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Hercules Says The Best Thing You’re Going To Watch This Week Is Friday’s NBC Bryan Fuller Pilot MOCKINGBIRD LANE!!

Published at: Oct. 26, 2012, 12:43 p.m. CST by hercules

I am – Hercules!!

Though it’s somehow not yet greenlit to series, “Mockingbird Lane” is easily the best and funniest pilot I’ve seen this year.

The blueprint for a new hourlong from Bryan Fuller, creator of “Dead Like Me,” “Wonderfalls” and "Pushing Daisies,"  “Mockingbird Lane” is a lot darker and a lot sharper than “The Munsters,” the series on which it’s based. Also a lot more violent. The big gags in the original 1964 series tended to deal with the genial Herman’s monstrous appearance. The new series is more concerned with the murderous Grandpa’s appetite for his neighbors.

(It’s interesting that Fuller’s other current NBC project, the midseason “Silence of the Lambs” prequel “Hannibal,” also centers on a character who likes to eat the people he kills.)

The strongest scenes deal with the imperious Dracula’s bloodlust and human granddaughter Marilyn’s efforts to maintain a tenuous truce between the vampire and humanity. Grandpa and granddaughter are played by British imports Eddie Izzard (“United States of Tara”) and Charity Wakefield (“The Raven”), and they both far outperform expectations here.

I’m also highly enamored of the Munsters’ mansion’s hilariously appalling history, nearly as grim and grisly as Granmpa’s.

Herman is played with a lot more intelligence and a lot less makeup by Jerry O’Connell. He’s still perhaps best known as the fat kid in “Stand By Me” and as the love interest in many episodes of “Crossing Jordan”; if NBC produces more “Mockingbird,” that’s likely to change. Every time Herman’s reanimated monster heart breaks figuratively, it also breaks literally. Happily there’s a massive zipper embedded in Herman’s chest that makes it easy for Grandpa to effect repairs.

Portia de Rossi makes a far more fetching Lily (wife of Herman; daughter of Dracula) that did Yvonne DeCarlo. (De Rossi is actually closer in hotness to Joan Marshall, who played Jim Kirk’s old love in “Court Martial” and Herman’s wife Phoebe in the original, unaired “Munsters” pilot.) De Rossi has a great scene carefully counseling son Eddie with hints regarding his bloody heritage (and emerging lycanthropy).

Eddie is played by a real find -- “Spy Kids 4” star Mason Cook, who sells his material as few other pre-teens could. (Yes, I’m looking at you, “Walking Dead” regular Chandler Riggs.)

(Fans of “Wonderfalls” and “Daisies” may be excited to learn Beth Grant again seems to be reprising the role of unlucky Marianne Marie Beattle, now the Munsters’ tactless new neighbor.)

Director Bryan Singer (“Apt Pupil,” “X-Men,” “Valkyrie” and the “House” pilot), working with a $10 million budget, nails the comedy and some spectacularly eye-catching CGI to boot. I love the music generally, and Wakefiend’s brief mockingbird serenade in particular.

This is not a lesser Fuller effort. If you perceived the greatness of the first episodes of “Dead Like Me,” “Wonderfalls” and/or “Pushing Daisies,” I highly, highly endorse the drive up.

8 p.m. Friday. NBC.

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  • Oct. 26, 2012, 12:52 p.m. CST

    So O'Connel sucks then?

    by Redhead_Redemption

    Just wondering Herc why he would be recast if the pilot went to series?

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Um, far more fetching Lily?

    by BackwardGalaxy

    Than Yvonne De Carlo? I hope you just mean by the way they are having her play the part. Yvonne was gorgeous.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Sorry try again..

    by niven

    Best thing I've seen this week is Skyfall and it's likely to stay that way...take Fullers dick out of your mouth this looks terrible.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 1:05 p.m. CST

    I have loved Fuller's other shows

    by chuckmoose

    so I will be watching this.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Herc seems to forget a little show callled...

    by deadhouse gates

    SLIDERS! Easily the best O Connell work...

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Izzard

    by DangerMan

    The reviews say only Izzard nails it and shows what the show could have been, which is not surprising as he's the most gifted cast member.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 1:13 p.m. CST

    $10 million budget? for a pilot? That may not go to series?

    by rakesh patel

    seriously? I may watch it just to see where the money went.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Herc's been going about this show for months

    by glenn_the_frog

    Reporting it as news when... no one cares. He's got some weird crazy bias for this thing. If someone is a friend or if he's being paid, I dunno... but no one writes three articles about the Munsters reboot in a week where there's Hobbit news, Cloud Atlas coming out and Skyfall around the corner. But hey, this is the guy that pushes SNL every week like its still relevant and constantly mis-informs and makes up stories about Dr. Who to cash in on Merrick's high-post count Docbacks.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 1:30 p.m. CST

    I loved Pushing Daisies so I'm willing to give it a shot.

    by Wcwlkr

    Seems insanely weird to me, but because of Fuller I'm willing to give it a chance.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Chandler Riggs

    by Mike2D

    Great review Herc. Looking forward to this show. But ahh... Chandler's just a kid. Not his fault the writers aren't giving him good material, or that he's not as developed as an actor. He did well first season because all he needed to be was to act like a normal kid. Now everyone's expecting more from him as he gets older, and he may just be having a hard time catching up. If you have to blame someone, blame the producers for not thinking long term with his character and about whether or not he could handle the challenge. They must have saw something in him at the time (his look/ voice, whatever) and figured he would become a better actor the more he did it. As you know not all child actors are the same when it comes to developing their acting. But as far as I'm concerned, he's just a kid doing the best he can. He gets a free pass in my book for not being as accomplished as an actor. Cut him some slack is all I'm saying.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 1:43 p.m. CST

    AICN worships the shows of the great God Fuller.

    by Smerdyakov

    Until they're cancelled.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Serious doubts, but will check it out

    by Freddy

    As with Wonderfalls, which wasn't bad but hardly great, Herc's objectivity where Bryan Fuller is concerned must be questioned. But Fuller + Singer + O'Connell? Worth a look.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 2:05 p.m. CST

    The problem with this remake...(WARNING! Major Rant Forthcoming!)

