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Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with today’s Behind the Scenes Pic!
Poltergeist 2 is a weird flick. In many ways it’s both a good and bad sequel. It somehow manages to be just different enough from the first film that it doesn’t feel quite right, but it’s not different enough to be its own thing. Don’t get me wrong, there is a lot to like about the movie. Kane is a creepy fucker (that actor, Julian Beck, was approximately 80% teeth), the tequila worm sequence is horrific, I love Will Sampson in the film and it’s great that the entire family unit from the first film is still intact.
But missing from the sequel is that same sense of wonder at the paranormal. In the sequel it’s something to be feared and even as a young kid I liked how successful it was as creeping me out, but really missed that awe of the other side that the first film had.
Also, how on God’s green Earth do you make a sequel to Poltergeist and don’t make Zelda Rubinstein the star? Huge missed opportunity there.
Anyway, one of the successes of the sequel was the design work by HR Giger. It’s quite a great move on the part of the filmmakers to involve him so heavily and his fingerprints are all over the movie.
Today’s picture is one of Giger’s creations, the big creepy bastard from the end, brought to life by Boss Film Studios. Thanks once again to Dimitar Dimitrov and the Practical Effects Group.
If you have a behind the scenes shot you’d like to submit to this column, you can email me at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Tomorrow’s pic is an aerial view of a classic monster movie set.
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Oct. 27, 2012, 5:29 p.m. CST
Oct. 27, 2012, 5:32 p.m. CST
The ending sucked, because of the greenscreen. I believe, this is where CGI Became Mainstream, and ruined these types of effects in the future. Nevermind George Lucas, This is what raped my Childhood. Great movie up until, the END. Oh well.
Oct. 27, 2012, 5:43 p.m. CST
Oct. 27, 2012, 5:44 p.m. CST
Oct. 27, 2012, 5:50 p.m. CST
by Thunderbolt Ross
God is innnnnnnnn his holy temmmm-PUHL ...
Oct. 27, 2012, 5:56 p.m. CST
Quint, not trying to bust balls... but, Dana was not in 2. R.I.P. Dominique Dunne.
Oct. 27, 2012, 6:01 p.m. CST
A difficult second outing, but boasts some freakish sequences - The vommiting scene especially. Also Mr. Goldsmith stepping up to the podium and giving the film some dignity. Still, it does have the mighty Will Sampson in Shaman Priest mode . Big fan of that dude - would watch him in anything. The man just went too early. Damn! the Poltergeist flicks were cursed.
Oct. 27, 2012, 6:22 p.m. CST
This is one of those where the creators did things cuz they thought it would look cool but didn't make a lick of sense. For instance: Why would disembodied beings need to use a chainsaw to make their way into the car the family is hiding in? They're GHOSTS! Couldn't they just, I dunno, just go through the window/roof/trunk/exhaust pipe? I mean, if they planned to KILL the family, fine. But that's not what they wanted. So why waste your ghostly energy on levitating power tools when you can just go in. Or did the Native American guy cast a charm on the car?
Oct. 27, 2012, 7:12 p.m. CST
theres just something about it thats both mesmerizing and terrifying.
Oct. 27, 2012, 7:57 p.m. CST
The tequila worm scene, the kid cocooned in wire, Julian Beck's near-death performance...all undone by the worst possible *glowing together in a cloud tank* finale.
That motion control shot of Heather O'Rourke having the life sucked out of her was chilling and prophetic. Though, if you read the novelization of POLTERGEIST back in the day (an early tie-in based on the script) there is a section where Diane is looking for Carol Anne on the ethereal side like that. Top notch Goldsmith score, as mentioned above and, yes, this one should have been Zelda Rubenstein's show all the way!
Oct. 27, 2012, 8:06 p.m. CST
Dunne missing is difficult to ignore - the death of her and Heather probably still affect the principal actors to some extent.
Oct. 27, 2012, 8:24 p.m. CST
The Tequila worm scene is absolutely one of the best horror scenes. the ending is definitely one of the worst ever
Oct. 27, 2012, 8:39 p.m. CST
Can we please get the longer cut of this on blu-ray with the extra scene of Kane visiting the house? Thank you!
Oct. 27, 2012, 8:54 p.m. CST
Those are traditional optical composites you're looking at there.
