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Sony Shuffles Its 2013 Slate - ELYSIUM To The Summer, ROBOCOP To 2014!!
The Kidd here...
It's been nothing but disaster for Jose Padilha's remake of ROBOCOP. From the scathing review of the screenplay (I've since heard it was of an early draft, so who knows what changes may have been made to get to what's in production right now) to the shots of a less than impressive RoboCop suit to rumors of heavy studio interference with the director's vision for the film, it's been one problem after another for this retelling, and it looks like it's only going from bad to worse.
Sony and MGM have yanked ROBOCOP from its previous August 9, 2013 release date, pushing the film all the way back to February 7, 2014. Of course, this is going to get spun as allowing more time for post-productions, visual effects rendering, etc., but don't let that fool you. I've heard from sources that ROBOCOP has some major problems that are going to be virtually impossible to correct, because they're built into the story they're trying to tell. I'd expect this extra time to be used for some pretty hefty reshoots to be added onto the schedule, as the studio tries to piece together some semblance of a film, much like Paramount did with WORLD WAR Z, but it may be too late to really course correct the film without trashing what they've already got in the can and starting all over. And you can bet that's not going to happen, because the last thing these two studios are going to do is close up shop and chalk up their poor decisions to a loss. You'd think the studios would have learned right now when they're investing so much money into some of these bigger budget films to make sure they have a good movie on their hands first before they rush it into production. Staking your claim on a release date doesn't matter much, when the film being released is garbage. Then again, the box office numbers prove people will see the garbage anyway, so, unless there's a shift at the cash register, there's no incentive for that model to be changed.
As a result of the ROBOCOP shift, Neill Blomkamp's ELYSIUM is also getting moved around the calendar. While we were all set to see Blomkamp's newest film since DISTRICT 9 on March 1, we have no choice but to wait a little bit longer now, with Sony/Tri-Star pushing ELYSIUM back to that August 9 release date vacated by the ROBOCOP debacle.
Doesn't it feel like no one's winning in this equation?
-Billy Donnelly
"The Infamous Billy The Kidd"
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I can't wait to see the new robocop. In the same way that I like to watch footage of car crashes
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The new Robocop armor was to blame?
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I feel a little like we are winning.... we won a 2013 without a shitty 'PowerArmor'Cop movie.
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...that any movie is put into production without everyone feeling really good about the script. Problems are surely much cheaper and easier to fix at that stage. I guess I don't understand enough about how the Hollywood machine works. I suppose a lot of packages are put together before a script is complete, and the hope/assumption is that something great will be delivered on schedule. Still seems foolish to me.
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... that'll be what's wrong with Robocop!
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Coz that'll be all its worth!!!
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Oct. 16, 2012, 10:46 a.m. CST
that's ok - I'll just rewatch the original, which was my plan anyway
by MoneyGrabSequel
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Oct. 16, 2012, 10:50 a.m. CST
Hope this piece of garbage is erased from the release schedules PERMANENTLY
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
Just like the Total Recall remake, this pile of crap will be forgotten three seconds after it comes out.
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Robocop looked to be on track for the same; crap. I really thought Dredd was going to suffer the same fate but turned out to be GOOD. Shelve the film, start over. Use the original, brilliant, suit design, but mute the sheen and colors a bit.
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There is only one Robocop and that's Verhovens from 1987.
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That IS right around the time that D9 came out in 2009....just a thought.
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Was so hoping to see an Elysium trailer pretty soon. GDIT.
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Oct. 16, 2012, 11:03 a.m. CST
What Robocop has problems? What after those spy pics, that promised us so much. That amazing new suit, the bare hand, the all black asthetic, the non robo-ness of the thing. Go figure.
by Bradly Durant
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about a cop who goes undercover as a hobo.
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Oct. 16, 2012, 11:08 a.m. CST
You'd think Hollywood would learn it's lesson about remakes by now.
by kindofabigdeal
Shitty filmmaking is shitty filmmaking. If they would only listen to the talkbacks there would not have been a Battleship bomb or a WWZ debacle.
