knew; his tortured, secret love for his sister, and the scars from the Emperor’s force lighting torture have left Luke a shattered man. With a beard and a cane, he hobbles about his mansion on Coruscant like a disheveled Howard Hughes, having quit the Jedi Order and Rebellion after the party on the Forest Moon of Endor. However, unbeknownst to him, a clone of Darth Vader called “Vain” is about to unleash a violent revolution on Coruscant. First, Vain steals all the armored canon-cars that Luke was unknowingly making, smacks around the stock brokers, and performs a blood transfusion. He then blows up the pod-races and all the bridges out of Coruscant, trapping everyone on the… planet. His plan is to raise unemployment and then blow up the whole planet with a one of Luke’s bigger bombs. Luke meets a beautiful young thief for five minutes named Aynranda and falls in love. He confronts Vain, is badly beaten, and thrown into the Sarlacc on Tatooine, where, for about an hour, he slithers around the entrails being digested and receiving pithy, leaden exposition from Boba Fett (played by the voice of Michael Caine) who is still being eaten after all these years. He is also reunited with Han and Lando, who helps him find “the force” to climb out of the Sarlacc, and jump the ten feet to freedom. Back in Coruscant, Luke tries to raise an army, but first must free the Jedis and Younglings, who, three months prior, were each and every one of them trapped by Vain in the planet sewer, which has only one way in and one way out. Luke then flies around Coruscant trying to evade the Death Star, which is Vain’s armored truck laden with heat-seeking missiles. Luke steers the missiles into buildings, and finally gets to confront Vain in a fistfight. He is again losing badly, but Aynranda shows up suddenly with a bazooka and blows Vain up. Luke then tosses his light saber to the kid from that 70’s show. In the final scene, we see a single shot of a spaceship in space… Luke and Aynranda are heading to a giant CG castle by The Lake on Naboo, where Luke enters into a second retirement.
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Nov. 2, 2012, 3:19 p.m. CST
My Dream Star Wars TV show would be plotted by JMS but rewritten by Whedon or the Farscape showrunners
by FrodoFraggins
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Nov. 2, 2012, 3:24 p.m. CST
They should show a character that looks like Thrawn and kill him in the background
by FrodoFraggins
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Nov. 2, 2012, 4:15 p.m. CST
Forget the sequels...go back in time to before the prequels and have a new story
by Paul
The story of the prequels/originals is done. forget about trying to continue it somehow by making a sequel about their kids or some shit. Anything like that will just invite comparisons with the original cast which will never be matched at least in our hearts/minds. Start over with a new story set in the same universe. I'd like to see a Jedi origins story. The first Jedi who discovers the force. Picture Star Wars meets Batman Begins meets Matrix meets the 10 Commandments. A Biblical epic done for the Jedi religion. Get back to heavy mythology/religious tones of the OT.
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You make me feel sane in this thread...
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