    by iamatroll

    While not having seen "Mockingbird" in its entirety start to finish, I've seen and read enough of the substance of this would-be-series-to-one-shot-tv-movie to understand one thing: The powers that be, whomever they are, really have no clue at all about what made "The Munsters" such a beloved and treasured part of Classic TV lore. Granpa is cannibalistic? Herman has no makeup? Someone is even more "fetching," as you call it, then Yvonne DeCarlo as Lily? So much manure, so little need for fertilizer. Here's the deal: Hollywood and the entertainment industry at large went conceptually bankrupt a long time ago. Anyone over the age of 25 understands this all too well. Movies have been recycled, tv shows have been recycled, music has been recycled. The only problem is, with each medium recycling it's wares, the renewed and reconfigured product, while being huckstered as "new and improved' is woefully lacking in quality, and is a poor imitation of the original source material. Don't believe me? Then how did you feel about the recent reboots/reimaginings/whatever of "Total Recall" "Footloose" "Miami Vice" etc. at the theaters? It holds true for TV programs, real quality TV programs if you can find any besides the endless reality show/singing competition bullcrap cluttering up the airwaves. 1313 Mockingbird Lane is yet another example of shortcut to thinking strategy of what to put on the tube to entertain people. It's the same with music. At one time, if a person or a group wanted to be successful, they had to put in the proverbial blood, sweat and tears to get there. Not so by today standards. If some would be pop icon isn't being HANDED a recording contract on TV for winning a karaoke contest, then the same said person or group are taking the shortcut to stardom just for having a catchy video on YouTube. Gone are the days of suffering for your art, and pride in your craft. Once upon a time, not so long ago, you had to pay your dues in the music industry. That meant starting in the little bars and taverns in your town, then working through small venues, pressing the flesh, attaining a following, and just maybe, if you're lucky, you might catch the eye of someone in the recording industry. But in today's world of instant gratification, it's a rise to notoriety you can time with and eggtimer. It's also a career that ends with the same amount of time, just for the record. And so it goes. As technology advances, the inclination to use your brain, and not your hard drive, decreases. You know, the last thing I ever wanted to do was wind up sounding the way my father used to sound when he would rant about the world that was changing around him, but here I am, saying pretty much everything he said when I was young. But you know what? The old man, God bless him, was right after all. The world really IS going to hell in a handbasket. Most of America can't see that though, cause they're too busy with Facebook and Twitter to give a damn. As for me, I think I'll stick to my old entertainement, thank you very much. You can have the "new era" of movies, tv and music. Me, I'll take Fred Gwynn and Al Lewis over "Mockingbird" any day of the week. Sorry this rant was so long, but I've had this in my craw for a while now. Just needed to vent. Thanks for listening. Rant over.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 2:06 p.m. CST

    I fapped to Yvonne DeCarlo LOTS of times

    by 3D-Man

    Portia de Rossi? Only once or twice.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Jerry O'Connell's greatest role was in...

    by mtoast

    ... My Secret Identity. Or at least it was a role. Cheesy Canadian TV series of the early 90s count, right? Google it.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Chandler Riggs

    by Freddy

    Agree with mike2d. Chandler does far better than most ... When any actor of any age doesn't knock me out of the scene, I call it a job well done. Not like the kid's being given Natalie Portman's scenes from the Professional and being told to run with 'em ... if you've read the comic, Carl's arc is sort of a slow burn. As with any young actor, he's got to hone his craft. But he doesn't need to be called out like that on a site he may well be a fan of. Don't make me compare Chandler's acting to Harry's grammar. You'll lose.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 2:15 p.m. CST

    redhead_redemption

    by Ravyn

    I think Herc is saying that O'Connell will be better remembered for Mockingbird Lane than for Stand By Me and Crossing Jordan, so it's actually a compliment that was slightly lost in word choice and sentence structure. I, for one, have the DVR set to record this.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 2:17 p.m. CST

    $10 million budget

    by jim

    I'm guessing it's not uncommon for shows to have exorbitant spending for the pilot episode. Sets need to be built, costumes created, screen tests galore for what works and what doesn't (costumes, effects, actors, etc). The you get the cost of re-shoots to fine-tune it.

  • So you feel the guy who covers TV should be putting up articles, in AICN's TV section, about upcoming movies?

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 2:22 p.m. CST

    @glenn_the_frog to be fair, herc is the tv guy

    by rakesh patel

    he doesn't do the film stuff.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 2:24 p.m. CST

    @mtoast his greatest role was in silders

    by rakesh patel

    and I never thought of him as captain marvel until i watched the superman /shazam short.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 2:26 p.m. CST

    And if its something funny you want to watch this week

    by rakesh patel

    go here spend $5 http://billburr.com/merch and download Bill Burrs latest standup. "You People Are All the Same" I guarantee you it will be the funniest thing you see all week.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 2:30 p.m. CST

    p.s.

    by rakesh patel

    don't be an ass and torrent. he's a one man band not a huge fucking corporation. $5 is fuck all.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Sliders

    by deadhouse gates

    If only someone had already said his greatest role was in Sliders, hrmmmmmmmm

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Also re: Chandler

    by deadhouse gates

    If his aim is to get everyone rooting for his death every episode, he deserves the emmy to infinity and beyond

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 2:35 p.m. CST

    @deadhousegates apologies.

    by rakesh patel

    regards Rembrandt Brown the crying man

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 2:39 p.m. CST

    I will be downloading this

    by theGoldbergV

    Fuller gets a free pass from me for Pushing Daisies. Loved that show. Emerson Cod and his love of pop up books makes me smile just thinking about it.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 2:49 p.m. CST

    @ iamatroll

    by lock67ca

    Nail hit firmly on head and driven home with force.

  • Not that he'll lose the job.

  • Not that he'll lose the job.

  • If Herc's only job is tv, and that all he's supposed to do, then why does he so often have giant catalogs of dvd releases... not just of tv series releases, but mostly of movies? Without any commentary on them really, just a giant list of amazon links to help his personal bank account? This is aside from randomly speculating there's a doctor who movie in production... which he's done at least three times... or all the times he makes political columns? Or his "HERCULES ON THE RADIO!!" bit from last week? (which was ALSO for Mockingbird Lane. hrm?) I suppose hating Leno and finding any excuse to bash him falls under the tv category at least. TV may be his main area, but he goes outside it plenty.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST

    @ mr_x_

    by mtoast

    Well, at least we agree that his greatest role was on a show filmed in Canada. Funny how many of those alternate realities looked just like Vancouver.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Nice work iamatroll

    by alan_poon

    Best post i've read in quite some time. Just wish Fuller would have brought back Dead Like Me instaed of this. One of my all time favourite shows and I'm not including that shitty film they made.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 4:12 p.m. CST

    O'Connel's best work?

    by Dasinfogod

    Carpoolers! Marmaduke bowed before Laird...

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 4:22 p.m. CST

    I love Fuller, but this is sacrilegious

    by rsswope

    why turn a tomato into a potato. They are only similar in name only.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Soooo......Herc.....

    by kongoman

    I was just wondering....not that I really care, but I guess since you're someone who would know. How does Bryan Fuller's ass taste?

