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Clark Gregg's Agent Phil Coulson Is The Lead Character In Joss Whedon’s Proposed MARVEL'S S.H.I.E.L.D. TV Series For ABC!!
Apparently Joss Whedon just announced at New York Comic Con that it was decided long ago that the “ Marvel's S.H.I.E.L.D.” TV series would be built around Agent Phil Coulson (who died in “The Avengers”).
I’m thrilled.
Clark Gregg will again play Coulson, the SHIELD operative first introduced onscreen in "Iron Man." Gregg wend on to play the character in "Iron Man 2," "Thor," "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer," "The Consultant," "The Avengers," and even the animated TV series "Ultimate Spider-Man."
There's also chatter, by the way, that Gregg's Coulson will also appear in "Iron Man 3" and "Thor: The Dark World."
Find all of EW’s story on the matter here.
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It goes to the Munsters Halloween special article.
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Long Live Coulson!!!!!
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Oct. 13, 2012, 10:35 p.m. CST
If Phil Coulson is dead, I'm getting a hummer from Black Widow tonight
by Itchy
in other news, I'm making my wife dress in her leather outfit, wear a red wig, and hum the meat stick tonight. Not sure what that means, but I'm looking forward to it.
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Are we ever going to get to see some REAL Shield agents on this show? Why boring Coulson when we could have had Clay Quartermain? The comics are filled with great Shield characters he can use, they should have went that route. The last time Whedon tried to create his own characters we ended up with Dollhouse.
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Didn't Item 47 pretty much close the book on the possibility of Coulson surviving?
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I was just wondering why this boring character was used in place of a real shield agent. Then I asked why Whedon was creating the rest of the characters himself when the last time he tried it we ended up with Dollhouse.
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Oct. 13, 2012, 11:43 p.m. CST
Ugh...meant to say "I didn't say that Whedon created Coulson"
by cerberus
Sorry, my thoughts are all jumbled today.
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Oct. 13, 2012, 11:43 p.m. CST
so is it a prequel show? or he really just didn't die?
by la te ral us
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Several sites had this rumour posted weeks ago that Marvel wanted to spin coulson's death into him being resurrected as Vision
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Oct. 14, 2012, 12:05 a.m. CST
re "so is it a prequel show? or he really just didn't die?"
by Hercules
We don't know yet, but I'm guessing they're going to make him better than he was. Better. Stronger. Faster.
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The Coulson that died was a Life Model Decoy of the real one. Real Phil Coulson lives.
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You can't have Ultron without Hank Pym.
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I mean, they mentioned it in Avengers. I don't see that little nugget NOT paying off somehow. I'm not saying the real Coulson didn't die, but, I imagine that they would either be using his LMD, or have the series take place before he was killed. Either way, more Clark Gregg is a great thing.
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Oct. 14, 2012, 1 a.m. CST
LMD sounds like a lame cop out and wouldnt make sense to fair weather fans
by lowpassat
The "Life Model Decoy" line worked becasue you can see Tony Stark going through the trouble to make a real life double of himself and funny because to the general audience it wasnt something that you ever thought of before he said it. To bring Coulson back this way seems really lame and completly destroys the Avengers story arc IMO. They ony got their isht together because Coulson died. If you want to bring him back as a "Million Dollar man" kinda thing thats fine, but still a cop out IMO. They killed a popular character and now want him back to anchor a TV series.
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Oct. 14, 2012, 1:01 a.m. CST
So they're going to ruin the one poignant moment in The Avengers because everyone loves Clark Gregg?
by Humie Bubbie
Fuck that shit. This is the kind of bullshit that makes the comic universes suck so much. If you can just undo a major character's death one "issue" later, why bother to kill them in the first place? It's Deus Ex Machina crap to please the mewling fanboys.
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I think he was. In response to someone mentioning Ultron.
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Is not exactly uncommon in the comic book world. What's the problem?