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Oct. 16, 2012, 11:12 a.m. CST
Dredd 3D so utterly and completely rules. Gotta see it again. They should trash this mess and get Weller to do a straight sequel using the Ultra Robocop screenplay I posted here. It
by UltraTron
is so much better than anything we've seen them doing here. The gist of it was so simple yet perfect. Robocop is old tech but still the company's greatest success in the law enforcement arena. They won't retire him and he lives for the job. But new OCP cloning tech allows for murphy to potentially be restored in a new cloned body. He could return to his family as if he were never Robocop if he can clone himself a new body. OCP won't let their mascot near the tech and there's a new threat yada yada. Murphy must fight the final battle to restore his humanity and return to his wife and son. A final act. Closure for Murphy. Or just make a next gen video game called Robocop that is done as good as uncharted series or what have you.
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Oct. 16, 2012, 11:16 a.m. CST
I did like the pic of his wife and kid at OCP checking him out. Like he was being shown off to them and investors or something. Here is your new robo dad kid- enjoy! This remake could be
by UltraTron
sadistic and great. Get it the fuck together cumquots.
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Pretty decent cast but it's gonna be shit. Hugh Laurie is a genius to ditch it!
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..this whole thing is a huge cover up. Elysium is actually shit and in need of reshoots. So the studio commissions a deliberately shit remake of a fan boy favourite, then moves the date back for reshoots thereby giving them a reason to move Elysium without arousing suspicion. It's more likely than marvel making a movie about a talking racoon with a gun.
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Oct. 16, 2012, 11:24 a.m. CST
If it reads like shit and looks like shit.....
by TheRaidKickedYourAss
.....then it's PROBABLY shit! This is the first "real" indicator (from the studio's actions) that this movie may be shit. I hope it won't be, but from the look of the suit, the look of his motorcycle and the feedback from the first draft of the script, this film looked like it swirling down the bowl... :/
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Let me guess, they're going to turn the bad guys into North Koreans?
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Oct. 16, 2012, 11:27 a.m. CST
That sound you're hearing is Paul Verhoeven laughing his ass off
by Joe
TOTAL RECALL remake bombs, ROBOCOP remake gets changed from being a summer tentpole to being a release in the February dumping ground. I wonder if the remake of STARSHIP TROOPERS will still go ahead.
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Oct. 16, 2012, 11:28 a.m. CST
Not too late to just make it a standalone movie instead of a piss poor ROBO remake
by Joe
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...get your shit together and release a 25th Anniversary Deluxe Edition of Robocop with at LEAST a Half Fucking Decent transfer!!! :( Please? :)
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Writing, writing, writing.
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Oct. 16, 2012, 11:31 a.m. CST
Shame I will now have wait for the remastered special edition Blu-ray of Verhoeven's ROBOCOP until 2014
by godoffireinhell
That disc is the only good thing coming from the remake.
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Oct. 16, 2012, 11:32 a.m. CST
theraidkickedmyass, there's nothing wrong with the Criterion Robocop transfer...
by Marc Cerasini
Except that it's out of print and there's no Blu-Ray.
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...1. The RoboCop suit was quite the get-up. The first time Peter Weller put on the suit, it was a 10-hour event that required Allen wrenches. Also, during that summer, the temperature under the suit would reach 120 degrees. Here’s what Weller had to say about it: “It was the most difficult thing I’ve ever done, and — wanna know the truth? — it was the most difficult thing anyone’s ever done. They had to have air-conditioning ducts pointed at me, blowing out freezing air every 20 minutes.” http://popcultureblog.dallasnews.com/2012/07/fun-facts-to-celebrate-the-25th-anniversary-of-robocop.html/
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Let me guess, they're going to turn the bad guys into North Koreans?
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Oct. 16, 2012, 11:50 a.m. CST
Just retitle it ROBOT COP and make it a sendup of the original
by DickBallsworth
Kinda like those knockoff Chinese action figures you find in the 99c stores. Everyone wins.