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 4:39 p.m. CST

    And what's with the sly digs at the original?

    by alan_poon

    The Munsters came from a different era and was far more family orientated than this looks. Oh and leave off Yvonne De Carlo too.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 4:42 p.m. CST

    It is moments like this that I relate with the jihadists.

    by the Green Gargantua

    just sayin

  • Look again - the weekly DVD column is mostly TV shows, not movies. Sure, every article he posts has movie links (among others) at the bottom, but that's basically advertising. I don't recall ever seeing a Hercules article relating to a Doctor Who movie in the Coaxial section. However, speculating about a movie based on TV show in the TV section is kind of a grey area. An argument can be made for both sides of whether or not it belongs here over the main area. Political columns, as much as I hate them and think they've done more harm to this site than good, are linked to television (who's on what show tonight, debates, etc.). But, yeah, if we never ever saw one of those ever again, I'd be one ecstatic TBer. Hercules on the radio talks about both movies and TV shows. The TB for that is more suited to the Coaxial section, I would assume, because Hercules is "The TV Guy" and it's one less thing to clutter up the Cool News section. He's AICN's TV contributor, and he's on that show, so it makes perfect sense to put that article in the TV section of this site. I'm sure he'll be discussing "The Hobbit", "Cloud Atlas", and "Skyfall" on upcoming radio shows, of which there'll be a TB, so, there, you got your wish (sort of). But that's the extent, I assume, of what's expected of him talking about those movies (and others). This site's other contributors will take care of providing articles and reviews of those films. Hercules may weigh in now and again, the occasional overlap, but to do so on a regular basis would, I think, be stepping on several toes. They do that, he does this. I don't expect to see movie articles in the Coaxial section, just as I don't expect to see TV articles in the Cool News section. Hercules may be running an inordinate number of "Mockingbird Lane" articles but saying he should be posting articles relating to movies instead misses the point of what his main function is, and, more importantly, what this section of AICN is dedicated to.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Perhaps Carl's not supposed to be a genius

    by oisin5199

    I think Herc is over-generalizing children's roles, as if there's a stock "kid" role. Carl is obviously a very different kid than Eddie, who looks like he's more bookish and intelligent, whereas Carl is much more rough around the edges. I think Briggs does a good job with the character as written - I certainly don't think he stands out as Anakin-bad or anything. I think picking on a child actor is a bit low anyway. Iamatroll, we've heard it all before. Hollywood is creatively bankrupt, remakes and reboots are killing the industry, blah blah blah. Just because something is a new take on an older story, doesn't mean it's bad by nature. Most "original" stuff is ripping off the same old formulas anyway. I mean the Munsters itself was a "reimagining" of Universal monsters in a family setting. Most of the humor of that show was based on our cultural connection to movie monsters. People keep acting like The Munsters is some sacred cow that can't be touched. I loved the Munsters when I was a kid, think it's theme song is probably one of the best tv songs ever. But there are plenty of new ways to tell that story and I'm looking forward to Fuller's take. Now, I wonder if Beth Grant will bring them muffins!!! (or will she question Marilyn's commitment to Sparkle Motion?)

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Stop your whining and watch the show. Then you can whine.

    by mistergreen

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Thanks for deleting my comment.

    by Steve Rogers

    I guess you can't take criticism at all. That's too bad. Like I said, I've see this and it's garbage. And your praise of it reeks of either favortism or that you've been bought off by someone and it's really disappointing.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 5:49 p.m. CST

    iamatroll, what'd you think of The Thing (1982)?

    by jim

    Cape Fear (1991)? Scarface (1983)? The Magnificent Seven (1960)? Remakes are nothing new. It's not the recycling of ideas that is to blame, but the way films are (for the most part) made these days. Film studios are the bastard children of multi-national corporations where the bottom-line rules; where focus groups and demographics and synergy and alternate revenue streams take precedence over creativity. But that's not to say the industry is completely devoid of creativity. It's just harder to find these days. As for "Miami Vice", I always say I would have liked it a lot more had it not been called something else. Going into it I brought some baggage with me. I didn't hate the movie, it just wasn't what I was expecting. I'll try to view this show without baggage. I'm not going to watch it as an attempt at a Munsters remake; rather I'll be watching it as something inspired by the classic show. More of an homage than a modernization. You know, you can have both the old and the new. If you find, after watching it, you don't like the new, you still have the old. That is the beauty of the remake. Sure, many don't live up to the original. But now and again you get a good one. In this regard I'm something of an optimist. I'll wade through the plethora of mediocre to awful remakes just to find that exception to the rule. Because a well done movie (or TV show), regardless of its pedigree, is worth experiencing.

  • should be "I would have liked it a lot more had it been called something else." d'oh! Had it not been called "Miami Vice" I could have accepted it for what it was rather than expecting it to be something it wasn't.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 6:26 p.m. CST

    I liked the clips I saw and will watch, but....

    by grendel69

    ...have to say Portia's Lily didnt really do it for me. Remaining open minded and will be watching tonight.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 6:40 p.m. CST

    ive seen all the clips for this munsters show and all r terrible.

    by vulturess

    tone deaf scenes + predictable tongue in cheek dialog. i read one review that stated it was more like an addams family movie which made me wonder why they didnt just do an addams family tv show. and we make all the characters look more human but we keep spot the dragon. makes /sense.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 7:18 p.m. CST

    Portia de Rossi's face for a Special Effects Emmy!

    by Beebop

    She's more plastic than person now.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 7:26 p.m. CST

    I know Jerry best from My Secret Identity....

    by Shermdawg

    ...and Ollie Hopnoodle's Haven of Bliss.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Terrible...

    by redfern

    Just awful. The Munsters Today was better than this shit.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Yvonne De Carlo was indeed beautiful.

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Maybe her Lily isn't more "fetching" but I don't think we were supposed to find her attractive in the original Munsters? Marilyn was the fetching one.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Mockingbird lane...

    by adml_shake

    I thought it was pretty good. Certainly better than a lot of other shit on TV.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 8:20 p.m. CST

    Entertaining, doomed

    by P. David

    This was actually pretty good. It's the first time I've laughed during a TV network comedy in years. But there is no way in hell it will ever get picked up—ever.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 8:32 p.m. CST

    Wait...

    by P. David

    Apparently it was canceled before the pilot aired.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Loved it.

    by eric haislar

    I would def watch if it goes to series. Thought It was a interesting take on the munsters.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 8:56 p.m. CST

    not cancelled yet

    by Hercules

    NBC has ordered addtional first season scripts. Cast holding deals expire in January so we'll know by then whether or not the network wants to take Mockingbird to series.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 9:10 p.m. CST

    $10 million dollar budget?!

    by Bass Ackwards

    Holy crap, it does seem a bit of surprise to not see this greenlit with that kind of investment. Especially seeing that the pilot seems to have mostly positive reviews, I wonder why the cold feet?

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Herc that was snarky man

    by Amfpsych

    You ripped that kid in an article about another kid you were praising. Blindside!

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Why aren't Bryan Fuller shows given a better shot?

    by Drath

    And why, when they almost are, do they not succeed when they are so goddamned good and so much inferior things like Hawaii Five-O get so many episodes/seasons? There is something very very wrong with the system. I guess it's always been wrong, but I'm so tired of it now.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Wow

    by P. David

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 9:22 p.m. CST

    Not canceled yet?

    by P. David

    Wow... I can't believe this show has an actual chance. It's original, extremley dark, and genuinely funny. Let's hope the pilot got good ratings.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Since this is a Bryan Fuller show

    by thepoohguy

    Which character is gay?

