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Wanna See Some More Dune TV-Series Photos' - UPDATED!
El Cosmico here, our buddies in Deutschland have been kind enough to let us know...they've got some cool new pics from the upcoming Dune TV-Series!
Included on this page are...
Paul with a thumper ("plumpser"), Lady Jessica, Alia, Pardot Keynes,
Sardaukar Soldiers, Paul and Duncan hanging out, a fellow decked-out
in desert survival gear standing in front of an ornithopter, a character described as "an assassin", and some folks working on an Arrakis set.
They've also got some older photos, which you may have seen, but just in case you haven't, go here, there are links at the bottom of the page.
Have fun, dunesters!
-El Cosmico
mail me at: elcosmico@austin.rr.com
UPDATE!
One of our reader friends sent us these photos, which apparently were put up at Sci-Fi.com, but later taken down for some reason. They include a worm-handling scene with a really fly chickie in a short skirt, and two pics of everybody's favorite pal, Feyd. Enjoy!
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Cool cool cool! More pics at last. I'm really excited about this one... The Sardauker look awesome! Really Samurai-ish. And the still-suit in one of the pics doesn't look too bad. Now, let's get some worm pictures, eh?
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I hope this project goes forward; the world needs more Dune. Oh, and I'm second or somesuch shite.
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I'll try this one more time. Harry goes on press junkets that are paid for by the studio. He is occasionally invited to visit a set by one of the people in the movie biz he knows personally. He receives crappy merchandise from the new releases. These things put him at the same level as every other movie critic and journalist in the country. Harry could be accepting kickbacks aplenty as far as I know, but if the jaunts he goes on and his insider info are your "proof" that Harry's a sellout, well, you're going to have to do better.
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Holy Criminy! The Sardaukar Soldiers look GREAT! They seem to have been based loosely on Samurai armor, and remind me of the unused designs for the Snowtroopers from The Empire Strikes Back... I was a little worried by the first few photos, but those Sardaukar pics calmed me down. I've always found TV adaptations laughable (esp. those by the Sc-Fi Channel!), but I'm going to cross my fingers for this one... Oh please oh please oh please make this good!
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Us dune fans have known about those pics for weeks.There's still more of those floating around not there.A week or so ago the offiical site accidently posted a slew of others including worm shots ect that got immediately taken down.I know cause I downloaded them.I have to agree with the others this production is starting to look good.
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I have to agree with Tom Thorn, about 70% of the costuming worries the shit out of me. It does have a look about it that reminds me of old Cheesy Robin Hood movies or some Medieval crap. A few of the costumes look decent though. I dig the hell out of the bald Assassin dude in the black leather with the purple belt/sash. And I kinda like the Fremen Reverend Mother's outfit, but damn the Still suits suck complete ass! I wish that they could have done a variation on Lynch's Stillsuits with a mottled sandy coloration and desert robes over them. That would rock! Trust me, I'm an artist so I know what I'm talking about when it comes to design. This epic takes place in the year 10,191, not 1345! Where is the other-worldliness of the designs? I don't care what any of you people say, but Lynch did get close to 80% of the costuming in his film version right. it was very regal, distinctive, and it didn't look like it came off the clearance rack at Wal-Mart! The Sardukar are a little too close to Samurai Armor for my taste. They look like Armored Japanese Firemen. I do have to admit, what I can see from the photo beats the hell out of the baggy rubber garbage bag suited Sardukar in Lynch's film. I Know that the races that populate the worlds of Dune are simply the descendants of Earth's humanity, but fuck!, they've had quite a bit of time to evolve strange customs, rituals, and modes of dress, that should only echo, not mirror, the ancient cultures from which they sprang. Oh well, I sure hope they get this right, I loved Frank Herbert's Classic, I liked a lot of What Lynch came up with for his film, but he still dropped the ball. If this Mini-Series don't get it right. It may just be the year 10,191 before we see anyone else willing to take another swing at this wonderful piece of fiction.
