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It looks like putting Sam Mendes (“American Beauty,” “Road To Perdition,” “Revolutionary Road”) in as director was a good move!

Variety says:

... Putting the "intelligence" in MI6, "Skyfall" reps a smart, savvy and incredibly satisfying addition to the 007 oeuvre …

The Hollywood Reporter says:

... Dramatically gripping while still brandishing a droll undercurrent of humor, this beautifully made film will certainly be embraced as one of the best Bonds by loyal fans worldwide and leaves you wanting the next one to turn up sooner than four years from now. …

The Times says:

Skyfall is a great British bulldog of a movie. From the moment the orchestral sound of Adele belts out, sending a nostalgic shiver down the audience’s collective spine, we know this will be a triumphant return to classic Bond. Sam Mendes, the director, deftly balances fanboy worship of 007 tradition with sophisticated film-making, and (apart from early Connery), nobody does it better than Daniel Craig....

The Daily Telegraph says:

... Sam Mendes’s frequently dazzling, utterly audacious entry in the franchise has less in common with its much-loved predecessors than Christopher Nolan’s The Dark Knight. …

The Guardian says:

... These smart, sure-footed antics set us up nicely for a devastating finale. And yet I couldn't help feeling that Mendes' hitherto sinuous, satisfying vehicle veers worryingly into the rough during a mishandled final section on a Scottish grouse moor that effectively doubles as Memory Lane.…

The Daily Express says:

... Apparently director Sam Mendes lobbied hard to get Javier Bardem on board as the villain and he does do rather a nice line in chilling psychopathic monsters. Is he good here? The answer is a qualified yes. He is not a villain in pursuit of world domination like Ernst Blofeld, and he is slightly upstaged by his own hair but he never fails to surprise. That he can make us laugh at the same time only makes him more menacing.…

Screen Daily says:

... Craig also seems to benefit from a third stab that puts all the elements, old and new, in perfect place. …

This opens in Britain, Russia, Qatar, Slovakia, Brazil and 23 other territories on Oct. 26. It opens in Kenya, Mexico, Estonia, Hong Kong, Peru and 12 other territories Nov. 1. The United States doesn’t get it till Nov. Fucking 8. Also, we still don’t have single-payer healthcare.

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  • Oct. 14, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST

    who knew Mendes could pull off an international spy flick?

    by mojination

    very excited, glad to hear them getting back on track after the last one.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Herc posting in the movies section?

    by Titus05

    did he get a promotion? Skyfall is going to kick ass...Daniel Craig is better then Connery

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Good news, needs it after QoS!

    by Kenny8

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 5 p.m. CST

    Good to hear.

    by phifty2

    I'll be there on November Fucking 8th.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 5:01 p.m. CST

    We don't have single payer healthcare ?

    by corplhicks

    That's right Commie, we don't, and you also don't need to wait 3 months to get an MRI or bypass surgery or wait weeks to see specialists. Don't like it then move to a socialist crappy country where you will pay high income tax to fund your "free" C minus healthcare

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 5:09 p.m. CST


    by composerguy

    What you think "Commie" means? Rhetorical, by the way. I already know your answer is wrong.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Life Expectancy

    by composerguy

    UK: 80.1 yrs (Rank: 16th) US: 78.2 yrs (Rank: 38th) Try again, corplhicks

  • It's good that they're breaking from that for this movie, though. Even SPECTRE wasn't ever-present back in the day. (As I said in another TB: Mr. White is old enough that they probably could connect the two organizations if they really wanted to and it wouldn't look too crazy.) Oddly, the thing I'm most worried about with this movie is the score. Sam Mendes apparently insisted on bringing Thomas Newman with him when he signed on; will this fall on the Eric Serra/GE side of the fence or the Michael Kamen/LTK side?

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 5:17 p.m. CST


    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    You and Bill Oreilly keep saying we have bad health care. We don't. We have one of the top health systems in the world. Just because you say we have a C minus system, doesnt make it so. And for our poor, its only a 3 month wait for a non emergency procedure, unlike never, for all those poor people over your way. We also have health insurance over here, so if you dont want to wait, you can pay and get it immidiately. Otherwise, short wait for non emergency stuff, then its free. In fact, our life expectancy is greater than yours, and early child mortality is lower than yours. (Thanks Google). You have many fine things in America. Your healthcare system isnt one of them.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Yeah, what the hell with that last sentence?

    by LetTheWookieWin

    Single payer healthcare is a huge can of worms. Not saying the US system doesn't need an overhaul, but that's not really the answer. And composerguy, if you think that single payer care is the reason your life expectancy is higher in the UK, you are deluded.

  • Fact. (Unverified)

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 5:26 p.m. CST


    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    You have some fine cuisine over there too.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 5:32 p.m. CST


    by MCVamp

    We do have some good stuff. Fried Oreos? You're welcome world cuisine. I will fight the stereotype of "America, land of shitty beer" to the death though. Since our recent explosion of microbrewing, America has risen to be a top-5 beer power, approaching Germany and maybe someday Belgium. Problem is, most morons are happy with BudMillerCoors.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Amen, brother

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    The UK is a good wine grower now, and one of our fizzy wines (we cant call it Champagne by law as not grown in France) even beat the French in a blind taste test. Lawl! I have toured a bit in US, and know there are micro breweries everywhere. I know a nice drop when I see one. :)

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Why is Mendes making a great Bond film a surprise?

    by huskerdu2

    He's a Bond director straight from the classic Terrence Young/Lewis Gilbert mould - good on story, great with actors etc etc.

  • I'd be suprised if it failed, in fact. And for those who are suprised that Mendes can deliver a big spy thriller, he is a very talented director, so why shouldn't he?

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 5:47 p.m. CST

    Herc: needlessly injecting politics into everything...

    by shagdrum usual. also, as to the stats about how crappy the US healthcare system is compared to the rest of the might want to go beyond simply finding numbers to confirm your ignorance prejudice. The assumptions and methodology behind those numbers are HIGHLY unrealistic and conveniently partisan. Stats don't lie but liars use stats.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Ain't It Dark Horizons Re-Posted News

    by Logan_1973

    First the Thor plot, now the 007 reviews. Bang up job cutting and pasting, fellas.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Oz release date

    by Ruddy Heck

    is apparently farkin Nov 22. I hate everything.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 5:59 p.m. CST

    needless injection of politics is a great way to boost TB response

    by A_Banned_Apart

    as you can and will likely continue to see.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 6:03 p.m. CST

    Yank Food

    by donkey_lasher

    I couldn't live over there if all of the restaurants did stuff shown in Man vs Food. Yum.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Lived in Britain for 6 system nearly killed me

    by John Brown

    Thankfully we moved back to the States and they were able to find and correct the problem. Single-payer's not everything it's cracked up to be, folks.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 6:07 p.m. CST

    The healthcare system didnt nearly kill you. Your health did.

    by Bobo_Vision

    What ails you? Diabetes, heart disease, or any of the other obesity related diseases?

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Choke yourself Herc

    by Badger23


  • Oct. 14, 2012, 6:12 p.m. CST


    by FannyPad

    How do you 'correct' morbid obesity??

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 6:14 p.m. CST

    Herc posting..

    by JOHNPOT

    Well at least somebody is posting on AICN, you know Harry wont do anything.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 6:20 p.m. CST

    bobo_vision and fannypad

    by John Brown

    You guys are funny. It's a blood disorder that the Brits completely missed, and was picked up in the States by a routine insurance exam. Had it not been found, my doctor says I could very well be dead by now. As for my morbid obesity...the only problem that causes is that I literally sweat grease and have trouble typing in AICN talkbacks.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Covjack, sorry about your blood disorder, but...

    by Bobo_Vision

    ..the UK health care system didnt miss your blood disorder, your doctor did. Bad doctors exist in all countries, it doesnt mean you have to change countries.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 6:28 p.m. CST


    by John Brown

    ...the typical screening in the UK didn't include this particular parameter. Now of course I can't say for certain that this is a budgetary issue, and that this particular test is excluded because of funding/national healthcare system flaws/etc. But it sure pissed me off.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Would you people STFU about politics here?

    by Mugato5150

    There are plenty of political sites to jerk each other off on.

