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‘Shit Happens!!’
Herc Says WALKING DEAD 3.2 Keeps The Zombie Fun Coming!!

Published at: Oct. 21, 2012, 1:16 a.m. CST

I am – Hercules!!

The Walking Dead 3.2 FAQ

What’s it called?
“Sick.”

Who’s responsible?
Teleplay is credited to series newcomer Nichole Beattie (“Sons of Anarchy,” “Rubicon,” “Prime Suspect”).

What says AMC?
“After a traumatic event, a life hangs in the balance. Complicating matters, the group must also deal with a potential threat to their new surroundings.”

Does the episode start with a flashback?
The episode starts exactly where last week’s episode left off, with panic and surprised prisoners.

Is there a chance in hell Hershel’s horrific amputation will keep his zombification at bay?
That would be telling. I will point out that Scott Wilson’s name isn’t in the new main titles.

Are those prisoners glimpsed at the end of last episode the “potential threat”?
They are.

Do Andrea and/or Michonne catch up with Rick’s group this week?
They do not appear in this week’s installment.

What of Merle or The Governor?
 They are absent this week as well. 

What else is AMC not telling us?
Somebody gave those prisoners a gun.

What’s good?
“This is your lucky day, fellas.” “Don’t open that.” “All we do is run.” “We have plenty of cadavers.” The plentiful zombie combat. The hotness of Lori Grimes and the Greene girls. The shot of Hershel’s abandoned limb near the end of the teaser. Rick’s judicious use of the machete. The cuffed zombie.

What’s not so good?
No Merle or Michonne this week. Carl continues to annoy. And to ascertain his level of zombification, more effort should have been made to keep Hershel forming words.

How does it end, spoiler-boy?
“We’re awful grateful for what you did.”


9 p.m. Sunday. AMC.

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  • Oct. 21, 2012, 1:25 a.m. CST

    FIRST!

    by bananasuperpower

    FIRST!

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 1:45 a.m. CST

    I'd love to be on the run from zombies with Maggie.

    by American Mythos

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 1:47 a.m. CST

    I'd love to be on the run from zombies with Maggie.

    by American Mythos

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 3:32 a.m. CST

    I thought last week's episode was really good

    by lv_426

    I've got a good feeling about season 3. Hopefully it will be more exciting and dynamic than last season, at least with the two separate story lines hinted at by the teaser for the next episode. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't a hater of season 2, but it did get a bit repetitive near the end being stuck on the farm for so long.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 3:51 a.m. CST

    So, does The Governor anally intrude Michonne this season?

    by Chris

    woops...spoiler warning.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 3:54 a.m. CST

    The hotness of Lori Grimes

    by Bricklyne

    Wait,... What? Isn't Lori like severely pregnant? Herc, you freak, you.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 3:59 a.m. CST

    Zombie blowjob

    by Queefer Sutherland

    They swallow.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 5:26 a.m. CST

    Herc has a thing for pregnant women.

    by Jonathan

    Confirmed. >_<

  • So does Anakin dog that blond girl? He needs to tell her that the world's ended. Societal norms and taboos no longer apply and they have to re-populate the earth.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 5:38 a.m. CST

    WTF was Herschel doing running around with a gun in his hand?

    by DVaderRIP

    The guy is the only 'doctor' in the group - he's indispensable. Particularly with a pregnant woman around. Madness. Anyway, it's clear that he's toast. One thing that's never made sense about this show is that there would literally be millions of highly defensible places to choose from. A shopping mall would be by far the best choice for SOOO many reasons - but the trouble is, if there's one place a Zombie show can't go, it's a shopping mall - for pretty obvious reasons. What about the city? Well, a skyscraper would be about the most fucking defensible place in the universe short of a bunker. But we don't have the budget to film in that sort of location. So someone comes up with a prison, because that's defensible, right? Yeah, it would be. But would you assume there'd be no survivors there? Cut off from humanity, lots of forced segregation inside - I'd assume there WERE survivors in there and go from there. Apart from anything else, it's hardly going to engender a homey feeling. What about an army base? Yeah that would be a cool place. Oh, but we can't film in an army base. What's that you say? They run out of petrol?? Fuck off. There would be abandoned cars all over the road, with the keys inside. Transport would NOT be a problem.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 6:09 a.m. CST

    And before you say it...

    by DVaderRIP

    Yes I know they end up in a prison in the comics. That doesn't make it good writing. It doesn't make fucking sense. If I wanted to hole up with some survivors, that is one of the last places I'd look at.

  • Not everyone reads comic books you fucking assholes, and would like events in the show to unfold, if they're going to, unspoiled. Go LARP or beat off to old beach photos of your mother you cunt.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 7:32 a.m. CST

    And does T-Dawg continue to be a nonentity?

    by Hipshot

    But wait! I'll just bet that now they'll introduce a black character. A prisoner, of course. Darabount's ghost continues its work, thank goodness.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 7:36 a.m. CST

    Anakan? LOL!

    by OutsideChance

    Well played.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 8:25 a.m. CST

    TOO BAD HERSCHEL IS TOAST. ENJOYED HIS CHARACTER QUITE A BIT.

    by Darth Busey

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Passive Aggressive Rick

    by rakesh patel

    hope this his anger at lori moves along. kinda awkward not talking to his pregnant wife whilst keeping her safe. and yeah, i'm reading the comics its annoying to have spoiler shit everywhere. maybe they should radically depart from the comic book so non of you know whos going to fucking die next. >inb4 100 episode comic book skull crush death. I still want lennie james back, as improbable as it is. though i suspect the racial equilibrium will become unbalanced if that was the case and t - dawg would have to be dearly departed. I want a flashback backstory on t-dawg before its too late. please make him a lawyer or plastic surgeon in his past life.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 9:49 a.m. CST

    Herschel's Comic death is better (spoilers)

    by sunwukong86

    offed by the Governor

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 10:35 a.m. CST

    TMI

    by vondamage

    more spoiler than usual......

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Joss Whedon live-action Berserk film.

    by JudasPriestly

    Spread the word if you think this would be a great idea for a film especially if Joss directed it.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 1:10 p.m. CST

    The TV series already deviates from the comic in several key aspects

    by OutsideChance

    ...and I anticipate it will continue to do so. As such, people shouldn't get so bent out of shape when posters reference the comic book and/or assume that reference is a spoiler for the TV show. And, to be honest, if people dont want to read spoilers they should probably NOT be reading articles or TBs here at all. This has always been a spoiler heavy site and Herc, to his credit beings every article with the warning "spoilers."

