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‘I Can See It!! Right!! There!!’ Hercules Says Tonight's Big And Costly FRINGE Improves On The Tree People Episode!!

Published at: Oct. 26, 2012, 12:30 p.m. CST

I am – Hercules!!

Fringe 5.4 FAQ

What’s it called?
“The Bullet That Saved The World.”

Who’s responsible?
Teleplay is credited to Alison Schapker (“Enemy Of My Enemy,” “A Better Human Being”).

What says AMC?
“When the Fringe team tracks a lead into a hostile and heavily guarded location, Phillip Broyles resurfaces…but can he be trusted?”

Is it better than last week’s tree-people episode?
Yes.

Does the episode start with a flashback?
No. It starts with Peter in Boston.

The big news?
We learn there’s a room beneath Walter’s lab at Harvard. Longtime fans could be interested to learn what’s down there.

Any sign of William Bell this week?
No. Nor is he referenced.

What about Nina Sharp?
This episode is Nina-free.

Does Fringe Agent Simon Foster return as a deadly cyborg?
Not this week.

TV Guide says this episode features an “emotional death.” Does Broyles die again?
That would be telling. But it’s somebody big.

What else is Fox not telling us?
The Observers aren’t the only ones employing deadly force this week.

When is the series finale date again?
Feb. 1.

How does it end, spoiler-boy?
“Let’s go on, son.”

9 p.m. Friday. Fox

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  • Oct. 26, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Are we still in the universe where Peter died as a child

    by judge dredds fresh undies

    Or are the writers just hoping we forgot about the shitty idea of this not being the original universe. Either way the Fringe mythology is a fucking mess.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 12:55 p.m. CST

    its not a mess.

    by rakesh patel

    but asking me to recap it is going to be impossible. it all actually made sense if you watched everything in sequence. I'm calling it. Someone Black is going to Die.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 12:58 p.m. CST

    SOMEONE STOP THE ADVERTS FROM AUTOMATICALLY PLAYING

    by rakesh patel

    I'm not buying that handwash. that triclosan will kill you. use a fucking soap bar instead.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Internal Server Error (500)

    by rakesh patel

    Request Method: GET Request URL: http://www.aintitcool.com/ (NoMethodError) undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass You're seeing this error because you use Rack::ShowStatus. It's like a well oiled machine.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Yeah I'm getting the same internal server stuff

    by Paul

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Yeah I bet also thats its ether Broyles or Astrid

    by Paul

    It would be bold if they killed off Etta, but I doubt it and theres pretty much zero chance that they would kill the main 3.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Thanks Herc for a talkback just for us!

    by Paul

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Broyles would be big, but you almost don't care about him anymore.

    by googamooga

    Astrid would be a bigger shock...

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Im guessing that

    by Johnboy40

    Gene the cow is in the basement,(in amber) and Gene the cow dies

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Thanks for the Bull Mahar free talkback.

    by Smerdyakov

    The Republicans can pillory him on their own time.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Agnes

    by skiprat1

    I dunno. I think it will be Asterix. She really has nothing to do, and zero emotional connection to this storyline. I love the character, but if there's anyone who's just filler at this point, it's Asteroid.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Thank you for the Talkback.

    by skiprat1

    And yes, thank you for the dedicated Talkback. Much appreciated. And also anger-making, as i'm going to be traveling and not get to see this episode when it airs. Can anyone tell me how/where I can catch it online later tonight? Does such a thing exist?

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 2:31 p.m. CST

    If it was Broyles I'd struggle to care

    by theGoldbergV

    What they've done with Broyles is basically the reason I've gone off Fringe in the last couple years. Lance Reddick is an awesome actor and that scene where 'our' Broyles is confronted by his alternate's dead body in season 3 is awesome. Unfortunately due to the Peter reset of season 4 there's never been any follow up to it. If they killed him off again it wouldn't hold the same weight as before because he's basically a new character now. Same for Astrid to a certain extent. But yeah it's definitely one or the other. Can't see them killing Etta but I suppose it could be September... Enjoying Fringe this year but it seems completely disconnected to the show of the first 3 years...