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 10:17 p.m. CST

    PLEASE nbc, put the episode online!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by j2talk

    damn dvr lost power.....

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Herc THIS WAS NOT THE BEST THING I WATCHED THIS WEEK OR

    by mackmm

    ...even the top 20 of what I have seen all season...& this season isn't doing that well. 1. It couldn't find a charming middleground: The show veered from morbidly gory to light-hearted....poorly. 2. Eddie & Charity pulled it off, the rest of the cast could have been replaced. O'Connell & Portia seem to be the go-to stock actors. Both were wallpaper & lacked dimension. 3. The plot moved along quickly but the comedic pace was way too slow. If they had sped up Grandpa's quips it would have been the sharp comedy you say it was. 4. When I picked my imaginary cast of the Munsters I picked Portia long before the series was announced. Why, becuase she can pull off funny & she looks like Lily. The makers when casting obviously agreed. So what do they do, they make her look like Portia in a wig, nothing like the original and the straight man of the show. 5. CGI and House were good. 6. I was surprised to see that most of the non morbid comedy ended up being 1 dimensional reactions shots. I say I was surprised because I remember them saying it wasn't going to be a comedy. 7. The Neighbors pulled off a better blend of dark humor, weird and suburbia, and that show has a ways to go. I love Fuller & I love the Munsters but I am really glad NBC put the breaks on this.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Izzard

    by Ian

    was FANTASTIC.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 10:29 p.m. CST

    the "breaks" aren't on yet...

    by deadhouse gates

    jack

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 10:33 p.m. CST

    I really doubt Herc's been bought off. However...

    by OutsideChance

    ...Herc has an insane amount of fidelity to creators who did a show he liked (ex: Fuller, Whedon, Lorne Michaels), even if no one else cares...or the current output isnt that good. The opposite can also be true. That overly opinionated, highly partisan (not just in the political sense) attitude isn't that different than a lot of the readers here (ex: the TBer wars over Avengers v DKR). The difference, of course, is that Herc is one of the people who actually run the site. I personally think its off putting but I don't think it's at all unethical (though, given he says he's written for TV/movies an argument could be made that he should use a real name to remove any doubt).

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 10:48 p.m. CST

    Jerry O'Connell did pretty decent in this

    by thelordofhell

    There were some times when it looked like his right arm was different than his left. I don't know whether it was CG or him sloping, but it put a nice touch on his Herman, pieced together person.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 10:50 p.m. CST

    Portia de Rossi is always just incredibly gorgeous

    by thelordofhell

    Ellen's a lucky woman..............

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 10:51 p.m. CST

    Eddie Izzard is trying too hard..........

    by thelordofhell

    Maybe in later episodes, if there are any, he will tone it down a little.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 10:52 p.m. CST

    Charity Wakefield does a great Marilyn Monroe impression

    by thelordofhell

    That's all you could ask of her to do..........

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Fred Gwynne or GTFO

    by ScudPuppy

    I'm sorry but there was nothing better...and did you say "utes"? The fact that he and Don Knotts are no longer on this earth is very disheartening

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 11:05 p.m. CST

    Also as far as Lilly goes...

    by ScudPuppy

    beers-n-broads.tumblr.com/post/11062672655/imagine-the-ratings-if-lily-munster-wore-this-all

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 11:05 p.m. CST

    Hmmm...

    by DangerMan

    Izzard and Charity were standouts and provided the only laughs. It’s obviously very much Tim Burton’s style and might have played better as a half hour since the second half meandered. Still, better than other shows that made the schedule like the ordinary “Chicago Fire.” Glad this showed this.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 11:27 p.m. CST

    Herc Was Right.

    by Sean

    Mockingbird Lane was fantastic. Easily the best new TV show I've seen this season. NBC won't turn it into a series ... but they should. It was dark, funny, smart, inventive, heartfelt ... absolutely loved it.

  • Doubt it.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 1:01 a.m. CST

    Herc's Usual Article for Poor-Rated shows he dislikes:

    by Nintendarth

    Say things like: The unloved, unpopular & universally-disliked conservative P.O.S. series got dismal ratings and is likely to be cancelled any time now... etc.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 1:14 a.m. CST

    That was terrible

    by solvseus

    I don't know what you're talking about, and I'm usually not just some random hater, but that was seriously terrible. Even ignoring the source material, I can't see watching this regularly. Normally I like most of the people involved too, but this was terrible. Just terrible.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 3:32 a.m. CST

    I really enjoyed it!

    by Kirbymanly

    I was pleasantly surprised but would give it a few notes: 1) de Rossi needs to be replaced. There's ZERO chemistry between her and O'Connell. My vote? Diora Baird. 2) I can't believe I chose O'Connell over de Rossi. He was shockingly good. 3) Marylin needs to be replaced as well. The actress plays her like a dead-eyed, Wednesday Addams but then... dead-eyed chipper. She's very awkward. I'm not saying make her a Valley Girl but at least make her less weird and simply a defender of her family within the "normal" world. That dynamic worked on the original show and it could work here too.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 3:43 a.m. CST

    I thought i wa "Heart" warming

    by bmoviestar

    I thought it was a clever dark update and i loved the original Eddie Izzard and Portia de Rossi steal it

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 3:44 a.m. CST

    by bmoviestar

    meant was lol

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 4:53 a.m. CST

    Funny? Owes more to Burton's Dark Shadows

    by Kenny8

    Singer has the same feel for The Munsters as he did for Donner's Superman...None. Not to mention it has Singer's trademark dull digital look, and at only 39 minutes, it drags. I await Len Wiseman's Mummy for the next installment of Universal crapping on it's once great legacy

  • Because crappy CGI and a rubbery Man-bat costume, that's forever......I know what people will still think of when you say Munsters in a few years time

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 5:02 a.m. CST

    Watched it I'll Pass.

    by rakesh patel

    Just not my kind of thing, although agree all the cast were excellent in their roles. i managed a half arsed snort rather then laugh. if you're a fan of once upon a time / grimm etc i think this is for you. Cant believe they spent 10 million on this. didn't they say they were going to take a incubator approach to series and make a couple of eps to make it financially viable. even as a box set. maybe you could have gotten more viewer buzz create a mini series before pushing off to a full series. 10 million. damm.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 5:16 a.m. CST

    I wonder if any parents complained.

    by tonagan

    Angry mom: "My kids and I sat down to watch it because I thought it would be like the original Munsters and I was HORRIFIED by the graphic and violent nature of this show. No, I don't know what TV-14 means!!!" Follow-up call by dad: "Ummm... is there a cut where you get to see Portia De Rossi naked?"