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Why is this still not cancelled?

    by Volllllume3

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Cancel this show like I cancel all of my pregnancies.

    by Metroid_Fetish

    Doctor, we need a coat hanger STAT!

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Also, why the fuck is this called the Walking Dead?

    by Metroid_Fetish

    Where are all of the vampires? Boooooooring.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Mms-cold-lifeless

    by Hipshot

    my, you're a rude one. Presumptuous as well. Exactly why do you assume I'm white? I'm dying to hear your reasoning.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 4:17 p.m. CST

    I don't know about you guys, but I've adopted lots of black kids.

    by Metroid_Fetish

    It keeps them off the streets and in my basement drinking kool-aid laced with cocaine while making endless pairs of forged Nikes. The tax credits are wonderful, too. The little fuckers are the gift that keeps on giving. It warms my heart to exploit them.

  • The producers listen. Thank you. Still have to put up with annoying characters doing stupid shit (like taking the only medically-trained member on a dangerous mission) and Token-Dawg, but it was still watchable and enjoyable.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 4:27 p.m. CST

    PS Herc, AICN... please ban the dipshits posting spoilers in headings

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    Cheers.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 5:02 p.m. CST

    sorry, T-Dawg

    by lv_426

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 5:36 p.m. CST

    Mms-

    by Hipshot

    you didn't answer my question: why do you assume I'm white? answer the question, or the communication ends.

  • Well, your recent posts are not helping with your rehabilitation. And if you had much of an IQ and could remember things, then you would know Mr Hipshot is most vocal on the subject of blacks on tv and how they are portrayed. Although I have never met the guy, nor seen a photo, if he is not black, then he has been in character on this site for years. Jeez, how hard is it to remember regular posters names? But of course, if you dont sniff anything other than your own bullshit, then of course you could not remember other people, their views, and posts. PS. Hipshot, you should check out The Walking Dead game. The main character, who ends up looking after a little girl he rescues, is a black guy. Although the game does start with him on the way to prison after murdering the guy who was having an affair with his wife. He is also a teacher too. Pros and cons, man! lol

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 6:02 p.m. CST

    I have personally adopted at least 12 black kids

    by DVaderRIP

    Fact.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 6:05 p.m. CST

    col tigh

    by Hipshot

    I might well look that up! thanks. and I doubt that mjs can answer my question without making himself look like an asshole. Sometimes I love Internet anonymity more than I can say. Best chuckle I've had all day.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Dvad--

    by Hipshot

    that beats me. I've only adopted one. His name is Jason, and he's trying on his Halloween costume in the living room while I watch ALIAS on Netflix and type in my IPad. Laughing merrily at a certain troll.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Note the way MJS

    by Hipshot

    Refuses answer the simple,question: why would he assume I'm white? gee, I wonder. he doesn't think black people read this site? watch the show? that blacks would be too timid to complain about T-Dawg, or does he figure they'd like the depiction? ooh! maybe my use of the pronoun "they" instead of "we"? What Holmesian deductive skills! I'm...I'm overwhelmed. and as with AsimovLives, who fucked up and insulted me some time ago, his lack of an answer has clearly labeled him a troll, easy and fun to manipulate. I really enjoy this site. it's like an everlasting Con suite, except with artificial courage.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 7:58 p.m. CST

    i adopted an entire african country

    by jsfithaca

    thats what you do if you really wanna make a difference

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 8:04 p.m. CST

    In looking at last week's scenes, why . . .

    by GreatOne4

    Were the zombies in the prison yard behind the gate staying behind the gate? I'm talking about where T-Dawg kicked that one guy in the chest and then closed the fence. Those zombies showed no interest in coming after them; all just sat around watching. What the good is this talkback forum if we can't bitch about something stupid the writers do?

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 8:18 p.m. CST

    So Dish has gotten AMC back

    by terry1978

    Feels like that whole thing was some kind of ploy.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Greatone4

    by Hipshot

    In Dawn of the Dead, Romero suggested that zombies remembered something about their previous lives..wanted to stay near things that had been important to them. Plausibly, they are anchored on some deep level...or, of course maybe it's just bad writing.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 8:49 p.m. CST

    There's just way too much infected blood getting on people

    by GreatOne4

    It's too glaring to be accepted in the context of the world this show has created. Disappointed they haven't gone looking for the riot gear before zombie killing. Can't be that lazy of writing, and it's too obvious to have not been considered. Wonder what the rationale is?

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 8:49 p.m. CST

    It's about fucking time!

    by Paul Paradis

    This show's actually good when they don't spend the entire episode talking about feelings, and boring the hell out of the viewers.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 9:02 p.m. CST

    Wow. Well done

    by GreatOne4

    2 really great episodes so far, minor nitpicks aside. Well done, Mazzara.

  • As what happens when they get bit - saliva/bile gets inside the wound killing them. You have a cut on your hand, get blood inside your mouth or tear duct, etc., you'll die and turn.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Here's the problem I'm having with this show at this point

    by Richard Cranium

    This show has made me dislike every one of these characters so much that there's absolutely no tension left. I mean other than maybe Glen and Maggie, is there anybody left on this show that you want to root for? The rest of these doofuses just serve to remind me why this planet might be better off if human civilization were to end completely.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Where did the show suggest the danger of bodily fluids?

    by heylookoverthere

    I just started watching tonight's episode, but I don't ever remember hearing that.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 9:35 p.m. CST

    Baby miscarries. Zombie baby claws its way out of Lori.

    by jimbojones123

    MAKE IT SO!!!!!

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 9:38 p.m. CST

    I have a feeling The Governor will be more Negan than The Governor.

    by jimbojones123

    Just from the promo stuff we have seen, he acts much more like Negan from #103.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 10:03 p.m. CST

    @greatone re: blood

    by Thomas

    I think we are meant to understand that its not the blood or saliva getting inside that is what is deadly about a bite. Everyone is infected so the blood doesn't matter... the bites are deadly for some reason, and you turn because you die from the bite, not because of swapping bodily fluid

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 10:05 p.m. CST

    heylookoverthere: why do you think people die after getting bitten?

    by GreatOne4

    It's the saliva/blood/bile that gets into the wound that kills the person and zombifies them. Why else did you think a bite killed someone?