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 3:01 p.m. CST

    In defence of Astrid.

    by Smerdyakov

    It's good to have a character in a series that everyone will confide in and who will pass along messages. Maybe they could kill of the horny bookstore owner.

  • But then Astrid would suck also.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 3:14 p.m. CST

    I mean: it would suck if they killed off Astrid also

    by Paul

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Agreed.

    by theGoldbergV

    I've been waiting for a proper Astrid story and she's basically done nothing in the first 3 episodes. Where's her meltdown or reaction to finding out everyone she knew other than the Bishops is dead? This is the prefect opportunity to give her a real, meaty storyline of her own. Be proper gutted if they chose to kill her off instead. But really it's bound to be her or Broyles right? Not exactly a long list if candidates

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Whoever it it, Walter can probably bring them back to life.

    by Smerdyakov

    He IS the greatest mad scientist of all time.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 5:12 p.m. CST

    thegoldbergv

    by Paul

    True, although if they do kill off ether i would bet (hopefully) the episode would be a majorly revolve around said character. Kind of like the episode where they killed off Alternate Broyles (in season 3) revolved around him with his son being kidnapped by the sugarman.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 5:18 p.m. CST

    thegoldbergv

    by Paul

    Well they did have Broyles touch a little on his feelings of seeing his alternate dead in the animated episode when he was stoned he made some comments about his feelings. truth be told hes a retty stoic character and wouldn't have revealed anymore of hi feelings otherwise.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 9 p.m. CST

    Holy shit...

    by adml_shake

    didn't see that death coming.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 9:01 p.m. CST

    Wow, Fringe really wasn't fooling around tonight

    by Beebop

    I was expecting a regular but peripheral character to go.....not the one that actually went.

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 9:02 p.m. CST

    Motherfuck.

    by CatVutt

    .Awesome episode. Fucking gut-puncher though

  • Oct. 26, 2012, 9:33 p.m. CST

    Gut punch...

    by scors54

    Shit just got real. Peter. Olivia and Walter now have really deep reasons to bring these skin head motherfuckers down.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 12:08 a.m. CST

    Man the was touching

    by Paul

    Thught e that it would be Broyles or Astrid but this one hit hard. Should be interesting where they go next, but it makes sense, its now paired down to the core original group for the final 9 or so episodes.

  • A time machine. September gave Walter the secret of time travel.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 12:57 a.m. CST

    by skiprat1

    Just arrived at my shitty hotel and need to figure out how to watch this episode - which I managed to spoil for myself already. Not seeing how time travel will be a solution in a battle against time travelers, but I have just spent the past four hours in the car with the wife and kid squawking nonstop all the way, so I'm not thinking clearly anyway. Gonna try to find his episode online. Any pointers greatly appreciated.

  • Now that that part is closed I'm curious and excited to see what the focus on the 2nd chapter (episodes 5 - 8) will focus on?!?!?!?! I'm betting that its going to be them gathering the pieces of the machiene and rebuilding themselves as a family unit/healing themselves and the 3rd chapter will be their final offence against the Observers. I was curious as to why they kept reruning the park flashback in a million different ways ahn why no September or other flashbacks. I bet that maybe chapter 2 will focus on September (in the flashbacks) helping them as they enact the plan in the Future.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 3:23 a.m. CST

    If nothing else...

    by maelstrom_ZERO

    ...at least that tree people episode felt like a slight nod to Asimov's Foundation, with an entire population built for the purpose of preserving history as a whole. It's too bad that the tree peoples' real intentions weren't as awesome as Foundation's.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 3:47 a.m. CST

    How does it end, spoiler-boy?

    by rakesh patel

    thats not was was said, but it would have been a real spoiler other wise. Dammit. i guess death is inevitable being the final season. sucks though. actually the Broyles reunion was actually quite touching. damm. i'm going to miss this series.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 3:53 a.m. CST

    though if zillabeat is right and it is timetravel

    by rakesh patel

    hopefully they'll come back to the present before just as those bald fucks arrive and kill them all off. everyone saved. everyone wins. everyone lives.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 6:16 a.m. CST

    Just off Astrid

    by Gezoes

    Nobody cares about her.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 7:19 a.m. CST

    See, Pa? here you've got your "Fringeback"!

    by wtriker1701

    I feel happy for you - and will join in from time to time... Thx Herc!