  • and then the people advocating for Nationalized Deathcare would never have heard about you to begin with.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 6:41 p.m. CST

    Single payer

    by corplhicks

    First off you are wr

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Single payer

    by corplhicks

    No our poor in USA have free access to great care because they goto a clinic and get free care there. If they are ill and need to get admitted to a hospital they get free care there as well. Sorry you are wrong on this. And in terms of Americans not living as long it has nothing to do with the healthcare system it's because Americans are glutenous pigs overall who eat and smoke themselves in their sedentary lives into an early death and obesity. I'm a physician and I know this is the reason. Waiting 3 months to have non emergency surgery is nothing to brag about. What's needed is for America to take the sickening profit the insurance companies make out of medicine.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 7:09 p.m. CST


    by nietzschebot

    You're a not a fucking physician. A physician would know how to spell gluttonous. Also, no physician would postulate simples causes for a phenomenon like early mortality. You live a sad life where you attempt to claim authority where you have none.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 7:20 p.m. CST

    glutenous pigs

    by MustGoFaster

    Maybe he meant "glutenous" as in they gave a lot of gluten in them. Anyway, why the fuck are we talking about healthcare in a Bond talkback???

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Stop crying about dates...

    by Albert Herbert

    Australia doesn't get it until 23rd November. Clearly they don't realise that we have the Internet & torrents...dumb fucks.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 8:11 p.m. CST

    you already pay high taxes..

    by BBSloth

    it's just that you Americans like to see your taxes spent on Apache helicopters rather than kidney machines

  • No no no! It's awesome that the private insurance companies make American citizens pay so much more for health care per capita than our cousins in single-payer Britain, France, Canada, Australia, Spain, Italy, Ireland etc. etc. What's weird though? After single-payer systems were implemented in those backwards nations? Even the conservative politicans who opposed implementation of single-payer came to embrace their universal health care systems as national treasures. I'm not kidding. Britain even celebrated its single-payer National Health Service by honoring it during the 2012 Olympics' opening ceremonies. Crazy fucking limeys, am I right? Apparently the voters in these ridiculous single-payer nations don't know how much worse their single-payer system is than the far more expensive, private-insurance-company-enriching American system. Personally I *love* paying so much more for my health care. I think the Europeans, Australians and Canadians are nuts for paying so much less for their more efficient non-profit systems! In fact, I don't know why Americans don't just scrap Medicare at this point! It's the biggest single-payer system in the U.S. and saves seniors billions every year! So to clarify: I was saying that getting to pay so much more for my health care *makes up* for getting "Skyfall" later than other lands. Hope this clears things up!

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 8:27 p.m. CST

    Politcal arguing

    by T

    Its like the WWE for retards.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 8:28 p.m. CST


    by T

    HERC trolling his own TB.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 8:28 p.m. CST

    =Its like the WWE for retards=

    by Mugato5150

    So it's like the WWE?

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Politcal arguing

    by T

    Its like the WWE for the super retarded. People dumb enough to squeel about their idiotic politcal beliefs in public are worse than 300 pound morons wearing tapout shirt.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 8:50 p.m. CST

    I agree.

    by Hercules

    People invested in making affordable the cost of health care for themselves, their friends and their family? Fucking. Morons. Who else would waste their time like that?

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 9 p.m. CST


    by Daytripper69

    Sarcasm is a beautiful thing, ain't it?

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Blah blah blah

    by T

    That's not the point. The point is the constant blathering idiots point out their beliefs. This would seem to be a movie site, not a political forum. It would be nice not to hear the party line crap while reading about entertainment. But please do carry on with your tired politics wrapped up in supposed humantarian beliefs.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Anton Chigurh vs James Bond!

    by liquids

    Im there at midnight! Ive never been to a midnight screening before but I will be for Skyfall! Man Im so excited. Sam Mendes is great director with Daniel Craig going against Anton. Oh man im super pumped! What a match up. Beast vs Beast. I saw the teaser during Men in Black 3 damn near pissed my pants. Were talking From Russia with Love quality here folks.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Single payer healthcare

    by Keith

    It's the most efficient system economically. The US has a high standard of healthcare because you pay more for healthcare than anyone in the world. You even pay more TAXES for healthcare than anyone in the world, because you have to give so much of it to parasite insurance companies. But, y'know, so long as you're not commies or anything, carry on wasting your money on a system that's hilariously inefficient. Honestly, the US gets most things right, but this is an area where it cuts off its nose to spite its face, privileging ideology over pragmatism. The countries that use a single payer model do so primarily because economists have found that it is the most efficient structure. The insurance companies keep using the phrase 'socialized medicine', and you keep playing into their hands...

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Re: You already pay high taxes

    by Keith

    'it's just that you Americans like to see your taxes spent on Apache helicopters rather than kidney machines' Forget the Apaches; the US actually spends more on HEALTHCARE per capita through taxation than any other country. Why? Because the costs of medicare and medicaid are stratospheric, because non-single-payer insurance costs are mind-boggling. The the US ends up with the worst of both worlds: higher health-centric taxation than 'socialist' countries, but with poor returns for their money. It's basically socialism for the insurance companies, to accompany the socialism for Wall St. Brilliant. Keep telling yourself that this is the free market, guys...

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Anyway, Bond...

    by Keith

    QoS wasn't nearly as bad as people make out. Not great, not bad.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 9:16 p.m. CST

    That's right, commie

    by Keith

    'you also don't need to wait 3 months to get an MRI or bypass surgery or wait weeks to see specialists' But you can take out private insurance in the UK just as easily as in the US. It's just that if you choose not to, you'll still get a reasonable quality of healthcare. And you'll pay less overall (taxes +private) than a corresponding American resident will for the same coverage.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 9:19 p.m. CST

    The govt runs VA and county hosp - ARMPITS

    by CaptainAction

    OF HEALTHCARE you moron! You go hang out there all day and tell me it's the pearl of healthcare! This is what the govt runs and it stinks. They run the only healthcare they are in charge of like a backed up toilet and now you want to hand over ALL our healthcare to the GOVT! Go spend a day at the VA and then write an article about it YOU MORON! Instead of competition in healthcare give it all to the govt and they will run ALL OUR HEALTHCARE LIKE THE FLINTSTONES. USE SOME LOGIC!

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 9:28 p.m. CST

    So this is how the "writers" on this site spend their time?

    by Charlie_Allnut

    I've been wondering, seeing as how news rarely gets posted on here anymore. Hell, these 007 reviews were posted at other sites days ago. Guess this site is run just as efficiently as a government bureaucracy.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 9:50 p.m. CST

    by red_eddie

    What an ignorant person you are..what the fuck do you think student loans, law enforcement, social security and countless other programs Im sure you will hypocritically use?? They're all social programs. Its just you're right wing heroes keep force feeding you the notion of a socialist" country when in actuality you're already living in one! And by the way to prove you are even further ignorant many other countries have far more state of the art hospitals than the U.S. and alot of times more capable doctors!

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 9:56 p.m. CST

    Thin The Herd

    by Michael Bay

    Eliminate all healthcare - I bet you'd see the morbidly obesity stats in this country drop right off the charts. The "downside" is that this site wouldn't have any so-called writers left.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 10:03 p.m. CST

    I clicked on the story to read about Bond, not...

    by Levi Tinker

    get a health care politics statement. Was it really necessary to inject that last line that has nothing to do with James Bond into your story

  • He had quintuple bypass surgery and was sent home yesterday. <p> I know: you don't believe it. <p> Believe some reactionary retard instead.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 10:18 p.m. CST

    Let the sky fawlll, let it crambowwww

    by Balkin Flabgurter

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Commie healthcare

    by twofeet

    Let me tell you about the commie healthcare in Canada. Two days after my daughter was diagnosed with a possibly serious heart murmur we were seeing one of the top pediatric cardiologists in Canada (from Sick Kids in TO, also one of the best in the world). Followup care for 18 months until the problem resolved itself (she grew out of it). Cost to me? Zero. Oh wait, what about the cost to me by way of taxes? Well I'm an independent contractor earning in the high five-figures and I pay a lower rate of tax than Mitt Romney claims he pays. Think about that a minute.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 10:39 p.m. CST

    Kabong - er, what?

    by twofeet

    Not sure what your point is. Hospital stay for a bypass is typically 5-7 days in both the US and Canada. Look it up. Anyway. The Bond film sounds like it will be good. ;P

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 10:44 p.m. CST

    There's an easy way to decide which approach is best...

    by chaburchak

    ...whether you're talking about healthcare, or tax reform, or whatever. Set up a test system for each viable approach in a different city or state, monitor it for a year or two and publish the findings on the Net for everyone to see for themselves. Then once the test period is over, make decisions based on actual demonstrable results. Why do we have to pick one sides' approach and bet everything on it? Just doesn't make sense...