Oct. 27, 2012, 9:04 p.m. CST
Is just how abrupt it feels. They go to the underground cave... all seems well, and then suddenly the mom and Carol Anne are sucked into.. the ceiling? Then they hear the Indian chanting and... jump into the fire?!? And now everyone is in the ethereal plane?!? WTF is going on here!? Then the creepy but obviously a puppet creature comes stop-motioning it's way up to the floating family, where...something happens that allows them to kill it. And then they're back in the real world, which ends on a semi-sentient car joke. All in all, it is a fairly entertaining movie, but it still feels like the equivalent to the CLOSE ENCOUNTERS: SPECIAL EDITION where they felt they had to show "the other side". I don't know... maybe it should have been darker instead of being so sunsetty bright?
Oct. 27, 2012, 9:15 p.m. CST
It's never gonna happen but a special edition release of this with some tweaks to the ending could make it great.
Oct. 27, 2012, 9:32 p.m. CST
by Angry Mike
You might have read about it on the news back then.
Oct. 27, 2012, 10:12 p.m. CST
by I am_NOTREAL
And remember thinking it was pretty good. I recall the Sneak Previews review, Lyons and Medved, one of them dogging the movie because it included too much material from the original. But there were hardly any flashbacks outside of one scene, which made it apparent to me that those guys hadn't seen the film and was the beginning of my realization that a lot of critics are completely full of shit.
Oct. 27, 2012, 11:07 p.m. CST
This movie is ridiculous. It has several good scenes, and Julian Beck is really, really creepy. But as has been pointed out, the entire ending of this is a mess. Especially the tacked-on scene where Taylor the magic Indian takes the family car and leaves them there, which I guess is supposed to wacky and light-hearted but just seems weird. And yes, the absence of Dominique Dunne is noticeable simply because they never mention her. All they had to do was say something like "she's off at college!" Instead they just act like she never existed...
Oct. 27, 2012, 11:30 p.m. CST
Of course, most things are relative, how could a sequel satisfy without disappointing on some level? But it's blatantly obvious how much better a director Spielberg is in marshaling the elements of his original idea, compared to the British TV director that was Brian Gibson, and the sub-par writers left to their own devices that were Grais/Victor. (If you still believe Hooper directed numero uno, then you weren't paying attention.) I agree that the vomit-creature scene was horrific, that Kane was a great character, that Sampson brought the film a certain dignity, that Goldsmith somehow improved upon his original score and, like John Williams with "Jaws 2", lent the film a richer spectacle than it deserved. But the negatives were far too great to take this film seriously in light of what the first one established. --The "family" dynamics feel pasted onto the actors this go-round. The rapey feeling of the vomit scene between husband and wife felt really, really inappropriate and beneath this family. --The second layer of reasoning for this new round of hauntings--- "Oh, wait, it wasn't the moved cemetary bodies, now it's some Brigham Young/Jim Jones type chap underneath the bodies? Make up your fucking mind." And on this note, if the ghosts can follow you anywhere as laid down in this sequel--like, to Arizona--why was the house haunting important in the first place? That plot point alone basically invalidates the first movie's conceit. --Random poltergeist activity in this film is handled stupidly, whereas all of it in the original feels endemic to the characters within the house. The haunted children's closet/bedroom. The dining table chairs moving. The steak (what's a more middle-class suburban meal than that?) leading to the face ripping (meat anyone?). Falling ancient watches. The closet desires to eat you whole or leads to your death (a great comment on consumerism if there ever was one, almost equal to "Dawn of the Dead"). Instead, in this, we get dumb instances of shit coming to life that really doesn't comment on anything. Orthodontistry gone wild? A chainsaw? --And the biggest crime? The family unit is so horribly written that even these brilliant adult actors can't overcome its ham-handedness. --The ending sucks beyond words. Know why? The budget of the film was slashed by 25% just before the film went into production so bye-bye special effects and sensible conclusion. --The humour is forced and unnatural, especially from Craig T Nelson. Ending this film on a crap joke about a car is an atrocious creative decision. --Zelda is terrible and wedged in for nostalgia's sake. --I kept wondering where all that light was coming from in the underground cave. Did somebody leave a 10K behind? --I could name another 10 things but I'm too tired and this film isn't worth it.
Oct. 28, 2012, 2:23 a.m. CST
Oct. 28, 2012, 2:26 a.m. CST
Then U hate the living daylights out of Part sucks!
Oct. 28, 2012, 3:53 a.m. CST
And he had this personal space issue. Always talking to you one step too close to you. He creeped us right the fuck out.