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Way too many problems.

    by NOBLOODNODALLAS

    The whole point of a show like this is how to survive given the premise. If you skip several months of show time, the whole point is lost. If you skip the winter and assume they survived, then you can skip everything. Hersh should be dead right now. You don't have to be a surgeon to know that without cauterizing the wound and giving him a blood transfusion immediately, he will die fast. There's an infirmary that Anakin found. Why not try to get hersh there fast. Oh, I know. So they can have a moment of drama between son and mother. Why does Carol have to practice a cesarian? Was that how Carl was born? Can Lori not have birth the old fashioned way? Did I miss a line of dialogue? Was her practice only to establish that they are being watched?

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 10:13 p.m. CST

    @noblooddallas

    by Thomas

    You did, in fact, miss a line of dialogue. She said that was how carl was born.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 10:15 p.m. CST

    @greatone

    by Thomas

    You are just making the assumption that it is the blood/bile that kills you when you get bit. It has never been stated that that is the case, though I can't think of a plausible alternative

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 10:18 p.m. CST

    Talking Dead

    by MovieManStill

    Why is Whil Wheaton a "genius"? Just curious.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 10:21 p.m. CST

    I miss first-season Rick

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    Especially the first half, when he was a lone gunslinger. When he met up with his family (way too soon), that's when the series nose-dived for me.

  • ...finding an foreboding building and having to enter it to further their quest? coming up on the dead corpse with the KEY to open their adventure to the next level? and how the camera shots where just like a RE game? walking around in darkness with just a flashlight and hearing sounds? limited ammo?? basic weapons?? trying to find MORE weapons?? felt like i was playing Resident Evil 2 on N64 :)

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 10:30 p.m. CST

    I must admit, I kinda liked Rick as a man on a journey too.

    by Randy

    It's sad season 1 was only 6 episodes, I felt like there was room for more episodes with just Rick.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 10:50 p.m. CST

    Why bites/scratches kill

    by Alientoast

    The danger is essentially that whatever funky mutant bacteria lives on the walkers getting into your blood stream. When that happens, you basically get ultra sepsis and die.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 10:52 p.m. CST

    My problem with the blood being a death sentence

    by heylookoverthere

    Is that is suggests that what, there are two separate viruses? One that zombifies you which everyone is infected with and another that kills you so you can become a zombie? That doesn't make a lot of sense. The show needs to clarify this, I think. As far as we know there was no reason to kill "Big Tiny" or cut off Hershel's leg.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 10:59 p.m. CST

    My problems with this show

    by jedimast3r

    You know what, no one fucking cares. <p>If you have such misgivings about a ragtag group of people surviving A ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE, then don't watch. Your voice means nothing. The writers are going to write (from a pre established plotline), and what you need to do is just watch. If everything happened just the way you wanted it to then you'd bitch about the shows predictability. <p>Season 3 is bad ass, and will be the shows best even if they don't go all the way with the comic's material. Non-readers will be sufficiently shocked if they include just a fraction of the events of The Governor's story arc.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 11:35 p.m. CST

    @jedimast3r Don't sweat it

    by mrbonefish

    They are trolling. Only morons wouldn't love this show. Best thing by far on tv. Oh, Rick and his machete had me yelling for joy.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 11:41 p.m. CST

    bites/infection answer

    by mrgray

    While the TV show has taken a few turns away from the comic, I believe that Kirkman's rationale regarding bites is the same. There's one virus, which turns you into a zombie. Getting bit is a bad thing because zombie mouths are full of highly infectious bacteria. It's sort of what alientoast said, except that answer implies that there's a second virus. And Rick cut off Herschel's foot/calf to stop that bacterial infection from spreading.

  • Oct. 21, 2012, 11:45 p.m. CST

    also, why all the carl hate?

    by mrgray

    The kid is not nearly as bad as some TV kids. I'll take Carl over Walt any day. Walt just sat around and bitched about his dog and his dead mom all the time. Or hung out with creeper Locke. I'll *definitely* take Carl over Dawn in her first screamy teenage hormone season of Buffy.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 12:03 a.m. CST

    I thought the reason to cut off the leg was to have a clean wound.

    by jimbojones123

    The gnawed up calf was never going to recover. If you make a clean cut, he may survive. Made perfect sense to me.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 12:41 a.m. CST

    moviemanstill

    by lock67ca

    Wil is actually a pretty cool guy, if not a genius. It's Wesley Crusher that sucks. Can't blame him for a shitty, poorly written character.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 12:44 a.m. CST

    That explanation makes some sense

    by heylookoverthere

    But you're telling me you'd bash someone's head in because of the risk of infection and sepsis?

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 1:15 a.m. CST

    I'm really starting to not give a shit about this show.

    by Epsilon

    I'll tune in after Dexter and Homeland are over, but I just don't care about any of the characters. I miss Shane. Hell, even Dale. They made it somewhat interesting. The rest of them ... any one of them could die and I wouldn't care the slightest bit. I miss wonderfully unpredictable Shane.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 2:11 a.m. CST

    not real familiar with the source material

    by Have_Penis_Will_Travel

    but carl can't die soon enough for me sullen brat always putting himself and the group in danger for no other reason than to just disobey he's worse than kate from lost at least she was fun to look at

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 3:01 a.m. CST

    Are they not carriers of the disease already?

    by WeylandYutani

    I don't understand why they cut off Hershel's leg to prevent the spread of the zombie pathogen if they already carry the infection. Can someone explain this? How would cutting off the leg at the knee right when they were attacked help Hershel's chances instead of trying to sterilize the wound or the amputation tools first and set things up to minimize his chances from bleeding out?

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 3:07 a.m. CST

    Same thing with the big prisoner...

    by WeylandYutani

    Why were his back scratches a death sentence? He already carried the zombie disease. He may have died from a secondary infection and then turned full zombie, but why are they sure that he was done for before the secondary infection set in? I don't get it.