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Oct. 14, 2012, 1:30 a.m. CST
(spoiler) It's not that surprising considering Whedon's track record
by Cannabis Holocaust
He brought back Angel after Buffy had to kill him in the season 2 finale. Not to mention bringing back Buffy after her own death. (even though it was expected) And of course after Spike sacrificed himself to save the world in the SERIES FINALE of Buffy, Whedon brought him back as a regular cast member on Angel. Whedon obviously has no problem reneging on emotional or impactful deaths in his work.
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There was a time when a character's death meant something in comic books. Jason Todd, Gwen Stacey, Jean Grey. Then they realized it meant more sales to bring them back. So everyone who died only died for a few issues. Bucky Barnes never died at all. Jason Todd came back from temporal ripples across dimensions. If a character's death isn't permanent, it has no meaning. And Coulson's death was the force that united The Avengers.
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life model decoy, or he was an android all along, he has a laser scan his eye in one scene, he is Fury's good eye, could be the Vision now, or he and Loki have a sick sense of humor or someone with magic power brought him back to life like Odin, or Coulson is now a ghost or spirit from Hel
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Make it happen. !
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Oct. 14, 2012, 1:49 a.m. CST
Coulsons (supposed?) Death united the Avengers regardless of it being real
by hadrion
I don't see him coming back detracting from that at all. It was real and permanent to them at that time, in that moment, and therefor had meaning. If anything, him coming back could be a decent dramatic device, if handled as deftly(existentially) as Whedon has in the past.
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Oct. 14, 2012, 1:50 a.m. CST
Heck, the film itself acknowledges using death to manipulate them into joining forces...
by hadrion
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Oct. 14, 2012, 1:59 a.m. CST
They won't bring back Coulson, it's been pretty much stated already. Therefore, series is a prequel, pre Avengers, perhaps even the formation of SHEILD
by FreeBeer
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It's a series about S.H.I.E.L.D. cleaning up after the Avengers (and other military?), making sure alien technology doesn't fall into the wrong hands. It's the perfect mold, made for television. Every episode they'll be tracking down another piece of tech. And of course there will be other over-arching story lines and it's only a starting point to maybe go into different directions later, but you get the idea. It's basically "Item 47" in serialized television form. They can even continue to reference other Super Hero movies as they come out as the fall out from their actions has to continually be dealt with. Zombie Coulson, confirmed. ^_^
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...so could be flashback sequences explaining Shield's origins. He may not be 'back from the dead' at all.
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...he's headlining the show. Guess we'll only know when we know!
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Oct. 14, 2012, 2:48 a.m. CST
Still think Item 47 is a waste of space if we dont get more Lizzy Caplan.
by DidntPullOutInTimeCop
I mean, what was the point of them joining SHIELD if we don't get to see them again?
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Oct. 14, 2012, 2:55 a.m. CST
Coulson LMD as a SHIELD / alien hybrid tech type prototype thingie
by Al
SHIELD making LMD's out of the gate might be a bit much for a superhero show. But, hey, a little dash of StarkTech, a pinch of Asgardian magic, some scraped together leftover Chitari giant snake bugs and BOOM! Agent Coulson.
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They always had an out for Coulsons death by using LMDs.
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I was really sad when they were making SHIELD into a tv show and the perfect star, Phil Coulson, was dead and couldn't be in it. I really really really hope they don't make it an LMD situation though. I will feel this is a cheap shot and this series will have a hard time with me - I love these movies alot but I would actually throw my hands up and walk away from the series potentially if they use LMD's to get out of this. LMD's are super super cheap. Let him be a head in a jar for the tv show, let him be Vision, let him keep trying out unstable robot bodies. Whatever. Just make it that Coulson actually died. Otherwise, it's super duper duper lame. Also, he had too much goofiness to be a robot all along.
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I mean, zombies are still hot now, right?
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Oct. 14, 2012, 4:23 a.m. CST
Also, Spoiler Tagging an article when the "spoiler" is in the headline is simply retarded...
by -Halfscan-
FACT!
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Surprised nobody has brought up this possibility. Or if they have they didn't make it very clear. Fer reals Coulson could have died in Avengers and the Coulson appearing in the sequel films and the TV show could be HIMSELF an LMD. Which would make the transition into Vision much more palatable, I would think.