Oct. 28, 2012, 4:35 a.m. CST
by Righteous Brother
All they got a key to is the shit house.
Oct. 28, 2012, 5:09 a.m. CST
He actually said in an interview that the Alien Queen would have been preferable - he loves the Alien Queen.
Oct. 28, 2012, 5:50 a.m. CST
Oct. 28, 2012, 7:56 a.m. CST
That creepy priest was actually dying in real life as they shot this. They all knew that it would be part of the reason why it would work so well. His appearance was no special effect.
Oct. 28, 2012, 8:19 a.m. CST
by John Brown
Oct. 28, 2012, 9:18 a.m. CST
John Thomas Sweeney aka John Maura. Piece of shit got only 2.5 years and showed no remorse. http://www.franksreelreviews.com/shorttakes/dunne.htm
Oct. 28, 2012, 11:31 a.m. CST
by doom master
Um...Well...Obviously. At some point.
Oct. 28, 2012, 11:32 a.m. CST
by doom master
It looks like the Alien Queen, only melted in an oven....
Oct. 28, 2012, 11:50 a.m. CST
by doom master
Oct. 28, 2012, 12:29 p.m. CST
we made the whole audience laugh out loud. I love the first Poltergeist. Saw it 5 times in the theater as a 7th grader. But this one? Don't like it.
Oct. 28, 2012, 12:35 p.m. CST
Oct. 28, 2012, 7:52 p.m. CST
The Dad becomes evil, alcoholic Dad, and then he goes looking for his young daughter. Nicely touches on a sensitive societal nerve.
The Native Indian man then cleanses the Dad from the grips of the evil fire water.
Oct. 28, 2012, 9:43 p.m. CST
but for the life of me I can barely remember any a thing about it.
Oct. 28, 2012, 10:07 p.m. CST
I'm saying, this is when studios, decided, they didn't give a fuck, and slam it down our collective throats.
Oct. 29, 2012, 12:48 a.m. CST
What's with the multi-paragraph responses? Just type a normal paragraph like the rest of us. Why the need to take up so much space?
Oct. 29, 2012, 2:01 a.m. CST
I feel, it's easy on the eyes.
Oct. 29, 2012, 3:43 a.m. CST
It looks like a grocery list, and usually in a list, each new line or paragraph includes a new thought or category. Yours are usually one thought spread across several lines. To each his own, I guess. I'll just skip yours; no sweat off your back, right?
Oct. 29, 2012, 4:07 a.m. CST
It IS Easy on the Eyes.
Oct. 29, 2012, 4:10 a.m. CST
Oct. 29, 2012, 7:54 a.m. CST
by Mikey Wood
...hadn't seen it since it was on HBO waaaayyy back when. Barely remembered any of it. I'm a big fan of the first and found this to be a worthy sequel in that it fits in well with the other. I would have loved some more flashbacky stuff with Rev. Kane and the final effects scene was REALLY cheesy, but as far as sequels go, it wasn't bad at all. Spielberg's presense is sorely missed (even though Toby Hooper is credited with directing the first, it's so clearly a Spielberg film).
Oct. 29, 2012, 10:47 a.m. CST
phantomcreepsreturns - your timeframe is not incorrect. Polt 2 came out the summer of '86. Six months prior to that
was when Young Sherlock Holmes was released, with what is considered the first actual use of CGI in a major motion picture, the stained glass figure. Although there was still a bit lapse between this and the waterpod in The Abyss.
Oct. 29, 2012, 11:22 a.m. CST
by Mikey Wood
...need I remind you of TRON (1982) and, prior to that, WESTWORLD (1973) which used a vector graphic for the "robo-vision". Speaking of time: The ONE mistake POLTERGEIST 2 made that is absolutely inexcusable was Tangina showing a photograph of Kane and Kane's congregation. Kane's group perished in the 1820's. Photgraphy wasn't invented until the late 1830's. Research, people.
Oct. 29, 2012, 11:50 a.m. CST
Oct. 29, 2012, 12:29 p.m. CST
mikeywood - yeah, also didn't think of the Genesis effect flyover in Star Trek 2, which was released before Tron,
and The Last Starfighter which came out a couple of years later.
Oct. 29, 2012, 4:58 p.m. CST
by Darth Macchio
Would you believe Donald "Duck" Dunn?
Oct. 29, 2012, 6:09 p.m. CST
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