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 7:56 a.m. CST

    But something about Anna was important to the Observers.

    by Smerdyakov

    That's why they were so upset about the alternate timeline where the wrong Olivia bore her. Somehow Anna's life and death was the key to their defeat.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Etta, not Anna

    by thepoohguy

    It could be as simple as the Fauxlivia Peter child did not have the ability to block them from reading her mind due to the Cortexaphan in the real Olivia's blood. Without that ability, she would never have been able to get them out of the amber.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Etta

    by Extr3m1st

    I hope to see that actress a lot more in the future. Gorgeous and she did a nice job with the part. I can't believe there are only 9 episodes left. I agree that time travel is what September gave them, at the end Peter and Olivia will be back in our time period with their child by their side.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Obviously not sure how it will play out

    by StevenScorsese

    But I agree with time travel being the equation that they found in the subway. I can see the final scene of the series being Peter and Olivia back in the park with the young version of daughter on the day she was taken by the Observers. This time, an Observer materializes and it's September - telling them something similar to "this timeline is unwritten, make the most of it."

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 11:32 a.m. CST

    It's a Dharma hatch! FACT!

    by Jeeves

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 11:50 a.m. CST

    strong episode

    by JerryAurora

    I was quite surprised it wasn't Broyles who died. Etta's death had a real impact on the characters, and the viewers. I have long suspected time travel will be the key to stopping the Observers. I also think that other universe is going to be a key part of the plan. When they mentioned the purple red vines candy in the lab a few weeks ago, and Walter did not remember switching from red, I knew the other side was involved. Color has played such an important role in the storytelling process of this show, that such a simple thing like that had to indicate something. My guess is that the Walternate is helping them somehow. Our universe ultimately saved theirs, and now they will repay the favor. The emphasis on the bullet also reinforces this theme, as that bullet saved both worlds, not just ours. I am truly looking forward to seeing where it all ends up.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 12:47 p.m. CST

    creepythinmanismyhero

    by dasaroo

    Ha ha! That's what I thought too. Hellz yeah, they have a Hatch! Shit just got real!

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Re : gezoes : Astrid

    by Real Deal

    You mean you don't care about her. Astro er... Astrid's a great character! I don't want her killed off. I'm sure many feel that way.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Astrid

    by Michael Gunn

    She doesn't get much to do, but I still like her on the show.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Seriously

    by skiprat1

    I need to see this episode. I hope Captain Skidmark gets severely beaten by an LSD-rage fueled Walter. I wonder if the machine will enable September to return from wherever he has been the past few episodes, or if he's dead from some past event.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Manifest Destiny

    by John Brown

    Anyone else see that spray painted waaay up high on the pillar where the team met with Broyles (up higher than the average graffiti artist could reach). Had to be one of their foreshadowing hints. Any ideas what it could mean?

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 5:47 p.m. CST

    Isn't it awesome wtriker1701?!?!?!

    by Paul

    And great discussion going on by everybody!

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 5:48 p.m. CST

    creepythinmanismyhero - We have to go back!

    by Paul

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  • Oct. 27, 2012, 6:14 p.m. CST

    The Glyphs spelt WOUND

    by Paul

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Range of observers

    by skiprat1

    Has it been established that the observers rule covers the entire planet, or just North America?

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 7:30 p.m. CST

    Will The First People or Wave Sink Device figure into the end?

    by StevenScorsese

    Did we ever get a complete explanation about The First People? I know it was theorized that Walter and the rest of our main cast might be them, sent back millions of years into the past. I may have to rewatch some old episodes to refresh on all the Sam Weiss stuff. I was wondering if that could be part of their ultimate plan to defeat the Observers.

