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If you’re looking for something to do before “Fringe” or “Grimm” on Friday, Oct. 26, you can have a gander at NBC’s “Mockingbird Lane” pilot at 8 p.m., according to the Hollywood Reporter.
AICN can confirm that the plan has been in the works at least since Deadline’s erroneous report of 10 days ago indicating NBC considered the project dead.
“Mockingbird” is an hourlong reboot of “The Munsters” created by writer-producer Bryan Fuller, who also created “Dead Like Me,” “Wonderfalls,” “Pushing Daisies” and NBC’s upcoming Dr. Lecter prequel series “Hannibal.”
It stars Jerry O'Connell as Herman and Eddie Izzard as Grandpa.
Find all of the Reporter’s exclusive on the matter here.

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So if that image is accurate, they are perfectly normal looking? Another Grimm style everything looks normal but maybe they can look monstrous approach? YAWN
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This is amazing news! -Namaste-
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Another ewxample of the impending demise of network television.
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the "Marilyn" gag doesn't work. WTHMF!
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Oct. 11, 2012, 1:21 p.m. CST
I get it! She's got blond hair and shows off her arms, right?
by Polyphenus
Isn't that the new gimmick involving the "normal one" in the family?
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Guy hasn't done anything noteworthy since stealing Rebecca from John Stamos .. and the only things I can think of besides THAT was 'Sliders' and 'Stand By Me'... anything I forget? Not seeing whatever apeal the show is going for really... R.I.P. Munsters Just sayin'
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I would STFU and let him do whatever the hell he wanted. That's how you get shows like 'Breaking Bad' or 'Justified'. By letting the creative people CREATE.
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it goes to series is the word on the street. Hopefully they promote it.
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...I suspect NBC might be using this one-shot airing as a burnoff/test. If it rates well, they might go ahead and try it as a midseason replacement (probably for 'Chicago Fire' or so on); if it doesn't, at least they get some ad revenue or something out of it.
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Also, the best thing Jerry O'Connell ever did was his parody of the Tom Cruise Scientology video.
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Oct. 11, 2012, 3:20 p.m. CST
CBS will be running an hour of analog snow against this under the title CSI: SIBERIA
by spacehog
They'll win the timeslot handily.
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Admittedly, in that pic the kid looks kind of creepy, but is Jerry O'Connell made up at all? Herman (if that's even his name anymore) is supposed to be the scariest-looking one of the bunch, yet he possibly looks even more normal than Marilyn. Maybe they're keeping his make-up job under wraps? I was very curious to see how they'd pull this off, but as of right now the TV purist in me is kind of concerned. I'll probably still check it out... but my expectations have dropped pretty low.
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Oct. 11, 2012, 3:34 p.m. CST
Looks about as good as that Doctor Strange pilot from the 70's
by Samuel Fulmer
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Oct. 11, 2012, 3:37 p.m. CST
Pretty silly of them to go ahead with this. No one wants to see Jerry O'Connell in this role.
by happybunni
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Oct. 11, 2012, 3:46 p.m. CST
So they're burning it off in the Friday night death slot, on Halloween weekend?
by _V_
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Oct. 11, 2012, 4:15 p.m. CST
Could have had a good creepy angle on cable; gpa a pedophile or something
by Simpsonian
ie. american horror story on FX, but on network tv this will be very limited...
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Oct. 11, 2012, 4:36 p.m. CST
Well, the kid is a werewolf so he'll turn on the full moon, gramps is a vampire, the wife is a witch so it's ok they look normal
by mistergreen
Herman could have had really good plastic surgery.
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I don't see a market for this outside Nick.
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GENIUS!!!! ANOTHER ROUND OF COCAINE FOR ALL INVOLVED!!!! You see....its really all about "The Munster" that lives deep inside all of our own fears and insecurities. Also,the entire show takes place within the snowglobe of an autistic child. For your consideration,this awards season....
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It's not long for this world.
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First (and foremost), you have brainless suits making creative decisions. Second (and second most), you have Bryan Singer at the helm and Third (but not least) you have Jerry O Connell. For a nice Halloween-like conclusion... DOA!!!
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Oct. 11, 2012, 6:38 p.m. CST
Actually Lily is Grandpa's (Dracula) daughter so she is a vampire.
by ray a
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What the FUCKING FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? After a hard night of drinking I woke up with my dick stuck in a bowling bowl finger hole and that STILL looked more normal.