  • Cauterizing an amputation is actually not recommended, opens the are up for infection and kills lots of tissue (dead tissue means more stuff that needs to be cut off). And there are heaps and heaps of cases of people losing limbs without medical aide and surviving. Also, with no electricity, an infirmary would basically just be a room with medical supplies, nothing magical or special about the room that'd be of more benefit. If you can bring the supplies to the patient, there's no reason to needlessly rush someone in critical condition to another room, especially being that the room he's in is in a part of the prison that's been cleared, while the infirmary is in part of the prison that still has walkers roaming around.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 4:13 a.m. CST

    They've seen what being bitten does

    by Bass Ackwards

    So they know how that turns out (its why they spent the whole time with Herschel waiting to see if he breaks into a fever). And they had a character in the first season who was bit and they cleaned and tended to the wound but that didn't stop the bite from killing him, so they know tending/sterilizing only the wound won't help. Presumably the zombie pathogen is something that only kicks in when they're dead, so they weren't cutting off the leg to prevent the spread of the zombie infection, but to stop whatever it is about the zombie bites that kill you. But did it have to be done immediately, could it have been just as effective to wait and sterilize everything? Maybe. Neither we nor the characters really know how the bites kill, that was just the decision that was made right then right there.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 5:49 a.m. CST

    Another good epsiode

    by rakesh patel

    2 for 2 we're on a roll. Pity the prisoners have been depleted, but that was pity hilarious that they went hammer and tong to beat up the walkers despite instruction to go for the heads. i got no faults with this ep, pretty much went like clockwork. although carols insistence for a test zombie was perhaps a tad premature for the particular time. I'm liking the fact its looking at all the options, including killing all of the prisoners. He's not fucking about any more and he realises its survival of the fittest. Which kinda leaves me wondering about Hershels fate. having a one legged guy in this situation is a dead weight, yeah he's a vet, but push comes to shove trying to get out of a sticky situation, a one legged dude isn't gonna cut it. So yes, i hope he survives, but ultimately, he's gonna have bitten with ( perhaps with someone else who is looking after him) to remind them that it truly is survival of the fittest. That Carl gets around raiding the infirmary by himself now. Is a playing a moody teenager ? ALthough i kinda get why he did this, he heard that hersel needed bandages, everyone else was busy, he was the only one left, he felt the need to help. RIck does needs to have a sit down and explain ground rules. all fair and well telling him when leaving him behind he's the last man to look after shit, but he's still a kid in a zombie apocalypse and will do stupid shit. Enough already on the carl gets everywhere shit though, we had enough of that in season 2. The preview of ep 3 looks good also. I like the fact that michonne and andrea have a separate arc. like lost, having multiple story arcs that leads into each other ( as long as continuity wise it plays right) will work really well. I'm also not averse to having a flashback ( i still think darabont's solider in the tank idea was great, and that idea doesn't have to die with him off the show) Nicely done Walking Dead Team.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 5:52 a.m. CST

    bites / blood splatter / infection

    by rakesh patel

    this has been discussed before. having the whole group head to toe in armour every epsiode would look ridiculous. yes they probably would be infected by the amount of blood spatter. but the bite as a reason why you get infected plays out better for dramatic effect.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 5:55 a.m. CST

    Rick Grimes brought the badass!

    by IamHERE

    Damn excellent season so far. Hate to say it but dropping darabont might of been the best thing for the show.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 6:31 a.m. CST

    RE: weylandyutani

    by Mission Code Z

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 6:33 a.m. CST

    RE: weylandyutani

    by Mission Code Z

    They weren't going to execute him then and there on the spot. They were deciding to at least quarantine him, until Lunatic went all out on his head....kinda making it a moot point rather quickly.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 7:11 a.m. CST

    Rick should be inducted into the Badass Hall of Fame.

    by Fries Against

    Machete to the head. No hesitation. Bring it.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 7:55 a.m. CST

    They're all carriers of the disease..?

    by Hipshot

    Are they, really? Who said that, and upon what evidence? Did some scientific commission examine a thousand survivors and find the Zombie virus in all, or did a country doctor, or worse, a sheriff with no technical training propose this as a theory? The fact is that it is a theory they have proposed to explain a very limited range of observed phenomena. It is an interesting theory, but assuming it is fact could be dangerous. The fact is that there IS NO ANSWER for this situation that is rooted in science. The entire "living dead" situation violates basic laws of entropy. It has nothing to do with science, and is a supernatural, fantasy situation. All their theories are bullshit, the conscious rational mind trying to make sense of a situation that will drive them all insane if they aren't careful. All their theorizing will come to exactly nothing...so the writers can make it up any way they want, as long as they more or less play by consistent rules.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 8:07 a.m. CST

    mission code z

    by WeylandYutani

    But why were they even concerned at all? Yes they were deep cuts, but the big guy was barely in any pain, so as long as the he has the wounds cleaned, stitched and dressed, he may have been fine. Yet every character was convinced he was dead and didn't know it. I don't follow how if every character is infected, then who cares if they get cut or bitten by a walker? It made no sense to cut off Herschel's leg on the spot without assessing the bone and tissue damage and there was no reason to kill, or even quarantine, the big prisoner... Neither were in danger of contracting the walking dead, they already have it.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Episode 3.1 exceptionally dumb moment:

    by Lone Fox

    When they wade into the courtyard and armoured zombies attack. Everyone had a dumbfounded look on their faces as bullets/crowbars/etc bounced off the riot helmets. Until Maggie lifted a visor and stabbed a zombie through the neck. Suddenly the rest are like WOAH GREAT IDEA. Aside from that and the time wasting singalong scene, it was a good episode. The group dynamic has changed, already a far better show than the first 2 seasons. Oh yeah, why didn't they all arm up with riot shields when they went exploring? Oh well....

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 8:16 a.m. CST

    hipshot

    by WeylandYutani

    It was pointed out several times in the series as a point of exposition. It may have even been revealed by the scientist at the CDC in season 1 (I don't recall for sure). But so far, the characters, and thus the audience, have worked on the premise that the living carries the disease until they are proven otherwise. I think it was even said in dialogue last night that the survivors carry the disease, but it is essentially dormant until they expire... Then the virus, bacteria, prion or whatever takes over.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 8:22 a.m. CST

    bass ackwards

    by WeylandYutani

    Question: were other victims just bitten, or did they have other mortal wounds? Not trolling, I honestly can't recall... I kinda assumed that deaths in the past were due to the severity of the wound. Great handle BTW.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 8:24 a.m. CST

    The look on Rick's face when Daryl helps him up. Priceless.

    by SID 8.0

    You knew Tomas was dead no matter what. Loving this season more and more. Oh and cut Carl a break he's going through early puberty in a zombie apocalypse.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 8:28 a.m. CST

    @hipshot

    by Thomas

    the scientist at the CDC told Rick that everybody was infected, its not just guessing

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 8:30 a.m. CST

    @weyland

    by Thomas

    There was a bite victim in season 1 who didn't have a mortal wound but was killed because of the bite, I forget his name.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Legit Question Here...