  • Joshua Jackson wrote a really great 3 part comic called Beyond the Fringe that details his adventure of hiding the parts and then September explaining how to choose differently when he got into the machiene again along with why he was sacrificing himself.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 8:09 p.m. CST

    thanks paburrows_rises!

    by StevenScorsese

    I couldn't recall the exact details. Between the parallel universes and time jumping, it's hard to sort out and keep track of the details sometimes.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Man, that Broyles old-age makeup is J- Edgar-level horrible

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    And (SPOILER) killing off Etta was a shock.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 9:42 p.m. CST

    Solid episode.

    by theGoldbergV

    It was cool seeing the old 'gas that causes your mouth eyes and ears to seal up' again. Thought it was going to be Broyles getting killed. Big shock it being Etta. I think they're definitely going to introduce time travel this year, Peter will use the machine to restore the timeline somehow. The only thing wrong this season is the ongoing story, so Walter had a plan to save the world, but he recorded it on separate videotapes that he stored in the lab (again separately, for some reason) and then stored other pieces elsewhere, but then ambered the lab? I don't get why it's so complicated... Why separate the plan onto different tapes and then keep them in the same place? It just seems drawn out just to fill a few more episodes. It's a minor complaint cuz the performances and everything else are so good though. Man, how good was that scene with Broyles and Captain whatshisname? I could watch Lance Reddick doing pained stoicism all day. Awesome. I hope they do manage a sort of time jump later this season as it opens up possibilities for cameos from some of the other characters. And it would be cool if the alt universe was worked back in somehow. But yeah, having your daughter abducted, missing her whole childhood and early adult life, only to be reunited and then see her get killed is pretty dark, surprised they went there.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Sam Weiss

    by Michael Gunn

    He seemed like a mysterious character but didn't we find out that he really didn't know that much?

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 10:36 p.m. CST

    Yeah Lance Reddick is pretty awesome to watch

    by Paul

    I really hope that we get a few episodes back in the present so that we can get a few final cases in the present again just for old times sake. It would be cool also if we get another 80's flashback episode thats deals with Peter and Olivia's childhood. Maybe one dealing with Walter's wifes suiside or Peter's conman days, but if not I'll still be happy. I agree though that they need to let us see the alt world at least one more time since there was such a big deal made about how the two worlds are united.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 11:38 p.m. CST

    michael gunn - yes and no

    by Paul

    He knew where that scroll was and a few things about the machine pieces and a few other things, but yes he didn't know as much as was lead to believe. The Beyond the Fringe comic had Peter meeting up with Sam Wiess'es ancestor and giving him information and the scroll or something when Peter was bouncing around time hiding pieces of the machine.

  • Oct. 27, 2012, 11:39 p.m. CST

    nasty - Yeah I had problem with Broyles make up also

    by Paul

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Broyles makeup

    by Michael Gunn

    Yes the makeup was bad, almost as bad as Jack's beard in lost.

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 2:39 a.m. CST

    What if one of the tapes (SPOILER)

    by ciroslive

    says that Peter's daughter NEEDS to die in order to kick the Observers off the planet? Also if their plan involves a plan with a man named Widmore, I will shit my jeans!

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 9:54 a.m. CST

    paburrows_rises: Upcoming episode title

    by StevenScorsese

    506 - Through The Looking Glass And What Walter Found There Gee, that sounds familiar....lol I just hope Fringe doesn't have one of its final episodes titled "Stranger in a Strange Land"

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 11:27 a.m. CST

    I already miss Etta. Man. That was some great casting...

    by happybunni

    I think they could have had some better dialogue moments between Etta and Olivia... Like five minutes scenes just discussing whatever questions Etta had. Or maybe she didn't have too many questions because she's moved on, don't know. But yeah good casting... I didn't like her much at first, but did totally accept her as Olivia's daughter in the end

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 1:06 p.m. CST

    Baby Observer

    by The Alienist

    From Season Two? How is he going to fit in? He was adopted by human parents, right? Was he mistakenly dropped here in the present time frame? Was he sent back twenty years before the Occupation for some reason? September seemed to know who he was. No mention since. He would be of age in this timeline. I hope he comes into play and is not forgotten, as his origin story, in that one episode was sorta awesome. I'd be ever so impressed if the creators planted something so early on that would come to flourish in this last season.