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 5:57 a.m. CST

    Hated it.

    by MovieManStill

    On just about every level. There is no way on earth, that NBC will go through with this, at least not as an NBC product. The audience for this show? I wouldn't let my kid watch it (not that I'll ever have one). I don't want to watch it. And what's with all the casting raves? Terrible.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 7 a.m. CST

    Brilliant

    by mechas8n

    I enjoy the original and you know what. The original still exists. All of it. It is NOT going to be systematically destroyed, One episode wiped from your memory for every episode of Mockingbird lane produced. This was GREAT. This is EXACTLY what I want to watch on TV. I love that Spot showed up at the end. I LOVE that the staircase had the secret passage in it. You know what they did? They did The Addams Family Movie Treatment to the Munsters. Updated it, and amped up the horror, while still keeping the comedy. Come on "Oh Grandpa. Did you turn the neighbour into your servant and make him paint the house?" was great. I want more of this. But they wont make more of this because Americans are stupid en mass and you adenoidal geeks are so wrapped up in the past that change causes you physical pain.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 7:41 a.m. CST

    Actually, I'm not wrapped up in the past.

    by MovieManStill

    And I'm not a geek. And, I'm not stupid. This show has a very limited audience, and NBC would be smart to "kill" it. The staircase "secret passage" was in the original, of course.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 8 a.m. CST

    Dammit,I missed it. Hopefully it will be On Demand next week.

    by adeceasedfan

    And if moviemanstill hated it, I'm sure I'll love it. ;)

  • Last night I watched the MUNSTERS reboot pilot MOCKINGBIRD LANE. It was alright. Most of the characters were nicely updated especially Eddie Izzard as Grandpa Munster! He steals the show! I thought Jerry O'Connell's Herman Munster however just didn't fit in with the rest of the family! Not Jerry's fault. It's just the way the character is written and presented. I understand having Herman looking like the Classic Frankenstein monster wouldn't work in today's world but Herman should still be a big lunky guy that is pretty much like a big child. I also totally agree with a previous poster who said there was no chemistry between Herman & Lilly! There was also very little dynamic between Herman & Grandpa like in the old show. That to me is what made the show, Herman & Grandpa getting into trouble every episode. If they overhaul the Herman character they may have a chance of having a really good show. But that's just my opinion!

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 8:13 a.m. CST

    Hulu has it

    by MovieManStill

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 8:15 a.m. CST

    Oh, Deceased

    by MovieManStill

    We can't disagree on EVERYTHING.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 9:06 a.m. CST

    I thought Jerry was fine.

    by grendel69

    Actually this version of Herman was very in line with the original version. You had this huge guy who was Frankensteins monster, yet he was a big softie at heart, adored his wife and family, afraid of his own shadow, etc. I thought the stuff with Grandpa and Marilyn was great. Lily is the weak link for me. I also thought the GrandpaBat was poorly done. Hated the design they used....but oh well.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Moviemanstill

    by adeceasedfan

    Just kidding as usual. :)

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Herc, it seems that you're involved with Fuller and the show...

    by Messiahman

    Herc, people saying you've been bought off are incorrect. It's already known that you're a working writer, and your posts on MOCKINGBIRD LANE are transparently insider-ish. I've got a strong feeling that you're hoping for a full-time staff writer position should this go to series. Leaving aside the conflict of interest involved in you hyping it, here's the thing... it won't go to series. NBC burned it off on a Friday night because they're aware it doesn't have legs. It's similar to what happened with PUSHING DAISIES. Fuller and company overspent on a pilot (that one directed by Sonnenfeld) and then gave viewers a regular show that didn't match up to it. Frankly, that's an incrediblu foolish form of thinking, as it automatically kneecaps the show from the outset. There's no way any other eps will measure up to a ten million dollar pilot helmed by a feature director. It's a cheat to the audience. You'd think Fuller would've learned that by now after his string of canceled shows. You can say the series isn't canceled as much as you like (who cares if more scripts were ordered; happens all the time) but my experience tells it's dead in the water. Saying "it's not canceled yet" is just playing a game of delusional semantics.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 11 a.m. CST

    j2talk

    by DrMorbius

    Online @ HULU ... http://www.hulu.com/

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 11:09 a.m. CST

    I liked it

    by KevinMuller

    Thought it was enjoyable but this would be too expensive to do every week. I would watch it if it was to be picked up.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 11:15 a.m. CST

    The title is telling

    by maxwello

    Fuller didn't call it "The Munsters". You can't just take inspiration from an earlier work of art anymore. Once any elements of a show get too close to something that's already been done, all sorts of lawyers get involved. Children and grandchildren of the original artists and studios (and did I mention their lawyers) claim provenance over any derivative works. They then insist that elements from the original be inserted, in order to shore up their claims to ownership of an interest in the new work, and any money that that might bring. Copyright and trademark laws can get complicated, so I don't really fault a producer for how much latitude they do or don't take when they create a new piece based on an earlier one. I enjoyed the show on its own merits. I don't think the Lilly character was given enough screen time for me to evaluate her performance, but nothing she did took me out of the story, and I thought she looked great. I thought O'Connor's take on Herman was the best work I've seen him do. Heartfelt, and surprisingly subtle. Odd that the role he seems least like a caricature in is the one that would be so easy to have taken over the top. Comments on the Marilyn character seem premature, since they've hinted at a significant backstory that they haven't yet delivered. Eddie's story was a nice metaphor, if a little heavy handedly introduced. And I just like watching Eddie Izzard. No justification, just a personal preference. He probably reminds me of someone, but I haven't been able to figure out who it would be. I'd put it on a season pass on my DVR. If it's not your cup of tea, Friday's crowded with other good shows you can enjoy.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST

    This show was fucking awful.

    by Holeman

    Couldn't wait for it to be over. The tone was all over the place. Having Gramps turn into a fucking gargoyle was retarded. I didn't laugh once. Cancel this turd and spend the money on something, ANYTHING else.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Ugh

    by Jerry Danzig

    This Munsters reimagining was simply awful. Well, the house looked good. Didn't see the Munster Coach in the driveway... Methinks Herc's a jerk as a discerning critic.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 11:51 a.m. CST

    It was okay. Needed work. MAJOR SPOILERS.