    by BilboRing

    If everyone on earth is already infected and will become a zombie when they die (unless they die by brain injury), why would getting just a bite cause you to get sicker and sicker until you die and become a zombie? I would think as long as you don't die the wound would just heal. It's not like a bite will infect you because you are already infected. Is this a plot hole or will this be explained? I never read the comics.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 8:46 a.m. CST

    @bilboring

    by Thomas

    That has not been explained either in the show or in the comic, at least that I can remember. I would like to see that answered, if only just to satisfy my curiosity.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 8:54 a.m. CST

    bilboring

    by eric haislar

    The Virus is dormant in you until you die them it brings you back as a zombie. If you are bitten by a zombie the bite will activate the dormant virus within you. You get a fever and die then become a zombie.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 8:59 a.m. CST

    I personally liked the mouth-to-mouth scene..

    by SlickyVonBoner

    Hershel had stopped breathing and Rick's wife goes to give him CPR. If it works.. he lives. If it fails.. your face might be bitten off by a reborn zombie-Hershel. Cool moment. Little things like that make you think what you would do in that situation.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 9 a.m. CST

    Nagger et al

    by Hipshot

    If the CDC said it, that raises the certainty, that's for sure. A few things, as a science fiction writer who has worked these fields before: 1) Characters saying something doesn't make it true. If the NARRATOR says it, then that is law, because the narrator is "God" in the world of the story. But characters can be wrong. 2) If the CDC says it, then we can reasonably assume that it is true--unless it isn't. It may be bullshit plot contrivance, but people lie. 3) If the CDC says it, and means it to the best of their ability, there is still plenty of room to theorize that a "zombie virus" which behaves totally different from any biological organism in human history (it breaks the laws of physics, folks) could easily have as many variants as human diseases, and would be more difficult to analyze--there would be no precursors. So imagine that "Type One" is in all humans, and latent. After you die some latent effect transforms it to "Type Two" which animates dead tissue and is also ferociously and aggressively toxic, killing within minutes or hours. ## The truth is that we've been wrong about diseases, they mutate, and have different effects on different people at different times. They have a wide world of possibilities, so long as the writers are willing to stop, slow down, and think about their situation. I hope they do. Unless, of course, they continue to make T-Dawg a caricature, in which case they may all go and fuck themselves.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Re: T-Dawg

    by Thomas

    I believe his remaining time may be short. Then again, I've been saying that since season 1

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 9:53 a.m. CST

    weylandyutani

    by Bass Ackwards

    I can't remember if Andreas sister was mortally wounded in addition to being bitten now that I think about it, but there was the guy (Jim?) who just got bitten, we watched how the bite worked through him as they tried to rush him to the CDC.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 10:16 a.m. CST

    bite/scratch = severe infection,sickness and death

    by mike

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Nagger

    by Hipshot

    I've heard that as well, from a trusted source who says he knows the writing staff. ,We'll see. Poor T-Dawg...we hardly knew ye.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 11:20 a.m. CST

    normally bite. = infection. maybe requires piercing of the skin

    by rakesh patel

    then why is hershel is alive? or maybe he's alive but not for long. if he does stay alive then it must be something to do with the skin and not fluids. because a bite infecting his bloodstream would travel around the body far quicker then it took to hack his leg. maybe the bit wasnt deep enough.. or maybe they were wrong about big tiny and could have locked him up ( although who wants to deal with a 7ft huge zombie) merle's not a zombie. he cut his hand off, but wasnt bitten or scratched.

  • OK, so where's the proof???

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 11:41 a.m. CST

    I have no idea why my other reply was truncated. Here it is, again...

    by hockey2112

    OK, so where's the proof???

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 11:42 a.m. CST

    by hockey2112

    Jesus, people. Have any of you been paying attention??? At the end of last season, Rick revealed to the group what the CDC doctor whispered to him: that everyone is infected with the pathogen that turns you into a zombie when you die. --OK, so where's the proof???-- Uh... how about when Shane was stabbed to death by Rick in the field? Shane had not been bitten, scratched, or otherwise molested by zombies. Yet he came back as a walker after Rick killed him. Remember????? Hence, you die, you turn into a walker... end of story. Need more proof of that? How about the kid who Shane killed. He was not bitten, yet he turned into a walker. --OK, so what's the danger in the bites? Why did they kill Tiny and chop off Herschel's leg if they are already infected? Can't they just recover from their wounds and be OK?-- They live in a world with little to no medicine, including painkillers and antibiotics. Both men had gnarly wounds caused by walkers that either inserted rotten blood or rotten saliva into their bloodstreams. You've seen how nasty the zombies look, right? Common sense dictates that all dead things, including walkers, are covered in all sorts of nasty, deadly bacteria. That bacteria causes a severe fever and sepsis (blood poisoning) which will kill you. Once you are dead, you turn into a zombie because of the pre-existing pathogen... NOT because of the bite itself! Rick and Daryl were seemingly ready to simply quarantine Tiny. It was psycho dude who caved his head in. RE: Herschel's leg... they had just been running for their lives from a group of walkers and locked themselves in the cafeteria. For all they knew, they were surrounded by walkers and it could take days to get out... they had to act fast to do anything they could to keep Herschel's impending severe bacterial infection at bay, hence the leg chop. I can't believe those points really needed explaining. Try paying attention next time.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Drupal commenting system on this site needs work

    by hockey2112

    The Drupal commenting system on this site needs work. My prior reply was truncated before and after the quotation marks I put around my post's first question (OK, so where's the proof???). Once I removed those quotation marks, my reply was posted successfully. As a Drupal developer, I find this to be a very odd and annoying quirk, and I hope the AICN web team fixes it post haste.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 12:24 p.m. CST

    hockey

    by WeylandYutani

    I agree with you and I mentioned the CDC reveal above as well. But, as for Tiny, the inmates talked about quarantine, which the main cast seemed to be partial to the idea, but the conversation did suggest he was a dead man. As for Herschel, I am sure that you're right and that the decomposing zombies have loads of bacteria and dangerous germs, but hacking off someone's leg is just as dangerous. He could have bled out, died of shock or a heart attack, not to mention, there is still a gaping wound susceptible to all types of infection. I think both moments had more to do with writers that have not quite worked out how this infection works and a desire to create a dramatic and gory moment rather than in-universe continuity.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 3:01 p.m. CST

    hockey2112, that makes sense but does not 100% satisfy

    by BilboRing

    But I guess that is the best answer so far. Personally I think the writers are still trying to figure it out and until the show explains it, it will always be up for debate.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 3:22 p.m. CST

    mjs_cold_lifeless_guilty_corpse

    by BikerZero

    so i know, i know i am late to the party, but i don't have anything to say about the walking dead. but there is one thing i know for sure, and this is by judging his post, but the douche-bag using the moniker mjs_cold_lifeless_guilty_corpse is severly an ASSHOLE. i mean come on dude, lighten the fuck up. Get the fuck over yourself.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 3:26 p.m. CST