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I can't comment too much on what that entails, but I can tell you that you'll still see it when you close your eyes, even after you've left the theater.
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and "Total Recall" disappoints at the box office: a wise move. After the images of Robo in full regalia stradling what looks like the bike of Dredd - i must say: release dates do not always mean success. It will never pull in the punters, because of the dark overtones of it's subject - well, maybe with this new sanitised version, but PG-13 is the norm these days.
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If not I hope it does end even before the trailer for the new Robocop movie comes out
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the internetz ftw!
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I was a little let down. I have no doubt it will be visually impressive, but the story wasn't very good. Didn't feel original. And the role that Sharlto Copley plays is just a one-dimensional badass. Think Darth Maul. Just a hired killer but no real motivations or personality.
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As in the studio has no faith that this will be any good.
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... and this remake is not it, nor is it even close. Robocop worked on so many levels and had symbolism that helped craft the story. The underlying story of corporate America taking over everything, including people and turning them into products....coupled with the humanity that Peter Weller brilliantly conveyed even mostly covered by a suit of armor...cannot be duplicated. I wish they would have left the original alone...but at least we will always have the original to share with our children as this remake becomes relegated to the $5 bin at Walmart. -- End of Line --
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Oct. 16, 2012, 12:51 p.m. CST
Sounds like they've realized nobody is going to see their "new cool reimagined" piece of shit
by wcolbert
and are desperately trying to salvage it. too little, too late, unless they redo it from the ground up. then again...I suppose we as the audience are in a pretty cushy place from which to pass judgment so easily. Even with bad films, there are hundreds, maybe thousands of people in various departments who do the best they can to bring a film to life - they don't intend to make a bad movie - it's often just the lack of insight of a few fucking asshats up high who ruin the whole thing. That said, I'm sure Padillha didnt set out to make a shit film. it's not even his fault they're remaking robocop, which didnt NEED a remake to begin with... if he had refused to do it, someone else would have, and so forth. Just...fuck whatever execs insisted it was a good idea to shove this down our throats. No offense to all the decent people just doing their jobs on the film, but I really hope it fails miserably.
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Oct. 16, 2012, 1:03 p.m. CST
It appears that they over designed the whole thing and tried too hard to be bigger, better and cleverer.
by Pigdog
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Someone had to go there...
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You'd think the studios would have learned right now when they're investing so much money into some of these bigger budget films to make sure they have a good movie on their hands first...
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Oh there have been tales throughout Hollywood for decades of films moving through production without finished scripts on hand. Star Trek: The Motion Picture was a great example of Gene Roddenberry typing away on his typewriter in the morning and handing pages to the actors by lunchtime. While I agree that common sense would dictate a finished script by the time the cameras are ready to roll, I would assume that studios at some point tell the production team, "Look, this movie HAS to come out on Release Date X. Make it happen." And so the director, writer(s), and producers have to rush things. Rarely, if ever, does the finished product even come close to what the director had originally envisioned for the film.
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Oct. 16, 2012, 1:24 p.m. CST
DREDD. A lot of talkbackers talked a lot of shit about DREDD before it came it out. Guess what? DREDD was awesome!
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Since a studio is in charge of ROBOCOP, then yes, the odds are against this being a good film. But a great film could still come out of this. Bucky is dead and always will be dead, but Marvel Studios is fucking that up. Your high horse is a rocking horse.
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Pure speculation and rumor. No way to know until *something* comes to life as a trailer and a full feature. Will it be bad? Probably. But I'd rather make that decision when it's actually released and not before. What bothers me most is not a remake of Robocop (which is a stupid thing to do and really rather disrespectful to the original) but that producers, directors, crew and cast are not spending the money, time and energy to bring something completely new into the world. For me, the only time I'm really interested in a remake is if the original is older than I am. Let some time pass before you try to retell a story, please.