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 10:53 p.m. CST

    Listen, junior, he one thing we definitely DON'T want to do

    by Hercules

    is expand the single-payer system here in the U.S. When the Europeans, Canadians and Australians implemented single-payer universally, it proved so popular with their respective electorates that it's now *impossible* to abolish single-payer in those nations. (It would be like a U.S. politician today trying to abolish Social Security here in America.) I beg you, don't give the American public a taste of single-payer! Once the voters start utilizing it no politician will ever be able to get rid of it -- no matter how loudly the insurance companies (or at least the ones that finance every political campaign) demand it. We don't want a nation that offers its voters affordable universal health care. Do we?

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Unless I read an earlier post incorrectly, twofeet . . .

    by kabong

    crplhicks was asserting that in "socialist" countries it is necessary to wait three months for bypass surgery. *That's right Commie, we don't, and you also don't need to wait 3 months to get an MRI or bypass surgery or wait weeks to see specialists. Don't like it then move to a socialist crappy country where you will pay high income tax to fund your "free" C minus healthcare* I was pointing out that such is not the case. I should have added that the patient did not pay anything beyond the annual fee calculated on the basis of his income (and that fee is lower than private insurance in the US), except for the ambulance ride.

  • How do some of you fucking morns even operate a computer?

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 11:08 p.m. CST


    by Ironhelix

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 11:09 p.m. CST

    Apparently I can't operate a keyboard.

    by Ironhelix

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 11:17 p.m. CST

    ironhelix has it right

    by Hercules

    It's NOT free in Europe, Canada and Australia (you still pay for health insurance via taxes if you can afford to), it's just WAY cheaper than what Americans have to pay with private insurance. People, listen up. We do not want health care that affordable. We'll never be able to get rid of it. That's not America.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 11:23 p.m. CST

    Roger Moore was the best

    by Jeff

    Daniel Craig has nothing on Rog.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 11:30 p.m. CST

    Funniest. Talkback. Evar.

    by Grando

    Come for the Bond, stay for the illiterate Yanks trying desperately to justify the American Health Insurance companies hold on their very lives. Here's the deal breaker on the NHS and staying in the UK. We have private healthcare as well if you want to pay for it! The best of both worlds! Why would I bother though? Both my sons required emergency extraction during labour. They were out in 30 minutes from the time the problems were identified and home in 3 days. The NHS is fucking awesome!

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 11:39 p.m. CST

    Herc...your naive.

    by RedChief

    What in the world makes you think a system that (barely) works in a country the size of Texas w/ twice the pop of California (70m) would work in a country of 330m? Let the fucking states do it because when has the federal government ever shown it can do anything correctly, except blowing shit up?

  • Regardless of your thoughts on the health care debate, how the fuck could you interpret one flip, semi-smarmy remark (even if he meant it) as a lecture or turning AICN into "a political forum" Seriously just shut the fuck up and read the reviews

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Not sure why healthcare is mentioned in this column...

    by WeylandYutani

    But I'll throw in my two cents as a Canadian who travels extensively in the US for work. A conversation I often have with Americans on flights and in airport lounges is the misconception that the Canadian system is a socialized model and therefore not capitalist or for-profit. This is incorrect. Yes Canadians use multiple government programmes, divided by province, to access the public healthcare system. They pay into a system collectively that lowers the cost burden per individual, but the system is still VERY profitable. Pfizer, Lilly, Merck and other drug and technology companies do very well supplying hospitals and the medical needs of Canadians. Further, hospital staff bill the system for work done and are paid well. I am not aware of any Canadian doctors that are badly off. Most live a very comfortable upper middle class life and some who are specialists, surgeons or those who have patents are incredibly wealthy, like my uncle who is a dental surgeon and has pioneered and patented several technologies. Another misconception mentioned in this thread concerns the lack of available MRIs or the lack of access to care in general. I can tell you anecdotally, a couple of years ago I needed an MRI due to a skiing accident where I tore my ACL. I waited a week for the MRI on my knee and a further 2 weeks for the surgery to repair the knee and then 6 months of physio immediately following. And that was for elective, non critical care... Not long to wait at all. My father, who recently passed away from heart issues, entered the Canadian system a year ago and received excellent care despite his terminal condition. He died after an extended illness, but it had nothing to do with the lack of or availability of skilled critical care. During my father's time in ICU he was visited by a former university friend who is a British expat and is now is a cardiac surgeon in the US. He felt that my father was getting excellent care. And this care is provided to all Canadians via OHIP and other similar provincially run insurance systems. The main difference between the US and Canadian systems is that because Canadians pay through taxes and not at the time of use, people are triaged via need, rather than first come first serve, hence the wait when not deemed critical. Now obviously, this happens to a degree in the US too and there is no question that if you have good insurance or are wealthy the US has excellent care – among the best in the world. However, other than the duty of care required in an American ER and access to immediate critical care, elective or preventive care in the US is highly dependent on income and the user's insurance policy. This is different than other western democracies.

  • Oct. 14, 2012, 11:57 p.m. CST


    by Hercules

    Would it work if we divided the U.S. into four or five sections and implemented the same single-payer system in each of the five sections of 70 million people? I'm pretty sure single-payer would prove enormously popular whether it was implemented nationwide or in five slices of the nation. Which is why we must never do it either way! Affordable health care will ruin America.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 12:10 a.m. CST

    Hey Herc

    by Nerd Rage

    What do you think of a ”public option” for health insurance since there's so much resistance to universal healthcare in the USA? It's funny how a public option has disappeared completely for America's healthcare debate.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 12:14 a.m. CST


    by Player01

    Sincerely, Australia, and anyone else who lives with a decent public healthcare system. Big Pharma has you over a barrel, dear USA! Also, new BOND is AWESOME

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 12:15 a.m. CST

    Herc -

    by RedChief

    You need to remember your constitution. We are a union of 50 sovereign states. Let each state government decide what is best for their citizens. If what they implement sucks, people can move. Massachusetts has state run health care, and it works for them. Delaware is looking at a complete single payer system, which is fine for Delaware. Tennessee had state run health care and it almost bankrupted the state, so they had to get rid of it. What works in Mass doesnt work in Tenn and cannot work in Cal (we have a significant illegal alien issue to deal with). A one-size fits all plan from the US government does not work. It doesn't work with the Dept of Education (everyone hats NCLB). And as was pointed out earlier, look not only at the VA system but the federal government run Indian health system (health care on the reservations). They are the epitome of failed government programs. We have state governments, lets let them handle state-run health care.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 12:22 a.m. CST

    nerd rage

    by Hercules

    I'm against anything that will bring affordable health care to all Americans.

  • Yeah you've got elections coming up! We know! You'll either keep the same puppet or exchange this puppet for another one just like him! Big Whoop! Wanna fight about it? Clearly you do! Maybe both your two-lol-party system conventions could've used a 007 Opening Montage with accompanying music singing of the accomplishments of each establishment candidate! I imagine there will be a lot of imagery involving money and oil overlapping looping footage of the WTC bombings with Ahmadinejad's goofy smiling face inserted in between random frames of footage!

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 12:57 a.m. CST

    ok Herc, we get the bit

    by Mugato5150

    Jesus. Mods are supposed to STOP off topic bullshit.