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The last hint we see of Coulson's fate in the Avengers is that shot of Fury looking upset while a 'paramedic' of some sort rushes to Coulson's aid (Coulson's off screen)... I don't think he actually died.. Just sayin'
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He's a SHIELD Agent, what's Neal McDonough doing these days?
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Oct. 14, 2012, 6:43 a.m. CST
I like Coulson and Gregg, but he should stay dead. I don't like character resurrections in... well actually in anything
by Rebel Scumb
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Oct. 14, 2012, 6:47 a.m. CST
I wish they had known about the SHIELD show when doing the set up movies. They could have cast Widow, Fury & Hawkeye with actors that would sign on to be the stars of the TV show
by Rebel Scumb
Instead of A list movie stars who would never commit to such a thing Scarjo, SLJ and Renner were all great, don't get me wrong moviewise they did a fantastic job, I'm just saying from a pragmatic standpoint if they really wanted to do a SHIELD show that ties in with the larger universe that would have been an ideal way to do it. SHIELD the series with Fury, Widow, Hawkeye, Hill & Coulson in flashbacks or whatever would have been great. This just feels like the show, while a great idea is going to constantly have to maneuver around the fact that SLJ, Scarjo, Renner, etc never show up. Much less RDjr or any of the actual avengers
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Maybe if the Vision was a robot created by Hank Pym that would be cool. But we don't need a Halle Berry Catwoman version of him. And fuck Jarvis.
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Oct. 14, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST
As for Coulson's death being a key factor in h irony the Avengers, that's bullshit.
by Fries Against
Like they wouldn't have tried to help the innocent people being attacked by aliens if Coulson had lived. Yeah that Captain America is just a dick like that.
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Oct. 14, 2012, 9:24 a.m. CST
Autocorrect fucked me. Should say, as for Coulson's death being a key factor in uniting the Avengers.
by Fries Against
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I like Coulson as much as the next guy, but it is a cop out unless they come up with a really spectacular way of bringing him back. And prequels suck.
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Oct. 14, 2012, 9:46 a.m. CST
Fury lied about Coulson's death. He was manipulating their egos
by frank
like he did using Coulson's collectible cards, in order to bring them together as a team. Pay attention to what Fury says in the radio, he never clearly states that Coulson died, only he implies it.
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Can you feel it in the air tonight?
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Douche.
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that he's needed inside for his face scan? (On the deck of the helicarrier). Another indicator there's a Coulson LMD...
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YA YOU KNOW ME!!!!
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Oct. 14, 2012, 3:11 p.m. CST
When everyone is saying they're down with LMD (yeah you know me!) I think it's implied that Real Coulson died in Avengers & TV Show Coulson is an LMD (yeah you know me)
by Al
As in, literally, this is Coulson's LMD that is in the SHIELD show.
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Oct. 14, 2012, 3:12 p.m. CST
And I do think that just "Fury lied" would dilute the dramatic impact of the moment
by Al
That's the only reason I wouldn't like it to be "hah, didn't really die, jokes!" and everyone is thinking LMD Coulson is running the show.
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Oct. 14, 2012, 4:18 p.m. CST
Coulson was never going to stay dead for one very simple reason
by Stegman84
They need a reason to split the team again, and the perfect fragmentation grenade is the "Fury lied, we can't trust him" wedge. That way the Avengers get a reason to be split up, some siding with Fury, some not, they get to snipe at each other again, before all coming together all over again "on their own terms" to fight the latest global threat "that only they can defeat". Seriously, anyone who ever thought that Coulson was dead, or would stay dead in any way, is...well, lets be kind and say pretty damn gullible.
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that's all I got. So curious now how this is going to play out. But I really hope it's not all new characters and some established Marvel characters are in the mix.