    I want a T-Shirt that says "I'm Rick Grimes, Bitch!"

    by blackmantis

    With the shot of his machete in Tomas's head.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Not a bad second episode. *WARNING: BOOK and SHOW SPOILERS*

    by Sithtastic

    Many who have read the books remember that the prison is where Rick kind of fell down, in terms of leadership (at least in the eyes of the group). In the show, it's taken all of 2 episodes this season to show just how dark things have gotten for him. I'm not sure if I like where this is going, but I'm going to stick with it (characterwise). The introduction the prisoners was great, but wow, they're killing them off hella fast. Book readers remember the drama that unfolded with one of the prisoners and the group, particularly Tyresse's family (and I seriously lament that they haven't brought in Tyreese). But all of this is just me pining for the book. This has been a good season thus far and I am interested to see where it leads.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 4:03 p.m. CST

    The bacteria thing makes sense, but it needs to be clarified on the show.

    by heylookoverthere

    I'm obviously not a doctor, but I don't think any bacteria can kill you that fast. Remember when T-Dog cut his arm on a car door and got some kinda infection or something? Dale had to provide antibiotics? I wonder if he still has anymore and if they'd be at all effective against zombie bites.

  • Yuk. Mom's worse nightmare. Love this season so far, though.

  • make moms happy

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 4:43 p.m. CST

    weylandyutani...

    by hockey2112

    RE: Tiny, keep in mind that the zombie who scratched him was the one who had just pulled his hand through the handcuff, leaving behind a bloody mix of finger bones and tissue. For all intents and purposes, it "stabbed" Tiny with bacteria-laden, blood-soaked finger daggers. That's why they all thought he was a dead man... he was drastically exposed to a huge payload of nastiness in an area that would be difficult to treat and/or amputate. RE: Herschel, the group has seen what a bite can do. See Jim from season one who got big on the stomach. If I recall correctly, that bite wasn't even as extreme as Herschel's. Yes, hacking off his leg is risky for the reasons you mentioned, but that risk when compared to the "sure thing" death warrant that a zombie bite represents makes the decision to cut off his leg much easier. It did take Jim a little time to succumb to his bite infection. It wasn't a matter of him getting bitten and immediately dying. Hell, it took Andrea's sister until the following day to reanimate, and she was killed on the spot by the zombie from a huge, gaping bite wound to the neck, mere inches from the brain. It stands to reason that Herschel's bite, being the furthest from the brain out of all three characters, would take the longest to kill him, so maybe they did have time to treat him otherwise. However, the fact that they were trapped at that very moment, coupled with the fact that even if they wait a day to treat him and/or amputate that the bacteria would have spread enormously inside of his system, both lead to the same "cut it off now" decision.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Spoil me again

    by Truxton Spangler

    I was under the impression that the prison was where we'd find the Governor? It seems he'll make his first appearance next week, but it looked like he had control of a town (amongst other things), not just a prison. Are they two different venues, or are there more unexplored parts of the prison the group is in yet to be revealed? The bit with Carol being watched implies that latter. And I thought the big prisoner dude who got scratched (and quickly killed) was supposed to be some kind of major character? At least vato #2 was dispensed with quickly. This dude was a better actor than the nursing home guy, but still not convincing.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Everybody is Infected/ CDC

    by FuckOffChristopherNolanNutHuggers

    To the person asking about how they knew everybody was infected: In the 5th episode of the first season, the survivors arrive at the Center for Disease Control, where sole surviving scientist Dr. Jenner (Noah Emmerich) has remained since the zombie apocalypse --- working diligently on a potential cure, but the last of his "Fresh" samples were destroyed in an accident. Drunk, without hope and contemplating suicide he is suddenly alerted to the presence of Rick and the others. He hesitates, but opens up the doors when Rick pleads to the surveillance cameras to let them in. In the 6th episode of the first season, Jenner tells them that they are welcome only if they all give blood samples. He explains in this episode that his wife was bitten, and offered herself to the tests in an effort to find a cure. The infection from the bite eventually killed her, and then she returned and he had to kill her (again) ... but he still remained at the CDC, continuing his research and tests, working hard. He was familiar with virus and how it works, and I am assuming he was familiar with it enough to discover that everyone carries it when he examined everyone's, and possibly his own, blood samples. They don't exactly explain what happened or how everyone got infected, but I thought/assumed that the "Everyone's infected" is a genuine fact in the series and explained well enough by non-comic character Dr. Jenner... I could be wrong, but it makes sense to me.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 4:59 p.m. CST

    re: Drupal commenting system on this site needs work

    by Truxton Spangler

    I wouldn't hold your breath. After the last big meltdown, there were allusions to some big site revamp that has yet to appear.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 5:04 p.m. CST

    the hotness of Lori Grimes?

    by Jason

    Um, no.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 5:16 p.m. CST

    @ Truxton Spangler (Comic Spoilers Inside)

    by FuckOffChristopherNolanNutHuggers

    You were miss-informed. In the comics, The group of survivors find the prison, take it over, discover prisoners, deal with a whodunit murder in which wrong man gets accused, Rick goes really dark, his leadership and mental health are questioned, etc... it's actually a while after discovering the prison that Rick, Michonne and Glen go out in search of the helicopter, which leads them to Woodbury and face to face with Phillip, the Governor... The show has altered some stuff (like Michonne and Andrea finding each other and then the Woodbury peeps... They're actually speeding through some of the massive Prison/Woodbury arc (But 16 episodes isn't nearly enough for the show runners to capture everything from that arc..) And no, Big Tiny wasn't a character from the comics... Actually, Tomas, who got the machete to the face, was a combination of Dexter (A big black man who admitted to surving time for the murder of his wife and her boyfriend... and falsely accused of the deaths of Hershel’s twin daughters in the prison) and Thomas, who actually killed the twins. Hope this helps..