  • ROMNEY/RYAN 2012

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 1:30 a.m. CST


    by Tanning Chatum

    Herc isn't a mod. It is essentially his personal webspace an he treats it as such. Deleting people e disagrees with or comments he doesn't like (watch this post), unashamedly linking to shit on amazon for selfish reasons, only posting stories about shows that interest him..I mean 8 fucking years for a supernatural talkback? What's worse is Harry endorses all of this. Who would have though a guy so very pro censorship and control would be pro universal health care? Must have some German in him.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 1:39 a.m. CST


    by berserkrl

    The UK has a state-socialist healthcare system. The US has a corporatist-fascist healthcare system. State socialism and corporatist fascism both suck, albeit in somewhat different ways. There is an alternative to both:

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 1:55 a.m. CST

    as a Brit

    by affleck bomb phantoms

    Yeah we do have the NHS and on paper it sounds like an amazing idea, but unfortuntaely when you have something free, waiting times can be horrendous. There have been tragic cases of patients being left unattended and in some situations hospitals have had conditions akin to a third world hospital. Having said that there are a large number of people who have never had any issues at all, myself included, having epilepsy, the consultants I've seen and the way I have been taken through it has been first rate, but the flip side, is my mother has early on set dementia, and her treatment by hospitals and doctors has been poor to say the least.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 2:01 a.m. CST

    ....and 23 other territories...

    by PoweredUpPackman

    So, we live in 'territories' now? Sounds like some cheap sci-fi series. Maybe we should start calling our prime minister 'Grand Moff'. That would be kinda awesome.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 2:06 a.m. CST


    by Tanning Chatum

    We pay via advertisements. Without people to advertise to the site probably wouldn't exist on the scale it does. Regardless of how much I pay, it saddens me to see such behavior. It's just douchey behavior, and a petty abuse of power.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 2:08 a.m. CST

    Life Expectancy UK vs US (composerguy, corplhicks)

    by wickerpplking

    UK - 62million people US - 310million people misleading. the US is a far more diverse population (people in NY vs TX vs Montana vs Oregon), we have different health care and insurance models per state, and a greater sample size, so such a comparison isn't apples-to-apples. also the matter is quality of life and relative wealth. accepting the premise that the life expectancy numbers are relevant, I could argue that the difference in wealth accumulated by the avg person in the US vs the UK over a lifetime might well be worth 1.9 years. "Life Expectancy by composerguy UK: 80.1 yrs (Rank: 16th) US: 78.2 yrs (Rank: 38th) Try again, corplhicks"

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 2:13 a.m. CST

    RE healthcare (thanks for this OT discussion herc)

    by Tanning Chatum

    I say this an an Aussie....the US system is much better for the people who can afford it, which is pretty much anyone with a job. Better service, quicker, etc. Goverment health care systems like in Australia and the UK have a long waiting list, and a minimum of care. For the same price you would pay instead of being on the waiting list, the money is better spent in the US. The problem with the US system is poor people don't matter. They might fix you at an ER, then hit you with crazy debt...which means people don't want to go to the ER. At least Obamacare fixes that somewhat, bring the system something closer to the Swiss system.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 2:17 a.m. CST


    by Tanning Chatum

    I agree that life expectancy is not a telling factor by itself. However, it is ludicrous for you to try and argue the US has a better of quality life than ANY of the commonwealth countries. See, all the teen pregnancies, single parents having two work two jobs, poor quality education, students being hit with huge student loan debts, crime, lack of affordable healthcare, etc....that brings the average way down, so you have no chance of competing with a commonwealth or European country. Well, except Belize. You guys can compete with Belize.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 2:19 a.m. CST

    Popularity of a Single-Payer System

    by wickerpplking

    Of course it would be popular. We now live in a country whereby 50% don't pay income tax. yes, that includes veterans, the retired/elderly, and I am not faulting anyone for this, it is merely a statement of fact. I'll expand it that even someone making 50k annually pays on average a 5.4% effective tax rate, and the average for the US as a whole is 11% (USAToday). The vast majority pays less into the system than they receive out of it. if a 50%+ majority receives a benefit they contribute less than the cost of to receive, of damn course they'll take it. if we had single-payer food, do you think a majority would approve? I bet yes. if we had majority public housing ("affordable, quality public housing" would probably be the tagline) would a majority approve? I bet so. majority approval does not make something good. if we suppose to have a public healthcare system, then there must also be a public control of individual health. if care is to be subsidized by everyone, you cannot smoke. why should I have to pay for someone who chooses to do themself harm? or food ... would we ration sugar intake? we can't force healthy people to be forced to pay for the obese? we are presently on the unsustainable course whereby we have publicly payed care (hospitals, government insurance, healthcare) and private decision making. we can either be free to live our lives how we choose, and be responsible for the results OR we can go all in with public responsibility and need to institute public choice in order to maintain a fair system.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 2:27 a.m. CST


    by Tanning Chatum

    Can you support your claim that 50% of the population don't pay income tax? Your argument falls apart otherwise. Because if you exclude illegal aliens who would not be eligible for the benefits, children who will one day reciprocate and pay for the next generation, retired people living of savings so not earning income and veterans either on pensions or homeless, that brings us a whole lot closer to 100% than 50%.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 2:46 a.m. CST

    Why d'you want single-payer healthcare...

    by luciusfox

    ... you commie gits? In fact, here's a great idea, why don't you have privately run schools, police, and a fire-service too? That way you can make sure that the evil state truly has no contol over you anymore, and have absolute freedom of choice to bring up your kids like werewolves who can't read or write, in a town burnt to the ground, overrun by gangs. But hey, at least you wouldn't be forced to pay for all these unnecessary services, it'd be your choice right?

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 2:47 a.m. CST

    I wonder if Bond uses the NHS?

    by Prawnee

    Or does M dish out Bupa plans?

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 2:48 a.m. CST

    Way to ruin a perfectly good talkback opportunity

    by JonJonB9

    you absolute dick

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 3:08 a.m. CST

    I'm confused. Is this the Skyfall trailer thread?

    by albert comin

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 3:18 a.m. CST


    by Mr Kite

    First of all, reviews of the new Bond movie have been all over the internet for a couple of days before AICN (supposedly a movie site) finally gets round to posting them and secondly talkbackers are rattling on about politics and healthcare! I say again WTF!

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 3:40 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    Anything has to be better than David 'trying so hard to be John Barry and failing miserably' Arnold's crap.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 3:49 a.m. CST

    UK Health System - read and learn, idiots -

    by SminkyPinky

    We have the NHS, yes, which ANYONE is entitled to. But we also have countless health insurance systems, just like the US. So we have both, alright? Therefore the MANY poor people who cannot afford health insurance (like millions of US citizens) have access to healthcare. To those complaining and falling for the profit first side of society that feeds off the poor and middle class, kick your obvious fear (you fucking cowards) and take the time to LEARN something, like looking after the health of your fellow man is not socialism. And even if it is, are you so afraid that your own system is so eak that one little element will bring it all down? Or stick with being a brain dead, dogmatic, blinkered twat? it's your choice. A so-called "Christian" country. I fucking weep for you.

  • Go on a diet, you tubby bitch, and learn how to pronounce your L's.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 4:25 a.m. CST

    As a NHS patient...

    by kingmaclean

    I have been amazed by the service i have got! I got an MRI scan within a week ( I had to wait "so long" as it was not an emergency) . The scan highlighted other potential concerns that where followed up very quickly with other tests just to ensure they where nothing to worry about. I truly would not mind paying a little extra tax if it was to go to the NHS to allow others the same level of care i enjoyed. Heck I even get free prescriptions as I live in Scotland ...(hmmm maybe I should not bring that up could make this chat even more divisive!) The NHS is not perfect but I have always been impressed by the way America can take the best of other nations soultuions and and add some of their own improvements and make something other nations strive to replciate!

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 5:11 a.m. CST

    Can we have a new TalkBack so we can discuss the new Bond film?

    by photoboy

    While I'm pleased it's getting good reviews, I remember QoS got very solid reviews and was pretty disappointing overall. Naomie Harris looks to be a pretty weak Bond girl too, certainly not in the same league as Eva Green.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 5:23 a.m. CST

    @Mr kwisatzhaderach

    by albert comin

    I think the only time Arnold managed to get his John Barry right was with the "The World In Not Enough" song and the whole score for Casino Royale. Otherwise, i share your lack of enthusiasm for his work. He's servicable, but not particually inspired. Except Casino Royale, he hit a homerun there. Maybe he was visited by the ghost of Barry.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 6:14 a.m. CST

    @Mr photoboy

    by albert comin

    I always found Naomi Harris to be a stunning looking woman, specially when she had long hair like in "Miami Vice". Her english accent makes her even hotter. But to each his own. certainly you can't deny she can act, and that has is now an imperative even for the Bond Girls. And really, are we the only fools who are still treating this as a Bond talkback? Why i wasn't given the memo?