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Oct. 14, 2012, 5:13 p.m. CST
I'M COOL WITH CLARK GREGG PLAYING COULSON REGARDLESS OF HOW LAME HIS "RESURRECTION" IS. I CAN SUSPEND DISBELIEF IN A SHOW ABOUT SUPER HEROES.
by Darth Busey
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Oct. 14, 2012, 5:13 p.m. CST
ALSO, THEY SHOULD MAKE LUKE CAGE A RECURRING CHARACTER LIKE "HAWK" FROM "SPENCER FOR HIRE". THAT WOULD BE COOL.
by Darth Busey
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He's the gosh-darn Cuddler from The Shield. Kudos to Gregg for not getting tyepcast. And I hope he actually died in Avengers and lives again through magic or superscience, for the record. If Coulson didn't actually die it would cheapen a scene any comic book geek knows was cheap to begin with. Still.
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He didn't create Agent PHIL Coulson...but he did create his twin brother, Agent Bill Coulson who the series will be built around.
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Oct. 14, 2012, 6:33 p.m. CST
By the way, what is the point in using a spoiler warning if you put the spoiler right in the fucking headline?
by Stegman84
Not that I care personally, but still. Stupidity abounds, I guess.
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Oct. 14, 2012, 8:40 p.m. CST
There's all kinds of ways they could do this without bringing back the real Coulson
by rev_skarekroe
Flashbacks, prequel show, LMD, holographic AI, clone, etc. etc. etc. It's comics.
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It's live action.
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Oct. 14, 2012, 10:13 p.m. CST
Perfect way to both have him in the show and keep him dead...
by T Bethel
...and I thought of this as soon as I heard of the show. The pilot should be Coulson's funeral. After the funeral, you have them tell a new group of agents that they will be continuing/following up on/closing out all of Agent Coulson's unsolved cases. They are told that Coulson made extensive, detailed video logs of all of his progress (which totally fits with his character, by the way.) Since he was "Fury's one good eye," he would have had his hand in a lot of cases. Each episode could start out with the new team reviewing these video logs to set up the story for that episode. These could also be similar appearances for both IM3 and T:TDW.
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Oct. 14, 2012, 10:15 p.m. CST
If Nolan can bring Bruce Wayne back without explanation after he died in a nuclear explosion, then Coulson can come back too.
by Mr. Moe
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Oct. 14, 2012, 10:18 p.m. CST
I was at the show when they announced it and Gregg mentioned the common theories such as
by cookepuss
... LMD. ... being resurrected as Vision. ... and (jokingly) Loki's blade not penetrating his body, as in the UK version. As he mentioned all of those things, I think that it's highly unlikely that it's any of them. More likely than not, Fury was just being a dick and lied. Not unprecedented for the character.
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an earlier scene set up the fact that he could remote control the ship... the implication is that he got off at some point before he flew it out to sea... everyone then assumes b-man is dead and he is able to go live a private life in paris with c-woman...
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Oct. 15, 2012, 12:09 a.m. CST
i thought coulson was played as suffering during the loki scene, so...
by darthadv
i can't see him being anything but the real coulson at that point, unless androids/LMD's are meant to be able to suffer with human-like tendencies in those situations... also, given loki's magical powers, would it be implied that he'd be able to tell whether he was fighting a sentient being or an android/LMD? however, having said that, i wouldn't rule out coulson being saved after the fact and having fury lie to the team to get them charged up and united, rallying around his supposed death either way, whether it's the real coulson saved after the fact or some sort of copy of him after the fact (perhaps in tribute to the real coulson's service to SHIELD), i think a tv show has a lot of possibilities... plus, there's no reason they couldn't figure out a special guest appearance here and there from a major character from the films here and there... i know that SLJ would likely be game, evidenced by his career and lengthy filmography... then again, if they can't, i think they can still pull it off with clever writing and interesting character introductions that are perhaps too obscure for the general public and might not merit their own movies, per se...
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Genuinely sorry for spoiling that! The again, the whole damn article is marked with SPOILER. There's a big chance that if you haven't seen Avengers and the extras (especially SHIELD extras) that could be spoiled in a SHIELD related talkback, no?
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Avengers came out in theaters 5 months ago and has been out on video for a couple of weeks. Get off your lazy butt and see it already. If you haven't seen it yet, stay away from Marvel movie/TV articles.