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Oct. 16, 2012, 1:35 p.m. CST
@misterdarcy: Don't worry. Hollywood doesn't understand how Hollywood works.
by The Marquis de Side 3
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Oct. 16, 2012, 2:25 p.m. CST
Watching the original now...Omni Consumer Products...what a bunch a morons!
by Mel Garga
It's so damn brilliant, especially the commercials. What film execs fail to understand is that this film captures a mood prevalent in the country at the time about what the future had in store. It'll be a major achievement if this "remake" comes even close to recapturing the magic of the original. The music alone in the original is worth the price of admission. Now get off this TB and take laughing boy with you!
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Oct. 16, 2012, 2:41 p.m. CST
here's hoping there's someone named Dick at Sony losing his job: "Dick... you're FIIRRREEEDDDD!!!!
by Squinty CGI Flynn
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By this logic shouldn't Elysium be in trouble since that's delayed too?
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there are no problems with the Criterion Version... GIMME A FUCKIN SUPERB TRANSFER BITCHES!!
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Oct. 16, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST
Boycott remakes! Viva La Revolución de les Nerds!
by Randall Luttenberg
Tired of having your fondest media memories warmed over and re-served to you like rancid tuna surprise? Don't buy tickets. Persuade your friends not to buy tickets. Sure, you're curious about the new approach, the updated FX, the retconned story... up until the moment you actually see it and find out that it is exactly the disappoinment you always knew it was going to be. Do you really believe that the only letdown will be lame armor? Screw the rebooting, remaking, prequelling culture vultures. Celebrate the originals instead. I'll rewatch Verhoeven's Robocop until the OCP logo is permanently branded into my retina before I spend a penny on that inevitable crapfest of a remake (or, you know, one of the other countless great movies I haven't seen yet).
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so Marvel can buy back Spider-Man in the ensuing firesale.
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Oct. 16, 2012, 3:54 p.m. CST
Ten fokin' months??!! Ok Blomkamp, I'll just wait here, in this fokin' shack, and I'll see you in ten fokin' months, eh?!!
by Aiden Blackwell
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Fuck you, Robocop will rule. Hate hate hate, and your lives will spin away
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Oct. 16, 2012, 4:30 p.m. CST
Robocops had development problems all the way back from part 2.
by Silv
This franchise is like trying to get blood from a stone.
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Oct. 16, 2012, 4:34 p.m. CST
February is the dead zone. This is the studio admitting failure.
by Knuckleface
Stick a fork in it. Only the worst movies get released in February.
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I totally agree with you. It seems totally ridiculous that people would invest 10s or even 100s of millions of dollars on a film before the script is solid.... until you realise its in some peoples' interest for the film to fall apart. Stars often have opt out clauses if a film they've signed to doesn't go into production by a certain date, and the star gets to take a big chunk of money even if he bolts. The other big factor is the intellectual property license. Many films don't get made until the producers realise the license they purchased years ago is about to expire. If they don't get the film into production the license will go back to the copyright holder. In the case of Robocop I think it's so strange that they have script problems. I mean, it's Robocop, you can write that script in a day. Take all the good stuff from the original, update slightly, and sprinkle in a few new plot twists to keep it fresh.
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Oct. 16, 2012, 5:19 p.m. CST
Anyone watch the TRUE SKIN short? you should check it out
by Simpsonian
some mighty fine FX done on a budget. And they can't make the live action Star Wars because the effects can't be done cheaply? http://vimeo.com/51138699
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So this isnt happening now?
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I'm way more interested in Elysium than I am R-cop. Now even more of a wait.
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Guess there won't be a Robocop 2.
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Yeah because this is what happens when your entire plan is just to make money from exploiting nostalgia, they don't give a shit about making the next epic film or statement to the world, they just want to grab a few million by using the name "Robocop" because it's guaranteed to get General Audiences who have fond memories of ol' Robo into seats.. but now that the Internet has spoken about what we think of Hollywood's tireless remake/reboot/reimagining machine, they're getting a vibe (especially after the people finally spoke and didn't go see that piece of shit Total Recall) that maybe just throwing out Robocop in a desperate bid and grab to get recognition dollars isn't such a good idea after all. Aren't Hollywood execs supposed to just handle the money and fund the creative projects they believe in, not insert their own stupid unimaginitive robot unhuman inhuman fucking STUPID ideas into the films? Is making massive amounts of money not enough, now you have to "express" yourself too to show you're NOT a total waste of fucking space and human slime and actually have some meaning to your empty money generating own family hates you worthless piece of shit life? Pretty empty and lonely up there at the top afterall, isn't it? Just not in the way you expected. Idiots.