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 6:14 a.m. CST

    Proof that Herc is stupid...

    by nemov

    Hmm, you think you might have a brain tumor? Get in line! I hope you don't die in the next six weeks while you're waiting.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 6:20 a.m. CST


    by Hipshot

    It is obvious to any objective person willing to look at statistics that UHC improves life span, lowers infant mortality rates and lowers cost per patient. The resistance in the U.S. is driven by massive insurance companies, Conservatives fearful of large government, Republicans who desperately want to deny Obama a victory, and people who simply don't want to pay for someone else's health care. To do this they have to play really weird games: pretending preventive care is inefficient. Pretending that obesity, smoking, and other voluntary behaviors are not affected by counseling and psychological support. Pretending that, for some unknown reason "certain groups" just don't want their children to live as much as more advantaged groups. Loathsome stuff. Belief that money-making is the primary motivation for scientific research. That there is a gigantic world conspiracy to lie about the results of UHC. That the "we have the best health care in the world" mantra makes sense to those without the money to access it. And on and on. It's pretty pitiful, and a losing family of arguments, thank God. We'll get there. This is just a good example of America not being able to get something right. We've done a ton of stuff superbly well...but on this one we suck donkey dick.

  • Or talking about James Bond is still good?

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 6:31 a.m. CST

    @Mr hipshot

    by albert comin

    Did you saw the Red Bull Statos jump yesterday? It broke a few records, including highest free dive jump and broke sound speed for a human unaided by a vehicle. This fantastic achievements were possible because a bunch of individuals and organizations from different countries were involved. The jumper was Felix Baumgartner, an austrian, whose mentor and mission control director was the retired american coronel and vietnam war and POW veteran (and all around badass) Joseph Kittinger, who had previously set the record in 1960. This is a wonderful demonstration of international collaboration resulting in TOTAL awesomeness. Why can't there be more stuff like this? Why can't there be more examples of trusting between the US and the rest of the world? Why can't certain fellow americans not understand that maybe the foreigners might have the right ideas about certain things?

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 6:43 a.m. CST

    And because of the political garbage...

    by Croweyes1121

    ...this will be my final post and final visit to this site. AICN has gone to absolute shit in the last few years anyway. They re-post crap from other sites, sometimes days - or even weeks - later, post shit I have zero interest in (like a fucking toy line coming out from Sideshow or - God help us - another lame-ass Mondo poster) without having the decency to sort that shit out from the rest of the actual movie news. It's already an absolute nightmare of sorting through piles of shit to find what I'm actually interested in. The talkbackers are fucking rude and spend more time bitching about movies not being perfect and expounding why they suck than enjoying fucking movies. It's a total elitist bullshit site now. And you know what? I haven't cared. I've come here and enjoyed myself despite all of these shortcomings. Hell, I've kinda liked having to scroll down through the most disorganized site I visit in case something awesome caught my eye halfway down the list (never really happens anymore). I roll my eyes at the forum contributors. I laugh at the hilarity of Harry's fucking ridiculously stupid videos and the even stupider people who defend them for being good or informative rather than the pieces of excrement they are. But you know what? It's my choice to deal with that. Because I have always felt like this site had a sort of perverse charm about it. But thanks to Herc and his fucking neo-commi-left-wing BULLSHIT, I absolutely CANNOT abide this place anymore. I commend those of you who can sit here and be force-fed this garbage, but go screw off, Herc. You've lost a fucking reader. Yeah, I know, who cares, there's thousands more where I came from. But this election's too important to me. This country needs saving from the ignorant people out there like you. And I won't contribute to your site traffic, even if that's just a drop in the bucket. It just sucks. I really don't get why you couldn't leave politics out of things. EVERYONE HATES IT, even those who agree with you. THIS IS NOT THE PLACE, goddammit! Whatever. I'm out. I'll miss the site, but not the other bullshit. Romney/Ryan 2012.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 6:51 a.m. CST


    by Hipshot

    I didn't see the jump, being occupied all day with kid stuff (a fair, a soccer game, etc.) but caught much of it later on news programs. What a wonderful, wonderful event. Just an adventure. I love it. I think that we see lack of cooperation more often than cooperation because cooperation is invisible. We don't pay attention to the vast amount of "flow" on diplomatic, technical, financial and intelligence arenas. We take it for granted that our ATM cards will work in Barcelona and Hong Kong, or that our flights from L.A. to Johanneseburg will fly over the airspace of a dozen countries without incident. We need to cooperate more, learn more, share more...but really, the world is knitting together beautifully, to the point where a hundred people killed in a variety of Middle Eastern countries is interpreted by alarmists as "The Middle East is burning." Oh, please. Shit is working itself out. There will be more violence, but in general, human beings just want the best world for themselves and their families...and sharing is the best way to get there, so long as you keep your guard up.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 7:05 a.m. CST

    What exact is the point...

    by waslah

    Of posting professional reviews that we could get absolutely anywhere like, say, rotten tomatoes? If you don't have anything of your own it seems really cheap of you to try and piggyback on the works of others.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 7:29 a.m. CST

    @Mr hipshot

    by albert comin

    Right you are. About the jump, i saw it live, and let me tell you, it was tense like hell. I'm sure i was more nervous then the fella who did the jump.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 7:46 a.m. CST

    I know JARHEAD wasn't perfect...

    by DukieMichaelNamondRandy

    ...but how come nobody mentions THAT movie when it comes to advertising Mendes' past work? I thought it was pretty solid for such a small story and featured more action (for what little there was) than any of his other films. what, are we advertising stylishness to get the "Mad Men" crowd in on this one? ...whichwouldmeanapersonlikeMEsoyeahthatkindaworks...

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 7:47 a.m. CST

    Looking forward to SkyFall...

    by Bob

    ...and who wouldn''s Bond! Like any franchise, especially one that's been cranking away this're gonna have your ups and downs. Rather than focus on any negatives...and presonally I think you really hve to dig for them, I'd rather focus on the posities. Even the worst, are still watchable. I really like Daniel Craig, and at first when he was announced, I gotta admit I was worried. Looks like a good one, and I'll be trying to see it opening day! Side note, Broccoli's daughter seems to be reeally involved lately???, I've seen her in a few interviews. She always struck me as being a big fan, so that's good news.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 7:54 a.m. CST


    by Johnny Wrong

    ...hoping the movie is better. Seriously, though. Adele? Really? REALLY?

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Might have already been posted but...

    by phifty2


  • Oct. 15, 2012, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Thanks for ruining the TB Herc.

    by phifty2

    I guess no one did mention the opening because they're all too busy gabbing about the politcal bs you baited the article with.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 8:30 a.m. CST

    QOS is underated

    by grendel69

    Don't get the hate for that film.

  • I almost divorced myself after I saw it.

  • Canada wins hands down. I got a piece of steak stuck in my esophagus when I lived in the US. Went to the hospital. Had to stay overnight. Cost me 2,000 bucks..AND I WAS INSURED. Now I live in Canada, and last year was rushed to the hospital after unknowingly ingesting pine nuts, which I'm allergic to. Cost...ZERO. Also, I don't pay much more in taxes. Tax rates are different depending on where you live in Canada. There are terrible stories about health care wherever you go. For every story you cite about Canada, I can cite 10 more horrible ones about healthcare in the states. Bottom line, nobody dies in Canada because they can't afford to go to the doctor. That happens all too frequently in the states. And people say the US had the best health care in the world but it is NOT of uniform quality. If you're wealthy, you get that care, if you're even middle class, you get C level care AT BEST.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 8:46 a.m. CST

    this movie is gonna kick so much @ss!

    by dieanotherday

    can't wait for Nov 9th! this will be the best movie of the year ... forget about Avengers and TDKR!