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Oct. 15, 2012, 2:59 a.m. CST
And i dont think the show is going to run concurrent with the movies, in all likelihood it will take place in the past
by Balkin Flabgurter
Give background stories, and different adventures that lead up to the beginning of phase 1. but it is based off a comic book so in all reality Dr.Strange is going to pull his body from the nether and save him for Fury.
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Seriously - what sentence was ever improved by that? "To be, or not to be; that is the question, IMHO." We know it's your opinion, and we don't care that you're humble. Also, Coulson contemplating donuts is more entertaining than you could ever be.
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That doesn't mean he won't be back though. Whedon said that he's dead. He didn't want him to die, but he had to to bring The Avengers together. Hopefully the show takes place after The Avengers, so they can clear up how they brought him back. I think if the show is a prequel it makes it less exciting.
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I would rather see Jasper, Clay, Val, or even Pierce! Now they were SHIELD agents!
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Oct. 15, 2012, 7:03 a.m. CST
Fantastic use of the spoiler marking Herc, really showed your IQ on that.
by Steve Rogers
You don't need to mark it spoiler if you're going to actually put the spoiler in the headline. What a fucking idiot.
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They have arc reactors, a suit that can allow a man to fly, arrow heads that do different things, frank castle was beat, shot multiple times, then blown up....but a spear through the chest is what kills you in this universe. Oh and they flew an aircraft carrier out of the water....but Phil is dead from one spear....riiiiight.
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We've seen Jasper. He's in Avengers and all the one-shot films and maybe Thor - I can't remember.
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With Ruffalo this time. ^_^
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Undoubtedly they'll make a second one.
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No one ever hear of a "comic book death"? I'm more surprised that they are reviving him so soon. I would have expected at least one Coulson-less film to come out before they brought him back. When is this supposed to air anyway?
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If Coulson is returning, and they are using the SHEILD show intertwined with the movies..fantastic. Love the idea. Even as a completely independant show, I think this is great. What I'm not hoping for is yet another "prequel" story...for some reason, I just can't get into a prequel storyline. It just takes something out of it when you know how the story ends (lone exception Star Trek where they created an alternate universe...not a huge Trekkie, but for some odd reason that kinda works for me) Also, I do like how the Walking Dead uses some "flashbacks" from time to time..that also wrks for me. Tidbits on how we got to where we are intertwined with the story adds to it. Thumbs up...more Coulsin is good, it's in good hands...can't wait to hear more, and curious to see how it all end up going down!
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Oct. 15, 2012, 9:36 a.m. CST
Now, will Marvel bring Phil Coulson: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. into the Earth-616 continuity?
by Royston Lodge
They already brought "black Nick Fury" into Earth-616 (poorly).
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I thought his death served a purpose. They flip it over and are like "He's not dead!"... Bull shit that thing stabbed straight through him. It actually made Loki menacing a little. Stupid decision. This show will get canceled quickly though so it doesn't matter.
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Oct. 15, 2012, 11:40 a.m. CST
Bringing people back from the dead is a time-honoured comic book tradition.
by Royston Lodge
Maybe he was a L.M.D.?
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And at pretty much the same time as Nick Fury's black son.
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who are the fucking retards who like this guy?? where are they?!? yeah i get it - he's a fast talking nerdy smartass who all the other nerdy smartass cunts on aicn wish they were... whatever. i cheered when he died. fuck him.
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Oct. 15, 2012, 2:15 p.m. CST
I'm betting it's a LMD of Coulson seeing how the real Coulson died.
by Wcwlkr
I just don't think Marvel that's tried so hard to ground these films into Reality would do something so blatantly comic like by bringing someone dead back. Unless they make him a LMD or the person that got killed was the LMD. It'd be cool if they made him like the Vision. If they did it any other way I probably wouldn't like it. It would seriously take away the impact from his death in the final act.
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Oct. 15, 2012, 2:22 p.m. CST
Here come the death whores to complain about resurrection ruining everything
by Drath
Geesh. People in real life die. That's enough, so shut up.