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Looks like a One Direction poster
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Oct. 11, 2012, 9:45 p.m. CST
Deadline’s erroneous report of 10 days ago indicating NBC considered the project dead
by Titus05
the Deadline article was correct...NBC is airing this as a 1 time special instead of an ongoing series
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Oct. 11, 2012, 11:04 p.m. CST
crooooooow I hope to God herc has just stolen the image from Pink is the New Blog
by spacehog
Because if that's the straight-from-the-network image then holy shit.
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Oct. 12, 2012, 12:24 a.m. CST
They've cancelled the show due to creative differences. The pilot is now supposed to air on Halloween
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Hopefully Herman has his cock bitten off by piranha's which causes his deformity similar to the original show. It would also be entertaining. Again.
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Oct. 12, 2012, 12:47 p.m. CST
I'm just glad that this pilot is getting aired as a tv movie
by Samuel Fulmer
I don't know, maybe it's nostaglia for the 70's and 80's when they would do that shit all the time. Shitty pilot (like the Coppola produced The People) gets shoved out for one night, and people years later wonder if it ever really saw it, or was it all just a bad dream.
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Oct. 12, 2012, 1:11 p.m. CST
Why must they reimagine? Cast Brad Garrett & shoot in b&w like the Munsters never left the air
by Crimson Dynamo
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shes smart. [/end spoiler] this thing looks god-awful and the fact that they had to cash grab the munster name instead of thinking up an original scary family idea makes it look even worse.
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Might as well be dead. Friday night is the tv show graveyard.
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Oct. 12, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST
oh my god... that Jerry O'Connel pic just looks incredibly absurd lol
by TheSeeker7
Gee, some "Frankenstein". It's just basically Jerry O'Connell with a line drawn around his neck. Man, I really had a lot more faith in Fuller for this.
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Oct. 12, 2012, 1:41 p.m. CST
and Howard Stern fans -- Izzard here totally looks like he could be a somewhat older and standing upright version of Eric The Midget lol
by TheSeeker7
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Its confusing! This looks like a new post, but the TB is from an earlier post that just had the first pic in it. Like tears in the rain, TB's are a moment in time. You read them chronoligically to get the fail/meltdowns/agruements in real time. I'm sure its as much effort to do a new post, as it is to open up and edit an old one.
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Obviously, no-one has the balls to put an actual ugly character in a lead role (nu Beauty & Beast case also in point), so accepting that, then I will at least check it out. Come on, its Brian Fuller! Dead Like Me and Pushing Daisies! One of the shows that I am most gutted by getting cancelled ever. I had the chance to work with Anna Friel not so long ago, and had to tell her what a crime it was PD got punished. She said thanks, and that Barry Sonnenfield was a lovely man. And that's my incredibly interesting Anna Friel story. So in conclusion, its Brian Fuller. Lets wait and see.
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Everything else looks terrible. In this era of high tech realistic makeup, you would have thought they would have made the cast look innovative and edgy--even fitting in with the goth crowd. Instead it looks like every actor had a clause in his/her contract demanding not to make them look too different. They ain't going "full Munsters", to paraphrase Tropic Thunder. Jerry O'Connel is woefully miscast, and I think that's probably where the problem begins. They needed to find a 6'6" -- 6'10" unknown, or Ex Athlete (Pro Wrestler, Basketball or Football Player), design some cool makeup, and build the look of the show around him. Herman was this massive presence with a shocking appearance, with a man-boy mind. That's what made the Munsters work in the first place and why Herman is so iconic. How they could miss this is way beyond me.
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Hope he doesn't doom this with his habit of being unwatchable in the extreme. Other than him, this looks like it has all the right ingredients.
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love monsters and the like, the old Munsters was in black and white looked like old Universal monsters, and had a charm to it. The Munsters never looked good in color and or with different actors. Will The dragula make an appearance? Should have made show about Monsters who are also a family without the Munsters street name. Clearly using Mocking Bird lane to grab fans of the old show, but then making the show nothing like the original. Really want to like this new show and want to see a weekly series about a family of monsters but they should of went more original with any Munsters rebooting except noods and winks maybe. Would like to see Brad Garrett as Herman Munsters and keep the silly tone of the old show. That joke never got old of the Munsters being a nice friendly family but scaring the piss out of normal folk as they comically run away from Herman thinking he is horrible. The Munsters worked because of black and white, and the time it came out, and the incredible acting talents.
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Charlie O'Connell wouldn't need too much makeup. The guy is naturally Frankinstein-ish looking.