    by OutsideChance

    Just finished watching it on Hulu. I think Fuller lost the network in the first three minutes when a group of kids got “eaten” by a werewolf. Yes, I realize they were just “ravaged” and “left naked,” with a few scratches. However, I think that scene alone was a lot darker/scarier than what the network wanted for a primetime TV show. And when you consider it got darker from there (the gory heart scenes, Grandpa’s blood cookies, a man’s corpse in the house with his chest wide open while grandpa drank his blood) , the network bailed. Don’t get me wrong. I thought some of it was fun for us geeks but I think the network, given the brand, wanted something a little more “family friendly” than a TV-14 show. O’Connell’s Herman was likeable but, for lack of better term, too intelligent and “deep.” Herman doesn’t need to be a complete dullard with bolts in his neck, but I think it needed more of a good natured, slightly awkward, father...more of gentle giant than zombified male model. In many ways, Cheyenne Jackson (the scoutmaster) would have been a better Herman. Patrick Warbuton, even with O’Connell’s subdued makeup, would have killed in this role (no pun intended). My favorite moment with Herman was when he had to admit to Lily he and Grandpa played to kill the scoutmaster, and-respectively-take his heart and drink his blood. That echoed back to the original series and how Herman and Grandpa would come up with some wacky scheme and Lily would chastise them both. Izzard was good. He’s always good. Clearly, the highlight of the show. I appreciated the fact that Fuller didn’t go for the easy joke of having Marie’s dog bark its head off at Grandpa. As soon as I saw the Corgi I thought “oh no, here THAT cliche comes.” Happily though he was above that. I liked the kid that played Eddie. He did a good job playing normal, but self aware. I could have lived without the "I want to be a vegetarian" gag, however. Besides the "Simpsons did it" factor, it was as unfortunately obvious as the Corgi joke they didn't use. I was a bit disappointed with Del Rossi. She’s proven on other shows, including “Better Off Ted” and “Arrested Development” that she can deftly balance being sweet and vampish. Yet, ironically enough, here she played an actual vampire and she made her character overly sweet, not at all vampish and actually a little bland. I didn’t care for Marilyn at all. She was very much a caricature of a 1950s ingenue. Why would they spend so much time supposedly ‘updating’ the show and then have someone who looks and acts like she’s from five decades earlier as a major part of the family? Herman in the scoutmaster uniform at the end was a nice touch. Pretty good art direction and special effects (except for Grandpa's shitty CGI-looking "bat form"). Overall, I think it would have worked better as a movie and/or a recast/slightly rewritten Herman. And it certainly wasn't the best thing I saw on TV this week.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Bad makeup and effects so far

    by FrodoFraggins

    I'm only about a third of the way thru the pilot. The werewolf, Hermans chest and Izzards makeup were pretty amateurish.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Yes, Deceased. Got that.

    by MovieManStill

    I just don't put smiley faces on my posts. Outsidechance, I don't think that the kids were just "ravaged" - that was the story given TO Eddie about his situation. They were eaten. Yeah, NBC, that's gonna work. Did they also intend on killing the guest star each week?

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Better than expected

    by FrodoFraggins

    Not very good, but above my low expectations. DeRossi is best in a VERY limited role. she's not a good actor, she's adequate at best and gets by on looks. Her best roles were as side characters in Allie McBeal and Arrested Development. It's worth a pickup but I'm not really a fan of the new direction. Herman is likable but just plain boring.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 12:33 p.m. CST

    They did get rid of what made teh original special

    by FrodoFraggins

    And that was a huge, clumsy but likable frankenstein monster.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Hey. Wait. Friday's when Community is supposed to be airing.

    by daggor

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Clusterfuck

    by dasaroo

    Utterly incoherent show. Floundering to find a tone from beginning to end. Uncharismatic leads. Eddie Izzard is wasted in his role. Portia is hot? I just imagine her doing it with Ellen Degeneres, and my dick doesn't just shrivel, it turns to dust and wafts away. Totally unlike Pushing Daisies, which hooked me immediately. Lee Pace and Anna Friel- compelling ( and gorgeous). O'Connell and de Rossi- day-old Wonder Bread. I think back to that scene in the Daisies pilot where Chuck is being transported to the cemetery in her coffin, Friel is so radiant and yet so wistful as she considers her fate- I'll tell you, my heart melted in a puddle on the floor. OTOH, Mockingbird left me cold.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Herc stop using parentheses every other sentence.

    by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch

    I'm sure you're a nice guy. but your writing and opinions are totally hyperbolic like the average Buffy fanboy. I would really like to see someone reviewing TV who wasn't such a damn emotional GIRL.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Poor casting, lumbering execution, mediocre show

    by Stegman84

    I mean I'm not surprised that Hercules raved about it, he lives so far up Bryan Fuller's ass that I'm pretty sure he has his mail forwarded there now, but let us be perfectly honest, that was mediocre at best, and frankly if that is the best new piece of tv you have watched this year you either don't own a tv (or a stable internet connection), or you need to seriously fucking re-address the kind of shit you choose to watch. I mean I can see how some people may have liked it, but raving about it like it is something special, let alone the best new show this year...well, the words fuck and off spring to mind, in that order. Hell, this wasn't even close to the best thing I watched today. Hyperbole thy name is Hercules.

  • That's a nice way to say Herc has always, ALWAYS whored his position - such that it is - on Aintitcool.Com to try to position himself from the realm of ludicrous internet so-called personality to the realm of legitimate bread-winning so-called writer. The problem is that Herc's efforts are monumentally transparent. Notice he couldn't even make it through the short article above without calling out & attacking the work of other people. Regardless of what you think of the kid from WALKING DEAD, there's no reason except to be petty to put down one kid to elevate another unless you're trying to score brownie points with someone or you're unbelievably petty. I tend to think Herc is both. Herc loves to attack shows he doesn't like instead of just ignoring them into the dust bin. Likewise, he lacks the objectivity to discuss SUPERNATURAL. He acted as though it didn't exist for a half a DECADE and only when it was hitting new heights of popularity every year did he step out to slam it a few times with a few errant words and then go back to ignoring it. I will say there's been progress. His flippant article titles have diminished over the years. He no longer seems obsessed with laughing hysterically with titles like RATINGS ARMAGEDDON - SHOWS I DON'T LIKE ARE DOING POORLY HAHAHAHA and things of that nature that are the height of childish behavior.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Oh, and let's not forget - Herc liked THE EVENT.

    by Nintendarth

    Let's never let him forget that, shall we?

  • Just sayin'.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 1:11 p.m. CST

    This was really good

    by Kevin Kittridge

    I would very much like this to go to series.

  • I actually enjoyed it, at least more than most crap that is on tv. I wonder if they will keep Gramppa young or have him age back and forth as part of his character. I would definitely watch more of this show.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Jerry O'connell's ONLY decent role ever: Being Mr Rebecca Romjin

    by garagons

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Brad garret

    by chris k

    Saw pilot. Not too bad. I could write a ton of suggestions but will only make 2. Replace derossi and o'connell. If Brad Garrett was Herman this would be a big hit.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Meant to star Det Dutch Wagengach!

    by garagons

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 2:17 p.m. CST

    boring

    by Bass Ackwards

    Didn't laugh once, or even crack a smile, found nothing interesting or involving, just an overall mediocre effort.

  • ABC Shark Tank 6.75 million (1.8) NBC Mockingbird Lane 5.44 million (1.5) FOX Kitchen Nightmares 2.67 million (0.9) CW America's Next Top Model 1.14 million (0.4) The key thing to remember is - you could make two seasons of any of those other shows for the $10 million spent on the MOCKINGBIRD LANE pilot. Ooooops! People say NO! TO BRYAN FULLER AGAIN! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Weird agenda

    by Bass Ackwards

    Yes, say no to Bryan Fuller because we need more of those shitty reality television series. Victory!