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Oh and Truxton I forgot to mention this:

    by FuckOffChristopherNolanNutHuggers

    The whole time spent on the Prison story before we meet the Gov contributes to a slight Parallel between Rick and Phillip

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Why bites kill you...

    by Nick

    I always assumed, working on the theory that all living people are infected, that once you die and become a zombie, something else takes place in your body. I mean we are talking about a disease that brings the dead back to life. So would it be that far of a stretch to suggest that maybe zombie saliva has some sort of dangerous toxin in it. Its only transmitted through saliva not through blood? Killing Big Tiny wasnt everyones idea, old boy just hauled off and smashed his dome in. If he hadn't killed him we might have figured out that a scratch wont kill you only a bite does. So thats the way i justify it in my brain. If the virus brings the dead back to life with very limited motor skills and no real defense or attack mechanisms its not out of the realm of possiblity that the walkers would aquire some sort of weapon to kill their prey, and what more perfect weapon do you have than thier spit to imobilize you when they decide to eat your ass.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Very good episode

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    They seem to have found their feet. Excellent stuff. Loved Carl going off again. And this time doing the right thing, and coming back with the meds. "I killed two walkers". Its second nature to him now, which is good. And like the comics, there arent any real kids anymore in this world. You grown up hard and fast, or die. Carl in the comics is only 8, and carrys a gun and kills walkers. Granted Carls done some serious killing in the comics so far. There's one killing carl does in the comics I doubt they would dare do now, when he murders another child (who has just killed his twin, because right and wrong mean nothing to kids anymore. All the adults dont know what to do, so Carl goes into then kids room and shoots him! lol. Aged 7 or 8. Ahh, good times :) @ Truxton. The Governor is in charge of a town called Woodbury, a few miles away from the prison.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Regarding the virus and blood

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    I guess its zombie canon. its always been that way. These arguements still hold up for Dawn and Day back in the 70's/80s. Its just pre-internet, we never discussed the fuck out of every bit of minutiae. Nothing can hold up to the scrutiny of the geekascope. I must admit I wince when I see blood and fluids every. When I saw Daryl rip and arrow from a walkers head as he ran past. If he had even nicked his finger on the tip as he did that, surely he would have got the disease from that? People have got AIDS from less shit than that. A dentist with a cut on his finger transmitted it once. Its a tough one to get over, tbh. Best not think about it lest it ruin the otherwise rather impressive awesomeness that has been going on the past two weeks.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Make it like it was in season 1.

    by Jackson

    It was so much better then. I hope The Governor brings things back to normal. Actually no, if I'm not as satisfied with The Governor as I was in the comics, than it's hopeless.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Got it. Thanks.

    by Truxton Spangler

    My misconception about the prison and the town being the same thing. I suppose the copter we've been teased with on the show post-apocalypse belongs to the Gov, and not some functioning remnant of the military. I had read that it would be revealed at some point; I guess we're there. What sucks is how they've split the season and half is will show the latter in 2013.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 7:24 p.m. CST

    nobloodnodallas , you are a FUCKING IDIOT.

    by Nick

    Okay, so to get Herschel to the infirmary, they would have to take him into areas that haven't been cleared out yet. Carl STATED (you deaf fuck) that he killed walkers along the way. Also, if you knew anything about a females body, and how child birth works, you would know that a healthy female who ended up giving birth via C-Section obviously had problems the first time she gave birth. After having a C-section, your next delivers have a higher chance of having to be done via C-section. Also, you deaf FUCK, if you listen, you would have heard Carol say, "She had Carl via C-section, so there is a strong chance she may need one again". Seriously, fucktards, pay attention to the show. if you spend half the time you spend on hear BITCHING, listening, you wouldn't have any of the problems you do.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Truxton

    by FuckOffChristopherNolanNutHuggers

    Not a problem. Hope the "You were Miss informed" didn't come off as douchey/asshole-ish With the helicopter, who knows. In the comics, it wasn't the Gov's people, but the show alters a lot from the comics (Shane survivng a lot longer, Sofia biting it, etc.) so it's hard to tell. I hear you on the split season thing. I was annoyed during season 2 when I started seeing the "only five more episodes left until the mid-seaosn finale"... I understand the need for the break christmas season and NFL playoffs/Superbowl... (hard to compete with ratings) but I felt like the wait between season 2's ending and season 3's start was an eternity.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 7:40 p.m. CST

    @ NataliePortmansYummyAfterbirth

    by FuckOffChristopherNolanNutHuggers

    Amen, brotha. F the haters.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Here's how the virus ACTUALLY works...pay attention.

    by Baked

    The virus is airborne. Everyone is infected. When you die, you turn. Rotting flesh is a cocktail of the worst possible shit. And human mouths are disgusting cesspools of filth with millions of bacteria in them including strep. The bite doesn't kill you. The bite infects you with strep and hep and all other sorts of bacteria that human mouths are full of. But if you get it in your blood stream, you get an infection and you get a fever and you get sick and EVENTUALLY you'll probably die without antibiotics. So, it's not the bite that turns you. It's the bite that infects you unless you can cut off the limb before the infection spreads. BUT!!! If you cut off a motherfucker's leg, you have to make sure he doesn't die from blood loss. If he does, he'll turn. If a zombie bites your throat and rips it wide open (Andrea's sister Amy), you'll die in minutes and then turn soon after. There's a story that more people died from infection in the Civil War than actual bullet wounds. We're pretty much back in the civil war days without antiseptic, listerine, hand soap, betadyne, and amoxycillin. If you leave the bite alone, they probably die. If you cut the bite out, they'll still probably die.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Here's how the virus ACTUALLY works...pay attention.

    by Baked

    The virus is airborne. Everyone is infected. When you die, you turn. Rotting flesh is a cocktail of the worst possible shit. And human mouths are disgusting cesspools of filth with millions of bacteria in them including strep. The bite doesn't kill you. The bite infects you with strep and hep and all other sorts of bacteria that human mouths are full of. But if you get it in your blood stream, you get an infection and you get a fever and you get sick and EVENTUALLY you'll probably die without antibiotics. So, it's not the bite that turns you. It's the bite that infects you unless you can cut off the limb before the infection spreads. BUT!!! If you cut off a motherfucker's leg, you have to make sure he doesn't die from blood loss. If he does, he'll turn. If a zombie bites your throat and rips it wide open (Andrea's sister Amy), you'll die in minutes and then turn soon after. There's a story that more people died from infection in the Civil War than actual bullet wounds. We're pretty much back in the civil war days without antiseptic, listerine, hand soap, betadyne, and amoxycillin. If you leave the bite alone, they probably die. If you cut the bite out, they'll still probably die.