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Or a younger Brad Garrett. The networks just dont have the balls to put anything other than an established, or very beautiful person in every lead role. We should be thankful for GoT for the exposure it gave the Dink, for being such a kickass actor, regardless of anything else. And yes, the big joke from the Munsters, was what a lovely bunch they were even though they scares their neighbours. I have very fond memories of the show, so its a hard follow. But if anyone can do it, then Pushing Daises man can. Just the right tone of whimsy and macabre. God, I miss that damn show!!!
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For once, not just because it is yet another unnecessary remake, but because it clearly lacks the over-the-top campiness of the original. I liked O'Connell in SLIDERS, but he's no Fred Gwynn.
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Oct. 12, 2012, 3:24 p.m. CST
Curiosity makes me want to see this badly. Clearly it really isn't The Munsters as we know it, but I'm okay with that.
by sweeneydave
It was a cheesy schtick that barely worked in the 60s. The fact that Bryan Fuller is behind this ratches up my interest. Besides, if the didn't call it "The Munsters", everyone would just say it was a rip-off of The Munsters. Bottom line; because it's a new spin, I'm willing to check it out. But because it's Bryan Fuller, I'm actually excited.
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Is Rebecca Romjin
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Oct. 12, 2012, 3:27 p.m. CST
Certainly all of us could imagine better actors to fit these roles. But this isn't just finding the person who best fits the suit.
by sweeneydave
Face it, the Munsters was a mediocre show at best. It's on Netflix instant streaming and my kids could only handle a couple episodes before they thought it was too cheesy. Do we want to see that same formula set in 2012? I think it's better to have the whole process reimagined. I'm looking forward to it.
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Oct. 12, 2012, 3:42 p.m. CST
O'Connell isn't worthy enough to tongue bathe Fred Gwens Dead, Dessicated Ball Sack
by conspiracy
...and trying to "Hip" up the ONE OF A KIND Grandpa AL 'Pontang Plower' LEWIS and the world class acting skills of Yvonne DeCarlo with a Brit and a woman who honestly is best known as the better, actually fuckable, half of Ellen DeGeneres, is utter folly. This entire fucking project is a god damned travesty...fuck it...I hope they have to give away the fucking ad space.
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Sorry...my hate is all consuming at this point...May Fred forgive me from the great beyond.
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Oct. 12, 2012, 3:54 p.m. CST
doesn't LOOK bad, but it has to be better than Burton's Dark Shadows
by zom-bot.com
i don't get all the hate for J O'C...but i think having him with nothing but stitches is a mistake. however, if they do a backstory as to where he got his head- or leave the script open to eventually have other actors play the father role when the heads get switched (like we would change clothes, or when the wife wants a 'new man') that could work. as much as brendan fraser is total poison these days, he would have been good for the part of lovable idiot frankendad
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Oct. 12, 2012, 3:54 p.m. CST
YOU PEOPLE DON'T GET IT!!! This is ACTUALLY a sequeal to Piranha 3-D and shows what happened to Jerry O'Connell after he got his dick eaten by the fish!
by R Howell
They sowed him back together and he had a son who grew up to be Paul Ryan!!!
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is if Professor Arturo and the rest of the Sliders showed up, grabbed Jerry O'Connell, slapped him around a few times, and then slid into another dimension just before the Kromaggs arrived and killed everybody else on this show.
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Oct. 12, 2012, 4:04 p.m. CST
Next TV reboot....The Jeffersons!!! Except set in modern times, and it's a Korean family.
by kindofabigdeal
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In fact, I'm going to change my username to "ILoveBryanFullerSoMuchIChangedMyUsernameForHiminAICN" -Namaste-
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Oct. 12, 2012, 4:36 p.m. CST
Jerry O'Connell has had sex with Rebecca Romijn,Bitches.
by JohnWayneWasGay
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Good: Posts by ... conspiracy thelordofhell friesagainst Bad: Condolences to the guy with a dick so small it fits in a fingerhole of a bowling ball! Ugly: They sowed [sic] him back together ...
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Oct. 12, 2012, 4:38 p.m. CST
Best thing Jerry O'Connell has been in is Rebecca Romijn.
by JohnWayneWasGay
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Every time some new remake or reboot is announced, people start getting sand in their vagina and ranting about how the original is some sacred work of art that should never be touched. I can even kind of understand that for some properties, but come on! It's the fucking Munsters people! One of the stupidest "classic" shows of all time. I doubt a single person here would have claimed to like it before this was announced. And frankly, Bryan Fuller's involvement in the project means that this show actually has potential. So please, can we take a break with all the needless bitching?