Damn, if they would have just let me design the costumes, I would have done em up right! I'm a Sci-Fi illustrator and I know a little something about putting that "Cool Factor" in character design. Don't believe me? go to my website and take a look at some of my artwork:
http://www.oklahoma.net/~obsidian/
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. . . I only hope they don't blow it. Like many other posters here, Dune was a staple of my youth. Admittedly, I own a copy of Lynch's version, while I don't hate it (I wouldnt own a copy if I did), it lacks in so many areas.
This new version has the possibility to be very very good, granted the powers that be on this project don't stray too far from what came in the original book. Also, I would love to see the wet-planet conservatory from the book (readers will know what I'm talking about), something we never saw in Lynch's film.
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Hey guys, man oh man. I shouldn't even be writing this. but some of you are basing the fact that Harry may be a sellout on the fact that banners dont make much money. I hate to tell you this, but you should do your research you little tards. Sites like ign.com and whatnot make thousands of dollars a month, I'm talking 50 or 60 thousand dollars a month in ad revenue, even more. On top of that, how much do you think it costs to fly from Texas to LA? Well I dont know myself, but when I lived in Phoenix it was 80 bucks, I'm sure harry can pull that off. I remember when Harry worked at Planet Hollywood he once took his entire paycheck and flew to Paris just to see John Carpenters Vampires. Harry simply loves movies so much that he spends ALL of his money on them. Some of you are heartless and brainless and would never understand a "passion" on something, but please don't take it out on other people. Harry is a great guy, and let's say for arguements sake he IS a sellout. This is still one of the best sites on the net for breaking news so don't bite the hand that feeds you. sheeeeeesh..
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I do not know Harry Knowles.
But what I read from him does not seem like what a person who is only concerned with financial gain. He sounds like I do some times, since I'm fairly tolerant when it comes to the quality of a movie. I think this internet culture is so engrossed in distinguishing the sell-outs from the legitimate hard-workers that they forget what differs between the two: The person who hasn't sold out does what he loves instead of doing what pays.
Harry doesn't get payed much, from what I understand. My sense is that Harry Knowles truly loves what he's doing and tries his best to give his readers something that has some spirit to it.
Until that day when he sells the site to Warner Disney-Time-AoL Microsoft inc. For a wad of dough, he is not a sell out. Until that day where he considers himself above working on his own site, He is no sell-out. -
Wow, what a subject line. Sometimes my rapier wit leaves even me breathless. GonZo, or GoNzo, whatever, is a sad chappie, don't ya think? Like, wow, has this person woken up with this here revelation and gone, 'Gosh, clearly no one has ever thought this before and it is my duty to share my epiphany with every one else, lest their souls be cast into the Great Pit of Hell!'. Probably. I mean - Gonzo - what is that - a ego driven reference to Gonzo (I'm an out there rebel, yeah!!) or to the thing with the funny nose on the muppets? Pal, this is an old, old complaint about Harry, which may or may not be true. But your point is?? AICN is still a news/gossip/lotsa reviews site which many contribute to and many read. Out here in Reality World we make up our own minds as to what we think. This should be evidenced by the robustness of the Talkback Forums which, incidentally, Hazza allows us to post on and, quite often, crap on, and disagree with, his viewpoints. A place where the only slight bit of controversy is that the occasional saddoe racist/homophobic idiot gets kicked off and a few prats get hot under the collar about and scream 'Give me liberty or give me death!'. As if AICN's mindset has to allow the ramblings of psychotics when they have outlets elsewhere. As if it is the bastion of World Democracy and has to somehow conquer the grey netherworld of free speech vs the Right To Be A Hate-ridden Idiot that Human Rights thinktanks have struggled with for years. It is just the website of a fan geek. If he makes a few bucks off it and does some nice travelling, more power to him. One day he, like the rest of us, will be dust and a barely remembered memory. No pat on the back in some Afterlife for being a good, high moralled fellow. So allow him a good time, pal - no one gets hurt here and, after all, a lot of us get a bit of pleasure from this site, mercenary capitalist enclave or not.