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So clearly, it will be terrible. Case closed.
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worst...remake...ever. Look how bad Robocop 3 was, and they HAD the correct suit
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Oct. 16, 2012, 8:24 p.m. CST
What i don't get is, if the film is already circling the drain....
by User897
....Then why the FUCK not go to the movie sites and see what the comments and talkbacks have to say? Getting input from fans and those that know a lot about film should be ESSENTIAL to working with a remake of something so adored! IDIOT FUCKS!
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Send Padilha back to his shitty hellhole of a country.
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Oct. 17, 2012, 12:53 a.m. CST
They just remake any of these to keep the rights from reverting.
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
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Seriously, why do it? It's fucking Robocop, you can't mess with a film like that. What I do suggest is that they record the making of Robocop in name only and release that to the world; comedy classic in the making.
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Watching Hollywood studios plot and squirm under the scrutiny of the internet, is on the whole far more entertaining than watching their movies of late. Internet opinions (mine included) count for shit, absolute shit. Dredd was fantastic, loved it, most internet sources were unanimous in this sentiment as well, the movie hasn't made enough money to get you a haircut. Taken 2 has been trounced in its reviews on pretty much every site i could think to look at, but its making enough money to cover Spain's deficit. Quod erat demonstrandum.
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After that horseshit failure called Total Recall these Hollywood people are finally backpedaling a bit on the remake scheme... I hope Robocop remake goes str8 to dvd. Its a piece of shit. It looks like a piece of shit, which is why Im calling it that. sue me. Weller Robocop forever, assholes.
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Oct. 17, 2012, 3:46 a.m. CST
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's ROBOFLOP! Bombing in a theater near you, February 2014!
by Mr. Pricklepants
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Oct. 17, 2012, 3:54 a.m. CST
"Esylium" looks sweet! Anything by Neil Bloomkamp is very welcome.
by albert comin
And maybe the move up of Esylium's release is a good thing, more time for post-production to fine-tune the product.
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I'm such an asshole! Grrrr!!
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I understand your trustration at the remake of Total Recall. I don't have such a negative opinion on the movie as, you mine is not exactly an endorsement either. I think the movie is very mundane, it's quite milquetoast, it's very forgetable. At least very bad movies keep on our memory for a while, bland ones like Total Recall remake quickly fade away. The greatest thing that upsetted me about the remake was how little they took advantage of a fight between Biel and Beckinsale. It could had been the bitch-fight of the century, and instead it was a side-show of Farrel fighting a robot. What a lost oportunity. The movie never recuperated from that. It had very good production values and very good special effects, and i loved Beckinsale as a villain, and Walter White is always welcome, but otherwise, i think i pratically forgot the movie even exists. I even forgot about it when we talk about the 2012 movies. They say oblivion is a fate worst then death.
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You had a brillant idea. I'd watch that.
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Aren't you brazilian as well?
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Oct. 17, 2012, 4:17 a.m. CST
I might suffer the mighty wrath of the talkback saying this
by GavinElster
But I think a Robocop remake actually makes sense : everything that made the original film fresh and relevant at the time has just gone bigger and worse - the rampant poverty in industrial western towns, the rise of all-powerful financial corporations that no government regulation seems to be able to stop, the increasingly addictive nature of our relationship with the machines around (and soon inside of) us..... So yeah, I think this might be the right time to remake Robocop, as a statement of how further down the toilet everything has gone in the past 30 years. That being said, will they go that route, and tell the dark and angry tale these dark days call for? Probably not. Shame on them, but not for trying - shame on them for not trying harder - for not having the balls to really pull it off.