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So, I may have to check this out. I dig the way everything looks. Got a cool vibe to it. If the show ends up being anything as good as what Fuller intended, it should be golden.
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I seriously thought that was Paul Williams in the pics with the sunglasses on. Then I found out it was Izzard and lost all hope.
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I will say this the house behind them in the first photo looks just like the house from the first series but a nicer less gothic version. I thought they were going with a different one. Anyway if the special is a hit this will go to series. If not it won't. NBC needs hits.
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in the third picture down.
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Pushing Daisies did nothing for me, and if this is anything like that, I'll pass. Did really like Dead Like Me, but I need this like I need a new Gilligan's Island.
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Oct. 12, 2012, 6:52 p.m. CST
So the only monster is a Klingon stranded on Earth via time travel?
by Metroid_Fetish
Looks incredible. I know what I'll be watching on loop for the rest of my life.
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...when nobody looks like a Munster? Were they too cheap to hire some makeup people?
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Oct. 12, 2012, 7:37 p.m. CST
My guess is they would turn into monsters over the first season
by Cobb05
Herman would die/get into an accient and Grampa would have to turn him into the monster. Eddie woukd get bit by a vampire. And if she isn't already, Lily would become a vampire. I'm guessing that's what would happen, otherwise it's just Dark Shadows.
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I give it a month.
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It seems like every show he does fails pretty quickly...even the ones on cable. Sure, there was Voyager, but that show 'succeeded' because it was Trek.
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I think these picture look really intriguing and I would watch this show in a heartbeat. You do get what a reimagining is, right? First, this is a drama, not a comedy. Second, it's about taking the concept of these monsters and doing something different. The original show was riffing on Universal monsters. Obviously this show isn't going that route. And Marilyn is probably the scariest looking of all of them. Which I find really fascinating. A family of monsters (whatever they look like) is still a great concept. And Brian Fuller. Dead Like Me. Wonderfalls. Pushing Daisies. That's all I need to know to set my dvr.
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Oct. 12, 2012, 11:22 p.m. CST
Greetings, oisin5199! I am totally convinced you are an alive human being!
by spacehog
It was your comment that ''Marilyn is probably the scariest looking of them. Which I find really fascinating,'' that really sold it for me. That just seems so obviously like someone not in marketing and development would say about these pictures of various made-up freaks and the one pretty lady with bleached hair. YES, I think I will SET DVR TO MOCKINGBIRD LANE while DRINK PEPSI the CHOICE OF A NEW GENERATION NEILSEN FAMILY CODE ORANGE::CODE ORANGE
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Oct. 13, 2012, 12:27 a.m. CST
It's a fine line between a bit weird and silly. I think they've done ok.
by Charlie
If they looked like the original actors it'd just be plain retarded and wouldn't work any more.
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Oct. 13, 2012, 1:08 a.m. CST
After Superman Returns, I know who'd I'd blame for getting it wrong
by Kenny8
...again
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Oct. 13, 2012, 2:44 a.m. CST
Dead Like Me was good. The rest of his shows were meh.
by Queefer Sutherland
He got too whimsical. Pushing Daisies owed more to Amelie than it did to Fuller. Wonderfalls was too close to stupid for me.
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Oct. 13, 2012, 5:39 a.m. CST
Looks like Izzard in the red is supposed to look like Gary Oldman
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
in the beginning of Bram Stoker's Dracula.
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A "reimagining" is something that cunts with little or no imagination do to things that other, more talented, people created using their imaginations. Fuckers need to stop "reimagining" and concentrate on imagining their own things instead.
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Oct. 13, 2012, 6:32 a.m. CST
Ahh, I think Cobb05 might have it right and judging by the pics...
by HollywoodHellraiser
i'd say the characters have the unique traits of the original Munsters just that its different. Old Herman: Frankenstein, jolly, family man, and comfortable in his own skin. New Herman: Prettyboy, jolly, family man, but maybe doesn't like his looks? Or thinks he looks hideous??? Old Grandpa: Loves his daughter and grandkids, cool with Herman, inventor and scientist. A little a vamp but more a wacky scientist??? Old Eddie: Hybird Frankenstein/Vamp, loves his family, trying to fit in, but generally happy. New Eddie: Regular kid, but probably a social outcast or weird geek??? Old Marilyn: Pure, virginal, and loves her family. New Marilyn: Hopefully a slut??? Nah, most likely the same. Old Lilly: Vamp, loving mother and devote mom. New Lilly: Most likely the same. I suspect they will look different than the original Munsters but have their traits. If you're a fan of the original than those traits should be recognize, I assume.