  • Oct. 22, 2012, 10:09 p.m. CST

    How 'bout a cameo of Francis, Zoey, Bill & Louis?

    by obijuanmartinez

    Maybe Coach, Nick, Rochelle & Ellis? But on a side-car note, the interesting thing about the characters in the first L4D game was that they were all 'immune' to the airborne virus (though one presumes they'd turn if bitten...)

  • Throw that into every episode and I'm a happy viewer, by golly!

  • Oct. 23, 2012, 5:13 a.m. CST

    zombie herds

    by william

    At this point i would think the herds would be stretching out. The oldest ones should be decomposing and should be severely movement impaired. It seems like you could just wait it out and months or years later just encounter the random walker snd just scoop the rest up off the road and spike it. If this is not happening or does not happen sooonish it suggests something else is going on, instead of a zombie we might have a mummy if the virus preserves them. If the most infectious ones are the rotting ones would the ones that are better preserved be less infectious, or less dangerous, or more dangerous because they move better or last longer? Honestly my first strategy would have been to hole up somewhere and let them rot to pieces.

  • Oct. 23, 2012, 7:41 a.m. CST

    Think I need to stop reading TWD talkbacks

    by judge dredds fresh undies

    Sick of fucking cunts posting spoilers from the comic. Also, do people remember who the talkbacker was that kept insisting the show would be cancelled before this season? Even after it was recommisioned, what a tool, hahahaha.

  • Oct. 23, 2012, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Make the zombies threatening again please...

    by Andrew Coleman

    I loved the first season. Second season was alright. This season is starting to suck. If a hand full of survivors can kill hundreds of zombies... Where was the threat? A special forces unit should be able to kill thousands then. I'm getting bored with the utterly stupid zombies just walking up and getting stabbed in the head. Then they introduce the prisoners... Then kill almost all of them off. Yawn. On top of that most of the remaining survivors are really boring. Kill off half of them... Do something! Not for one second was I worried that the old douche would survive. Not one second. This show has become boring and predictable. Time to change it up. They need to expand the zombie cannon. They need to become smarter. Make game plans. Like the zombies in season one who used rocks to smash the glass doors. Getting real bored with this "walk up and die" zombies they have these first three episodes. When it comes to the problem of if everyone is infected why do bites and scratches matter? I basically believe that zombies have like plague mouth or AIDS mouth. So diseased it's like instant death.

  • Oct. 23, 2012, 1:09 p.m. CST

    @kidicarus

    by hockey2112

    Wow, that would make an awesome show! You should apply for the next open writer position at AMC.

  • Oct. 23, 2012, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Your virus/disease theories are all shit!!!!

    by BilboRing

    If Shane had bitten Rick or the kid you know they would have eventually died and turned into a zombie. Shane was in perfect health and died of a knife wound. AND he was only a zombie for a few seconds so he would not have been covered in terrible bacteria. Until the SHOW or the COMIC actually explains this, then it is just a plot hole. None of your explanations mean shit until it comes from the source. Fuck yeah!!!

  • Oct. 23, 2012, 11:33 p.m. CST

    To those complaining about blood in the eyes and mouth....

    by Felix

    .... and it not making sense that they aren't getting sick and turning, when has it been established that this is a virus? Even in the CDC, they couldn't explain what was happening just that it was. All we know is that anyone who dies will become a zombie and anyone who is bitten.

  • Oct. 24, 2012, 12:31 a.m. CST

    So being covered in rotting flesh and blood from corpses...

    by KGersen

    and having the inevitable cuts and grazes which would occur from running or fighting for your lives daily, does not cause infection? Makes no sense but fuck it, series 3 has started strong and hope it continues that way.

  • Oct. 24, 2012, 9:46 a.m. CST

    myphdisdoom

    by Hipshot

    Zombies, even from as far back as Night of the Living Dead, have always been stupid, even if they have some very basic tool usage. The threat at the beginning was the fact that 1) They were absolutely unprecedented, and therefore triggered massive panic and irrational behavior in humans 2) There were so many of them. You could easily be overwhelmed if outnumbered greatly. 3) A single bite would kill you. ## A special forces unit would indeed be able to kill many of them. Until they ran out of bullets. If they kept their heads initially against something that violates all rationality. People go into shock when confronted by something that violates everything they think they know about the world. the U.S. damned near shut down for weeks because 3000 people died in 9/11. What would have happened if that had been a thousand times as large? And if a matter of supernatural agency as opposed to physics? Yeah, I think most people would fucking fall apart. All that would remain would be the nearly sociopathic survivors, or those fortunate enough to be isolated while society fell apart (pretty much the approach I took in a pair of zombie novels I wrote). The fun is creating the human units, and seeing how they interact with each other under stress.

  • Oct. 24, 2012, 10:14 a.m. CST

    @hockey. The Gelatinous Dead? I'm brainstorming here

    by kidicarus

  • Oct. 24, 2012, 2:20 p.m. CST

    @kidicarus

    by IamHERE

    They explained why the zombies aren't rotted piles of goo by now. In one of the episodes, I think the one where they are in the CDC building, it was explained that the reanimated corpses, due to the virus, decomposed at an incredibly slooooow rate. Once killed again, the bodies rot like normal.

  • Oct. 24, 2012, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Bashing Someone's Head In

    by JustSomeAsshole

    Yes I would bash someone's head in to prevent infection and sepsis. Those are terrible things, the both of them.

  • Oct. 25, 2012, 2:22 a.m. CST

    @iamhere

    by rakesh patel

    slow decom rate really? must have missed it. but at least provides a get out clause

  • Oct. 25, 2012, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Talkback

    by Ward And Al

    We talk about "The Walking Dead" (and "Dexter") a bit on our comedy/entertainment podcast. One of us is full-on in favor of the show. The other is a skeptic. It seems there are those who flat-out defend it. And then those who flat-out hate it. But people always want to lump the slight skeptics in with the haters. That's not always the case. Sure, you have to suspend disbelief at times. But the biggest problem isn't that so much as the characters aren't believable (or likable). Not the zombies...but the humans. The humans don't seem like real people half the time. wardandal.com