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Oct. 17, 2012, 4:44 a.m. CST
I seem to recall that a few years ago Verhoeven wa sinterested in making another Robocop movie.
by albert comin
The movie would be a direct sequel to his first Robocop movie, and would ignore the other two made afterwards, which is wise. Well, thanks to this remake, i'm not seeing that happening anymore. Which sucks. I'd die to see another Robocop movie made with Verhoeven's unique film magic.
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Hell, it ain't even Robert Cop. http://www.bootlegactionfigures.com/robertcop.htm
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Come quietly or there will be...trouble.
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Oct. 17, 2012, 9:11 a.m. CST
Many very good movies came out from troubled productions, like the original "Robocop".
by albert comin
Rob Bottin and Paul Verhoeven nearly got to trade punches, and at the begining Peter Weller quitted or was fired, depending on who's telling the story. Still, even with such assurances, i'm not condident about this movie. They got the right director, i'm just not sure if they got the right executives.
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Oct. 17, 2012, 11:53 a.m. CST
Move Robocop to 2085 so I don't have to hear about how shitty is was.
by Quake II
Less excited about the new Robocop than I am about the next Meg Ryan comedy or BioDome II.
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Oct. 17, 2012, 12:49 p.m. CST
This movie will FAIL, but not because of the obvious
by letsfightinglove
Not because of this loser-ville release date, not because of its shitty script, not because of the actors or the director or ranting AICN talk-backers, but because of one simple fact that has the suits losing sleep at night...<br> NO.ONE.GIVES.A.SHIT.ABOUT.A.ROBOCOP.MOVIE. <br>Oh sure, they will TRY to make us care with some misguided waste-of-money marketing, but it will fail. The biggest hits of today succeed because they already have a built-in fanbase. Robocop does not, and it will not.
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Oct. 17, 2012, 4:48 p.m. CST
According to Empire mag, the only reason Weller wasnt fired
by Col. Tigh-Fighter
Was because the suit cost £250K to make, and was tailored to his body shape. I think he's quite tall. Still, what a classic came out of that troubled production. As someone who works in Indie land, and TV world, the thought of starting filming without a script is both terrifying and mind boggling. How the fuck do you plan or work out logistics if you dont know what the fuck or where the fuck your going. I guess you just throw money until everyone says yes. I did one of will.i.ams last music vids. We just threw money at that until everyone said yes. I bet its like that, but for 9 whole months. Yet I'd still like on work on a really big one, just to see what's its like. I want to do a Bond. Its a right of passage over here. My mate is over in Tenerife doing Fast 6 at moment. No one ever asks me to go abroad on shit :(
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Oct. 17, 2012, 7:25 p.m. CST
Studios never get credit when their interfering makes the movie better. A lot of directors need it.
by happybunni
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...is make a version of Robocop set in Britain: 'Clockwork Bobby'. He has a whirling mechanical truncheon, and an automated whistle. He has to deal with vandals, shoplifting and one burglar. I'm not quite sure what he looks like yet, but it ought to be something similar to Brassneck in The Dandy. He would also shout, "Oi! Come back 'ere!" but with a synthesized vocal module that sounded similar to Currah Speech circa 1985.
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Considering the limitation of firearms in UK, a british Robocop is one who would deal with shavs armed with knives and the ocasional shotgun.
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people claim to me movie lovers but seem to go into every film with a big chip on their shoulder saying "i hate you movie and everything you stand for...so try to prove me wrong, but i bet you wont!" And because they see films with this mentality they never give the film a fair shot. The gossip of "well the script got a bad reveiw, even though its not the script they are shooting, so its gonna suck. " I read this site all the time and you fucking fan boys make me sick with youre declerations of films being peices of shit before you have even seen the film. Its still in fucking production! Am i happy they are remaking a classic like Robocop..no, But they are making it wether i want them to or not. So who cares, they didnt borrow the money from you too make it. Relax people, you might have a good time if you stopped acting like someones trying to stick their fingers in your mothers ass.
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