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah..and..

    by The Alienist

    Who was the man that Olivia nonchalantly said would kill her when they were searching for her through her own mind (remember, the animated man with an X on his shirt?). That seemed a little too important to just forget...

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Disappointed

    by prbis

    I am surprised you guys are so easy to please. Fringe had so much potential but lost its identity or what is wanted to be about a long time ago. The cast has kept us coming back hoping for decent writing and we keep hoping and it never happens. Storylines are developed and abandoned as if it never happened. Who is the villain...who are the villains are never established with certainty and that has finally gotten the show cancelled. There was a chance to make a nice followup to the season when Peter disappeared. What did we get? A season full of crap seemingly written as the episodes were due, with no connectivity with the previous seasons. Not in a good way anyway. Relationships have been sacrificed for twists which werent necessary, as the Fringe lore was complex enough. You know you have watched every episode but you wonder if you missed a few as you cant see how you got here or why the story needed to go there. I guess the people who make this series just wanted to move on..and so I am disappointed.

  • Totally unpredictable, totally reinventing itself over and over and over and becoming what it is today--just downright glorious, beautiful storytelling with some of the most nuanced and enjoyable characters to ever be seen on tv. And when its over, there will be a void in my life.

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 6:44 p.m. CST

    stevenscorsese

    by Paul

    Yeah or have Bai Ling as a guest star who is in a flashback about how Walter got a tattoo!

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Shit has indeed gotten' real...

    by Billyeveryteen

    The only thing more touching than Broyles's reunion, was Etta's exit. Our time was short, stolen and cruel.

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 7:32 p.m. CST

    stevenscorsese

    by mongo126

    I've said for a while that all this will lead to Walter building the machine to defeat the Observers and make everything come full circle. I still like those odds.....which would be great.

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 8:13 p.m. CST

    the alienist

    by Paul

    I actually read an interview with the showrunner saying that they were thinking of trying to work in the child Observer from season 1. I also really hope that they do! As for the guy that was supposed to kill Olivia a lot of people are wondering about him, hopefully thats something that they pay off also.

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 9:27 p.m. CST

    paburrows...etc.

    by mongo126

    Are you talking about the X guy from 3x19 (the cartoon episode)? I figured that was Walternate in the season 3 finale. With all that has happened to the Fringe crew, I think killing Etta off is enough. I'm hoping we get a Observers takeover flashback episode. The September episode has to be coming up, too. William Bell anyone? ZFT? So many cool things to bring back. Just 9 episodes left!

  • Oct. 28, 2012, 9:47 p.m. CST

    mongo126

    by Paul

    No the X guy was just a storyline that hasn't yet (or might never) get picked up (just like the season one storyline about some mob guys still trying to get Peter or his debt to Nina) While it would be nice if they answered the Mr X thing, its not going to be a big deal if they don't, since as you said theres still a lot going on. I agree that we most likely get an Observer taking over flashback ether in the second arch 5 - 8, or the third 9 - 13. Since the 1st revolved around Etta, I would bet that 2 revolves around September and 3 revolves around the Fringe team or something? As for William Bell I would be that he returns somehow since Walter cut his hand off when he was in Amber.

  • Oct. 29, 2012, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Have We Learned Where September Is?

    by gaston213

  • Oct. 29, 2012, 10:41 a.m. CST

    It's Science Fiction, so...

    by KingKirby

    why not series finale it with September and a time travel story which takes them back to when Etta was a child so that they can defeat The Observers and everyone lives happily ever after? That would make me happy.

  • I believe by Bell in the finale? So at the very least were going to get a flashback and then maybe be brought back to life in the future?

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 12:14 a.m. CST

    by skiprat1

    I suspect this Talkback is dead, but I'm curious... at any point has September revealed his motivation for helping Peter and co? Are other observers on September's side? I re-watched 5.01 and 5.02 today, and they were so much better the second time. Funny how that happens. Did September explain exactly why he wanted to help during the episode where Peter went inside his mind?