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Actually, he is. As I recall, his mother was quite well-do-to, an inheritance which Harry will make good use of, I'm sure.
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I have to admit, I'm very puzzled by the objections to the "medieval" look of the costumes. One of the whole points of the Dune universe was that it was not all sleek and hi-tech; computers had been outlawed centuries ago, etc. Hi-tech and lo-tech coexist throughout. For instance: due to shields, hi-tech weapons (guns, lasguns) are less effective than good ol' knives. Doors are wood, in stone palaces. A hi-tech assasin hides by being bricked up in a cellar. Paul's grandfather did old-fashioned bullfighting, etc. etc. etc.
And remember, every off-worlder's first impression of the Freman is as dirty, smelly guys, not the ubersoldiers of the universe!
And the language of the book is all medieval (medieval European and medieval Islam): "Dukes" hold "fiefdoms," the "Padishah" rules, etc.
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Things aren't sleek, they are OLD. Real scientific advances stopped after the Butlerian Jihad. Almost all research was devoted to the body and mind by selective and natural breeding. Not to mention political intrigue is now to a level that makes ours look lame. Only the Bene Teliaxu and the Ixians are considered radical inovators. Lynch put it best when he said Dune has a "decadant technology".
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I disagree with this "costumes are bad" opinion. I love the Japanese look the art direction took, although I don't see why the Harkonnen AND the Sardokar have to be Japanese-looking. Some variety in the villains' attire would have been nice. But really, I just don't swallow the criticisms. They look fine to me and quite frankly that's all I care about.
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It's crap!!! The sets, the costumes! Especialy the Sardaukars.. There's (and always will be) only one, definitive Dune adaptation and it's by D.Lynch...
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A few more words on Lynch's DUNE- IMO it's a flawed classic. The inner voice works sometimes, others it doesn't, but it's a great idea- like theatrical asides. The acting is IMO quite good all around, especially Kyle McLachlan. Sting's a bit OTT, but it's not like he had a large role. As for the liberties- I happen to believe a film should be judged on its own terms, not by fidelity, and though I'm not sure why Lynch chose the final "rainfall", it's a powerful scene. The "weirding modules" work too- they're not just some cool gadget, they're a manifestation of power from within. "Thoughts have a certain sound, that being akin to a form. Through sound and motion you will be able to shatter bones, set fires, suffocate an enemy or burst his organs." Impressive stuff. Who knows what the five hour version is like (though the script gives some indication- it'd be incredible.)
Now, the Dune photos here. Kinda bland, but I'm gonna chalk that up to the photographer and staging rather than any faults in the design. They look very "stagey", but the director should be able to make the actual scenes come alive. I too am kinda unimpressed with Chani- I'm not gonna knock the actress's talent because I haven't seen her act, but the role seems to call for someone tougher, someone who looks less like Gwyneth Paltrow. Too waifish, understand?
The worm-handling scene- I can't quite remember if it was in the book, there was a similar scene in the TV extended cut of the film, but is it really necessary? The last one I can place, it's Feyd Rautha in the arena on Geidi Prime (I hope so, if it's supposed to be his fight with Paul or Paul's duel with Jamis the scenery's all wrong.) I suppose it would be too much to ask for Feyd to yell "I WILL KILL HIM!" in this version... -
I love how these people think they could have cast or designed the costumes or something else on the film. Does even ONE of you WORK in the film business? SO the next time somebody wants to judge why don't they do this or that - write your own script, get the money & make it. I think the costumes look great and I'll judge the film when I see everything on the final cut and not after I checked out a few pics on the website! And some things don't look so good at first sight and the moving picture does everything justice. Take a look at those old Star Wars pics - nobody would have thought Harrison ford was anything - but watching him move and hearing him speak - that's something else altogther! You know what people say - those who CAN - DO and those who can;t beomce critics.
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