  • i have health benefits through where I work. since it is a fortune 100 company, they have negotiated a pretty stellar deal for me. do whatever you want with your life, but if the healthcare or "obamacare" plan changes my employee benefits (which i have worked hard in school/other careers ect to obtain) i'll be incredibly pissed. like really damn pissed. however, giving away food stamps has never gotten in the way of me getting food, so i guess you all can continue to be lazy as fuck

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 9:48 a.m. CST

    I'm looking forward to the shot

    by robertdee

    of Bond watching a plastic bag blowing about in the wind and crying at the beauty of the world. Before shooting it.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Just play muse supremacy in your earbuds during the credits.

    by UltraTron

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 9:53 a.m. CST

    fixes that shit

    by UltraTron

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST


    by Shugmeister

    Glad it's not just me - her pronunciation on that song does my head in.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 10:14 a.m. CST


    by LarkStew

    Where do you get the idea that a universal health care system treats potentially life threatening illnesses exactly like ingrowing toenails? If you can wait, you do. If your doctor thinks you can't wait, you're straight to the hospital in an ambulance sirens wailing. The difference is, doesn't matter how much money you've got, you get treated the same. You can't buy your way to the front of the queue, oh no my poorly stubbed toe, get me an MRI scan NOW, if you can wait so somebody that just got impaled in a car crash gets his life saving treatment first, then you wait. I'd rather health care professionals decide who gets treated and when, than leave it to money grabbing poxy insurance salesmen. Anyway, being in the UK, and enjoying the free at the point of delivery health care that I get, I'm also looking forwards to seeing Skyfall two weeks before you. HAH!

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 10:16 a.m. CST

    @Mr grendel69

    by albert comin

    I would also say that QOS was underrated if not for THE FUCKING SHAKY-CAM!!! That was the movie that made me hate that camera technique! Nowdays it became an allergy, thanks to QOS. Good job, movie!

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Been one of the best movie years I can remember.

    by Jaymie69

    Can't wait to see this,quantum was like a shitty mid story kinda like A week in the life of bond. Now we get to the good stuff!...and the years not even over yet. There is only one winner..We the viewers

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 10:28 a.m. CST

    @Mr benzabs

    by albert comin

    Why the Obamacare should be a problem or a danger to you? The Obamacare is for people who can't afford the same benefits you have. And if this means a few more bucks in taxes, don't you think it feels good to know that you have contributed a bit to the well being of the people who are less fortunate then you? Certainly you are not divorced from caring for your fellow american citizens, specially those less fortunate. Social welfare is just that. It's not a big bad wolf state stealing your money, c'mon! This thing has been going on in Canada and Europe for decades, and the rich didn't became less rich because of that. The thing that set back the purses of the middle class in those countries were not the welfare social taxes, but the fucking economy we have today which was caused by the same type of people who scream and made a straw boogieman out of Obamacare. The US has far more pressing matters to attend then to be worried the poor might get some medical care that so far have not been privy to and which is their right to. The persue of happiness also is about being in good health, so why should anybody deny that to their fellow american?

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Wow hating on Adele...

    by Andrew Coleman

    Douche bags. Look I get it. Once something becomes cool/popular you have to hate it. If you're older than 17 though get help. The song kicks ass. Those attacking her weight... HAHA you probably weigh twice as much as she does. Guys who usually say shit like that are the guys who never get laid by good looking chicks too btw. Better to say nothing than show your cards like that.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Looking forward to a great villain

    by Andrew Coleman

    Movies don't have great bad guys anymore and Skyfall looks like it will deliver. I'm there at midnight for sure.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 10:30 a.m. CST

    i don't know why you guys are upset with Adele's voice in the song.

    by albert comin

    Her singing is no problem to me. I just wish the song was a bit more inspired, like "You Know My Name". But maybe the version in the movie is a bit different and more catchy. At the very least it does sound like a Bond song, unlike the Madonna and the QOS songs.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 10:31 a.m. CST

    QOS was fine but...

    by Andrew Coleman

    The shaky cam did it in. The action shots were fucking ruined by that choice. If they didn't go that way those calling it an abortion wouldn't be. I would like in maybe Craig's last Bond movie for him to destroy Quantum. That would be sweet.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 10:37 a.m. CST

    good riddance to that guy who lied about saying he'd never be back...

    by Andrew Coleman

    He probably just made another name and is posting in the Walking Dead article right now. Stop with the politics bull shit right now. I'm sorry if you're a hard core conservative but it's simple... Voting Romney/Ryan means three things: You're either super rich, racist, or beyond fucking stupid. That's it. Sorry those are the only options. Those two have stated nothing... We really have no idea what they would do in office. So don't say you are voting for them for some economic reason or bull shit because you're lying, they have stated no specifics so voting for them for something specific makes no sense. They do represent a rising angry group... Old white people. I get that the world has suddenly become a mixing pot. It's a lot less white, women can do whatever they want etc. If Romney/Ryan win it's because most white people 40 and up wish it was like "the old days" problem is it never will. You can destroy the middle class and try and give women less options... But the world will never be like the 50's and early 60's again... Sorry. So jerk off to watching Mad Men but leave us regular and smart people alone. 4 years of Romney/Ryan will be terrible. So please just don't do it. I get you're mad but just play video games or something. Don't destroy the country because you wish people would wear suits on airplanes.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 11:14 a.m. CST

    America's healthcare is controlled by SPECTRE!!!

    by kindofabigdeal

  • Just shut right defuck up, you self righteous hypocritical jerkass! I sure hope you make good on your promise. You and your misinformed politics won't be missed.

  • Seriously, do your homework. Go and look into Romney's plan to reduce the deficit for instance. A plan that calls for more tax cuts for the wealthy and an increase in Defense spending and "unspecified" reductions in tax exemptions. I'd be very worried about these unspecified closing of tax loopholes. Sounds to me like this is going to be a tax increase on the Middle Class.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 11:51 a.m. CST


    by dieanotherday

    are ppl like myphdisdoom for real? no wonder the democratic party is in power!

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 11:55 a.m. CST

    @kwisatzhaderach: I don't mind Arnold's work, actually, but...

    by Bill C.

    ...while I'll grant he's a decent enough composer with moments of brilliance (and IMO has managed to maintain the "Bond sound" relatively well over his fifteen years with the series), he's no John Barry. That said: who is? That's like comparing someone to John Williams, or Elmer Bernstein, or God forbid the elder gods (Morricone/Herrmann/Rozsa/Steiner)...they'll almost always come up short.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Shiiiit. America is owned by Spectre. After battling us with

    by UltraTron

    tesla beam weapons for years those pesky ruskies have now bought us out from within. Spectre controls your media and has been washing your mind into a hapless state of obedience to any atrocity they want to reek upon you next. Whether it be mandatory taser bracelets(everything I talk about has always been actually fucking real and on the news recently) or believing whatever absurd coincidence contrived to scapegoat themselves from being found out- you will lap it up and demand Spectre to own your very food and the individual molecules that make up your body(Monsanto wants its claws in your very molecular make-up. It wants a patent on everything you eat. They are owned by Spectre Industries. Wake up!) Ok now go drink some fluoride since it only works topicly and you would never swallow toothpaste because it says poison on it because of the fluoride. Now go drink some tap water. Don't filter it. Drink your poison. Seriously how fucking fucked beyond comprehensive thought that can adhered to meaning could putting rat poison in the water supply be? It's fucked Spectre shit that you cannot simply explain away to me. It tastes like shit and builds up mineral deposits in the machinery of any coffee shop stupid enough to use unfiltered water until the shit breaks. Anyways James Bond failed us all and we must fight for ourselves. The battle rages. You must take back the world. Make a stink like nobody has ever smelled. Vote libertarian. If everyone would wake up and just say let's throw the wrench in this fucking machine. Then the votes would spell freedooom!!! But we'd still be at war with Russia with a huge tesla rocketeer jet pack war occurring on many dimensional fronts. Hey did anyone see those extended scenes in Prometheus. Kinda makes it less jump-cutty but also even stupider as fuck. In the end those engineers are some asshole aliens who sell their weapons tech to other alien races like the predators to be used it their rituals. Exactly as I said the whole thing was before the movie came out. You said I was crazy. You said I was retarded. You said I was a douchebag. But was I a crazy retarded douchebag? Or was I a, genius?!

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 12:12 p.m. CST

    ultratron, are you the resurrected spirit of Howard Beale?

    by Bill C.

  • Oh really? Please specifically tell me how you are going to keep this promise. Is there an actual bill you are proposing or is this just more empty rhetoric?