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The pilot opens with Eddie turning into a werewolf. Grandpa and Lily are vampires. Herman is a 'Frankenstein'/walking corpse, but a handsome one (more Mary Shelley than Boris Karloff). But now it's all played straight.
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Oct. 13, 2012, 8:11 a.m. CST
"outsidechance," have you ever read Mary Shelley's novel?
by Uncle Stan
While Shelley doesn't describe the creature's face in great detail, he does cause horror in all onlookers. There is nothing "handsome" about him. He is huge and grotesque.
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I was thinking of a TV movie adaptation from the 1970s where the monster started out handsome and then decayed. Unfortunately, however, I mixed up the title of that movie (Frankenstein: the true story) with the DeNiro movie (Mary Shelley's Frankenstein). It's my understanding that this new Herman is similar to the former. He's handsome but only because Grandpa keeps fixing him up.
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Herman is fucking stitched together!!! He doesn't look normal at all!
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Yes, the original Munsters is definitely something that "more talented people created using their imaginations". It's not like it was a "reimagining" of classic Universal monsters or anything....
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Except for the Marilyn, the normal one.
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but you must agree a reimagining is still more creative than a remake.
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Lets face it he sucks the joy out of the fantasy genre. I suppose Herman will be heavy on the Jesus aspect of being resurrected and may even be a stay away father with stalking tendencies.
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No, I'm just a fan of Brian Fuller's work and I'm not a typical knee-jerk AICN talkbacker who can't seem to get over the fact that these characters don't look exactly like Fred Gwynne and Al Lewis. In other words, I have an ounce of imagination. And I think the classic 1960s construction of the feminine is just as (if not more) monstrous than a movie monster, thus my comment about Marilyn (and no coincidence that she has the same first name as THE icon of 1960s femininity). I'm also a big fan of classic horror themes (I would have said "tropes" but that might be too intellectual for you) as metaphor for emotional resonance (a la Buffy). So if the writing's good, I'll enjoy this and will want it to go to series, though I'll likely be disappointed in that last bit.
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Since our culture is full of old stories and mythologies, sometimes we can get fascinating insights into looking at an old story differently. That's why we have so many different versions of fairy tales, Hamlet, Peter Pan, and horror stories, why we have so many different versions of the hero's journey. Sometimes remakes or cover versions (in music) can be incredibly brilliant with something new to say about an old story or song, or the remake recontextualizes things (placing them in a different time period, switching genders of main characters, etc.) so that we see them in a different light. Other times, they're mindless cash grabs that don't add anything or worse, they diminish the old property. So I'm not against "reimaginings" per se, just bad ones. I'm willing to give this the benefit of the doubt before I watch it because of its pedigree.
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Blame Herc for recycling a previous post about the reboot that featured one small picture of them all standing on the staircase with nary a scar or vampiric brow ridge in sight.
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i would prefer herman to at least have a more deathly pallor befitting a re-animated corpse. also, by the looks of the expression on lily's face in all of the photos, de rossi appears to be channeling morticia addams...but i await seeing the actual performance...
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You're right. The creature was good looking for some reason. However, by the end he had suffered a lot of damage, burns, and looked pretty fucked up.
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And this doesn't look like them at all. The whole point of that show was that they were a family of monsters trying live a 'normal' suburban life. They were _supposed_ to look like monsters...and the neighbours either didn't notice, or were too polite to say anything. That's what made it funny... Still, I'd be willing to give it a chance. Good story...good performances...funny jokes...that could make up for it not having the right look. Maybe.
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Oct. 13, 2012, 8:24 p.m. CST
So... they brought in Brian Peppers to play Uncle Fester???
by InMyTARDIS
seriously?!
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seriously?!
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cerial?!
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Oct. 13, 2012, 8:42 p.m. CST
to quote Granpa from his Howard Stern visit: "AAAHHHHBABABABABABABABABABABA!!!"
by Arcadian
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They were going along the lines of Brannagh's Frankenstein for Herman's look?? Just a thought.... I mean a guy sewn together of different body parts is a "scary" thought whether he be flesh tone, green, or purple ....
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