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 2:45 p.m. CST

    nintendarth......

    by Holeman

    Those ratings aren't that bad at all. The show helped NBC win the night overall and more importantly win the slot in the all too important 18-49 demographic. The premiere was solid and respectable. So unfortunately we might be seeing more of this crap.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Those ratings actually aren't too bad. However...

    by OutsideChance

    ...in all likelihood they don't justify an ongoing series, especially one with a big budget. Furthermore, most shows of this sort see a drop off in the numbers after the first episode. At best, this might induce NBC to consider retooling the show as a more "family friendly," less expensive, half hour sitcom. Most likely, however, this is the end of Mockingbird Lane.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 3:04 p.m. CST

    The reason for the "Weird agenda" (not one I share BTW)

    by OutsideChance

    There seems to be a backlash here against the way Herc promoted the show as much as against the show itself. As we all know, overhype can hurt as much as help something. In this case, as I mentioned above, Herc's strong-even confrontationalopinions on shows come off more like a TB'er than a journalist at times. That fanboyish enthusiam can be seen as "Herc's one of us." And I'd like to think that's what it really is. But it can also make it look like he's trying to "dictate" what we are supposed to enjoy (cases in point: his insistence that this would be the best thing we see on TV all week). Right or wrong, given that TB'ers tend to be a contrary bunch of opinionated types ourselves, that can breed resentment and backlash over being told what to like. There also seems to be a growing sense that Herc, as one of the last holdouts on the site still refusing to reveal his real name (which for all I know may be a perfectly legitimate thing to do), while hinting at being "in the business," has something to hide in his agenda (witness the people here assuming he works for [or wants to work for] Fuller). Again, I'm not saying that's the case at all, just pointing out why I think some TB'ers are starting to get riled. Ultimately, I think it would be best if all of us--moderators and TB'ers alike--enjoyed shows on their merits and not on personal loyalty or antipathy toward the creators or critics.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 3:55 p.m. CST

    ML hit a 1.5 in 18-49

    by Hercules

    that's pretty great for a Friday show. last night's third-most-watched show in the key demo

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 4:04 p.m. CST

    It was actually tied for third in the key demo.

    by OutsideChance

    According to TV by the numbers it was beat in the key demo by Shark Tank and Grimm and only tied Blue Bloods and Dateline NBC. It ain't shabby but if NBC came get the same numbers with something at cheap as Dateline, which one is staying on the air?

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 4:06 p.m. CST

    1.5 will not cut it.

    by MovieManStill

    It's an expensive show, and NBC can't afford too many more pricey underachievers. I also hope that, someday, the "key demo" is rethought. We have an aging population, and many of the people spending the money, are well over 50.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 4:08 p.m. CST

    as a fan of the creator...

    by mcgillj

    I am actually surprised. I knew it was being done, and actually I thought it was TONIGHT rather than last night.. lucky I had remembered to set the DVR. I will say I had some reservations about O'Connell as Herman. I just had no idea what they were really going for. And c'mon against the original Herman? That's just a no win scenario for ANYONE.. But O'Connell did a great job .. as did, well everyone in the cast. Izzard I expected to be good, and it was a bit over the top but the sense of humor didn't go for the more overt camp of the original. I am not sure if Grimm is in the Friday night slot still, but Mockingbird Lane would actually be the perfect show to pair it with. Sadly I never cared for Grimm, I found the lead just dull.. but Mitchell is great and I almost watch to watch it just to make sure he has a job for the next gazillion years. But.. yeah.. it really wasn't as funny as his previous work, but it was definitely something I would watch more of. And that's saying a lot from someone who was just going to take it in as a one off curiousity. This definitely was no one involved's less then top notch work.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 4:15 p.m. CST

    I liked the "Event" *pilot*.

    by Hercules

    so did a lot of critics: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/46613

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 4:20 p.m. CST

    outsidechance

    by Hercules

    I think Blue Bloods only hit a 1.4 in 18-49.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Ratings

    by DangerMan

    It needed a much bigger rating to justify a pickup, but the DVR viewings should push it further and that could make a difference. What it ultimately will do is persuade NBC to provide GRIMM with a stronger lead in, most likely a genre show.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Herc, TV by the numbers gives Blue Bloods a five share

    by OutsideChance

    ...in 18-49, same as ML. But, even if I concede the point (or tenth of a point as the case may be), having a high concept, big budget, show by Bryan Fuller barely beat a CBS police procedural starring a 67 year actor is hardly the kind of performance that will get a show, even a good one, picked up.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 4:33 p.m. CST

    "The Event" pilot was all that I watched.

    by MovieManStill

    It was enough for me. I was a fan of "FlashForward", initially. Then they allowed that ludicrous winter break between half-seasons. I never caught up with the final episodes. I cannot see "Mockingbird Lane" making it, without some retooling - by which I mean casting (which they're not going to do) and tone. This series needs to have more of a family appeal to survive - the geek audiences can't keep it running. I like Izzard, but everyone else could easily be replaced. Yes, I know that this series is not intended for fans of the original show. But the concept itself skews younger, and with so much violence (comic or not), it's a hot, tranny mess.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 5:14 p.m. CST

    God that was horrid!!

    by jbs9200

    That was really bad. I don't think I laughed once during the entire 39 minutes (yes, 39 minutes for a 1hr show). Jerry O'Connell was miscast. He did his job well enough but the character had Zero charisma. Lily was forgettable. Eddie Munster was OK. He was a little kid, what do you want there? The CGI was passable. The set-extension was good. The scene with Lily's dress was horrid. The only cast member worth a damn was Grandpa. Marline was fairly good. Mostly due to her interaction with Grandpa. The writers need to buy the DVDs and rewatch the whole series and take note of how the characters worked and what made them funny. This show was neither funny nor scarey. AT times it looked like it could be scarey, but it never was. At times it looked like it could be a black comedy, but it never was. All in all I was bored. It had none of the creativity or charisma of Pushing Daisies or Dead Like Me.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 7:27 p.m. CST

    10. MILLION. DOLLARS.

    by iampain

    10. MILLION. DOLLARS. let that sink in. 10. MILLION. DOLLARS.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 7:29 p.m. CST

    Halfway through now.......

    by Fart Magnus

    .........and really enjoying it! So any word yet on a pickup or what?!?! I want this to be a series now!!!!

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 8:20 p.m. CST

    Actually, 10 million for this pilot is reasonable.

    by MovieManStill

    In 1994, I worked on a Spelling series that was one million an episode. These pilots are mini-movies. As much as I hated this pilot, they did put the bucks into it....

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 10:21 p.m. CST

    mechas8n

    by Freddy

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 10:30 p.m. CST

    mechas8n: "Americans are stupid en masse"

    by Freddy

    No that wasn't invisotext, damn keyboard decided the post was ready before I did. Sure there are stupid Americans. But you're living proof it's by no means an exclusively American trait. These lame attempts to elevate whatever shithole you crawled out of by knocking Americans is so sad and transparent. Find another hobby.