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We are going to be getting a Marvel TV show set in the MMU. Though for the most part and for budgetary reasons they will probably be going up against generic bad guys and down to Earth storylines it will still leave the door open for random Marvel characters to show up. Maybe get a decent (or rebotted) Punisher. Someone above mentioned Luke Cage which would be easy to do. Who's to say Scarjo or Hawkeye won't show up for one episode each. If your part of a billion dollar franchise and you want your own movie at some point then why not do an episode or two. If they do it right this can be one of the bestest tv shows ever.
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He should have stayed dead
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I hope he's right.
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Oct. 15, 2012, 7:13 p.m. CST
Who cares. Avengers The Movie sucked anyway.
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Appropriate that they're bringing it to TV, since the movie felt like watching television anyway. Tony Stark in a Brut cologne commercial meets Black Widow in a very special episode of Gray's Anatomy, meets predictable by the-numbers Alias episode (Alias was much better than this movie), with Coulson as the long-suffering Balding White Dad who drives the minivan on the sitcom Flat cinematography, boring editing... In short, no STYLE. At least movies like 300, Batman (89) Dick Tracy, Watchmen, Ang Lee's Hulk had STYLE. because they are COMIC BOOK MOVIES, and so those filmmakers knew how to transfer some of that graphic novel hyper-reality through the filmmaking. I watched Avengers and just fucking YAWNED, I did not say to myself 'wow what an exciting, groundbreaking work of cinema' If you think Coulson was some full fleshed out endearing character who needs T shirts immortalizing him, then please shoot yourself. I mean, it must be fun riding that geek trend and fellating whatever overhyped thing comes along, but fucking please. This was a boring movie. In the canon of comic book films its not even a kernel of corn in the poop of X2's Wolverine.
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0/10 i did laugh though.
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...twisted and evil.
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Oct. 16, 2012, 12:44 a.m. CST
Who gives a shit about this boring,pointless character?
by Detective_Fingerling
He had a whole lot of no screen time over several movies. Basically the equivalent of the "Toastee" guy that popped out from the side of the screen every time you did a Scorpion uppercut in Mortal Kombat 2.
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Oct. 16, 2012, 1:06 a.m. CST
This guy was boring as fuck in the Julia Dreyfuss show already!
by chien_sale
I mean what the fuck do we have to see him on screen again? Him getting killed was perfect!
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I'm glad to know he's not dead. And by him i mean the character, not the actor, thank goodness. Will Maria Hill also be in the show? I also liked her character a lot (and the actress, natch!). The Adventures of Coulson and Hill? Count me in.
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Hell, even in Civil War Wolvie tells Bucky (Winter Soldier) that wone of his early assasinations caused congress to push through the LMD project, and LMD were mentioned in Avengers, (IIRC). Coulson is, was cool. I got no problem with this. My brother and I both whispered LMDs in the theatre..
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I ruined it
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He said "Agent Colson is down,....there here, they called it." "They called it." emplies a medics inability to resuscitate.
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and that one of the reasons that the Cobie Smulders was brought to the forefront is because she'll take over some of the Colson duties in Avengers 2 and the Phase 2 movies. I will be pissed if Colson lives. Fun character but undercuts The Avengers if he lives.
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Whedon would go nuts with exploring the absurdist, existentialist, and just plain weird possibilities storywise of making one of your characters someone who is fundamentally a video game AI routine, times a million. It would make Coulson into River.
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Oct. 17, 2012, 4:34 a.m. CST
sick of characters being turned into robots
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
"robot Jarvis" was a stupid fucking change. so is having to see the POV inside of Tony's helmet every five minutes. Yeah, we know Robert Downey Junior is pretty, BUT PLEASE STOP. Stop trying to act like these movies are anything more than a lot of computer-aided spectacle. There's no character work, mystery, style... it's shit blowing up for guys with crew cuts to jizz over. Occasionally some REALLY BAD CUTESY CLOYING and or SMARMY humor courtesy of Joss Whedon.
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