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 12:51 p.m. CST

    It's gettin' hot in here. So, take off all your clothes.

    by SergeantStedenko

    And ultratron will give you a cucumber rub.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Did somebody say cucumber rub?

    by Bobo_Vision


  • Oct. 15, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST

    "ultratron will give you a cucumber rub" Now that's a scary though!!

    by albert comin

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 1:54 p.m. CST

    socialist healthcare?

    by MateoMcD

    I may be wrong, but I think that you are allowed to buy your own additional insurance in countries with single-payer systems and employ private physicians... right? So, for rich people, it's basically the same. You can pay a lot for super-awesome healthcare. Then there's the group of people who have healthcare provided by their employers that's pretty decent. You'll get about the same level of healthcare, but may have to plan ahead a little better for non-urgent appointments, and it will cost a lot less. For poor people, you'll have healthcare. Of course, you have healthcare now, it's just that you have to wait until your life is in danger and you go to the emergency room and you get billed for more than your net worth and go bankrupt... and the rest of us pay for it anyway with our taxes and insurance premiums going up... so I guess it's kind of like we have single-payer already... but our version includes life-ruining bankruptcy.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Can we ave James Bond shoot the people who hate the poor in the ass?

    by albert comin

    For Queen And Country And Social-Economic Equity.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 2:12 p.m. CST

    British Healthcare is Dire

    by NotaGeekbutLovedStarWars

    It was a great experience for me, as an Australian, to work for 18 months in the UK as an orthpaedic surgeon as I got to see the worst most advanced crippling hip and knee arthritis in patients who had waited patiently for years and years on the NHS waiting list. My wife worked in the emergency department where people dropped like flies from things like treatable ischaemic heart disease. There is some sort of national patriotic blindness in the UK where great pride is taken in their national health system even though it is palpably terrible to casual observation. Nothing is perfect but Australia is not too bad with a strong private sector (around 60% insure themselves) and an inefficient inadequate public safetly net system. I could believe the Brits would celebrate the NHS, it seemed ludicrous to me, but that's how they want to see it and good luck to them for enduring their limited service I suppose...

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 2:14 p.m. CST

    British Healthcare is Dire

    by NotaGeekbutLovedStarWars

    couldn't believe, sorry

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 2:25 p.m. CST

    What does America Make?....

    by Will

    "Does diabetes count as product?" Heard that on SNL this week. Glad to see Skyfall is receiving positive reviews, I was nervously anxious to see what the critics would say. After the last Bond outing I was left thoroughly unsatisfied. Can't wait to see Craig back in action as Bond on the big-screen. Skyfall will be my first movie outing since Dark Knight Rises. Too bad we have to wait till Nov 8th... And Herc, I feel ya man, I have family in England and Canada, and Australia, they all have single payer and they love it. The health insurance companies have fooled Americans into thinking that a single-payer system means long lines and poor care. But if ya want to change things, get out there on the streets and encourage people to vote, not just in the national election but the local elections. Things won't get better until we vote out the Senators and Congressman who have been bribed and bought by big business interests. But as an entertainment news site, AICN probably isn't the best forum for this though. That being said, to those who trust wall street (ie: Insurance companies) over government. Just remember the US constitution. It starts with "We the people" Or remember what Lincoln said, when he faced a divided nation in his time... "and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth." ...Now I'm gonna crawl back in my hole and play Xcom.....

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 2:49 p.m. CST

    British cinema-goers have a higher life expectancy

    by DOYLE1

    ...than US cinema-goers. That's for sure.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 3 p.m. CST

    Xcom rules, no shame in admiting you play it.

    by albert comin

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Rechief forgot a little something from history . . .

    by Insidious_Bastard

    It's called The Civil War. It settled that whole "Who has authority over who" thing. The Federal Government trumps all. So, if the Federal Government (Congress) establishes a single payer system, it goes for all 50 states. Unless, of course, you want to have another little war and ruin the country once and for all.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 3:22 p.m. CST

    doyle1, yeah, America is a pretty f'd up sick country

    by SergeantStedenko

    The same party that claims to be pro-life is for guns, war, the death penalty and denying people healthcare. And the funniest thing is that most of them consider themselves Christians. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 3:31 p.m. CST

    & the good news we DON'T have single-payer health care.

    by Detached


  • Oct. 15, 2012, 3:34 p.m. CST

    @sergeantstedenko- you are clueless

    by Detached

    people are pro-life because babies are innocent. convicted felons are not, hence in some cases a death penalty. nobody is "denying health care to anyone" - it's a question of what system works, and what doesn't. big government doesn't. and no wants war, but because of war (WWII, the Revolutionary War), you have the freedom to expose your ignorance for all to see.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 4:30 p.m. CST

    i'm in canada.

    by Jubba

    and i don't think your arguments are made stronger by sarcasm. just state the facts and leave your tone of voice out of it. the facts speak for themselves. we're just better than the USA, and that's ok.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 5:35 p.m. CST

    I like Adele's voice, but that theme song is weak.

    by kabong

    Silly rhyming. <p> Bring back Shirley Bassey with a version that goes like, "Skyfaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllllllllll. He loves only Skyfall. He loves Skyfall."

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 6:37 p.m. CST

    Why the fu£c are people putting politics up here???

    by Jaymie69

    You stupid c^nts.. It's a film

  • And we're a healthy, non-smoking family, which means we rarely need health care.... ...and I LOVE it! Please let's keep this system.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 7:38 p.m. CST

    The name is Care, Health Care

    by drompter

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 7:40 p.m. CST

    re: "these 007 reviews were posted at other sites days ago."

    by Hercules

    Most of the posts we linked to were posted Saturday. This post went up Sunday. So I think what you MEANT to type is, "these 007 reviews were posted at other sites hours ago." The Variety review appeared in print this morning. I guess if you wanted them posted faster, you should maybe have emailed them to me faster than the girl who actually emailed them to me.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Which means this site is improving.

    by drompter

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 8:09 p.m. CST

    This is encouraging. About that release date:

    by Larry_Sanders

    I had no idea it was hitting the rest of the planet two weeks earlier. I was planning on seeing this in the theaters, but I sure as hell will download it early if it hits the torrent sites.

  • ...but everyone gets access to basic care. You know, like how you pay taxes for schools, the police, etc.

  • Think about how much more entertainment we'd be consuming and creativity we'd be enjoying if America had single-payer. It's all relevant.

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 10:54 p.m. CST

    And we will have elected a NEW president by November Fucking 8.

    by Marc Cerasini

  • Oct. 15, 2012, 11:49 p.m. CST

    skyfall looks awesome

    by Anino

    Can't wait to watch it on November Fucking 8th after we elect a new president. I work in public health in the most democrat lefty city in the most democrat lefty county in deep blue Washington State. Even IF single-payer healthcare were a good thing, which is up for debate--there's too much glut of paper-pushers (like myself) and inept bureaucracy--it'll just be ANOTHER thing run into the ground by inefficiency and ineffective union labor. If there's one thing local, state, and federal government are good at--it's at wasting tax dollars or mismanaging it. Just because a president or a government PROMISE something feel-good sounding like 'single-payer' doesn't mean reality will follow suit or that the infrastructure is in place to actually deliver it. Free (ish) healthcare (free ANYTHING for that matter) increases demand. Does government mandated single-payer healthcare magically create all the extra doctors, clinics, and medical equipment to actually MEET that new increased demand? It's just as magical as vague slogans like "We are the change we have been waiting for!"

  • You guys always try to put off of a vibe of not giving a fuck about America, but you also just can't let us be in our oh so horrible system of principles over practicality. Yes, semi-socialized alternatives may very well be functionally better/cheaper/whatever. It's also semi-socialized, which stands in stark contrast to the concept that America was founded on. So some of us here in America disagree with something like that. I can understand some of you having a problem with our disagreement. But all of the pretending like anyone who doesn't want universal or single-payer healthcare is a fucking moron is reductive and pointless, no matter how in vogue your point of view might be right now. Literally all of the arguments I've seen against the American healthcare system on this thread can be distilled down to "if you like the American system your fucking stupid because most of the world disagrees with you!" Oh. So we make decisions based on popularity now. Cool. No scruples in government anymore.

  • Oct. 16, 2012, 12:02 a.m. CST

    Oh boy. Another Daniel Craig borefest.

    by DanielnocharismaCraig

    Fell asleep watching QoS when it came out. Daniel Craig is the most overated Bond ever. The most overated actor ever in actuality. Trying to act tough with putting on a sour face and doing action scenes with shaky cam is not what I would call entertainment. Roger Moore was entertainment. Sean Connery was entertainment. Not this hack.