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 1:23 a.m. CST

    I was with THE EVENT pilot up until the teleporting plane.

    by Nintendarth

    I then said, oh, it's one of THOSE shows, and shut it off forever & deleted the series recording on my DVR.

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 1:25 a.m. CST

    My agenda is simple.

    by Nintendarth

    My agenda is that people in the real world want reality tv shows. People like Bryan Fuller who insist on trying to buck that trend are fools. Soon enough ALL tv will be reality shows. So why not help the process along until there's nothing but static on every channel. Give the American people what they want.

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 1:25 a.m. CST

    Coming Soon: FART - The Series. You know it's coming.

    by Nintendarth

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 2 a.m. CST

    What ruined it for me was......

    by hopeless

    Herman and the whole look and feel of it seemed like they were trying to get the teen emo goth Tim Burton fanbase. Plus I dont remember seeing the hot rod car anywhere in the show.

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 2:47 a.m. CST

    Interesting poll here:

    by Hercules

    http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/10/27/mockingbird-lane-does-it-have-a-pulse-now-poll/154955/

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 5:13 a.m. CST

    Sorry but Portia de Rossi is not in the same league as

    by Righteous Brother

    Yvonne deCarlo - nowhere near it. Yvonne deCarlo represents true Hollywood glamour from its heyday.

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 7:06 a.m. CST

    I found the pilot absolutely boring. No real laughs either.

    by happybunni

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 7:41 a.m. CST

    still on about this?

    by rakesh patel

    it felt like a disney channel show. I'm not against remakes for the sake of remakes, some things should be remade / revisioned etc.. some things should not. maybe it would have been better off as a big screen remake I'm struggling to think who would want to watch this. evidently some people do. i just think that people watched this as a curiosity thing like myself but would bug out on a permanent series. so far this year there hasn't been anything new worth watching as must see. i watch elemental , last resort, arrow 666 park avenue and revolution, but if they all got cancelled it wouldn't bother me. i wouldn't be bothered if it was cancelled, but i wouldn't even watch it as a regular show.

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 7:43 a.m. CST

    No such thing as an interesting online poll

    by OutsideChance

    It's a unscientific method of sampling. They count on self selected participants with an existing bias towards the topic. They're about as reliable as horoscopes.

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Can I say the opening confused and scared the fuck outta me???

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Seriously. In the beginning I figure I had tuned to the wrong channel or something. There's scouts talking and no Munsters, so I thought it was preempted at the last minute. Shit happens all the time. I didn't switch the channel because the black kid was entertaining me with his snitching. Then WHOOSH!!! The black kid gets snatched and everyone starts getting slaughtered and I'm thinking WTF is this?! Grimm or some Halloween special?!?! I figure this wasn't The Munsters because kids are getting killed and stuff. And this was too dark for even a Munsters update. As soon as Eddie name came up I gave off another WTF and thought is this for real??? Did I missed his name in the beginning or whatever? Then it seems the kids were ok and that made things even more confusing. Didn't we witness the scouts being snatch, hit, and toss with brute force that almost rival horror movies? I was like a copout to have the kids be alive after all that chaos. There wasn't a thing funny about that scene, except the black kid. I have to watch the pilot again because after all of that I just wasn't interested anymore.

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 1:09 p.m. CST

    The thing with TV critics (and other critics)...

    by Arguendo

    ... is that the best way to use them is to find a TV critic whose tastes are similar to your own and follow them. The benefit of following a TV critic is that they tend to view more shows than you may have the time to and can preview upcoming shows. This allows you to find shows that you like better. FWIW, I tend to like the shows that Herc endorses. The hyperbole aside, Herc's a decent litmus test for *me* to decide whether or not I want to check something out. I also like Bryan Fuller's works in general, even if I wouldn't herald him as the Next Great Thing. His shows are different, something I personally find entertaining, and provides variety to the television landscape. Mockingbird Lane is not the best of his work, but it's still something that I would watch each week. Pushing Daises was probably his best, but it also had the longest time to develop.

  • Terribly cast as well.

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 4:17 p.m. CST

    can_o_whoopass

    by mechas8n

    I'm a Fucking Genius and you are a cunt. You read like a cunt and act like a cunt and are a cunt a stupid cunt Fuck off cunt American cunt Yay! wave a flag and your cock at me. Cunt.

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 4:51 p.m. CST

    De Rossi vs DiCarlo

    by Kevservo

    Portia's beautiful sure, but Yvonne DiCarlo was fucking gorgeous, and Portia could never bring the sass that Yvonne brought to the character of Lily. That woman brought enough attitude for the whole class. Still not sure what my opinion of the show overall is as it's still percolating (except that Jerry O'Connell always has and always will suck), but I neither loved nor hated it. What I AM sure about is that Eddie Izzard's Grandpa is a fucking BOSS.

  • Oct. 29, 2012, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Why, oh why, is this on NBC?

    by tcovil

    Everybody knows that a show like this is doomed on a broadcast network. I loved Izzard in this. But I love him in anything -- standup, The Riches, a dress, whatever. He elevates anything he is in. But he is going to be constrained on NBC. A show like ML needs to be free from constraint. It needs profanity and nudity and violence to go with naughty humor. Imagine "True Blood" on a broadcast network, and that's what you've got with Mockingbird Lane. The show also needs some kind of central mystery. In the old show all we ever saw of Spot was a tail and a shadow. Here we see Spot revealed in all his glory... in the pilot episode.

  • Oct. 29, 2012, 10:09 a.m. CST

    O'Connel's defining role...

    by zer0cool2k2

    Trip McNeely

  • Oct. 29, 2012, 10:13 a.m. CST

    I actually LOVED Mockingbird Lane

    by KingKirby

    The conceit of the story is that The Munster family fits more into the "real" world...no one ran away from Herman because he was a big green monster (but his introduction here in silhouette with the flat head and neck bolts revealed as a bird feeder was terrific), Eddie was a real kid who turns into a werewolf ONCE a month instead of hanging around all the time as a wolf boy; Grandpa was an actual threat as a vampire, instead of just a mad scientist. The use of the "Munsters" theme thoughout the score was very cool. And I just loved the introduction of Spot...very fun. This is not another try at doing the old show with the same characters and costumes...it is not a half hour sitcom, but an hour long about how these "monsters" fit into society. My main problem with the previews was that it just seemed to be Jerry O'Connell. But his Herman is much more of a living dead/zombie character, a man reanimated with pieces of different bodies (that his heart was the last of his original body was quite touching). I really hope they take this show to series.

  • Oct. 29, 2012, 4:29 p.m. CST

    I loved it

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    More please. Classic Fuller tone.

  • Oct. 29, 2012, 11:43 p.m. CST

    wow, that was painfully bad...

    by Simpsonian

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