  • Oct. 16, 2012, 1:21 a.m. CST


    by lv_426

    Shut yer yappers you britty twits. Go have sum tee and skrumperts ya wankers! We hear in 'merica got all the bombz n' guns folks. We gonna build ourselfs some badass robbots like termnater and robocop to kick yer commie asses. Then we'll blow up the whole fukin earf. Hells yeaher! Don't you brits watch the news these weeks? Now we here in america got guys that can go up into outer space in a big shiny balloon and perchute down on yer asses! We gots ODSTs like from Halo. MASTER CHIEF is goonna tear up big ben and teabag the royalty folks! You can take that to tha bank!

  • Oct. 16, 2012, 3:06 a.m. CST

    When the US farts, the rest of the world trembles.

    by albert comin

    Of course the rest of the world is very interested in what the US does, because it always have international consequences and implications. Always. So, of course the rest of the world has not only interest but an opinion on it. This should not come as a suprise to anybody. The US is still the cheerleader in front of the band guiding it's direction.

  • Any talk that social oriented political movements goes against the spirit of the fouding fathers is mere after the fact speculation... at best. For all we know, if the fouding fathers had known of socialism, they might had fell inlove wiht it so hard they woud changed their minds about the constitution. The fact is, we don't know because there was no such thing back then so we do not know their minds would be about it and never will (and there would very probably be disagremeents, as it would). Everything else is mere speculation.

  • Oct. 16, 2012, 4:11 a.m. CST


    by albert comin

    Fucking up the poor man for the sake of the rich man, yeaaaaah!!!!

  • Oct. 16, 2012, 4:15 a.m. CST

    Things i learned from this talkback:

    by albert comin

    The american dream and the fouding fathers's visin was to protect the rich and fucking up the poor and treat the latter as worst then cattle. And if you do not abide by this you are a fucking dirty baby eating communist!

  • And when he catches them he whould beat the living shit out of them to a bloody pulp, shot them dead like dogs and thrown their bodies to a trash dump, like he did to Mathis. He would drink a Vesper cocktail for a work well done, and M would show up to tell him who would be the next target. I could watch that movie for hours on end.

  • Oct. 16, 2012, 7:04 a.m. CST

    so Javiar has bad hair

    by quintana007

    nothing new here

  • Oct. 16, 2012, 7:16 a.m. CST

    Which was better: TDKR or Avengers?

    by babbune

    Soz, couldn't resist...

  • Oct. 16, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST

    @Mr babbune

    by albert comin

    Answer: Both. See how easy it is to answer that?

  • Oct. 16, 2012, 9 a.m. CST


    by Jarrete Barnett


  • Oct. 16, 2012, 9:30 a.m. CST

    @Mr Scirocco

    by babbune


  • It is also important to point out that the constitution protects freedom of religion or lack of. The idea that a few cell constitute a soul is a religious belief and we should not be forcing that belief on say someone who is an atheist and doesn't even believe in the existence of a soul. But, then I realize that conservatives only pay heed to the Constitution when it is convenient for them.

  • Oct. 16, 2012, 9:53 a.m. CST

    More conservative hypocrisy:

    by SergeantStedenko

    Let's prevent a woman from having the right to choose whether to have a child she cannot afford to take care of. And at the same time, let's get rid of Medicaid and food stamps, kick that child into the streets and make sure she doesn't have enough to eat or healthcare to keep her alive. And let's gut public education so said child has absolutely zero chance of making in the world. But, every life is precious* so let's get rid of abortion. *That is until you are actually born.

  • Oct. 16, 2012, 1:06 p.m. CST

    @scirocco Regarding Founding Fathers

    by Cody

    You're right, all we have are their writings which spell their belief in certain ideas that are the fundamental opposite of those of socialism.

  • Oct. 16, 2012, 1:23 p.m. CST

    jesus tap dancing christ

    by JamesT

    Why do you guys continually let Herc derail these talkbacks with political bullshit. Seriously? Can't you just ignore it?

  • Oct. 16, 2012, 3:33 p.m. CST

    @Mr codysolo

    by albert comin

    Again, there was no socialism back then for the founding fathers to compare their ideals to, so, again, it's all just speculation. The truth is, you do not know for sure. The point is, it's all your intepretation, and speculation. what is my point? Leave the founding fathers alone from your and mine and anybody's elses pet ideals. They are not cows to be milk at anybody's convinience.

  • Oct. 16, 2012, 3:36 p.m. CST

    @Mr jamest

    by albert comin

    There's wisdom in what you said, and unfortunatly i have myself allowed to perpectuate this thing. I'm not too proud of it.

  • Oct. 16, 2012, 3:46 p.m. CST

    @sergeantstedenko gets it.

    by Jarrete Barnett

    Hypocrisy in it's purest form. Let's force you into a lifestyle you likely won't benefit from, and limit as many alternatives as possible. They're determined to set everybody but themselves up for failure, while hiding behind "but you can't blame the government" rhetoric... plain as day.

  • Oct. 16, 2012, 5:32 p.m. CST

    QoS is just fine--in certain context

    by Kremzeek

    Not as good as Casino Royale, no. And I admit it's not a stellar entry to the series on its own. However... Watch QoS as an extension to Casino. You'll more than likely love it. Or, at the very least, like it a hell of a lot more than you did prior. The problem with QoS isn't that it's a shitty film--quite the contrary. The problem is it works best as part of Casino. I recommend you watch Casino, then stop it just as the end credits start to roll. Then, throw on QoS and watch the whole thing together as a 4 hour film. It's AWESOME. QoS really shines in this context. Do yourself a favor and try it out.

  • Oct. 17, 2012, 3:15 a.m. CST

    @Mr kremzeek

    by albert comin

    You're right about QOS, it's a better movie then what i say might imply. But the shaky-cam abuse made in that movie just takes me out of it big time. Just thinking aobut it gives me migrane. If QOS hadn't those anoying shaky-cams, if the action has been as clear as in Casino Royale, then yes, i had no problem in considering QOS as an extention of Casino Royale, which is, and taken it as a near equal. But i can't. The action scenes have always been a fundamental part of the Bond series, and in QOS they fucked it up. No other way to put it.

  • Oct. 17, 2012, 11:01 a.m. CST


    by Kremzeek

    I agree 100% about the shaky cam nonsense. I LOATHE IT. That whole opening scene in QoS is pathetic. It's so intent on forcing you to think "shaky cam is cool!"... but the result is you can't see a damned thing. It took me out of the film too. (I hate that about the 2nd and 3rd Bourne films too. It's awful.) But somehow I was able to look passed it on QoS. If you're not able to do that, I completely understand. Shaky cam aside, though Quantum is a worthy follow-up to Casino. Definitely looking forward to Skyfall (and hopefully the shaky cam is gone this time around).

  • Oct. 17, 2012, 1:03 p.m. CST

    @Mr kremzeek

    by albert comin

    I agree that the story of QOS is quite good. One or two scientific and geo-politics blunders aside, the movie as story is quite enjoyable, the characters are great to follow, a memorable action girl Bond girl who in a rare moment in the series he doesn't end up shagging (the cortesy goes to Gemma Anterton) and there's some clever asides all through the movie. Graig is great in both the quiet drama and the action scenes. He's good in the action scenes, the camera work is not. It's just too bad that Martin Campbel didn't return to make it too, instead of the lacustre eco-conspiracy movie he made i can't bother to remember the title (to make matters worst, it was hmi remaking a very hihly regarded TV show he had directed 20+ years ago which put him on the map). It's as if Martin Campbel was born to direct James Bond movies.

  • Oct. 18, 2012, 11:16 p.m. CST

    Nothing about this movie is inspiring

    by chien_sale

  • Oct. 19, 2012, 5:17 a.m. CST

    The name of Sam Mendes is not inspiring? Fuck's sakes!

    by albert comin

  • Oct. 19, 2012, 8:25 p.m. CST

    We've done QoS after Casino and it's still a poor film

    by Kenny8

    It's not only a poor film, it's a poor Bond film. A mess with a weak villian and confusing and headache inducing action sequences. If it was a Moore Bond film, at least you could've had a few groan types laughs along the way. QoS is also the worst looking Bond film ever, with the dullest locations and Bond girls this side of "Tomorrow Never Dies"